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Speaker 4: Today is Tuesday, April twenty ninth, twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 4: we are three days following the NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Speaker 4: Welcome into the final episode of the twenty twenty five
Speaker 4: version of the Draft Show. We've got Bobby Belt, Brian
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Speaker 2: They wouldn't it all right, let's break down this NFL draft.
Speaker 4: We're gonna do it by segment and we're also going
Speaker 4: to fit in some twitter on the twenty questions as
Speaker 4: that goes along.
Speaker 2: But I want to start just generic thoughts on day one.
Speaker 4: Then we'll go into Day two and segment two, and
Speaker 4: then of course Day three and segment three.
Speaker 2: Brian, I'll start with you.
Speaker 4: The Cowboys go out and get Tyler Booker, twelfth overall
Speaker 4: pick out of Alabama. They they bring him in. Everybody
Speaker 4: loves the guy. Everybody loves his his demeanor, his personality.
Speaker 4: But from an ex's and O standpoint, it feels like
Speaker 4: a fit too.
Speaker 7: No, it absolutely does.
Speaker 8: And you know this, These are the things that you know,
Speaker 8: working in player personnel for as long as I did,
Speaker 8: that you can appreciate about a draft is there was
Speaker 8: a lot of conversation leading up to the actual draft
Speaker 8: the day of would uh, you know, what particular wide
Speaker 8: receiver be there for them or would they pay the
Speaker 8: wide receiver position? And I have to give them some
Speaker 8: credit here, you know, I do think that they would
Speaker 8: have liked the opportunity to have.
Speaker 7: Drafted Ted McMillan.
Speaker 8: But you know, the draft is the draft and sometimes
Speaker 8: players get selected before you and you have to be
Speaker 8: able to pivot. And I think the Cowboys did a
Speaker 8: really nice job of really following their board. I can't
Speaker 8: stress that enough, folks how difficult that could be at times.
Speaker 8: But there were players between where McMillan was and maybe
Speaker 8: the next best wide receiver. It just wasn't a slam
Speaker 8: dunk that they were just gonna that they had both
Speaker 8: wide receivers right there and they were going to take
Speaker 8: And clearly Booker was very very high on their board,
Speaker 8: and it absolutely that's one of the better players at
Speaker 8: that time to select. And if you look at the situation,
Speaker 8: you could say, well they.
Speaker 2: Drafted for need there.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, they drafted really, in my opinion, the best
Speaker 8: player for them. But he absolutely can fill the need
Speaker 8: at the right guard. So sometimes you take the best
Speaker 8: player and it absolutely fits one of your needs.
Speaker 7: So's it was.
Speaker 8: I give him a lot of credit for their stock
Speaker 8: and the way that they were able to get to
Speaker 8: their their player there in the first round.
Speaker 3: You know, one thing we should we should feel really
Speaker 3: decent about and give the Jones this some sort of
Speaker 3: credit for is that they are aware of their needs.
Speaker 3: You know, Uh, there's there's this rhetoric online that oh,
Speaker 3: we're just gonna run with the wire receivers that we have.
Speaker 3: There's plenty of conversation going on, whether it be from
Speaker 3: Nick Harris or Jane our got Bobby there that that
Speaker 3: the Cowboys are looking into wide receivers. So at least
Speaker 3: we know that they know what the problem is. Right
Speaker 3: with that being said, if you have this mindset of
Speaker 3: a post draft will fix everything that we need right now.
Speaker 3: Take the best dudes. I have no complaints about that.
Speaker 3: If we're having conversations about the best guys, I know
Speaker 3: we need wide receiver. I know we like this Golden kid.
Speaker 3: He's only had about three good games and we could
Speaker 3: really pull from to say that we love or this
Speaker 3: a Mecca Booger kid. He's been a wire receiver too.
Speaker 3: I get it, And maybe they may not be the
Speaker 3: best bang for our buck. This Tyler Booker kid and
Speaker 3: SEC football has been whooping everybody for three years. He
Speaker 3: has a long track record of whooping NFL players for
Speaker 3: three years. Look at those Texas teams, those Georgia teams,
Speaker 3: all those pros that that that come from those programs
Speaker 3: or whatnot. The Michigan's win. He lined up against those guys.
Speaker 3: He's been whooping qualified characters. And the one thing I
Speaker 3: can say about this pick is you're gonna plug him in.
Speaker 3: You're gonna put him at record. I don't want to
Speaker 3: hear no nonsense about well, he's a rookie, so we're
Speaker 3: gonna play with the threes over on the other field.
Speaker 3: When we get the camp he's gonna line up with it.
Speaker 3: When when when I don't know who was who was
Speaker 3: responsible for, but when they did that with Guiden and
Speaker 3: and and BB, I was like, we know Guiden and
Speaker 3: BB gonna be the starterst why are we messing around
Speaker 3: with this. I need to see Tyler Booker versus Osa immediately.
Speaker 3: I need to see him versus Mazi and those characters
Speaker 3: and get him in that water and get him acclimated
Speaker 3: because he's gonna be a Day one guy for us.
Speaker 3: He's a Day one guy for us, and just as
Speaker 3: a as a as a player, that's gonna come in
Speaker 3: and he's gonna move a gap for us. He's gonna
Speaker 3: move be gap for us. He's gonna help Terrence Steele
Speaker 3: give get back to his old life. I think this
Speaker 3: offensive line is be fantastic. I've even named him the
Speaker 3: mall of America. You know, you ma all people, all
Speaker 3: of Americas fire because we're about to move people. And
Speaker 3: Clay bad and look, Clay Nabs came out and said it, man,
Speaker 3: look all this. I'm not about making guys do stuff
Speaker 3: that they're not good at. You know, I don't want
Speaker 3: to pin and pull these guys if they're not pinning
Speaker 3: pool guys. Tan Tyler Guidon could play tight end. Let
Speaker 3: him pull but let but let Tyler Booker be the
Speaker 3: pind let him be the whoop guy. And I think
Speaker 3: that this coaching staff has a really good idea about
Speaker 3: how to use him. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4: The only place that nickname would be better would be
Speaker 4: if Minnesota had a badass offensive line. Hey, if the
Speaker 4: Vikings had to be sick offensive line, that's.
Speaker 3: A great But we're America's team. Yeah, so the mall
Speaker 3: of America. So the mall of America's team. No, it's
Speaker 3: too long.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're trying to sounds like a fortune where it's
Speaker 5: before and after. Now look, I mean, the biggest complaint
Speaker 5: you heard from, but I think everybody, even those who
Speaker 5: didn't want Booker initially, which I think was just out
Speaker 5: of a lot of fans. It was just they didn't
Speaker 5: have a fareness of who he was or he wasn't
Speaker 5: one of the ones we focused on as much as
Speaker 5: McMillan and others, and so I think that was part
Speaker 5: of it. Then there's another group that just didn't like
Speaker 5: the position being taken.
Speaker 2: Position value.
Speaker 5: I think on the front of the position, I'm going
Speaker 5: to take issue with anybody who has gone after the
Speaker 5: position itself. I understand if you wanted something else, but
Speaker 5: I'm still going to take issue with it, cause here's
Speaker 5: the thing. He's going to start immediately. He's going to
Speaker 5: be better than what you had. So if you can
Speaker 5: take a rookie and put them in your lineup and
Speaker 5: say we're better than the veterans who are there, it
Speaker 5: was a need regardless. I don't care if you had
Speaker 5: a body there, It was a need if you can
Speaker 5: put a rookie in there and they can start right away.
Speaker 5: And the other thing is when people are talking about
Speaker 5: what's the value of a guard at number twelve, I'll
Speaker 5: tell you what like guard today is not guard fifteen
Speaker 5: years ago. A gap pressure is how teams try to
Speaker 5: get to quarterbacks. Now, a gap pressure is how you
Speaker 5: in this league where they're trying to get the ball
Speaker 5: out in two two and a half seconds, that's the
Speaker 5: quickest route to the quarterback is through the A gap.
Speaker 5: If you're leaking in the A gap or in the
Speaker 5: beginn you've got massive problems as an offensive line, and
Speaker 5: this is an offensive line that did have problems with that,
Speaker 5: including when Zach Martin was in their last year. Zach
Speaker 5: Martin didn't play. Particularly Tyler Booker not first career, but
Speaker 5: Tyler Booker next year, I'm confident will be better than
Speaker 5: what Zach Martin was giving you last year. Sure, and
Speaker 5: what you got in general from the offensive line at
Speaker 5: that spot last year. So Booker helps them right away.
Speaker 5: I think he's the highest careers Brian, the highest floor
Speaker 5: offensive lineman they've picked since Zach Martin in terms of
Speaker 5: not that he equals Zach Martin, but that you're talking
Speaker 5: about somebody ready to come in and start now as
Speaker 5: a rookie. The last guy they had like that was
Speaker 5: Zach Martin. So I think he's really strong across the board.
