Speaker 1: All right, my man Baldy is here at one Jet's Drive.
Speaker 1: We're taping this here in June, this time of year.
Speaker 1: You never take any time off. Take time off.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm coming back from an injury,
Speaker 2: so if I get a chance to go watch football,
Speaker 2: it takes my mind off the injury. You know, these
Speaker 2: kind of things happen. So look, you get a chance
Speaker 2: to watch one of the thirty two teams in this league.
Speaker 2: With Anon Rodgers out there directing traffic and seeing some
Speaker 2: of the new guys out there, it's it's worth my time.
Speaker 1: All right, let's suck injuries. What was your latest surgery.
Speaker 2: My latest surgery was I had to get a tricep
Speaker 2: tendon reattached. And when you get tendons attached, like Annon
Speaker 2: Rodgers had his achilles attached, I got my tricep attached.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all the same. You gotta you know,
Speaker 2: they they anchor the tendon with the suture and they
Speaker 2: sew the tendon to the suture, and then you just
Speaker 2: need to let it rest. You have to fight the urge.
Speaker 2: Get out there and do Baldy kind of things. Get
Speaker 2: out there and dive and fish and do the things.
Speaker 2: I like to do, so you have to. You have
Speaker 2: to just basically buckle down and just say I can't
Speaker 2: do it for two and a half months.
Speaker 3: Just let it heal.
Speaker 1: But you're not completely off. Morgan Moses was in the seat.
Speaker 1: Very recently told us he tore a pack yep when
Speaker 1: he was blocking Miles Garrett of the Browns. He thought
Speaker 1: he was having a heart attack during a game, but
Speaker 1: he ended up not only finishing that game but for
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, playing the rest of the season. You're
Speaker 1: in the gym. Yeah, you're lifting with one hand, lift
Speaker 1: with one one arm.
Speaker 3: So bandit right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it looks weird to everybody that sees me
Speaker 2: in the gym, but there's signs behind it that if
Speaker 2: you just work out with your good arm and your
Speaker 2: good side of your body, you can maintain your muscle mass.
Speaker 2: On the other side, you won't atrophy as much as
Speaker 2: if you didn't do anything at all.
Speaker 1: Here's a secret with Baldy, he's never out of the gym.
Speaker 2: Well, you have to, like, I'm trying to maintain whatever
Speaker 2: I got left.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so thirteen surgery, as though you told me.
Speaker 2: My thirteenth surgery. Yeah, knees sports hernias, you know, Meta
Speaker 2: Taar sols, carpal tunnel, you know, stuff just happened overall.
Speaker 1: You're feeling. I feel good today. Today I'm doing the
Speaker 1: white out and I got the zinc sunscreen. I just
Speaker 1: got to protect myself from the sun and my smart
Speaker 1: My hair might be more gray than usual because I
Speaker 1: got some of the zinc up there. But you come
Speaker 1: in with the ball, these breakdown shirt, the red yes,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of upset because I want mine.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well we're you know, we're we're just getting them to
Speaker 2: the presses now, Okay, So we will have we'll have
Speaker 2: these things stocked up here pretty soon, maybe if I
Speaker 2: come certainly by time I come in the summer training
Speaker 2: camp will outfit the whole staff. But even maybe by
Speaker 2: next week when I come back for mandatory mini camp,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll have some in tow.
Speaker 1: I like the red. It's popping. So when you're out there,
Speaker 1: you're watching from the balcony up here in the second
Speaker 1: floor at one Jets Drive, what are you looking at
Speaker 1: in terms of guys being out there in shorts, Well.
Speaker 2: I mean the connection that Aaron Rodgers has with Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 2: like to every Jet fan. It's it's good the ball
Speaker 2: doesn't hit the ground. Anytime Garrett's targeted the ball, it
Speaker 2: gets caught, you know, whatever type of acrobatic move.
Speaker 3: He's got to make.
Speaker 2: Like he just has these legs that just have a
Speaker 2: lot of life to.
Speaker 3: Him, you know, so he's bouncing.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Brayln Allen, you know, the rookie running
Speaker 2: back at Wisconsin, and wisconstantly don't total football to the
Speaker 2: running backs. It's just not part of their offense. But
Speaker 2: he's lining up a wide receiver. He's catching everything they're
Speaker 2: through to him. And you see look at Isaiah Davis. They're,
Speaker 2: you know, running back out of South Dakota State. Like
Speaker 2: both those kids are big guys, and with Breis Hall
Speaker 2: not practicing today, they've got a lot of reps.
Speaker 3: So I see that.
Speaker 2: Then I'm looking at Keith Carter coaching the offense lines.
Speaker 2: So you're looking at Olu Fashion who playing strictly left tackle.
Speaker 2: You're looking at a pumped up, beefed up Carter Warren
Speaker 2: in the second year. You know, you're looking at Joe Tipman,
Speaker 2: you know, taking all the snaps, so you know you're
Speaker 2: looking at some pieces John Simpson coming in playing guard,
Speaker 2: you know, next to Olu right now playing left guard.
