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Speaker 1: One of the most popular closure calls we've done in

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Speaker 1: the last year, you guys might remember, was about a

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Speaker 1: woman who reached out to us because she'd spent the

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Speaker 1: last six years of her life wondering what happened to

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Speaker 1: that great guy that I was dating after he vanished

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Speaker 1: from my life without a trace?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dated, I remember that.

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Speaker 1: This was the one case where it wasn't Jose, it

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Speaker 1: was a different guy. So we tracked him down and

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Speaker 1: we got some answers that completely shocked everyone crazy, and

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Speaker 1: it left us all wondering, actually, is there a chance

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Speaker 1: here for reconciliation. We're about to find out because we're

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Speaker 1: gonna play their original call and then right after we've

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Speaker 1: got a special closure call update. We're gonna find out.

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Speaker 1: Right after this. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning,

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Speaker 1: and this segment is just like an Indian Jones movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah why, but I like it. It's gonna be boulders

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Speaker 2: rolling out for us.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, doctor Jones afraid of snakes, but not afraid of

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Speaker 1: seeking out the truth. Meanwhile, Brooks, one of his horny

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Speaker 1: college students, just trying to get what an easy a Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't don't don't look like it. That's not true.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be that. I want to be

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Speaker 2: like La Croft tomb Raiders something. I know, it's a

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Speaker 2: different series. Come on, that's a hot outfit the movie.

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Speaker 1: The metaphors to the expert over here, Doctor Jones suck Meanwhile, Okay,

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Speaker 1: now I'm joking now because this is a little bit

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Speaker 1: more of a serious segment than we do. We help

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Speaker 1: if we help one of our listeners get some much

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Speaker 1: needed answers about a weird situation from their past, and

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Speaker 1: a woman named rock Sand reached out asking for help.

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Speaker 1: So Rock Sand, Welcome to the office of doctor Jones.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Are we going to be exploring to.

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Speaker 3: Whoa?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just meant like where she keeps her secrets?

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Speaker 1: I apologize for my co host over there, but you

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Speaker 1: know how the closure call works. First, we want to

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Speaker 1: hear a little bit about you, though, so tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit about yourself.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm thirty one and I actually listen every day

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Speaker 3: on Spotify. I just you guys are freaking amazing.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, it's so nice. Go on.

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Speaker 3: I actually never thought I would email you for help, though,

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Speaker 3: so I don't know, it's kind of embarrassing, but I

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Speaker 1: Okay, and who exactly are we helping you with?

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Speaker 3: His name is Ian and he is my ex boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: As soon as he said I, I knew it. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: just the just the way she said it, you know,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of longing, a little bit of disgust.

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Speaker 1: It tell us a little more about you and Ian.

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Speaker 3: So basically we are exes from a while back, about

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Speaker 3: six years ago. We first met.

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Speaker 2: Oh you first met six years yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: And we were basically I would say a month to

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Speaker 3: oh my god, he could be the one.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's such a big feeling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was okay, So I went to

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Speaker 3: I ring the buzzer and no one answers, and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: So I wait a few minutes, I text him no answer,

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Speaker 3: and then someone ends up coming out. So I, you know,

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Speaker 3: Like everything gone, kitchen stuff gone, pictures off the wall, gone,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, how are you feeling in that moment?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm like freaked out. I feel like

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Speaker 2: What's he pigment of my imagination? I freaking weird?

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Speaker 1: So did you have find out what happened with Ian?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: I ended up the next day after work going over there,

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Speaker 2: WHOA wowsive, Wait what are you thinking? Like? Did you

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, totally, So I reached out. So basically, we

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Speaker 2: What about his job? Did he quit his job too?

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Speaker 3: He worked from home for this like tech company? So

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So you're looking around getting no answers, and

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Speaker 1: then apparently in your email that you sent us, you

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Speaker 2: What exactly wait whow so wait this is like six

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Speaker 3: Six years later. My girlfriend texts me a picture and

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Speaker 3: And then I'm like, without a doubt, it's ian.