Speaker 5: I think he's got the potential to be a Pro
Speaker 5: Bowl player. And you're talking about somebody who when the
Speaker 5: stack was tight and they looked for the tie breakers
Speaker 5: of character and leadership and things like that. He blew
Speaker 5: everybody else out of the water. You know, you hear
Speaker 5: from the Scouts, you hear from Schottenheimer. Their offensive line
Speaker 5: coach at Alabama, Chris kapelovic I had reached out to
Speaker 5: him on Thursday night and he said, he's the best
Speaker 5: leader he's ever coached in his football career. He's a
Speaker 5: top tier in his preparation. So to me, you're getting
Speaker 5: everything that Shoddy has preached as the number one issue
Speaker 5: for them since January, since he got here, and you're feeling,
Speaker 5: what is a need if a rookie's starting there? It
Speaker 5: was a need.
Speaker 8: I think that we were guilty here on our end
Speaker 8: of it though, too, And I think as a media
Speaker 8: or the Scout media that, especially with this football team,
Speaker 8: we talked a lot about wide receivers. We really hammered
Speaker 8: it here. I mean we you know, it was every day.
Speaker 8: It seemed like we were talking about McMillan. We were
Speaker 8: talking about Golden, we were talking about Abuka, we were
Speaker 8: talking about Yeah.
Speaker 7: Sure we did.
Speaker 8: We talked about Booker and stuff like that. But we
Speaker 8: didn't talk about it in the way you know of this,
Speaker 8: you know. They they looked at it as sure, we're
Speaker 8: going to just draft our board. You guys can talk
Speaker 8: about that wide receiver room all you want. And you know,
Speaker 8: and and I think that we conditioned fans to to think.
Speaker 7: Wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver. You know.
Speaker 8: So I feel like, to me, where we we were
Speaker 8: able to to come back and talk about, well, here's
Speaker 8: Booker and here's how he fits and this is what
Speaker 8: he's able to do.
Speaker 7: But there was so much.
Speaker 8: Wide receiver talk, and I think the fans were just thinking, like,
Speaker 8: that's what it's going to be, and their their expectations
Speaker 8: of that was to be that. So I feel guilty
Speaker 8: in a way of just of hammering that point. But
Speaker 8: I also felt like that we did have some discussions
Speaker 8: about Booker and exactly the type of player he is,
Speaker 8: and uh, you know, but I, like I said, I
Speaker 8: give them a lot of credit for the way they
Speaker 8: stacked their board and the way that they appeared like
Speaker 8: they didn't jump any tags to go get this player.
Speaker 8: And they think a lot of them And as Bobby
Speaker 8: and Boch just said this, this guy will come in
Speaker 8: and he'll do a fine job.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think I don't think you should feel
Speaker 5: bad about positioning the wide receiver to Need. That was
Speaker 5: very clearly their top meets Steven identified Yeah, still is
Speaker 5: their top meat and I'm.
Speaker 8: Going to address it elsewhere, but I just felt like
Speaker 8: we really hammered it though.
Speaker 5: Well, that was their target. Mc millan was their target.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing I think that's important too for people
Speaker 5: who are that's still their top me If they would
Speaker 5: have had somebody that was in the range that was
Speaker 5: close to Booker, I think they picked a receiver. I
Speaker 5: think what that is a testimony to is Golden and
Speaker 5: Booker were not close. If it was close, if they
Speaker 5: were a little yeah, they were a little below them.
Speaker 5: I think they take the receiver because they go, hey,
Speaker 5: it's close enough that we do have this as a need,
Speaker 5: a bigger need. But I think we've seen enough of
Speaker 5: how frequently the scouting staff has been right in their
Speaker 5: evaluations of players that to me, if they have somebody
Speaker 5: uncomfortably separated from the guy they picked and the only
Speaker 5: reason to take them is a need and chat, then
Speaker 5: to me, I wouldn't want them doing.
Speaker 3: That also to just around Cowboy Nation, Twitter online and
Speaker 3: all this kind of stuff. I think one of the
Speaker 3: biggest disagreements that happened was is that there were some
Speaker 3: Cowboy fans that thought that brock Hoffman was the first
Speaker 3: team guy. And I like Brock Coffin man, no dish
Speaker 3: better Brock Coffin, But the Cowboys just don't see it
Speaker 3: that way. Last year, the conversation was all right, Hoffman
Speaker 3: can be a starting center for you, and the Cowboys
Speaker 3: immediately say we can be. I mean, we moved him center.
Speaker 3: That's it, that is it.
Speaker 4: He was better in training camp to start the whole
Speaker 4: first two weeks of training camp, brock Hoffman was better,
Speaker 4: and they still moved Cooper.
Speaker 3: B b still moved. And now the narrative this year
Speaker 3: wasn't you can see it online. Hey we are fine
Speaker 3: at right guard. Hey, Zach's retiring, but we're gonna put
Speaker 3: Brock in there.
Speaker 2: We're gonna move.
Speaker 3: Right on from Brock. This tells you what they really
Speaker 3: think Brock is. And I'll give him credit. He's probably
Speaker 3: the best interior swing backup center you can find in
Speaker 3: this guard center in this league. But I think they
Speaker 3: just wanted a little more juice. They just want a
Speaker 3: little more. And this will tell you that they looked
Speaker 3: at right guard as a need, like they looked at
Speaker 3: wide receiver as a need, like they looked at corner.
Speaker 8: I think you saw brock Hoffin is absolute best for
Speaker 8: five six games.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's where you see brock Hoffin at his best.
Speaker 8: I don't know if they really thought that seventeen games
Speaker 8: was going to be the best for them with them playing.
Speaker 5: That he's a unit player, like brock Hoffmin's strength comes
Speaker 5: in how he contributes to the entire unit rather than
Speaker 5: as an individual player. He definitely gave them something in
Speaker 5: terms of an edge and the physicality. And I have
Speaker 5: more respect for brock Hoffman than than a lot of
Speaker 5: players in this league. Not that I disrespect, but like,
Speaker 5: I just hold him in high regard for the work
Speaker 5: ethic that that guy has. Is awesome, toughness about the
Speaker 5: commitment to the team, the willingness to do whatever. I
Speaker 5: think he's somebody that I want him here in this
Speaker 5: building for as long as he's going to be playing,
Speaker 5: because I think he brings something that you need. I
Speaker 5: think it's also important to remember that you do have
Speaker 5: a new offensive line coach and one of the biggest
Speaker 5: fans of Brock Coffin in this building was Mike Silari,
Speaker 5: who's not right?
Speaker 7: You're here?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Now a lot of guys are in that boat
Speaker 8: right now.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, in a lot of different positions.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 4: There's it's going to continue through the offseason and into
Speaker 4: training camp.
Speaker 3: Sega, segma going to be fired. I'm going to.
Speaker 4: Talk about the last thing on Booker and a lot
Speaker 4: of the disagreement that that Bobby was mentioning earlier that
Speaker 4: fans and media have is where Booker aligned on the
Speaker 4: consensus board compared to where he ended up going at twelve.
Speaker 4: A lot of people were saying he was thirty one,
Speaker 4: thirty two on these consensus boards, these media boards. And
Speaker 4: I said it on Talking Cowboys. I'll say it again
Speaker 4: here just because I'm not going to discredit the work
Speaker 4: that the media scats do, because you and I we
Speaker 4: all know how much work we put into it, how
Speaker 4: much film we watch, how many notes we take. All
Speaker 4: of that is great, and it's an opinion that was
Speaker 4: across the board that Tyler Booker would have been a
Speaker 4: lower first round pick. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: our opinion is one thing. Their opinion is another and
Speaker 4: their opinion was that he was a first round player,
Speaker 4: and they stuck to their board and went with.
Speaker 8: I think the biggest problem that people have real quick, Bobby,
Speaker 8: is that maybe the athletic ability.
Speaker 7: Maybe that's the biggest.
Speaker 8: Question already asked scores pretty people are like, they're taking
Speaker 8: those metrics and they're they're honestly holding it against the kid.
Speaker 8: Whereas watch will tape. You watch the film, He's kicking
Speaker 8: LSU's ass. He's kicking floor in his ass.
Speaker 3: That's just so miss. I actually made a highlight tape
Speaker 3: it's on my Twitter right now of Tyler Booker climbing
Speaker 3: to the second level pulling black and ins black and line.
Speaker 8: Though that's the question, that's the question I think that
Speaker 8: people had that that is the sky an athletic because
Speaker 8: we're hearing the element of pin and polls and things
Speaker 8: like that, and then we have the opportunity to interview
Speaker 8: the coaches and they're saying, listen, we will adjust to
Speaker 8: whatever we have, you know, and then immediately that's like, okay,
Speaker 8: they're not going to try and force anything here.
