1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:33,828 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,268 --> 00:00:23,788 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:26,988 --> 00:00:29,588 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome to Good Morning Football present of my 5 00:00:29,628 --> 00:00:32,148 Speaker 3: old trapper Beef Jerky, Live in New York City, Thursday, 6 00:00:32,148 --> 00:00:35,788 Speaker 3: December twenty. I'm junior at all. There's Kyle Brandt, Jason mccordy, 7 00:00:35,788 --> 00:00:38,748 Speaker 3: and Peter Schrager, who we have not properly covered the 8 00:00:38,788 --> 00:00:42,468 Speaker 3: fact that his photo was updated in the open on 9 00:00:42,628 --> 00:00:43,788 Speaker 3: Good Morning Football. 10 00:00:44,148 --> 00:00:44,708 Speaker 4: On Monday. 11 00:00:44,708 --> 00:00:46,268 Speaker 3: We were all at home and we wanted to give 12 00:00:46,308 --> 00:00:48,508 Speaker 3: it its due. Tuesday, there was a lot of business 13 00:00:48,508 --> 00:00:50,228 Speaker 3: to get to. Wednesday call was near. I was about 14 00:00:50,228 --> 00:00:51,548 Speaker 3: to do it. I'm like, no, I need Kyle here 15 00:00:51,548 --> 00:00:53,268 Speaker 3: to do this. Peter, how are you feeling? 16 00:00:53,308 --> 00:00:53,828 Speaker 2: It was great. 17 00:00:54,468 --> 00:00:56,788 Speaker 4: I like that I'm in a shirt and a jacket 18 00:00:56,868 --> 00:00:58,988 Speaker 4: and today I'm in an angry runs teacher and some 19 00:00:59,068 --> 00:01:02,068 Speaker 4: Lululemon joggers. So just shows the divert the you know, 20 00:01:02,188 --> 00:01:03,788 Speaker 4: my versatility. 21 00:01:03,788 --> 00:01:06,468 Speaker 2: I can't listen. It was I gave you for Christmas. 22 00:01:06,468 --> 00:01:08,668 Speaker 2: That's a very nice. It was my Christmas present to you. 23 00:01:08,748 --> 00:01:10,508 Speaker 4: I would never do it myself, so thank you. 24 00:01:11,028 --> 00:01:12,788 Speaker 1: Five and a half year old picture of him in 25 00:01:12,828 --> 00:01:14,988 Speaker 1: the show open and now we got its crisp. 26 00:01:14,988 --> 00:01:17,748 Speaker 2: You look good, Tan. You know what I said. 27 00:01:17,748 --> 00:01:19,668 Speaker 1: I said to I said, go find something in Peter. 28 00:01:19,868 --> 00:01:22,828 Speaker 1: Make it be from June or August. That's that's when 29 00:01:22,868 --> 00:01:26,068 Speaker 1: all our pictures. We look like zombies now for then 30 00:01:26,068 --> 00:01:28,068 Speaker 1: we look terrible now, but back then we. 31 00:01:27,988 --> 00:01:28,788 Speaker 2: Looked we were hot. 32 00:01:28,868 --> 00:01:31,428 Speaker 3: It was all bus You're all business, you're smiling, you're 33 00:01:31,428 --> 00:01:32,748 Speaker 3: delivering news left and right. 34 00:01:32,788 --> 00:01:34,868 Speaker 4: I bet the shots there were a lot of angry runs. 35 00:01:34,868 --> 00:01:35,308 Speaker 5: T shirt. 36 00:01:35,508 --> 00:01:36,988 Speaker 2: Do you pay for it? Or is that a gift? 37 00:01:37,268 --> 00:01:37,908 Speaker 4: A gift from Kyle. 38 00:01:37,908 --> 00:01:40,988 Speaker 2: I came, he knows I like Jamior Gibbs. 39 00:01:41,388 --> 00:01:44,628 Speaker 4: Okay, So the fine folks at Homage and Kyle came 40 00:01:44,708 --> 00:01:47,388 Speaker 4: together and I figured, Cowboys Lions. What better shirt to 41 00:01:47,428 --> 00:01:49,508 Speaker 4: wear than the lovely sweater? 42 00:01:49,588 --> 00:01:53,668 Speaker 2: Okas shot? I mean, Peter, you look like double seven. 43 00:01:53,708 --> 00:01:58,068 Speaker 4: I feel great, feel like great, I feel like Bradley Cooper. Hello. 44 00:01:59,068 --> 00:02:05,548 Speaker 2: What's with the font? Peter? Very good? 45 00:02:05,588 --> 00:02:08,148 Speaker 3: Where I'm so happy that you have updated times? 46 00:02:08,188 --> 00:02:08,708 Speaker 2: Lily Block. 47 00:02:09,268 --> 00:02:12,948 Speaker 3: Massive matchup this weekends Week seventeen. Look at the top 48 00:02:12,988 --> 00:02:15,788 Speaker 3: of the NFC. It's the eleven and four Detroit Lions 49 00:02:15,828 --> 00:02:18,828 Speaker 3: taking on ten and five Dallas Cowys in Dallas. That 50 00:02:18,948 --> 00:02:21,148 Speaker 3: is important for the Cowboys. So games we've played dllas 51 00:02:21,188 --> 00:02:23,108 Speaker 3: and while all the Lions have won their last two games, 52 00:02:23,148 --> 00:02:26,708 Speaker 3: the Cowboys have lost their last two Buffalo and Miami 53 00:02:26,788 --> 00:02:28,948 Speaker 3: on the road. Here's Dak Prescott on the mood of 54 00:02:28,988 --> 00:02:31,828 Speaker 3: the locker room heading into week sixteen seventeen. 55 00:02:33,588 --> 00:02:39,108 Speaker 6: That's for sure, but this resilient I guess to answer 56 00:02:39,188 --> 00:02:42,908 Speaker 6: that and understanding that that one was close I got 57 00:02:42,948 --> 00:02:44,708 Speaker 6: away from us. Obviously on the road could have been 58 00:02:45,228 --> 00:02:47,948 Speaker 6: a good one, particularly saying the road right against against 59 00:02:47,948 --> 00:02:51,348 Speaker 6: a playoff team and just didn't get it done. But 60 00:02:51,388 --> 00:02:53,308 Speaker 6: it's just been about for everybody to be accountable, to 61 00:02:53,308 --> 00:02:55,708 Speaker 6: look themselves in the mirror, say what more can I 62 00:02:55,748 --> 00:02:58,228 Speaker 6: do individually, and then understanding if we do that, commit 63 00:02:58,308 --> 00:03:02,948 Speaker 6: to that collectively, we'll continue to get better and we'll 64 00:03:02,948 --> 00:03:04,148 Speaker 6: get over this, no doubt about it. 65 00:03:06,668 --> 00:03:06,988 Speaker 2: All right. 66 00:03:07,028 --> 00:03:09,388 Speaker 4: So Dak and the Cowboys are in the crosshairs right now. 67 00:03:09,428 --> 00:03:11,708 Speaker 4: Two straight games where they went on the road and lost. 68 00:03:11,748 --> 00:03:14,068 Speaker 4: They go back home where they haven't lost all season. 69 00:03:14,468 --> 00:03:16,308 Speaker 4: They're sitting there in that five seed. If they're the 70 00:03:16,348 --> 00:03:17,628 Speaker 4: five seed, they've got to go on the road the 71 00:03:17,628 --> 00:03:19,388 Speaker 4: whole way through the playoffs. There are no home games. 72 00:03:20,668 --> 00:03:24,268 Speaker 4: They play the current three seed. What makes Detroit situation interesting? 73 00:03:24,308 --> 00:03:27,028 Speaker 4: I mentioned this yesterday. Right now, they don't have the 74 00:03:27,068 --> 00:03:29,588 Speaker 4: tiebreaker over the forty nine Ers or the Eagles. But 75 00:03:29,628 --> 00:03:32,268 Speaker 4: if they win out and the forty nine Ers lose 76 00:03:32,308 --> 00:03:36,388 Speaker 4: one of their next two games, Commanders or Rams, Detroit 77 00:03:36,468 --> 00:03:38,348 Speaker 4: Lions would be the number one seed and would have 78 00:03:38,388 --> 00:03:41,228 Speaker 4: home field throughout the playoffs. So there is your playoff picture. 79 00:03:41,428 --> 00:03:44,308 Speaker 4: Very interesting, and the irony is Matthew Stafford and the 80 00:03:44,348 --> 00:03:46,708 Speaker 4: Rams could be the ones putting the Lions at the 81 00:03:46,708 --> 00:03:48,268 Speaker 4: one seed if they take care of their business. 82 00:03:48,388 --> 00:03:52,028 Speaker 3: And Peter, we know that that Sean McVay Kyle Shanahan 83 00:03:52,108 --> 00:03:53,908 Speaker 3: matchup would be oh so sweet if the Rams are 84 00:03:53,908 --> 00:03:55,988 Speaker 3: able to accomplish that. But let's focus on the task 85 00:03:56,028 --> 00:03:59,068 Speaker 3: at hand. It's Lions Cowboys. What do you think ultimately 86 00:03:59,068 --> 00:04:01,268 Speaker 3: decides this Saturday Night special, Peter? 87 00:04:01,948 --> 00:04:05,428 Speaker 4: If the Lions want to be spoilers, like Saturday Night 88 00:04:05,748 --> 00:04:08,348 Speaker 4: is a coordination for the Cowboys, It's like, all right, 89 00:04:08,428 --> 00:04:10,708 Speaker 4: you guys, been on the road, come home. It's a 90 00:04:10,708 --> 00:04:14,148 Speaker 4: Saturday night standalone game. You've got Troy and Joe on 91 00:04:14,188 --> 00:04:16,188 Speaker 4: the call. He got least assaulters on the sideline. I'm 92 00:04:16,188 --> 00:04:18,868 Speaker 4: sure ESPN is sending an army of people to do 93 00:04:18,908 --> 00:04:22,348 Speaker 4: pregame all day long. It's December thirtieth on a cold Saturday. 94 00:04:22,468 --> 00:04:25,908 Speaker 4: Everyone's going to be home and then Jimmy Johnson is 95 00:04:25,948 --> 00:04:27,588 Speaker 4: going to be inducted into the Ring of Honor. This 96 00:04:27,628 --> 00:04:30,668 Speaker 4: is a ceremony for that. This feels like homecoming week, 97 00:04:30,748 --> 00:04:32,348 Speaker 4: Like this is it. You guys have been on the road. 98 00:04:32,388 --> 00:04:34,668 Speaker 4: We're welcoming you back. Let's go roll over our opponent 99 00:04:34,708 --> 00:04:36,148 Speaker 4: and let's put one of our legends of the Ring 100 00:04:36,188 --> 00:04:39,068 Speaker 4: of Honor, which is long overdue. And the Lions don't 101 00:04:39,068 --> 00:04:42,348 Speaker 4: play like that. Last year at the end of the season, 102 00:04:42,388 --> 00:04:44,188 Speaker 4: all the Packers had to do was win a game, 103 00:04:44,548 --> 00:04:47,668 Speaker 4: and they go to the playoffs and the Lions are like, nah, 104 00:04:47,748 --> 00:04:49,748 Speaker 4: we have nothing to play for. We have this to 105 00:04:49,788 --> 00:04:53,148 Speaker 4: play for them. Smack them. Aaron Rodgers' last game as 106 00:04:53,188 --> 00:04:55,748 Speaker 4: a Green Bay Packer, despite four m vps, was a 107 00:04:55,788 --> 00:04:57,988 Speaker 4: loss at home and a winning in situation in week 108 00:04:58,028 --> 00:05:01,308 Speaker 4: eighteen on Satday Night Football, when they got absolutely destroyed 109 00:05:01,628 --> 00:05:04,108 Speaker 4: by a Ben Johnson offense that was pushing all the 110 00:05:04,148 --> 00:05:06,948 Speaker 4: right buttons late in the game, going forward on fourth down, 111 00:05:06,948 --> 00:05:07,948 Speaker 4: doing hooking laterals. 