Speaker 2: So you're just looking at some of the pieces that
Speaker 2: you can project, you know, down the road this season,
Speaker 2: where they're going to be, what they might be doing.
Speaker 1: Does it surprise you? Again, it's summer. I know the
Speaker 1: pads aren't on, so everything's going to change when the
Speaker 1: pads come on. But Brylin Allen's twenty years old. You
Speaker 1: talked about him not getting many opportunities to catch the
Speaker 1: ball Wisconsin. Yeah, and he caught some balls, but he's
Speaker 1: out here today. He made a catch thirty five yards
Speaker 1: down the field with a little linebacker.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Back shoulder, yeah, back shoulder adjusted to the ball in
Speaker 2: the air. Everything I saw him catch, he caught it
Speaker 2: with his hands. He didn't catch it with his body.
Speaker 2: He trusts his hands. I think he's got good hands.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's one day that i've seen him live,
Speaker 2: so I you know, I don't I'm not going to
Speaker 2: go crazy, but it's encouraging, you know. They they did
Speaker 2: a lot of empty sets today. They put him out
Speaker 2: at wide receiver. The one you're talking about was coming
Speaker 2: right into our living room.
Speaker 3: Yep. It was a nice adjustment.
Speaker 2: In fact, It basically got about the biggest resound of
Speaker 2: applause by the offense all day with that catch that
Speaker 2: really finished a period.
Speaker 1: How advantageous is it for the young dudes out here
Speaker 1: that Aaron is here at OTAs Because Aaron himself personally,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be out there, but with those
Speaker 1: guys being around and getting those reps with him and
Speaker 1: also being coached up by him.
Speaker 2: Well, you know Aaron, well he was. It's important. It's
Speaker 2: really important, and I'll.
Speaker 3: Tell you why.
Speaker 2: Because we know that breist Hall is gonna line up
Speaker 2: and he's going to get you know, seventy percent of
Speaker 2: the snaps at running back. Okay, he's an elite player,
Speaker 2: but you know, to work with Braylen Allen, to work
Speaker 2: with Isaiah Davis, to work you know, you look at Rutger,
Speaker 2: Jeremy Rutcker right now. You know it looks like he's
Speaker 2: going to have a bigger role. Like all these things,
Speaker 2: you can't have enough timing with any of these players,
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's an adjustment, whether it's a play call,
Speaker 2: whether it's seeing it the way he sees it. I
Speaker 2: think it's incredibly valuable people can they can undermine what
Speaker 2: voluntary OTA's are, but for a guy like Aaron, he
Speaker 2: needs all this time with all these young guys he
Speaker 2: can get. You don't know when they're going to get
Speaker 2: their chance or when they need him to take a chance.
Speaker 3: And anything that you can.
Speaker 2: Communicate right now can transfer to summer, to the fall,
Speaker 2: and to when the games really matter, when you get
Speaker 2: to Thanksgiving and beyond.
Speaker 1: He literally is a field general because we're watching out
Speaker 1: there today he was having another rookie running back, Isaiah
Speaker 1: Davis motion out of the I don't want to give
Speaker 1: too much away. Let's just say he lined up outside,
Speaker 1: but he before the snap, he got a little excited.
Speaker 1: He wanted to get out there in a pass pattern,
Speaker 1: and Aaron pointed the sideline that went like this.
Speaker 2: He went like he literally made the switch right like
Speaker 2: only and not to punish the kid, like he knows
Speaker 2: he made a mistake, but like you know, they can't
Speaker 2: afford those mistakes, Like it's it's a it's a mental
Speaker 2: error on you know, Isaiah Davis's fault. Uh part, it's
Speaker 2: a it's a mental error. And so you just have
Speaker 2: to you just have to that that rookie has to
Speaker 2: know that that's not going to be tolerated by Aaron
Speaker 2: the staff Robert Saliz standing behind the offense when that happened,
Speaker 2: like immediately, I said it before it happened, I said him.
Speaker 3: He's going out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going out like I because you know, in
Speaker 2: some places you go and you take a lap you
Speaker 2: when you make a mistake like that. Now they're not
Speaker 2: doing that here. They've done that in other places, but like,
Speaker 2: you just can't tolerate a mistake like that.
Speaker 1: How about the way Aaron manipulates the funders. There's a
Speaker 1: situation here late in practice where he's looking off to
Speaker 1: the right and obviously it's gonna make you pause for
Speaker 1: a second. Then he comes back all the way across
Speaker 1: cross field. Take Xavier Gibson. Yeah, for what ended up
Speaker 1: being a fifty nine yard touchdown. Here's the situation it was.
Speaker 1: Then in the half was seven to five, offense has
Speaker 1: the ball. There was a little bit more than a
Speaker 1: minute on the clock. Can you get into scoring territory?