Speaker 7: And Tyler Booker, it is a really really good pick.
Speaker 5: It really do I want Booker lead blocking around the
Speaker 5: edge consistently. No, I don't, but but like I'm like,
Speaker 5: I mean, he's not he's not an elite athlete. That's true.
Speaker 5: But I will say part of it's funny to me.
Speaker 5: I think if you watch his tape against or with Alabama,
Speaker 5: part of it is also he's trying to beat Jalen
Speaker 5: Milroe to the spot and hellows so fast, like like,
Speaker 5: I mean, you want him to pull and get there
Speaker 5: before Milroe does. Like that's partially going to be what's
Speaker 5: happening there.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Second, I think that to the point of consensus. I
Speaker 5: talked to people from three different teams outside of Dallas,
Speaker 5: and they all said they thought Booker was going to
Speaker 5: go on the top twenty.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: The league thought he was a top twenty.
Speaker 8: I had a scout from another team that the night
Speaker 8: of the draft when he was selected, this scout who
Speaker 8: has that area told me he says, that was one
Speaker 8: of my favorite players to scout this year, just overall,
Speaker 8: the player, the type of person he was, everything about it,
Speaker 8: and you know, and that was very very encouraged that
Speaker 8: when the Cowboy scout told me that was a guy
Speaker 8: from another team that was He's like, man, you guys
Speaker 8: got you a great one there.
Speaker 3: I heard, But I could be wrong. But wasn't Houston
Speaker 3: trying to trade up to get Booker?
Speaker 4: Like like were trading up for an offensive lineman. I
Speaker 4: don't know if it was Booker or not. I never
Speaker 4: heard specifically outside of that on you or something different.
Speaker 5: I hadn't heard who they were coming up for. I
Speaker 5: just knew they were. They were coming up. They were
Speaker 5: trying to come up. It's just too big a drop.
Speaker 3: It's probably gonna be Booker because all the other offensive
Speaker 3: linemen were going at that point. It was Booker and
Speaker 3: Donovana Jackson that was left over that you would think
Speaker 3: that they would take seriously enough to take it as well.
Speaker 8: I mean, the whole thing was Simmons. It didn't sound
Speaker 8: like to me with the Simmons stuff, it wasn't so
Speaker 8: much about the knee. It was about maybe the character stuff.
Speaker 8: That was the thing that ultimately got him. Where did
Speaker 8: he end up going first round? That was the kitching
Speaker 8: Andy Reid pick.
Speaker 3: That was what it was.
Speaker 2: He had himself a.
Speaker 5: Dress New Cincinnati, Kansas City, and the care. I just
Speaker 5: don't see how you could how you could.
Speaker 7: Watch them in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: I don't see how you could look at that film,
Speaker 3: Booker's film. I don't see how you could look at
Speaker 3: it and thoroughly examine it and not come away fully
Speaker 3: impressed with it. Like some like I get it, man,
Speaker 3: some players got warts on film. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But if you watch him versus the I'm gonna keep
Speaker 3: saying this versus the competition that he's playing again, I
Speaker 3: got film of him picking up to Andre Sweat and
Speaker 3: dropping him on his head. It exists. It's out there,
Speaker 3: bro man, watch a little bit of film. I think
Speaker 3: this is as clean as a big as you can get.
Speaker 3: And yeah, if you're a team, you asked him to
Speaker 3: do wide zone, so yeah, sure. But Clayton Adam saying
Speaker 3: that we moving line of scrimmage and do one, I
Speaker 3: think this slam slammed up for the player.
Speaker 5: And if you want to talk about somebody who had
Speaker 5: to face the most complex defensive fronts, and Blitz looks
Speaker 5: that the sec or that football really has to offer
Speaker 5: the college level. He saw it consistently against Georgia. The
Speaker 5: stuff that Kirby Smart does with late shifts and everything
Speaker 5: else are the type of things that gave Texas Hell
Speaker 5: in the first game that couldn't protect when you weres
Speaker 5: because of it, And it's the same sort of stuff.
Speaker 5: Those sort of shifts are the same problems that give
Speaker 5: NFL team's problem with communication. He's prepared for it. He's
Speaker 5: gone up against all your big time SEC defensive tackles
Speaker 5: for years, the Jordan Davises and people like that who
Speaker 5: are up in the NFL. Now that those are the
Speaker 5: type of players he's gone against and handled as an
Speaker 5: All American.
Speaker 4: Really excited to see how he fits in. Because we're
Speaker 4: talking about the ex's and o's, we're still not even
Speaker 4: talking about the person that he is.
Speaker 3: How impressive is this.
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. I've never seen anything like it. The way
Speaker 4: that he interacts with people, coaches, front office, just regular
Speaker 4: staff members, media. I mean, it's really impressive.
Speaker 3: So I'll saying on on YouTube everything that he says,
Speaker 3: I just believe him, Like he's a believable guy. I remember,
Speaker 3: I'm not even going to say the player that plays
Speaker 3: here right now, but his press conference last year, right
Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, man, you know, I just I
Speaker 3: like to hurt people like the people. Man, I'm just
Speaker 3: physical like that, and I'm like, bro, yo, your film
Speaker 3: don't even say that? Why why you line with us
Speaker 3: right now by the home time? About like, bro, your
Speaker 3: film don't even say that? Why don't tell me what
Speaker 3: I want to hear? Just because there's a camera and
Speaker 3: and people watching you. It sounded sensational how he was
Speaker 3: trying to say it to us, like, Hey, I'm here now,
Speaker 3: and this is what I like to do. But Tyler Booker,
Speaker 3: very matter of factly. Look, I imagine my opponents, and
Speaker 3: I imagine what the what the what the crowd sounds like,
Speaker 3: and what the wind smells like, and what sweat tastes like.
Speaker 3: And and oh I saw number number four for l
Speaker 3: s U and I wanted to go over there and
Speaker 3: whoop me and say something to it. You can find
Speaker 3: films I posted that place. You can find film of
Speaker 3: him doing these things. You can find whooping people, even
Speaker 3: him looking for work. Bro, It is even him looking
Speaker 3: for work. It'll he'll have nobody to block and his
Speaker 3: center of being trouble. I'm gonna go over there and
Speaker 3: smoke who's ever lined up over my center? I believe
Speaker 3: him when he talks to us. This is a slam dunk.
Speaker 3: I don't want to keep selling it because it sounds like,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like I'm just doing doing
Speaker 3: too much to vouch for my guy that I've been
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, since January. So I ain't trying
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Speaker 4: We've sat on this show. I told y'all, so you
Speaker 4: were top eight, wasn't it? He was eight on eight
Speaker 4: to the We've sat on this show the Tuesday after
Speaker 4: the draft before and just been flabbergasted by picks. It's happened,
Speaker 4: and we wouldn't be afraid to say it that way.
Speaker 4: I think all of us are in consensus here that
Speaker 4: we like to pick and we like to fit. Now
Speaker 4: I think we're also inconsistence that Day two was special.
Speaker 3: Kyle, let me take so for you.
Speaker 1: Move on.
Speaker 3: If Gray's Abel would have been the pick as well,
Speaker 3: I'd be mad as hell for pot as in a row.
Speaker 3: Ain't no shame gaming, what Dave is wrong?
Speaker 4: Go ahead, gotta get over at that point, the uh,
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Speaker 4: In the third segment, Alongsidevach Lombardi, Brian brought us Bobby Belt.
Speaker 4: I'm Kyle Yowans with Chris Beam in the back. Moving
Speaker 4: on today too, the Cowboys select Donovan Azeraku edge rusher
Speaker 4: from Boston College with the forty fourth overall pick, and
Speaker 4: then at seventy six they take Savone Ravel Junior. I'm
Speaker 4: trying to rack the history books for Dallas, Brian when
Speaker 4: it comes to the draft classes that they've had where
Speaker 4: they've found as much value as they did on Day
Speaker 4: two this year.
Speaker 8: It's amazing to me and I just know looking at
Speaker 8: how I had the player stacked, it's almost not almost,
Speaker 8: it's in reverse order. The player, the third round player
Speaker 8: would have been my top player, the second round player
Speaker 8: right where he was taken, and then you know, with Booker,
Speaker 8: he would have been the third guy. But if you
Speaker 8: can tell me that I can grab three of my
Speaker 8: top players in the first thirty seven picks, you know,
Speaker 8: I'm I'm I'm totally on board with what they did here,
Speaker 8: and I think, to me, this once again is just
Speaker 8: a great example of them following their board. You know,
Speaker 8: I know, as a Roku, we've we've we've talked about him. Boy,
Speaker 8: we like him as an edge rusher and all that.
