WEBVTT - 2026 NBA Draft Betting Preview

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<v Speaker 1>What these young bloods have to understand at this game

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<v Speaker 1>has always been it will always be about buckets.

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<v Speaker 2>Have attacked the basket steps.

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<v Speaker 3>Mild on.

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<v Speaker 4>The future is now welcome to Buckets. My name is

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<v Speaker 4>Matt Moore. I'm the senior NBA writer for the Action Network,

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<v Speaker 4>joined by Brandon Anderson. You know him as the Lionel

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<v Speaker 4>Messis of r O I. You can catch uh. You

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<v Speaker 4>can catch his coverage over at Wheaton Brando in the

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<v Speaker 4>Action Network out. This is your NBA Draft betting preview episode.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna go through a number of things we're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to take a little bit of a different

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<v Speaker 4>approach this year for a number of reasons. We're going

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<v Speaker 4>to get to some analysis of what we think about

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<v Speaker 4>the draft, so this would be basketball talk. We will,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, because it's a betting show, we'll have ways

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<v Speaker 4>to bet it. We will also have philosophical questions about

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<v Speaker 4>how to bet it. We will have best bets for you.

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<v Speaker 4>All of that more on today's show, and you can

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<v Speaker 4>find everything we talk about in the award winning Action

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<v Speaker 4>Network app. There'll be an article version of this if

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<v Speaker 4>you want to check back and make sure that you

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<v Speaker 4>got all the bets you'll be able to find that

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<v Speaker 4>in the app. Make sure it should be on the

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<v Speaker 4>lookout for that. We'll have a post draft episode on

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<v Speaker 4>Wednesday before I depart for a mini vacation. Yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>leaving for the second round of the NBA Draft because

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care. And the reason I don't care is

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<v Speaker 4>because none of those players matter until they turn it

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<v Speaker 4>into Nikola Jokich. When they turn Intokohli Yokich, I'll be like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's why the second round matters. But then I don't

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<v Speaker 4>tend to do it. I don't know if we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>get to the Yanat stuff today. Here's what I will

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<v Speaker 4>tell you on the Yannaest stuff, because we got a

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<v Speaker 4>question from Brian in the chat about it. If a

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<v Speaker 4>Yannis trade happens, we'll do an episode like Brian for

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<v Speaker 4>SECAs chomping at the bit for it. Whichever way it goes,

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<v Speaker 4>So we will have an emergency buckets episode. I will

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<v Speaker 4>have to fit it around seventeen other things I'll have

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<v Speaker 4>to do, but we will have a reaction to the

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<v Speaker 4>honest episode. What I will tell you right now is like,

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<v Speaker 4>is like I think I think he gets traded before

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<v Speaker 4>the draft I'll I think he gets traded for the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Miami sixty sixty percent, the Celtics are thirty percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything else is ten. So uh and yes, Brandon, we

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<v Speaker 4>are live on YouTube dot com slash the Action Network,

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<v Speaker 4>which I did not tell you because I'm a bad host.

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<v Speaker 4>I did do a rundown today though, so you have

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<v Speaker 4>to at least give me credit. I did a very

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<v Speaker 4>detailed rundown for you to a day before rundown where

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<v Speaker 4>we're in great shape today. I know I gave you

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<v Speaker 4>this this like Monday. I gave you like Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true, it wasn't even day before. Yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>a weekend before situation. I know. I want to just

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<v Speaker 3>start just real quick off the top with so you

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned like obviously we're gonna talk about the guys we like,

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<v Speaker 3>the guys we don't like, the guys who think should

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<v Speaker 3>go high, that we only should go high, and the

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<v Speaker 3>bats for me. I just want to preface this with like,

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<v Speaker 3>this draft stuff is hard, and it's like who cares

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<v Speaker 3>what we think? Who cares what our evaluation is. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what the teams are, we don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>they're thinking. These are extremely pizza bat bets today from

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<v Speaker 3>me at least, I'll let you comment on your process.

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<v Speaker 3>But for me betting the draft, I am mostly looking

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<v Speaker 3>at betting against certainty and betting kind of against the

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<v Speaker 3>the the big push intels that are out there, just

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, I don't know, man, weird stuff happens

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<v Speaker 3>in the draft, and I take shots, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>very light on these and it's kind of having fun

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<v Speaker 3>extra reasons to pay attention during draft night. How do

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<v Speaker 3>you bet the draft? What's your kind of mL.

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<v Speaker 4>So, I mean, I'm doing pretty standard units on anything

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm betting, unless it's like a really wild outcome,

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<v Speaker 4>like I have some I have bet my opinion, So

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<v Speaker 4>I would say I have the logic based bets are

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<v Speaker 4>like a full unit because it's like betting a night

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<v Speaker 4>of basketball for me, okay, like a full sixteen game.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure the stuff, Like I have bet Booze one the

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<v Speaker 4>Bonsa to Peterson three cam or with Caleb four. I

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<v Speaker 4>have bet that at like thirty to one because I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's the order it should be in, Like that's

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<v Speaker 4>the order I think it should be in. So I've

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<v Speaker 4>put pizza money on that. The everything else I've bet, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I've been pretty particular with how I bet it the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest thing I want to talk to you about today

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<v Speaker 4>because I think this is like worth talking about. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I've done Intel stuff on the Draft before, and we've

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<v Speaker 4>had some massive hits on the show, and we've had

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<v Speaker 4>some massive misses. Like a great example of a massive

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<v Speaker 4>hit was that I was able to hear very early

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<v Speaker 4>on the Scottie Barnes was like going to Toronto and

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<v Speaker 4>that was going to happen. I was going to, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that there's value in being able to find

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<v Speaker 4>when you hear about those kind of things. I wish

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<v Speaker 4>I'd gotten in on Caleb Wilson earlier. I should have

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<v Speaker 4>been more up on it. I was dealing with the finals,

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<v Speaker 4>but like, there was probably value back in the beginning

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<v Speaker 4>to get Caleb Wilson number four and now it's too

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<v Speaker 4>far gone and we'll talk about some of the other

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<v Speaker 4>things there. But I also think that a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the of the Intel is nonsense, and I think that

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<v Speaker 4>it even when it's not nonsense, a team you could

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<v Speaker 4>be like, I hear they really like this guy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but doesn't mean they're gonna take him because one guy

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<v Speaker 4>in the room might really like a guy. The assistant

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<v Speaker 4>GM might love a guy and be very high on him,

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<v Speaker 4>or the agent might have really strong ties with this

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<v Speaker 4>team and feel like, yeah, they're gonna take my guy.

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<v Speaker 4>But that doesn't mean that the ultimate decision maker comes

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<v Speaker 4>in and sometimes you're split and the owner comes in

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<v Speaker 4>and it's just like, no, we're taking this other guy.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna we're gonna grab that guy. And so I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's all I think part of the of the

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<v Speaker 4>conversation here. The question I want to ask you, Brandon

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<v Speaker 4>is not whether we should bet intel. I want to

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<v Speaker 4>ask you the opposite. Is there a value? Is there

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<v Speaker 4>a strategy to be found in purely fading the noise

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<v Speaker 4>and intel about teams?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think that largely is kind of how

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<v Speaker 3>I bet the draft, even like you already came in

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<v Speaker 3>with the Caleb Wilson intel at number four and he's

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<v Speaker 3>up to like is eight hundred and nine hundred at

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<v Speaker 3>some books, Like we all know, there's no way I'm

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<v Speaker 3>betting a minus nine hundred on anything, let alone on

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<v Speaker 3>Draft night. But spoiler, my best bet of the entire

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<v Speaker 3>podcast day is going to be a call Wilson bet

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<v Speaker 3>and it's going to be not to go number four

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<v Speaker 3>like that literally is my best bet. I am coming

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<v Speaker 3>out swinging on to me like my whole future's mo

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<v Speaker 3>in anything is. I know we all think this is

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that has to happen, but what if it didn't,

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<v Speaker 3>what if it's not that thing? So the draft is

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<v Speaker 3>the perfect spot for that to say. I know, the

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<v Speaker 3>Intel says this is what's going to happen. And every

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<v Speaker 3>time it goes the same way, Matt, the Intel comes out,

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<v Speaker 3>we get Cavoni, we get wu, we get who I

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<v Speaker 3>have Vasini, whatever the name is, and instantly everything gets

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<v Speaker 3>steamed one direction, and now we have prediction markets and

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<v Speaker 3>we can bet the opposite direction. And I am never

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<v Speaker 3>ever going to be the person that follows the Intel steam.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just to I'm not telling you that's the wrong

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<v Speaker 3>thing to do. I'm just saying I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be that guy. I don't have enough connectivities. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong thing to do. I think it's the wrong thing

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<v Speaker 3>to do. Unless I think it's possible, Matt, that it's

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<v Speaker 3>the right thing for you to do. I think you

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<v Speaker 3>are close enough to the Intel and to some of

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<v Speaker 3>these sources that you might actually catch it early enough.

