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Speaker 1: Good mornings, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dumps

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Speaker 1: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, October eleventh, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two, just one week away from the real Games. People,

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Speaker 2: I'm j E.

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Speaker 1: Skeis here in the Classic Factory and alongside me as

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Speaker 1: always DeAndre Eytan.

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Speaker 3: Tasmelling, Hey, what a clip that was?

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Speaker 2: That was amazing?

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's the Bearded one Trey Kirby. Hey

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Speaker 1: heo and over yonder making the magic happen. Super producer JD. Hello,

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Speaker 1: there he is here, we are JD. The people were

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Speaker 1: loving the new graphics yesterday. In the comments below the video,

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Speaker 1: the first Q? Yeah, most valuable player hit me in

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Speaker 1: the face an MGP. It's a big Q, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's very, very difficult here this season. But maybe

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Speaker 1: you disagree with me.

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Speaker 2: You got I'm piggybacking Trey's answers. So Trey, you got

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Speaker 2: to start it because I think we have the exact

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Speaker 2: same answer I'm going to follow up with the reasons

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Speaker 2: that your answer is correct.

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Speaker 3: I hate it, Tass, I actually hate to make this

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Speaker 3: pick because it's chock taking the favorite.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm surprised.

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Speaker 3: WHOA, But I'm going Luka Doncic who interesting for MVP

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Speaker 3: this year?

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Speaker 2: I was wrong.

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Speaker 3: I told you over the summer there's no way I'm

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Speaker 3: talking myself into Luca winning MVP again. But conditions are

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Speaker 3: perfect right now. He's coming in in shape, which is

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Speaker 3: the hugest thing after playing in EuroBasket all summer. You

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Speaker 3: can tell in the haircut. You can tell by how

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Speaker 3: tan he looks. He looks cut out there, and it's

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Speaker 3: gonna matter. Also important for his case and his narrative

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Speaker 3: is that his team lost a star in the off

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Speaker 3: season with Jalen Runson going to the Knicks. As we've

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Speaker 3: seen with Nikola Jokic, you don't have to finish on

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Speaker 3: top of the standings anymore, and I don't think the

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Speaker 3: Mavericks are gonna do that. I think Embiid is probably

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Speaker 3: next in line if you're picking the guys who are

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Speaker 3: gonna win MVP, but Doncic is at worst one be

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Speaker 3: right there, and then you look the staffs.

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Speaker 2: He put up.

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Speaker 3: The easiest way for me to figure it was just

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Speaker 3: looking at him after the All Star Break thirty points

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Speaker 3: per game, nine rebounds, eight assists, forty seven thirty nine

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Speaker 3: triple double for an entire season and the Mavericks win

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Speaker 3: fifty games, he's gonna win MVP.

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Speaker 1: The GM survey I know agrees with you. Forty eight

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Speaker 1: percent of them were picking Luca to win his first one,

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Speaker 1: thought he was gonna say who Joel and.

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Speaker 2: B Joel Embiid? Yeah, okay, Yeah, I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: They picked Jokic last year, and I picked Jokic last year,

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Speaker 2: I'm going with Joel and Bid because I think there

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Speaker 2: don't want to take it that much money. Give me,

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Speaker 2: give me a pay cut, so we can bring in

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Speaker 2: Daniel House, we can bring in Dan Diny Melton him

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Speaker 2: the preseason where he's talking to Doc and Doc is saying,

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Speaker 2: Joel's the guy. You're number two. Then it's sort of Maxy,

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Speaker 2: But now it's just so clear. And last year they

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Speaker 2: and I think Joelle will benefit from that, and the

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Speaker 1: You have faith in him playing sixty five plus games again,

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Speaker 1: played sixty eight last season, which was obviously a caer best.

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Speaker 2: I have faith. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the two previous seasons was fifty one

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Speaker 2: Season short season, yeah, they were.

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Speaker 1: There were, but you know, sixty eight for him was

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Speaker 1: It didn't stop him from winning back to back, but

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Speaker 1: I think that helps the Embid case. If they are

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Speaker 1: you can get it. Can you can Jokic win a

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I think it's impossible unless unless the

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Speaker 3: talking about a three peat for Jokic. But it's just

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Speaker 3: People are like, you've got to be the best team

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Speaker 3: and still the best player. So that's his only case,

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Speaker 3: I do think, and.

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Speaker 2: The Yis factor could be just the fact that he's

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Speaker 2: been one of the better players in the last five years.

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Speaker 2: He's only one two give him a third. I mean's

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Speaker 2: the NBA. Why the hell not give him a third?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think JD has the odds from bet MGM

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Speaker 1: it is Luca as the favorite for the third consecutive year.

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Speaker 1: In the preseason. He's at plus four hundred, so not

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Speaker 1: a runaway favorite. Then embiid there's the honest KD making

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Speaker 1: the list Yo kitch Okay plus nine hundred. Tatum is

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Speaker 1: just a fascinating pick because he could be the best

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Speaker 1: it all depends on how you feel about the Celtics

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Speaker 1: and not having do Oka there and all that, but

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Speaker 1: they have the highest win total on the board when

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Speaker 1: it comes to over unders. If they live up to

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Speaker 1: those expectations, it's likely because of Tatum. And this guy

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Speaker 1: you know, he's auto a lot of postseason success too,

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Speaker 1: So that's just if the Celtics, you know, run away

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Speaker 2: Him, I got some juicy odds. I like the Tatum odds,

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Speaker 2: but I'm in an odds kind movement of value pick

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Speaker 2: kind of move. What about Zion. He's way down on

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Speaker 2: the board. There's a chance, there's a chance that he

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Speaker 2: could surprise, as in, he's so damn good. We were

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Speaker 2: how good he can be will surprise people. And that's

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Speaker 2: bodes well at the end of the year. If you

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Speaker 2: see the Pelicans up there, just the shock value they

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Speaker 2: if they play well, he can take over the league.

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Speaker 2: It could be a little Derek Rose twenty eleven ish,

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Speaker 2: you know, shock the world type thing. And the odds

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Speaker 2: are good, and I think Kawhi is I don't know

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Speaker 2: how you picked. You know, I thought you.

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Speaker 3: Were going to say you can't set his odds high enough.

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Speaker 3: There's no way he's going to win MVP.

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Speaker 2: It's unlikely. It's like, you know, I don't. He took

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Speaker 2: can you do it for five months?

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Speaker 3: Probably he's an MVP caliber player. He's going to be

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Speaker 3: one of the five best players in the playoffs, but

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Speaker 3: he ain't gonna win MVP.