Speaker 1: It took Aaron Rodgers one play not to get in
Speaker 1: scool touchdown.
Speaker 3: But I've seen him.
Speaker 2: I've seen him run that play in Green Bay many
Speaker 2: times over the years. Where it's play action roll right,
Speaker 2: And what you're doing on that role is a you're
Speaker 2: you're resetting the protection, but you're allowing Xavier Gibson get
Speaker 2: down the field, right and uh, and then he just
Speaker 2: launched it, you know, and he's had you know, that's
Speaker 2: a play that he's had a lot of success with
Speaker 2: in his career. And sometimes it is just a one
Speaker 2: play drive. You know, you're you're you're, you're going for
Speaker 2: the home run.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: It's a contested catch by Gibson against the safety. I
Speaker 2: think that was there Tony Adams, and he came down
Speaker 2: with the ball and it was one play he was
Speaker 2: off the field touchdown.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Every time we're out there in the pray this field,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers makes a throw and you say, wow, maybe
Speaker 1: a couple of practices. It's it's a few throws, but
Speaker 1: he's he's still got it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I think he knows that he's got it,
Speaker 2: and he also knows what happened last year. And look,
Speaker 2: everybody's going to get excited about all these throws. They're
Speaker 2: going to put it in social media, right A right,
Speaker 2: nobody is going to get excited really until you know,
Speaker 2: they get to Week one in San Francisco and Nick
Speaker 2: bos is barreling down on him, you know, and he's
Speaker 2: got to make this throw against an elite defense. So
Speaker 2: I mean, that's but but that's fine, that's okay, he
Speaker 2: knows that. But at the same time, you still have
Speaker 2: to go the guy still has a live arm. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's a very live arm. The ball still spins,
Speaker 2: he can put it anywhere he wants to put it,
Speaker 2: and so he still has elite talent throwing the football.
Speaker 1: It's fun to watch. Let's flip it the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball. The Jets have talked about maybe using
Speaker 1: sauce gardener as a trail more than in the past.
Speaker 1: They've done it in the past, not frequently. And you
Speaker 1: do have the luxury of having a guy Oppositey that
Speaker 1: you have a lot of confidence in and a very
Speaker 1: solid player in DJ Reid. But what would that do
Speaker 1: for the defense as far as saying, okay, well you
Speaker 1: got a top receiver, maybe this week I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: sauce on him.
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes there's a different ways to do it. First
Speaker 2: of all, it's a change up for the defense, all right,
Speaker 2: So you're not really sure to the offense how they're
Speaker 2: gonna line up. But there's a couple of different ways
Speaker 2: to do that. One is you could put Sauce on
Speaker 2: the number two receiver and double team the.
Speaker 3: Number one receiver.
Speaker 2: Or you could put Sauce on the number one receiver
Speaker 2: you know, and and then play you know, DJ on
Speaker 2: the other side. Whatever like all those but you should
Speaker 2: play around with different different styles because it can both
Speaker 2: be effective sometimes.
Speaker 1: We've talked about it in the past, but there's a
Speaker 1: lot of changing faces there along there on the line.
Speaker 1: I know, we can't seal out right now. Son Reddick,
Speaker 1: he wasn't out there on the field today. He will
Speaker 1: be out there at mandatory mini camp whenever this runs.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the dynamics up front? You
Speaker 1: got the star with Quinn Williams, you got Jermain coming
Speaker 1: off a big second year, you got Reddick coming in quietly,
Speaker 1: the Jets have changed some parts next to Quinn and
Speaker 1: Williams because Lucky Photo is going to be here, as
Speaker 1: is Javon Kinlaw and those guys replace a pair of
Speaker 1: veterans in Quentin Jefferson el Woods. And then also let's
Speaker 1: see what will McDonald has in his second season. Can
Speaker 1: he make an other jump.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but we saw Jermaine make a huge jump
Speaker 2: last year, you know, a huge jump, and that's the
Speaker 2: jump that you hope Will makes this year. Can he
Speaker 2: make the jump where Jermaine became a really legitimate starting.
Speaker 3: Defense fan that.
Speaker 2: Looks like he's got Pro Bowl potential, Like he's on
Speaker 2: that track.
Speaker 3: A son. Reddick is an a player.
Speaker 2: He just you know, he's used to playing sixty five
Speaker 2: seventy percent of the snaps. He started last year with
Speaker 2: a broken thumb or hand whatever it was, and it
Speaker 2: hampered him a little bit, but he he still has
Speaker 2: elite change the direction. He has a variety of moves
Speaker 2: to win. You get inside push from quinnin sally kin Law,
Speaker 2: like the guys inside right now, Jermaine outside, Like you
Speaker 2: could get a NASCAR line with Will and Jermaine and
Speaker 2: Hassan and Quinn. I mean, there's there's gonna be some
Speaker 2: good change ups here. What you hope, though, is what
Speaker 2: never materialized last year where this team could play with
Speaker 2: the league in the second half. You just didn't score
Speaker 2: enough points. So can you get to the second half,
Speaker 2: late third quarter, fourth quarter with the lead where teams
Speaker 2: basically have to throw to catch up and if you do,
Speaker 2: they were pretty good last year. They had twenty six,
Speaker 2: twenty seven takeaways. Like, this is a defense. That's that's
Speaker 2: the step that they got to take. They got to
Speaker 2: take the ball away even more. And I think if
Speaker 2: you get give this defensive lead, this defensive line a lead,
Speaker 2: and you let them pin their ears back, like we
Speaker 2: could see some big number sack wise and takeaways.
