WEBVTT - Ep. 475: Policy Chaos, a Record-Breaking Hunting Access Expansion, and a Beaver in the Big Apple

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<v Speaker 1>From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan cow Calahan. Here's Cow.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week we brought you news about rats in New

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<v Speaker 2>York City, maybe more news than you wanted. This week

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<v Speaker 2>we're going bigger with rodent news from the Big Apple.

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<v Speaker 2>Bigger and most definitely better. On Thursday, a visitor to

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<v Speaker 2>the Hudson River Park in Manhattan filmed a beaver climbing

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<v Speaker 2>up out of the water onto the pier. Castor Canadensis is,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the largest road in North America and second

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<v Speaker 2>in the world only to the Cape Bera. This was

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<v Speaker 2>the first time of beaver had ever been cited in

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<v Speaker 2>Hudson River Park's Wildlife Sanctuary, a four mile long protected

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<v Speaker 2>title estuary, estuary, of course, being where fresh and saltwater

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<v Speaker 2>mixes where the river meets the ocean. Beaver sidings are

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<v Speaker 2>rare in New York City, but the big cheers are

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<v Speaker 2>essential to the city's identity. The official Seal of New

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<v Speaker 2>York shows not one, but two beavers, paying homage to

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<v Speaker 2>the history of the city as a key trading post

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<v Speaker 2>for beaver pelts in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. Rumors

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<v Speaker 2>are that this beaver actually showed up to watch the

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<v Speaker 2>next play in the NBA Finals, where the cheap seats

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<v Speaker 2>were going for seventy five hundred bucks and two tickets

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<v Speaker 2>sold for a million in a charity auction. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the city should have let this furbaro sit courtside just

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<v Speaker 2>for old times sake. This week we've got legislation, Arctic

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<v Speaker 2>lee sales, ohvs, and so much more of it. First,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you about my week, and my

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<v Speaker 2>week has been busy. We were gearing up for another

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<v Speaker 2>new edition here at the house. We got another yellow

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<v Speaker 2>dog on the way. Most people when they hear this say,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, you're crazy. A newborn and a puppy. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a special puppy as it Snort's sisters last litter,

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<v Speaker 2>and having been around labs my whole life, Snort is

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<v Speaker 2>a special one. So having the opportunity to have a

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<v Speaker 2>puppy so closely related was too good to pass up.

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<v Speaker 2>Same breeder, which is Riverstone Kennels over there in Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>And in case you're wondering, the Wisconi accent does go

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<v Speaker 2>away relatively quickly. I do think that this will be

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a trial in parenting, both in the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that a puppy and a newborn are both a

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<v Speaker 2>pain in the butt, but also the dog and the

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<v Speaker 2>kid will be the same age, and if all goes well,

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<v Speaker 2>the dog is going to pass away long before the

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<v Speaker 2>wee babe does. That's just part of what we set

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves up for in dog ownership. Succession planning on retriever

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<v Speaker 2>power is a must, and I suppose sore life lessons

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<v Speaker 2>on the kid front. In other news, ol Mike Lee

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<v Speaker 2>slid it in an amendment on the Wildfire Prevention Act

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<v Speaker 2>that will fully rescind the two thousand and one Roadless

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<v Speaker 2>Rule if it were to pass. Perfect job of bypassing

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<v Speaker 2>the American public Mike Lee. As I have said many times,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not about timber. It's about opening the door

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<v Speaker 2>to large scale, not selective, resource extraction on America's public lands.

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<v Speaker 2>The roadless Rule removes certain high risk environments from new

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<v Speaker 2>road building potential, but preserves the ability to build temporary

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<v Speaker 2>roads to address wildfire mitigation and habitat work. There are

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and eighty thousand miles of roads on the

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<v Speaker 2>US Forest Service System, more than the Interstate Highway system,

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<v Speaker 2>and The rule came about once folks, many of whom

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<v Speaker 2>were fiscally conservative Republicans, realized how much we the taxpayer

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<v Speaker 2>spend on forest road maintenance. Over six hundred public meetings

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<v Speaker 2>and bringing all the user groups to the table resulted

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<v Speaker 2>in the two thousand and one roadless Rule, and Mike Lee,

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<v Speaker 2>because he is the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Chair,

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<v Speaker 2>was able to insert this amendment and get it through

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<v Speaker 2>committee in spite of overwhelming public opposition to roadless decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Members of the Senate NR voted on party lines to

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<v Speaker 2>advance the amendment, mostly using the idea that the Wildlife

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<v Speaker 2>Prevention Act is necessary and the amendment can be struck

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<v Speaker 2>outside of committee as cover here. In the home state,

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<v Speaker 2>the roadless rule is extremely popular. Steve Danes, our senior

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<v Speaker 2>and lame duck senator on the committee, voted to rescind

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Most urgently, we've been receiving reports of infrastructure

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<v Speaker 2>destruction and illegal off road vehicle use from multiple forest districts.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to police ourselves. And yes, Trump did rescind

