1
00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,480
Speaker 1: Good news everyone, I listen to the Black Guy Who

2
00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,240
Speaker 1: Tips podcast because Rod and Karen are hot.

3
00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,600
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Black Autist Podcast.

4
00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm your host, Rod joined us always by my cost

5
00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,280
Speaker 2: and we're live on a Monday night, ready to give

6
00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,640
Speaker 2: you a little bit of podcast and find us everywhere

7
00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,920
Speaker 2: your fine podcasts. The official weapon of the show is

8
00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:32,280
Speaker 2: voting chair and unofficial sport a bullet ball extreme extreme extreme. Yes,

9
00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,680
Speaker 2: you know. All the contact information to be able to

10
00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,560
Speaker 2: be part of our feedback show that we do every

11
00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,880
Speaker 2: Saturday is in the show notes, including ways to sign

12
00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,120
Speaker 2: up to be a premium listener, ways to sign up

13
00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,320
Speaker 2: to be part of our Patreon YouTube, like all these

14
00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,159
Speaker 2: places you can follow us. I think we're almost at

15
00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,800
Speaker 2: five thousand followers on YouTube, which you know, maybe that's

16
00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,160
Speaker 2: small potatoes to other people, but that's big, big for us.

17
00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,160
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, we're at four point nine to six k.

18
00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,160
Speaker 2: So what does that mean we need four hundred subscribers?

19
00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,520
Speaker 2: Is that what that means? Four point nine six k?

20
00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,680
Speaker 2: Or does that mean we need four I don't know

21
00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,800
Speaker 2: what that number means. Probably four hundred, right, No, forty,

22
00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,160
Speaker 2: we need forty people to get the five thousand on

23
00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,160
Speaker 2: our YouTube. So hey, if you out there and you're like, oh,

24
00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,600
Speaker 2: I got YouTube, I'll be on there watching podcasts sometimes,

25
00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:36,200
Speaker 2: well click on us, ken folks, but help us get

26
00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,360
Speaker 2: to that five k Okay, we're trying to do that,

27
00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,240
Speaker 2: all right, Karen, any banter for today?

28
00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:43,840
Speaker 1: It's yes?

29
00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,240
Speaker 2: All right?

30
00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:55,880
Speaker 3: Do you have any? Do you have any?

31
00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:02,400
Speaker 2: Do you have any? Banter? Banter answered banter? Do you

32
00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:02,800
Speaker 2: have any?

33
00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,480
Speaker 1: Talk to me?

34
00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,040
Speaker 2: Do you have any? All right?

35
00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,679
Speaker 1: I just have one in this short sweet I told

36
00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,960
Speaker 1: y'all that I went to the farmer's market. I had

37
00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,839
Speaker 1: got some apple cider. Yeah, and it is absolutely delicious.

38
00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,799
Speaker 1: And not only is it good, I was reading online

39
00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,960
Speaker 1: like things you can kind of mix in with it,

40
00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,880
Speaker 1: and one of the things was vodka. So I love

41
00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,840
Speaker 1: I love sweet tea vodka. So I put my apple

42
00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,079
Speaker 1: cider with some sweet tea vodka and it was absolutely delicious.

43
00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,360
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm drinking on.

44
00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,280
Speaker 2: You sound like you drink it? On it?

45
00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,320
Speaker 1: I am good?

46
00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,800
Speaker 2: Is it? Do you warm it? In the chat asked

47
00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:56,560
Speaker 2: if you warmed.

48
00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,919
Speaker 1: It, you probably can't warm it. Yeah, I didn't want

49
00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,600
Speaker 1: my cold.

50
00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I like you cold.

51
00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,600
Speaker 1: You probably can't warm you know, me warming up and

52
00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,440
Speaker 1: and kind of spike it like that too, and put

53
00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,640
Speaker 1: some cinnamon sticks in it. They're probably absolutely outstanding. But

54
00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,480
Speaker 1: but did I did it cold this time? I probably

55
00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,640
Speaker 1: might warm it up next time. But yeah, this is

56
00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,120
Speaker 1: absolutely delicious. I didn't know how it was gonna taste

57
00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,960
Speaker 1: the Sweet Tea vodka. I normally take my Sweet Tea vodka,

58
00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,400
Speaker 1: and I crossed it with apple juice, with like regular

59
00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,639
Speaker 1: apple juice, and I also cross with lemonade.

60
00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:26,600
Speaker 2: Okay, that's when.

61
00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,200
Speaker 1: That's one of my personal favorite as as a shout

62
00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,000
Speaker 1: out to miss Smart, I got that Negro palette. I

63
00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,040
Speaker 1: like it sweet.

64
00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,280
Speaker 2: If your team's not over five hundred in the NFL

65
00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:45,520
Speaker 2: approaching November, what are you even doing? I can't even imagine.

66
00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:51,600
Speaker 1: Could be me, me me not being five imagine over

67
00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:52,720
Speaker 1: five hundred.

68
00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,520
Speaker 2: Imagine the Panther's not being five hundred right now? Can

69
00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,000
Speaker 2: you imagine not being.

70
00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:57,680
Speaker 1: Over five hundred?

71
00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,600
Speaker 2: Okay, they say j E T S. I say G

72
00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,560
Speaker 2: E T S. Your ass about it here? Because y'all

73
00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,440
Speaker 2: done took another seven. I know the feeling. We've been

74
00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:10,960
Speaker 2: there before.

75
00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,280
Speaker 1: Yes, we have child, I think we all, I think

76
00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,360
Speaker 1: we you We went like one game the whole season,

77
00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,880
Speaker 1: so child, I feel you, But right now I'm in

78
00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,679
Speaker 1: the room, so I'm gonna enjoy the moment.

79
00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been nice. Now Rice Young ankle fucked up,

80
00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,240
Speaker 2: and the dog gonna be the quarterback next week, so

81
00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,680
Speaker 2: we might be back to five hundred. But you know what,

82
00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna enjoy that. That's next week's problem.

83
00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's next week. This week's problem.

84
00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,920
Speaker 2: It's not a problem.

85
00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,960
Speaker 1: This week. We won the game and I and I

86
00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,279
Speaker 1: actually stayed up because most of the time going to

87
00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,960
Speaker 1: sleep and mincing the game because I'm like, they're gonna.

88
00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,320
Speaker 2: Lose just the Uh. This is honestly the most optimistic

89
00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,839
Speaker 2: it gets for around here, because as Panthers are Hornets

90
00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,400
Speaker 2: fans horned season hasn't started, so there's no catastrophe to

91
00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,080
Speaker 2: be worried about yet and Panthers are above expectations. Yeah,

92
00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,760
Speaker 2: so we love to see it. And if you guys

93
00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,640
Speaker 2: don't get to see it, but shout out to the Panthers.

94
00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,520
Speaker 1: Yes, it has actually been fun to watch them and

95
00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,720
Speaker 1: see the defense defense and and like that, like, let's go.

96
00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,599
Speaker 2: I don't know how they go win every week. It

97
00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,000
Speaker 2: makes no sense. Some days it's a thirty zero blowout.

98
00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,080
Speaker 2: Some days it's a last se could come back, and

99
00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,080
Speaker 2: of course some days it's lost, but we don't talk

100
00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,080
Speaker 2: about those days. The other thing I was gonna mention is, uh,

101
00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,840
Speaker 2: sometimes the best part of my walk, Like I took

102
00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,800
Speaker 2: a longer walk today for me, So it was over

103
00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,000
Speaker 2: an hour. Normally I do like around an hour a

104
00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,720
Speaker 2: little under an hour. But it's been cooler lately.

105
00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, last we did, I didn't feel as hot, like,

106
00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,760
Speaker 1: like it was a lot more relaxed.

107
00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,640
Speaker 2: I walked over there by the Farmers Market, which is

108
00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,360
Speaker 2: closed on Mondays. Okay, if it would have been open,

109
00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,760
Speaker 2: I might have went over there and grabbed apple or something.

110
00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. But sometimes the best my walk is

111
00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,600
Speaker 2: actually just sitting down and halfway through. Like sometimes I'll

112
00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,160
Speaker 2: sit out there ten twenty minutes sometimes and just be outside,

113
00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,279
Speaker 2: you know it's a nice day like this, you know,

114
00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,200
Speaker 2: people walking by and the area. I went back to

115
00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,599
Speaker 2: that park, Pearl Park, Pearl Street Park, which apparently is

116
00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,080
Speaker 2: like it was like a black park, a historical siting.

117
00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,360
Speaker 1: Didn't you know it? Yeah?

118
00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,480
Speaker 2: I didn't even know it. Yeah, Like they had pictures

119
00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,200
Speaker 2: and explanations up about black history around that park and

120
00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,800
Speaker 2: there's a statue there's black Man on the way up

121
00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,280
Speaker 2: there that I had never a historical figure in Charlotte.

122
00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,919
Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about. So, you know, I'm learning

123
00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,680
Speaker 2: more about my city. But yeah, sometimes just sitting out

124
00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,720
Speaker 2: there being in nature. It's and not even nature, right,

125
00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,920
Speaker 2: it's just outside, just sitting outside, but.

126
00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,479
Speaker 1: It is kind of in nature because when you're in

127
00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,839
Speaker 1: your home, you're not in nature.

128
00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, just sitting outside. And you know, and I've come

129
00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,720
Speaker 2: a long way with that because I feel like I

130
00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:54,400
Speaker 2: used to just.

131
00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,480
Speaker 1: Like who walks outside?

132
00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,520
Speaker 2: Well, also I used to sit outside and I'm like

133
00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,400
Speaker 2: it's above on, you know, oh God, that butterfly's gonna

134
00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,400
Speaker 2: kill me. And now just sit out there and chill

135
00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:12,360
Speaker 2: and just get my thoughts together and just be out there.

136
00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,560
Speaker 2: I don't really have much going on or like there's

137
00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,160
Speaker 2: nothing now I'm planning to do or thinking about. It's

138
00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,480
Speaker 2: really sometimes it be like that, not you know, I

139
00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,880
Speaker 2: recommended to everybody if you get a chance, you know,

140
00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,880
Speaker 2: you don't even have to do the exercise or nothing,

141
00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,160
Speaker 2: just go sit outside and chill and walk.

142
00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,320
Speaker 1: Or they've done studies on that and they was telling

143
00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,320
Speaker 1: people people who actually go outside and just sit. They

144
00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,560
Speaker 1: were saying, just being outside makes you feel better. It's

145
00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,440
Speaker 1: something about it, and particularly if you get into the

146
00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,600
Speaker 1: sun and things like that, just makes you feel better.

147
00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then the other thing. I'm almost done with

148
00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,920
Speaker 2: my book, Digital Madness. I'm sure I'll be moving on

149
00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:54,440
Speaker 2: to another book soon, but it's getting so I thought

150
00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,360
Speaker 2: when I got this book, I was gonna get more

151
00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:04,200
Speaker 2: data driven stuff about just the Internet, social media and

152
00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:09,200
Speaker 2: how it interacts and trends with the mental health of

153
00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,760
Speaker 2: people throughout the world and stuff. And it was that

154
00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,840
Speaker 2: for the beginning, and then it kind of switched into

155
00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,200
Speaker 2: just like some stuff about you know, Silicon Valley and

156
00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,440
Speaker 2: technocrats and all this stuff. And now the last probably

157
00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,000
Speaker 2: fourth of this book has really taken a turn because

158
00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,120
Speaker 2: it's about the guy's kind of personal story and then

159
00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,000
Speaker 2: what he thinks the solutions are for a world that

160
00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,480
Speaker 2: is basically being driven crazy by social media. And it

161
00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,120
Speaker 2: starts it's starting to get into that like spiritual philosophical stuff,

162
00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,360
Speaker 2: which is not that I'm against it, but I don't

163
00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,559
Speaker 2: take to it as easy as just here's the data. Yes,

164
00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,480
Speaker 2: you know, here's some things. Because I'm willing to consider

165
00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,160
Speaker 2: almost anything that's data driven. Like I'm not saying I'm

166
00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,960
Speaker 2: going to agree with it, but you know, I'll take

167
00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,640
Speaker 2: in the argument, and I'm and I'm taking in the

168
00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,840
Speaker 2: arguments about the philosophy. But the end it starts talking

169
00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,560
Speaker 2: about how he odeed and it was in a coma

170
00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,600
Speaker 2: four week and when he came out he wanted to

171
00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,160
Speaker 2: find like purpose for his life.