Speaker 1: Wise, Howard team's going to try to detect the Jets
Speaker 1: defense on paper. I know it's June. Not a lot
Speaker 1: of weaknesses there. We mentioned the defensive line, you go
Speaker 1: back to the cornerbacks. You have to say the Jets
Speaker 1: top three is up there with anybody. Yeah, you got CJ.
Speaker 1: Moseley and Quincy Williams the team out there in the middle.
Speaker 1: I know, it's interesting. Robert s always asked about it.
Speaker 1: Today said, do you think that these guys can hold
Speaker 1: up on the edge, the Hassan Raddicks of the world,
Speaker 1: the Will McDonald's. They're to forty two point fifty. Are
Speaker 1: teams going to try to attack the perimeter here?
Speaker 3: Well, it always starts with stopping the run. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: just always does.
Speaker 2: You know, Buffalo changed their offense last year mid season fire,
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator went to the running game. Josh Allen
Speaker 2: became a bigger part of it. James Cook really took off,
Speaker 2: Like there's a team that wants to run the ball different.
Speaker 2: You know, they're they're looking a little bit different now,
Speaker 2: two tight end sets playing to their strings. So it's
Speaker 2: always going to start with their ability to stop the run.
Speaker 2: And so yes, those guys will get tested on the edge,
Speaker 2: no doubt. If Will's out there and Hassim's out there,
Speaker 2: like you got undersized defensive ends. Okay, well, I mean
Speaker 2: Hasan's been like that, as you know, since he transferred
Speaker 2: from off the ball inside linebacker, how he started in
Speaker 2: Arizona team, what he did in Carolina and then Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: All right, but he's you know, he's a very skilled
Speaker 2: player out there on the edge, and so you know,
Speaker 2: you want to test it, go test it.
Speaker 1: The Jets have had the Bills kryptonite. I think when
Speaker 1: you look at their matchups and you're talking about Buffalo
Speaker 1: shifting strategies, when you look at the division, how much
Speaker 1: of these roster constructions with the Jets, with Miami, with
Speaker 1: buff flow. I'm not even gonna put New England in
Speaker 1: that category because I think they're in a different spot
Speaker 1: right now. But how much do these management teams have
Speaker 1: to look at those three teams and say, we're playing
Speaker 1: them twice a year.
Speaker 2: Oh look, I mean Miami speed is ridiculous. And their
Speaker 2: ability to run the ball. I mean, look, Devon h
Speaker 2: Chan averaged almost eight yards of carry last year as
Speaker 2: a change of pace back to a he moster and
Speaker 2: then they just you know, drafted jail and right. I mean,
Speaker 2: they've got three home run hitters in the backfield, and
Speaker 2: they have three home run hitters at receiver, and so
Speaker 2: how do you affect Tua like and he gets the
Speaker 2: ball out quick? So you know, they do a lot
Speaker 2: of things motion wise, formation wise in the run game,
Speaker 2: and so you have to you have to match up
Speaker 2: to that, you know, And so you've got to defeat
Speaker 2: one on one blocks, you've got to defeat their stretch game,
Speaker 2: their zone stretch game. There's a lot there and all
Speaker 2: of their motions and shifts cause you to really blink
Speaker 2: and freeze. And so that's that's them, you know, Buffalo. Look,
Speaker 2: I don't know the receivers yet. Keon Coleman's a rookie, Okay,
Speaker 2: it looks like that's a perfect matchup for Sauce to
Speaker 2: go up and just take a big receiver out and
Speaker 2: make Josh Allen do things with it. But Josh Allen's
Speaker 2: a Bill. He ran for fifteen touchdowns last year. Everic,
Speaker 2: you know, this is a guy that you have to
Speaker 2: account for in so many different ways.
Speaker 1: Do you think when the Bills were making their team,
Speaker 1: they're looking at the Jets defensively when you're talking about
Speaker 1: that offense strategic shift, or are they looking at Kansas
Speaker 1: City and saying, hey, we want toll to toll with
Speaker 1: them for sixty minutes. That's the beast, that's the team
Speaker 1: we got to beat.