112 00:05:07,988 --> 00:05:10,628 Speaker 1: They found out before the game that they couldn't get in. 113 00:05:10,748 --> 00:05:13,068 Speaker 2: They had nothing to play for that. It was Seattle 114 00:05:13,148 --> 00:05:15,028 Speaker 2: beat the Rams. The Lions were eliminated, and they're like, 115 00:05:15,028 --> 00:05:16,828 Speaker 2: who cares, let's beat them anyway, Let's go win. It 116 00:05:16,868 --> 00:05:17,308 Speaker 2: was awesome. 117 00:05:18,428 --> 00:05:24,068 Speaker 4: Week one, the Chiefs put a banner up to celebrate 118 00:05:24,108 --> 00:05:26,348 Speaker 4: their super Bowl. If this is it, we're the team. 119 00:05:26,348 --> 00:05:28,668 Speaker 4: It's gonna be a Chiefs coordination. You're giving the Lions. 120 00:05:28,748 --> 00:05:30,988 Speaker 4: The Lions might be a nice story, a little over 121 00:05:31,028 --> 00:05:32,948 Speaker 4: their heads here to give them. Week one, they go 122 00:05:33,108 --> 00:05:36,548 Speaker 4: into Arrowhead Week one, Travis Kelce not on the field, 123 00:05:37,588 --> 00:05:38,468 Speaker 4: and they beat them. 124 00:05:38,788 --> 00:05:39,388 Speaker 2: They beat them. 125 00:05:39,468 --> 00:05:42,388 Speaker 4: How about last week the Vikings? If the Vikings went out, 126 00:05:42,428 --> 00:05:43,428 Speaker 4: they are still in the playoffs. 127 00:05:43,428 --> 00:05:44,388 Speaker 2: They can still win the NSCNR. 128 00:05:44,748 --> 00:05:48,388 Speaker 4: They go into Minnesota and they take care of business 129 00:05:48,628 --> 00:05:51,588 Speaker 4: and Gibbs is breaking ankles and Justin Jefferson can have 130 00:05:51,588 --> 00:05:54,228 Speaker 4: a thousand yards and yet who spoiled the party? 131 00:05:54,468 --> 00:05:55,028 Speaker 2: The Lions. 132 00:05:55,068 --> 00:05:57,468 Speaker 4: They are the party spoilers. I'm wearing this Jamier gives 133 00:05:57,468 --> 00:06:00,188 Speaker 4: Angry Runs t shirt today because I think we're all 134 00:06:00,228 --> 00:06:03,068 Speaker 4: ready to just say Cowboys will win this one. The 135 00:06:03,148 --> 00:06:05,188 Speaker 4: Lions have already clinched. They've We've got nothing really to 136 00:06:05,188 --> 00:06:07,228 Speaker 4: play for. The Cowboys have everything to play for. They're 137 00:06:07,228 --> 00:06:10,828 Speaker 4: still in the NFC East. The Lions can flip the table. 138 00:06:10,908 --> 00:06:13,388 Speaker 4: That's what they do. They did it last year against 139 00:06:13,468 --> 00:06:15,868 Speaker 4: the Packers. They did it this year against the Chiefs, 140 00:06:15,868 --> 00:06:18,228 Speaker 4: and they did it last week against the Vikings in Minnesota. 141 00:06:18,308 --> 00:06:21,108 Speaker 4: They like going on the road and ruining your coronation. 142 00:06:21,268 --> 00:06:23,108 Speaker 4: I think the Lions can come ready to play, and 143 00:06:23,108 --> 00:06:24,468 Speaker 4: I think Campbell gets them up to play. 144 00:06:24,668 --> 00:06:26,028 Speaker 2: I think the Lions are going to win this game. 145 00:06:26,508 --> 00:06:30,348 Speaker 5: But Peter, the Cowboys are at home. They're undefeated at home, 146 00:06:30,468 --> 00:06:33,108 Speaker 5: they score one thousand points. Weren't at home and Dak 147 00:06:33,148 --> 00:06:35,988 Speaker 5: Prescott and the whole crew. And to your point, I 148 00:06:36,028 --> 00:06:38,308 Speaker 5: look at this game, you say, what's going to decide it? 149 00:06:38,468 --> 00:06:41,948 Speaker 5: I look at the Detroit Lions backfield, David Montgomery and 150 00:06:42,068 --> 00:06:44,948 Speaker 5: Jamier Gibbs. These two guys, if they're going to win 151 00:06:44,988 --> 00:06:47,548 Speaker 5: this game, it's going to be on the backs of them, 152 00:06:47,668 --> 00:06:50,828 Speaker 5: because you look at what Detroit Detroit Lions football is 153 00:06:50,868 --> 00:06:52,908 Speaker 5: made of. You think of Dan Campbell, you think of 154 00:06:52,988 --> 00:06:55,908 Speaker 5: great you think of toughness, a downhill running back in 155 00:06:55,988 --> 00:06:58,988 Speaker 5: David Montgomery but you can't confuse it with just that. 156 00:06:59,188 --> 00:07:01,948 Speaker 5: As tough as Dan Campbell is, this is an offense 157 00:07:01,948 --> 00:07:05,588 Speaker 5: in a team that Jamier Gibbs represents, the electricity that 158 00:07:05,628 --> 00:07:07,748 Speaker 5: they have the ability to hand the ball off to 159 00:07:07,828 --> 00:07:09,668 Speaker 5: him and he breaks a seventy yard run or he 160 00:07:09,748 --> 00:07:12,668 Speaker 5: snatches somebody's ankles. I think it's these two guys when 161 00:07:12,668 --> 00:07:15,628 Speaker 5: you're attacking Dallas's defense. We know of Michael Parsons, we 162 00:07:15,668 --> 00:07:17,948 Speaker 5: know off DeMarcus Lawrence and their ability to get after 163 00:07:17,988 --> 00:07:20,268 Speaker 5: the quarterback. The way to defeat them is to run 164 00:07:20,308 --> 00:07:23,708 Speaker 5: the ball downhill directly at them. We watched Buffalo do 165 00:07:23,748 --> 00:07:26,228 Speaker 5: it a few weeks ago when they were in Buffalo, 166 00:07:26,388 --> 00:07:28,708 Speaker 5: and we watched James Cook have the game of his 167 00:07:28,828 --> 00:07:30,868 Speaker 5: life and it was built off handing the ball and 168 00:07:30,948 --> 00:07:32,508 Speaker 5: running behind your offensive line. 169 00:07:32,548 --> 00:07:34,628 Speaker 2: So I'm looking at this game. Sorry. What is going 170 00:07:34,668 --> 00:07:35,268 Speaker 2: to be the factor? 171 00:07:35,308 --> 00:07:37,428 Speaker 5: I think is ken The Cowboys stopped the Lions in 172 00:07:37,468 --> 00:07:39,548 Speaker 5: their run game because these two guys I think it 173 00:07:39,548 --> 00:07:41,388 Speaker 5: was one hundred and thirty four yards they combined for 174 00:07:41,748 --> 00:07:44,268 Speaker 5: this past week, one eighty five the week before that 175 00:07:44,468 --> 00:07:47,428 Speaker 5: against the Denver Broncos. Gibbs and Montgomery, those are going 176 00:07:47,468 --> 00:07:49,148 Speaker 5: to be the two headed monster that lead Detroit. 177 00:07:49,188 --> 00:07:50,148 Speaker 2: They're a bit to win this game. 178 00:07:50,508 --> 00:07:52,828 Speaker 1: Two very good teams, both headed to the playoffs. I 179 00:07:52,868 --> 00:07:54,788 Speaker 1: think it comes down to coaching. I look at Dan Campbell, 180 00:07:54,988 --> 00:07:57,588 Speaker 1: see Peter. I think the Lions already had their coordination. 181 00:07:57,908 --> 00:07:59,628 Speaker 1: I want to know where they're going from here. Let's 182 00:07:59,668 --> 00:08:01,828 Speaker 1: go back a month for the Detroit Lions. It's not 183 00:08:01,908 --> 00:08:04,188 Speaker 1: going well. They lose to the Bears. You're starting to 184 00:08:04,228 --> 00:08:06,708 Speaker 1: hear same old Lions. It's kind of falling apart. Dan 185 00:08:06,788 --> 00:08:09,508 Speaker 1: Campbell has this big emotional game against the Broncos, and 186 00:08:09,508 --> 00:08:13,188 Speaker 1: Sean Payton's mentor crushed them, just absolutely crushed them, probably 187 00:08:13,548 --> 00:08:16,548 Speaker 1: and accelerated the end of the Russell Wilson thing. Next week, 188 00:08:16,588 --> 00:08:19,108 Speaker 1: you beat Minnesota, you're the champs. You're having a home 189 00:08:19,148 --> 00:08:21,548 Speaker 1: playoff game. You did it, You did it. Very easy 190 00:08:21,588 --> 00:08:23,348 Speaker 1: to show up in Dallas and Lowise just show up 191 00:08:23,388 --> 00:08:24,428 Speaker 1: and what the hell for? 192 00:08:24,588 --> 00:08:26,828 Speaker 2: Man? Like, we've already accomplished it. We're already gonna be 193 00:08:26,828 --> 00:08:27,308 Speaker 2: the champs. 