Speaker 8: Did we have him earmarked for the Dallas Cowboys? I
Speaker 8: don't think so, but you know, we talked about him. Hey,
Speaker 8: somebody's going to get this guy who's got this this
Speaker 8: elite bend and ability to finish at the quarterback and
Speaker 8: you can move him around, and so that that to me.
Speaker 8: When when that pick happened, you know, we were all
Speaker 8: kind of talking about, well, here it comes the running back,
Speaker 8: here comes the potential corner, you know. But the way
Speaker 8: that they stack their board once again, I think they
Speaker 8: got a hell of a player. And you know that's
Speaker 8: when you look at now, when you look at the
Speaker 8: group as a whole with Michael Parsons and as a
Speaker 8: Roku and Fowler, and we'll see what happens with Sam
Speaker 8: Williams and stuff. Man, they've got some legitimate edge rushers
Speaker 8: that can cause some teams problems. And they've got a
Speaker 8: couple of guys with Micah and this guy that they
Speaker 8: can move around and maybe even put on the same
Speaker 8: side to cause problems. You know, there's there's a lot
Speaker 8: of different combinations you can use with this guy's he's
Speaker 8: an outstanding player, really is.
Speaker 5: Has the statute of limitations expired on a draft board
Speaker 5: from twenty two years ago? Brian, can you identify a
Speaker 5: grade from twenty two years ago? Do you think safely?
Speaker 7: No? No, probably not.
Speaker 2: Maybe names if it's specific names.
Speaker 5: Okay, I want to say specific names. He got if
Speaker 5: we're just talking value, he got in three, Witten in
Speaker 5: the third, of Al Johnson and the second Brady James
Speaker 5: and the fourth. Were those all high guys?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Uh I if I remember Parcells the Al Johnson one
Speaker 8: because we were all sc remit it built a draft
Speaker 8: went and in the second round and we were worried,
Speaker 8: and it just happened to be a draft where it
Speaker 8: was Dallas Clark and uh, there's just all these tight
Speaker 8: ends and so you know, we're like, gosh, please that
Speaker 8: we can't do this, just pick him, and Bill's like, no, no,
Speaker 8: we've got to have the center. I got to have
Speaker 8: the center. And we just got lucky. The draft got
Speaker 8: smiled on us that day. But I think the best
Speaker 8: value of a draft that ever, in my opinion, that
Speaker 8: we had here was the five one when you start
Speaker 8: looking at Chris Canty and Ratliffe and those guys.
Speaker 2: He did a documentary over there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was that draft was special in the way
Speaker 8: that it fell for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: What about a Zeke Jalen Smith and Deck like like
Speaker 3: value as.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so post after the draft dec is going to
Speaker 5: be higher. Sure, obviously so, but like at the time,
Speaker 5: like I don't know where they would have had grated
Speaker 5: Like j Jalen was the top. He was just an
Speaker 5: injury flag.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had like a second grade, a second round
Speaker 3: grade on Deck.
Speaker 4: I was even looking at like twenty twenty like CD Lamb,
Speaker 4: trave On Niggs, Neville Gallimore. But I still don't think
Speaker 4: Gallimore had the same value on their board that of Revel.
Speaker 8: It would be it's it would be like I say,
Speaker 8: it's with Revel, how that plays is going to be
Speaker 8: That's going to be the one that could be the
Speaker 8: kicker and he could very well be the best of
Speaker 8: the three when this, you know, I'm I'm really looking
Speaker 8: forward to, you know, Britt Brown and this this medical
Speaker 8: staff getting with this kid because he wants to work,
Speaker 8: he wants to get back out on the field. And
Speaker 8: you got a guy with like a Britt Brown that
Speaker 8: will just we'll get after it and help him get there.
Speaker 8: And so you know, he's it's it's so encouraging that
Speaker 8: they got to him. I thought you were going to
Speaker 8: have to take him at forty four to get him,
Speaker 8: and the fact that they got him at seventy six,
Speaker 8: I think is I'd say the word draft guds clearly
Speaker 8: smiling on him on that pick.
Speaker 3: You know, Coach White Kiden came up and said me like, hey,
Speaker 3: we we need a lot of dudes to make this
Speaker 3: thing work. And if you think about the Cowboys two
Speaker 3: years ago when that pass was was that pass us
Speaker 3: was like really good, Dante Fowler was like the fourth guy.
Speaker 3: And now he's like our second.
Speaker 2: Guy, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So you you you have to look at pass rushing
Speaker 3: like it was a need coming into this thing. You know,
Speaker 3: we don't know what we have in Sam Man. You
Speaker 3: know we were talking about, Hey, your guys out the building. Yeah,
Speaker 3: dan Quinn's gone and Sam got hurt and he didn't
Speaker 3: even get a chance to be a part of Zimmer's administration.
Speaker 3: So so now you are two coaches removed saying wiives
Speaker 3: if you don't show up and do something expeditiously, sir,
Speaker 3: you you you are, you are under the fire. I
Speaker 3: think I think Donovan is here. I think Donovan knows
Speaker 3: how to get sacks day one. The Cowboys clearly have
Speaker 3: a type. Donovan got length, those long arms, eighty three
Speaker 3: inch wingspan, something like that. It's like ninety first for sure.
Speaker 3: And he can pass rush right now. Even if you
Speaker 3: want to set the rolls up and say, well, Mike's
Speaker 3: not gonna come off the field all too too much,
Speaker 3: you know, kneeling is your rundown guy. Peyton Turner would
Speaker 3: be a rundown guy. Even if Donovan is a rock
Speaker 3: who day one is not a full blown rundown guy.
Speaker 3: He's at least a dude that you can line up
Speaker 3: on this edge, that lineup at linebacker. You want to
Speaker 3: put Mike at linebacker, put him at edge and move
Speaker 3: all these guys around. You have day one usage with him,
Speaker 3: and I think edge was a was a bigger need
Speaker 3: than we even talked about. So that's two. That's two
Speaker 3: picks in a row where the Cowboys kind of fixing
Speaker 3: need that. While we're harping on a receiver and running back,
Speaker 3: they're thinking, Hey, if this pass rush is here, how
Speaker 3: can we not you know, take them. And there are
Speaker 3: some mid dress that had him in the first round,
Speaker 3: and you know, even Ross Winch now somebody said that
Speaker 3: they didn't think that he would even be there, like
Speaker 3: so I guess common knowledge would be and Bobby could
Speaker 3: tell us where the league had Donois. So to get
Speaker 3: him at forty four, it's a blessing man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Ezeraka was a borderline first. I think for most
Speaker 5: people in the league they thought he was going to go,
Speaker 5: and at the very least they thought he'd be one
Speaker 5: of the first off the board in the top of
Speaker 5: the second. So to get him midway through the second
Speaker 5: is definitely a good value thing. I think in terms
Speaker 5: of like stacking the defensive line depth and doing different things.
Speaker 5: I haven't looked at the tendency yet on Chicago. I
Speaker 5: will say I know that Aaron Whitecotton coming from Jets
Speaker 5: and forty nine ers philosophy and Adieberflus being brought up
Speaker 5: in Rod Marrinelli's philosophy, that is heavy defensive line rotation,
Speaker 5: that is, you are eight deep a lot of the
Speaker 5: times because there's so much that they asked them to do,
Speaker 5: get up field, get up field, just like run the motor.
Speaker 5: Run's so hot that a lot of times they want
Speaker 5: to keep fresh legs. And Marinelli's big thing was always
Speaker 5: fresh legs for the end of the game, like making
Speaker 5: sure you had guys that were not getting drained throughout
Speaker 5: the game. And so I think that that's definitely speaks
Speaker 5: to the likelyhood of a strong rotation that they're gonna
Speaker 5: run and you've got like Kneeland, Ezraku, Parsons, Williams, Fowler
Speaker 5: and so a lot of depth. There's clearly what they're
Speaker 5: looking for. I'd say one of the things that I
Speaker 5: don't know that we've talked about it really with Ezraku,
Speaker 5: but it does stand out to me when I was
Speaker 5: watching his tape, was have you noticed how frequently and
Speaker 5: even for a guy who is technically undersized, I guess,
Speaker 5: do you notice how frequently like a tackle would look
Speaker 5: like they had like vice scripted him and he'd break
Speaker 5: out of it. But like, because so frequently you see
Speaker 5: tackles when they get their hands on him, it's just
Speaker 5: demorla and edge rushers are done. He flips what looks
Speaker 5: like pass rush pass rush losses into victories like that.
Speaker 3: His it's because of his his his rush pattern, right,
Speaker 3: he doesn't just stay outside. I saw this one rush.
Speaker 3: It was against it was one of the Carolinas. Whatever,
Speaker 3: he'll rush outside, counter back inside. He'll look like he'll
Speaker 3: be beat, but he doesn't stop. Chain and moves together
Speaker 3: like he's a super nuanced pass rusher right now, on
Speaker 3: top of the idea that he's bendy, his hell.