Speaker 2: Well, they've won the division four years, right, Okay, four
Speaker 2: years straight division champs, So you always build your team
Speaker 2: to beat the division winner, right to try to take
Speaker 2: Buffalo down. So you know, have they done enough to
Speaker 2: you know, use Quincy and CJ as spies in some form,
Speaker 2: you know, on Josh so that when he does escape,
Speaker 2: he limit the damage. They've got tight ends that both
Speaker 2: can run. Dawson Knox and Dalton Kinkaid. Like how you're
Speaker 2: handling the tight ends. You know, they could be mismatches
Speaker 2: if you put Kincaid against Michael Carter on the slot,
Speaker 2: like how you're handling that mismatch. I feel like you've
Speaker 2: got to build your roster to go take down the
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, and I feel like that's what Miami is
Speaker 2: trying to do as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like the Jets, and we talked
Speaker 1: about it before. I think on paper, the Jets do
Speaker 1: have a roster that should be able to take down
Speaker 1: on the Bills. They should be able to take down
Speaker 1: to Miami Dolphins. But do you see this as a
Speaker 1: three horse race?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I see its three horses, you do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think like I'm not discounting New England, no,
Speaker 2: because it's just gonna be so different what Girod's doing,
Speaker 2: what Elliott Wolf the general manager is doing. He's just
Speaker 2: gonna be such a departure from how they build a team,
Speaker 2: how they design, you know, game plans just gonna be
Speaker 2: so different than what you've seen for twenty plus years.
Speaker 2: So you just have to kind of wait. I don't
Speaker 2: think they have a very talented roster. They'll do what
Speaker 2: everything they have to do in order to try to
Speaker 2: win games. But you know, obviously, you know the Jets
Speaker 2: have had a hard time beating the Patriots defense. So
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be very very good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so they probably will do a pretty good job
Speaker 2: of keeping to score under twenty points and playing close games.
Speaker 1: What do you make of the AFC as a whole.
Speaker 1: Kansas City is a dynastic team. I mean, that's a dynasty.
Speaker 1: Right now, we're watching Jim Harrobaugh has returned to the
Speaker 1: National Football leagus taken over the Chargers. You got his
Speaker 1: brother John in Baltimore. You have four teams the AFC
Speaker 1: North that you could sit there and say, hey, those
Speaker 1: are playoff teams. I got CJ. Stroud and the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: Indianapolis is trying to get into that mix with their
Speaker 1: young quarterback Anthony Richardson. I know Jacksonville is high hopes
Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence. And we've been talking about the FC
Speaker 1: East as well. What do you make of this conference?
Speaker 3: It's wicked. It's a wicked stretch.
Speaker 2: Some of these teams, like the AFC North, Baltimore, I
Speaker 2: mean Pittsburgh actually was five.
Speaker 1: And one in their division last year, which is crazy.
Speaker 2: Three teams made the playoffs. Okay, you know in the
Speaker 2: AFC North, they have the three toughest schedules on paper.
Speaker 2: To start the season, Cleveland the toughest schedule, followed by
Speaker 2: Baltimore and Pittsburgh. So it's it's a brutal schedule. So
Speaker 2: they're going to beat up each other when Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: plays seventeen games. They're a completely different franchise. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks are elite. Russell Wilson, like Pittsburgh made the
Speaker 2: playoffs last year, won ten games, and their three quarterbacks
Speaker 2: through a combined thirteen touchdown passes. Wild So you know,
Speaker 2: if Russell Wilson he threw twenty six touchdowns last year
Speaker 2: and fifteen starts in Denver, if he throws twenty six
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, does that mean they win eleven or twelve games.
Speaker 2: It might very well do that. They've really rebuilt their roster.
Speaker 2: You know, hardboll is gonna make a difference. He always does,
Speaker 2: like the way that he wants to win games where
Speaker 2: they're putting their emphasis in the trenches. Right now, they
Speaker 2: have an elite quarterback. The AFC South is gonna be
Speaker 2: scary good like this Anthony Richardson. I know he only
Speaker 2: played in four games last year. He is a beast
Speaker 2: and they really he's very very good. He beat Houston
Speaker 2: last year. He was down twenty three to nothing in
Speaker 2: the second half to the Los Angeles Rams and tied
Speaker 2: them up in the second half to go to overtime.
Speaker 3: He's a talented guy.
Speaker 1: So you liked a small sample a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it a lot. Like he is.
Speaker 2: He's way better than I ever thought he could be
Speaker 2: in just a sample of four games, and I think
Speaker 2: it will be better in the second year. We saw
Speaker 2: what CJ did in Houston, So this is murder's row
Speaker 2: right now. It's murderer's row, like just forget you know, look,
Speaker 2: Miami is I think defensively they're going to struggle, at
Speaker 2: least for half a season.
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna struggle. Ian and the Jets.