194 00:08:27,428 --> 00:08:28,948 Speaker 1: Sure we could have the one seed, but I think 195 00:08:28,988 --> 00:08:30,708 Speaker 1: mentally I'd like to see how the lines show up 196 00:08:30,708 --> 00:08:33,868 Speaker 1: in this game, because this is a Campbell motivation type week. 197 00:08:33,868 --> 00:08:37,588 Speaker 1: Gotta stay up gotta stay strong, gotta stay hungry. Also 198 00:08:37,708 --> 00:08:39,468 Speaker 1: this time of the year, Jason, back me up here. 199 00:08:39,628 --> 00:08:41,588 Speaker 1: It's one of the players maybe get a little tired 200 00:08:41,628 --> 00:08:43,708 Speaker 1: of hearing the same voice this week after week, month 201 00:08:43,748 --> 00:08:46,068 Speaker 1: after month. Especially if that voice is that voice and 202 00:08:46,068 --> 00:08:47,908 Speaker 1: it's very loud and it can maybe wear on you 203 00:08:47,988 --> 00:08:50,148 Speaker 1: a little bit. You got to try to hit different beats, 204 00:08:50,188 --> 00:08:52,188 Speaker 1: different notes. That's when you, like, you try a different 205 00:08:52,188 --> 00:08:55,508 Speaker 1: motivational strategy. You have someone else speak, but they've had 206 00:08:55,508 --> 00:08:57,468 Speaker 1: two weeks in kick ass football, and now you go 207 00:08:57,508 --> 00:09:00,268 Speaker 1: to Dallas and pretty much you're rich, you know, like 208 00:09:00,388 --> 00:09:02,508 Speaker 1: you've done it. Like you print the t shirts, print 209 00:09:02,508 --> 00:09:03,868 Speaker 1: the hats. We've already got them. We're going out on 210 00:09:03,868 --> 00:09:06,468 Speaker 1: a playoff game. Smoked a cigar and without like, sure, 211 00:09:06,508 --> 00:09:07,668 Speaker 1: we'd love to win this game, but it is the 212 00:09:07,748 --> 00:09:08,188 Speaker 1: end of the world. 213 00:09:08,188 --> 00:09:09,388 Speaker 2: Hes there a lot of pressure on us to win 214 00:09:09,388 --> 00:09:09,788 Speaker 2: this game. 215 00:09:10,028 --> 00:09:13,668 Speaker 1: Not really, Oh darn, we lost thirty seven to twenty six. 216 00:09:13,788 --> 00:09:17,108 Speaker 2: Don't do that, don't do that. Get this game. Be greedy. 217 00:09:17,268 --> 00:09:19,308 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the Lions finished thirteen and four and 218 00:09:19,308 --> 00:09:22,268 Speaker 1: at the damn one seed, Like that's what you're going for. 219 00:09:22,348 --> 00:09:24,348 Speaker 1: If it's If it's not it's never enough. So I 220 00:09:24,388 --> 00:09:26,348 Speaker 1: look at Campbell, how does the team show up early? 221 00:09:26,548 --> 00:09:28,428 Speaker 1: Are they a little flat? Are they a little laca 222 00:09:28,508 --> 00:09:31,308 Speaker 1: days ago? Or does Campbell have them even despite the success, 223 00:09:31,628 --> 00:09:34,308 Speaker 1: looking to slit somebody's throat, like that's what Dan Campbell wants. 224 00:09:34,348 --> 00:09:35,708 Speaker 2: Well, see if they show up. I'm looking at him. 225 00:09:35,748 --> 00:09:37,908 Speaker 3: Yeah, but everyone's voice sounds a little less annoying when 226 00:09:37,908 --> 00:09:40,228 Speaker 3: you've won eleven games, So I feel like while his 227 00:09:40,308 --> 00:09:43,188 Speaker 3: motivation yeah, may get old at times or great on 228 00:09:43,268 --> 00:09:44,828 Speaker 3: you like, they're winning and it's working. 229 00:09:44,908 --> 00:09:45,508 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 230 00:09:45,588 --> 00:09:47,548 Speaker 3: Maybe that works if it's like an eleven loss season, 231 00:09:47,588 --> 00:09:49,548 Speaker 3: but maybe not if it's eleven win season. All right, 232 00:09:49,588 --> 00:09:53,468 Speaker 3: so let's talk Dallas specifically the quarterback or the defense. 233 00:09:54,428 --> 00:09:56,988 Speaker 3: That sound from Dak Prescott was interesting because the first 234 00:09:57,028 --> 00:09:58,908 Speaker 3: word we heard out of his mouth, he goes, well, 235 00:09:58,948 --> 00:10:01,028 Speaker 3: we're pissed. If you want to ask how the locker 236 00:10:01,108 --> 00:10:03,908 Speaker 3: room is. I'm curious how pissed Dak Prescott is because 237 00:10:04,068 --> 00:10:06,828 Speaker 3: we have essentially written Dak Prescott off from that MVP 238 00:10:06,948 --> 00:10:09,388 Speaker 3: conversation dead and don you lost these two games. You 239 00:10:09,468 --> 00:10:12,988 Speaker 3: were terrible at Buffalo and Lamar Jackson is kind of 240 00:10:12,988 --> 00:10:15,668 Speaker 3: the come running guy in the MVP conversation. But to 241 00:10:15,708 --> 00:10:18,788 Speaker 3: look at this one more time, those are stack comparisons 242 00:10:18,788 --> 00:10:23,508 Speaker 3: where Dak is leading and dang near every category besides 243 00:10:23,548 --> 00:10:26,388 Speaker 3: the rushing yards thing. Can Dak have a campaign, Peter 244 00:10:26,508 --> 00:10:28,788 Speaker 3: in the last two weeks where he explodes because the 245 00:10:28,828 --> 00:10:29,828 Speaker 3: story is a real thing. 246 00:10:30,028 --> 00:10:31,468 Speaker 2: But can the story be in the. 247 00:10:31,388 --> 00:10:33,628 Speaker 3: Final two weeks of his season he just goes off 248 00:10:33,668 --> 00:10:37,028 Speaker 3: and turn just proves himself. Or do you think the 249 00:10:37,068 --> 00:10:39,228 Speaker 3: defense is going to be where it's at for Dallas. 250 00:10:39,308 --> 00:10:41,508 Speaker 4: I don't think Dak can win MVP. I know it's 251 00:10:41,628 --> 00:10:43,588 Speaker 4: it's empirically. You can look at the numbers, and a 252 00:10:43,628 --> 00:10:44,788 Speaker 4: lot of people have done this, he said, Well, look 253 00:10:44,788 --> 00:10:48,028 Speaker 4: at Biker Mayfield's numbers compared to Lamar Jackson's. Baker's numbers 254 00:10:48,028 --> 00:10:51,548 Speaker 4: have been better than It's just it's not a stat 255 00:10:51,628 --> 00:10:53,988 Speaker 4: driven thing, not in your heart. It's a narrative thing, 256 00:10:53,988 --> 00:10:56,428 Speaker 4: and it's voted on not by players, not by coaches, 257 00:10:56,788 --> 00:10:59,308 Speaker 4: by writers who look for stories. And I don't think 258 00:10:59,308 --> 00:11:01,748 Speaker 4: the Dak Prescott story this year, even if they win 259 00:11:01,788 --> 00:11:04,148 Speaker 4: the final two games, is gonna warrant him the MVP. 260 00:11:04,268 --> 00:11:06,508 Speaker 4: I actually think the defense is more important this weekend too, 261 00:11:06,508 --> 00:11:08,668 Speaker 4: I think Dak's gonna play well. He's played well all season. 262 00:11:08,708 --> 00:11:10,308 Speaker 4: He's going to be great at home as he always is. 263 00:11:10,708 --> 00:11:12,268 Speaker 4: The defense needs to find a way to stop this 264 00:11:12,308 --> 00:11:15,068 Speaker 4: Ben Johnson offense with like you said, Gibson Montgomery, but 265 00:11:15,108 --> 00:11:18,428 Speaker 4: also a mon Ross, Saint Brown and Jamison Williams and Laporta. 266 00:11:18,948 --> 00:11:20,188 Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a shootout, and I 267 00:11:20,228 --> 00:11:21,548 Speaker 4: think the defense needs to make a stop. 268 00:11:21,748 --> 00:11:25,828 Speaker 1: I look at this season has been a season of sanity's. 269 00:11:26,148 --> 00:11:29,788 Speaker 1: You know, we had Dobbs sanity. Jake Browning was running 270 00:11:29,828 --> 00:11:32,308 Speaker 1: the world. Tommy DeVito remember when the face of the 271 00:11:32,428 --> 00:11:36,948 Speaker 1: NFL was Deron Bland. We had Bland sanity and it 272 00:11:37,028 --> 00:11:39,948 Speaker 1: went through Thanksgiving and he would have a pick six 273 00:11:40,028 --> 00:11:42,548 Speaker 1: every five minutes and the kettle and it was like, 274 00:11:42,628 --> 00:11:45,188 Speaker 1: oh my god, can a defensive player at cornerback for 275 00:11:45,228 --> 00:11:46,268 Speaker 1: the Cowboys win MVP. 276 00:11:46,868 --> 00:11:48,348 Speaker 2: There was a night against the Seahawks. 277 00:11:48,388 --> 00:11:49,908 Speaker 1: It didn't go that well and a lot of the 278 00:11:49,988 --> 00:11:53,148 Speaker 1: Bland sanity ended because dkn Metcalf like just did on 279 00:11:53,188 --> 00:11:55,628 Speaker 1: Holy dk Metcalf's things. It's tough to play dB in 280 00:11:55,628 --> 00:11:59,348 Speaker 1: the NFL, and I'm like, this is dry blandbant on. 281 00:11:59,388 --> 00:12:00,228 Speaker 2: The team did they cut him. 282 00:12:00,228 --> 00:12:02,188 Speaker 1: I haven't heard his name in six weeks. He's out there, 283 00:12:02,268 --> 00:12:05,268 Speaker 1: he's playing. He's not targeted that much, but he's gonna 284 00:12:05,268 --> 00:12:07,908 Speaker 1: be in this game. I would love a resurgence, a 285 00:12:07,948 --> 00:12:10,668 Speaker 1: Bland of Sans maybe if from the Sanity to the 286 00:12:10,868 --> 00:12:13,428 Speaker 1: Sants you mentioned on My Saint Brown. He comes out 287 00:12:13,468 --> 00:12:15,908 Speaker 1: of the huddle making catches. They got all kinds of weapons. 288 00:12:16,068 --> 00:12:18,468 Speaker 1: Dron Bland, there was a time, and it was November 289 00:12:18,748 --> 00:12:21,388 Speaker 1: when you were like, this guy's deon, It's unbelievable. It's 290 00:12:21,388 --> 00:12:24,228 Speaker 1: Dion and Reevas and Champ. I need a big Bland 291 00:12:24,628 --> 00:12:26,468 Speaker 1: Sons against the tread. I liked him to come back 292 00:12:26,548 --> 00:12:27,788 Speaker 1: just we were celebrating. 