Speaker 2: Or his arsenal is nuts.
Speaker 3: I see, I've seen this. I don't want to cuss
Speaker 3: on y'all show, but how many times have y'all seen
Speaker 3: him fake hands high? Offensive lineman put hands high and
Speaker 3: he bends his ass up under here, Like if you're
Speaker 3: a college football player, you're just not ready for that,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that yet. You know, now when you
Speaker 3: get to the lead, maybe they've seen that before. But
Speaker 3: just as a day one arsenal ready to go, you
Speaker 3: don't have to tea. And that was my biggest That
Speaker 3: was my biggest grap by Mike Hail Williams. Right, you
Speaker 3: can't have Mike Hill and come in and be like
Speaker 3: all right, time to get sacks when he hasn't done
Speaker 3: this before. Donovan gets sacks and he's not he's not
Speaker 3: running until he's not efforting his way and tol him.
Speaker 3: He's getting he's gaining him.
Speaker 8: There's so many times where we're watching these edge rushers
Speaker 8: and as they were going and I know you and
Speaker 8: I watched with our show, so I was talking about
Speaker 8: why is he going down the middle? Why is he
Speaker 8: going down the middle? Why is he going down the middle.
Speaker 8: This guy doesn't play down the middle. This guy plays
Speaker 8: underneath you, he plays around you, he attacks shoulders, he'll
Speaker 8: go inside of you.
Speaker 7: He's not gonna sit there.
Speaker 8: And that's one of the problems I had with the
Speaker 8: Texas A and m kits. I just kept felt like
Speaker 8: they were just kept rushing down the middle, down the middle,
Speaker 8: down the middle, and mikel Williams was really and watch
Speaker 8: is right the same way. You know, come on, when
Speaker 8: are you get to try and win that edge, when
Speaker 8: you can try and dip, when you can try and
Speaker 8: play low shoulder, when you get to try and flatten
Speaker 8: that angle. You know, you just didn't see it with
Speaker 8: this guy, him and our guy at Marshall.
Speaker 2: Mike Green.
Speaker 3: I thought so.
Speaker 8: I thought those were the two best pass rushers when
Speaker 8: it came to attacking a shoulder, getting low and then
Speaker 8: finishing where they needed to.
Speaker 4: I thought the technique from Mezeraku is NFL ready. The
Speaker 4: side in the length is NFL ready, the speed off
Speaker 4: of the jump is NFL ready. The one thing that
Speaker 4: is a knock is his strength, like his play strength,
Speaker 4: But he plays with his hands so well, specifically the
Speaker 4: way he's able to play him and the way he's
Speaker 4: able to work around these or these tackles he's that's
Speaker 4: something you can grow on. That's something you can coach,
Speaker 4: you can get better at as time goes on.
Speaker 5: He doesn't have brute strength, but I mean there's pop
Speaker 5: in his hands.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: It shocks guys. And like I said, when he gets
Speaker 5: locked in, that's.
Speaker 2: Gonna get better.
Speaker 4: As he does get some brute brute strength whenever he
Speaker 4: works in an NFL strength and conditioning.
Speaker 5: Even when he gets tackles hands on him, he's still
Speaker 5: strong enough to like, I mean, he will, he'll he'll break,
Speaker 5: he'll break the grip.
Speaker 3: Also too, Like if he's bending all game right and
Speaker 3: he's outside shoulder, outside shoulder as a tackle, you get
Speaker 3: used to that and you go, all right, let me
Speaker 3: overcompensate for his outside speed, and that's when he'll he'll
Speaker 3: he'll run down a milliu in bull russe or whatever,
Speaker 3: just fantastically.
Speaker 2: Michael wanted to ask the question on Twitter on the twenty.
Speaker 4: He said, if the if the Cowboys had moved up
Speaker 4: to get Tetoro at McMillan, it would cost their third
Speaker 4: round pick in order to do so. Likely, So now
Speaker 4: we know that what we've got, would you rather have
Speaker 4: the picks that you have, the three Booker Ezraku Revel
Speaker 4: or would you rather have tedor Rolla, McMillan and Aserraku
Speaker 4: in the second.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you how good of a question that is,
Speaker 3: because they've asked us this before, Like you trade up
Speaker 3: and you lose picks, but you don't have names on.
Speaker 2: The picks that you know who you're gonna get.
Speaker 3: We just got picks, and we could be assumed that
Speaker 3: the Cowboys aren't going to do the right thing and
Speaker 3: draft properly. Right, But you got three players in my
Speaker 3: top twenty eight and Brian's top thirty seven. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that's better than Tip McMillan donovan and wait until
Speaker 3: pick one forty nine to take Bluke.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think if if you're without your third round pick,
Speaker 4: your philosophy of the second round pick may differ too.
Speaker 4: You may not have the leeway to say we'll take
Speaker 4: a corner in the third or day three. We may
Speaker 4: have to take Will Johnson who was there at forty four.
Speaker 4: We might have to take Benjamin Morrison who was there
Speaker 4: forty four. Tree Almos, I would.
Speaker 8: Rather have the picks that we got, No, I mean
Speaker 8: to me, it's it was very logical when you talk
Speaker 8: about Vach mentioned the three players. I got the twelfth
Speaker 8: best player with the third round pick. I got the
Speaker 8: twelfth best player on my board with a third round pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Now you'll say, okay, Brian, it was probably because of
Speaker 8: some injury and stuff like that, but they you know,
Speaker 8: this kid is you know the fact that doctor Cooper, who.
Speaker 7: I know very well, did the surgery. I think this
Speaker 7: kid's going to be just fine.
Speaker 8: I think he's going we're going to look back at
Speaker 8: this one day and we're going to go, Wow, what
Speaker 8: a steal that player was. And so to me give
Speaker 8: me the opportunity. If you tell me I could get
Speaker 8: at seventy six, I could get the twelfth player off
Speaker 8: my board. I don't care how good Ted McMillan is.
Speaker 8: I'm I'm I'm happy with the way that went.
Speaker 5: Can I give you a scenario, yes, because I think
Speaker 5: if they trade up and they lose their third and
Speaker 5: their fourth, I think they definitely bail out of their
Speaker 5: second round. They trade back and they pick up a
Speaker 5: fourth is what I think. They do everything they can
Speaker 5: to pick up that. They were trying to do that anyway,
Speaker 5: So I think it becomes more would you then want McMillan,
Speaker 5: And then when they move back in the second they
Speaker 5: probably take Revel because I would imagine as Iraku is
Speaker 5: off the board, and then the fourth you're taking Sampson,
Speaker 5: I would guess somebody like Dylan Sampson. So then the
Speaker 5: question I think becomes McMillan Revel Samson or Booker Revel
Speaker 5: as Iraku.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they got.
Speaker 5: I like, I think I'd stick with what they got
Speaker 5: to ye, I was.
Speaker 7: Sure that they like Sampson as much as I mean.
Speaker 5: I think, I think, I think where they would have
Speaker 5: to move back in order to pick up capital at
Speaker 5: that point in probably back half of the fourth round,
Speaker 5: Samson's probably close to the running back that they would
Speaker 5: have taken. Sampson Blue statement still may have been in conversation.
Speaker 7: That's what I was wondering. If Blue has still been
Speaker 7: in the conversation.
Speaker 3: Tit tit would have been fun, But I would need
Speaker 3: a jmar Chase type wide receiver like type due to
Speaker 3: make me feel good about moving on from the holiday week.
Speaker 5: I think Tet was relatively around the same great as Booker.
Speaker 5: It's just Tet was the need like I think that.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's like Ted was just generational above
Speaker 5: what they were looking at Booker.
Speaker 4: I heard the same kind of thing, like they were
Speaker 4: very close together on this.
Speaker 8: It's Nick Millan would have won out. Its very clear
Speaker 8: the way that their bored. It's very clear that that
Speaker 8: that what happened. Did He obviously was the second he
Speaker 8: was behind McMillan and very close. There there was you know,
Speaker 8: there was people between and Booker happened to be between
Speaker 8: their top wide receiver and the next best wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me tell you what.
Speaker 4: Let it may have been a bigger gap than we
Speaker 4: thought it actually absolutely.
Speaker 3: Let me just tell you what I don't like about Tit.
Speaker 3: Then I'm asking a cowboy question. He really don't like
Speaker 3: to be called tit. Like he was on the red
Speaker 3: Carbet talking to the lady with microphones. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't like when people called me Ted. I don't
Speaker 3: know where they come from. Well, your name tedoroa? What
Speaker 3: you mean?
Speaker 5: Because he went by t Mac that's what so that's
Speaker 5: the short name. In his opinion, it's team.
Speaker 3: If your name is Bobby is Robert. But if your
Speaker 3: name is Bobby, if we call you Bob, that's where
Speaker 3: Bob come from.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes sense. I see the connection for sure.