172
00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,600
Speaker 1: And Okay, so you're basically getting away from I'm not

173
00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,080
Speaker 1: sading away from the foundation of the book, but yeah,

174
00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,959
Speaker 1: you are getting away from the foundation.

175
00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,360
Speaker 2: You know, I don't do I don't do great with

176
00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,719
Speaker 2: anecdotal spiritual stuff. I'm not saying it's bad, but like,

177
00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,559
Speaker 2: if you were trying to convince me of an argument,

178
00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,320
Speaker 2: one of the worst ways to try to convince me

179
00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,920
Speaker 2: is with some like nebulous shit, because I'm like, that's you.

180
00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,400
Speaker 2: I don't like, I don't know that. You know, like

181
00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,520
Speaker 2: you're quoting all these philosophers and all that stuff, and

182
00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,880
Speaker 2: that's cool, but that their philosophy doesn't necessarily mean that

183
00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,640
Speaker 2: I buy their arguments over anything else that I'm seeing

184
00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,640
Speaker 2: right now. And it's not that those people are dumb

185
00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,240
Speaker 2: or wrong, it's just, you know, that's what Socrates had

186
00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,800
Speaker 2: thoughts Socrates, he's never lived in a world with a plane,

187
00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,120
Speaker 2: Like I don't write, like, I don't know what was

188
00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,320
Speaker 2: he a thought today? I don't know, you know, So

189
00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,560
Speaker 2: the end is kind of losing me just because it's

190
00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:16,400
Speaker 2: turning into so many like nebulous concepts. Although I do, uh,

191
00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,000
Speaker 2: because you I've read so much of the book. I'm

192
00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,200
Speaker 2: not I'm giving, I'm taking, I'm considering the argument. So

193
00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,120
Speaker 2: and I agree with a lot of it, Like it's

194
00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,120
Speaker 2: not like, oh, this is some bullshit. It's like I

195
00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,280
Speaker 2: agree with that, but I don't know that it proves

196
00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:29,720
Speaker 2: a thing.

197
00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because like you said, those things they happened,

198
00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,280
Speaker 1: their facts, but they're not like statistical a this this, and.

199
00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,560
Speaker 2: You're plucking this and now the book is kind of

200
00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,240
Speaker 2: like plucking things from life to trying to adjust to

201
00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,720
Speaker 2: his thoughts. But I'm not sure that those things prove it. So,

202
00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,440
Speaker 2: for example, one of the things he talks about is

203
00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,680
Speaker 2: how we've done society maybe have done too much to

204
00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,600
Speaker 2: get rid of adversity, and adversity is a good thing,

205
00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,440
Speaker 2: but we kind of lately and I agree with him

206
00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,559
Speaker 2: that I feel like, especially social media wise, we had

207
00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,880
Speaker 2: gone a little to a lot of people, not everyone,

208
00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,760
Speaker 2: but a lot of people are gone too far with

209
00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,679
Speaker 2: we're trying to solve for the idea of like people

210
00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,960
Speaker 2: experiencing trauma. Stuff, were going to make sure people don't.

211
00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,400
Speaker 2: But then we also went to this area where it's like,

212
00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,280
Speaker 2: you should not ever have to persevere anything. You should

213
00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,560
Speaker 2: never and if you don't learn to persevere, you don't

214
00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,040
Speaker 2: learn you can persevere. Agreed, if you don't learn you

215
00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,000
Speaker 2: can overcome challenges because you're not being challenged, then you

216
00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,000
Speaker 2: don't like there's a detriment to not learning those things.

217
00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,800
Speaker 2: But then it's like, you know, somebody did a study

218
00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,480
Speaker 2: and they did cadets at West Point, and some of

219
00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,800
Speaker 2: them dropped out because you know, they didn't do well

220
00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,000
Speaker 2: on this test that said could you handle adversity? And

221
00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,800
Speaker 2: the ones that stay did well on the test. And

222
00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know that this is so much

223
00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,360
Speaker 2: about the digital madness anymore, or this is more like

224
00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,120
Speaker 2: your prescription for the world. And I don't know how

225
00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,360
Speaker 2: feasible this prescription is gonna be. It would take a

226
00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:12,120
Speaker 2: supreme societal change. But part of me, Y' also feels

227
00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,679
Speaker 2: like this is what happens because I believe he's a

228
00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,680
Speaker 2: white dude. I think this is kind of what happens

229
00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,480
Speaker 2: with a certain type of mentality. I'm gonna describe it

230
00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,800
Speaker 2: as white. I don't think it's not racial, but I'm

231
00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,080
Speaker 2: call it a white mentality. But it's you can't have

232
00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,040
Speaker 2: a problem and not try to solve.

233
00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,160
Speaker 1: It m versus saying it is.

234
00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I would have been fine if you wrap

235
00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,160
Speaker 2: this shit up like two chapters two chapters ago and

236
00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,440
Speaker 2: been like, hey man, we're cooked, Like we ain't getting

237
00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,640
Speaker 2: out of this one. I don't know what to tell y'all.

238
00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't really got no answers, but it would take.

239
00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,200
Speaker 2: A seismic shift in our value system. And as I

240
00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,600
Speaker 2: have illustrated in the first two hundred and thirty pages,

241
00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,160
Speaker 2: it don't seem like we trending towards uh, that seismic

242
00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,240
Speaker 2: shift that will switch things back. And I wonder that's

243
00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,480
Speaker 2: like editors putting pressure on you, like no, you can't

244
00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:02,920
Speaker 2: endure with.

245
00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,480
Speaker 1: A sad nothing And isn't it I won't say it's

246
00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,480
Speaker 1: a ton of hozy coats. How a lot of people

247
00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,599
Speaker 1: can plain about his stuff because they'll be like, it

248
00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,400
Speaker 1: ain't your almost like their fucking fairy tale like, ain't

249
00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,360
Speaker 1: you gonna make give us a happy end? It ain't

250
00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna make us feel good. He's like, no, bitch,

251
00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:16,679
Speaker 1: I'm not.

252
00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you want me to look at this weather

253
00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,720
Speaker 2: report and be like, or maybe it won't rain right,

254
00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,400
Speaker 2: It's like, well, according to this all the data that

255
00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,600
Speaker 2: that I have that show predicts the past, shows from

256
00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,560
Speaker 2: the past and predicts the future, it always rains. Yeah,

257
00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,400
Speaker 2: but it could not rain right. Well, you're right at

258
00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,760
Speaker 2: ending where you say maybe it won't rain. You know,

259
00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,200
Speaker 2: it's like climate change. Everyone wants people to talk about

260
00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,280
Speaker 2: climate change and then be like, but if human beings

261
00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,160
Speaker 2: all tomorrow stop burning carbon, It's like, you know they're

262
00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,160
Speaker 2: not so, but they won't, So why are you even

263
00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,319
Speaker 2: making them put that in the report? You know that

264
00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,680
Speaker 2: that's not true because it keeps giving people this illusion

265
00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,599
Speaker 2: of well, we'll put it off to tomorrow. We'll just

266
00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,160
Speaker 2: stop burning carbon tomorrow. It's like, no, we should have

267
00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:03,559
Speaker 2: been stopped twenty years ago. Done so anyway. But I'm

268
00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,880
Speaker 2: still gonna finish the book. I'm still enjoying the book,

269
00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,960
Speaker 2: and I still think it's overall good, and there's a

270
00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,920
Speaker 2: lot of stuff in there that you know, I've thought about,

271
00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:18,720
Speaker 2: uh that that has made me think about and illuminated

272
00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,000
Speaker 2: and stuff. So I still enjoy it. But man, that

273
00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,640
Speaker 2: that this ending is it's a slog compared to the beginning,

274
00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,880
Speaker 2: because I'm like, this is just how you feel about.

275
00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,400
Speaker 1: Shit, yeah, which is very different than what you were

276
00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:30,720
Speaker 1: giving me.

277
00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,080
Speaker 2: A like you had data for other stuff, even stuff

278
00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,440
Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily know if I agree with you went

279
00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,120
Speaker 2: and found the data to be like it could be this,

280
00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,360
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, that's okay. This ship is just

281
00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,440
Speaker 2: like and then I realized that the ancient Greeks had

282
00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,840
Speaker 2: this philosophy about this, and we need artists and warriors

283
00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,320
Speaker 2: and thinkers in this. I'm like, hmm, all right, I

284
00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,000
Speaker 2: don't think.

285
00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,880
Speaker 1: Now we're getting away from the statistics.

286
00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,280
Speaker 2: But anyway, still still a good book and I'm gonna

287
00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:02,240
Speaker 2: finish it soon and I'm just happy to be finishing

288
00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:02,840
Speaker 2: books again.

289
00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,680
Speaker 1: No problem. You might not answer this question, But what

290
00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,800
Speaker 1: is it that that that really grab your attention like

291
00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,200
Speaker 1: the first part of the book, like like like oh okay,

292
00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's stuff we talk about here all the time, man,

293
00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:23,720
Speaker 1: like tech oligarchs and how they've cozied up to politicians

294
00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:28,680
Speaker 1: and how it's impossible to really rain them in In many.

295
00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,400
Speaker 2: Cases it would take like a political will power that

296
00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:39,000
Speaker 2: our politicians don't seem to possess, uh, and the like

297
00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,480
Speaker 2: how much of their egos are built into it, like

298
00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:49,760
Speaker 2: obviously Eli Musk, Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, like a lot of

299
00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,800
Speaker 2: that stuff, but also how much power they've already accumulated

300
00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,640
Speaker 2: and how many things already run on them. And they're

301
00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:03,720
Speaker 2: extremely competitive and antagonistic approach to business. You know, it's

302
00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,800
Speaker 2: it's Facebook not being able to compete with Instagram so

303
00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,000
Speaker 2: they buy instagramp and being make it suck. You know,

304
00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,200
Speaker 2: it's a lot of companies, yeah, finding out you know,

305
00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,440
Speaker 2: how they have the ability to like switch elections and

306
00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,000
Speaker 2: there's UH to change elections and influence them. And there's

307
00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,240
Speaker 2: people that worked there that were whistleblowers and people that

308
00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,520
Speaker 2: work there that just got the whistle blown on them

309
00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,760
Speaker 2: where there's quotes of them saying that as much like

310
00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,840
Speaker 2: we can do this, we have done this. You know.