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<v Speaker 3>By the time that I'm finding out anything, because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have sources, it's too late and whatever value might

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<v Speaker 3>have been is gone and I should be going the

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<v Speaker 3>other direction. So I think to most listeners who are

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<v Speaker 3>now hearing it third and fourth party from through us

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<v Speaker 3>or wherever, I think it's too late and your only

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<v Speaker 3>real option is to either stay away because you missed it,

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<v Speaker 3>or to go against it. And I prefer to go

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<v Speaker 3>against certainty. And that's kind of my mo o on

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<v Speaker 3>drafting or on betting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I think that that's like I've often I've

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<v Speaker 4>been thinking a lot of that Brandon's approach, and I

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<v Speaker 4>keep coming back to like the Big Short and the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that those guys would the way they got started

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<v Speaker 4>was they were just betting that out bad outcomes with

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<v Speaker 4>a cur because no one ever thought bad outcomes with

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<v Speaker 4>a curve because you don't want to think about it.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's kind of the same kind of premise here.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that I kind of wonder about that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>curious on is just simply going so like here's a

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<v Speaker 4>good example, Keaton Waggler has like no hype, none, there's

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<v Speaker 4>no hype for Keaton Waggler, I don't get here. I

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<v Speaker 4>hear about Mara, I hear about a ment, I hear

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<v Speaker 4>about like I'm fading ament just as like as a

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<v Speaker 4>as a prior, because like this is how I'm doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that there are players that the hype

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<v Speaker 4>is drawn from the player's side. I think that immense

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<v Speaker 4>people have been telling everyone you know who really loves him,

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<v Speaker 4>it's Brooklyn, the other really loves him, the Kings Dallas

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<v Speaker 4>could not get enough of a mint, And then that

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<v Speaker 4>gets out unsourced, like unsided, and it's like, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 4>you heard it from a reliable source, which is like

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<v Speaker 4>somebody they would know they were in those conversations, but

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't mean they're going to take them. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's probably a way to do that. Like

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<v Speaker 4>there's all a lot of times when I have bet

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<v Speaker 4>guys that's like I've heard this guy mentioned a lot,

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<v Speaker 4>and so you bet the under on that guy, and

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<v Speaker 4>then it's like this guy that you did that you

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<v Speaker 4>heard nothing that was consistently mock pie, well thought of

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<v Speaker 4>on the draft boards, but wasn't consistently talked about. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the guy that ends up going higher because it's just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>his people were quieter about it, and the teams were

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<v Speaker 4>quieter about it because they liked him. So I agree

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<v Speaker 4>with you that there's a way to do this. That's

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<v Speaker 4>that's pretty delicate. It's a tricky balance of trying to

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<v Speaker 4>read through.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's as always, it's the number. If you have

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<v Speaker 3>a piece of intel that you think you have reason

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<v Speaker 3>to believe, and the intel is I can bet this

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<v Speaker 3>outcome at thirty to one, Sure take a shot. That's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all for that. If your intel is, oh, here's

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<v Speaker 3>the exact top three order that I think is going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen because this report came out, but we're still

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<v Speaker 3>thirty six hours from the draft. Don't bet that as

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<v Speaker 3>a favorite as like a minus one point fifteen and

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<v Speaker 3>you're chasing steam on these three exact things to happen

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<v Speaker 3>with time to go. That's not the way to go.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, it's always nuanced. It's always the number if

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<v Speaker 3>you if you have an intel and it's a long number,

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<v Speaker 3>sure take a shot. Maybe you're ahead of the game,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's its long shots. Like that's that's the whole

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<v Speaker 3>thing with betting that way. So I think, to me

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<v Speaker 3>is just which direction is the number and how do

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<v Speaker 3>I how do I beat against certainty in some of

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<v Speaker 3>these situations. So should we get into the guys at

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<v Speaker 3>the top. Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's start with number one through three. We're gonna actually

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<v Speaker 4>gonna talk about who we think should go number one

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<v Speaker 4>through three. This is a fascinating draft. Washington Wizards with

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<v Speaker 4>the number one, Utah Jazz the number two, in Memphis

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<v Speaker 4>Grizzlies at the number three spot. There is still considerable interest.

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<v Speaker 4>This is I think you can adequately say that the

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<v Speaker 4>way this has talked about is in conversation. In the

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<v Speaker 4>consensus is that it's a two. There's a tier at

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<v Speaker 4>the top with Darren Peterson and aj Debontsa, and then

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<v Speaker 4>there's a tier with Cameron Boozer, and then there's a drop.

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<v Speaker 4>Brandon's gonna tell you why he disagrees with that, but

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<v Speaker 4>that's like the consensus. I will go ahead and just

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<v Speaker 4>tell you, like what I think should happen. Cameron Boozer

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<v Speaker 4>should go number one. He leads the country in BPM

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<v Speaker 4>by a massive margin. There's a number over at databaller

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<v Speaker 4>dot com called BPM plus, which actually factors in strength

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<v Speaker 4>of schedule and he is a plus seventeen like by far. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care about the metrics math. This is college fair.

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<v Speaker 4>I watch Cameron Boozer. I've watched all of this tape

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<v Speaker 4>on him, and what I continue to think is, this

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<v Speaker 4>is a guy that's gonna help you win games. He's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be a connector. He can score, he can drive,

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<v Speaker 4>he can pass, he can pass out of post ups

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<v Speaker 4>versus smaller players, he can drive versus bigger ones. There

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<v Speaker 4>are questions about his viability as a four, given his

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<v Speaker 4>frame and size, that he's not going to be big enough.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel that he is strong enough, polish enough, developed

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<v Speaker 4>enough to be a hugely impactful player. I think my

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<v Speaker 4>question is always, are you going to help your team win?

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<v Speaker 4>Darren Peterson's gonna get buckets. AJ Debans is gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>great highlights. I think Cameron Boozer is going to help

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<v Speaker 4>you win games. I want Cameron Boozer number one. My

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<v Speaker 4>second would be Aj debansa because he's a monster, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's athletic, and he's able to score, and he's got

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<v Speaker 4>three level scoring capability and the defensive link this great

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<v Speaker 4>and all those type of things. My third is Caleb Wilson,

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<v Speaker 4>incredible motor, able to play at a high level. Would

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<v Speaker 4>love to see him next to Edie and Cedric Coward.

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<v Speaker 4>And then my fourth is Darren Peterson. You are not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna get me on board with a Kansas guard who

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<v Speaker 4>averages one point five assists per game. This goes against

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<v Speaker 4>everything I think. I don't care about the Createen stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care about him having to sick games. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't care about any of that stuff. Bad stuff happens,

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<v Speaker 4>bad luck happens, whatever. This is a kid that won't

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<v Speaker 4>work out for other teams because he thinks he's above it,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's not his fault. A lot of times the

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<v Speaker 4>representation kind of just impacts the kid. It's not even

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<v Speaker 4>Darren's fault, it's just within the representation. It's he sounds

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<v Speaker 4>like a headache rapped with a player that doesn't make

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<v Speaker 4>anybody better, who gets buckets. Not my kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 4>So I have Darren Peterson four, what's your one through three?

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<v Speaker 4>And then fourth Brandon?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So actually we came out we have different process

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<v Speaker 3>to get there, but we come out actually relatively similar

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<v Speaker 3>similar here, So I end up with for now aj

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<v Speaker 3>debansa number one on my board, which is very uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 3>to me because there's times where early in the season

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<v Speaker 3>I was texting Joe and Jim about this and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, Andrew Wiggins, call my shot, Andrew Wiggins, get

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<v Speaker 3>him out of here. I'm not in on this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>And some games you watch and you see the Wiggins thing,

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<v Speaker 3>you see the Ingram thing where it's like, thirteen minutes

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<v Speaker 3>just went by, where was he at? Did you get

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<v Speaker 3>a shot up?

