WEBVTT - Train 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:04.840 Hello, everyone, Welcome to Inside the Studio and I Heart Radio. 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:15.600 My name is Jordan Runtog. But enough about me. My 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:18.360 guest today credits a message from the Great Beyond for 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.480 delivering his greatest musical legacy. He was mourning the loss 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:23.440 of his mother to cancer when she appeared to him 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.200 in a dream one night and presented a celestial image 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.200 of hope and comfort in the form of a song. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.920 The result was Drops of Jupiter, the soaring, inspirational piano 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.640 epic that became an instant classic upon its release in 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:36.839 two thousand one. It went on to win a Grammy 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.480 that year for Best Rock Song, and two decades later, 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.080 it's still going strong. It's since gone platinum six times over. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.960 In honor of the song's twentieth anniversary, this year, the 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.440 album of the same name is being reissued with extra 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.159 bonus tracks. Will also be made available on vinyl for 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.479 the very first time. I'm so happy to welcome the 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.440 lead singer of Train, Pat Monahan. Yeah, it's good to 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.760 speak to you too, Jordan's. First of all, how are 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.080 you doing? In the last year has been tough on 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:02.520 all of us. Have you been feeling have you been 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:06.080 holding up well? It's been a wave of emotions Jordan's. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:12.520 It started with disbelief, moved into anger, transferred into sadness, 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.600 drank a whole lot of wine, a lot a lot 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:21.240 of wine, got obsessed with getting better at golf, so 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.479 that that turned back to anger. Then uh, now I'm 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:28.880 back to anger. And in the last month I finally 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:34.840 found um so uh from for me, there's always a 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:39.720 song that isn't always the big song, but it's it's 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.960 the defining song on an album, and I finally wrote 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.760 that defining song, so now I know what the album is. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:50.920 So now for the last three weeks, I've been really encouraged, 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.400 and it just happens to be at the same time 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.560 that you know, herd immunity seems to be working and 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:01.120 vaccines are happening, so it's just a very uh timely. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.720 It just seems like it's the perfect time that all 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.400 of this is working out. Plus the weather is getting better, 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.760 so I'm finally in a good place. Oh that is 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.560 wonderfully here. I mean definitely, there's definitely feels like the 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.040 light at the end of the tunnel. He was was 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.320 the song inspired by that, by that feeling of sort 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:23.640 of like spring is here. Things are opening up. There's hope. No, no, 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.400 not at all. Actually, uh so I was. I have 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.880 a golf buddy and his name is Sydney Rice, and 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.520 he's a former Seattle Seahawk And when we go out 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.400 in golf, even though and please don't tell anyone at 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.320 my golf course, we're not allowed to be playing music 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:43.280 out there, but Sydney he doesn't really care because he's 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.440 a big, strong guy and if somebody's gonna tell him 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.320 to turn his music off, he'll be like, are you sure, 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.400 and they'll be like, no, not really. So he actually 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.799 is about thirty. I think he's thirty four, thirty three, 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:58.400 thirty four. He's always turning me onto new music, which 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.000 you know, you would think be the other way around. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.320 But and so I just was so inspired by these 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:08.280 young guys doing such cool throwback music that I was like, 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.320 oh my god, I think I think I know how 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.400 to do that. And so this is gonna be a 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.440 very different Train album. And it's all inspired by a 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.120 friend of mine on the golf course. That's awesome. What 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.760 kind of stubs planning for you? Well? I found the 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.760 Seattle band called the Dip, and I just think they 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.880 are the Shi yet. And there's a lot of other 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.919 bands that that he's turned me onto. There's Duran Jones 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.600 and uh, that band is nuts so good, Like I 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.240 can't believe how good all those guys in the band 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.000 can sing. So it's just I'm finding music like that 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.560 like this, and it's like a new inspiration because I've 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.560 been listening to hip hop for three straight years and 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.520 so this is a nice transition. Have you earlier in 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.240 the year, have you been feeling productive musically or because 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:54.920 that's what I always talk all my friends and everybody 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.160 I talked to say, half the people are super motivated. 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:58.840 They get up there, make a banana, brother, they're doing 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:00.520 this or doing that. And then the other half the 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.800 time and thinking, Okay, I got my pants on, this 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:04.800 is a good day, Like this is that's my my 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.800 achievement for the day. Were you feeling earlier in the year, 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:08.880 were you feeling really motivated to make music or is 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:13.560 that back and forth? Yeah, it has not been a 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.080 very encouraging or creative time for me. I've had to 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.440 like wor really work through it, work through those times. 