293 00:12:27,348 --> 00:12:29,508 Speaker 2: The songs, no doubt about it. I was. 294 00:12:29,588 --> 00:12:32,388 Speaker 5: I couldn't singing his praises any louder. And we haven't 295 00:12:32,428 --> 00:12:34,828 Speaker 5: heard from him. But I'm looking at Dak, and of 296 00:12:34,868 --> 00:12:36,868 Speaker 5: course I think the Dallas defense they have to respond 297 00:12:36,908 --> 00:12:39,028 Speaker 5: after giving up the drive to Miami last week after 298 00:12:39,068 --> 00:12:41,708 Speaker 5: Jack drove him down there. But Dak has been so 299 00:12:41,868 --> 00:12:44,108 Speaker 5: good at home in this offense, and the Lions defense 300 00:12:44,148 --> 00:12:46,428 Speaker 5: has struggled. I mean, Nick Mullins gave the ball away 301 00:12:46,468 --> 00:12:48,468 Speaker 5: to him multiple times. He also threw for four hundred 302 00:12:48,508 --> 00:12:51,068 Speaker 5: yards in that game this past week. So I think 303 00:12:51,108 --> 00:12:52,748 Speaker 5: if Dak Prescott's able to go out there and have 304 00:12:52,788 --> 00:12:55,028 Speaker 5: the type of game that we saw over the last 305 00:12:55,068 --> 00:12:57,428 Speaker 5: several weeks until he ran into Buffalo and then the 306 00:12:57,548 --> 00:12:59,588 Speaker 5: drive that he had in Miami to give them the league, 307 00:12:59,708 --> 00:13:01,668 Speaker 5: I think that's gonna be what gets him over the top. 308 00:13:01,708 --> 00:13:04,268 Speaker 5: And I actually think you saying the Lions, I think 309 00:13:04,628 --> 00:13:06,548 Speaker 5: Cowboys can win this game because I think Dak can 310 00:13:06,588 --> 00:13:08,388 Speaker 5: go out there and have one hell of a game 311 00:13:08,428 --> 00:13:09,068 Speaker 5: in a shootout. 312 00:13:09,068 --> 00:13:11,748 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's gonna be fantastic Saturday. It was our a 313 00:13:11,828 --> 00:13:13,348 Speaker 3: fleet of ESPN people are going to. 314 00:13:13,348 --> 00:13:15,268 Speaker 4: Provide Walter Walls. 315 00:13:15,508 --> 00:13:18,108 Speaker 3: They prepare for a bull season exactly. 316 00:13:17,868 --> 00:13:19,748 Speaker 2: Usually make game predictions in the middle of the week. 317 00:13:19,788 --> 00:13:22,748 Speaker 4: Renow is that No, you did. 318 00:13:22,668 --> 00:13:26,988 Speaker 3: It, Jim, because Peter's a party spoiler sometimes, so he's 319 00:13:26,988 --> 00:13:32,028 Speaker 3: still Yeah, Tom Helasero, good morning to you. Less thrilling 320 00:13:32,108 --> 00:13:35,068 Speaker 3: news out of Denver emerged yesterday. What is the latest 321 00:13:35,108 --> 00:13:36,348 Speaker 3: with their quarterback. 322 00:13:36,508 --> 00:13:40,228 Speaker 7: Jamie The Broncos are benching Russell Wilson and will start 323 00:13:40,388 --> 00:13:44,708 Speaker 7: Jarrett Stidham on Sunday against the Chargers. I am told 324 00:13:44,788 --> 00:13:48,548 Speaker 7: that Wilson was shocked. He was hurt by the decision. 325 00:13:48,908 --> 00:13:52,148 Speaker 7: The reality was, though, this was always a possibility if 326 00:13:52,228 --> 00:13:54,588 Speaker 7: twenty twenty three played out the way that it has 327 00:13:54,788 --> 00:13:57,188 Speaker 7: in Denver. Get a couple of different components here. One 328 00:13:57,228 --> 00:14:00,828 Speaker 7: of them is financial. The Broncos oh Wilson thirty nine 329 00:14:00,828 --> 00:14:04,108 Speaker 7: million dollars fully guaranteed in twenty twenty four. He also 330 00:14:04,148 --> 00:14:07,228 Speaker 7: has already seven million dollars in twenty twenty five that's 331 00:14:07,268 --> 00:14:10,988 Speaker 7: guaranteed for injury only until this coming March. In other words, 332 00:14:11,028 --> 00:14:15,148 Speaker 7: if Wilson were to continue playing and suffer a significant injury, 333 00:14:15,268 --> 00:14:17,308 Speaker 7: the Broncos could end up with on the hook for 334 00:14:17,348 --> 00:14:20,188 Speaker 7: that money two years from now. Having said that the 335 00:14:20,228 --> 00:14:22,948 Speaker 7: Broncos played Wilson the first fifteen games, he could have 336 00:14:22,988 --> 00:14:26,268 Speaker 7: gotten hurt at any point. There were various conversations at 337 00:14:26,308 --> 00:14:28,948 Speaker 7: different points about potentially adjusting that contract. 338 00:14:29,268 --> 00:14:30,508 Speaker 2: It did not happen. 339 00:14:30,868 --> 00:14:33,588 Speaker 7: The fact, though, that the Broncos are having Wilson active 340 00:14:33,588 --> 00:14:37,828 Speaker 7: as their number two quarterback behind Stidham, certainly points to 341 00:14:37,828 --> 00:14:40,828 Speaker 7: the fact that this is not entirely a financial decision, 342 00:14:40,868 --> 00:14:43,868 Speaker 7: because if something happens to Stidham, Wilson will be right 343 00:14:43,908 --> 00:14:47,468 Speaker 7: back in the lineup. The other component here is about football, 344 00:14:47,508 --> 00:14:50,308 Speaker 7: and as Sean Payton said yesterday, it's about trying to 345 00:14:50,348 --> 00:14:54,748 Speaker 7: find a spark for this offense. Wilson's personal statistics been 346 00:14:54,828 --> 00:14:57,188 Speaker 7: pretty solid through the course of this season. But the 347 00:14:57,188 --> 00:14:59,948 Speaker 7: reality is the Broncos are twenty fifth in total offense, 348 00:15:00,268 --> 00:15:03,708 Speaker 7: they are twenty fifth in passing offense. They can't change 349 00:15:03,748 --> 00:15:06,308 Speaker 7: out all the wide receivers, the whole offensive line. The 350 00:15:06,348 --> 00:15:09,348 Speaker 7: one move that they can make is at the quarterback position, 351 00:15:09,508 --> 00:15:11,948 Speaker 7: and so it will be Stidham coming in in the 352 00:15:11,988 --> 00:15:14,268 Speaker 7: same spot that he was a year ago take it 353 00:15:14,268 --> 00:15:16,868 Speaker 7: over for Derek Carr down the stretch. This all comes 354 00:15:17,188 --> 00:15:19,748 Speaker 7: at a time where the Broncos are still alive in 355 00:15:19,788 --> 00:15:21,748 Speaker 7: the playoff chase. They would have to win their next 356 00:15:21,748 --> 00:15:23,868 Speaker 7: two and either have the Chiefs lose two to win 357 00:15:23,908 --> 00:15:26,868 Speaker 7: the AFC West or else win these last two and 358 00:15:26,908 --> 00:15:29,268 Speaker 7: get a lot of help in the wild card race 359 00:15:29,668 --> 00:15:32,348 Speaker 7: Beyond this, as we go forward towards March, he're obviously 360 00:15:32,348 --> 00:15:35,068 Speaker 7: a big decision of Russell Wilson's future is looming, not 361 00:15:35,508 --> 00:15:38,388 Speaker 7: entirely out of the realm of possibility that Wilson could 362 00:15:38,428 --> 00:15:42,348 Speaker 7: be back in Denver, maybe with a restructured contract, Wilson, though, 363 00:15:42,388 --> 00:15:45,108 Speaker 7: got on Twitter slash x last night. Sounded like a 364 00:15:45,108 --> 00:15:48,748 Speaker 7: man moving on tweeting God's got me looking forward to 365 00:15:48,828 --> 00:15:52,348 Speaker 7: what's next. In other news, Texans quarterback c J. Stroud 366 00:15:52,388 --> 00:15:55,508 Speaker 7: returned to practice on a limited basis Wednesday for the 367 00:15:55,548 --> 00:15:59,628 Speaker 7: first time since he suffered a concussion back on December tenth. 368 00:15:59,788 --> 00:16:02,948 Speaker 7: Coach Tamiko Ryan said Stroud is in stage four of 369 00:16:03,028 --> 00:16:05,868 Speaker 7: the concussion Protocol. That's where you're allowed to practice on 370 00:16:05,908 --> 00:16:09,468 Speaker 7: a limited basis. The additional steps here move to full participation. 371 00:16:09,548 --> 00:16:11,628 Speaker 7: That could happen as soon as today. Make sure that 372 00:16:11,668 --> 00:16:14,988 Speaker 7: Stroud's body and his brain react well. If it does, 373 00:16:15,348 --> 00:16:17,988 Speaker 7: then he needs a final clearance from an independent neurologist. 374 00:16:18,068 --> 00:16:20,708 Speaker 7: Everything seems to be tracking for Stroud to be back 375 00:16:20,708 --> 00:16:24,428 Speaker 7: in the lineup for a huge game on Sunday against 376 00:16:24,428 --> 00:16:28,148 Speaker 7: the Titans. Meanwhile, Week seventeen kicks off tonight. It's the 377 00:16:28,268 --> 00:16:30,868 Speaker 7: Browns and the Jets, and we still have a question 378 00:16:31,228 --> 00:16:33,948 Speaker 7: about a guy for Cleveland who absolutely went off a 379 00:16:33,988 --> 00:16:36,828 Speaker 7: week ago. That is a Mari Cooper, the wide receiver 380 00:16:36,868 --> 00:16:39,788 Speaker 7: who is listed as questionable because of a heel injury. 381 00:16:40,188 --> 00:16:44,148 Speaker 7: My understanding is Cooper is hopeful that he's going to play, 382 00:16:44,228 --> 00:16:46,908 Speaker 7: but he's listed as questionable and status is truly up 383 00:16:46,948 --> 00:16:50,028 Speaker 7: in the air. These short weeks are tough. There may 384 00:16:50,108 --> 00:16:52,428 Speaker 7: or may not be a pregame workout. Cooper knows his 385 00:16:52,508 --> 00:16:55,628 Speaker 7: body really well. They'll get a better sense for Murray 386 00:16:55,628 --> 00:16:58,588 Speaker 7: Cooper's availability as we get closer to kickoff tonight. 387 00:17:06,148 --> 00:17:08,788 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to business to throw down Thursday. 388 00:17:08,828 --> 00:17:12,028 Speaker 3: We're gonna stay in Cleveland. I ask you guys this, Jason, 389 00:17:12,108 --> 00:17:14,828 Speaker 3: what is the better story so far this season? Is 390 00:17:14,868 --> 00:17:17,508 Speaker 3: it the off the couch, out of the carpool lane 391 00:17:17,828 --> 00:17:21,348 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco led Browns or is it the experience we 392 00:17:21,388 --> 00:17:23,988 Speaker 3: have seen from start to finish with the NFC Nors 393 00:17:24,068 --> 00:17:25,108 Speaker 3: champion Detroit Lions. 394 00:17:25,308 --> 00:17:27,628 Speaker 5: So happy for Joe flaccol You know it's Christmas time, 395 00:17:27,708 --> 00:17:30,748 Speaker 5: kids are home from school, It's Christmas break. He could 396 00:17:30,748 --> 00:17:31,948 Speaker 5: be at home all day. 397 00:17:32,148 --> 00:17:32,628 Speaker 2: Hell on Earth. 