Speaker 2: He like, where did it come from?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: Why is that?
Speaker 7: Why?
Speaker 3: Why here y'all call me tick boy?
Speaker 2: Your name is Tararroa.
Speaker 3: He would, he would, he would, He would never be
Speaker 3: a good leader or teammate thinking like that, Anti don't
Speaker 3: watch film, But let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck in Carolina, guys, Yeah, good luck real quick.
Speaker 7: Did you think Carolina was going to take him?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, I had no clue.
Speaker 8: See, but we should have thought that after watching Dallas
Speaker 8: play Carolina last year at wide receiver.
Speaker 5: I mean, they just invested a big pick and Mingo
Speaker 5: and then traded him and so they clearly had an opening.
Speaker 3: Do you guys think that the Cowboys I'm talking about
Speaker 3: corner now now we're back on Reveel. Do you guys
Speaker 3: think that the Cowboys are going to attempt to make
Speaker 3: a big three at corner or is Reveel supposed to
Speaker 3: be diggs insurance while we while they pay bling? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think some guys need to be unnoticed.
Speaker 2: It's kind of both.
Speaker 8: I think I think they need to be unnoticed. I
Speaker 8: agree with Bobby on that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Diggs is hurting, I don't know when Diggs
Speaker 3: is coming back. Are we ever going to see those
Speaker 3: three on the field at the same.
Speaker 2: Time we didn't see them with Jordan.
Speaker 3: Lewis had a proper big three where the corner or
Speaker 3: wide receiver we never get to see.
Speaker 2: They never get to see him together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think when Diggs comes back and you've got Diggs,
Speaker 5: Bland and reveled. Yeah, I think I think Cream's gonna
Speaker 5: rise at the top and somebody's probably gonna be on
Speaker 5: their way out at at the end of that.
Speaker 2: That's gonna suck.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 4: A lot of decisions to be made, same kind of
Speaker 4: thing on day three, though. We had a lot of
Speaker 4: decisions made on day three to try and fill some
Speaker 4: of the needs that weren't necessarily taken in day one
Speaker 4: or two. When we come back, who was the best
Speaker 4: value on day three and who could be the most
Speaker 4: surprising in year one. Couple questions from the Twitter on
Speaker 4: the twenty chat panel when we come back with more
Speaker 4: of the draft show.
Speaker 12: I'm Darren Woodson, former Dallas Cowboy player and Super Bowl champion.
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Speaker 5: I'm bittersweet, I'm sad Zach had to cancel. I know
Speaker 5: that he's no longer here. The jay Toya was in
Speaker 5: the building and they said that he couldn't be around him.
Speaker 3: That's the good order already.
Speaker 5: No, he just he could stomach to potentially bump into somebody,
Speaker 5: and he's just like buds.
Speaker 2: I love how like Uh.
Speaker 4: That was a big topic of conversation on g Bag
Speaker 4: Nation and on the radio or the morning show yesterday
Speaker 4: and then yeah uh and then the Saints miss correction
Speaker 4: finished runner up on g Bag of the Day yesterday too.
Speaker 2: I was talking about the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 3: Right, like what you saying?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it. Go go back and listen to it.
Speaker 4: You know, it might be a drop already.
Speaker 3: The audio for the for the hocast that was awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh no, that's gotten. That's gotten played a lot
Speaker 5: on the station already. So yeah, that's that's getting run
Speaker 5: into the ground. I feel for him, just like Zach's reputation.
Speaker 2: Give me.
Speaker 7: The funny thing for me was was Nick not listening?
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, that was fine.
Speaker 8: I just you know, I mean, like like you sit there.
Speaker 8: Zach just kind of gave a really nice great down breakdown.
Speaker 8: The guy Rugby family got full and then and then
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, Nick just kind of goes into
Speaker 8: the same rundown.
Speaker 2: He was so confident.
Speaker 3: He come from a rugby family.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you about this guy. It was how
Speaker 4: you started it. It's like everybody just kind of looked down, like,
Speaker 4: what are you doing near bro?
Speaker 5: That was honestly the I was six Saturday morning. I
Speaker 5: think it was actually because I chugged like probably the
Speaker 5: more energy drinks the night before and it destroyed it.
Speaker 5: But I was saying when I heard that interview in
Speaker 5: the seventh round, I was like, this is the moment
Speaker 5: I've most been upset that I'm not there today because
Speaker 5: I would make this last hour. Zach would cry.
Speaker 7: He may have already, Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 5: It's a lot He's a crier.
Speaker 2: He's a crier. Man.
Speaker 4: It was a lot of fun. We appreciate all those
Speaker 4: that tuned in and stayed. We got all the tweets
Speaker 4: as as two fifty seven rolled across, Mister Irrelevant walked
Speaker 4: the stage, and man, it's always a blast. Day three
Speaker 4: and we get to the point where it's loopy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we're just we're losing it. All of our exhaustion from
Speaker 4: the previous two days catches up to us and we
Speaker 4: just we got to survive on the air without getting canceled, Zach,
Speaker 4: but no, it's been it's been a whole lot of fun,
Speaker 4: and this is such an incredible journey year in and
Speaker 4: year out. Let's wrap it up by talking Day five
Speaker 4: and the draft picks that were for the Cowboys. I'll
Speaker 4: run them down real quick, just for those who may
Speaker 4: have either missed it or forgotten by now.
Speaker 2: Fifth round they had two selections.
Speaker 4: Jaden Blue, running back from Texas was the first, and
Speaker 4: then they traded up. They traded their sixth round pick
Speaker 4: to come up and get Shamar James, linebacker from Florida.
Speaker 4: Remaining with one sixth round pick, they used it on
Speaker 4: a Johnny Cornelius, the offensive lineup or offensive lineman from Oregon,
Speaker 4: and then Jay Toya, Zach's favorite player, defensive tackle from UCLA,
Speaker 4: Phil MafA, running back from Clemson, and then Tommy king
Speaker 4: Basote from Maryland to defensive tackle. The three seventh round picks.
Speaker 4: Let me start by asking who do you feel like
Speaker 4: has the best chance to contribute in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Five out of this group of players.
Speaker 4: Because it could be a number of them they address
Speaker 4: need double dip the running back, double dipped the defensive
Speaker 4: tackle added some in the trenches. Where do you feel
Speaker 4: like the best chance to contribute would be both jays?
Speaker 3: Jayda On Blue is going to make this offensive fast,
Speaker 3: this offense fast, really fast. And I think Ja Toya
Speaker 3: Toya toy eya Toya. I think j Toya is going
Speaker 3: to be your big body run d guy, you know,
Speaker 3: shouts out to Masi, Man, we still got to see
Speaker 3: you know him as a complete player. Talking to coach
Speaker 3: white Cotte, you know he doesn't have a tight necessary
Speaker 3: early but having different body types and different guys are
Speaker 3: are gonna have different jobs. Cool. I can imagine that
Speaker 3: out of all the guys in their room, your best
Speaker 3: run defending type, you know, D tackle, it's probably Ja
Speaker 3: toe one because of the size shore but his effort
Speaker 3: and him moving around, you know, for his size, he
Speaker 3: has some great movement for his size. So I see
Speaker 3: him as like a day one, go be big in there,
Speaker 3: run defense type guy. And besides, I think everybody's gonna
Speaker 3: have to get in where they fit in. I'm really
Speaker 3: curious to see how how James fits, but I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have to rewatch him with with cowboy eyes. You know
Speaker 3: how you how you watch a guy for all thirty
Speaker 3: two teams and then you hear the Cowboys say, well,
Speaker 3: you know, we look at him as a pass rushing
Speaker 3: you'll probably be a will linebacker type guy. So now
Speaker 3: I got to go back and watch him as a
Speaker 3: pass rusher, will linebacker type dude, not just as a
Speaker 3: linebacker for everybody.
Speaker 4: But thize with with hebra flu size, he was the
Speaker 4: one kind of driving the force behind that picker.
Speaker 3: And they and they traded up to go get him.
Speaker 3: And I was like, Hey, this guy that I had
Speaker 3: in my seventh round picks or whatever, y'all traded up
Speaker 3: to go get him in the fifth. So now I
Speaker 3: got to watch some cowboy ass to see what they
Speaker 3: see in them.
Speaker 8: Soya makes it's going to be, I think right off
Speaker 8: the jump, you're going to know how good he is
Speaker 8: when we get to training camp and all of a
Speaker 8: sudden he's lining up against with Booker Tyler Smith and
Speaker 8: and you know, and you're in BBI, and how he
Speaker 8: handles that. You know, if we see him in those
Speaker 8: drills in the nine on seven periods, the run periods,
Speaker 8: the team periods where you know, the balls not getting
Speaker 8: inside or they're kind of having to bounce or it
Speaker 8: gets kind of muddy in the middle of that defense,
Speaker 8: and he's holding up against those powerful guards and center man.