311
00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:39,600
Speaker 2: There's obviously things about mental health and and he cites

312
00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:46,480
Speaker 2: studies and phenomena like uh, suicidal ideation and and things

313
00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,560
Speaker 2: that where we think the internet could be helping where

314
00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,560
Speaker 2: it's turning out it could be harmful, Like like there's

315
00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,880
Speaker 2: like there was a thing where people had tourets and

316
00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:03,040
Speaker 2: they became like Touret's influencers. But then science like psychologists

317
00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,280
Speaker 2: and people that studied that were like, obviously you can't

318
00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,080
Speaker 2: diagnose or not diagnose somebody over the internet, but they

319
00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,960
Speaker 2: were able to. They were getting people who are having

320
00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,800
Speaker 2: like copycat turets, and they couldn't figure out why. It's

321
00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,560
Speaker 2: like people were just getting this out of know are

322
00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,479
Speaker 2: kids like young kids. It's like all these kids just

323
00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,560
Speaker 2: are getting tourets like they like the terrests is not

324
00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,520
Speaker 2: a uh, contagious disease. It's not that's not That's not

325
00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,680
Speaker 2: what this is. It's a condition. And it turned out

326
00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,359
Speaker 2: most of these kids were watching these influencers and once

327
00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,240
Speaker 2: they started like analyzing the numbers where they could be like, okay,

328
00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:46,320
Speaker 2: so this this this many kids came in with this

329
00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:51,120
Speaker 2: out sporadic turets and these kids all follow this Tourets influencer,

330
00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,880
Speaker 2: and even at Touret's influencer, they would look at them

331
00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,440
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, as they're blowing up more and more,

332
00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,320
Speaker 2: to Rets outburst are happy because you need the content

333
00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,280
Speaker 2: and your being encouraged. Maybe it's sub conscious, maybe it's conscious.

334
00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,840
Speaker 2: More than likely, I say subconscious, because this algorithm is encouraging.

335
00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,439
Speaker 2: Put the phone in your face, record. You can't record

336
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,399
Speaker 2: and not be like nobody was tuning in for you

337
00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,320
Speaker 2: to just talk normal stuff like that.

338
00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even have thought of. And so now you

339
00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,680
Speaker 1: have these parents taking their kids to the hospital or

340
00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,320
Speaker 1: a doctor and stuff going a what's wrong with my child?

341
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

342
00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:25,320
Speaker 1: Right?

343
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,199
Speaker 2: Even and like I said, some stuff, it's challenging, but

344
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,680
Speaker 2: I like reading challenging books. It's like, conflict is not abuse.

345
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,439
Speaker 2: It was a very challenging read the first time I

346
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,720
Speaker 2: read it, and then I was like, no, that book

347
00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,960
Speaker 2: was right, and I was I was being defensive about shit,

348
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,360
Speaker 2: and it was really Now that I go back, I'm

349
00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,359
Speaker 2: like that she was on point that older white lady

350
00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,159
Speaker 2: has been around, she's experiencing things. Let me not disregard

351
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,840
Speaker 2: her logic just because the people around me are so

352
00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,280
Speaker 2: disregarding of anything that you know, it goes again, it's

353
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,080
Speaker 2: whatever there they want to want to be true.

354
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. And sometimes whenever you hear things, or read things,

355
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:12,679
Speaker 1: or consume things that may actually be beneficial enlightened you.

356
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just might not be ready or whatever the

357
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,439
Speaker 1: case may be. And then then, like you said, you

358
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,640
Speaker 1: come to it at later time you'll be like okay,

359
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,320
Speaker 1: and it kind of hits a little differently. And so

360
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 1: I think everybody kind of, you know, goes through that.

361
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,359
Speaker 1: And a lot of times when you're in the middle

362
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,240
Speaker 1: of something, or you're going through something, or you not

363
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 1: trying funny the reality sometimes you don't want to change,

364
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,480
Speaker 1: so you don't want to hear it.

365
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 2: Well, I just I mean, I'm not I'm okay being challenged. Yeah,

366
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 2: and that was something that you know, at the time,

367
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 2: the value system around me was like all challenges are threats.

368
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,479
Speaker 2: When you have to get rid of any challenges around you,

369
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 2: everything should always be one hundred percent supportive of you

370
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 2: all the time. It's you know, I was talking to

371
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 2: my mom to day and it was like we were

372
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, this AI stuff, and I was like, yeah,

373
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:10,639
Speaker 2: it's kind of like I know, people who talk to

374
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 2: their AI talk to AI, not their AI. It's just AI.

375
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 2: It's chat GPT or something. It's got your information, but

376
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 2: they talk to it like a friend. You know. JJ

377
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 2: Reddick does this thing. We talked to it an hour

378
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 2: and a half every day. People doing that, And the

379
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 2: problem is, I don't believe it can truly challenge you

380
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 2: like a friend. You know, now, a friend is a human.

381
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 2: And yes, there are some yes people out there that

382
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 2: will just tell you yes, yes, no matter what you do,

383
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 2: but we all know that that's not really friendship. But

384
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: a friend hears you and they take you in. You know,

385
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 2: it's not your therapist, it's not. It's it's not really designed.

386
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:54,239
Speaker 2: It's designed to just persuade you or to sage your

387
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 2: fears or whatever that word is. Anyway, my point being

388
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 2: a lot of social media and life has turned into

389
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 2: that and it leaves people and he was breaking it

390
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: down from like a scientific standpoint, but it leads people

391
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: with this feeling of boredom constantly because you're not really

392
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 2: meeting your needs and it's just becoming a salt lick

393
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 2: where you just open the phone and you're licking the

394
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 2: salt and it's making you more thirsty, and you're licking

395
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: the salt to taste something and you're licking the next thing.

396
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: You know, you're just licking salt all day, right, And

397
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: so we're looking for something to fulfill us and that's

398
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 2: why this last fourth of the book, I mean it's

399
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: very Philly, you know, it's very touching Philly because it's

400
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: like I'm talking about what you can do to fulfill yourself.

401
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 2: He's a therapist now licensed therapists and like counselor for

402
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 2: people that have addiction and stuff. And even he's like,

403
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 2: therapy is not gonna be the answer. And he's like

404
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 2: everyone keeps saying therapy, but therapy is turning into and

405
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: I've said this on the show, but it's turning into

406
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: a paid friend. When people go on Twitter and tell

407
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: you that therapist said and it's some yes girl shit,

408
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: it's kind of like, ooh, I don't know that. That's

409
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: I don't know your like you putting me in your business.

410
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to be, but I don't know that

411
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 2: that's the goal of therapy. He's like a therapists goal

412
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: should be for you not to keep going all the

413
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: goddamn time, Like, unless you have some acute mental health issues.

414
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: The goal is not for us to be buddies. The

415
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: goal is to get you to a place where you're

416
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: self sufficient and you can handle the controversies and adversity

417
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: of life, and you can move on and step firmly

418
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 2: and know that life is going to challenge you, but

419
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna be okay, You're gonna make it. The goal

420
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: is not for you to come here every week and

421
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: cry and wine and be and for me to be like,

422
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: you know, the shoulder you cry on. I'm trying to

423
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 2: build you up into something. And so he's like, it's

424
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: hard because therapists are not incentivized to do that. How

425
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 2: do they make money. They don't make money by healing

426
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: you and then you don't come back or you know,

427
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 2: make building you up enough that you stop. They make

428
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 2: money by you coming back, and so you know. So

429
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: he was like, group therapy or group like work to him,

430
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: is better, but what does group work really mean? He's

431
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: like friends, people you can talk to in person, people

432
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: you can depend on. He's like, I've seen more things

433
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: solved by people make building a group of real friends

434
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: than I have with me talking to them every week

435
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: in my office. Because he's like, you can go to

436
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: your friends and share things and get solutions to thing

437
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: or just vent or whatever, and they're gonna give you

438
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: real feedback and you're gonna make real connection. And there's

439
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: something in us that actually needs that. It's not just transactional.

440
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 2: You can't get it from a dopamine here, you can't

441
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: get it from a retweet or like, you actually gonna

442
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: need some people that exist more than virtually for you

443
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: in some way, even if it's phone calls or whatever.

444
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 2: But they're not a machine and they're not someone that

445
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: just lives in an app. They're an actual human being

446
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 2: that you think about and know in the three dimensional way.

447
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: Stuff like that.

448
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it's those things are very valid, and they

449
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: tied to the beginning of the book. So that's why

450
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not saying I'm gonna finish the book,

451
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying the end is bad. I'm saying,

452
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 2: like it's more nebulous than the beginning.

453
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: It kind of veers off and to biggyback on what

454
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: you were saying. Something that I've just kind of just

455
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: learned over life is and also because I'm an extrot too,

456
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: but just sitting and like talking to people that I'm

457
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: like really really close to, and everybody needs a place

458
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: where they can be bare, and I've realized a lot

459
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: of people that don't have that, they don't have a

460
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: place where they can be bare. And be safe for

461
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people. And the reason why I'm saying

462
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: that is because nowadays everything is recorded, everything's online. Everybody

463
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: got a camera, everybody's watching, everybody's looking at everybody's recording.

464
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: You have to watch what you say, watch what you do,

465
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: watch how you act, watch how you behave You have

466
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: to say the right words. And a lot of this

467
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: shit is literally driving people fucking insane. They don't have

468
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: a place, a space where or a friend, sometimes a

469
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 1: real live not on Internet, like a real live I

470
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: can fucking talk to you friend that you can sit

471
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: down and be like, hey, girl, blah blah blah blah

472
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and that person

473
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 1: listening go okay, girl, but you was wrong, and you

474
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: know you're wrong, and you go okay, And then y'all

475
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: can kind of talk and hash through it all. They

476
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: can say, well, have you looked at it this way?

477
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: Have you looked at it that way? Like you say,

478
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: AI doesn't have real life experience. A I ain't been

479
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: through shit. A I ain't cried. I am been sad

480
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: and i'd be depressed, and I ain't been angry. It

481
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: has not gone through the range of emotions. AI doesn't age,

482
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't mature.

483
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: AI is just one example, though, Like even your like

484
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: transactional nature of like say a tick to where I'm

485
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: on screen talking and then people are listening to me

486
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: and they reply and it's all just content. Even that.

487
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: You know, there's people that swear they think that stuff

488
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: is making them better and it's not. I don't think.

489
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: I think it's all making us worse, you know, and

490
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: and the and the thing. You know, I'm not trying

491
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 2: to be shady, but this this is y'all. People that

492
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: listen to show no. But it's like when I talked

493
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: about TikTok and then suddenly got letters defending TikTok, and

494
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: I was like, and that's the fucking point, right.

495
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: We talked about all the sights, but yeah, that one.

496
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: That one.

497
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: When I talk about Facebook, nobody wants to write in

498
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 2: but Twitter. But now I'm talking about your drug of choice.

499
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: You know.

500
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: It's like if I get up here and I say

501
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: crack is bad, everybody's like, well, I don't do crack.

502
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: But if I get up here and I'll say, like, well,

503
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 2: you know, alcohol can be bad for you too, It's

504
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: like whoa, whoa, What the fuck you so I can't

505
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 2: have a drink? Hey, I'm not telling you what to do.

506
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: I'm telling you this shit is so insidious it tentacles

507
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: itself into our brains because it's getting to our core,

508
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: like our id. It's getting it's not it's not just

509
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: touching on like the overt shit is subconscious shit too.

510
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: And I'm not holding myself above people. I'm saying it's impossible,

511
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: literally to avoid it.

512
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: Yes, me too, I am somebody that's in the trap

513
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: of something.

514
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yes. I try to point out those things, how

515
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: algorithms dictate certain things, and how they've gotten so specific

516
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: from the different like basically experiences they've been running on

517
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: our brain. It's gotten so specific that my algorithm is

518
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: catered solely to me in a way that makes my

519
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: experience on the internet different from every other person's experience.

