WEBVTT - Draft Show: Closing the Book 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:09.760 Isth Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:14.000 insider news and draft analysis from deep within the confines 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:16.800 of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:19.320 And now your host. 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:20.480 Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.480 Today is Tuesday, April twenty ninth, twenty twenty five, and 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:32.280 we are three days following the NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin. 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:35.600 Welcome into the final episode of the twenty twenty five 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:39.879 version of the Draft Show. We've got Bobby Belt, Brian 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:42.199 brought us, Chris Beam in the back, and right up 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:48.839 here front and center, the stylish, the profiling, the vatch, Lombardi. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.000 What's up, dude, Yeah, you gotta turn around. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:53.920 Well, we got a podcast to do. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.080 Is that Vocher? Is that a crime boss from Sin City? Too? 0:00:58.520 --> 0:00:58.720 Listen? 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:03.920 Man, you know, uh, we had a dress code Friday 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.040 and Saturday, and I had I had plans to you know, 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.240 put all my little all my little fits together and 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.319 apparently Middle Light pays a lot of money for us. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:12.800 Well on Polo, you know what I'm. 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:14.440 Saying, So getting your money's worth right now. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.039 They get I'm getting these fits off brown bro. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:17.640 It look good. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.760 So we're gonna do this one. And I got the 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.080 break tomorrow. I'm gonna wear another one on the damn 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.280 break tomorrow and then we're going right back. Take a 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:24.759 T shirt. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.000 You're look you there. 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:30.119 You made an appearance on Talking Cowboys today, you worked 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.280 your way in for the final Draft show, and now 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:33.279 you're on the break tomorrow. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.840 The rent do, Calum, do what you gotta do. I 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:37.480 respect it. 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.839 Also these draft pins, by the way, that the lapel pins. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.280 Hey Vach had those custom made for all of us 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.040 that we wore throughout Super. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:45.960 Six, super cool. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:47.840 I was happy to see you wearing it on TV 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.560 when you was doing the everything I did, I had 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.360 it on because I was like, man, y'all just doing 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.360 this to be nice. Y'all really hated but oh no, 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:55.120 see I loved it. 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.360 I matched it with my ties and everything I did, 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:57.840 the whole thing. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.840 The one mistake I made was up with twenty twenty 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.600 five on This is used as next year, so I again, 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.920 it won't be a date on it. 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.240 But hey, that's okay. It looks great. It really does. 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.960 And can't wait to use it again next year. And 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.119 just put a little sharpie mark over the five. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:12.720 I'll get you in it. 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.320 They wouldn't it all right, let's break down this NFL draft. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.080 We're gonna do it by segment and we're also going 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.600 to fit in some twitter on the twenty questions as 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:21.519 that goes along. 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.880 But I want to start just generic thoughts on day one. 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.000 Then we'll go into Day two and segment two, and 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:27.519 then of course Day three and segment three. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:28.960 Brian, I'll start with you. 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.720 The Cowboys go out and get Tyler Booker, twelfth overall 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.080 pick out of Alabama. They they bring him in. Everybody 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.519 loves the guy. Everybody loves his his demeanor, his personality. 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:40.760 But from an ex's and O standpoint, it feels like 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:41.280 a fit too. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:42.560 No, it absolutely does. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:46.520 And you know this, These are the things that you know, 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:48.839 working in player personnel for as long as I did, 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.240 that you can appreciate about a draft is there was 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:55.079 a lot of conversation leading up to the actual draft 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.160 the day of would uh, you know, what particular wide 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.200 receiver be there for them or would they pay the 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.600 wide receiver position? And I have to give them some 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.040 credit here, you know, I do think that they would 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:07.639 have liked the opportunity to have. 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:08.760 Drafted Ted McMillan. 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.720 But you know, the draft is the draft and sometimes 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:13.679 players get selected before you and you have to be 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.320 able to pivot. And I think the Cowboys did a 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.760 really nice job of really following their board. I can't 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.639 stress that enough, folks how difficult that could be at times. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:28.400 But there were players between where McMillan was and maybe 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.760 the next best wide receiver. It just wasn't a slam 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.359 dunk that they were just gonna that they had both 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.280 wide receivers right there and they were going to take 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.440 And clearly Booker was very very high on their board, 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:42.400 and it absolutely that's one of the better players at 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.960 that time to select. And if you look at the situation, 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:47.680 you could say, well they. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:48.800 Drafted for need there. 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.840 Well, yeah, they drafted really, in my opinion, the best 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.560 player for them. But he absolutely can fill the need 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.160 at the right guard. So sometimes you take the best 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.320 player and it absolutely fits one of your needs. 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.120 So's it was. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.360 I give him a lot of credit for their stock 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:07.880 and the way that they were able to get to 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:09.640 their their player there in the first round. 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.600 You know, one thing we should we should feel really 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.680 decent about and give the Jones this some sort of 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.920 credit for is that they are aware of their needs. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.480 You know, Uh, there's there's this rhetoric online that oh, 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.479 we're just gonna run with the wire receivers that we have. 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.080 There's plenty of conversation going on, whether it be from 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.159 Nick Harris or Jane our got Bobby there that that 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.440 the Cowboys are looking into wide receivers. So at least 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.839 we know that they know what the problem is. Right 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.320 with that being said, if you have this mindset of 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.640 a post draft will fix everything that we need right now. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.280 Take the best dudes. I have no complaints about that. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.640 If we're having conversations about the best guys, I know 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.039 we need wide receiver. I know we like this Golden kid. 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.520 He's only had about three good games and we could 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.200 really pull from to say that we love or this 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.760 a Mecca Booger kid. He's been a wire receiver too. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.360 I get it, And maybe they may not be the 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.839 best bang for our buck. This Tyler Booker kid and 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.039 SEC football has been whooping everybody for three years. He 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.200 has a long track record of whooping NFL players for 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.200 three years. Look at those Texas teams, those Georgia teams, 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.000 all those pros that that that come from those programs 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.360 or whatnot. The Michigan's win. He lined up against those guys. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.200 He's been whooping qualified characters. And the one thing I 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.240 can say about this pick is you're gonna plug him in. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:21.640 You're gonna put him at record. I don't want to 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:25.440 hear no nonsense about well, he's a rookie, so we're 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.280 gonna play with the threes over on the other field. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.039 When we get the camp he's gonna line up with it. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.599 When when when I don't know who was who was 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.159 responsible for, but when they did that with Guiden and 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.320 and and BB, I was like, we know Guiden and 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.680 BB gonna be the starterst why are we messing around 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.760 with this. I need to see Tyler Booker versus Osa immediately. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:44.800 I need to see him versus Mazi and those characters 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.920 and get him in that water and get him acclimated 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:48.520 because he's gonna be a Day one guy for us. 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.840 He's a Day one guy for us, and just as 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.720 a as a as a player, that's gonna come in 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.640 and he's gonna move a gap for us. He's gonna 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.000 move be gap for us. He's gonna help Terrence Steele 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.200 give get back to his old life. I think this 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.960 offensive line is be fantastic. I've even named him the 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.000 mall of America. You know, you ma all people, all 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.760 of Americas fire because we're about to move people. And 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.520 Clay bad and look, Clay Nabs came out and said it, man, 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.279 look all this. I'm not about making guys do stuff 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:14.720 that they're not good at. You know, I don't want 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.400 to pin and pull these guys if they're not pinning 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.040 pool guys. Tan Tyler Guidon could play tight end. Let 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.680 him pull but let but let Tyler Booker be the 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.120 pind let him be the whoop guy. And I think 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:25.960 that this coaching staff has a really good idea about 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:27.039 how to use him. It's gonna be fun. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.279 The only place that nickname would be better would be 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.960 if Minnesota had a badass offensive line. Hey, if the 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.799 Vikings had to be sick offensive line, that's. 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.760 A great But we're America's team. Yeah, so the mall 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.840 of America. So the mall of America's team. No, it's 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:42.280 too long. 