398 00:17:32,628 --> 00:17:36,668 Speaker 5: Think he's getting a chance to be out of football 399 00:17:36,748 --> 00:17:40,988 Speaker 5: and meetings as long as Yes, But I'm going with 400 00:17:41,068 --> 00:17:43,868 Speaker 5: the Detroit Lions as the better story. This is a 401 00:17:43,908 --> 00:17:46,908 Speaker 5: franchise that won their first division and thirty years has 402 00:17:46,948 --> 00:17:49,628 Speaker 5: been so long and they got an opportunity to do 403 00:17:49,668 --> 00:17:50,868 Speaker 5: that this season. 404 00:17:50,908 --> 00:17:51,588 Speaker 2: And you just look at it. 405 00:17:51,668 --> 00:17:53,708 Speaker 4: Daan Campbell's only in his third year, and he took 406 00:17:53,788 --> 00:17:54,668 Speaker 4: over where. 407 00:17:54,468 --> 00:17:56,988 Speaker 5: The Lions had finished fourth in the division for three 408 00:17:57,028 --> 00:17:58,828 Speaker 5: years prior, and then they were three and thirteen in 409 00:17:58,868 --> 00:18:01,508 Speaker 5: his first year, fourth in the division. And then next 410 00:18:01,508 --> 00:18:03,708 Speaker 5: thing you know, he has turned that thing around. They 411 00:18:03,708 --> 00:18:06,348 Speaker 5: are in first He's winning the division. That to me 412 00:18:06,468 --> 00:18:08,508 Speaker 5: is a huge fee. You watched him last week with 413 00:18:08,628 --> 00:18:11,468 Speaker 5: the T shirt and a hats on, and Aiden Hutchinson 414 00:18:11,508 --> 00:18:14,388 Speaker 5: and Alice Angeloni are dancing in the locker room. To me, 415 00:18:14,628 --> 00:18:16,948 Speaker 5: that is the greatest story going on right now. 416 00:18:17,628 --> 00:18:20,708 Speaker 2: Is different? Isn't it got some Kelsey in them? You 417 00:18:20,708 --> 00:18:22,428 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. He can move like this. 418 00:18:22,588 --> 00:18:27,908 Speaker 4: I like that he does. If I'm a Hollywood scriptwriter 419 00:18:27,988 --> 00:18:29,708 Speaker 4: and you're giving me these two scripts and you're saying, 420 00:18:29,708 --> 00:18:31,548 Speaker 4: which one is the better story, which one is perfect 421 00:18:31,548 --> 00:18:34,428 Speaker 4: for this time of year, I'm thinking it's carpool lane 422 00:18:34,508 --> 00:18:37,668 Speaker 4: dad writing coach in a flight to Cleveland to try 423 00:18:37,708 --> 00:18:39,348 Speaker 4: out for the team, and then is in the playoffs 424 00:18:39,348 --> 00:18:41,948 Speaker 4: in a couple of weeks. He's only played four games. 425 00:18:41,948 --> 00:18:43,628 Speaker 4: It feels like it's the story of the season. I 426 00:18:43,628 --> 00:18:47,228 Speaker 4: gotta go to the Browns. This Flacco story is so improbable. 427 00:18:47,588 --> 00:18:49,748 Speaker 4: The Lions, I'm not going to doubt that that was 428 00:18:49,788 --> 00:18:51,748 Speaker 4: cool and the first time they won since ninety three, 429 00:18:51,748 --> 00:18:54,348 Speaker 4: and it's a better team story, the Flacco story, specifically 430 00:18:54,348 --> 00:18:56,268 Speaker 4: because he's their fourth quarterback. 431 00:18:56,148 --> 00:18:58,868 Speaker 2: With down to like that's Kareem Hunt that he's handing 432 00:18:58,908 --> 00:18:59,308 Speaker 2: them like. 433 00:18:59,428 --> 00:19:03,268 Speaker 4: This team is just it's w who. They've lost two 434 00:19:03,268 --> 00:19:05,748 Speaker 4: of their starting offensive times. They don't flinch. They've lost 435 00:19:05,788 --> 00:19:08,828 Speaker 4: three quarterbacks. They don't flinch. They go to Flacco off 436 00:19:08,908 --> 00:19:11,428 Speaker 4: the couch and ten years removed from when he's Super 437 00:19:11,428 --> 00:19:13,228 Speaker 4: Bowl MVP, and I don't think he's won a playoff 438 00:19:13,268 --> 00:19:13,748 Speaker 4: game since. 439 00:19:13,988 --> 00:19:14,388 Speaker 2: I don't think. 440 00:19:14,588 --> 00:19:16,228 Speaker 4: I don't think the Ravens want another playoff game with 441 00:19:16,308 --> 00:19:18,708 Speaker 4: Flacco since that Super Bowl. He's going to be in 442 00:19:18,748 --> 00:19:21,508 Speaker 4: the playoffs again. They're gonna win tonight and then the Browns. 443 00:19:21,988 --> 00:19:22,388 Speaker 2: Who knows. 444 00:19:22,388 --> 00:19:23,548 Speaker 4: I don't want to face him. I got to go 445 00:19:24,028 --> 00:19:27,268 Speaker 4: and I'll ask the table this, m Can you win 446 00:19:27,348 --> 00:19:28,988 Speaker 4: Comeback Player of the Year if you play in just 447 00:19:29,028 --> 00:19:29,708 Speaker 4: six games? 448 00:19:30,148 --> 00:19:33,068 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm most curious about putting him on the list. 449 00:19:33,988 --> 00:19:35,708 Speaker 2: I think I think you can. 450 00:19:36,268 --> 00:19:38,828 Speaker 1: I mean, you could win it if there's not another 451 00:19:39,148 --> 00:19:41,668 Speaker 1: breakout candidate to win it, you know, I don't know 452 00:19:41,668 --> 00:19:42,788 Speaker 1: who that that Who's. 453 00:19:42,668 --> 00:19:44,828 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Joe Flacco might be an NFL Honors 454 00:19:44,828 --> 00:19:46,668 Speaker 4: if he's not playing in the Super Bowl and accepting 455 00:19:46,668 --> 00:19:48,628 Speaker 4: Comeback Player of the Year despite only playing in the 456 00:19:48,628 --> 00:19:49,308 Speaker 4: month of December. 457 00:19:49,348 --> 00:19:51,628 Speaker 2: Well, what's the DraftKings o on Comeback Player of the Year? Right? 458 00:19:51,788 --> 00:19:52,148 Speaker 2: I don't know. 459 00:19:52,628 --> 00:19:54,828 Speaker 4: Does the fact that Hamlin stepped on the field just 460 00:19:54,868 --> 00:19:56,628 Speaker 4: give him the award? And it's such a weird thing 461 00:19:56,628 --> 00:19:57,068 Speaker 4: to debate. 462 00:19:57,348 --> 00:19:58,228 Speaker 2: I think I think the. 463 00:19:58,188 --> 00:20:01,028 Speaker 1: Mar Hamlin's been highly decorated and rewarded in Herald it 464 00:20:01,068 --> 00:20:01,628 Speaker 1: as he should. 465 00:20:01,668 --> 00:20:04,068 Speaker 2: The Flacco one. Is there anyone else's? 466 00:20:04,108 --> 00:20:08,268 Speaker 3: Actually? According to many betting sites, Flacco is second right now? 467 00:20:08,348 --> 00:20:10,108 Speaker 4: Who tomorrow? 468 00:20:10,948 --> 00:20:15,428 Speaker 3: And other others on the list are Baker, Mayfield, Stafford. 469 00:20:14,948 --> 00:20:20,668 Speaker 1: And Tua does Yeah, but listen, as you know, Peter, 470 00:20:20,788 --> 00:20:22,468 Speaker 1: most scripts right now written by AI. 471 00:20:22,748 --> 00:20:23,628 Speaker 2: If the AI. 472 00:20:23,508 --> 00:20:26,708 Speaker 1: Returned the script saying Joe Flacco, we'll be like, no, 473 00:20:26,828 --> 00:20:27,668 Speaker 1: that's stupid, That's not. 474 00:20:27,588 --> 00:20:29,068 Speaker 2: Gonna happen with you idiots again. 475 00:20:29,148 --> 00:20:31,948 Speaker 1: This is Joe Flacco with the Browns and your tear 476 00:20:31,988 --> 00:20:34,748 Speaker 1: me shut up. I think it's Flacco too, you know why, 477 00:20:34,948 --> 00:20:36,948 Speaker 1: because the lines did what they're damn supposed to do. 478 00:20:37,268 --> 00:20:39,028 Speaker 2: That's not that great of a story. 479 00:20:39,068 --> 00:20:41,188 Speaker 1: And I won't patronize them by saying how cute there 480 00:20:41,188 --> 00:20:41,828 Speaker 1: that they won it. 481 00:20:41,948 --> 00:20:43,868 Speaker 2: They were the favorites going in to win it. They 482 00:20:43,908 --> 00:20:46,588 Speaker 2: ended last year in a fury, they executed, they won. 483 00:20:46,908 --> 00:20:49,428 Speaker 2: That is not a great story. It's it's it's just 484 00:20:49,708 --> 00:20:50,788 Speaker 2: good football, that's all. 485 00:20:50,828 --> 00:20:53,308 Speaker 1: It is the story of Joe Flacco on the damn 486 00:20:53,388 --> 00:20:55,868 Speaker 1: And how about this story? What if just hear me 487 00:20:55,868 --> 00:21:03,188 Speaker 1: out AFC title game Brown's Ravens with Flacco going to Baltimore. 488 00:21:03,188 --> 00:21:05,388 Speaker 1: We've already talked about Staff going back to Detroit in 489 00:21:05,388 --> 00:21:05,948 Speaker 1: the NFC. 490 00:21:06,508 --> 00:21:07,708 Speaker 2: Flacco going back to. 491 00:21:07,708 --> 00:21:10,588 Speaker 1: Baltimore and the AFC, that be incredible. Imagine if he 492 00:21:10,628 --> 00:21:12,628 Speaker 1: does that place. I think it's the Flacco. I like 493 00:21:12,668 --> 00:21:14,748 Speaker 1: the Lions, but they're so good they don't they're not 494 00:21:14,788 --> 00:21:16,748 Speaker 1: deserving of This is such a cute story. 495 00:21:16,748 --> 00:21:18,668 Speaker 2: I look Flacco that. 496 00:21:18,908 --> 00:21:20,068 Speaker 3: The question is a cute story? 497 00:21:20,428 --> 00:21:23,348 Speaker 2: Story? Better story? My answer is Flacco in a runaway. 498 00:21:23,468 --> 00:21:26,148 Speaker 3: You can't deny the Lions just because yes, they are 499 00:21:26,188 --> 00:21:29,228 Speaker 3: playing good football. The people of Detroit have been waiting 500 00:21:29,268 --> 00:21:31,388 Speaker 3: for this, just the way we would treat the Cowboys 501 00:21:31,428 --> 00:21:33,348 Speaker 3: as a great story and a great turn turn around. 