520
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: We can't really connect and bond over things all the

521
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: time because when you bring something up to somebody, we're

522
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: no longer living in a world where you have four

523
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: TV channels and everybody had them. We're living in a

524
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: world where there's as many TV channels as our people.

525
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: And so when I tune in I'm you know, I'm

526
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: watching stuff and I have to question what I'm watching.

527
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 2: You know, I think all of us should be questioning

528
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: these things. I don't think any of us should take

529
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: it at face value. When you log onto something and

530
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: the first thing you see and go, that's what everybody's seeing,

531
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: and that's what everybody's talking about. I think you should go.

532
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: I wonder. I'm not telling you it's not real, but

533
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: you should go. I wonder, like, is this uh, is

534
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: this story the biggest thing that's happening or is this

535
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: the thing that they know? I'll stop scrolling on.

536
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: True and there is a difference between the two. But

537
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: now the lines are so blurred and people think that

538
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: their reality online is the only reality, which is not

539
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: healthy because you know, you have some people that's so fun,

540
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: a rabbit hole on left and right. It's almost like

541
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: the other group don't exist, but it does.

542
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, like this quote, like I always say quotes from

543
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: my reading on Kendle, and this is one of the

544
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: early quotes. It's only on page five. Indeed, research shows

545
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: that empty, sedentary, addicting, isolating, and self loathing lifestyle created

546
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: by big tech drives depression and hopeless hopelessness. Yet the

547
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: more depressed and empty we feel, the more we're driven

548
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: to escape those feelings with more of the digital drug

549
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: that's driving the problem. To begin with a classic addiction

550
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: catch twenty two, around and a round we go, it's

551
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: big tech pockets to change every time we take a

552
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: spend around our digital escapism. Like I think, like I said, man,

553
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: I've probably highlighted so many of these things and read

554
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: so many of this, so much of the stuff because

555
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: I find it to be very true and affirming, and

556
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: like I said, a lot of it is where like

557
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: he'll he'll have back I'm not reading the whole book, y'all,

558
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: but he'll have backup to be like, and this study

559
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: did this or this. I talked to this expert about

560
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: this and whatnot. And yeah, I really am. I really

561
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: think it's a good book. And but yeah, it kind

562
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: of it's not what I thought it would be about. Specifically.

563
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: It starts off about social media and mental health, and

564
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: then it kind of turns into like who's running social media,

565
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: which has a lot to do with why it's fucked up,

566
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: and then it kind of turns into like what would

567
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: the solutions be to try to fix this? And that's

568
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: where I'm at right now. I'm enjoying this book a lot.

569
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 1: I thought I would just ask, because you know, I

570
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: was like, well, let me just ask, since you were

571
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: just talking about it in general.

572
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, no, I don't mind. Like I said, I

573
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: just didn't want to get I don't. I am very fascinated.

574
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if the artists want to hear me

575
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: talk about this for two hours and read every quote,

576
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: because I could read every fucking quote because I think

577
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: it's just that goddamn good of a topic. And I

578
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: will be reading more books about this because I really

579
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: want to see more than just my feelings on something,

580
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: more than my intuition. I like when people kind of

581
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: prove things, or at least and that's another problem with

582
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: the Internet and social media. It's so new ish that

583
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: some like even his solutions. I think part of the

584
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: reason that it's losing me a little bit is that

585
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: the solutions haven't been proven to work yet because we

586
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: haven't really had a chance to try him yet, right.

587
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: You know, like one of the things he talked about

588
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: near the end for Solutions was as an addiction counselor.

589
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: He was like, you know, people go to rehab, people

590
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: go to addiction counseling, and like the art, the findings

591
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: are somewhere between five percent at the lowest and twenty

592
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: percent at the highest. Are people that will take the

593
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: counseling or take leave rehab and not do drugs for

594
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: a year a year, not the rest of their life.

595
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: A year, Okay, So that's not a high rate of success. Now,

596
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: obviously it's addiction counseling and rehab. You don't get in

597
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: there unless you have some serious problems. But my point

598
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: is the therapy alone isn't breaking these people.

599
00:31:59,200 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: No, it need to be.

600
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: So he's when he's talking about the idea of groups

601
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: and friends and finding a purpose. He cites this one

602
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: story about this guy who was a former priest who

603
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: was dealing with like alcohol addiction. For like groups, he

604
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: was like helping out this group of men, and so

605
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: a lot of them were homeless all that stuff. So

606
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: he instead of just them doing like just group therapy,

607
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: he realized that they needed like a purpose. So he

608
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 2: set out a goal for them to build a ship,

609
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: and they were gonna build the ship and then sell

610
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: around the world on it. And he ended up dying

611
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: at like fifty one or something. But for that, I

612
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: think it took him twenty years maybe to build the

613
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: ship Wow. And this is reason like two thousand and

614
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: one they started in twenty twenty one they built the

615
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: ship WOW. And I don't remember the exact numbers, but

616
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: it was something like zero people relapsed because they were

617
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: all getting up every day to go fucking find a

618
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: way to build this ship. And they went from zero mini.

619
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 2: These weren't sailors, they had no expertise. Everything was we

620
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: got to find a way to learn to do that.

621
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: And they didn't have money, so they had to go

622
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: and like barter to get some supplies. They had to

623
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: reach out to different like manufacturers to be like, hey,

624
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: we need metal to help build a whole of the ship,

625
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: and there were you know, eventually somebody's like, yeah, we

626
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 2: can give you some of that, and so he was like,

627
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: you know, purpose and connection with real people helped break

628
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: that addiction. Now we're not talking about drugs in the

629
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: sense of alcohol, but the Internet, social media, these apps,

630
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: they're type of drugs. And so how do you get

631
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: how do you break yourself of like a YouTube hold

632
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: a TikTok addiction? And because we know that if you

633
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: stay on those apps long enough, you will spiral out.

634
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: It just is what it is. It's not and it's

635
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: not your fault. You're not weak.

636
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: It's that they are.

637
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: They know our brains because they have intimate details of

638
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: every from our eyes to and how they dilate and

639
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: when our fingers stops scrolling. Like, they have so many

640
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 2: details on our brain. You can't beat it by yourself.

641
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: But and I but but as a group, you basically

642
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: kind of substitute out that interaction for people. You substitute

643
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: out the lack of purpose for purpose And so a

644
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: lot of this last man, if I'm talking about it now,

645
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm kind of turning around on this last part of

646
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: the book. I'm singing this vision now. I'm glad you

647
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,959
Speaker 2: asked me these questions. So a lot of the last

648
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: part of the book is like how you're gonna find

649
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: your purpose? What are you?

650
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: What are you?

651
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: He has these three different archetypes like the warrior, the

652
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: the philosopher, and the artists, And not that you have

653
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: to be one, but he's like, how do you find

654
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: your purpose on the earth in your life? Of what

655
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna do with that stuff? Like how are you

656
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: gonna make yourself more of a warrior. And it doesn't

657
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: mean physically fighting people, but mentally whatever it is. Uh,

658
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: things that make you persevere, things that make you be

659
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: able to go through stressful times and come out on

660
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 2: the other side. How are you gonna make yourself more

661
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: of that every day? How you're gonna work on that?

662
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: You have to know how you're gonna make yourself more thoughtful? Yeah,

663
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: you know philosophers. It doesn't mean you have to accept

664
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: their philosophy is the But how what do you think about?

665
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: What do you muse on art? Artistry? What are you creating?

666
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: What?

667
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: Like? Creating something is the opposite of consuming a right,

668
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: So you sit there all day and you consume content,

669
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: but what are you putting out into this earth? You know?

670
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 2: It's why I hate AI because people I know people, man,

671
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: I know, we even have a listen. I'm sorry, don't

672
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: get offended, but I know people that are like, I'm

673
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: gonna replace creativity with AI. AI is my new creativity,

674
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, I don't think it will be

675
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 2: a I goes and steals ship that people have already done. Yeah,

676
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: but just also like there's a value to learning to draw.

677
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: Yes, it is there's a.

678
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: Value to learning to write and not just telling it

679
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: to here's my idea, you write it. You know, there's

680
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: a value to that. And it's tough, right. It's me

681
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: on the medicine ball doing that fucking plant that sucked,

682
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: and I tell I go to my trainer, like, am

683
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: I doing it right? She's like yeah. I was like, okay,

684
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: is this like a different form. She's like, no, You're

685
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: doing it exactly right. You just need to hold it

686
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: for a minute. And I'm like, okay, She's like, yeah,

687
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: it's just tough. It's just gonna be tough. You might

688
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 2: not be able to do it four minute right away.

689
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: You may have to put one knee down and then

690
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: bring the other knee up, and but the goal, the

691
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: goal is to do it a minute, and you will

692
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: be able to do it for a full minute at

693
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: some point. But you got to start where you can

694
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: to get to where you can. And a lot of

695
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: this stuff with artificial diligence, with social media, with the internet,

696
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: is skipping all these steps that make it that you yourself.

697
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also we also live in the world of perfection,

698
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna be perfect at things. You know, and

699
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: say when you're go on line and people cooking and

700
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: doing all this. Like you said, it's artistry stuff. Everybody

701
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: thinks I gotta be perfect. And also the thing is

702
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: it's very hard to get people to understand hobbies and everything.

703
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: Ain't got to be a hustled Sometimes you just bad

704
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: at the shit, but it's something that you love and enjoy.

705
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: I haven't done this in a very long time, but

706
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: I remember when I was in college, I used to

707
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: sew and that before I got a sewing machine, I

708
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: used to hand so like so by hand. And the

709
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: thing that I really loved about it for the first

710
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: time ever because I really didn't really get into creativity

711
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but for the first time ever, I

712
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: realized that I could take something with my own hands

713
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: and created. It wasn't the best thing ever, but it

714
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: was something that I did and accomplish. And I also

715
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: loved the fact that it was a clean slate with

716
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: no boundaries, which means that I could literally do whatever

717
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to do. How we have on my mind

718
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: went where I flowed, and it's for me at that

719
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: period of time, it was a freedom to that and

720
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: I would spend hours when I was in college just

721
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: sewing and sewing and stitching and all that stuff. And

722
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: I realized, like you saying, it wasn't nothing, I was

723
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: trying to get coins off of it wasn't nothing. I

724
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: was trying to float and show everybody it wouldn't hustle.

725
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: I was like, this is something I just enjoyed to do,

726
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: just for the flat enjoyment of it, and a lot

727
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: of people the time people would be spent doing those things,

728
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: they spend that.