Speaker 8: That would be that would be a great sign for me,
Speaker 8: you know. And maybe they'll get the scrimmage against the
Speaker 8: Rams again, or maybe the Chargers will come over and
Speaker 8: we'll get to see him get to work against some
Speaker 8: other guys. But I think you'll you'll see very early
Speaker 8: because he either he is going to show up or
Speaker 8: those guys that I just mentioned are going to wear
Speaker 8: him out, you know, because of how they play. So
Speaker 8: I think you'll have a very good indication of.
Speaker 7: How he can help. I think he's absolutely.
Speaker 8: Going to push Mozzie Smith for I think I don't
Speaker 8: think Mozzie Smith could show up and roll his helmet
Speaker 8: out there and think that he's got this job.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because if.
Speaker 8: He if you know, like I say, he could get
Speaker 8: he could just get just as exposed by Booker and
Speaker 8: Smith and BB and others as well. He needs to
Speaker 8: come in and not have every practice where somebody has
Speaker 8: to put their arm around him and say it's okay,
Speaker 8: big fellow, we'll get him tomorrow kind of a thing. No,
Speaker 8: it's time for him to grow up and go out
Speaker 8: there and and be a force.
Speaker 7: And maybe maybe.
Speaker 8: That's just not in his DNA. And if it's not
Speaker 8: his DNA, then I could see this team absolutely moving on.
Speaker 8: Maybe not this year, but I don't think his status
Speaker 8: is you know, will be submitted. Maybe if we get
Speaker 8: to twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5: Well said, yeah, Toya and Blue are the ones that
Speaker 5: stand out. Like they said, I mean Blue probably more so.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna I'm not jump full on board yet,
Speaker 5: but I think we did see there were a couple
Speaker 5: different games last year where Mazi flashed.
Speaker 8: Against nfcas to Poe York Giants, played some of his
Speaker 8: best football.
Speaker 5: And so I'm at least looking at that and saying,
Speaker 5: I wonder if there's enough there and Aaron Whitecott and
Speaker 5: being a guy whose reputation across the league as somebody
Speaker 5: who gets the most up players, then I'm at least
Speaker 5: a little more optimistic, I guess than you guys. Not
Speaker 5: not banking on it, but a little more optimistic that
Speaker 5: it's possible. Whereas on the other side, you don't have
Speaker 5: anybody like Jayden Blue before he picked him. He's he's new,
Speaker 5: he's unique, and I mean Shoddy has talked about when
Speaker 5: he was asked an indie what do you look for
Speaker 5: in a running back, and one of the top things
Speaker 5: to him was pass catching ability and the things that
Speaker 5: you can do with Jayden Blue in the slot on
Speaker 5: swing passes, the things he can do as a runner,
Speaker 5: the type of juice he brings. I think Jaden Blue
Speaker 5: is going to be given an opportunity to contribute heavily
Speaker 5: right away. I don't think he's Bell Coow and just
Speaker 5: taking everything, but I mean he's going to be He's
Speaker 5: going to be used. It's not a small guy, no.
Speaker 8: I mean he's short, but he's not a He's not
Speaker 8: a he's not a five you know, he's not a
Speaker 8: five nine.
Speaker 7: He's a you know change. Yeah, he's he's six.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think he's going to be a
Speaker 5: game day in active. I don't think he's going to
Speaker 5: be you know, active but not really getting any touches.
Speaker 5: I think he'll be used probably similarly to how he's
Speaker 5: used at Texas when Texas had all their healthy running backs.
Speaker 5: Like that's the kind of workload that he's going to
Speaker 5: get and that's that's something that if he can produce,
Speaker 5: which I think he's capable of, then he can make
Speaker 5: an impact pretty quickly.
Speaker 4: I like the way you kind of outlined it because
Speaker 4: a lot of people are looking at a fifth round
Speaker 4: running back and saying, oh, he has a chance to
Speaker 4: contend for a starting job. Who's going to be the
Speaker 4: starter up front for running back? You're going to get
Speaker 4: a different look from these guys. There's not going to
Speaker 4: be one consensus starting running back out of this group.
Speaker 4: You're going to use them in specific spots and kind
Speaker 4: of use Williams here or Sanders there, or Blue there
Speaker 4: or Lipke there. However it ends up being from a
Speaker 4: running back standpoint, maybe MafA fits into the mix. If
Speaker 4: he has a great training camp as well, there's a
Speaker 4: chance for him to make the roster and have some
Speaker 4: legitimate production. But he's got to get to that point first.
Speaker 4: You guys mentioned Toya at training camp and what he
Speaker 4: could show immediately. I can already see Cowboys Nation reacting
Speaker 4: on social and being super upset when he just mauls.
Speaker 2: A guard Mars.
Speaker 4: He goes to Tyler Booker and he wins a rep
Speaker 4: against Tyler Booker and it's tweeted out and everybody's gonna
Speaker 4: be like, oh, Tyler Booker has having a bad camp boy.
Speaker 3: If I know a Booker, man, he coming right.
Speaker 2: Man, he's gonna get him on the next rip.
Speaker 4: But Toya has a chance to really do something out
Speaker 4: of that one tech spot at that.
Speaker 7: You don't zero or one.
Speaker 8: I mean, this guy's not going to be a great
Speaker 8: pass rusher, but what he's going to be is you
Speaker 8: put him head up. He has a problem to deal with,
Speaker 8: a little bit of a shorter armed guy, but man,
Speaker 8: he plays with a lot of power. He faces all
Speaker 8: kinds of blocks and plays them all well. He's at
Speaker 8: three point forty two. He is a very hard guy
Speaker 8: to move off the ball.
Speaker 4: What do you think about the h the other guys
Speaker 4: now that you've gotten to see him a little bit.
Speaker 4: Has anybody watched Phil MafA or King Basote since they
Speaker 4: were they were picked and kind of what what are
Speaker 4: some of the thoughts along the way with those guys.
Speaker 3: I was a little underwhelmed with with MafA. I think
Speaker 3: the first thing that you have to do is take
Speaker 3: him out of those shotgun runs.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: I can't stand I can't stand a powerful runner being
Speaker 3: being stuck in that.
Speaker 2: But put him in the eye.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought I thought he was at his
Speaker 3: best when he was running forward and running through people.
Speaker 3: He's two hundred and thirty five pounds, four pound whatever
Speaker 3: it was. He's at his best when he's moving straight forward.
Speaker 3: He he likes to dance. Stop dancing, guy, run directly
Speaker 3: into people. He likes to, you know, make some cuts
Speaker 3: and try to read and really figure it out. My guy,
Speaker 3: even if you got to run over your offensive line
Speaker 3: and just run forward, that's all you do. I felt like,
Speaker 3: even as a blocker, I was kind of upset that
Speaker 3: I felt like jayda On Blue was a better blocker
Speaker 3: than him because Toaya loves to try to cut people. Sir,
Speaker 3: you're six foot two thirds. Hit people square. You'll be fine,
Speaker 3: I promise. But I think he's a guy if you
Speaker 3: just tweak his game just a little bit, that's what
Speaker 3: coaching is for. Take him out of those shotgun runs.
Speaker 3: Just pat him on the back and say, sirch just
Speaker 3: forward and when you're blocking, stand straight up, square hit people.
Speaker 3: I think he doesn't have a problem blocking people. He
Speaker 3: doesn't have a problem, you know, getting to the blocker.
Speaker 3: He just chops people once he gets there. I hate
Speaker 3: that for being a six foot, three hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: five pound running back. But if he's gonna be your
Speaker 3: thumpy guy, Javonte Williams is gonna have something to say
Speaker 3: about that. Ye, he's your your thumping guy right now.
Speaker 3: And Williams is a much better pass catcher and blocker
Speaker 3: right now. So Martha's gonna have to fight for his
Speaker 3: life here. But where Blue has the advantages that he's
Speaker 3: a bigger deuce van and dude's gonna have to fight
Speaker 3: for his So the running backs have two different paths
Speaker 3: to freedoms here. Of course Blue has the easier or
Speaker 3: the clearer path, But I think MAF's got a little
Speaker 3: bit of work to do. But he was cool just
Speaker 3: seventh round guy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, to me, I was I was kind
Speaker 8: of looking more like the guys Martinez got picked in
Speaker 8: the seventh round. Crosskey Merritt got picked right behind you.
Speaker 8: I mean literally, Yeah, Allen was Syracuse was picked in
Speaker 8: the seventh round. Maybe those guys a little bit more.
Speaker 8: I thought we might have been a little bit better pairing,
Speaker 8: And I think Vouch is right. Though you could watch
Speaker 8: some Clemson tape. My man had some alleys to run
Speaker 8: through Clemson do a good job coming off the football
Speaker 8: and blocking people and him having the path to go through.