502 00:21:33,348 --> 00:21:35,788 Speaker 3: Thirty years later, you still have to allow the Lions 503 00:21:35,788 --> 00:21:38,468 Speaker 3: for it to be a story despite it being really 504 00:21:38,508 --> 00:21:42,148 Speaker 3: good football. The experience of a Lions fan from Detroit 505 00:21:42,228 --> 00:21:45,788 Speaker 3: or wherever you may be has been incredible. Joe Flacco, 506 00:21:45,868 --> 00:21:48,868 Speaker 3: while he has a great following the Lions, just the 507 00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:51,468 Speaker 3: fan base in general, they are living a fairy tale 508 00:21:51,548 --> 00:21:54,028 Speaker 3: right now in the turnaround that have however long it's been. 509 00:21:54,828 --> 00:21:58,468 Speaker 2: All right, it's not just cute the fairytale lines. 510 00:21:58,508 --> 00:22:00,828 Speaker 1: Man's your fairy godmin I came and magically gave you 511 00:22:00,868 --> 00:22:02,468 Speaker 1: I don't know, don't eat good. 512 00:22:02,548 --> 00:22:03,028 Speaker 2: It exists. 513 00:22:03,228 --> 00:22:05,548 Speaker 3: Both can exist. It can be good story and good 514 00:22:05,588 --> 00:22:07,428 Speaker 3: football at the same time. Right, let's head out to 515 00:22:07,548 --> 00:22:10,748 Speaker 3: La where the Rams have had some big contributions from rookies, 516 00:22:10,788 --> 00:22:15,428 Speaker 3: but none other than Peter's guy September eighth, He just throwaway. 517 00:22:15,068 --> 00:22:16,828 Speaker 2: Line Pooka Nkua. 518 00:22:16,948 --> 00:22:19,068 Speaker 3: Now Pooka's got two games up of the schedule and 519 00:22:19,148 --> 00:22:22,428 Speaker 3: as you can see, some rookie records are well within reach. 520 00:22:22,588 --> 00:22:24,988 Speaker 3: Took great full screen with great names on it. Right now, 521 00:22:25,228 --> 00:22:26,828 Speaker 3: who do you think is the better shot at winning 522 00:22:26,908 --> 00:22:30,628 Speaker 3: Offensive Rookie of the Year Poka Nukua or what we 523 00:22:30,708 --> 00:22:32,988 Speaker 3: thought was a longtime front runner for the way he 524 00:22:33,028 --> 00:22:36,468 Speaker 3: started seventy five percent of his season rookie quarterback for 525 00:22:36,468 --> 00:22:37,308 Speaker 3: the Texans, CJS. 526 00:22:37,948 --> 00:22:41,028 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, Yes, I love some Pooka Nicola. 527 00:22:41,108 --> 00:22:43,028 Speaker 5: The way he plays the game, the toughness and all 528 00:22:43,068 --> 00:22:46,588 Speaker 5: of that. I'm gonna go CJ. Stroud on this one. 529 00:22:46,628 --> 00:22:48,428 Speaker 5: And what you just said, he was a front runner 530 00:22:48,468 --> 00:22:50,388 Speaker 5: for most of the season, and I'll just look at 531 00:22:50,468 --> 00:22:53,348 Speaker 5: the story of what could be for the Houston Texans 532 00:22:53,588 --> 00:22:55,068 Speaker 5: as we stand here right now. 533 00:22:55,108 --> 00:22:55,908 Speaker 2: Today, c J. 534 00:22:56,028 --> 00:22:58,388 Speaker 5: Shroud goes down against the New York Jets, he misses 535 00:22:58,428 --> 00:23:01,388 Speaker 5: two games. Case Keenum comes in, he beats the Tennessee Titans, 536 00:23:01,388 --> 00:23:04,628 Speaker 5: and they lose this past week to the Cleveland Browns Jays. 537 00:23:04,588 --> 00:23:07,988 Speaker 5: Stroud has been practicing. All arrows point to him returning 538 00:23:08,188 --> 00:23:11,748 Speaker 5: right now to Houston. Texans are in the eighth spot. 539 00:23:11,828 --> 00:23:14,148 Speaker 5: They're out of the playoffs right now. If they're able 540 00:23:14,148 --> 00:23:16,628 Speaker 5: to beat the Tennessee Titans, that gives him a Week 541 00:23:16,708 --> 00:23:20,068 Speaker 5: eighteen matchup against the Indianapolis Colts in a possible win. 542 00:23:20,188 --> 00:23:22,628 Speaker 5: And in scenario, I look at it and I think 543 00:23:22,668 --> 00:23:24,908 Speaker 5: I'm giving him the best case scenario because I'm saying, 544 00:23:24,948 --> 00:23:25,348 Speaker 5: if CJ. 545 00:23:25,428 --> 00:23:26,268 Speaker 2: Shaw can go out there. 546 00:23:26,228 --> 00:23:28,588 Speaker 5: And win these last two games and get his team 547 00:23:28,708 --> 00:23:31,828 Speaker 5: into the playoffs after missing two games with injury, I 548 00:23:31,948 --> 00:23:34,428 Speaker 5: think that is the story that propels him to the 549 00:23:34,508 --> 00:23:36,148 Speaker 5: Rookie of the Year and gives it back to him 550 00:23:36,348 --> 00:23:37,388 Speaker 5: over Pooka Nakula. 551 00:23:37,468 --> 00:23:38,108 Speaker 2: Here's my take. 552 00:23:38,588 --> 00:23:42,748 Speaker 4: Bill Groman is not the mark that's in nineteen sixty. 553 00:23:42,988 --> 00:23:45,428 Speaker 4: Let's go Super Bowl era here. We don't do nineteen 554 00:23:45,468 --> 00:23:48,388 Speaker 4: we don't do nineteen twenties stats. Bill Groman was for 555 00:23:48,428 --> 00:23:53,508 Speaker 4: the nineteen sixties Oilers. The stat there is too far behind. Okay, 556 00:23:53,508 --> 00:23:57,028 Speaker 4: that's a Jefferson record, and Waddle is one hundred and four. 557 00:23:57,188 --> 00:23:59,588 Speaker 4: That's in seventeen games. If you want to go just 558 00:23:59,708 --> 00:24:02,268 Speaker 4: sixteen games, it's one oh one. That's in Kwan Bolden. 559 00:24:02,268 --> 00:24:03,748 Speaker 4: He could break that with six catches. 560 00:24:04,428 --> 00:24:05,628 Speaker 5: Groman family is piss right. 561 00:24:05,748 --> 00:24:07,948 Speaker 4: Groman did it like I don't even know what that 562 00:24:08,428 --> 00:24:11,068 Speaker 4: Darryl Lamonica throwing him pass this I can't give you, Groman. 563 00:24:11,108 --> 00:24:13,108 Speaker 4: I want to do Super Bowl era where the league 564 00:24:13,148 --> 00:24:15,788 Speaker 4: had rules like we have now, and I'm gonna go 565 00:24:16,108 --> 00:24:18,828 Speaker 4: with Puka on this one. I think if Puka does it, 566 00:24:18,828 --> 00:24:22,348 Speaker 4: this week against the Giants in sixteen games, one more 567 00:24:22,388 --> 00:24:24,468 Speaker 4: time than full screen sixteen games. Let me see the 568 00:24:24,548 --> 00:24:27,148 Speaker 4: bath year? Is that Roman? Get out of here and 569 00:24:27,308 --> 00:24:29,948 Speaker 4: this one? These are not the right numbers. I don't 570 00:24:29,948 --> 00:24:31,388 Speaker 4: know what Groman did it like six games. I have 571 00:24:31,388 --> 00:24:33,588 Speaker 4: no idea who Groman is. I've did deep dive. I've 572 00:24:33,588 --> 00:24:36,148 Speaker 4: never heard of that person in my life. The researchers 573 00:24:36,148 --> 00:24:38,668 Speaker 4: found this from nineteen sixty. I want modern, and I 574 00:24:38,668 --> 00:24:41,428 Speaker 4: think it's justin Jefferson is modern and that's like fourteen 575 00:24:41,508 --> 00:24:42,188 Speaker 4: hundred yards. 576 00:24:42,228 --> 00:24:43,548 Speaker 2: So he's got to do that. 577 00:24:43,628 --> 00:24:46,308 Speaker 4: He's got to have about sixty yards against or ninety 578 00:24:46,388 --> 00:24:49,148 Speaker 4: yards against the Giants, and he needs like eight catches 579 00:24:49,668 --> 00:24:52,708 Speaker 4: to do the seventeen game. But the sixteen games, which 580 00:24:52,708 --> 00:24:55,148 Speaker 4: will be this week, it would be would be in 581 00:24:55,788 --> 00:24:57,548 Speaker 4: a one on one. If he breaks all those records, 582 00:24:57,548 --> 00:24:58,708 Speaker 4: how can you not go Puka. 583 00:24:58,788 --> 00:25:04,188 Speaker 1: Bill Groman undrafted out of something called Heidelberg like thirteen game. 584 00:25:04,508 --> 00:25:06,988 Speaker 2: So Bill Groman is thirteen game the greatest player ever. 585 00:25:07,108 --> 00:25:09,468 Speaker 1: They throw four passes a game, Grolman catches all four 586 00:25:09,468 --> 00:25:11,148 Speaker 1: of them and breaks it. You look at his picture, 587 00:25:11,348 --> 00:25:13,508 Speaker 1: it's one of these where he's like you know, or 588 00:25:13,548 --> 00:25:14,348 Speaker 1: he's like he's through. 589 00:25:14,148 --> 00:25:19,348 Speaker 5: The air, Like that's it always the same Raid magazine, 590 00:25:19,468 --> 00:25:19,748 Speaker 5: I know. 591 00:25:19,828 --> 00:25:22,308 Speaker 1: So like I feel like something's been taken from Groman, 592 00:25:22,388 --> 00:25:24,748 Speaker 1: Like the whole, the whole Groman family was rallying around 593 00:25:24,748 --> 00:25:25,228 Speaker 1: this record. 594 00:25:25,388 --> 00:25:26,548 Speaker 4: We need a Groman deep. 595 00:25:26,348 --> 00:25:27,028 Speaker 2: Dive, I think. 596 00:25:27,108 --> 00:25:29,028 Speaker 3: So that's some piece Roman. 597 00:25:29,108 --> 00:25:30,588 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually he's dead. It's fine. 598 00:25:30,668 --> 00:25:32,988 Speaker 1: We know that it's okay, but like we're not gonna have. 599 00:25:33,028 --> 00:25:33,588 Speaker 2: Him on the show. 600 00:25:34,308 --> 00:25:36,548 Speaker 1: But like you know, Puka shows up with this McVeigh 601 00:25:36,588 --> 00:25:37,668 Speaker 1: offense and staffed. 602 00:25:37,348 --> 00:25:39,028 Speaker 2: Did ding ding ding ding ding Dan GROLs Like I 603 00:25:39,148 --> 00:25:39,508 Speaker 2: could have. 604 00:25:39,428 --> 00:25:41,868 Speaker 1: Put up huge numbers if I played in the McBay system. 