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.120 Yeah, you're trying to sounds like a fortune where it's 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:51.280 before and after. Now look, I mean, the biggest complaint 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.919 you heard from, but I think everybody, even those who 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.560 didn't want Booker initially, which I think was just out 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.719 of a lot of fans. It was just they didn't 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.920 have a fareness of who he was or he wasn't 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:03.400 one of the ones we focused on as much as 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.520 McMillan and others, and so I think that was part 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.200 of it. Then there's another group that just didn't like 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.080 the position being taken. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.120 Position value. 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.840 I think on the front of the position, I'm going 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.480 to take issue with anybody who has gone after the 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.400 position itself. I understand if you wanted something else, but 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.040 I'm still going to take issue with it, cause here's 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:25.160 the thing. He's going to start immediately. He's going to 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.600 be better than what you had. So if you can 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.760 take a rookie and put them in your lineup and 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.200 say we're better than the veterans who are there, it 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.760 was a need regardless. I don't care if you had 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:35.880 a body there, It was a need if you can 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.480 put a rookie in there and they can start right away. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.040 And the other thing is when people are talking about 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.520 what's the value of a guard at number twelve, I'll 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.880 tell you what like guard today is not guard fifteen 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:45.760 years ago. A gap pressure is how teams try to 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.440 get to quarterbacks. Now, a gap pressure is how you 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.440 in this league where they're trying to get the ball 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:51.840 out in two two and a half seconds, that's the 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:53.720 quickest route to the quarterback is through the A gap. 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.440 If you're leaking in the A gap or in the 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.520 beginn you've got massive problems as an offensive line, and 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.720 this is an offensive line that did have problems with that, 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.560 including when Zach Martin was in their last year. Zach 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:07.400 Martin didn't play. Particularly Tyler Booker not first career, but 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:11.320 Tyler Booker next year, I'm confident will be better than 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.560 what Zach Martin was giving you last year. Sure, and 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:15.480 what you got in general from the offensive line at 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.160 that spot last year. So Booker helps them right away. 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.960 I think he's the highest careers Brian, the highest floor 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.720 offensive lineman they've picked since Zach Martin in terms of 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:27.760 not that he equals Zach Martin, but that you're talking 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.600 about somebody ready to come in and start now as 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.080 a rookie. The last guy they had like that was 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.680 Zach Martin. So I think he's really strong across the board. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.079 I think he's got the potential to be a Pro 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.800 Bowl player. And you're talking about somebody who when the 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.200 stack was tight and they looked for the tie breakers 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.679 of character and leadership and things like that. He blew 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.520 everybody else out of the water. You know, you hear 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.880 from the Scouts, you hear from Schottenheimer. Their offensive line 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.439 coach at Alabama, Chris kapelovic I had reached out to 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.199 him on Thursday night and he said, he's the best 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.400 leader he's ever coached in his football career. He's a 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.040 top tier in his preparation. So to me, you're getting 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.920 everything that Shoddy has preached as the number one issue 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.360 for them since January, since he got here, and you're feeling, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.560 what is a need if a rookie's starting there? It 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:12.200 was a need. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.880 I think that we were guilty here on our end 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.240 of it though, too, And I think as a media 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.240 or the Scout media that, especially with this football team, 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.880 we talked a lot about wide receivers. We really hammered 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.160 it here. I mean we you know, it was every day. 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.440 It seemed like we were talking about McMillan. We were 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.679 talking about Golden, we were talking about Abuka, we were 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.040 talking about Yeah. 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:34.480 Sure we did. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.840 We talked about Booker and stuff like that. But we 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.000 didn't talk about it in the way you know of this, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.079 you know. They they looked at it as sure, we're 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.320 going to just draft our board. You guys can talk 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.920 about that wide receiver room all you want. And you know, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:53.360 and and I think that we conditioned fans to to think. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.800 Wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver. You know. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:59.600 So I feel like, to me, where we we were 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.680 able to to come back and talk about, well, here's 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.280 Booker and here's how he fits and this is what 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:04.080 he's able to do. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:06.160 But there was so much. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.960 Wide receiver talk, and I think the fans were just thinking, like, 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.720 that's what it's going to be, and their their expectations 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:16.120 of that was to be that. So I feel guilty 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.640 in a way of just of hammering that point. But 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.000 I also felt like that we did have some discussions 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.600 about Booker and exactly the type of player he is, 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:26.880 and uh, you know, but I, like I said, I 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.200 give them a lot of credit for the way they 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.520 stacked their board and the way that they appeared like 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.200 they didn't jump any tags to go get this player. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.120 And they think a lot of them And as Bobby 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.240 and Boch just said this, this guy will come in 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:40.199 and he'll do a fine job. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.360 Yeah, And I think I don't think you should feel 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.360 bad about positioning the wide receiver to Need. That was 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.760 very clearly their top meets Steven identified Yeah, still is 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:49.640 their top meat and I'm. 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:51.760 Going to address it elsewhere, but I just felt like 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:53.600 we really hammered it though. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.400 Well, that was their target. Mc millan was their target. 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.600 Here's the thing I think that's important too for people 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.440 who are that's still their top me If they would 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:01.800 have had somebody that was in the range that was 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.760 close to Booker, I think they picked a receiver. I 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.880 think what that is a testimony to is Golden and 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:12.920 Booker were not close. If it was close, if they 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.920 were a little yeah, they were a little below them. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.000 I think they take the receiver because they go, hey, 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.080 it's close enough that we do have this as a need, 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.640 a bigger need. But I think we've seen enough of 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.199 how frequently the scouting staff has been right in their 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.120 evaluations of players that to me, if they have somebody 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.840 uncomfortably separated from the guy they picked and the only 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.360 reason to take them is a need and chat, then 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.080 to me, I wouldn't want them doing. 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.240 That also to just around Cowboy Nation, Twitter online and 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.000 all this kind of stuff. I think one of the 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.600 biggest disagreements that happened was is that there were some 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.920 Cowboy fans that thought that brock Hoffman was the first 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.280 team guy. And I like Brock Coffin man, no dish 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.840 better Brock Coffin, But the Cowboys just don't see it 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.079 that way. Last year, the conversation was all right, Hoffman 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:58.880 can be a starting center for you, and the Cowboys 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.160 immediately say we can be. I mean, we moved him center. 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:02.680 That's it, that is it. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.439 He was better in training camp to start the whole 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.480 first two weeks of training camp, brock Hoffman was better, 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:09.760 and they still moved Cooper. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.640 B b still moved. And now the narrative this year 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.839 wasn't you can see it online. Hey we are fine 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.199 at right guard. Hey, Zach's retiring, but we're gonna put 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:16.640 Brock in there. 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:17.360 We're gonna move. 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.200 Right on from Brock. This tells you what they really 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.480 think Brock is. And I'll give him credit. He's probably 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:26.360 the best interior swing backup center you can find in 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.760 this guard center in this league. But I think they 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.559 just wanted a little more juice. They just want a 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.520 little more. And this will tell you that they looked 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.800 at right guard as a need, like they looked at 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.839 wide receiver as a need, like they looked at corner. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.080 I think you saw brock Hoffin is absolute best for 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:42.280 five six games. 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.640 Yeah, that's where you see brock Hoffin at his best. 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.480 I don't know if they really thought that seventeen games 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.240 was going to be the best for them with them playing. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.360 That he's a unit player, like brock Hoffmin's strength comes 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.040 in how he contributes to the entire unit rather than 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.679 as an individual player. He definitely gave them something in 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.480 terms of an edge and the physicality. And I have 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.480 more respect for brock Hoffman than than a lot of 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.559 players in this league. Not that I disrespect, but like, 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:08.959 I just hold him in high regard for the work 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.120 ethic that that guy has. Is awesome, toughness about the 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.400 commitment to the team, the willingness to do whatever. I 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.000 think he's somebody that I want him here in this 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.040 building for as long as he's going to be playing, 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.920 because I think he brings something that you need. I 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.480 think it's also important to remember that you do have 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.480 a new offensive line coach and one of the biggest 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.440 fans of Brock Coffin in this building was Mike Silari, 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:28.880 who's not right? 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:29.240 You're here? 