Speaker 8: But there were a couple of times where watching the
Speaker 8: Florida State game, he just completely ran over the safety,
Speaker 8: you know, to make a gain. So he needs to
Speaker 8: embrace the physicality that he plays with that that that
Speaker 8: if he's going to try and be dancing guy and
Speaker 8: and just you know it take his time to get
Speaker 8: through the hole, there's gonna be some problems there.
Speaker 5: I had, So I agree. I think you saw basically
Speaker 5: a seventh round pick on tape, like when you watch
Speaker 5: the Clemson stuff. But I will say that I'm I've
Speaker 5: got a slight I've got I've got a slight correction
Speaker 5: to what I saw on tape. I guess because after
Speaker 5: asking around from a few people and watching the twenty
Speaker 5: four tape, I was told he was hurt the entire time.
Speaker 2: They said he had anger.
Speaker 5: So yea that they said he played hurt the whole year.
Speaker 5: So I don't know if he's just is he so
Speaker 5: banged up so he's trying to avoid some of that
Speaker 5: physicality because he's already bruised.
Speaker 8: Oh, he's runned over some people. Though you can watch
Speaker 8: some games where he physically will run over folks.
Speaker 5: So he's I mean, like he's I think he's a
Speaker 5: fine contributor, but like you watch him on tape and
Speaker 5: I just go, yeah, that's a guy you taking the
Speaker 5: seventh round and just see what sticks.
Speaker 8: Maybe because we thought we, you know, we had a
Speaker 8: better idea of the guys. I mentioned the crosskey Merrits
Speaker 8: and yeah, Allen's.
Speaker 3: And guys Martinez don't cut Martinez.
Speaker 2: Yeah he smokes people. Yeah, and he still had more production.
Speaker 4: He didn't have more yards per carry than he had
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, but in twenty twenty four he
Speaker 4: had more production overall than he did the year before that.
Speaker 4: They used him in the red zone a lot. In
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, had thirteen touchdowns compared to eight last year.
Speaker 4: He's not your home run threat. Your home run threat
Speaker 4: is Jaden Blue.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: This is a short yardage back for the most part,
Speaker 4: at least the start, and if he can break something
Speaker 4: a little bit more than that, and he can utilize
Speaker 4: the pass protection element with his size and take a
Speaker 4: step forward literally in running forward. I agree with Watch
Speaker 4: on that point as well. You can't dance behind the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, go laterally. That's not his game. His
Speaker 4: game is downhill and play with it. I think MafA
Speaker 4: has a shot to It's a crowded room though, that's
Speaker 4: the only thing, and so you give it a shot.
Speaker 4: You see what he can have a training camp and
Speaker 4: then you go from there.
Speaker 8: I kind of feel like that him and our Maryland
Speaker 8: defensive tackle probably practice squad type guys.
Speaker 2: Probably What did you see in him?
Speaker 7: You know what?
Speaker 8: I to me, I wasn't super impressed as with I
Speaker 8: worry a little bit. I think he's laid off the
Speaker 8: ball and you know, and I think we need to
Speaker 8: kind of speed him up that way.
Speaker 7: I think he could play the one. I think he
Speaker 7: could play the three.
Speaker 8: He'll try and throw some pass rous moves and stuff
Speaker 8: on you, but he'll get stuck on blocks. He's a
Speaker 8: little bit like when we talk about the guys that
Speaker 8: start stop and then they get stopped again and they're
Speaker 8: trying to re It's really really hard for him to
Speaker 8: do that. I could see him playing down the line
Speaker 8: of scrimmage. There were a couple of games where he
Speaker 8: was able to make that tackle for loss, just working
Speaker 8: down the line of scrimmage. But he's he's he's really
Speaker 8: laid off the ball, and so those are the types
Speaker 8: of things I worry about. Is he not is he
Speaker 8: not able to see it?
Speaker 2: Is you know?
Speaker 7: Is he getting distracted? What's happening there?
Speaker 8: The size and all that, He's a big upper body
Speaker 8: guy and kind of got like a slimber lower body,
Speaker 8: which allows him to have the ability to move around
Speaker 8: and stuff. But man, he is going to have to
Speaker 8: lear him to come off the ball quicker and come
Speaker 8: with a little bit more pass rush, moves, play with
Speaker 8: his hands a little bit better. I just kind of
Speaker 8: feel like though, with a with a crowded room, he's
Speaker 8: going to have a hard time making this football team.
Speaker 8: And I could see actually him being on a practice squad.
Speaker 3: Got some length though, and he does and when he
Speaker 3: did make plays, it was him using his length. He
Speaker 3: just doesn't do it all the time. Brian makes a
Speaker 3: great point. He's just a little late, just a just
Speaker 3: a just a tick late. But when he was on
Speaker 3: time and he came off the ball, he uses length
Speaker 3: and he stacked and shit in and extended. That's when
Speaker 3: he was really good. He just didn't do that all
Speaker 3: the time. You would much rather watch Jordan Phillips if
Speaker 3: you're gonna watch Maryland. But if the if they were
Speaker 3: excited about him, like just the cam or whatever, they
Speaker 3: were high five and all that. So he has a
Speaker 3: sponsor in the room, whoever that may be, could be
Speaker 3: white Kotten if they if they coach him into something.
Speaker 3: And look, we have proof of white Ktt and coaching
Speaker 3: people that we didn't think would be great into solid players.
Speaker 3: So we'll see. But like you said, and me and
Speaker 3: Brian thought about this last night, the D line room
Speaker 3: is deep right now, Like there's about sixteen guys in
Speaker 3: there that can make the team, possibly can be around
Speaker 3: or have you know played before. So the D line altogether,
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to figure all this out.
Speaker 4: Well, I think he benefits from a I know there's
Speaker 4: a lot of bodies in there defensive tackle, but there's
Speaker 4: a lot of uncertainty in the defensive tackle room. So
Speaker 4: unlike a Phil Maffa who's a seventh round pick at
Speaker 4: running back or and where he could fit in the
Speaker 4: running back room that's crowded with veterans and draft picks
Speaker 4: now and a couple other guys, they can have a
Speaker 4: defensive tackle that could sneak his way onto the back
Speaker 4: end of the roster as long as he does the
Speaker 4: right thing and.
Speaker 2: Hills the void.
Speaker 4: Still a long way to go for a lot of
Speaker 4: those guys, and probably practice squad is a little more
Speaker 4: likely as they get into it.
Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it for us, Bobby.
Speaker 3: It was good having you back today.
Speaker 2: We missed you on day three.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, I was. I was glued to my bathroom.
Speaker 7: Have a tradition if you're not showing up on day three.
Speaker 2: Damn, I was here. Maybe maybe less energy drinks this
Speaker 2: time around.
Speaker 5: I was here last year and finished my point.
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, And you know appreciate y'all.
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Speaker 3: I was a PiZZ Hut employee.
Speaker 2: Smelled like dirty dishwater.
Speaker 3: Now I get to bust his suit out close out
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Speaker 3: around too. So appreciate y'all for tuning it.
Speaker 2: And you can slow down the YouTube clip there and
Speaker 2: just play it over and over so you can get
Speaker 2: all those letters in there too. Bas Lombard, it's pretty
Speaker 2: easy to spell.
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Speaker 4: It's been a whole lot of fun. Like you said,
Speaker 4: you and Tommy have killed it. You're number one. Can't
Speaker 4: wait to have you on again next year too, and
Speaker 4: really roll into the twenty twenty six draft, hopefully with
Speaker 4: the Cowboys picking thirty second overall.
Speaker 2: I think that would be a lot of fun if
Speaker 2: we can get there.
Speaker 7: Brian Pleasure as a thank you guys.
Speaker 2: Great job.
Speaker 4: Zach Wolchuck who's not here. Sorry about the Hakka, but
Speaker 4: you were fantastic too. We love you Bobby again. Great
Speaker 4: to have you back today.
Speaker 5: Thank you. Kyle did a good job this year.
Speaker 2: Thanks guys. It was good to be back for the
Speaker 2: draft weekend.
Speaker 4: I missed it last year with the babies at home,
Speaker 4: but now it's now it's back to normal. Chris Beam
Speaker 4: in the pack and everybody who helped have their hands
Speaker 4: on this throughout the draft process, whether it was cutting,
Speaker 4: b role, editing, video clipping, interviews, all that stuff. We
Speaker 4: appreciate everybody that was here for it. Along the ride.
Speaker 4: For one final time for Vox Lombardi, Brian brought us
Speaker 4: Bobby Bell Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman
Speaker 4: saying so long from the Draft show. We'll see you
Speaker 4: for the twenty twenty six draft in Pittsburgh.
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