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Speaker 2: It's unlikely, very unlikely. And it's just I'm just playing

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Speaker 2: the value plays because they're they have the best odds

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Speaker 2: as the number one seed in the West. So if

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Speaker 2: they're the number seat one seed in the West, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think they will be. But you know, if

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Speaker 2: you feel like the uh hey, I can win seven

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Speaker 2: billion dollars if I bet ten, then.

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Speaker 1: I've heard you talk up like the it's a bit

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Speaker 1: of a dark horse. But like Zion for MVP. Do

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Speaker 3: That'll make Jokic's MVP last year look pretty bad.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's hear from everybody.

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Speaker 1: Uh in the stream team? Drop your MVP picks? Who

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Speaker 2: Test Kyrie Irving and I know I'm going I'm going

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Speaker 2: think it would be weirder for them to sign Kyrie

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Speaker 1: That's also weird.

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Speaker 1: So you're going Kyrie opening his third eye here and

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Speaker 2: Uh, my stars, Sorry, a big star, bigger star.

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Speaker 3: That's a big star. Yeah, my stars. Who do you want, skates?

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Speaker 2: You want the ward?

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Speaker 3: A former award winner or a former All Star.

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Speaker 3: There's no reason for the Jazz to keep a high

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Speaker 3: They've got the knicks twenty twenty three second round pick.

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Speaker 2: Angel Russell making thirty million dots. I talk about the

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Speaker 2: You learn something new every day. Thirty big ease.

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Speaker 3: Part of the Katie sign its trade had to be

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Speaker 3: It doesn't seem likely to me that they would just

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Speaker 1: Yeah a lot right now, A name that of course

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Speaker 1: you know, didn't look good last year after signed the

435
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Speaker 1: big deal after a really really good season. Now we

436
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna bounce back a little bit. I'll be

437
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Speaker 1: somewhere in between. So and I think the Knicks are

438
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Speaker 1: going to be at least a five hundred squad, So

439
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Speaker 1: probably unlikely if he's contributing, but I don't know. I

440
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Speaker 1: had him on my list.

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Speaker 2: Big contract for someone to say, hello, yeah, yeah, it's

442
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Speaker 2: one hundred mil over four years, right, so that's that's

443
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,679
Speaker 2: a big contract to take on. But what about the

444
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Speaker 2: guy the first name that was said on this podcast today.

445
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton? Yeah, oh so January you're flash forward?

446
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh okay, right, he has that.

447
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 1: Isn't it till January fifteenth or something?

448
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 3: He did there is a rule something like that.

449
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Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like he wants to be in Phoenix, I got.

450
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna he's gonna play put up numbers

451
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 2: in preseason. He mister, he's he can be a workhorse.

452
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Speaker 2: But I'm definitely watching the Phoenix situations as we all were.

453
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 2: When you lose by fifty, something's up. But anyway, how.

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Speaker 1: Would you rank those three guys in terms of like

455
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Speaker 1: star power, eton Turner and Collins?

456
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Speaker 3: Just like that?

457
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Speaker 1: Just like that. I think that's it's close with maybe

458
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Speaker 1: Turner and Collins.

459
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Speaker 3: But I think on my personal rankings, I got Collins

460
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Speaker 3: ahead of Turner. I like him better as a player,

461
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Speaker 3: but I think Turner has more star power and prestige

462
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Speaker 3: around the league with his shot blocking skills.

463
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Speaker 2: And along with Turner, Buddy healed, it's gotta be dope.

464
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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, we're going too deep? Are we going to?

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Can go? I mean, how.

467
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Speaker 2: About how about who he played for? Entry into the

468
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 2: player to be traded Josh Richardson, Okay, no one cares.

469
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 2: No one cares again who he played for Spurs. He's

470
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Speaker 2: still he was traded for Derek.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking Mavericks. I'm like, no, he's not there.

472
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Speaker 1: I know he's not there.

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Speaker 2: Ye yeah, it's that could be who he played for.

474
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Speaker 2: And Rashawn Holmes is an interesting one with the Kings,

475
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Speaker 2: they're deep. I think he might not be too happy

476
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Speaker 2: playing behind him on the SA bonis. You know, he

477
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Speaker 2: was kind of the bell of the ball last year

478
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Speaker 2: when the King signedhim to a four year deal. Not

479
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 2: you know, bell the balls a little much, but we

480
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Speaker 2: did talk a lot about he was a starting center.

481
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Speaker 2: He got he got a paid four year deal to

482
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Speaker 2: be the starter. Now SA bonus has taken over, and

483
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Speaker 2: how many minutes is he gonna play?

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Speaker 1: Right right, right right?

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting one there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's hear from everybody out there joining us live

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Speaker 1: right now, listening later, which star player is most likely

488
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Speaker 1: to be traded and then we get to debate whether

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Speaker 1: that player is a star.

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Speaker 3: But he healed no never won.

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Speaker 1: An awarded to.

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Speaker 3: The NBA, has ever given you a trophy or put

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Speaker 3: something on your basketball reference page. You deserve star.

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Speaker 1: What if you win like a three point contest or

495
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Speaker 1: a dunk contest?

496
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Speaker 3: Like okay, Buddy Healed was on the sixteen seventeen All

497
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Speaker 3: Rookie Team. Minor star. When you're selling it to your team,

498
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Speaker 3: you gotta be able to pitch it like that former

499
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Speaker 3: All Rookie team or Buddy Healed acquired via trade. This

500
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Speaker 3: changes everything. He's gonna finish top ten all time in

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Speaker 3: three pointers made.

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Speaker 1: Oh geez, that sounds like a star of this pitch.

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Speaker 1: That's a quality player.

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Speaker 3: You're training for three players in one Buddy Love, Buddy Fresh,

505
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Speaker 3: and of course Buddy Buckets. Okay, rank them in order

506
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Speaker 3: of who you think is better, Buddy Love, Buddy Buckets

507
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Speaker 3: or Buddy Fresh Buckets Love Fresh.

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Speaker 2: I just just looked up his name because number one,

509
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Speaker 2: he shouldn't have been on that All Rookie team because

510
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Speaker 2: he was actually a year old. But I looked up

511
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Speaker 2: his name. Travano Rainer are a I N E. R.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but making it Rainer like that guy's

513
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 2: a shooter. Yeah, you should have a fourth nickname.