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<v Speaker 4>Bro?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, what are you doing out here? Did you impact

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<v Speaker 3>the game at all? Four turnovers in six minutes? The

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<v Speaker 3>next game and the next game, it's like he played

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<v Speaker 3>a I think Clemson in like December, and you're watching

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<v Speaker 3>the game and they kind of just stuck in mud

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<v Speaker 3>and then come out on the second half and they're

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<v Speaker 3>behind by like twenty or something and he drops. He

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<v Speaker 3>like outscored the entire Clemson side and led the comeback.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a guy who has the scoring upside as

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<v Speaker 3>a jumbo size wing that I think is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to play the four very easily. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he has legitimate upside to possibly score thirty a game

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<v Speaker 3>if he actually peaks at what he can, and to

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<v Speaker 3>lead the league in scoring multiple times and that is

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not the guy to hyperbole on guys, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think that is the upside, that it is a Wiggins downside,

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<v Speaker 3>like it might just be I don't Matt, you and

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<v Speaker 3>I never liked the ingrams of the world of like

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of empty bucket wing dude that I don't

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<v Speaker 3>really see him super elevating teammates. I think his passing

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<v Speaker 3>needs work, I think his handle needs work. His defense

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<v Speaker 3>was not great, even though his bodies should be good

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<v Speaker 3>for it. But the passing or sorry, the scoring ability

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<v Speaker 3>and always NBA teams needing a wing. I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>get past that number one. I will say this too,

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<v Speaker 3>my top tier would be empty, like not to dump

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<v Speaker 3>on the parade, but last year Cooper Flag Dylan Harper

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<v Speaker 3>would have been higher than anyone I have in this

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<v Speaker 3>year class, and so I kind of have a well,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to have someone at number one. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>the BONSA. I agree, I have Cam Boozer. Second, I

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<v Speaker 3>agree with virtually everything that you said about him. My

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<v Speaker 3>problem is that I have doubts of out what his

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<v Speaker 3>game does translating to the NBA. He plays so below

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<v Speaker 3>the rim and he relies so much on bullyball in

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<v Speaker 3>the post for his scoring, and I'm not convinced that

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<v Speaker 3>his scoring is going to translate well to the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not convinced he's going to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>defend that well. He cannot really protect the rim at all.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to need. I think a key thing people

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<v Speaker 3>overlook is Patrick Gungba, who was the center who I

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<v Speaker 3>really like, actually was supposed to be a lottery pick

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<v Speaker 3>and decided to go back to school at Duke. When

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<v Speaker 3>he was missing and not in the lineup, Bozer was

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<v Speaker 3>way worse on offense and on defense. His offense was

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<v Speaker 3>worse because he didn't have this vertical rim threat pulling

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<v Speaker 3>in and his defense did not have Numba behind him,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was completely different Duke team and Boozer team

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<v Speaker 3>and the magical. Oh, he just wins. Well, he wins

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<v Speaker 3>against the ACC that kind of sucked this year, and

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't really win all that well in the tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't even make the final four. They beat Sienna

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<v Speaker 3>by like six in the first round. Like that, he

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<v Speaker 3>just wins. Thing we hear about dudes every year, and

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<v Speaker 3>I can't buy just that. It stinks because all the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff you said Matt. I want to love about Boozer,

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<v Speaker 3>like all the makes teammates better and all the little

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<v Speaker 3>things I see. I see all those things about him,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to get there, And I just say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're Kevin Love, ask if that's what you are

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<v Speaker 3>in this modern ear. If you are, I think maybe

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<v Speaker 3>power forward to Bonus or Shane Gun. Are you an

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<v Speaker 3>analytics darling that's going to have the big stats and

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<v Speaker 3>the good bpms, but be the best player on like

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<v Speaker 3>forty three win team, Like I just fear we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to get some version of that, and so I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of end up on this high floor if I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know about the ceiling. Caleb Wilson's my third guy. I

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<v Speaker 3>love Caleb Wilson, and I probably should have some stones

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<v Speaker 3>and put them first. But I'm a little disappointed. Once

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<v Speaker 3>I dug into the age, the size, the combine profile

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<v Speaker 3>all a little disappointing. He's raw. He's really raw, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was hoping that it's like, oh, it's fine, he's

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<v Speaker 3>like a year younger, he's gonna develop, it's fine. He's big,

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<v Speaker 3>he's huge, he's super twitchy and athletic. Well, some of

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<v Speaker 3>the combine stuff not quite as good as you hope good,

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<v Speaker 3>but not like super hyper elite. He looks like this incredible,

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<v Speaker 3>incredible athlete. He looks and again I try to not

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<v Speaker 3>do hyperbole on this stuff. If I watch highlights of

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb Wilson, I see possible Kevin Garnett, I see possible

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<v Speaker 3>Giannics onto the Koompo. I see kind of weirdly skinny Zion.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe the way that he attacks the rim, that the

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<v Speaker 3>pogo jump just quick jump, insane energy, freak athlete. And

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot that's missing that, the feel for the game,

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff I want in prospects, it's not quite there.

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<v Speaker 3>The shot is not good. But the thing I like

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<v Speaker 3>best about him of these three and the guys at

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<v Speaker 3>the top is I don't necessarily think any of these

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<v Speaker 3>guys are the star of a title team. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they're probably second or third guys. I like how Caleb

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<v Speaker 3>Wilson fits into that team as the second or third

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<v Speaker 3>guy better then I like the other guys. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>my top three. I actually have Darren Peterson fifth on

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<v Speaker 3>my board. I have a clear tear drop below. I

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<v Speaker 3>agree with the stuff you said about the questions on

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<v Speaker 3>the character and the team fit and just the body language,

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<v Speaker 3>watching how guys are reacting to him, and even if

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<v Speaker 3>he's the thing he's supposed to be talent wise, if

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<v Speaker 3>you've listened to me for any point, I've been a writer,

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<v Speaker 3>like that is the least archetype thing that I want

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<v Speaker 3>in the NBA. Like the ball chucker who doesn't make

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<v Speaker 3>his teammates better is a bucket. That is not my guy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not my team building thing. So if I don't

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<v Speaker 3>even like that much the positive outcome that you are,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna get overpaid because you score a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>points and you're not really helping your team. Just not

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<v Speaker 3>my guy. I would not want to attach my wagonto him.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's my thoughts on the top guys.

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<v Speaker 4>So every big board has Boozer one, most of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Most of the big boards have Boozer one. And this

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<v Speaker 4>is from even some of the guys that do consulting work.

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<v Speaker 4>And yet every mock draft has Peterson or aj one,

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<v Speaker 4>and I continue, these are the ones that always stress

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<v Speaker 4>me out where I'm like, okay, I trust to a

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<v Speaker 4>certain degree the consensus systems. Why is every smart analyst

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<v Speaker 4>like Boozer should go one and every mock draft, like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be aj or Peterson. When I will tell

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<v Speaker 4>you like, I don't think the Wizards are leaking the

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<v Speaker 4>Peterson could go number one. Thing that came from Darren

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<v Speaker 4>Peterson's group because it came in the same report. He's

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna work out with anybody else. Wizards are playing

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<v Speaker 4>this right. They're just like keeping it close to the best.

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<v Speaker 4>They shouldn't tell anybody. You should be like, might we

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<v Speaker 4>might take aj when I take Cam, we might take

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<v Speaker 4>like who knows? Don't tell anybody. It leaves you open

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<v Speaker 4>to being able to trade because if somebody's like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>we're able to get you know, you used to want

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<v Speaker 4>to leave that at least door open to being able

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<v Speaker 4>to get a trade that works out in your favor.

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<v Speaker 4>It's unlikely for you to find it, but do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying Boozer, we're going to go number one.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying he should, but I'm not saying he's going to.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have any good intel that he's going to

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<v Speaker 4>go number one. I have. I have only the opposite,

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<v Speaker 4>which is like, it's either aj or Peterson. Based off

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<v Speaker 4>of the athletic stuff that we talked about on the

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<v Speaker 4>defensive side. A lot of the way I've kind of

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<v Speaker 4>started to talk about this is like, I'm fine with

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<v Speaker 4>aj over over Boozer. The Peterson thing is like, but

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Peterson could be a better defender than Boozer. I think

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<v Speaker 4>what's gonna happen is neither one of them is gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be a good defender because Boozer can't and because Peterson won't.

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<v Speaker 4>Peterson's gonna get buckets, and he's gonna know that's where

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<v Speaker 4>his value is. And that usually winds of impacting the

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<v Speaker 4>ability of of guys to balance out their defensive performance.

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<v Speaker 4>I am with you on the on this overall class.