729
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: Time on and it's an escape in a way, but

730
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: it's also a productive escape, yes, and it's not an

731
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: escape into addiction, which is kind of what a lot

732
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: of our social media has would come about addiction. It's

733
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: like I'm escaping to addiction to so I can not

734
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: think about my life. I'll read one last part. It's

735
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: a little bit long, but it kind of refers it

736
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: as it's about this study that this Canadian professor did

737
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: on these rats. Canadian professor and researcher, doctor Bruce Alexander

738
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: proved in the nineteen seventies via his legendary rat park experiments,

739
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 2: that is really an unbearable reality or environment that drives addiction,

740
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: not necessarily the addictive substance in those early skinner cage

741
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 2: experiments of the nineteen fifties, researchers assumed that they had

742
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: proved the power of an addicting drug that it was

743
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: so tempting and addicting the foolish rat would choose a

744
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: drug over food and overdose rather quickly. But doctor Alexander

745
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: had the idea that perhaps those experiments weren't measuring the

746
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: addictiveness of the drug. Instead, they were measuring the effect

747
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 2: of being isolated and trapped. That being isolated and being

748
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: trapped has on a social creature, as rats and humans

749
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: both are. To test this hypothesis, he devised the rat

750
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: park a veritable rat utopia, or rats were free to

751
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: rome and frolic and socialized with other rats. They had

752
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: wheels to play with and exercise in, cheese to eat,

753
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: partners to have sex with, and they also had free

754
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: and unfettered access to drug water, the same high octane

755
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: water that the rats and the control group, alaning the cages,

756
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: also had access to. Guess what happened. None of the

757
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: rats in the rat park became hooked on the drug water,

758
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: and none of them died. In fact, some sample the

759
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: drug water but didn't like it and avoided it thereafter,

760
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: who needs drug water, They had friends, open spaces to

761
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: play in. It was heaven on earth for rats. As

762
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 2: for the lonely rats trapped in the cages, they all

763
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: died from overdose. The critically important conclusion that doctor Andrew

764
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 2: drew was that escapist addiction resulted more from a toxic environment,

765
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: including isolation and lack of community, than from the substance itself,

766
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: and these conclusions also apply to human beings. According to

767
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: doctor Alexander, people do not have to be put in

768
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: cages to become addicted. But is there a sense in

769
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: which people who become addicted actually feel quote unquote caged. Indeed,

770
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: every addict that I've ever worked with has described in

771
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: some form of another their addiction as a cage or

772
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 2: a form of enslavement to an addictive substance or behavior.

773
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: And I wonder how much of the like on we

774
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: or boredom or restlessness or whatever people feel. The sadness

775
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: is from the idea of us feeling trapped in society

776
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: by things that are bigger than.

777
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: Us, like things that are much larger than us.

778
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: You know, stuff like you know, who's the president, the politics, stuff,

779
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: the hopelessness, of capitalism and consumerism, things becoming so much

780
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: more expensive, and so now you can't have kids, you

781
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: don't buy a house, you're not able to travel, and

782
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: so where can you go. You can travel to TikTok,

783
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: you can travel to Twitter, you can travel on Facebook

784
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: and Instagram, you can watch other people's travels on YouTube

785
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: like it. How much of our addiction to the escapism

786
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: is driven by the need to escape because life feels

787
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: like a cage and those are the things that you

788
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: don't really get to step back and think about because

789
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: life you're busy, you're doing whatever, or you're scrolling away.

790
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: So anyway, I love the book because it's has stuff

791
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: like that in it that's making me like, have the

792
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: word for I'm like, yes, I can see that, I

793
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: experienced that. I feel that. And personally, as a person

794
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: that feels like they've kind of come through a lot

795
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: via social media and kind of come out on the

796
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: other side to some extent, the things that he calls

797
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: solutions are things I did but didn't have a blueprint for.

798
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: So like me finding my friend group that I've talked

799
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: to all the time, almost on a daily basis, and

800
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: now at this point out it's a few groups of friends,

801
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: but and being like, like, so I'm not running to

802
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: tweet that thing as much as I'm going to the

803
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: chat like, hey, what y'all think about this? That that

804
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: that shit had it really did change me. Like I

805
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: don't have nearly the same amount anxiety I had, not

806
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: It's not even close. I I don't have. Uh. I

807
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: used to throw up sometimes, you know, I used to

808
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: throw up around certain people and being in certain groups

809
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: and stuff, and then it just stopped one day. I

810
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: Like the self esteem issues that I was dealing with,

811
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I'm dealing with them anymore. I'm

812
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: not saying I walk around like cock of the walk,

813
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 2: but I don't feel like I'm a piece of shit,

814
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So, like I do think

815
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: those things are relevant and real, and so reading this

816
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: kind of is like it's affirming in some ways, cause

817
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, yes, I was experiencing these things. I

818
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: was feeling these things, and I felt isolated amongst myself,

819
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't have felt calm self isolated. But but

820
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: going back and looking at the I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,

821
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: because what the fuck is running to Twitter with a

822
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: thought different than you know, like basically running to nobody

823
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 2: almost you know what I mean.

824
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, and it's one of the things I feel,

825
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: you like, over the years, I've made my own because

826
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: it's it's like a personal journey when it comes to

827
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: like social media and how you interact with it, because

828
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: it's it's very personalized, and I know for me, I've

829
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: made adjustments over the years, and like I know, for me,

830
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: periodically depend on what's going on, particularly on the weekends,

831
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll just chill and really don't go online like

832
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: I like, and sometimes shit happens, like really happens, and

833
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: Roger has to tell me. I'm like, oh okay, but

834
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: I don't have fumbo like I like. Like for me,

835
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm chilling, you know, if it's that important,

836
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: I'll get an update on the news alert app.

837
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just you know whatever. Like like I said,

838
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: we all escape different ways we're human. But it's just

839
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: interesting to think about these things and like what is

840
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: the cost of it, because like I don't know, because he

841
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: also does bring up shit that I would be like,

842
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, Like he talks about video

843
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: games and uh, stuff like that too, where I'm like

844
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: all right, buddy, Like unless unless you're playing video games

845
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: and it's making you want to kill somebody, don't. I don't,

846
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: like I take a motherfucker playing too many video games

847
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: over you know, a motherfucker that's on four chan or whatever.

848
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: But obviously the truth obviously there's some overlap and it

849
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: can be a gateway. But like he wasn't really proving

850
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: the science on the video games thing. There's certain things

851
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: where you just kind of questions but there's no definitive thing.

852
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: But but you can't, like you can't deny that there's

853
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: connections and correlations. But uh, you know, I don't know

854
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: if the causality is there for like in these video games,

855
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: Like it probably is there for a certain type of person,

856
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 2: but I don't know if it was like.

857
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: Particularly if you probably go on like message boards or

858
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: right once you get into line stuff.

859
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: Yes, once you get into that, it's even more than

860
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: just the video That is kind of what he gets into. Yeah,

861
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: but like the idea of like Karen played farm together

862
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 2: all weekend, well she's gonna be fucked up per anti social.

863
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 2: It's like I don't know if that's.

864
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: True, you know, me playing Hours of Paper Mario ain't

865
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna hurt nobody.

866
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, man, that was a lot longer than

867
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: I thought it would be. Jesus Christ, forty six minutes.

868
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: That was a great conversation. I enjoyed talking to you.

869
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: I know, I'm just really thinking about the capitalism of

870
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: where we're wanna put these fucking commercials, not the capitalism

871
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: y'all about to get some more med.

872
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if we're gonna be talking, hey, y'all.

873
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it right back. I got shipped to

874
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: do tonight, so I can't. I can't. Unfortunately, I can't

875
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: just be like I'll just keep going to make twelve segments.

876
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, everybody, It's just gonna be the middle. It's

877
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: one of these talking episodes. Were just the talk I

878
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: try to get to some Uh, you know, let's do

879
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: some segments real quick. Uh you know, let's do some

880
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: fucking with black people, come right back.

881
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 4: Walking with black people, walking with black people, walking with

882
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 4: black people, walking with black people.

883
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: All right, fucking with black people, go around the globe,

884
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: find different articles. Let you know how much we feel

885
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: fucked with h as people. Of course, it uh, you know,

886
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: can vary, uh, depending on you know, what's going on. Uh,

887
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: clearly I put this one in the wrong folder that

888
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: shouldn't even be there. That's on me, Open AI and

889
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 2: the King of State, and by King of State, I

890
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: mean the Estate of doctor Martin Luther King Jr. Okay,

891
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: have now they have partnered to protect doctor Martin Luther

892
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: King Junior's image and likeness.

893
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the AI shit. This is why I say

894
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: this bullshit. They just be doing any and everything.

895
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no guardrails to it. Really, and basically the

896
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: outrage that was generated by people using me the AI generator,

897
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: AI image generators and video generators to create MLK in

898
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: disrespectful depictions like he hears him smoking weed, here's him

899
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 2: at a wrestling event. So I guess enough people were

900
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: outraged that the people from open AI was like, Okay,

901
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: we're not gonna let people do that anymore.

902
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have allowed it in the first place.

903
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: A statement from open AI and the King Estate. The

904
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: Estate of Martin Luther King Junior, Inc. And Open AI

905
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: have worked together address how doctor Martin Luther King Junior's

906
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: likeness is represented in sower generations. Some users generated disrespectful

907
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: depictions of doctor King's image, so as King Ink's requests.

908
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: Open AI has paused generations depicting doctor King as it

909
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 2: strengthens guardrails for historical figures. While they are strong free

910
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: speech interests in depicting historical figures. Open a I believes

911
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 2: public figures and their family should ultimately have control over

912
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: how their likeness is likeness is used. Authorized representatives or

913
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: state owners can request that their likeness not be using

914
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: sore cameos. Open AI thanks doctor Bernice A. King for

915
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: reaching out on behalf of King Ink and John Hopebrian

916
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: and the AI Ethics Council for creating space for conversations

917
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: like this. I think this is interesting. One you're blinked, uh.

918
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: Huh cause you're geting ready get a lawsuit?

919
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 2: Well, you're blink meaning why Why wouldn't everyone be able

920
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: to challenge you using the Why why can't Taylor swift

921
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: like no, for no reason? Can you use me? Not

922
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: just the sex shit? Just I don't want AI recreating me? Period? Why?

923
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: Why somebody gotta reach Why is the default we get

924
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: to violate this until you reach out and go, hey,

925
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: we don't want James Earl Jones uh pulling his dick

926
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 2: out or whatever?

927
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: And the money got to talk because it ain't. It

928
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: ain't like a regular, regular person may have done this,

929
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: and y'all are like, fuck y'all.

930
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 2: And it's the estate of Martin Luther King Jr. Inc.

931
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 2: I mean, And it wasn't just Bernice King saying, hey,

932
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: can y'all stop? It was it's some actual incorporation ship.

933
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: And I'm telling y'all, the thing that's gonna suck up

934
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: AI is not gonna be people individually. It's gonna be

935
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: when these corporations that have lawyers and money start being like,

936
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: you can't use Disney shit and your AI. It's not

937
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: open source. It's not for everybody, copyright U.

938
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: It for your writers. Get the fuck out of here.

939
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 2: You using Mickey Mouse to do like a praise Hitler

940
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 2: salute or some ship. Now we gotta sue you. And

941
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: know they're not gonna want that smoke us. They don't

942
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: care about us as people. They can make me do

943
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: anything they want because they know I don't have the

944
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 2: resources to truly challenge them. I can just ask them

945
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: to stop and help enough people publicly get upset about it,

946
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: But more than likely it's nothing I'm gonna be able

947
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: to do. But like you, know MLK apparently is still

948
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: a dividing line for some people. They'll stand for that.

949
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, these images were I mean, to me, they

950
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: were they were very disrespectful. They were brutal. Yes, I

951
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 2: mean it's just him smoking weed. Yeah, it's just just

952
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: ship he wouldn't be doing.

953
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: Agreed.

954
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: It's like those fucking those those Martin Luther King Junior

955
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: parties flyers. Flyers come into life, coming to life. Ain't

956
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: that the truth? Uh? Anyway, zero two hundred care.

957
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: This gets a jais And the biggest reason why it gets,

958
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: say Jacaris, is because y'all you shouldn't have allowed it

959
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: in the first place. And it took them coming and

960
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: knocking at your dough, and it took somebody with big

961
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: money and big pockets and big lawyers for out to go, yeah,

962
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 1: we better stop this because we don't want to be sued.