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Speaker 1: Got a lot of good nicknames let's take our first

515
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Speaker 1: break when we come back. Lots more burning questions, don't

516
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Speaker 1: go anywhere. Quick fact check here from Jonathan in the

517
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Speaker 1: stream team Buddy Healed did win a three point contest

518
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Speaker 1: which we had totally forgotten about in Chicago. He beat

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Speaker 1: Booker and Burtons in the final.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Booker, Burtons and Buddy in the finals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Also another another correction here. Well, first of all, they

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Speaker 3: should put if you win the dunk contest or the

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Speaker 3: three point contest on Basketball Reference. Yeah, I mean it's

526
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Speaker 3: not quite an award, but it's an achievement for sure.

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 3: But my correction is if you make the All Rookie Team,

529
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Speaker 3: it shouldn't count in his award as an award. Because

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Speaker 3: I went and looked at the twenty sixteen to seventeen

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Speaker 3: All Rookie Team. You want to take a guess at

532
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Speaker 3: the first team, literally the first team.

533
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Speaker 2: We got one MP.

534
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Speaker 3: We've got one MVP candidate who's there. He could win

535
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Speaker 3: MVP this year, especially if you're task you would think

536
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Speaker 3: so and b Joel Embi.

537
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Speaker 2: So that'll give you a hand like brog brogged in

538
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Speaker 2: Dario Sarch.

539
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 3: Dario Srich made first Team.

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Speaker 2: My man, Pascal Siakam didn't make it.

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Speaker 3: No, he's he's not on the first or second team.

542
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Speaker 3: Buddy Healed first teamer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

544
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Speaker 3: And the other all rookie first teamer won an MVP

545
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Speaker 3: Award over the summer.

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Speaker 2: Willie hernan Gomez.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, wow, First Team Rookie twenty sixteen seventeen. So

548
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Speaker 3: you know, Willie could be traded this summer or this season.

549
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Speaker 2: That's another star for.

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Speaker 1: Your right and ten Zen in the stream team. Just

551
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Speaker 1: an interesting point about D'Angelo Russell. Tenzen thinks maybe he

552
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Speaker 1: will have his best season since his net stays for

553
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons, one contractor you know that does

554
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Speaker 1: get guys to play to another level at times, and

555
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Speaker 1: then having Gobert, who is one of the best in

556
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: the NBA helps since Dilo did excel with Jared Allen

557
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: totally as a roller. So good point there from Tenzen.

558
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Speaker 1: We'll see what d'anel Russell gets up to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we went through this that in the

560
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: some of our preseason the over undershow when we're talking

561
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: about the Wolves, Go Bear himself had like eighty ali

562
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Speaker 2: you dunk right last year and the Wolves had seven.

563
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: So he's gonna help and Russell's gonna find him for sure.

564
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Speaker 2: Something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, next question, it's another awards based prediction. Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the Year. Let's talk about the kids Trey gets started.

567
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Speaker 1: Who you got your eye on for this one?

568
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Speaker 2: Who's the favorite PB?

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Speaker 3: Yep, give me Palo Bancaro. Yeah, he's a walking bucket

570
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Speaker 3: and there are shots to be had in Orlando. They

571
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Speaker 3: finished thirtieth in offense last season. They are bringing back

572
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Speaker 3: their two leading scorers from last year, Cole Anthony sixteen

573
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: point three points per game, Franz Wagner fifteen point two

574
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Speaker 3: points per game. Franz will take a lot more shots

575
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Speaker 3: this year. He'll be a main offensive focus. But they

576
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Speaker 3: gotta let Palo cut uh. It's good for their record

577
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: if your rookie is taking the most shots on the team,

578
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Speaker 3: and it's good for their long term development as well.

579
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Speaker 3: So I think he's gonna score a whole bunch of points.

580
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Speaker 3: He looks like he's just built for the NBA already

581
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Speaker 3: has a pretty deep bag. So excited to see Paula

582
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Speaker 3: Bunker in the Magic.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he gotta go with him. He is huge,

584
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 2: He's he's a monster already and he's got the footwork,

585
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 2: as he said, bag is deep, face up block shots,

586
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: get real physical like he's ready. He is ready, and

587
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: he's gonna get lots of opportunity on that team. They

588
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: just need a jelly to go along with Peb. I

589
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: think the nickname, his nickname is gonna go. He is

590
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: gonna be Peeb at some point. I well, because I

591
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Speaker 2: started thinking abou Summer Leae when I when I when

592
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Speaker 2: I was thinking about this question and Paul Buncrroll taking

593
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Speaker 2: off the floor after two games because he's that good,

594
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Speaker 2: you know, and you're in when you're in Summer League,

595
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Speaker 2: you sit after a few games. He's that good. I

596
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: did think of Keegan Murray though, with Yeah, he played

597
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Speaker 2: really well. He looks so good. But he's ready for

598
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: for prime time too. But unlike Summer League and unlike

599
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: Paula Bonco, I don't think he's gonna get the opportunities.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on a in theory, a better team at

601
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: least the ball going through other players before him in

602
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: Sabonis in Fox.

603
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: Yes, offensively for sure, and keeping may not start. Doesn't

604
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: feel like he's gonna start on that team. Uh, Barnes

605
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 2: is gonna start in front of him and you can

606
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: consider him power for but it doesn't look like he's

607
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: gonna start. There's there's there's oldies that could play more

608
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: than him, and Harrison Barnes and even Trey Lyles. There's

609
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: young'ins caseyok Paula, uh Chimezi Metu, Chimo Neki. There's lots

610
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: of names on the Kings, and I think I think

611
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: he could lose a lot of minutes. And that's the problem.

612
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: They're not they're not just given to him. The problem

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Speaker 2: with the Kings on like the Magic. Like you said, yeah,

614
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: the Kings are a quote unquote better team and they're

615
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 2: trying to make the playoffs. Well the Magic, No, they're bad.

616
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: So m hm.

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Speaker 1: When you're picking a Rookie of the Year, you generally

618
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Speaker 1: like you guys are doing just think points points, points,

619
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Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter if your team stinks.

620
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: Usually.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, there's that, and I would like a lot

622
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Speaker 1: of the times it goes to one of the top

623
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Speaker 1: three picks. Since nineteen ninety twenty three of the thirty

624
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Speaker 1: four Rookie of the Years, that's nearly seventy percent we're

625
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: drafted in the top three, and nearly half were the

626
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Speaker 1: number one pick. So there's another case for pan Caro

627
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: there with the magic forty four percent. Since nineteen ninety,

628
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: number one picks have gone on to win it. And

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Speaker 1: then there's been other instances, of course, where guys were

630
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: probably going to win it and then injury sort of

631
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Speaker 1: reeled their Rookie of the Year. Yeah, maybe you just

632
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Speaker 1: don't want to overthink this one and go with him.