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<v Speaker 4>This class has been hyped up so much. I like

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<v Speaker 4>the depth a lot better than you do. I think

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<v Speaker 4>you can find good guys all the way through. But

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<v Speaker 4>I was asked this question on Locked on NBA with

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<v Speaker 4>Cooper Flagg go with number one. I'm like, oh, no question,

0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:42.760
<v Speaker 4>are you kidding me? Like Cooper Flag went into Team

0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:48.159
<v Speaker 4>USA Select and gave NBA All Stars buckets, there is

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<v Speaker 4>no comp here Like Flag would be number one, no question, right,

0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Victor's an even level above that. Obviously, Dylan Harper, who

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned, would go number one in this draft. You

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<v Speaker 4>just so, why then are we like so hyped up

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<v Speaker 4>about it. I do think that all these guys can

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<v Speaker 4>have a really good careers. I think they can all

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<v Speaker 4>have like All star careers and that's pretty good, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, Like if you're an All Star, you

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<v Speaker 3>had a great career. And there's certainly I like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to me, there's about like eight to ten dudes, Like

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<v Speaker 3>the presumed top ten guys are all really interesting, really

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<v Speaker 3>good potential. There's about that many more guys that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>interested in. And then I just as someone that followed

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<v Speaker 3>the draft kind of more throughout the year, and to me,

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<v Speaker 3>nil and guys going back to school for a lot

0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.320
<v Speaker 3>of good reasons. Good for them. No criticism here, But

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<v Speaker 3>after about pick twenty in this draft, like you said

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 3>that you're gonna be going on vacation, you're missing the

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<v Speaker 3>second round. I might be going on a World Cup

0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.399
<v Speaker 3>vacation by like pick twenty two in this draft. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I just we're out of names. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be deep past that.

0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:01.040
<v Speaker 4>There's somebody gout. Justin Jefferson. Justin Joshua Jefferson. I love

0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.679
<v Speaker 4>Joshua Jefferson. Like there's all that I like a lot of.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually like a lot of the second round dudes

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<v Speaker 4>because they're all like older players with fields.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna get more and more of that, Like, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what the nil ear is going to bring is guys

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<v Speaker 3>who got their money good for them, stayed in three,

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.080
<v Speaker 3>four or five years, and then come out and are

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<v Speaker 3>the second round guys that I look at like Bennett

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 3>starts from Iowa and to me, Bennett starts screams thirty

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.639
<v Speaker 3>fourth pick that I love in a draft, right Like

0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Brunson like that that the four years senior, undersized guard,

0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:34.160
<v Speaker 3>probably a high end backup, but could be something more.

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:36.680
<v Speaker 3>I love that dude every draft. But he's gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>like eighteenth in this draft because we're missing like fifteen

0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.119
<v Speaker 3>picks in there. So that's where I'm a I was like,

0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of guys I'm interested in, but it

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:46.520
<v Speaker 3>just to me, like when I tune into summer league

0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:48.640
<v Speaker 3>games because I'm like, oh man, I gotta see this guy.

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:50.919
<v Speaker 3>Does he pop? What's he look like? I don't need

0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:52.919
<v Speaker 3>to tune in to see Joshua Jefferson. I know what

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 3>he looks like. He's really good. I've watched him play

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<v Speaker 3>for a whole bunch of years and he's fantastic. But

0:22:57.760 --> 0:22:59.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna like learn something new about him in

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<v Speaker 3>summer league versus. We just don't have a ton of

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<v Speaker 3>the guys at the top. So that's where I'm at

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<v Speaker 3>on it. But I'm excited. It's NBA Draft night. It's

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<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite sports nights of the year, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going forward to where it goes. My best bet

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<v Speaker 3>for how to do this top of the draft, I

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:15.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of tease to the top already. My favorite bet

0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 3>of the podcast today is bet against certainty, and it

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:24.400
<v Speaker 3>is Kleb Bullson at Kelshi number four. No, it's fourteen percent,

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 3>it's plus six or fourteen. Let me tell you why

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.399
<v Speaker 3>if you're going to bet against certainty. This is the

0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 3>most absurd pricing that I have ever heard of in

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<v Speaker 3>the NBA Draft where you can't have like imagine, just

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 3>take the names out forget anything that. This is not

0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 3>about my thoughts on Kile Billson. And I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 3>you before I say it, this is not an emotional

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 3>hedge you bet on. I want the Bulls to get

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:48.879
<v Speaker 3>kill Wilson, so I'm going the other direction. No, this

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 3>is nothing to do with that. This is there's not

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 3>a world where everyone in the world agrees that the

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 3>top three guys are the top three, or like you said,

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 3>the top two, and then the third guy, and then

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 3>everything else below the fourth guy. It doesn't make any

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 3>sense that there's a magical third tier that the whole

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 3>world degrees is one guy and it just happens to

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<v Speaker 3>be that the fourth team in the draft agrees that

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 3>that's the same one guy and they're going to take him.

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:20.920
<v Speaker 3>That we just can't be ninety percent certain of this

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:24.200
<v Speaker 3>weirdly specific you know what, I know, the only thing

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 3>I agree shorter odds than anything in the entire draft

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<v Speaker 3>is who the fourth best player is. That's the one

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 3>thing I know is exactly who is the fourth best

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 3>player in the draft. So I'm betting on what if

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm right about Caleb Wilson. What if you're right about him.

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 3>What if people in the top three love Caleb Wilson

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 3>and they take him. What if everyone knows the Bulls

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.719
<v Speaker 3>want Caleb Wilson, so they have to trade up to

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 3>get Caleb Wilson. What if we're wrong about Caleb Wilson

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 3>and he didn't really test that great, and he can't shoot,

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:55.959
<v Speaker 3>and teams don't like him, and the bulls are just

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 3>eating up all the smoke screen and they decide to

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 3>go with whoever one of the guards any other thing,

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.880
<v Speaker 3>what if literally any other outcome? Then the only thing

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.640
<v Speaker 3>everyone seems overly certain on. I'm betting it Caleb Wilson,

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 3>not number four. It's plus six or fourteen if you

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 3>do the math out at fourteen percent, it's my favorite

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 3>bet of the draft.

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:24.119
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I should I don't. Yeah, this is okay, So

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:26.160
<v Speaker 4>like as a as a sense here, like we learned.

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.199
<v Speaker 4>I learned a lot from Luke Swain, who used to

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<v Speaker 4>work with US Vegas.

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 3>Refounds awesome at the draft and.

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 4>He does a lot with just like using the consensus

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:37.119
<v Speaker 4>marks to find value nop eight out of ten marks

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 4>at NBA dot com of the premium that at the

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 4>top level, Marx have Caleb Wilson going for eight out

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 4>of ten.

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yep, it's miss four hundred by the way, attends

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<v Speaker 3>miss four hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what's just about to say, is like, I gotta

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 4>be objective value there at twenty percent. I It's just

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:59.479
<v Speaker 4>it would be so shocking to see Peterson, boozer, like

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 4>a reason to be shot. You're like Matt, you don't

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.159
<v Speaker 4>like Peterson. You think all these things. Why would it

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 4>be shocking? Because I know that scouts. I know how

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 4>scouts feel about Peterson. He is the Look at this

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 4>guy's handle, look at his moves, look at his athleticism,

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 4>look at his size, look at his footwork, look at

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 4>his handle. Like all of the individual stuff is so strong,

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 4>and teams are always like, well, you can take the

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 4>we'll just figure out the team stuff with him. Now,

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's how basketball works. I think you

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 4>need to have an innate feel for making for team basketball.

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 4>I've seen a lot of guys who are great one

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 4>on one that are not great team basketball players in

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 4>the NBA. So that's not how I would do it.

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Who cares what I think? You said this like, as

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 4>you said at the beginning, who cares what I think?

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 4>And I just think that that that with him being

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 4>the number one for the entire college season and then

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 4>to move into AJ that makes me think he's more

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 4>likely to go number one than number four and or

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 4>later than that. And so I understand the certainty principle.

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 4>And it's very interesting it's probably worth it at the number. Like,

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 4>it's probably just worth it at the number to just

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 4>be like I have this is kind of one of

0:26:58.280 --> 0:26:59.479
<v Speaker 4>those things where it's like you get to hold your

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 4>nose right, it's just the number. It's this value's there's

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 4>no world, there's no piece of analysis you can kind

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 4>of get to, because he used to be like, oh,

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.120
<v Speaker 4>there's a top three and then it's like Caleb Wilson

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 4>or Fleming or Waggler, and like for months it's been no,

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:17.199
<v Speaker 4>there's a top three, and then there's Caleb, and then

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 4>there's a drop, and then there's everybody else, and like

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 4>that's how this draft is solidified. But if you're right

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 4>and that's not how it is, then there's absolutely value

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 4>on this at that number.