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<v Speaker 2>long standing OHV orders, but he did not rescind forest

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<v Speaker 2>travel management plans, which are the law meaning that you

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<v Speaker 2>cannot drive wherever the hell you want, and no big

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<v Speaker 2>surprise here. You cannot rip out gates and signs, and

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<v Speaker 2>for your information, we all, all of us, the taxpayers,

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<v Speaker 2>pay for those gates and signs as well the roads

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<v Speaker 2>you are literally stealing from us all and yourself to

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<v Speaker 2>those who play in the motorized community. I know this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff is embarrassing and you don't want illegal use representing

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<v Speaker 2>what you love to do on your weekends, So please

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<v Speaker 2>spread the word. Travel management plans are still in effect.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to get a motor vehicle use map for

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<v Speaker 2>your forest before you go that way you know you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be legal. Additionally, I've been getting reports from big Timber

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<v Speaker 2>company who do not like this OHV order. Turns out

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<v Speaker 2>they're paying their fair share to maintain a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>roads in order to do the timber extraction that this

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<v Speaker 2>is supposedly based off of, and increased traffic, especially destructive

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<v Speaker 2>traffic like we just talked about, is just costing them

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<v Speaker 2>more money. As I've talked about many times before, and

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<v Speaker 2>sadly I kind of like wish the days of Dose

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<v Speaker 2>who were still around because Mike Lee Hageman, who have

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<v Speaker 2>both tried to jam in this non public way of

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<v Speaker 2>rescinding the roadless rule have not presented any ability to

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<v Speaker 2>pay for newly opened roads, nor any ability to pay

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<v Speaker 2>for the noxious weeds that come with them, the increased

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<v Speaker 2>fires that come with them, the replacement of culverts, drainage devices, grading,

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<v Speaker 2>general maintenance. You get the drift, and neither did any

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<v Speaker 2>funding come with the OHV recision. No matter what side

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<v Speaker 2>of the aisle you're on, is shooting herself in the foot.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on to the legislative desk. First up out in Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 2>the state legislature passed HB one three three four, which

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<v Speaker 2>exempts donated wild game from certain inspection and transportation codes.

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<v Speaker 2>Standards that are applied to farm raised meat can get

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<v Speaker 2>in the way of hunter donations, making it to hungry people.

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<v Speaker 2>The measure also removes another barrier to hunting non native

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<v Speaker 2>access deer on Hawaii. The state has declared an access

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<v Speaker 2>deer state of emergency since twenty twenty two, and recent

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<v Speaker 2>population estimates put deer numbers as high as one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty seven thousand, with an estimated twenty percent growth

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<v Speaker 2>rate per year. The result has been rampant crop damage,

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<v Speaker 2>soil erosion, and even airport runway disruptions, Hawaii has pulled

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<v Speaker 2>out all the stops to control access deer, including sponsoring

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<v Speaker 2>trapping operations and encouraging pet and human food companies to

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<v Speaker 2>use the resulting meat. Eliminating the food donation requirements will

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<v Speaker 2>mean even more progress. But this bill has stalled on

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<v Speaker 2>the Governor's desk since May eighth. If it's not signed

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<v Speaker 2>by July eleventh, it'll die and have to be redrafted

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<v Speaker 2>next session. So Aloha staters call Governor Josh Green and

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<v Speaker 2>ask him to get busy signing HB one three three four.

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<v Speaker 2>Next up in Michigan, House bills five eight zero one

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<v Speaker 2>and five eight zero two would expand commercial fishing of

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<v Speaker 2>walleye yellow perch and lake trout, including allowing the use

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<v Speaker 2>of gillnets. This would impact recreational fishing in the Wolverine state,

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<v Speaker 2>and gil NEETs in particular are well known to increase bycatch,

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<v Speaker 2>that is, they kill species other than the ones you're

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<v Speaker 2>going for. According to the Congressional Sportsman's Foundation, recreational fishing

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<v Speaker 2>in Michigan generates approximately three point nine billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>economic activity annually, while commercial fishing industry brings in just

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<v Speaker 2>around five point four million these bills have been heard

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<v Speaker 2>in the House Committee on Natural Resources and Tourism, and

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<v Speaker 2>let's make sure they die there, Michiganders. Call your House

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<v Speaker 2>reps and ask them to kill HB five eight zero

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<v Speaker 2>one and HB five eight zero two. Next up is

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting bill out of Louisiana that could become a

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<v Speaker 2>model for other states where certain hunts generate big controversy.

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Jeff Landry recently signed House Bill eleven seventy seven

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<v Speaker 2>into law which exempts the personal information of hunters from

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<v Speaker 2>public records requests during the application period and season of

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<v Speaker 2>hunts run by lottery in Louisiana. Black bear and alligator

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<v Speaker 2>are lottery hunts, and of course black bear hunting can

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<v Speaker 2>drive anti hunters absolutely berserk. The law would mean that

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<v Speaker 2>no one could access the name, address, or other identifying

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<v Speaker 2>information of hunters until the season was over, thereby reventing harassment.