Speaker 1: Jets should be very good or defensively.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they're gonna It's gonna take a while
Speaker 2: for Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb to get back from
Speaker 2: major major surgeries a year ago. I saw him in
Speaker 2: Mini camp OTA's two weeks ago, and you know, they're
Speaker 2: not ready to play. I don't know when they're gonna
Speaker 2: be one hundred percent. He got a new defense coordinator
Speaker 2: Anthony Weaver. They don't have the same talent on defense
Speaker 2: that they had a year ago. So offensively though, they
Speaker 2: could be very good. I mean they they could be elite.
Speaker 1: So and he's a creative play caller.
Speaker 2: He's a great play caller, and he has an unbelievable
Speaker 2: style of his ability to run the ball like he's
Speaker 2: a master in running the football. And so it's there's
Speaker 2: still gonna be a very tough out.
Speaker 1: He's fun to watch call games. If the Jets aren't
Speaker 1: playing him, I don't I don't like to watch him.
Speaker 2: There's a reason why Kyle Shanahan never wanted to let
Speaker 2: him go Cleveland, Atlanta, San Francisco, other teams try to
Speaker 2: poach him. He wouldn't let him go. You know, took
Speaker 2: a getting a head coaching job. He's a very talented
Speaker 2: offensive mind.
Speaker 1: Where are we right now with the wide receiver market
Speaker 1: in the National Football League? When ce Jaln Wattell get
Speaker 1: the kind of number that he just got, and Justin
Speaker 1: Jefferson follows up quickly after.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, and Ceedee Lamb is yet to follow
Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase. We saw both receivers get paid in
Speaker 2: Philadelphia and aj Brown and Devonte Smith. It's it's out
Speaker 2: of control because you're paying You're paying the receivers now
Speaker 2: the second highest amount of money next to your quarterback.
Speaker 2: It used to be your corner, your your star defense
Speaker 2: vend At some places they're still doing that, but Brandon Ayuk,
Speaker 2: who knows what's gonna happen. You can only pay so
Speaker 2: many star players. And if your quarterback is, you know,
Speaker 2: taking in a quarter of the salary cap, and now
Speaker 2: you're a receiver. You know, in Miami's case, Jayalen Wattle
Speaker 2: and Tyreek Hill, it's eating up big chump of your
Speaker 2: of your salary cap right now. It's uh, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying these guys aren't worth it. I'm not sure saying
Speaker 2: that they don't have the value they do. Tyreek Hill
Speaker 2: has been targeted one hundred and seventy times two years
Speaker 2: in a row, caught one hundred nineteen passes in each
Speaker 2: year over seventeen hundred yards. Like you know, a third
Speaker 2: of their offense is Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1: So look at you with the numbers man, that's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: look at Baldi breaking it down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh no, but I mean looked. I mean, Garrett
Speaker 2: Wilson's going to come up pretty soon. So you have
Speaker 2: to start budgeting for these guys. Once they prove that
Speaker 2: they're there your number one receiver, you have to start
Speaker 2: budgeting for him. Like Jamar Chase and Cincinnati Garrett here,
Speaker 2: he's going into his third year. He's an elite player.
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's that the position and how they're paying
Speaker 2: the position has changed.
Speaker 1: It's a definite course change as far as the direction
Speaker 1: is concerned. Yeah, it's abs and flows in the National
Speaker 1: Football League. But the receiver position right there. And oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, we just watched Garrett Wilson on the Price.
Speaker 3: Field you put on the show.
Speaker 1: Baldy alluded to it. Yeah, this guy's going to have
Speaker 1: a huge year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he jumps, He jumps off the field at you.
Speaker 2: You know, just his quickness, suddenness, change of direction, ability
Speaker 2: to adjust to the ball in the air, how quick
Speaker 2: his hands are. If his hands are as quick as
Speaker 2: our eyes are, that means his eyes are even quicker.
Speaker 2: How he can just locate the ball and his hands
Speaker 2: are so fast, Like you could have one of those
Speaker 2: one hundred catch fifteen hundred yard seasons easily this year.
Speaker 2: If Aaron stays healthy.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the forty nine ers before obviously Week one
Speaker 1: Jets going out to San Francisco, so many storylines, what
Speaker 1: a great matchup. Nice job by the league there the
Speaker 1: seven standalone games in the first eleven I've never seen
Speaker 1: anything like it. We haven't seen anything like it from
Speaker 1: a media perspective. Your thoughts also from a dude who
Speaker 1: played in the trenches, your thoughts on the changing schedule.
Speaker 1: But because for that first eleven or twelve weeks, the
Speaker 1: Jets will not have this same number of days of
Speaker 1: preparation in any of those games. Yeah, you're talking about
Speaker 1: long we short weeks. Thursday night, Monday night, Sundays.
Speaker 2: They've got some marquee players, you know. Aaron even said it,
Speaker 2: we got to make up for you know, me missing
Speaker 2: last year. So look, I just think it's going to
Speaker 2: alter some of preseason when you have to play three
Speaker 2: games in ten days, Like, I don't know how much
Speaker 2: you can put any of the starters on the field
Speaker 2: knowing what's in front of them.