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 3>It just doesn't make sense to me that we can

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 3>have The only thing we know in the entire draft

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 3>is exactly who number four is. It's the only thing

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 3>we know. Everything else is up for grabs. If everything

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.239
<v Speaker 3>else is up for grabs, If you're agreeing with that,

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 3>what if it's not de Bonds that number one. What

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:44.199
<v Speaker 3>if it is Peterson at number one? Now what happens?

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Who goes second?

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 4>Now?

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Who goes third. What if Boozer it goes number one instead?

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 3>What if Boozer isn't the guy they like. There's just

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.919
<v Speaker 3>in all the doctors strange worlds of things that can happen.

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 3>There are thousands of different versions where it's like, well,

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 3>it could go this way, this thing could happen. I'm

0:27:58.240 --> 0:27:59.919
<v Speaker 3>just betting on possibilities.

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.959
<v Speaker 4>So mine is simpler and it's not as tasty, but

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 4>I like it. It's Darren Peterson number two, No. At

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 4>thirty nine cents at calci. Okay, maybe the Wizards just

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 4>take him. Maybe I'm wrong on the on the analysis

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 4>and on the fact that the Wizards haven't promoted this

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 4>at all and it's not from Peterson. Maybe they really

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 4>do like him. Peterson was the number one pick again

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.439
<v Speaker 4>through most of college you know whoever. That reminds me

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 4>of Palo Bancaro, who is number one through the entire

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 4>college process. It flipped to Jabari Smith Junior once the

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 4>draft process started, and that last week, in a well

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 4>documented and well covered by US process, Palo gains team.

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 4>There's huge betting in the markets, and Pollo went number one.

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 4>This reminds me a ton of that where it's like

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 4>maybe they just get to the individual just like Nope,

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 4>Darren's the best player. We're just good. It's BPA. It's

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 4>always BPA for these top three guys. I'm not a

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 4>professional scout. I don't trust my draft takes all that much.

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 4>I have strong ones this year because I decided to

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 4>do the work on it. But like, I don't think

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm better at this than the other guys that do this.

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 4>And so if if it's Peterson one, this cache is,

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 4>then let's say it's Aj number one or Cam either one,

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 4>Cam er Aj go number one to Washington, not Peterson,

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 4>not Caleb. Let's put the Kalb thing aside. For a

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 4>missure number two, you have either Aj Debonsa who played

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 4>at BYU, who Ryan Smith voted a ton of money

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 4>at nil and has a very close relationship with in Utah,

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 4>or you have Cam Boozer, the son of Carlos Boozer,

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 4>who played for the franchise and currently works for them.

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 4>There's been a lot of talk I've heard that they're trying,

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 4>they're working on the move Laurie Marknen that he could

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 4>get moved this summer. That clears the spot for Cam Boozer.

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 4>That clears a perfect spot in the rotation for Cam Boozer.

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 4>They are gonna need that money because they're gonna want

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 4>to try and retain Walker Kessler. And like, these are

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 4>not things that you did take an consideration. You take

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 4>the best player. But like, we have two players with

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 4>strong Utah connections, and Utah is gonna pass on both

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 4>of them to take another guard. Who does does it

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 4>want to go there? Darren Peterson doesn't want to go

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 4>to Utah because of the Kyanta George connection. Kianta George,

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 4>same agent doesn't want both of his guys fighting for

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 4>minutes on Utah. Yes, you talk and override this would

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 4>be like, these are Darren Peterson's the best player, We're

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 4>gonna take him. Not at sixty percent. This doesn't make

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 4>sense to me. I like this way lower than this number.

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 4>I will take Darren Peterson No. Number two at thirty

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 4>nine cents.

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 3>Brandon, Yeah, I mean I think it makes it all

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 3>makes sense to me. My only thought would be, and

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't have the numbers, but you seem to be

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 3>betting Noah Peterson by betting yes on either Aj or Boozer.

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 3>So I just I would check if you want to

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 3>bet this, you might be able to bet both of those,

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 3>like shop around and grab the best number on Boozer

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 3>second or aj second and cobble it together. You might

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 3>even get a better slight, better pricing. But I think

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 3>the logical makes sense. It's hard to imagine one of

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 3>those two Utah connections not being the ute. The only

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.479
<v Speaker 3>the only way to imagine it is just like, well,

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Aine's gonna age. He's gonna do whatever you feels like.

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think Ange's gonna Peterson. Neither one of

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 3>us loves him anyway, So I'm with you on it.

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So that's the top of the draft. I want

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:13.719
<v Speaker 4>to talk quickly about number about who should go top ten. Okay,

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 4>this is my list for who should go top ten.

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 4>I like Keaton Wagler a lot. I just think he's

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 4>way underrated in this draft. Brayden Burry's I think needs

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 4>to go in the top ten. He's just like every

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 4>every workout has been absolutely insane on him. Darius Acuff,

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 4>Malik Brown. I think LeBaron Philon needs to go top ten.

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 4>I love that kid. I love everything about LeBaron Philon.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 4>I think he's absolutely phenomenal. I think he's and I

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 4>think that we're seeing some late steam towards him, so

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 4>maybe there's a good opportunity to go the other way.

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 4>And then Mara I have come around on I am.

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 4>I love his passing, I hate his physicality, so that's

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 4>where I get to on him. Who else do you

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 4>think should go in the top ten?

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 3>So I'm relatively chalk here. I didn't get a chance

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 3>to go quite as deep into the draft this year,

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 3>so I'm just gonna give you a lot of the

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 3>similar names you'd expect. I have the top three, gave you,

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 3>then a tier drop four or five, I have his

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:05.239
<v Speaker 3>a cuff and Darren Peterson another tier drop, and then

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 3>the one name I have that sticks out here, my

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 3>number six. I love this dude, Yakxel Lendeberg. I think

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 3>should absolutely be a top ten draft pick. I want

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 3>that guy on my NBA team. I want him now.

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:17.959
<v Speaker 3>I want I don't care that he's twenty four. I

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 3>like that he's twenty four because I get age twenty

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 3>four to twenty seven on a first round pick is

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 3>way better than if this guy was a free agent.

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 3>And I'm paying through the nose for this like guy

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 3>that can defend three, four, maybe all five positions. I

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 3>think he has his defense and his his like mentality,

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 3>team leadership, great will to win. All that stuff reminds

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 3>me in some ways of a different version of a

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Draymond Green type winner from the college level that gets

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 3>the NBA. Totally different stylistic. But guy can shoot, guy

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 3>can play from the wing, he can defend all the positions.

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I love him. I have him six, seven, eight, nine.

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 3>I have Flemings, Woggler, and Mickel Brown and then another

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 3>tier drop after that, and like I said, I had

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 3>eight to ten guys, I'm kind of question mark after that.

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 3>I actually have Leberian Filin tenth on my board and

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 3>then am Mecca Corey and Christian Anderson are eleven and twelve.

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 3>But it's a real question mark for me who would

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 3>get that number ten spot.

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 4>I have a really interest question for you. If you

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 4>were a GM in this draft, would you be trying

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 4>to trade out?

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Trade out?

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, definitely. I told I texted you this the

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 3>other day that if I had the top pick, I'd

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 3>be trying to trade out unless I presuming if I

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 3>have the top pick, I have better intel than I

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 3>have right now. As Brandon guy who sits on his

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 3>couch and watches film at home. I'm I think I

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 3>can see the upside value in Caleb Wilson. If I

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 3>got to see more, got to see the workouts and

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 3>felt better about it, that might be the guy I'd

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 3>get too back at number one. But otherwise based on

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 3>what I know right now, Like again, to me, I

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 3>wish there were a different guy that we're number one

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 3>and two and then everyone else kind of slides down

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 3>and these like five to ten guys. I wish we're

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 3>like the back half of the lottery guys. But also

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 3>I probably think that every draft because i'm, you know,

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 3>captain optimist about everything over here. So at some point

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 3>you got to actually pick a guy. If I were

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma City or Golden State or maybe Dallas who just

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 3>hired Dusty May, if I were one of those teams

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 3>and I have a pickup at the top, and I'm like,

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 3>screw the future, I'm trying to win right now. I'm

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 3>getting yacks in here right now because Matt, I'm not joking.

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I think Jaxel Lenderberg on Okac's roster, they'd be champions

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 3>right now. I think he would have played real minutes,

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:30.800
<v Speaker 3>and I think that he would have made an impact

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 3>on any NBA playoff team right now, and I think

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 3>he would have swung the title this year. I want

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 3>that guy on my team.