605 00:25:42,068 --> 00:25:44,828 Speaker 1: I stand with Groman. It's not Puka, it's not Stroud. 606 00:25:45,028 --> 00:25:48,588 Speaker 1: It is Bill Groman, nineteen sixty. Wherever you are, my friend. 607 00:25:48,428 --> 00:25:48,828 Speaker 2: I love you. 608 00:25:50,268 --> 00:25:53,628 Speaker 3: Didn't you use that full screen in faither? 609 00:25:54,068 --> 00:25:57,348 Speaker 1: Yeah, Peter Simms doesn't prepares on full screens or preview them, 610 00:25:57,348 --> 00:25:57,668 Speaker 1: and they. 611 00:25:57,588 --> 00:26:00,548 Speaker 2: Just I won sixteen games Super Bowl era. People have 612 00:26:00,548 --> 00:26:01,668 Speaker 2: been fired since then, Peter. 613 00:26:01,948 --> 00:26:04,388 Speaker 4: I've got a press. There's a whole there's a whole 614 00:26:04,428 --> 00:26:06,908 Speaker 4: graveyard of researchers who I have fired for wrong full screen. 615 00:26:06,988 --> 00:26:09,548 Speaker 2: I know PPR league Gruman would have lit it up 616 00:26:09,628 --> 00:26:13,068 Speaker 2: right now. No, he's all yards. Grouman is a grown man. 617 00:26:13,148 --> 00:26:13,828 Speaker 2: I tell you that. 618 00:26:17,348 --> 00:26:19,588 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcomea to Good Morning Football. We are pleased 619 00:26:19,588 --> 00:26:22,468 Speaker 3: now to be joined by longtime NFL defensive back and 620 00:26:22,508 --> 00:26:26,348 Speaker 3: of course, currently the NFL Executive vice president of Football Operations. 621 00:26:26,348 --> 00:26:28,348 Speaker 3: A warm welcome to our friend Troy Vince. 622 00:26:28,428 --> 00:26:31,108 Speaker 2: What a toy? What's up Troy? 623 00:26:31,748 --> 00:26:32,228 Speaker 4: How you doing? 624 00:26:32,348 --> 00:26:34,868 Speaker 8: Thanks for having me my crew that gets me through 625 00:26:34,868 --> 00:26:38,748 Speaker 8: every morning. Oh yes, come on, come on Morning football. 626 00:26:38,508 --> 00:26:41,508 Speaker 3: Like sirs, we are on board with those two teams. Troy. Okay, 627 00:26:41,588 --> 00:26:45,548 Speaker 3: So the excitement all time high for twenty four teams 628 00:26:45,588 --> 00:26:47,548 Speaker 3: still available. If you're a fan of any twenty four, 629 00:26:47,668 --> 00:26:49,748 Speaker 3: you're in it. This ties for the most in the 630 00:26:49,828 --> 00:26:54,108 Speaker 3: last twenty years where teams are still available contending for 631 00:26:54,148 --> 00:26:57,188 Speaker 3: a Lombardi. That's an incredible way to explain this season. 632 00:26:58,108 --> 00:27:00,068 Speaker 3: How does that make you feel about the way this 633 00:27:00,148 --> 00:27:01,188 Speaker 3: has gone this season? 634 00:27:01,708 --> 00:27:05,908 Speaker 8: Every team goes into the season hoping that last two 635 00:27:06,028 --> 00:27:09,468 Speaker 8: or three weeks do I have a shot? And mathematically 636 00:27:09,548 --> 00:27:14,988 Speaker 8: today twenty four teams mathematically still have a shot. You 637 00:27:15,108 --> 00:27:16,868 Speaker 8: want to just get in the game, whether you're the 638 00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:19,788 Speaker 8: one seed or you're the you know you're just getting 639 00:27:19,788 --> 00:27:21,628 Speaker 8: in that seventh you want. 640 00:27:21,468 --> 00:27:24,508 Speaker 2: To have a shot to play for the big one. HM. 641 00:27:25,068 --> 00:27:28,428 Speaker 8: It just I really credit the coaches, I really credit 642 00:27:28,468 --> 00:27:32,708 Speaker 8: the players here. Every game is so competitive. When you 643 00:27:32,788 --> 00:27:36,708 Speaker 8: hear people are teams thinking, no, that's not in the 644 00:27:36,748 --> 00:27:41,508 Speaker 8: player's mind. He's thinking I want to compete. He's auditioning 645 00:27:41,708 --> 00:27:46,988 Speaker 8: all the time. So it's like, I love seeing that 646 00:27:47,028 --> 00:27:48,948 Speaker 8: competitiveness weekend and week altum. 647 00:27:49,308 --> 00:27:51,508 Speaker 2: Well, to your point, there's this incredible statistic. 648 00:27:51,788 --> 00:27:53,908 Speaker 1: We're asked all the time, like who's your favorite Teamh's 649 00:27:53,908 --> 00:27:55,588 Speaker 1: your favorite team? And I say, I just want the 650 00:27:55,628 --> 00:27:57,868 Speaker 1: games to be good. I just want good game. Seventy 651 00:27:57,948 --> 00:28:00,388 Speaker 1: percent of the games this year have been within one 652 00:28:00,468 --> 00:28:01,828 Speaker 1: score in the fourth quarter. 653 00:28:02,188 --> 00:28:04,268 Speaker 2: What's that been like for you? And what are your 654 00:28:04,668 --> 00:28:05,708 Speaker 2: to the coaching. 655 00:28:05,868 --> 00:28:11,908 Speaker 8: Coaching strategy, players not giving up, and when you just 656 00:28:11,988 --> 00:28:15,548 Speaker 8: when you watch the game, and I'm watching every game. 657 00:28:16,628 --> 00:28:20,588 Speaker 8: If I see a game fourteen points in my we say, hey, 658 00:28:20,748 --> 00:28:24,228 Speaker 8: six minutes left, you got six minutes seventeen or less 659 00:28:24,868 --> 00:28:27,908 Speaker 8: with the right number of timeouts, got a shot. They 660 00:28:27,908 --> 00:28:32,508 Speaker 8: got a shot. Yeah, And it happens every week. Some 661 00:28:32,588 --> 00:28:34,868 Speaker 8: teams do it a little bit better, and I always 662 00:28:35,068 --> 00:28:37,548 Speaker 8: I just give I must give Pete Carroll. If you 663 00:28:37,828 --> 00:28:42,388 Speaker 8: the Seahawks are within ten points in the fourth quarter 664 00:28:42,468 --> 00:28:46,068 Speaker 8: with four minutes left, oh something, you know, like he's 665 00:28:46,108 --> 00:28:48,348 Speaker 8: going to find a way to make it happen. So 666 00:28:48,868 --> 00:28:51,028 Speaker 8: when I watch week in and week out, it's just 667 00:28:51,068 --> 00:28:55,228 Speaker 8: a beautiful thing to see. Strategically the right calls, the 668 00:28:55,308 --> 00:28:59,788 Speaker 8: right number of timeouts, players making the right the right 669 00:29:00,108 --> 00:29:03,988 Speaker 8: the right throws, or defensively making the right stops to 670 00:29:04,028 --> 00:29:04,828 Speaker 8: get off field. 671 00:29:04,908 --> 00:29:07,428 Speaker 4: So last two weeks its team has come back in 672 00:29:07,468 --> 00:29:09,548 Speaker 4: a final drive and they've had two different quarterbacks do it. 673 00:29:09,548 --> 00:29:11,788 Speaker 4: It's pretty good stuff from him. I'm going to kind 674 00:29:11,788 --> 00:29:14,108 Speaker 4: of lighten the mood a little bit from the You 675 00:29:14,148 --> 00:29:15,868 Speaker 4: also deal with a lot of the officials. Now, we 676 00:29:15,908 --> 00:29:18,788 Speaker 4: had so much fun with the facial expression of our 677 00:29:18,828 --> 00:29:21,348 Speaker 4: poor friend Alex Moore of the Empire during a Lamar 678 00:29:21,468 --> 00:29:26,068 Speaker 4: Jackson play this. We said, yes, you can't blame Alex, 679 00:29:26,108 --> 00:29:27,908 Speaker 4: he's in the right place. And then just things, you know, 680 00:29:27,948 --> 00:29:29,628 Speaker 4: would you say, Jason about you when you're backing up, 681 00:29:29,628 --> 00:29:30,628 Speaker 4: when you're back pedaling. 682 00:29:30,468 --> 00:29:32,228 Speaker 5: Got you got to keep your shoulder over your toes. 683 00:29:32,708 --> 00:29:35,628 Speaker 5: He's cruising right now, he's cruiser It got real payout. 684 00:29:36,428 --> 00:29:38,188 Speaker 4: So you are a great defensive back of yourself. You 685 00:29:38,268 --> 00:29:40,108 Speaker 4: know all about footwork, and you also not work with 686 00:29:40,148 --> 00:29:42,228 Speaker 4: the officials. Alex has had a great two years in 687 00:29:42,228 --> 00:29:42,668 Speaker 4: the league. 688 00:29:43,268 --> 00:29:46,228 Speaker 2: Christmas Day, Christmas Day, he didn't expect this to. 689 00:29:46,188 --> 00:29:49,108 Speaker 4: Go down, and that'd be the meme right there. You 690 00:29:49,188 --> 00:29:51,188 Speaker 4: know Alex, of course, but we also know how hard 691 00:29:51,188 --> 00:29:53,228 Speaker 4: these officials work. What was your reaction when you saw 692 00:29:53,228 --> 00:29:55,708 Speaker 4: this and have spoken to Alex at all about becoming 693 00:29:55,748 --> 00:29:56,548 Speaker 4: Internet famous. 694 00:29:56,628 --> 00:30:00,828 Speaker 8: Well, every player hopes not to be on the highlights 695 00:30:01,388 --> 00:30:03,908 Speaker 8: at the end of the game. Liked, don't that's what 696 00:30:04,028 --> 00:30:06,468 Speaker 8: you You don't want to end up. But I would 697 00:30:06,508 --> 00:30:08,868 Speaker 8: tell you, I think Jay hit it. You got to 698 00:30:08,868 --> 00:30:11,988 Speaker 8: bend at your waist, you got to keep your shoulders 699 00:30:11,988 --> 00:30:16,428 Speaker 8: over your toes. It's a great teaching tape of what 700 00:30:16,668 --> 00:30:18,868 Speaker 8: not to do. But I think at the end of it, 701 00:30:18,908 --> 00:30:22,868 Speaker 8: when we saw it real time, I think Alex's smile. Yeah, 702 00:30:23,268 --> 00:30:26,068 Speaker 8: it just brought some humor to it. So outside of 703 00:30:26,148 --> 00:30:27,268 Speaker 8: Lamar Lamar. 704 00:30:27,108 --> 00:30:33,348 Speaker 9: Jackson's play, Alex, Alex was the start anybody on skates, 705 00:30:33,428 --> 00:30:37,388 Speaker 9: Yes to anybody, shoulders over your toes, slight been at 706 00:30:37,388 --> 00:30:42,308 Speaker 9: your waist, slight bend at your knees or you would, Timber. 