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.080 But you know, when you are kind of an overprivileged 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.960 white guy in the music business, it's hard to find 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.800 someone that you can complain to, you know, Like, so 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:31.960 I just try to just keep quiet about it and 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.680 wait for the shift. You know. When the shift came, 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.560 and so now I can talk about the prior sadness. 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.640 Instead of poor me, you should feel for me. It's 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.640 more like, hey, I'm I'm back. Oh that is good 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.120 to hear. We can't wait to hear more from you. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.599 We we're here to talk to you about the twentieth anniversary. 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.640 That's hard to believe. Of drops a Jupiter. No, No, 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.599 I'm not. I just wanted to tell you about that. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.840 I'm out now. I've got more golf stores. I'm happy here. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.040 Those two all right, I'm because I'm just kidding. I'm 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:02.479 more of a bowler myself. But incredible song. That song 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.320 means so much to so many people. Has the meaning 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:09.839 of the song changed for you over the last two decades? Well, 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.320 I mean, you know, like all music, I think that 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.760 at first it's for you, for the writer, and then 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.440 soon after that it's not for you anymore. It's not 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.480 that's that song is not for me. It was a 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.719 really important part of my healing because I had lost 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.240 my mother and we were desperate for any kind of 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.480 song that was going to make a connection, just so 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.280 we could keep making albums. You know. It's like at 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.240 a time where it cost a lot of money to 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.320 make an album, and the only way someone was going 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:43.120 to support that, uh, that habit, as you would say, 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.880 was to keep making music that was compelling to others. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.560 And we just didn't have the goods on that album. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.360 And it was a very very frustrating time. So when 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.960 Trump's Jupiter was written, it was very quick. It was 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.679 from a dream. It was just basically my mom saying, 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:05.000 this is what it's like afterlife. Then the song was 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.800 recorded and and put on the radio, and then it 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.720 wasn't for me anymore. It was for other people. I said. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.080 It came new into dreams. It's funny often that happens. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.520 If Keith Richard's dream in the Satisfaction riff, you have 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.720 Paul McCartney, you're only dreaming yesterday. But also his mother 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.479 came to him and that's where Let it Be came from. 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.400 Did the words in the music come together or was 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.760 it just a snippet of a phrase of music or 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.680 just a snippet of the lyrics, or was it all 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.000 all there in your hand. It was just all there, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.040 it was all it was all vocal, melody and lyric. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.120 And then the next day, you know, putting a very 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:46.040 primal piano to h to the melody. That is amazing. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.839 I Uh, it's funny how vivid those dreams are with 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.279 with your late parents there full disclosure, I lost my 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.360 mother to cancer about maybe six months before drops a 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.080 Jupiter came out, and when it it did came out, 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.840 it you know, it obviously has a very special place 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.039 for me for that reason, for that the reason that 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.599 we share. It's it's very interesting how those dreams is. 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.680 I dream a lot. I never remember them, but I 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.720 always remember those when when the couple, but only handful 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:12.360 of times. Maybe she ever come back to you in 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:16.560 a dream? No, it never, it never reoccurred. Yeah, it 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.520 was a really really strange time for me to think 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.880 about it now and to think about that one time. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.720 Is was definitely didn't seem very coincidental. You know, it 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.320 seemed very like my my wife asked me the other day, 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.120 she said, uh, what do you think happens to us 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.280 after this? And I was like, well, this is not 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.840 like a five minute while I'm in the shower conversation, 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.400 but if you'd like to know. And so we started 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.480 to really talk about it, and I think drops A 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:50.360 Jupiter actually gave me some type of faith that maybe 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.000 it's not just a dark hole in the ground that 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.960 that's the end. Maybe there's just a waiting pattern afterwards 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.840 that we get to help others. I don't really know 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.400 the answer to all of it, but I know that 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:06.440 she definitely made a big enough impression, either in the 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.920 time that she was with me or afterwards, that that 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:21.640 was a real That was a real moment. It was 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.760 an interview you gave I think fairly recently. Were you 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.760 saying the song is as much about your mother it 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.880 is as it is about you and you growing and changing. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.600 What is the song taught you? I don't know. I 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.200 guess the word faith again. You know, some people have 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:38.720 religion or god and and some people have you know, 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:43.160 sports or and I guess for me, it's uh music. 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.680 You know that that music has given me faith And 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.280 something like something happened to me about a month ago 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.640 where I was pretty down, I mean about a month ago, 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.480 right before everything kind of kicked into gear. I was 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:59.960 like pretty much feeling really bad for myself for super 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.920 super dumb reasons. No, no one would ever relate in 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.520 a way that they should relate. And so I was 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.600 kind of, you know, complaining to a friend about having 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.360 hurt feelings and you know, and things like that. And 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.880 it was among other other friends too. There were there 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.760 three other guys, and I was explaining to them, like 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.959 the feelings that I was going through and I had 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:24.520 been hurt by people. And what they said to me 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.040 as a response made me remember that I have to 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:33.359 just have faith, like the universe knows what you need somehow, 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.800 and I just needed to just believe in my friendships 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:39.960 and believe in the things that matter the most to me. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.320 And they reminded me that I was being a knucklehead 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:44.839 and it was really important for me. And so music 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.000 does that for me, like when I hear like that's 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.240 why I listened to hip hop so much. And now 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:53.400 this new version of or new cycle of music that 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.880 I've been listening to because it's kind of young people's 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:59.600 stories to remind me that guys my age should sometimes 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.240 just shut up and listen, you know, like we we 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.120 think that the old cat should be heard most, but 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.679 sometimes not so much. Was there somebody when you first 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.320 started out listening to music that really made you think, Okay, 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:12.960 this is what I want to do. I want to 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.880 I want to share my voice as well. Well, I 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.600 was the last of seven kids, and my dad listened 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.720 to a lot of jazz records, and uh, my brothers 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:27.040 would be, you know, using their Beatles records to sort 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:32.120 out their their marijuana from stems and seeds and roll 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.680 their joints, and then my sisters will be listening to 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:39.080 James Taylor and Chris Christofferson and uh, you know, I 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.800 got to hear the Ohio Players and led Zeppelin and 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.120 you know, everything that was happening. And uh then I 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.480 found Michael Jackson kind of that was my artist at 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.040 the time, and I was able to sing like him 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:56.080 and my brother I remember going like damn boy, Like 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.520 you know, he was way older than me. And just 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.679 to think that an older sibling would take one second 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:07.440 to give you one moment of something pleasant was that 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.839 made is a pretty good sign. That's a positive reinforcement 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.160 right there. Well, I mean, speaking of positive reinforcement, what 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.520 was talking to me about winning a Grammy? The Grammy 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.160 because not only must have been cool, but you know, 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.640 you were handed it by Don Henley and you toour 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.120 in the front row. You know that that you beat 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.440 I think twice. I think they were nominated twice for 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.400 for Best Rock Song. What did that feel like? I mean, 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.959 just taking it to the opposite extreme from from you 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.160 your brother giving you note, your older brother giving you notice, 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.679 to having the eyes of the musical world on you. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:41.400 How how does that feel? It was pretty surreal? You know, 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:45.200 I was not a seasoned guy and how to be 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:50.120 grateful on a stage, you know, like I learned a 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.840 lot of hard lessons about how to be grateful and why, 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.920 but professionally grateful that's hard to do, you know what 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.800 I mean, like to be to be gracious on stage? 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.160 You know, I'm I'm not a guy that's going to 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.320 go up there and be like, you know, these awards 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:11.320 are bullshit, bro, Like I'm here just because, um, you know, 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.240 and that's just not who I've ever been. And uh, 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.000 I wanted to make sure that my my mother got 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.880 some props because she probably wrote the thing, and um, 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.640 I don't remember it. You know. It was just such 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:32.160 a blowing, forceful, just a sketch of a moment that 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.320 was so quick that I don't remember much about it, 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.640 except for being backstage and having my picture taken, but 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.720 knowing that the photographers were waiting for the next hot 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.880 chick to come in that was far more interesting than 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.400 I was that, so I just wanted to get the 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.640 heck out of There's all about those moments. I guess 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.760 I want to ask you. I read, do the best 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.640 songs come quickly? The ones that you almost don't even 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:56.080 have to work on? I guess, like drops the Jupiters. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.760 I think I read that you said, Hey, Soul's sister 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.920 came almost equally as fast as that does? That Is 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.080 that usually a sign for you that those are the 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.840 ones that just are almost delivered fully formed? It? Does? 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.600 They do have that in common. I'm not good at 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:14.240 recognizing high quality things like that or whatever the thing 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.800 would be. Uh, I don't. I'm not good at recognizing 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:21.920 songs that could potentially be hits. Um. I'm the worst 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.640 at it. And I'm not good at titling songs like 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.560 I called it Drops a Jupiter because it was such 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:32.240 a such an interesting three words, like it was the 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.960 most interesting three words in the whole composition. How do 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.880 you call it? You know? Tell me like that's just 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.840 not that interesting to me, but I was. I was 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.480 asked to change it, to tell me over and over 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.680 and over again, until it was called drops the Jupiter 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:51.080 in parentheses tell me anyway. Um, I don't know why 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.000 things come fast. Well, I guess they're just supposed to 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.640 be there. I mean a song like Troups the Jupiter 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.680 to me, it's it's so poetic and so specific, which 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.559 I guess in a lot of cases that sometimes leads 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:05.720 to misinterpretations because it's so specific. Are there any myths 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.199 or mistakes that people have about it that you might 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.079 want to clear up involving I don't know, soy lattees 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.880 or fried chicken or falling from a falling star or something. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.200 Is there anything for the ages that you would like 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.880 to to clear up now about that song? Yeah, those 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.360 are all things. So I was definitely asked to get 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:26.440 rid of soy latte hundred percent asked to get rid 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:30.440 of fried Chicken. It's fall for a shooting star and 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.800 not from a shooting star, because the idea was did 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.720 you fall for somebody that was that looked like a 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:41.120 better you know, because I had to turn what was 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.560 about my mother into a love song. You know about 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.320 maybe two young people. But and then the last thing, 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.360 my favorite thing is that people really thought I was 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:53.000 saying and that van Halen is overrated. And so I 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:57.040 got a lot of this is early this early internet days, 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.120 and so I got a lot of hate mail about 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.280 you know, you got a lot of nerve, bitch van 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.360 Halen rules you still compared to van Halen. I'm Michael, 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.320 I don't even I don't even know why you're mad 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.640 at me? What does this even mean? And then I 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:14.240 found out that they thought I was saying. It's so 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.680 funny because like Sammy Hagar and I have been friends 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:20.600 for fifteen years, and I used to golf with with 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.280 Eddie van Halen, and it's just so cute that that was. 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.600 I adore those guys. You know, I never met the 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.520 other Fellows, but I love that band. What were they 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.120 like to golf with? That's that's amazing. He's just you know, 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.240 Eddie was such a quiet, mild mannered guy, you know 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.000 he was. I don't know if that was in the 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.480 second half of his life or if that's just you know, 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.080 who he was when I knew him. But he was 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.800 just so sweet. Man. I want to invite to one 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.320 of your golf games. You've got a good got a 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:59.440 good going, You're good. I'm kidding. My favorite guy to 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.960 golf with a the whole world is George Lopez. He is. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.280 He has a charity tournament every year. I hope he 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.200 has it this year because it's my favorite thing to 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.520 do in the whole world. Oh man, is it later 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.160 on the year? I hope that happens and he's Actually 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.920 he's why I know Eddie van Halen is because of George. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:19.840 WHOA how was that introduction? I met George at a well. 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.000 I was on the George Lopez Show with Hay soul 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.440 Sister the same day that that Cheech and Chong were on. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.280 So that was a huge day for me because I 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:32.000 I love all three of those guys. And then I 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.880 didn't see George for years and didn't realize that he 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:36.760 was into golf and I had just started to get 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:41.480 into golf. So uh, we were on this San Francisco 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.560 golf slash cooking show together and then we just stayed 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.840 friends and we're very close. Now. I hope that that 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.960 opens up soon. Now pouring opens up soon as well. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.720 I mean, I know that's got to be tough. This 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.200 last year and not being able to for so many reason. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.440 Nothing of the engage with your friends. What's filled that 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.680 space for you? Have you been big on social media 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.400 just in keeping you know, in contact with all the 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.119 people that love you and your music? Uh? You know, 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.000 I mean I think early on we did some TikTok 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:13.760 stuff and tried to stay socially active. But honestly, Jordan's 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.520 I think sometimes it's good for people to go away 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.120 for a little while, and so I don't think it's 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.400 a bad thing to be missed. I think it's endearing 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.600 and and adds here's the thing, it's a beautiful part 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.840 of humanity. If I can come back with an album 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.760 that is worth a ship, then I missed and it's 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.760 worth the weight. Otherwise, you know, Oh, we really missed you, 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.800 And I just heard that new crappy song. Uh, you know, 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.040 I'd rather it was like, Man, we really missed you, 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.480 and you're still my favorite band. This new album is 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.200 just my favorite. That's going to be. That is what 0:17:48.359 --> 0:18:01.480 I lived for. How the Zoom songwriting session has been going. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.919 Has that been working for you? You are more solitary. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.560 Do you like doing it on your own? First? I've 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.280 been pretty bummed out about the zoom writing until about 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.040 a month ago, and then I was like, man, it's 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.840 working out. It's working for me. I love it. I'm 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.960 just good with it, uh, because it gets lonely. I'm 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.040 like in my studio now and I like interacting with people, 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.520 and and you know, half the time we're together, we're 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.880 just trying to make each other laugh, and then there's 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:30.639 fifteen minutes of work. So this this way, I just 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:33.760 have to get to work more often, and that's not 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.359 as fun. But I'm learning how to do it better 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.840 and and manage my my loneliness, you know, and turning 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.200 it into fuel. Do you have a rough idea of 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.120 when when fans can expect the new album or EP 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.359 or single or is that that's still a little further 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.040 down the line. I feel like it shouldn't be until 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.840 after the summer, you know. I mean, we're we're planning 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.560 on a big summer tour for two thousand twenty two 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:02.920 in amphitheater around the country and going into Europe and Australia. 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.200 And you know, I haven't have still haven't been to 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.200 South Africa and meet so many South Africans that are like, man, 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.600 your music is just so big and we've just never 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:15.199 been there. I'd love to stop saying that. So I 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.080 think that Fall would make a lot of sense to 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.480 have a first single, maybe put the album out in 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:25.119 November perhaps, and then by the time the concert tickets 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.960 come for sale, you can buy the album and it 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.680 all all makes sense, and people will start looking forward 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.960 to that Summer Vibes, because this is a Summer Vibes 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.639 album for sure. I at the other end of the spectrum, 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.800 I read that you were filming a movie based on 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:42.639 I believe your Christmas album, Christmas and Tahoe. Do I 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.720 have that right? Yeah, they're you know, we're gonna shoot 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.400 a movie for it. I still haven't seen the script, 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.280 and I was hoping that I would see it by now, 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:55.840 because it'll be shot in Tahoe obviously, and they still 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.440 have snow, so I don't know how much longer they'll 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:00.800 have snow, but I ink snow is going to be 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:04.040 an important part of the whole Christmas and Tahoe experience. 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:08.479 But yeah, and then my friend Neil McDonough, who's an 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:11.000 extraordinary actor who you've seen a hundred times in a 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.480 hundred movies and was one of the really good, bad 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:18.400 guys in yellow Stone. He asked me to be in 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.440 a movie, and so about two months ago I went 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:24.919 and shot I'm in the first scene of a movie 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.240 called Boon. So I'm excited to see that. Maybe that 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.360 would be the beginning of a you know, maybe I'm 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.480 the next Brad Pitt Jordan. You never know. Hell yeah, 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.720 I mean that's something you really want to do more of? Yeah, 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.680 I would. I wouldn't mind if it was a specific thing. 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.960 And you know, I knew that acting is very difficult, 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:46.160 Like you have to really really care a lot. It's 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.000 like music where you know, yeah, maybe you get lucky 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:52.360 and have one song do well. But honestly, if you 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:54.879 want to be good at it, you need to commit 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:58.000 your life to it. So I don't know that I 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.359 can commit my life to acting, and I know that 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:04.160 I have the talent to be good at both things, 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.960 but I wouldn't mind trying once in a while. One 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.280 of the things been keeping me saying during lockdown is 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.840 watching a lot of movies. Have you been watching a lot? Yeah? 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:16.480 That's another thing that my friend Sydney Rice. I go, hey, Sydney, 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:20.800 do you watch Netflix? And he said, I have watched Netflix, 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:30.840 meaning to I have already watched a Netflix. I feel 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:34.200