963
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: And honestly, it's gonna take somebody else, like you say,

964
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift of Beyonce or somebody else, because a

965
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: defactor of somebody going don't use my image as.

966
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the default is to violate. Yes, like they're

967
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: not saying like, okay, we won't do this for anybody,

968
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: and only if if a state contacts us and says, hey,

969
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: it's okay, if you guys want to use Tupac's likeness

970
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: in these videos, then then we'll allow. Tupac is one

971
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 2: of the people you can do this with. No, they're

972
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 2: going the opposite way, So okay, it's not MLK. I'm

973
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: gonna do Malcolm X. Now, I gotta wait for his

974
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 2: estate to reach out to be like, no, we don't

975
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: want to see Malcolm X twerkuing or whatever the fuck

976
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: disrespectful shit people are using it for, and you know,

977
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: people are not generally good. So I'm gonna give it

978
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: a seventy five. I know it feels like your cars.

979
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: The seventy five is that Bernice King showed up. They

980
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 2: showed a pathway to stop this shit. They did, and

981
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: they bowed down and had to and they didn't try

982
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: to pull that like, hey, it's just free speech. They stopped.

983
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: I hope this starts something that you know, where they

984
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: we can stop all this shit. It's crazy.

985
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna take a big corporation, like you know,

986
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: because these are families that got money. But yeah, like

987
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: you say, it's gonna take one of the big.

988
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: Boys before well even that MLK inc that's that's a

989
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 2: big boy, you know what I mean. Like it wasn't

990
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: Bernice King. They wouldn't have done it for Bernice King,

991
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: just playing on their sympathies. But when that motherfucking cease

992
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: and desist letter come through and it got that LC

993
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 2: incorporated or whatever, all of a sudden, it means something.

994
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: It does. Uh.

995
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: The black unemployment rate is that it's higher since twenty

996
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: twenty one. Unemployment for Black Americans at its worst level

997
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: since the pandemic, with some economist seeing the latest results

998
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 2: as a signer worst things to come for the US economy.

999
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 2: The unemployment rate for Black America I said seven point

1000
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: five percent in August, according to seasonally adjusted data release

1001
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 2: Friday by the Bureau Labor Statistics, is highest since October

1002
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, more than double a rate scene for

1003
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: white workers. Some possible reasons include federal job cuts and

1004
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: terror fueled economy is uncertainty. Meanwhile, the unemployment rate for

1005
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: black men, at seven point one percent, was slightly higher

1006
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: than the six point seven percent unemployment rate scene for

1007
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: black women in August, though black women have seen bigger

1008
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 2: employment losses since the first quarter of this year. Black

1009
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: teams of both sexes between sixteen and nineteen had an

1010
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 2: unemployment rate of twenty four point eight percent. Here's the thing, one,

1011
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: A lot of us are filling the pitch that are black, right,

1012
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: Like we're black creators supported mostly by black people. We're

1013
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: filling the pitch. So I felt like this this was happening.

1014
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: I like, before I got them results, I was like,

1015
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: the results is in the motherfucking monthly subscription numbers. Nigga,

1016
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: I see it's not going great for everybody. But the

1017
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: other thing about it, too, is where the fuck is

1018
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: ice Cube? Where my platinum playing niggas? What Killer Mike?

1019
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: Where were at y'all? Where all my give Trump a chance?

1020
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle niggas at? Where my Democrats ain't never done

1021
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 2: nothing for black folks? People at? Where y'all at? Name

1022
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: one thing?

1023
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: Ain't Joe Biden done?

1024
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: Where y'all at?

1025
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: Oh?

1026
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: Now, you just won't be rappers and actors? Right? You

1027
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: don't want to be part of the you're not a politician.

1028
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: I was just saying, right, where the fuck are y'all at? Man?

1029
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: Where you standing at? What's the plan for the people? Now?

1030
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 2: Why you ain't meeting with Trump. How come you ain't

1031
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: call you in the office to negotiate a myth for

1032
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: all the niggas you said, you got the back of

1033
00:55:53,800 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: huh awfully fucking quiet right now. And I wouldn't even

1034
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: care that you're not saying shit if you hadn't to

1035
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: have said shit in the first place, because when it

1036
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 2: was about a road in a good will and making

1037
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: sure that we kneecap fucking Democrats, and you was right,

1038
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: friend center, Oh, they ain't never did nothing. Okay, okay,

1039
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: well what's the plan now? Because it sounded like the

1040
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: plan is for you to keep getting your bread and

1041
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: the rest of us. Oh, well you it just don't

1042
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 2: blame you. I ain't got nothing to do with you

1043
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, right well, I think sometimes black

1044
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: people should vote a prebadent. Okay, Charlomagne, where you at?

1045
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: He got a person Trump gotta personally insult you for

1046
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: you to put a foot on the scale and be like, okay,

1047
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: actually fucking crazy right now, man, that's so that's in

1048
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 2: your cars for me, because I can't. This is affecting

1049
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: all of us, as many of us said it would.

1050
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: Many of us said, you don't want to go down

1051
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 2: this rabbit hole because they're never going to reward you.

1052
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: And every article, every person that brings up like, well,

1053
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: you know, Trump won more black voters this time, and

1054
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: what did they get for it? Because whenever it's Democrats,

1055
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: y'all be quick to point out like, yeah, but what

1056
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: do you get for that? And when some of us

1057
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: take the time, shout Dereci Kobert. When you take the

1058
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: time go down the list of every program that actually

1059
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: helps and empowers black people, when you look at the appointments,

1060
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: when you look at the employment rates, when you look

1061
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: at who's in cabinet positions, when you look at judges,

1062
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: when you look down the line and you see how

1063
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: it does benefit black people. When Democrats are in office,

1064
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: they will tell you that it's nothing. And now that

1065
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: black people are actively being hurt by this administration's policies

1066
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: and their economy, I don't hear you saying shit, you

1067
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: ain't even holding them accountable. Remember the whole thing for

1068
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: many of these folded arms, I'm not really fucking with

1069
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: the Democrats people, was so what we're gonna do to

1070
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: whole people accountable when they in office? Well, Trump's in office,

1071
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: you hold him accountable. M you the man in action

1072
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: on the economy for black folks, I don't see it,

1073
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: you selfish bitches. So yeah, your cars for me.

1074
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, this right here is a your cars for me,

1075
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: because it's one of those things where you've seen it

1076
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: coming and you kind of knew that this was going

1077
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: to be an end result. Because black people, particularly black

1078
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: and brown people, but particularly black people, we are always

1079
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: the canary in the coal mine. A lot of people,

1080
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: particularly black and brown people of color of other groups,

1081
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: they think that black people are quote unquote special for

1082
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: some reason, and they don't understand why, and we're not special.

1083
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: We always know the target is always us and everybody

1084
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: else gonna get the ass whooping after we get the

1085
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: ass whooping, Like they don't understand that that's how it goes.

1086
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: And so to protect your shit, you need to protect

1087
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: our shit too. But they don't see it like that,

1088
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: Like they don't see it the target is us. Because

1089
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: once you kill the black people here in America, you

1090
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: kill resistance, you kill people the will of the people,

1091
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: because the will of the people is black people. A

1092
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: lot of the shit that has happened in this country

1093
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: and a lot of other black and brown people benefit

1094
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: from shit that black people have bled and dyed and

1095
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: stood up on like like for real, for real though,

1096
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: And it's just one of those things where we're all

1097
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: in this boat together, and black people is one of

1098
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: the few groups that actually understand that. That's why we're

1099
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: always reaching out. We're always doing coalitions. Regardless of who

1100
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: you are. We're like, hey, every hand, help, every dollar, help, y'all,

1101
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: let's do this together. We know we can't do it

1102
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: on our own. Even when shit gets passed, we can't

1103
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: do it on our own. You need people on the inside.

1104
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: You need people on the outside. You need people protesting,

1105
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: you need people teaching, You need people doing all types

1106
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: of things to get shit done so that our legacies

1107
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: will live on so we will have be here for generations.

1108
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: It just won't be fucking wiped out. Yes, it's a

1109
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: fucking your carriage because from people federal realize that the

1110
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: shit that's going on right now, you're gonna impact people

1111
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: for generations. Because you're talking about people that have had

1112
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: some of these government jobs for decades and years, and

1113
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: shit like there's a lot of money invested that all

1114
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden day that they don't have. You're gonna

1115
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: have people losing homes, losing a lot of shit because

1116
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: they just decided, oh, we want to fucking just random

1117
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: getting rid of seven hundred, eight hundred one thousand people.

1118
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, particularly when it first started with Elon Musk

1119
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: and the bullshit that he was doing, Like like that

1120
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: shit matters.

1121
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: What happened to the black jobs? What happened though, what

1122
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: do you got to lose? Remember, I know black people

1123
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: that failed for that. That was like, oh, they gonna

1124
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: get rid of the immigrants and then the some something

1125
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: black jobs. Magically, highest unemployment since twenty twenty one, lowest

1126
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: home ownership, Like where y'all at?

1127
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, is very very It's very frustrating because Black

1128
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: people in America are the blueprint for a lot of

1129
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: protests now not only hear in our country, but around

1130
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: the world. People mimic the shit that we did in

1131
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: other countries. You'll know the foundation of the things that

1132
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: we have done. And so it's very frustrating, and my

1133
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: heart goes out to people that cannot work, My heart

1134
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: goes out to people that have lost their jobs. And

1135
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: the thing is, like you say, it affects black people more,

1136
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: and particularly black women because we a lot of times,

1137
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: we're the highest educated group.

1138
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: They're trying to strip the rest of the VRA Act

1139
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 2: Voting Rights Act, they're trying to strip the rest of

1140
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,479
Speaker 2: the VR Like, where are y'all at, man, y'all had said,

1141
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: y'all cared about us, y'all are quiet as fucking church

1142
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: minds right now? Right, your voice don't mean nothing, now,

1143
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: you just I'm just an entertainer. Now, wow, why would

1144
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: anyone listen to me? Right? But when it was time

1145
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: to talk about the election, you was popping up out

1146
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: of nowhere.

1147
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were beating your chest and you had a voice.

1148
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: And the median, this median black household income fell three

1149
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: point three percent last year. That's already thirty six thousand

1150
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: dollars less than that of a white household. With what

1151
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: the fuck? And we're the first meaning, you're right, we

1152
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: catch flu, they catch a cold. But it's coming, yes,

1153
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: flu coming for y'all lass too. Yes.

1154
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: And also the thing about it is a lot of

1155
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: the white people are the last to be impacted by it.

1156
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: So when shit started happening, and the economy is affected

1157
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: and the food, like, everybody's feeling certain things, but for

1158
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: a lot of them, they're going to feel it last.

1159
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: And so when people are telling them, he y'all storm

1160
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: coming to storm coming, it ain't good, They're gonna blow

1161
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: it off until it's at their front door, and by

1162
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: then everybody else is gone.

1163
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess there's an out add on to

1164
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: this instead of making it its own billet point, because

1165
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 2: I feel like this is just addition to it. The

1166
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: Department of Education cancels HBCU grants. Education Department pours three

1167
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars from minority seven programs, and

1168
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: where y'all at and where the Trump checks? Where the

1169
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 2: fuck y'all at?

1170
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: Dog?

1171
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: It's mad quiet. This not new news. This happened in

1172
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: September that I'm reading this right now. Just been a

1173
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: while since we did this segment. They've had over a

1174
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: month to say something, to speak up on our behalf,

1175
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: to hold Trump accountable, to use all their inrolls personally

1176
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: to say something. The black coons that surround him should

1177
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 2: have been out here speaking, saying speaking up for us.