633
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see Keithan Murray and even Jabari Smith

634
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: on the rockets. I just don't know if they'll have

635
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: the counting stats to keep up with peebe as you

636
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: were calling it the person, I mean too soon. He's

637
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: got a cool name as it is.

638
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: So totally, yeah, totally, we're gonna go with that. We're

639
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: gonna go with that.

640
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: Sure, do you have any you know, wild card picks

641
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: When it comes to Rookie of the Year, you're looking

642
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Speaker 1: down from value picks.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm excited for Jen Ivy Is Well, yeah, absolutely, Detroit.

644
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: It's unlikely though, what about a Jeremy Sochan. I see

645
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: some some stream teamers getting excited first pick, lots of

646
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: minutes to be had, that's unlikely. He's gonna be exciting though, Trey.

647
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: Is there any other rookies could score a ton that

648
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: were maybe ticking in whatever the top fifteen, top ten.

649
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: I like David Roddy to be a random guy that

650
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: shows up on the All Rookie Team for years later

651
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: to look back and think of that big old bully.

652
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: He's got like a very beefy physique. With the Grizzlies there,

653
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: Jared Jackson Junior is out, so maybe he'll get a

654
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: little time early in the season, which kind of solidifies

655
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: his role going forward. Did you just dropped a David

656
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: Roddy on your body? Big body, David Roddy, Oh, put

657
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: it on the put it on the site right now

658
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: and put him lock him in for one of the

659
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: ten best rookies this year.

660
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I was thinking hot Roddy, I guess because we

661
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: were just talking about hot Rod the movie. I was

662
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: thinking hot Body. But I will big Body, David righty.

663
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: I will make another Okay, but this is true, sick

664
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: of shit, I will make another second team All Rookie prediction.

665
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: There we put Jalen Williams on the second Which one

666
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: rookie which the number twelve? Pick the J A. L. E. N. Williams. Okay,

667
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: which one is that I just told you two things

668
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: about him. You know, I honestly he's played really well

669
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: in preseason and with Shaye injured to started season. Holmgren

670
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: of course out. I think he's gonna get some opportunity

671
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: and he could put up some numbers. He had like

672
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: a fifteen thirteen game in preseason. I think they may

673
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 1: have been playing not even an NBA team, that may

674
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: have been against an Israeli team. But I think he's uh,

675
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: I'll show some flashes. I'll make the second team All Rookie.

676
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: You just mentioned Shay. I saw some people a little

677
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: upset with you that you didn't name Shaye ghost Alexander

678
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: as the first time. Also again, like you do every.

679
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: Year, I thought you're gonna say, I could have had

680
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: him as my answer for star most likely to be traded.

681
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't do that, Andrew Schlecht, don't do

682
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: that too. No, he's not kidding.

683
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. But let's hear from everybody. Rookie

684
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: of the year. Are you going? Can you get crazy

685
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: with anyone else?

686
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hear your second team picks. Yeah, second team

687
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: All rookie picks, go deep.

688
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: Most overrated team or player heading into the season. Let's

689
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: get people angry. It's always upsets people.

690
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: I love it on this show, specifically, specifically, no Dunk's

691
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: focused right here.

692
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: The Kings are overrated.

693
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: We're talking about too much right now. We good, I know, man,

694
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: We're like they're over under, We're thirty five or row

695
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: like over over over Kings, so many awards this year.

696
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: It's the Kings, man, we gotta chill out a little bit.

697
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: But this is the time, this is the time to

698
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: be excited. Uh, and they are going to get into

699
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: that number ten seed. You can lock it in. In general,

700
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: I think the Pelicans are a little bit overrated. Sure,

701
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: you know, they had a really tough start last year,

702
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: started one to twelve, but then they played five hundred

703
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: basketball for most of the last season. They were awesome

704
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: in the play in tournament. They really gave the Sons

705
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: a scare in their first round series. They've got Zion

706
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: coming back. All of that to me just adds up

707
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: to expectations, and it can be hard to play with

708
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: the expectations compared to playing a season last year that

709
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: was a little bit of gravy. Right, You're like, we're

710
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: not gonna go far, knowing we don't have our franchise cornerstone,

711
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: but let's see what else we can get going. The

712
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: Pelicans kind of overperformed once they got on the same

713
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: page with Willie Green. I think he's a really solid coach.

714
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: But I think there are things that they're going to

715
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: have to figure out with CJ. McCollum having the ball

716
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: a lot, Zion having the ball a lot, Brandon Ingram

717
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: having the ball a lot, Second Team All Rookie twenty

718
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: sixteen to seventeen, weird Weird Gomez was locking him down,

719
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: I guess that season. But yeah, I think the Pelicans

720
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: are gonna be good. But people are talking about them

721
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: as a potential first round home court advantage team in

722
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 3: the Western Conference, and I think that would be a

723
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: huge leap for them to actually make.

724
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: That was the same thing we were doing last year

725
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: as well. Right, I think it was twelve months ago

726
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: we were saying the same thing about the Pelicans, considering

727
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: Zion was coming back, everybody hyped, everybody hyped, and Zion

728
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: didn't come back, and yeah they were resilient. So yeah, yeah,

729
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: it's all it's all about Zion. Zion has the Brahmar there.

730
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm I'm pumped to see if he can come back.

731
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: I found this question super hard.

732
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

733
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was looking at the player, and I think

734
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: that more so the players there. There isn't a a

735
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony who's got a lot of counting stats but

736
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: hasn't won. Russell Westbrook is not overrated anymore like something.

737
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: He's been knocked down a couple pegs. I found it

738
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: extremely tough. There is there a player that maybe somebody

739
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: that you thought could be a superstar but isn't going

740
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 2: to get to that level. Is bam ad a bio overrated?

741
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: Is somethink he may be a star? I mean maybe

742
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: he's properly rated. If you think he's a two to

743
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: three guy, I think that's where he's gonna end up.

744
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: He's obviously a defensive Player of the Year candidate. I'm

745
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: going with the stars because you got more room to

746
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: to rate. You know, we just talked about stars. Maybe

747
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: maybe we got to start looking at referees. Uh and

748
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: and they're overrated. Yeah, there's too many, like Courtney Kirkland,

749
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: way overrated. We just had some Kirkland Seltzer's yesterday at

750
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: j D's properly rated. Kirkland Seltzer like that, no name

751
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: brand of Costco. Costco. Yeah, listen, all the Seltzers are

752
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: the same, there are, There are a couple. There are

753
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: a couple of good ones that actually put in real ingredients.