Speaker 3: I mean, three games in a ten.
Speaker 2: Day stretch is is as tough as any stretch that
Speaker 2: any team has to play all year. You play a
Speaker 2: Monday night, a Sunday, a Thursday out of the gate,
Speaker 2: that's right out of the gate. Yeah, that's very tough. Now,
Speaker 2: if you come out of there with a good record,
Speaker 2: you do get like a little mini buy from that
Speaker 2: Thursday night to get ready for your fourth game. So
Speaker 2: there is a little bit of you can catch your
Speaker 2: breath a little bit, you know, from that Thursday night
Speaker 2: game against the Patriots. But it is you have to
Speaker 2: really plan like Robert coach syls like his game planning
Speaker 2: for those first three games is critical and how he
Speaker 2: handles the load, how he handles preseason preseason games. You
Speaker 2: want to get some You definitely want to get some time.
Speaker 2: You definitely want to You don't want to go to
Speaker 2: San Francisco without playing without getting some time, especially with
Speaker 2: the new offensive line and all those things. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, you know, you got to treat your
Speaker 2: starters with maximum rest.
Speaker 1: So those guys bubble wrapped. They're the preseason action. You
Speaker 1: do have those joint practices nowadays.
Speaker 3: Goes as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so I think you're gonna get a bulk
Speaker 2: of the work in the joint practices. You got three
Speaker 2: different teams that you're practicing with, so you know, you
Speaker 2: could get a lot of work done with them. I
Speaker 2: don't think you'll see many many starters in the preseason games,
Speaker 2: which is fine, just fine, like give you your young
Speaker 2: guys a chance. But you know there's scrimmages and whatever.
Speaker 2: If Aaron Rodgers in the starting offense gets you know,
Speaker 2: one series, you know, like he did last year, all right,
Speaker 2: let's you got to go on that road trip to
Speaker 2: Sanford Cisco against an elite defense. You know you got
Speaker 2: to hit the field running.
Speaker 1: You mentioned offensive line before you were watching Oluvashnu the
Speaker 1: Jets number eleven overall selection in the draft. We didn't
Speaker 1: get to see Tyron Smith take team reps today, but
Speaker 1: he was out there and he's been out there taking
Speaker 1: team reps throughout OTA's voluntary sessions. Waldy, I know you
Speaker 1: have gone multiple times to Cowboys camp, but for me
Speaker 1: it has been really something watching number seventy seven in
Speaker 1: action because if God wanted to create an offensive tackle,
Speaker 1: he looks like Tyron Smith.
Speaker 2: Well, two things about Tyron you know, really ever since
Speaker 2: he came out of USC is A he has no
Speaker 2: clock in his head about how long the quarterback is
Speaker 2: holding the ball. I mean you go back to Tony
Speaker 2: Romo days and dark days, like he'll block He never
Speaker 2: gives up on a play, and then once he gets
Speaker 2: his grips on you, he never lets him go. Like
Speaker 2: his his grip, his ability just to grip grab. I
Speaker 2: didn't get a lot of holding calls. He does it legally,
Speaker 2: but his ability just to once he gets these grips
Speaker 2: on you literally plays over and he'll hold that for
Speaker 2: as long as it takes for the quarterback to get
Speaker 2: rid of the ball. Like those are staples in Tyrone's game,
Speaker 2: and it always has been.
Speaker 1: He's unbelievable. Robert Salah was coming about the weight he
Speaker 1: throws around like nothing in the way.
Speaker 3: He's got tremendous upper body strength, tremendous.
Speaker 1: He said, he's wrapping like four hundred pounds on the
Speaker 1: bench like Salad does one thirty five. I think Salah
Speaker 1: is downplaying what he does on a bench.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean he's always had great upper body strength.
Speaker 2: It's been the hallmark of his career. Like he gets
Speaker 2: you inside right here, and he's got it. He's got
Speaker 2: you gripped, Like I don't care who he's going against.
Speaker 2: Nick Bo's a pick a guy, like he's gonna lock
Speaker 2: him up.
Speaker 1: How valuable is this time for Olu? Like we saw
Speaker 1: him get first team reps out there today and also
Speaker 1: into tree any camp because the Jets have to play
Speaker 1: the long game with a guy like Tyron Smith. And
Speaker 1: also Morgan Moses has come coming off peck surgery.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's it's super vialbe and Carter Warren
Speaker 2: as well, the fourth round pick last year, who's looks
Speaker 2: a lot bigger and bulked up from a year ago.
Speaker 2: I mean, both those guys are getting all the number
Speaker 2: one team reps right now. Carter at right tackle, Olu
Speaker 2: at left tackle. It's great, young guys, give him. Give
Speaker 2: him every single one of these plays. I mean from
Speaker 2: listening to Aaron call the plays in a huddle, to
Speaker 2: the checks at the line of scrimmage to you know,
Speaker 2: seeing the blitz looks like it's you know, they've got it.