707 00:30:43,268 --> 00:30:45,548 Speaker 9: I mean you can see it real time, like here 708 00:30:45,588 --> 00:30:47,988 Speaker 9: he goes, here he goes, He's about to go. 709 00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:49,028 Speaker 3: Ah. 710 00:30:49,068 --> 00:30:52,068 Speaker 2: So Alex is just preparing for the playoffs. That right there. 711 00:30:52,068 --> 00:30:53,828 Speaker 5: You know the best, the best way to learn from 712 00:30:53,828 --> 00:30:55,908 Speaker 5: something is when you make that mistake, you never forget 713 00:30:55,908 --> 00:30:56,988 Speaker 5: it moving forward. 714 00:30:56,988 --> 00:30:57,868 Speaker 2: And you play. 715 00:30:57,708 --> 00:30:59,908 Speaker 5: Fifteen years and you talk about playoffs. You've had your 716 00:30:59,948 --> 00:31:02,228 Speaker 5: fair share of moments and experience. As you look back 717 00:31:02,268 --> 00:31:03,948 Speaker 5: at your career, what do is something that stick out 718 00:31:03,988 --> 00:31:04,228 Speaker 5: to your. 719 00:31:04,748 --> 00:31:07,468 Speaker 2: It's the losses. It's the losses. 720 00:31:08,468 --> 00:31:13,188 Speaker 8: Rookie year, AFC Championship game, favorite to win, I think 721 00:31:13,228 --> 00:31:18,788 Speaker 8: by double digits against Buffalo, we get smoked. But I'm thinking, 722 00:31:18,908 --> 00:31:21,468 Speaker 8: I'm gonna do this is easy. I got Damn Mareno 723 00:31:21,548 --> 00:31:24,148 Speaker 8: at quarterback. We're gonna be in this game every year 724 00:31:24,948 --> 00:31:28,588 Speaker 8: and it's so tough. And then Philly great run lost 725 00:31:28,628 --> 00:31:31,588 Speaker 8: four champ you know, four championship games back to back. 726 00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:34,108 Speaker 8: The only one that we were not favorite to win 727 00:31:34,268 --> 00:31:36,268 Speaker 8: is when we went to Saint Louis on the playing 728 00:31:36,268 --> 00:31:39,348 Speaker 8: against the greatest show on turf, but we lost you know, 729 00:31:39,548 --> 00:31:43,188 Speaker 8: three at home. Those are my memories, you know, they're 730 00:31:43,188 --> 00:31:47,308 Speaker 8: not great memories because we lost, but it's a great time. 731 00:31:48,188 --> 00:31:49,988 Speaker 8: It's a great time for players, for coaches. 732 00:31:50,068 --> 00:31:51,188 Speaker 2: This is what you play for. 733 00:31:51,788 --> 00:31:54,468 Speaker 8: Hey to be in that final four, as we would say, 734 00:31:54,908 --> 00:31:56,788 Speaker 8: to be able to play for the big one. I mean, 735 00:31:56,988 --> 00:31:59,948 Speaker 8: you've hosted a bunch of trophies, so you know the feeling. 736 00:32:00,588 --> 00:32:03,428 Speaker 8: I still wish I could get there or have been 737 00:32:03,468 --> 00:32:05,268 Speaker 8: able to. 738 00:32:04,548 --> 00:32:05,748 Speaker 2: To have that feeling. 739 00:32:06,228 --> 00:32:09,868 Speaker 8: But my most memorable moments in the playoff run are 740 00:32:09,908 --> 00:32:10,468 Speaker 8: the losses. 741 00:32:11,428 --> 00:32:13,588 Speaker 4: There's a famous story that Randy Moss says that when 742 00:32:13,628 --> 00:32:15,588 Speaker 4: they lost in ninety eight, he's at his locker room 743 00:32:15,588 --> 00:32:17,268 Speaker 4: and he looked next to him and John Randall and 744 00:32:17,348 --> 00:32:19,308 Speaker 4: Chris Carter are crying and he's like, guys, what are 745 00:32:19,308 --> 00:32:21,748 Speaker 4: we talking about? He's lookie, He's like, I didn't get 746 00:32:21,748 --> 00:32:23,548 Speaker 4: back until two thousand and seven, and I say, you know, 747 00:32:23,548 --> 00:32:25,668 Speaker 4: you never got that. So it's one of those deals 748 00:32:25,668 --> 00:32:28,468 Speaker 4: where I think people always think about the victory. Is 749 00:32:28,508 --> 00:32:29,228 Speaker 4: what you're here saying. 750 00:32:31,468 --> 00:32:33,908 Speaker 3: You watch, as you mentioned, every minute every game. You 751 00:32:33,948 --> 00:32:37,108 Speaker 3: are intimately evolved in the in season decision making, but 752 00:32:37,148 --> 00:32:39,828 Speaker 3: also off season is quickly approaching. Rule changes is a 753 00:32:39,828 --> 00:32:42,628 Speaker 3: real thing that happens in your life. The brotherly shove, 754 00:32:42,748 --> 00:32:45,228 Speaker 3: the tush push, the thing that the Eagles run that 755 00:32:45,348 --> 00:32:48,748 Speaker 3: makes everybody else infuriated. Where do we live right now 756 00:32:48,788 --> 00:32:51,228 Speaker 3: as we approach this off season with rule changes, because 757 00:32:51,268 --> 00:32:52,588 Speaker 3: this is a very hot topic. 758 00:32:52,628 --> 00:32:54,708 Speaker 8: Well interesting over the last two years is something that 759 00:32:54,708 --> 00:32:58,308 Speaker 8: we've been monitoring. They just do it really well. The 760 00:32:58,388 --> 00:33:01,628 Speaker 8: play has evolved. It was something last year. Should this 761 00:33:01,788 --> 00:33:05,348 Speaker 8: be removed? Nope, let's study it by the membership and 762 00:33:05,388 --> 00:33:06,468 Speaker 8: the coach and let's study it. 763 00:33:06,628 --> 00:33:07,428 Speaker 2: They do it well. 764 00:33:07,708 --> 00:33:10,628 Speaker 8: And what you hear from our from the competition committee members, 765 00:33:10,988 --> 00:33:15,948 Speaker 8: the player advisory committees don't punish the Philadelphia Eagles for 766 00:33:15,988 --> 00:33:18,948 Speaker 8: doing something well. And now you see from that formation 767 00:33:19,908 --> 00:33:23,708 Speaker 8: throwing the ball boots. So it's really evolved. I'm not 768 00:33:23,748 --> 00:33:27,308 Speaker 8: sure it goes any place, but the membership will make that. 769 00:33:27,388 --> 00:33:28,348 Speaker 8: They'll make that decision. 770 00:33:28,388 --> 00:33:30,348 Speaker 4: What is the membership consist of the viewers at home? 771 00:33:30,388 --> 00:33:31,868 Speaker 2: It's a couple of coaches, a couple of execs. 772 00:33:32,308 --> 00:33:34,548 Speaker 8: When I when I consider that, when I talk about 773 00:33:34,548 --> 00:33:37,548 Speaker 8: the membership, and thank you for that for clarification purposes, 774 00:33:37,548 --> 00:33:38,708 Speaker 8: that's the clubs, that's the owners. 775 00:33:38,748 --> 00:33:40,548 Speaker 2: I just use the term the members. 776 00:33:40,628 --> 00:33:42,908 Speaker 4: Interesting, I was thinking the competition committee and they not. 777 00:33:43,228 --> 00:33:46,428 Speaker 8: Well, the compet they'll they'll have a vote, they'll have 778 00:33:46,508 --> 00:33:49,468 Speaker 8: a position that we take to the full membership, which 779 00:33:49,508 --> 00:33:52,068 Speaker 8: is the clubs to vote on. I just you know, 780 00:33:52,068 --> 00:33:54,628 Speaker 8: I try to stay away from just certain language, certain words, 781 00:33:55,388 --> 00:33:57,828 Speaker 8: but it is the membership. They are all members part 782 00:33:57,868 --> 00:34:00,468 Speaker 8: of the you know, the thirty two clubs. But you 783 00:34:00,588 --> 00:34:03,428 Speaker 8: have the push play. One of the things that we've 784 00:34:03,428 --> 00:34:05,588 Speaker 8: been monitoring close if you don't mind me sharing, it's 785 00:34:05,628 --> 00:34:09,028 Speaker 8: on the hip drop. Yes, that has been talked about. 786 00:34:09,348 --> 00:34:11,428 Speaker 8: We've now studied that like the push play for the 787 00:34:11,508 --> 00:34:16,828 Speaker 8: last three years. That grabs swivel and dropping the unwaiting 788 00:34:17,468 --> 00:34:20,868 Speaker 8: of the body on the player the runner. It's you know, 789 00:34:20,948 --> 00:34:23,788 Speaker 8: talking about thirty times injury rate, so we'll be looking 790 00:34:23,788 --> 00:34:27,148 Speaker 8: at that particular tackle. And then lastly, the special teams 791 00:34:27,148 --> 00:34:30,868 Speaker 8: play the kickoff. It's becoming a dead play, you know, 792 00:34:30,908 --> 00:34:34,308 Speaker 8: with a less than twenty percent return rate. It's a 793 00:34:34,388 --> 00:34:36,668 Speaker 8: dynamic play. We just saw this past week and we 794 00:34:36,708 --> 00:34:39,548 Speaker 8: had a couple of big ones New England. Yes, so 795 00:34:39,788 --> 00:34:42,108 Speaker 8: we got to do something to coaches, which I believe 796 00:34:42,148 --> 00:34:42,748 Speaker 8: in the coaches. 797 00:34:42,828 --> 00:34:43,588 Speaker 2: We have to come up. 798 00:34:43,588 --> 00:34:46,108 Speaker 8: We had a one year only rule with the touch back. 799 00:34:46,828 --> 00:34:49,948 Speaker 8: The college rule. But this is something that is important 800 00:34:49,988 --> 00:34:53,108 Speaker 8: that we keep the foot in the game, so there's 801 00:34:53,108 --> 00:34:55,828 Speaker 8: a clear focus on the kickoff, punt. 802 00:34:55,308 --> 00:34:57,628 Speaker 2: Return, other rest just out there playing ball, you know. 803 00:34:57,788 --> 00:34:59,788 Speaker 3: I Troy, thank you so much. Always going to see you. 804 00:34:59,788 --> 00:35:02,388 Speaker 3: See you in Las Vegas for the Super Bowl. 805 00:35:02,788 --> 00:35:03,108 Speaker 2: Thank you. 806 00:35:03,228 --> 00:35:04,108 Speaker 8: Yes, I'm excited.