754
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: Not going to say the product name because we've already

755
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: done too much advertising on this show this season, two

756
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: shows in. Yeah, so I'm not gonna say them, but

757
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: you know they get pricey or if you go to

758
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: a nice brewery, they do some seltzers right too, because

759
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: they got to get into the seltzer game because everybody's

760
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: having Seltzers anyways, Courtney Kirkland way overrated, That's what I'm there.

761
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: There's some names being thrown around the wrong the street.

762
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: So I.

763
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: Saw Devin Booker, I saw a Donovan Mitchell, I saw

764
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: Jellen Brunson. I saw DeAndre Ayton, not to Andre Jordan

765
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: uh Bradley Beal.

766
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about that.

767
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: I partially agree with every name that you just saw

768
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: a little bit, a little bit.

769
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to pick a team to go back

770
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: there over he wants to pick a player, don't want

771
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: to end up on Instagram, And this is gonna.

772
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: Be my most famous moment.

773
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: That's true, it's going to be interesting because you took

774
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: Luca for m v P already in this show. But

775
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: I think the Mavericks are overrated. And I went through

776
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: all the teams that I think are going to be

777
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: better than them already, and I I guess I'm just

778
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: questioning is the defense going to be as elite as

779
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: it was last year, which was pretty surprising to a

780
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: lot of us, how great it was got Wooden. Now

781
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: he's not really known as a defensive you know, stopper

782
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: there McGee. Maybe he helps, you know, cleaning up some

783
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: rebounds and blocking. But I just wonder, like, are they

784
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: just gonna be very similar to what we saw with

785
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: the Hawks in the East when they went to the

786
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: conference finals. It was sort of a weird run and

787
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: then sort of fell back to earth. I think it's

788
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: in play. They have a lot of really good players,

789
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: but are they gonna need like the second superstar to

790
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: pair with Luca for like a long postseason run. That's

791
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: that's my question.

792
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Dallas Mavericks because they always survived without that

793
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: second star. But Jalen Brunson was, I mean, extremely solid.

794
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: It was a good look and they didn't. They weren't

795
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: lights out, Like Luca missed a good chunk of time

796
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: and they went ten to ten. But you know, Brunson was,

797
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, instrumental in them keeping a five hundred record

798
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: in a lot of those games, especially playoff games, and

799
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: he's not there now, So I just think they might

800
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: they might come down a little bit. But like now

801
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: I'm talking it out, I don't even know if they

802
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: are overrated. They were what a fifty two win team

803
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: last year or something.

804
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: Like that a lot. Yeah, and I do think Luca

805
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 2: is in better shape. I'm buying that storyline. I'm buying it.

806
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: This is yeah, because this is.

807
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: Year five of his career. It just makes sense.

808
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: I've already said this. Though the counter will be like

809
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: if he struggles for whatever reason or he gets an injury,

810
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: then people will do the opposite and say, guy played

811
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: too much basketball during the offseason, should take care of

812
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: his body, should have rested more.

813
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: They got eliminated. They didn't even make it to the finals.

814
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: Zero ODI. But yeah, we're seeing the names you mentioned.

815
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: As far as the stream team here rating people, they

816
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: did a fine job. But I like, yeah, you partially

817
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: agreed with all I don't think there's one. I got

818
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: no problem saying there's one. I don't think there's a

819
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: good one.

820
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: Donovan Ridge Porter Junior, Michael Porter Junior is an overrated player.

821
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: We've seen one really good stretch from him. It was

822
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: in the bubble. Obviously, he was injured last year and

823
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: was really underperforming with his back injury before he went

824
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: out for the end of the season. I don't know.

825
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: It feels like myself included penciling them him in for

826
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: eighteen points a game, forty percent from three, being a

827
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: reliable third star for the Nuggets, And I don't know

828
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: that you can lock that in right now.

829
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't lock it in. Zion Williamson has been

830
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: mentioned here by Cristos vid Us. But if he's not

831
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: on the court, how is he overrated? Like overrated as

832
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: far as yet you think of him as a great player,

833
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: but he's not on the court. Fine, I don't know.

834
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: I find it different. I've like the Bradley Beel one.

835
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: You want to talk about that a guy who makes

836
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: a quarter of a billion dollars, maybe you know, maybe

837
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: that's fine. The Donovan Mitchell one, I get that as well.

838
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: People throwing that one out there. Maybe just a score

839
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: who wasn't great at scoring in the fourth quarter last year,

840
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: but I put that on. It was just the end

841
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: in Utah and his performance showed that. And so he

842
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: was not great last year. But can he get back

843
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: to a guy who was balling in the playoffs, had

844
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: average thirty six and then thirty two and two consecutive

845
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: postseasons before last year. I'm bying. I think he can

846
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: do more and he was part of great defenses. I

847
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: think we'll see that in Cleveland this year.

848
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: And Ty Winter undering Jamal Murray. Was Bubble Murray real

849
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: or was it just a hot streak?

850
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: Great question, he said.

851
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: I believe it may have been. In an interview with

852
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: Taylor Rooks, I saw a clip going around that he

853
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: said it was the most real basketball? Is that your basketball?

854
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

855
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: That's correct, because you know that's all they were doing.

856
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: They were living and breathing basketball in Orlando and there

857
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: was no other distraction. It's a fascinating way to look

858
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: at it. I'd never thought about it, Ty, but.

859
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 3: Well, he played well, so yeah, exactly. It's like it's

860
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 3: no different to me than Lebron saying the twenty twenty

861
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: Bubble title is the hardest title, or the heat saying

862
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: that that's real basketball and the heat being perfect for

863
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 3: that sort of scenario. If your team or yourself performed

864
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 3: well in the bubble, it was pure basketball right there.

865
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: And if your team struggled and these other players and

866
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: teams succeeded, it was too easy out there, you know.

867
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: Timothay lub Cabareaut also said it was real basketball. He

868
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: had a great run with the nets during that postseason.

869
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: But Jamal Murray hasn't played in a postseason since that

870
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 2: bubble season. Give give give me a seck here.

871
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons said it was real fishing in it was

872
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: actually the opposite that was, that's not real fish.

873
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: Those are.

874
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: Fake fishers, fake fishers. Oh you think you're telling me

875
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons was putting lead weights in his fish.

876
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: I thought of that.