Speaker 2: As an offensive lineman, mentally, you just have so much
Speaker 2: more you have to absorb. So the more you can
Speaker 2: absorb right now, the more you can process, the more
Speaker 2: that you can the more reps you get, the better
Speaker 2: prepared you're going to be when and if your time
Speaker 2: comes during the regular season.
Speaker 1: Saying thing for Malkai Corley, I know he's not going
Speaker 1: to be the opening day acts or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Is Mike Williams returns from his own ACL injury, but
Speaker 1: this is super valuable for him coming from a system
Speaker 1: like he was running.
Speaker 2: Oh you go from West you know, you go from
Speaker 2: Western Kentucky to you know to New York Chester Daron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: I mean it's a big jump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you go look at his tape against
Speaker 2: Ohio State last year and he had a good game
Speaker 2: against him. But you know this is different. Now, this
Speaker 2: is different. You're looking at you know, Sauce out there
Speaker 2: and DJ guys that have seen a lot of football
Speaker 2: and our elite players, like just good for him. Everything
Speaker 2: from running his routes to proper depth, making sure that
Speaker 2: he's seeing what the quarterback is seeing, cutting things off,
Speaker 2: reading man's own, seeing the different looks he's going to see.
Speaker 2: Like this is this is invaluable.
Speaker 3: This is important.
Speaker 2: And when you know people on the outside are talking
Speaker 2: about cutting back OTAs and mini camps and all this
Speaker 2: stuff going forward, like you got to take advantage of
Speaker 2: these days every day is really really important to a
Speaker 2: young kid.
Speaker 1: All right, So what's on there? How realistic is that?
Speaker 2: Were you surprised that I was surprised I heard it,
Speaker 2: but you know, you look, it's always you know, ultimately
Speaker 2: this is about give and take with the NFL players Union,
Speaker 2: right and you know the league and so you know
Speaker 2: they want to get to an eighteen game schedule eventually, sure,
Speaker 2: and they will. They'll get to an eighteen game schedule,
Speaker 2: two game preseason that you know, two by weeks like,
Speaker 2: oh that is coming. I don't know when it's coming,
Speaker 2: but so there's concessions. Okay, if we do that, then
Speaker 2: take this away. But I think what I saw out
Speaker 2: there today was.
Speaker 3: Really really, very really valued.
Speaker 2: And Joe Tipman's is the second year player, you know,
Speaker 2: like all these things are important for young players to
Speaker 2: you know, to get them ready and ratchet it up,
Speaker 2: you know, for the season. If you take a lot
Speaker 2: of this stuff away, I don't know how young player
Speaker 2: is going to really hit, you know, the season running
Speaker 2: and be able to compete.
Speaker 1: I agree with you un selfishly. I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: a player and you got a kid you got too
Speaker 1: and they're finishing up school, I don't know why you
Speaker 1: wouldn't want well, look.
Speaker 2: At look at you know Xavier Gibson and Jason Brownlee
Speaker 2: last year they both make the fifty three man roster.
Speaker 2: But they would they make the roster in a new
Speaker 2: universe where there's very little off season.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they would catch the coach's eye,
Speaker 2: get as many reps. You know, now you watch Xavier
Speaker 2: giftson out there and he's running with the number ones,
Speaker 2: and he's you know, he can be a starter out
Speaker 2: there in the slot. You know, like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: in the new universe of what they're talking about, if
Speaker 2: you would.
Speaker 3: Be able to make those kind of judgments about him.
Speaker 1: We all live vicariously through you and your travels and
Speaker 1: your adventures. Yes, So what does Baldi have planned post
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camps throughout the nationals?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I'm gone, Okay, what are you doing. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be I'll be in Blize. I'll be diving in Belize,
Speaker 2: and I hope to get to Bali. I'm really trying
Speaker 2: to get to Bali through Abu Dhabi and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I really want to stop in the Middle East and
Speaker 2: see some of the things that they're building out there.
Speaker 2: Have a layover on you know, Air Emirates, so I
Speaker 2: like to I'd like to take a flight where you
Speaker 2: can take a shower on the flight.
Speaker 3: You know, Air Emirates you could do that.
Speaker 2: So, like, I want to get to Bali, and I've
Speaker 2: been to Bali since nineteen eighty seven, but you know,
Speaker 2: there's some wrecks that I want to dive in Bali.
Speaker 2: I want to get to Ula Watu and look at
Speaker 2: some of the biggest surf in the world. So I've got,
Speaker 2: you know, really good, good travel destinations on the horizon.
Speaker 1: How many flights have you showered off?
Speaker 3: Never?
Speaker 1: Never, so this would be a first for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I want to I'm want to do a
Speaker 2: break it down now in the shower, but I am
Speaker 2: I am going to break down the shower on.
Speaker 3: The Air Emirates plane.
Speaker 1: Great s.
Speaker 3: Yeah, likewise, thanks,