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 4>Strong take from Brandon Anderson, who doesn't like anybody but

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 4>Yaxell Londenborg. I haven't done the work on Yaxle. I

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 4>know I'm gonna be really honest with you here. This

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 4>is like a like, this is a serious thing. I

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 4>can't take yaxlel london Wore seriously because his name is

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Jacks Solendonborg. I just can't do this. I can't be like,

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:52.919
<v Speaker 4>you know who the difference was for Okac and winning

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 4>the title, Jaxell Londenborg. Are you serious? No?

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.879
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Really? So instead it's Shay Gil just Alexander. That's

0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 3>you answer, that's my name.

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 4>That's a that's a name of president.

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 3>They're great names. Everyone can Matt Matt Moore and Brandon

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Anderson don't have to be everyone's names. Other people can

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 3>have different names.

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 4>Than Darren Peterson. That's a star ass name. I will

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:16.919
<v Speaker 4>say that Darren Peterson is a star.

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Let's not get ourselves canceled by analyzing player names. How

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 3>about that.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:25.800
<v Speaker 4>Okay, uh okay. So we got questions about this up front,

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 4>which is Patrick said, be Brandon's got to be taking

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 4>yax number nine exact pick after this morning's news. So

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 4>the mavericks Hire May from Michigan and there is all

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 4>this like idea and it's up. Ma is up eleven

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 4>percent this morning for number nine. Lennenborg is up fifteen

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 4>percent for number nine. You can, by the way, instead

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 4>of doing Lendenborg at number nine at twenty one cents

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 4>at calshi, there is a better way to do this,

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 4>which is you can just go to top ten and

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 4>get Lendenborg at twenty three cents. Yes, so for two

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 4>cents more you get him anywhere in the top ten

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 4>if you want to take linden Boorg. So that's the

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 4>way to to bet that, like give yourself some some

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 4>room there.

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's my bet. I'm frustrated that the Dusty

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 3>May thing happened because this was my top bet in

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 3>the section anyway, and then I had in my notes

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.280
<v Speaker 3>as eighteen percent. So we're already up five percent because

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 3>the Dusty May news. The steam moving that way, you

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 3>can do over under like a bet three six five,

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 3>under thirteen and a half, I don't love it. It's

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 3>minus one oh five. I'm not going to be betting

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 3>a lot of minus one oh five and one tens

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 3>in the draft because of my whole uncertainty thing. But

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.280
<v Speaker 3>thirteen and a half just happens to be right after

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma City and Golden State pick at eleven and twelve,

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 3>which are the teams that make a lot of sense

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 3>to me to like, this guy fits that roster and

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 3>can go win. Right now, I will say this, I

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 3>have learned the hard way so many times in the draft.

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 3>I do all my work and I'm like, you know

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 3>who I think is gonna be great, and then the

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 3>draft comes and they're like, nobody cares what you think.

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.240
<v Speaker 3>We're taking the seven foot guy in the first ten picks.

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 3>So Lendeberg to me is my personal evaluation and that

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 3>is not how you bet the draft. So I'm not

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 3>gonna go crazy on this, but he is my evaluation

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 3>and it makes a lot of sense. And now we

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 3>got the Dusty make connection. There are a lot of

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 3>reasons I think he could go in that nine to

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 3>twelve range, so I will bet that direction, but betting

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 3>with some amount of uncertainty, because it doesn't matter that

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 3>I think he's that good. Some NBA team has to

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 3>do it otherwise I can be right. Five years from now,

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:29.839
<v Speaker 3>he can be the next Robert Ori on a team,

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna have a nice fat nothing next to

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 3>my name except for this little clip that won't happen,

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, in a decade from now.

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 4>The other thing I'll tell you, I think this hype

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:40.800
<v Speaker 4>about the dusty mate, I think this is insane.

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do too.

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 4>Dallas has been doing their draft work for a month,

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 4>for three six months. You have a program that does

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 4>this entire year. Massi took over two months ago. Massi

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:54.720
<v Speaker 4>is going to have his own preferences. He doesn't care

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 4>what the college coach wants. That's not how this works, guys.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 4>It's not a package deal. Now, they might take him,

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 4>because these both guys are both in this range. I'm

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 4>not saying they're not gonna take him. The numbers shouldn't

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 4>move off of this news. The other thing I will

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 4>tell you, do you know what, there's way more talk about,

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 4>way more talk about Dallas moving out of nine, either

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 4>moving up or down both ways. They might move back

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 4>and get Mara. They might move back and get Lendenborg.

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 4>Both the Doubt, the Memphis Grizzlies, Oklahoma City Thunder, and

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 4>Los Angeles Lakers have all had talks with Dallas. And

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 4>I've heard you, I've heard Atlanta has had talks with

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 4>them too, Like they have had talks about moving up,

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 4>but they've had way more talks about moving back. And

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 4>if the Mavericks move back and take a Michigan let's

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 4>say we're half right that they're gonna take a Michigan guy.

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:43.839
<v Speaker 4>If they do move back and take a Michigan guy,

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 4>your top pick fails. You can bet Dallas to take

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 4>one of these guys. Calshi has that market, but even

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 4>that I think is risky. I would not be adjusting

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 4>this based off of this. If you think Lendenborg is

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 4>gonna go top ten because you think that he fits enough,

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:58.760
<v Speaker 4>you should be doing it because he fits enough logical

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 4>fits or do you think he's that good of a

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 4>player to go above a Cuff and MIKEL. Brown and

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 4>all these guys. The other question at the top ten,

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 4>like nobody knows what the Clipper are gonna do. And

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 4>one of the questions I think is really interesting is

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 4>if you move up to five, who do you move

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 4>up four? Like everyone's gonna wonder, like, what are the

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 4>Clippers gonna do? For our betting perspective? The better question

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 4>is what's the player the prospect you draft up to take? Now,

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 4>if you're Brandon Anderson, it's Jack Soel Lendenborg.

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 3>No, I absolutely am not trading up to number five

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 3>to take a twenty four year old. I'm telling you that, like,

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm not training up to number five at all. And

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 3>a draft for the entire world is so sure Kayleb

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Wilson is fourth best and then there's a drop off.

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 3>Why in the world would you trade up to get

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 3>the pick right after that happens? Doesn't make any sense

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 3>to me. A guy in the top ten that I

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 3>was not able to get a lot of during the

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 3>season because he had a back injury and a lot

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 3>of question marks. Mckel Brown seems to be the name

0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 3>that is very consistently like that five six range on

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 3>Like wow, really like MIKEL. Brown is fascinating because he's

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 3>like you, if you created a player and you maxed

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 3>out the three point volume and three point accuracy and passing,

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 3>except maybe not three point accuracy. If you actually watch

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 3>this season, but jenerally for his career shooting, passing, and

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 3>that's it. Nothing else. We took away all his other powers.

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 3>He can't really do any other stuff. He's not going

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.800
<v Speaker 3>to defend, he's not really gonna, you know, do a

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 3>mid range game. He's not getting to the bucket a

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 3>lot or finishing there. We took all those powers away

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 3>and made him maxed out at threes and passing. It's

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 3>like we created a Trey Young two point zero. That

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 3>to me is kend of what I think Mikel Brown

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 3>looks like, except by the way he's got back injuries

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 3>that you know. I don't know about you, Matt, but

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 3>in our forties, back injuries aren't the thing to screw

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.399
<v Speaker 3>around with. Like I'm sure NBA athletes are a little

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 3>bit different, but I do love drafting a dude that

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 3>is half our age and already doing the back injury thing.

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 3>So you have a note here about Mikel Brown over

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 3>under six and a half. I'm gonna take a long

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 3>shot Mikel Brown in case I'm right that the back

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 3>injury thing might be a bigger deal and maybe people

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 3>don't know about. Again, I'm betting it uncertainty. Here's my

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 3>long shot nibble for you at kelsh Mikel Brown not

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 3>top ten, not just not top five, not top ten

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 3>five percent, nineteen to one, just because I think there's

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 3>a lot of interchangeable guards in this range. What if

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 3>I just like Flemings better? What if I love a cuff?

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 3>What if that's my guy. I'm not convinced Mikel Brown

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 3>is a lock to go in this like five, six,

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 3>seven range, and then we're in play after that. So

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of taking a long shot fade on Mikel Brown.

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.319
<v Speaker 3>But if I had time to do more work on him,

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 3>I think this is a real chance he would have

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 3>finished fourth on my board, and I will regret saying

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 3>this if I got there too. Like he is one

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 3>of those guys I want to watch a summer league.

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 3>I hope we get to see him. What do you

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:51.959
<v Speaker 3>think about Mikel Brown?