877
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: Tell me you put walleye filets inside those. He was

878
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: putting beads up his ass, beads in his fish.

879
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: That's it.

880
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: That's following that one.

881
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: Ess what I'm about? The date on the scandals, every scandal,

882
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: every tertiary sport had a scandal this summer. Yessuh, fishing,

883
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: there's another one, dancing eating contests.

884
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: Has there been a pickle bowl uh scandal yet? Anything

885
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: happening on.

886
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: The court really good poker, poker.

887
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 3: Poker poker, that's aird one.

888
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

889
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: That with the woman, you know, taking the hand from

890
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: that guy that was on the Survivor. Yeah, yeah, and

891
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: she gave money back.

892
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: It's weird. It's weird. That's gonna be one of our

893
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: burning questions here. What is going to be the NBA's

894
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: cheating scandal this year? So I think it's magnet balls

895
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: or something.

896
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: Bradley bead checked the.

897
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: Fish is great. As much as I like the beads,

898
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: we could go back and and just create the footage

899
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: from the bubble guys fishing, you know, do the the investigation, like,

900
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: you know, zoom in on this fish. Oh, this fish

901
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: looks like it's protruding a metal you know, metal weight

902
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: out of you know, I know where the bodies are buried.

903
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: I know where the fish have been buried, you know

904
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: what I mean? Really one of those investigative Yeah, there's

905
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: a weight in that fish.

906
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: We got weights and fish. I think you have to

907
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: throw out every single fish record because how do I

908
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: love fish didn't have weights on them?

909
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: I love fish records.

910
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. When we come back,

911
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: we will get into Dunk Contest participants we would love

912
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: to see uh in Salt Lake City this year? And

913
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: which team will finish with the worst record. There's a

914
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: couple teams you can make the case for it. Don't

915
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: go anywhere. A lot of scandals with the beads. As

916
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: we were talking about some weird sports, I said Bradley

917
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: bead thinking that was funny. But Coyote Jester takes it

918
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: to the next level. Joelle Inbeid, Well done, Coyote. Okay,

919
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: next question here with our burning questions for our season preview,

920
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: this is what we always do. It's a little random,

921
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 1: I'll admit, But a Dunk Contest participant that you would

922
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 1: love to see this year in February in Salt Lake City?

923
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: Who do you want?

924
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to see John Morant, and I think he's

925
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: one of those superstars that's going to follow through.

926
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: He said it would take a million dollars, didn't he

927
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: or a million? I like which one was it? I

928
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: can't keep track anymore.

929
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: I think we can take care of both. Not me personally,

930
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: I can't do either. But somebody is gonna can pay,

931
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna sponsor him, somebody can basically make it happen.

932
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: I think it was the second half last year the

933
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: All Star Game. He got on the broadcast and Reggie

934
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: Millers said, as they were watching a clip of an

935
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: alleyupe from Tree Young to him, he said, let's get

936
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: you in the s dunk contest. He didn't say no.

937
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: I take that as a yes. I think he'll do it.

938
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: I think he's you know, he's got his first All

939
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: Star appearance. Now he's established. He's not just going into

940
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: the Slam Dunk Contest before the All Star Game. He's

941
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: just one of those guys. He is a real one.

942
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: As they say, I think I think we'll follow through.

943
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we want to, like bring the dunk contest back,

944
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: save it, so to speak. John Morant and Zion Williamson

945
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: going in this thing with I'd give him some punch.

946
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: I get everybody tuning in, but I just don't know

947
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: how how likely it is.

948
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, tasks Trey, what about you we need a rich

949
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: guy to put up a million dollars? Are you going

950
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: to say I need the Dunk Contest come back a

951
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 3: million dollars to whoever wins.

952
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: Oh, how is Drake?

953
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 3: Drake should do it exactly, Drake should do it. Should

954
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: put up a million dollars of his own money or

955
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 3: whatever that betting company here he's always posting about on Instagram. Yeah,

956
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: put up a million dollars of their money so we

957
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: can actually have a good dunk contest. Because if they

958
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 3: don't get a star, take the year off, back to

959
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: back duds with players nobody cares about. It was terrible

960
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: last year. They took a year off the last time

961
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: they had a dunk contest in Cleveland. Then it came

962
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: back Raren in two thousand. So John needs to be

963
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 3: in it, or Zion or Anthony Edwards or just watch

964
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: the highlights. The only other player I'm offering up is

965
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons. Go on the dunk contest. Show us what

966
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: you're good at.

967
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: Man.

968
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: When people over to your side for once, like go

969
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: have an awesome dunk contest performance, people might like you again.

970
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: Even reward.

971
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: Have you seen the video going around today? He's like,

972
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 3: they're like they're have like some nets community event. He

973
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: just takes a joking around three pointer. You're gonna be surprised.

974
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: But he doesn't hit any sort of rim net. He's

975
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: about a foot to the left, so of course this

976
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: is going everywhere. The guy can't shoot, and he also

977
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 3: can't shoot without being made fun of at this point,

978
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: So go do something awesome. Do a great dunk contest performance,

979
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: save the dunk contest because it has been bad the

980
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 3: past two seasons. Maybe that wins some fans back. Okay,

981
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: it's possible. For sure, he won't to it. That's a

982
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: lot of pressure.

983
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: John Morant loves pressure. John Rant loves money. Somebody pay

984
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: the guy, Somebody pay him. It's nothing off rich people's backs.

985
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: And we were sitting here literally crying watching the dunk

986
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 2: contest last year. Okay, not literally crying.

987
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: But we're It was very bad.

988
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: It was here.

989
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: We had Obi top and winning I believe against uh one,

990
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: Tuscano Anderson in the final. Yeah, we obviously have Cole

991
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: Anthony in his tim which was a fun moment, I'll

992
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: give him that, and Jalen Green really disappointed us.

993
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, it was a disappointing ending. It didn't

994
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: get it didn't get better as it went on, and

995
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: we just got a little more sad as it went on.

996
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: I was drinking more and more Seltzers as it was

997
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: that I love all these suggestions. They're not gonna happen, fortunately,

998
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: because people are too cool for school. And I think

999
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: I think Shade and Sharp will probably go in it.

1000
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: Rookie from the Blazers who have I don't know, They

1001
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: say he has like a forty nine inch vertical he

1002
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: can dunk. I mean you give it a go. Okay wait,

1003
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if we're not gonna get the stars

1004
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: to go in it, then we just need two guys

1005
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: that can actually dunk and put on some sort of

1006
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: show to make it half worth while. So I will

1007
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: have Sharp going in this as likely likely and and

1008
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: someone I want to see. Don't get me wrong, Like

1009
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: even if you got Jahn Moran, Ran need a couple

1010
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: other people.