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.080 Yeah, Now a lot of guys are in that boat 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:32.400 right now. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.240 Absolutely, in a lot of different positions. 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:35.719 Absolutely, we'll talk about it. 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.000 There's it's going to continue through the offseason and into 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:39.439 training camp. 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.360 Sega, segma going to be fired. I'm going to. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.600 Talk about the last thing on Booker and a lot 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.800 of the disagreement that that Bobby was mentioning earlier that 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:54.280 fans and media have is where Booker aligned on the 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:58.080 consensus board compared to where he ended up going at twelve. 0:13:58.080 --> 0:13:59.880 A lot of people were saying he was thirty one, 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.880 thirty two on these consensus boards, these media boards. And 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.240 I said it on Talking Cowboys. I'll say it again 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.000 here just because I'm not going to discredit the work 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.439 that the media scats do, because you and I we 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.760 all know how much work we put into it, how 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.280 much film we watch, how many notes we take. All 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.480 of that is great, and it's an opinion that was 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.560 across the board that Tyler Booker would have been a 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.200 lower first round pick. But at the end of the day, 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.000 our opinion is one thing. Their opinion is another and 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:28.920 their opinion was that he was a first round player, 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:30.880 and they stuck to their board and went with. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.000 I think the biggest problem that people have real quick, Bobby, 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:34.520 is that maybe the athletic ability. 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:36.280 Maybe that's the biggest. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.120 Question already asked scores pretty people are like, they're taking 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.160 those metrics and they're they're honestly holding it against the kid. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.800 Whereas watch will tape. You watch the film, He's kicking 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:46.760 LSU's ass. He's kicking floor in his ass. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:48.800 That's just so miss. I actually made a highlight tape 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:52.120 it's on my Twitter right now of Tyler Booker climbing 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.760 to the second level pulling black and ins black and line. 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.160 Though that's the question, that's the question I think that 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.400 people had that that is the sky an athletic because 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.960 we're hearing the element of pin and polls and things 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.600 like that, and then we have the opportunity to interview 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.840 the coaches and they're saying, listen, we will adjust to 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:12.000 whatever we have, you know, and then immediately that's like, okay, 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:13.800 they're not going to try and force anything here. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.920 And Tyler Booker, it is a really really good pick. 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.560 It really do I want Booker lead blocking around the 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.480 edge consistently. No, I don't, but but like I'm like, 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.800 I mean, he's not he's not an elite athlete. That's true. 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.880 But I will say part of it's funny to me. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.400 I think if you watch his tape against or with Alabama, 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.960 part of it is also he's trying to beat Jalen 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:41.040 Milroe to the spot and hellows so fast, like like, 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.160 I mean, you want him to pull and get there 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.080 before Milroe does. Like that's partially going to be what's 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:47.560 happening there. 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:48.280 Uh. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.560 Second, I think that to the point of consensus. I 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.200 talked to people from three different teams outside of Dallas, 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:56.640 and they all said they thought Booker was going to 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:57.400 go on the top twenty. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:57.840 Wow. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:15:59.960 The league thought he was a top twenty. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.160 I had a scout from another team that the night 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.400 of the draft when he was selected, this scout who 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.600 has that area told me he says, that was one 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.920 of my favorite players to scout this year, just overall, 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.120 the player, the type of person he was, everything about it, 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.040 and you know, and that was very very encouraged that 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:17.720 when the Cowboy scout told me that was a guy 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.640 from another team that was He's like, man, you guys 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:21.960 got you a great one there. 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.840 I heard, But I could be wrong. But wasn't Houston 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:26.200 trying to trade up to get Booker? 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.600 Like like were trading up for an offensive lineman. I 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.760 don't know if it was Booker or not. I never 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.000 heard specifically outside of that on you or something different. 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.360 I hadn't heard who they were coming up for. I 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:36.840 just knew they were. They were coming up. They were 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.360 trying to come up. It's just too big a drop. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.520 It's probably gonna be Booker because all the other offensive 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.400 linemen were going at that point. It was Booker and 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.520 Donovana Jackson that was left over that you would think 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.680