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 4>I like his game. I think it's more likely he

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 4>goes six and five, and I think this number is

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 4>wrong on the five and a half. On the six

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 4>and a half, I think that his number should be

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.399
<v Speaker 4>five and a half. So like I like the under

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 4>on six and a half, But one thing I will

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 4>tell you is I do kind of want to bet

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 4>might do this. I might bet Mikhail Brown knows sixty

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 4>two cents for top five. That's a good amount of

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 4>value here at thirty eight cents value thirty eight percent

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 4>value on him not to be one of the top

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 4>five picks. I think if somebody moves up, it's for Mara.

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 4>I think that's like who they move up to get,

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:28.400
<v Speaker 4>because that's the best like big big in the draft

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 4>as far as like what's been projected, not by my estimation,

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 4>but like either but that's what everybody, that's the consensus

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 4>I think in the in the market. So it's like

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 4>who are they going to move up for? You move

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 4>up for a big. You might move up for a

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 4>cuff if you think he's got superstar potential even with

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 4>all the defensive warts. And you might move up for

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 4>Burry's because he's like the impact, the super impact guy.

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 4>Like it's a good example of like Braiden Burry's Okay,

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 4>see loves him, Okay, see loves Braiden Burry's. I think

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 4>that their attempts to move up are to get Braiden Burry's.

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 4>That's probably And if they think that he's good there's

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 4>a likelihood that a lot of the other teams are

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 4>going to think he's good too, So like I think

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Mara and Burry's are more likely because of the fact

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 4>that the Clippers might trade the pick than Mickael Brown.

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 4>I like him under six and a half, but I

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 4>like him not top five. I like him six exactly,

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 4>I think is where I want to bet it. But

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 4>there's a number of I want to leave open the

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 4>outcomes too. I probably need to look at the math

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 4>on what those combined numbers look like.

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like the idea of you'd sell me very

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 3>quickly on almost any not top five bet because if

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm wrong, if Wilson is fourth, and if we have

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 3>a clear top three and Wilson, why are we placing

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:42.760
<v Speaker 3>odds on top five when we agree when everyone thinks

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 3>four of the five slots are taken, there's only one

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.720
<v Speaker 3>more spot left after that, Like right now, one major

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 3>book has here's the odds for top five Michel plus

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 3>one ten Acuff plus one forty Woggler plus one seventy five.

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 3>That's three dudes shorter than two to one to be

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.240
<v Speaker 3>a top five pick when we only have one spot

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 3>for them. That is criminal to me, so flip it

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 3>around because we have prediction markets. Now, I love the

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 3>not top five bet. If you agree that Wilson and

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 3>those top three dudes are those guys, you're fading one spot.

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Now you're fading that number five pick and you are

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 3>fading maybe the trade up or that sort of thing.

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 3>But I think that makes a lot of sense. That

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 3>fits my bet on uncertainty. A couple of names you mentioned.

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 3>We both like Leberan Filon a lot. We both have

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 3>this bet nine percent at Kelshi for top ten. I

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 3>think that's a touch too far. I would rather bet

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:37.399
<v Speaker 3>file On, like top twelve or fourteen. I think top

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 3>ten is pretty aggressive, but it's ten to one odds,

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 3>So I like it. You like him even more than me,

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 3>so I know you like it. I'm gonna give you

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 3>the floor. We ended up also on Nate Ament top ten. No,

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 3>so why are you a a not Nate Ament truther?

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 4>Real quickly on Filon, Caesar still has DraftKings had his

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 4>number up at seventeen and a half and then pulled it.

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:03.919
<v Speaker 4>Caesar still has it up at seventeen and a half

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 4>over under even both ways.

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a couple I've seen that have bet three

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 3>six five in the score. Also, I like the under there.

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 4>I love the under there. I don't think it's not

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 4>like a max bet because it's the draft and he

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 4>could slide. Maybe there's a red flag whatever. I will

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 4>just tell you like the two names I've heard of,

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 4>the Miami Heat if they do not trade this pick

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 4>to Milwaukee or Labaron Pylon and Christian Anderson, which Christian

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 4>Anderson would be an insane reach to me at thirteen.

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 4>That's a crazy stretch to me at thirteen, But I'm

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.800
<v Speaker 4>also again limiting my own draft stuff.

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's a lot of really small point guards, which

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:38.239
<v Speaker 3>both of these guys are presumed to be, and it's

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 3>tough to know what teams make of that. So yeah,

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 3>I think I don't think it's an insane reach. I

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 3>like Christian Andrews. I think is the best passer in

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:47.959
<v Speaker 3>the draft possibly and probably the best shooter as well.

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 3>But you're not getting much else. Yeah, filon, I think

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 3>it's worth the gamble. To me, Nate Ament is an

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 3>entirely theoretical player. Everything about Nate Ament is theoretical. He

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.399
<v Speaker 3>was a top five RS the I recruit, and that's it.

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Like if you are betting on what we knew before

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:07.319
<v Speaker 3>this year, maybe you take him. But like, look, top

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 3>ten pick, let's count out the names here. To be

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 3>a top ten pick, you're the guy. We got the

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 3>top three, we got Kleable, so that's four we got.

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I think a Cuff Woggler and Flemings I think are

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 3>pretty pretty written in ink, and most people think Michel Brown.

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 3>So if that's the case, we're at eight already. I'm

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:27.799
<v Speaker 3>not a bradon Bury's guy, but he certainly seems to

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:30.359
<v Speaker 3>be a top ten pick. We're at nine now, you're

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 3>down to one spot again potentially, and we still have

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 3>all three Michigan guys, we have Filon, we have a

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:39.920
<v Speaker 3>bunch of other dudes in this range. And so to me,

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Nate Ament does this like theoretical wing that can't really

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:47.399
<v Speaker 3>do much. The shot wasn't good this year. He's inefficient,

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 3>he's not defending, he's not moving well. I just don't

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 3>see it. To me, is both a personal scouting but

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 3>also just I just haven't seen any wind of it

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 3>from anywhere before. I think he's a name that just

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 3>slowly faded as the season went on. So not top

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:06.719
<v Speaker 3>ten for him is at thirty nine percent plus one

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:10.799
<v Speaker 3>fifty six at Calshi also, so his over under is

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 3>ten and a half, so you can get that in

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 3>some books. If you don't do Kelshi your prediction market,

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 3>you can just spread the over So anything else on

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 3>ament or why you're fading.

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 4>Him, mostly this is based off of the amount of

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:24.759
<v Speaker 4>I think the market has been inflated by his own

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.799
<v Speaker 4>people hyping up his prospect of going top ten, rather

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 4>than the amount of interest in him. So this is

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 4>very much a fading the intel because from the people

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 4>I've talked to, not great reviews for how those meetings

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 4>have gone, just not not phenomenal as far as like

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 4>what those what those visits have gone, Like, I think

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 4>it's overstated. I think Am is much closer like I

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 4>would like him. I like him not top twenty. No,

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.319
<v Speaker 4>that to me, I think is like as like, I

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 4>want to get more aggressive with it because I think

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:58.759
<v Speaker 4>it's there's a possibility of him.

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 3>The only problem to me is so this is a

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 3>really rough wing draft, so at some point somebody is

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 3>just gonna have to take a shot. I know you're

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.799
<v Speaker 3>not super high on like Cameron car as well, I

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 3>don't love him, but like at some point, well, people

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 3>are just gonna take a shot on wings, like we're

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:17.280
<v Speaker 3>just really low on wing options. Here one other bet

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 3>that I think you should get in on with me

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 3>is at Kelshi only his only place of seeing this.

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 3>You can bet on how many of the top ten

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 3>picks will be freshmen. You can bet on all ten.

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 3>You can bet on at least nine or at least eight.

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give you at least nine freshmen in the

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 3>top ten. No, so that means eight or less. Here's

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 3>how we get there. We need all the Michigan guys

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 3>are upperclassmen or file on as upper classmen. So if

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 3>we if we basically get two of those guys into

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:50.040
<v Speaker 3>the top ten, then we cash this bet. It's nineteen

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:53.320
<v Speaker 3>percent plus four to twenty six. I think at least

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 3>one of the Michigan bigs goes into the top ten.

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 3>I think Mara probably sneaks in. I would not do

0:48:57.960 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 3>what he is not in my top ten, but I

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.960
<v Speaker 3>think it looks like he's going to go there. Teams

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 3>draft seven foot dudes too high every year, in my opinion,

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 3>so we can bank on it. If Mariz gets in there, too,

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:11.280
<v Speaker 3>If Lenderberg gets in there if Filing gets in there.