1178
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: Steven A. Smith, mister, you gotta be nice to Trump

1179
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: so he'll give you something. He could have advocated for

1180
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 2: black folks on point instead of scolding black people. Nah,

1181
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 2: it's crazy and I'm not gonna let them gas like

1182
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: me honer, this shit like this is crazy that y'all

1183
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 2: was on this side, or at least shitting on the

1184
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: side that would have preserved these things. And now you

1185
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: ain't got nothing, no scolding, no judgment, no outrage, your

1186
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 2: no voice. You're still trying to find some way to

1187
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 2: talk shit about Kamala Harris and Jasmine Crockett or something

1188
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: as opposed to what's happening to all of us right now,

1189
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: because your pockets straight.

1190
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also, and I will always stand behind this.

1191
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: When Trump first got elected and them HBCU presidents had

1192
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: to go up there and motherfucker's lost their goddamn minds.

1193
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: And now I was like, hey, dog, they have to

1194
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: do this for the longevity of HBCUs. They can't not

1195
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: go up there because he's still got damn petty and

1196
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: they know it.

1197
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 2: Snip dogg dancing for these niggas. I'm sorry, I know

1198
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: they ain't got nothing to do what you're just saying.

1199
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: No problem, but but but but but but but it's

1200
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: frustrating though. It's very frustrating though, because also the thing

1201
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: is not only uh this isn't and I will say

1202
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: this is an attack on black and brown people, but not.

1203
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: But I'm black, So I'm specifically talking about my group

1204
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: because they want us to not be able to get

1205
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: higher education, They want us to have to take lower

1206
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: pay wage jobs and ship like that, Like this is

1207
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: the whole purpose. And and like I said, the purpose

1208
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: is slavery and and and and and the thing is

1209
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: what I've realized. When people are higher educated, that means

1210
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: they have more free time. That means they can do

1211
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: things that people who have to work too and through

1212
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: jobs can't. All of a sudden, you have the time

1213
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: to go out and protest. All of a sudden, you

1214
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: have the time to go to the school board, in

1215
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: the council meetings and all that type of shit. And

1216
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: so it's one of those things where if they can

1217
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: keep us out of school and keep us uneducated and

1218
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: keep us out of this place, all of a sudden,

1219
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: our wealth just dwindles down than it already has.

1220
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely right, You're absolutely right.

1221
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: And that's been the target the whole time.

1222
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: Also though they hate us, Yes, so there's that part

1223
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: of it too. They want to see us suffer. They

1224
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: like that we're frustrated, Like they hate us, so they'll

1225
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: they they they want us to not be able to vote,

1226
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: they want us to not be employed.

1227
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah they they before.

1228
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the major things you're bringing up will come

1229
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: to bear if those condition factors are met. But also

1230
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 2: they just hate us. They even if that wasn't going

1231
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: to happen, they like, even if they're not thinking of

1232
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: it as forty years from now black people want They're like,

1233
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: we don't ever want black people to have anything. We

1234
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: don't value them as human beings.

1235
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: No, we never, We never have. We've always been upset

1236
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: since they've been free, and we will never let it go.

1237
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I just can't help but think about how

1238
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: there were people that just felt like this last election

1239
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 2: was some like some dods you lose them. And I

1240
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: was like, no, it's not this one different. I'm like,

1241
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell y'all, but just like

1242
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 2: I guess you. And the thing that bothered me is

1243
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: that I know in those moments, those people were judging me.

1244
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 2: They think I was tripping, and I'm you know, I

1245
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: feel like, uh, I feel like uh Michael from Star

1246
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 2: Trek uh the Last Star Trek God, why can Michael

1247
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 2: Burnham from Star Trek. It's not Discovery. What the fuck

1248
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: was the last one? What's it Discovery? Anyway? But she

1249
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: was like, I'm trying to save you. That's how I

1250
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: felt they're the last election, was like, y'all are fucking

1251
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: fighting me. I'm trying to save yo ass. I'm telling

1252
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: you this shit means something more. And just like, oh,

1253
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 2: she's a shitty candidate, you're stupid. If you're falling for that, yes,

1254
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: you are the out. This is gonna be about more

1255
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: than just oh well, you think there is a limit

1256
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 2: to how bad shit can get, And I'm telling you

1257
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: there really is not. The guardrails are not guarding, right,

1258
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: they're just railing us. Right.

1259
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: The things that I designed to protect you will no

1260
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: longer protect you. What are you going to do?

1261
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 2: All right? I'll try to end it on something funnier better. Uh,

1262
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's just a little bit. I guess the

1263
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 2: race and I wrap this thing up. Like I said,

1264
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 2: I have to go, guys. It's hard to guess the race.

1265
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 2: It's time to race, it's time to catch the race.

1266
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 2: It's time to guess the race. The first couple of

1267
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:04,919
Speaker 2: commercial breaks, they're gonna be like, what what's happening. Let's see,

1268
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 2: I'll go with this one. Spirit Halloween security guard kills

1269
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: man accused of stealing items worse less than ninety dollars. Oh,

1270
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 2: it's all employee of a month, going above and beyond

1271
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 2: to protect Spirit Halloween, miss the Halloween family's heirlooms.

1272
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: With chat, They're gonna have a lot of empty buildings

1273
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: they're gonna be popping up in because it's a bunch

1274
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: of places.

1275
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,919
Speaker 2: The store is temporary, but the death penalty is permanent.

1276
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 2: A store known for promoting fun of entertainment suddenly descending

1277
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: the cast when a man expected of the shop lifting

1278
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: was killed by the store security guard. Host Josiah Armio,

1279
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 2: twenty five, has been charged with second degree murder in

1280
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 2: the death of Chase Bell Tromo, forty one. On Thursday

1281
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: around five pm. Bell trump I was in Spirit Halloween

1282
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 2: in New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico. The shop security guard

1283
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 2: Ourmeo was keeping watch. Bell Tromo is said to have

1284
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: gathered multiple items from the store walked outside without paying

1285
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: for him. That's when our Meo sprung into action. The

1286
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 2: suspect tackled the man and pulled him into a steel

1287
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: pole before the man fell to the ground. The two

1288
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: began to fight. Ourmeo was on top and begins to

1289
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: strike Chase with what appears to be his fist. The

1290
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: two fight, during which Josiah, while on top of Chase

1291
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 2: Josiah's a guy that the security guard, draws his firearm,

1292
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 2: points it directly and Chase his face and begins to

1293
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 2: scream at him. At one point, bel Tromo managed to

1294
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 2: wrestle free and stand up before Ourmeo threw him back

1295
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 2: on the ground. Don't f and move, don't f and move,

1296
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 2: you don't move, our Meo reportedly screened at bell Tromo,

1297
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: I'll fucking shoot you. The suspected shoplifter does not comply,

1298
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 2: attempts to get up and run away, but he didn't.

1299
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 2: The complaining states, but he did not hit him at

1300
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: this time, and at no point was but Traumo believed

1301
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: to have been the possession of a weapon. Our Meo

1302
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: is said to have then hosted his gun, pulled out

1303
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 2: pepper spray, spraying it within inches of the man's face.

1304
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 2: As beal Traumo rolled on his back. Ourmeo drew his

1305
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 2: fire arm again and he began to scream again. Do

1306
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 2: not move or he would shoot him, all while holding

1307
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,560
Speaker 2: the gun to chase his face. The man continued to

1308
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: fight on the ground and beal Traumo managed to get

1309
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 2: on top of our meal, appearing to hit him. So

1310
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 2: now he's losing the fight, and that's when he got shot.

1311
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 2: With the shot rang out, followed by another, with a

1312
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 2: final shot seen raising the back of Chase his shirt.

1313
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 2: Beal Traumo was shot in the left upward area of

1314
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 2: his torso as well as the left buttocks. He led

1315
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: us accumb to his injuries and died. Following the three

1316
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 2: gun shots, josiahs heard screaming on his radio that shots

1317
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 2: were fired and he needed help. H you're not a cop,

1318
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 2: You're a first of all, a security guard, saying shots fired.

1319
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: I don't even who answers the other side of that

1320
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 2: walkie talkie.

1321
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I feel like that the other

1322
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: no security people that they got batons going, what is

1323
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: we gonna do?

1324
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: Feel like Top Flight Security is not prepared for this

1325
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 2: situation at all.

1326
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: What you're gonna now? They got the down down one one.

1327
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you're not supposed to be doing cop stuff

1328
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 2: for real. You're supposed to just have a flashlight or

1329
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: something in a stuner. I wouldn't even know what to do.

1330
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a manager, and motherfucking Spirit Halloween and

1331
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: walkie talking Come on, like, officer down, what I know

1332
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 2: what you're.

1333
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: Gonna be going in fourteen? In seven days? What are

1334
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: we doing?

1335
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: I got a cold twenty seven? What does that even mean?

1336
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: I just suspect that man shots fired? Yeah, I don't man,

1337
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: you need to call not pick your regular phone up,

1338
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: call down one.

1339
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: What you calling us?

1340
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: Y'all? Get the fuck off this walkie talkie. Implicate me

1341
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: in some bullshit?

1342
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 1: Right?

1343
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: The costs of the items stolen were intended to be

1344
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 2: stolen were less than ninety dollars. All right, car had

1345
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 2: all that. Guess the race of Joset Josiah our Mijo Leat,

1346
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 2: you know, just checked the chat room, see what they believe.

1347
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 2: El Pablo Blato Latina like all Blart, Oh that's good,

1348
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 2: that's good. L Casper the Ghostly Guard Latino, Latin homie

1349
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 2: got rejected from ICE's Guarden, Spirit Halloween, Spicy White and Latino.

1350
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: The correct answer is I think everyone went Latino except

1351
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: for someone said spicy White. The correct answer is Latino,

1352
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: and someone said spicy white. Yeah, that's him, man. I

1353
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 2: guess now it's the Holy Spirit Halloween going to that

1354
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 2: great beyond.

1355
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

1356
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: I guess God needed a shoplift in heaven. All right,

1357
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 2: let's go to the one. Karen's one for one so far.

1358
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 2: I let's see what else she got. A man trying

1359
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 2: to hawk a rolex shoots a woman while attempting to

1360
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 2: show off a gun. A lot of stuff happening in

1361
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: this crime. Uh. A Florida man who was drinking champagne

1362
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: and conversing with friends in his Miami Beach condo ended

1363
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: up shooting one and then while attempting to show off

1364
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: a Rolex and a pistol he had in his possession.

1365
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: Oh.

1366
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:39,480
Speaker 2: Leonardo and Mescua fifty two is charged with culpable negligence

1367
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 2: and tampering with evidence in connection with the summer shooting incident.

1368
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: Video obtained this week by local Fox affiliate WSVN allegedly

1369
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 2: shows at Mescua trying to hawk his luxury rolex watching

1370
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 2: watching the early morning hours of July nineteenth, after meeting

1371
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: up with the female victim at a local bar that

1372
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 2: she co owns in a Miami Beach and in Miami

1373
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: Beach and eating dinner with her. So this was like

1374
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 2: a date or something. I don't know, maybe they are friends,

1375
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 2: because I feel like on a date, trying to sell

1376
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: your rolex is not given. It's not given. What you

1377
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: think is given. As the night continued, the two of

1378
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 2: them met up with one of the victim's friends and

1379
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 2: the pala's husband at a Mesco condo inside Okay, so

1380
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 2: there's friends, I guess a Mescuo's condo inside Miridor Apartments

1381
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: at three am. After three am, shit, police say in

1382
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: a criminal complaint with a view by the Law and Crime.