1011
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 2: You need other people?

1012
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So put the guy in it a forty

1013
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: nine inch vertical he can dunk, you can dug? Should

1014
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: I remove that question for next year? And it just

1015
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: gets everybody else sad and we's getting angry about the

1016
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: dunk contest.

1017
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: I'm usually excited. Man, last year broke me. It was

1018
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 3: it was yeah, I almost got a man did get

1019
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: pulled over on the way out. The only good thing

1020
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 3: about the dunk contest last year? Is I didn't get

1021
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: a ticket for rolling a stop side. That was the

1022
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: first time I ever talked my way out of the ticket.

1023
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: That's we forgot about that.

1024
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was ready for you to answer that question

1025
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 2: this year. But it's over. Man.

1026
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: We got some people say is a great idea? Ivy Okay, yeah, Greg,

1027
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: people are saying Greg Brown, Greg Brown, I he went

1028
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: he did an East Bay right during a game last year?

1029
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 2: Yeah? Last year?

1030
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Which Obie topping is done? Here in pre season two.

1031
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: There's not even a lot of great suggestions from the

1032
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: stream team. And I'm being honest.

1033
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: Jonathan Kuminge, Okay, sure, sure was it there?

1034
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: Weren't we like begging him to go in it last year?

1035
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: Please?

1036
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 3: Jonathan Kuming.

1037
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: I think Draymond Green was begging him.

1038
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: They like all the Warriors were.

1039
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 3: You're getting wants Connell Anderson, we got Jonathan Kamen get home,

1040
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 3: you go home. It's wants to.

1041
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: Which team our final question for this part two of

1042
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: our season previous series? Which team will finish with the

1043
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: worst record? Who wants to get us started? How many

1044
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: teams did you legit? Consider one? Just one? Okay?

1045
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: I I I was strong with one as well. I

1046
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: know the teams that are I know that, I know

1047
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 2: the teams that aren't going for it. You know, help

1048
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: me out here. The Rockets, the Thunder are going to

1049
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: be bad, The Magic are going to be Badcers Pacers

1050
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: are the one. Pacers are absolutely my pick. With Tyrese

1051
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: Haliburton their prize trade target. Last year, they were six

1052
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 2: and twenty in their last twenty six games with him.

1053
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: With him, so he's gonna play this year. That's like

1054
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: a fifteen or sixteen win pace. Now I'm not saying

1055
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna win that few games, but between fifteen and twenty,

1056
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: like twenty I think is realistic, which is what the

1057
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: worst team ended with last year. So six and twenty

1058
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: record to end the season. That was with Buddy Healed

1059
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: as well, it wasn't with Miles Turner and I bring

1060
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: those two guys up because those two will be traded

1061
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: at some point. So it's gonna be Tyres for Haliburton

1062
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: playing with Benedict methru and playing with TJ. McConnell, like,

1063
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: that's that's who. That's who's gonna be out there, arte

1064
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: ye duartep, You didn't pick them for a fifty point game.

1065
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: I saw that as a comment yesterday. Not a bad

1066
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 2: one anyway, because it's gonna be a bad team. Somebody's

1067
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 2: gonna score points, but they're not gonna score more points

1068
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: than the other team very often. I think it's the

1069
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: Pacers lock it in.

1070
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: Trey has a different team. Yeah, Oklahoma City Thunder. They're

1071
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: already missing their two best players in Shay Gill just

1072
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: Alexander and chet Holme Grin Shay. Will Shirley play a

1073
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: handful of games at some point this year, but he

1074
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: will come back. He'll be the best player on the

1075
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: court for the Thunder, and then they'll find another reason

1076
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: to shut him down. They've been tanking for a few

1077
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: seasons here, and now the best prospect in twenty years

1078
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 3: comes available, and we're supposed to expect them to not

1079
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: have one of the worst records in the league. I

1080
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Speaker 3: think the Thunder will push all in for Victor Weinbinnon.

1081
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: I think they won twenty four games last year with

1082
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: that similar scenario. Shake Gilsers Alexander missed a quarter of

1083
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: the season, and they didn't have check Holmgren obviously, and

1084
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,479
Speaker 2: they still were all right, not the worst. Yeah, We're

1085
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: not the worst. I mean they had a decent defense.

1086
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Speaker 2: I think if Shay comes back, I assume he's coming

1087
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: back at some point. I think they could. I think

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00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: they could fight for the twelve and a half seed.

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Speaker 1: I would have the Utah Jazz having a worst record.

1090
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Speaker 4: You're not a jazz man, Danny Ainge isn't like trading

1091
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 4: away everybody for the eleventh seed or twelve seed be

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00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 4: the worst, then they should and they probably, like you said,

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00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 4: maybe you're trading some other guys too.

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Speaker 1: Would be it Conley or Clarkson. As we get into

1095
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: the start of the season here, I think they're.

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00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: Gonna be Yeah, it depends even my pick with the

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00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: Pacers or the Jazz as well, win they trade Mike

1098
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: Conley or those guys. My Colley's not gonna have a

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00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: fifteen win team, No, sir.

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00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: How about this wild card team for worst record, the Hornets.

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00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we all hit the under pretty hard in

1102
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: our over unders LaMelo Ball. I don't know if you

1103
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: saw a sprain his ankle last night. I don't know

1104
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: how serious it is. Hopefully it's nothing bad.

1105
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: But it's like a season ending in I.

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00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: Mean, you joke about that, but they could definitely chat

1107
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: and they like, just they did nothing this offseason. They're

1108
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: going to be bad with LaMelo.

1109
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 2: Ball or not, to be honest, So Michael Jordan losing.

1110
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's gonna trade for every Zeller and Plumbley in

1111
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 2: the league and try and win the championship. I don't

1112
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: see him trying to tank at all. Really. I think

1113
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: they'll be bad, yeah, but just not the worst. What's

1114
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 2: Gordon Hayward on the IR right now? I'm not actually asking,

1115
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 2: but anyway.

1116
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: A lot of people saying the Spurs too. There they

1117
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: may have one of the worst wind totals by way

1118
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: of I guess and right, people, So there's really three there,

1119
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: excuse me, two in the West, three if you're counting

1120
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: the Thunder. I should say, sorry in the in the

1121
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: Jazz and the Spurs and the Thunder and then Rocket.