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Speaker 1: Oh how did you feel when you're looking at that photo?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god? First of all, like furious, like did

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Speaker 3: And now he's back? But mother, he is back, and

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Speaker 2: I mean, have you ever thought that, Like, you know,

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Speaker 2: Maybe he and you sounded super into it. Maybe he

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Speaker 2: other people break up. My mom used to move cities

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Speaker 1: So that was six years ago, and now he suddenly

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Speaker 1: you still don't have any answers, which is why you

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Speaker 1: Rock Sande. We don't like to pry, but but our producer,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, at the store, stop.

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Speaker 1: Asking dumb questions. Yes, But finally he asked if we

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Speaker 1: we'd leave him alone after that, and Ian agreed email,

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Speaker 1: and so Ian did send his answers back. Now, are

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Speaker 1: In the last six.

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Speaker 3: Minutes, I'm literally sweaty, and I'm like all anxious right now,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm kind of freaking out. But yes, of course

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Speaker 1: We'll hear what your ex boyfriend from six years ago

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Speaker 1: who suddenly vanished has to say now when we do

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Speaker 1: your closure call next.

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Speaker 2: All right, you're in the middle of a closure call,

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Speaker 2: but we're getting an update on the situation right after

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Speaker 2: you hear part two.

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Speaker 1: I wish we could mean this, you know, like that

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Speaker 1: awkward moment when your boyfriend suddenly disappears from your life

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Speaker 1: and then reappears six years later. So we call a

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Speaker 2: Going to Yeah, it's a little bit too much.

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Speaker 1: Text, But is it just like a baby with one

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Speaker 1: eyebrow up? Like yeah, thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: Either that or just a picture of his empty apartment.

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Speaker 1: That could work too, because that's what we're doing today

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Six years ago, she was seeing a guy named Ian

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Speaker 1: for a little over a month when, without warning, he

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Speaker 1: Roxanne and everybody in their social circle. Oh crazy, But

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Speaker 1: now he's popped up again in her area and she's

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Speaker 1: asked us for help. And Roxanne's already worked with our

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Speaker 1: producer to send four questions to her ex to try

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Speaker 2: Do you think that he could say anything that you

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I just I just don't know. I just want

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, No matter what, though, we are here for you.

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Speaker 1: If it's good, if it's bad, We're always gonna help.

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Speaker 1: Hagarbacks yes, so here we go. The first question that

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Speaker 1: we sent was I've always wondered what happened six years

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Speaker 1: let it go. Please tell me something. So Ian responded

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Speaker 3: Deep breath girl, Yeah, I'm ready, he said.

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Speaker 1: At the time, it was too painful to tell you

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Speaker 1: months before we met, i'd broken it off with my ex.

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Speaker 1: She still wanted me back, but my heart was with you. Then,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, he says, I guess something. He could

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Speaker 1: have worked out, he says, even though it completely broke

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Speaker 3: Oh man, Oh, I don't even know what to say

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Speaker 2: I just feel like he didn't even give you a chance,

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Speaker 2: Like it doesn't feel like he would have had to

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is a tough decision when you when

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Speaker 2: If he would have just talked to her, maybe he

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, Rox, And how would you have felt

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Speaker 1: if he had came to you with that in that moment.

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Speaker 3: I feel like if he came to me and said,

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Speaker 3: a good father. I feel like, no matter what he

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Speaker 3: for him because he was honest. Yeah, it seems so

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Speaker 3: weird that he just like up and left. I mean,

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Speaker 1: We found out a lot of information just on question one,

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Speaker 2: She just kind of frustrated with him, like he didn't

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Speaker 3: I don't know anymore. I don't know anything you write, Roxanne.

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Speaker 3: Girl.

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Speaker 1: Okay, don't hunt him, just go talk to him, follow

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Speaker 3: Oh god, my mind is just reeling. Yes, there's closure

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Speaker 2: And and you don't know if you guys still have

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Speaker 1: We're running short on time here, rock Sand, but you

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Speaker 3: I definitely will. I mean I still listen to you. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was your closure call. Wow, it's brooken.

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Speaker 1: Jeffery in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Freaking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: We did that closure call with Roxanne a few months back,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. I have never been more excited for

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Speaker 1: He was a raising waiting those results, and we asked him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It's just goes to show us

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Speaker 1: So roks on, how are we going to break this

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Speaker 3: So no, no, I don't want to be a homework.

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Speaker 2: Now you go find yourself a cute baby daddy.

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Speaker 1: You got this, yes, and claim that you have a

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Speaker 2: And Jeffrey in the Morning.