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 3>This is kind of our way, Matt, to bet on

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.839
<v Speaker 3>some of these names. Just talked about sneaking into that

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:20.720
<v Speaker 3>top ten range, and it just if it's Bury's falling

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.840
<v Speaker 3>out because people don't like the shot, if it's Michale

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 3>falling out because people don't trust the injury, or whatever

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 3>the thing is, we just need one of those guys

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:31.319
<v Speaker 3>to fall out and a couple of the Michigan or

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 3>Filing guys to get in. So basically eight or last

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 3>freshman in the top ten, what do you think of

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:37.720
<v Speaker 3>that angle?

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:42.320
<v Speaker 4>I like it. These are the kind of things I

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.879
<v Speaker 4>think you're really good at at analyzing, and I'm very

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:46.879
<v Speaker 4>bad at catching because I can't keep track of one

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't fit into college, and then too just being

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 4>able to track like where these guys are at and

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 4>how much the things are changing as far as like

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:56.399
<v Speaker 4>the freshman. But I think it's a really smart bet

0:49:56.480 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 4>and I look forward to you celebrating it on Twitter

0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:02.360
<v Speaker 4>when you're inevitably draft Knight with the uh uh Scrooge

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 4>McDuck gif.

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, give me some of your other player over unders

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 3>you wanted to get to.

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 4>All right, we'll hit these quickly. I like Mara at

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 4>top ten. By the way, Uh, he's sixty cents to

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:16.719
<v Speaker 4>go top ten. I just I think he's gonna go.

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:19.839
<v Speaker 4>I think he goes top ten. I think he's very Uh.

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:23.279
<v Speaker 4>I've heard very good things about him. A cuff over

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 4>under six and a half, I bet the under because

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:27.879
<v Speaker 4>I just I'm just kind of like, I just feel

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:29.839
<v Speaker 4>like the nets are gonna are the talk has been

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 4>Michael Brown, and I get it. I just really I

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 4>really feel like I just love I love Darius Acuff,

0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:38.919
<v Speaker 4>and I just think that he's not gonna So here's

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 4>the thing. I don't think a Cuff's like, I know

0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 4>what ACF's gonna be. It's gonna be that you can't

0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:44.480
<v Speaker 4>win with this guy. What a loser from you. I

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:46.320
<v Speaker 4>know what that's gonna be. But I'm gonna have a

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:48.399
<v Speaker 4>lot of fun watching Darius Acuff. Like he's just gonna

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:49.759
<v Speaker 4>be a lot of fun to watch. And I love

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.400
<v Speaker 4>Cameron car under sixteen and a half. I kind of

0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:58.399
<v Speaker 4>think that he's worth a reach. I think that he's

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 4>the type of player that guy that guys will reach for.

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 4>I've heard a lot of smart teams talking about Cameron

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 4>Carr you kind I think it's no bet though.

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I misunderstood. I thought potential reach meant you

0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:13.319
<v Speaker 3>thought this would be a reach to take him too soon.

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 3>So I think because of the dearth of wings, I

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 3>have him very fringe lottery. I'm not going to bet

0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 3>that one, but I would lean under if I had

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 3>to go that direction. I don't love his defense, but

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 3>I like his potential to scale down into a three

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:28.400
<v Speaker 3>D type role. So I like that file On O'll

0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 3>runner seventeen and a half. We mentioned already you had

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:34.160
<v Speaker 3>file in top fifteen thirty seven cents. That's kind of

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 3>what I was saying. Is like to me, top ten

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 3>is a stretch like that. We just there's a lot

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:39.759
<v Speaker 3>of there's only ten spots, you know, there's a lot

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:41.880
<v Speaker 3>of guys going to go high. I think top fifteen

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:45.800
<v Speaker 3>is a more realistic outcome. I had other couple of names.

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Do you have other over unders or first rounds to

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 3>go out of here?

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 4>Hit On? I do like two first round bets at

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:54.840
<v Speaker 4>Kelshi josh OOA Jefferson sixty cents. I've just heard. I

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:56.359
<v Speaker 4>think that there's like a lot of people. I think

0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of teams in that range that need

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 4>a power forward, and he's going to fill a lot

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 4>of the requirements. Also, Zuvieja four is eighty four cents.

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 4>I understand it's not a lot of value, but I

0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 4>think this is closer to like ninety five. I think

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 4>he got eleven set edge here. Again, this is not

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 4>like Matt, You're not going to come out a hugely

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 4>big on this, but these are kind of markets that

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:21.240
<v Speaker 4>we don't get other places other than than these prediction markets.

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<v Speaker 4>And so like getting Zubega four is a first round

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:26.840
<v Speaker 4>pick considering what I love the kid. I've heard his workouts,

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 4>he's killed. There's a lot of teams I think they're

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<v Speaker 4>drafting for need for his type of player in the twenties.

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<v Speaker 4>I like Zubega four a lot at eighty four cents

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<v Speaker 4>to go first round.

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<v Speaker 3>My other two names I'll give you I love usually

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of like plunge into the fifteen to thirty

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 3>range and attach this is where I will bet my

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<v Speaker 3>board a little bit and say here's a guy I like.

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<v Speaker 3>I just didn't get quite deep into the weeds enough

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:50.960
<v Speaker 3>on these names, and I think it's not a very

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<v Speaker 3>deep draft here. One name I do like, Abaca Core

0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.319
<v Speaker 3>from Stanford is a guy was very I didn't watch

0:52:56.360 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 3>any of him during the season. I came around very

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 3>late to him. He is the guy. He is a

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 3>walking paint touch like he is getting to the rim

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll see what happens after that. I don't know

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 3>if he's gonna fish great necessarily. I don't know if

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:09.520
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna pass out of it necessarily. He's another one

0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:11.400
<v Speaker 3>of those small point guards, but he has a pretty

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:14.319
<v Speaker 3>big wingspan. I think he actually can defend, but it's

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna be tough when he's like six' to. Two SO

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 3>i will take A corey top twenty is plus one

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:22.759
<v Speaker 3>point fifteen at. FanDuel we know that's not gonna get

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 3>me too, excited So i'll get a little more aggressive

0:53:24.520 --> 0:53:27.239
<v Speaker 3>and go top. Fifteen it's ten percent calshe nine to

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<v Speaker 3>one basically. ODDS i think it's. UNLIKELY i just don't

0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:31.920
<v Speaker 3>think it's nine to one. Unlikely AND i want to

0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:33.239
<v Speaker 3>have a guy to just kind of root for, it

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:34.840
<v Speaker 3>like when we get this guy's name and maybe he

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:37.759
<v Speaker 3>sneaks right into that lottery range and then got to

0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:39.960
<v Speaker 3>end the bet with a no first round or the

0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:42.919
<v Speaker 3>podcast with a no first. Round we Know i'm never

0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 3>the guy drafting big men in the, draft like they're

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 3>always lower on my. Board Jaden quaintance From, KENTUCKY i

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 3>just don't trust the injury status on him at, all at,

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 3>All no bet On Jayden quainton's first. Round it's thirty

0:53:57.160 --> 0:54:00.960
<v Speaker 3>nine percent at calshiy plus one fifty. Six it's not

0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 3>even it's partly my evaluation of, him but it's a

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 3>lingering knee. Injury he could not get on the. Court

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:08.880
<v Speaker 3>he could not stand the court when he did. Play

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:14.120
<v Speaker 3>he's entirely defensive. Upside it's, like to, me a lesser

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:16.080
<v Speaker 3>version Of James, wiseman where you look at the guy

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:17.719
<v Speaker 3>and you're, like oh my, gosh if that buying you

0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 3>on the floor and we can teach him how to play, basketball. Amazing,

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<v Speaker 3>YEAH i don't Want James wiseman on my. Team and

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 3>it's different at the end of the first round instead

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:27.800
<v Speaker 3>of the second. Pick but Telling lee two, things number

0:54:27.840 --> 0:54:32.000
<v Speaker 3>one twenty Four Green room invites No Jane. Quaintons we

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<v Speaker 3>invite the guys we expect to go on draft. Night

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 3>number two cal she has an over under for a

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:39.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of. Players they have under twenty three and a.

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<v Speaker 3>Half that one is priced double to the, over so

0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 3>nobody is expecting him to go in the top twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Four we need him to, go not in the top.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty i'll take a shot at it at plus one

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:52.840
<v Speaker 3>fifty six thirty nine percent At calshie for. Quaintance no

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<v Speaker 3>in the first, Round, MATT i THINK i gave out

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<v Speaker 3>like eight of ten. Bets. No, Today i'm in on prediction.

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