1122
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: I think the Rockets are gonna be a little feisty.

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00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, they play Silas makes them play.

1124
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: We'll see. Let's differ everybody out there, who's gonna be

1125
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: the worst team in the league. Any final thoughts, are

1126
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: you going to a baseball game today? You got all

1127
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: your braids gear on? No, you got a no breaks down?

1128
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: So coming up. Yeah, tomorrow you're going to the game.

1129
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 3: No, I'm not going tomorrow. You know, you know tast

1130
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 3: send a message to the group. He said, Tuesday, one

1131
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 3: o'clock Wednesday, four thirty. In for either scenario. I said, cool,

1132
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: I gotta work Tuesday, but I'm in for Wednesday. He said, nice,

1133
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: I'm going Tuesday.

1134
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 2: I want I want eyes on every game.

1135
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: Like Spye.

1136
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my thing.

1137
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're going Wedday.

1138
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't do Wednesday. Okay, So you got a

1139
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 2: nice one uh one pm? Sorry, Yeah, I'm bailing here

1140
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: quite soon, and I gotta go so far. It takes

1141
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: so long to get there. It's eleven am, two hours

1142
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: before game time right now. I gotta leave and I

1143
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: might see first pitch.

1144
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm it's gonna take you longer to park, yeah, and

1145
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: then walk park walk Yeah.

1146
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: And you can't take share a ride, share, can't take

1147
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: an oobs, can't take a lift there because it takes

1148
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: forever to leave. They lock you in the battery, in

1149
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: the battery, serge pricing leaving the taxis pull up like

1150
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: it's freaking forty years ago, and they're like, hey, i'll

1151
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: charge you. I'll charge you six six times the price

1152
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: that you see on your phone. Because comar on your

1153
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: phone isn't going to show up until like eight pm tonight,

1154
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: until the game time tomorrow. Might as well just stay

1155
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: here till tomorrow. Yeah, I'll see it. I'll see you tomorrow, Trey.

1156
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 2: I'll just be sitting there waiting for my uber, still

1157
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: waiting for my uber. Game two.

1158
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: I know what somebody you were thinking, probably on the

1159
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: stream team listening later, why don't you take public transit there? Ah,

1160
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't take public transit to the baseball stadium.

1161
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: The last time I was in the battery for a

1162
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: Braves game, I grew a beard. I could not get

1163
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: out one hundred dollars one hundred dollar Uber to get home.

1164
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: That was a deal. That was me waiting with Grisham

1165
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: three hours. We went to a gas station. We were

1166
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: buying beers. We were drinking in the parking lot of

1167
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: a gas station after a game, to kill time. Embarrassing.

1168
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: We've nearly got into a car with a complete stranger

1169
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: who was going the opposite ways, Like, what what are.

1170
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: You doing here?

1171
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: We're grown men. We can't get home.

1172
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred dollars, I thought I lived far

1173
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: I got I got a ninety dollars offer, and I

1174
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: said I'd rather wait here and freeze. I almost got

1175
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 2: thrown into a cop car because I was running after

1176
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: my ride chair one time. I was running after I

1177
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: was running after my right chair. Cop said no, go

1178
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: over there with everybody else. And I said, excuse me, sir,

1179
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get No, they pick it up,

1180
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: they pick you up over there. So I turned around.

1181
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: I started to walk away from the cop and he said, no,

1182
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: you can't go back that way. Walk around the gate,

1183
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: and and I like got close to him, and he

1184
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 2: got he got right up in my face and he said,

1185
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: you walk around the gate. There's a gate there for

1186
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: no reason, and you walk around it.

1187
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: I enjoy the game, man, Go bay.

1188
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: I'm ride my bike tomorrow.

1189
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 2: Who Yeah, it would take less time.

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00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure if one way is downhill a

1191
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: little bit more of than an uphill. I think it

1192
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: might cruise home. Actually, I think it's a little more

1193
00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: downhill on the way back.

1194
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 3: Okay, so so an eight hour bike ride, ok, just

1195
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: just laying in the stands. Finally go home. Had on back.

1196
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 2: Whoo you crazy?

1197
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for today's show. We we'll call

1198
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: it there part three tomorrow live at TENNEM Eastern. Trey

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Speaker 1: can't go to the baseball games today cause he's got

1200
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: some no breaks. Talking with Graydon about, uh, where was

1201
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: the latest race in Japan?

1202
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1203
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: Controversial? What's going on here? Like Max vers Stappen one

1204
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: the title?

1205
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: But he did.

1206
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: He's a two time world champion now, yeah, but they

1207
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: had to do a lot of math to figure it out.

1208
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 3: He was he needed to win, he needed to have

1209
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: eight more points than Leclair and six more points than Perez.

1210
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,959
Speaker 3: But because the race got delayed due to a big

1211
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 3: time rainstorm, Yeah, it was pushed back and ended up

1212
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 3: being a timed race. They weren't sure how many laps

1213
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 3: they were going to get in and that matters because

1214
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 3: if you finish twenty five percent of the race, the

1215
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: number of points is different than if you finished fifty percent.

1216
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 2: Of the race. Whatever.

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00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 3: Who knows. But instead of watching baseball, me and Graydon

1218
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: are gonna be talking about the forty five minutes of

1219
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 3: a race that we actually got to see at.

1220
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: Least, didn't watch it live at least Yeah.

1221
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was on at like one am two live,

1222
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 3: so certainly people stayed up for that one. I was

1223
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 3: that would be a tough watch for sure.

1224
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: All right, well check out No Breaks Clipper Bro. Apparently

1225
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: we'll be watching No Breaks has its own YouTube. I'm

1226
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: watching the race. Looks like he's on a race there,

1227
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: sort of.

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00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 3: I'll screens up.

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00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: So No Breaks one PM over on its own YouTube

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00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: feed and podcast feed. Go join Trey and graydon break

1231
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: down that race there. Get your No Dunks merch over

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Speaker 1: at No dunk dot com. Get your questions of comments

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Speaker 1: in No Dunks at the Athletic dot com.

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Speaker 1: Five star ratings and reviews on Apple Podcasts or Spotify

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Speaker 1: where you listen and download the show back tomorrow. A

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Speaker 1: couple of questions, guys, who wins the East, which coach

1238
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: is on the hot seat, and who should be the

1239
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: favorite to win Defensive Player of the Year talking defense

1240
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Speaker 1: trace favorite till tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Clutter row. You heard it here first, have a great time,

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Speaker 3: turn up, Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember check out our show

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Speaker 2: No Trikes.

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