1383
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 2: On Wednesday, a Mescua, who was allegedly intoxicated, was talking

1384
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 2: about selling the watch, which he decided to show off

1385
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: a pistol he owns as well. What see now, I

1386
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 2: feel like you loving me, like you bet about his watch?

1387
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: Right.

1388
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: It's like the time me and my brother was walking

1389
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 2: to Wendy's behind McDonald's and this dude, this homeless man

1390
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: came out of the woods, out of like out of

1391
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: some out of the bushes and was like, hey, you boys,

1392
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 2: I want to buy a knife. And I'm like, is

1393
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: this nigga robbing us? I don't know. What like you

1394
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: asking little kids if they want to buy a knife.

1395
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 2: It's a good knife. What the fuck I'm gonna do

1396
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: with it? Sir? I'm Dennis the minute. Are you just

1397
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: robbing us of our mcmeal money? Because just take the money.

1398
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm take the money. I have to go back and

1399
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: tell grandma money got stolen.

1400
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: And my brother, we was little at the time. My

1401
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: brother was considering it, like, well how much.

1402
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: I was like, no, nigga, give you. We ain't doing

1403
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: you know how much?

1404
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 2: Man stab us back? And my mom gonna be like,

1405
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,759
Speaker 2: I know, I'm not shouldn't let y'all walk to McDonald

1406
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 2: right anyway?

1407
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 3: Uh?

1408
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was a toxkter. I know what that

1409
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: watch is. A man could be heard saying on the video,

1410
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 2: if it's real, one hundred and fifty minimum. Another man

1411
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:52,879
Speaker 2: allegedly says, one hundred and fifty dollars. It's a Rolex,

1412
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: Ain't it like one hundred and fifty K? I don't know.

1413
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't hope you mean it's a K behind that? Yeah,

1414
01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dots zero zero.

1415
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 2: The group was drinking champagne in the kitchen looking at

1416
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 2: the watch when Mscua said he had something cool to

1417
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 2: show him. Oh God. He went to his bedroom into

1418
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: the kitchen with what the guests described as a silver

1419
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 2: and black firearms. Suddenly, the firearm went off and the

1420
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 2: friend noticed the victim was shot. The friend left the

1421
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: apartment with her husband and the victim once they were

1422
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 2: away from the defendant and called the police. Cops say

1423
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 2: they have arrived just seen around seven thirty am. Oh well,

1424
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 2: take your time, and found m Obscure locked inside his

1425
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 2: condo refusing to come out. Miami Beach police officers knocked

1426
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 2: on his apartment door for thirty minutes because he come

1427
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 2: to the door. Then they had swat. They requested them

1428
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 2: to assist, and he had surrendered around eight oh five am.

1429
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 2: Investigator spoke to the female friend's husband about what happened.

1430
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 2: He said he very adamantly stated that it was very

1431
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 2: negligent and reckless of mmbscure to handle the firearm while

1432
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 2: being intoxicated. The husband took the firearm away from Escure

1433
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 2: and threw it toward the front door. The friend can

1434
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 2: be heard on the video obtained by WSPN describing what

1435
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 2: she remember seeing that night. Blood blood, blood, blood. He's

1436
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 2: scheduled go to trial October twenty third. Karen, guess the

1437
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: race of mister Leonardo and Masqua. I'm not going Karen's

1438
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: going white. Let's check the chat room see what they believe. Yeah,

1439
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 2: that's crazy, like you're already. First of all, no, I

1440
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: don't want to buy your Rolex. Second of all, a

1441
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 2: gun is something cool. I want to see something cool.

1442
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: Man.

1443
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 2: It was been drunken skunks, African, Cuban, b travel traveling, Cuban,

1444
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 2: pond shop, Latino, his Panic. The correct answer is Karen

1445
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 2: went with white. You got it wrong. He's a Spanic.

1446
01:18:55,439 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 2: Some of you got it right, most of you gotta right. Uh.

1447
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: I'll take that one because that was a lot of

1448
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: white ass crimes being locked up for thirty minutes. They

1449
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: got to go and get people. You're yeah, that was

1450
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: that was? That was a lot like I was like

1451
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: you you was floating, buddy, floating, Yeah, just just doing

1452
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 1: ship and the police are like, what be gonna do?

1453
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: Let's get the squad. Let's listen. Listen. I'm saying, fuck,

1454
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 1: just wrest them. What are we doing?

1455
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 2: Let's go to the bonus round? Was why I am racist?

1456
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 1: How can I be racist about everybody? Or an.

1457
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm playing the wrong version. Unto high Jumping speed Chucking

1458
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 2: three hundred all got time to replay it and play

1459
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 2: the right one. But and you did not earn that too.

1460
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: That was not the right version, no One. In one

1461
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 2: last story, an Alabama woman landed herself behind bars after

1462
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 2: she was accused of setting her ex boyfriend's house on fire,

1463
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 2: reportedly because he chose not to go to a Little

1464
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 2: Wayne concert with her.

1465
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: Damn, I mean it's more. Yeah, if you're gonna set

1466
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: the house on fire, you gotta.

1467
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 2: Be a little bit motiv For those asking yes this

1468
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 2: articles from twenty twenty five, I don't guess now. If

1469
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: you told me this happened in two thousand and four,

1470
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 2: then I might understand. Amy Beth Taylor, forty six. It's

1471
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 2: charge of first degree arson following an incident September twenty

1472
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,879
Speaker 2: fifth at her former boyfriend's home in Heartsell, Alabama. According

1473
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 2: to court documents obtained by The heart Cell inquiring a

1474
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 2: local news outlet, Morgan County Sheriff's deputies were called on

1475
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 2: Thursday responded to a fire of the residents on Peak Road.

1476
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: When they arrived, the firefighters were already at the scene,

1477
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 2: as well as several witnesses the police spoke to them.

1478
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 2: They said that Taylor was the ex girlfriend of the

1479
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: property owner and apparently she was I right. According to

1480
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 2: that affid David, Taylor arrived at the property that day

1481
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 2: and walked into a shed. She was all right due

1482
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 2: to the victim not going with her to a concert

1483
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: the day before. She didn't allegedly threaten to burn down

1484
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: the man's home or the shed. Then walked out of

1485
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: the shed. Not long after Taylor was seen leaving the shed,

1486
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 2: one of the witnesses told police that another woman living

1487
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 2: on the property called her, saying that her room was

1488
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,600
Speaker 2: filled with smoke. When the woman opened the door to

1489
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 2: her room, she found the rest of the house filled

1490
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: with smoke as well. She got out the house safely,

1491
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: called down one one. Police arrested Taylor the same day

1492
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 2: and booked her into the Morgan County Jail. She's in

1493
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: custody as a Wednesday. Her bella said it twenty thousand dollars.

1494
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: She was ordered not to have contact with the property

1495
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 2: on her or any witnesses. Yeah, I mean she had

1496
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 2: to find a hotel they staying in. She doesn't burnt

1497
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 2: shit down. During her court appearance, On Monday, Tayler Brooks,

1498
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: and investigator with Morgan County Sheriff's Office, testified that after

1499
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: Taylor waved her Miranda right, she provided a statement were

1500
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: she referred to the victim as her boyfriend. On nine

1501
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty five, my boyfriend and I was

1502
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 2: supposed to go to the Little Wayne concert in Huntsville.

1503
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: When I tried to call my boyfriend multiple times yesterday,

1504
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 2: he never answered the phone. I went to the concert

1505
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 2: with my cousin there, and after the concert, I went

1506
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: to my boyfriend's house around midnight. Books also stated that

1507
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 2: Taylor told the witnesses at the scene that she had

1508
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 2: been consuming alcoholic beverages and was upset. She frighten said

1509
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: in those words because her ex boyfriend did not go

1510
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 2: to a concert with her the night before. She also

1511
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 2: allegedly said she was going to catch the shed or

1512
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 2: his house on fire. She's statement continue, I've told my

1513
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 2: boyfriend in the past I would burn his house down

1514
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: a joking manner. I didn't catch my boyfriend's house on fire.

1515
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: Taylor's what okay? Taylor's charged the first degree arson girl,

1516
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 2: You going to jail. She also faces three counts of

1517
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: chemical endangement to a child for allegedly exposing three of

1518
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: her six children to methanphetamine.

1519
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: What god damn, what does that come from? That last sentence?

1520
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 1: Don't know what we're doing? Drugs? Dude?

1521
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 2: Can we get a foreshadow? And was myth in the

1522
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 2: house sudden? The ship and the chemicals from the metal car?

1523
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: What was happening? And when did myth?

1524
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 2: How did myth get into it?

1525
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: What myth was like?

1526
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 2: Girl, I'm here right, that's that's insane. That's the myth.

1527
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 1: The meloe line. I don't mind my business?

1528
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 2: Right? What is wrong with people?

1529
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: Oh?

1530
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: Man? Has anybody got a problem with telling good old

1531
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 2: fashioned regular drugs? You should tell me that, all right? Karen,

1532
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: guess the race of Amy Beth Taylor?

1533
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: Amy Beth Taylor, that's her name. Oh, that's one hundred

1534
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: percent white, all right?

1535
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 2: Karen's going with white checked the chat room, Whiz night,

1536
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 2: Weizyana girl, white girl, white white girls, white girls, Jamaican

1537
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: trinidaddy in black. Tyler Perry wrote these and white a

1538
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: method to her madness, still raising the babies on mess

1539
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:03,799
Speaker 2: with three first names white?

1540
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: Correct?

1541
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, she did have three first names. Yeah.

1542
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about it. But yeah, it's like

1543
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 2: Amy Beth Taylor or some ship. Yeah that's three white

1544
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 2: girl names, three of the whitest.

1545
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 1: That's I was like, I would be shocked if this

1546
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 1: is a black.

1547
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 2: Person and somebody said black. But I don't. They must

1548
01:24:29,280 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 2: have been joking, all right, sword ratchet This time an

1549
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,799
Speaker 2: Oregon man attacked a person with a sword before punching

1550
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 2: girlfriend in the face.

1551
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: Oh right.

1552
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 2: A cort Valist man was arrested Saturday after assaulting someone

1553
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 2: with a katana. According to the police, officers responded to

1554
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: a home after reports of assault. When they arrived, official

1555
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,799
Speaker 2: said they learned the twenty nine year old seth Amos

1556
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: Grace seth Amos Grace was at his home drinking with

1557
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 2: his girlfriend and the victim when Grace assaulted the victim

1558
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 2: with a katana, seriously injuring their leg. Police also said

1559
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 2: they learned that earlier that day, while walking to the

1560
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 2: store to buy more alcohol, he had punched his girlfriend

1561
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:39,839
Speaker 2: in the face, breaking her nose.

1562
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: Damn.

1563
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 2: Why does he even have access to a sword. This

1564
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 2: is a dangerous man, Yes it is. Grace was taking

1565
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: in the CUTSI is facing several charges couting first grid

1566
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: attend to the salut second a gris saw and lawful

1567
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 2: use of a weapon in fourth to grill saw. The

1568
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: victim and Grace's girlfriend were both taken to a nearby

1569
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: hospital for treatment. Get him off the streets and get

1570
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: take his sword with please. All Right, Tay, that's it

1571
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 2: for today's show. We'll be back throughout the week. No

1572
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 2: show Wednesday for sure, and yeah, until next time, I

1573
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: love you.