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<v Speaker 2>Once the season wraps up, information will become available again

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<v Speaker 2>to follow the state's sunshine laws. Interesting side note here

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of outfitters who specialize in draw tag hunts

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<v Speaker 2>also access this information so they can reach out to

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<v Speaker 2>you and see if you want to go guide it.

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<v Speaker 2>Although Louisiana isn't known for its rabid anti hunting community.

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<v Speaker 2>Similar bills might make sense in places like Florida and

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey. I, for one, haven't heard of people using

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<v Speaker 2>public records request or harass hunters, but hey, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>limit to what I don't know. If you've seen this happen,

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a take on laws to temporarily remove

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<v Speaker 2>hunter info from public records, right in to ask cal

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<v Speaker 2>at the meat eater dot com or call and leave

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<v Speaker 2>a message at four h six two two zero six

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<v Speaker 2>four four one. Finally, at the federal level, a good

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<v Speaker 2>bill that died has been born again. The quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>Public Lands Integrity Act or PLIA was attached to the

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<v Speaker 2>recent Senate budget reconciliation vote, and it would have prevented

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<v Speaker 2>public lands from being sold as part of budget reconciliation,

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<v Speaker 2>which lawmakers like to use because measures can be passed

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<v Speaker 2>by a simple majority vote rather than having to get

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<v Speaker 2>sixty votes. You might remember that three million acres minimum

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<v Speaker 2>was almost sold off in budget reconciliation over the summer

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty five. Well, the most recent reconciliation vote

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<v Speaker 2>came and went, and the PLIA never became an amendment.

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<v Speaker 2>But now the Public LANs Caucus in the House has

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<v Speaker 2>introduced the same measure as a standalone bill. Although this

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<v Speaker 2>one has a long way to go, it's a great

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<v Speaker 2>showing by the bipartisan Public Lance Caucus. Bipartisan of course,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning there are Democrats and Republicans pushing this and it's

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<v Speaker 2>much better to have this one debated and voted on

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<v Speaker 2>out in the open instead of being slipped through behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes. Start calling your member of Congress right now

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<v Speaker 2>and say public lands are important. At minimum they should

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<v Speaker 2>have a sixty vote threshold minimum. If it were up

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<v Speaker 2>to me, we'd put a moratorium on selling off our

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<v Speaker 2>public lands. We're not making any more of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with the exception of like those little bits that I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about in the past that like lie within municipal

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<v Speaker 2>airports or have become a parking lot, don't provide that

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<v Speaker 2>ecological value that we enjoy.

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<v Speaker 3>North to Alaska going off the rest of his big

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<v Speaker 3>samlesiattle in the year of nine to two, and he

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<v Speaker 3>landed in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge where a lease

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<v Speaker 3>sale was going on for energy development.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is about nineteen million

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<v Speaker 2>acres of protected habitat along the north slope of Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>It is one of the most important ecosystems in the

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<v Speaker 2>world and a critical migration corridor for cariboo and hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of bird species. Makes other countries drool with envy, and

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<v Speaker 2>we have to remember it's a place all of us

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<v Speaker 2>can go to. Yeah, it takes a little doing, but

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<v Speaker 2>anyone can visit the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge paddle backpack

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<v Speaker 2>hunting fish, iconic bucketless species, muskoks, cariboo, wolves, grizzlies, shefish,

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<v Speaker 2>char grailing, unbelievable bird species. It is bad ass and

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to go back. Underneath all that habitat, however,

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<v Speaker 2>are pockets of oil, and getting to it would first

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<v Speaker 2>mean driving huge trucks over the permafrost and sending seismic

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<v Speaker 2>waves down to detect deposits. University of Alaska scientists have

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<v Speaker 2>concluded that this would permanently damage the permafrost, and that

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<v Speaker 2>would just be the beginning. The battle to drill in

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<v Speaker 2>this spot has been raging since nineteen seventy seven, when

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<v Speaker 2>a geologist test fed in Congress about oil in the area.

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<v Speaker 2>The refuge was created in nineteen eighty in response, but

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty nine the Senate approved drilling leases. Less

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<v Speaker 2>than ten days later, however, the Exxon Valdez tanker wrecked

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<v Speaker 2>off the coast of southern Alaska, spilling more than ten

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<v Speaker 2>million gallons of oil in creating lots of images of

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<v Speaker 2>seals and seagulls struggling through the black sludge. That stalled

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<v Speaker 2>energy development of the refuge for a bit, but efforts

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<v Speaker 2>to drill there have come up every few years since then.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty seventeen, the first Trump administration finally passed a

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<v Speaker 2>measure to allow drilling there, but in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>Biden reversed that decision, and in twenty twenty three he

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<v Speaker 2>canceled all existing leases. On Trump's first day in office,

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty five, he once again declared the refuge

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<v Speaker 2>open for drilling. But now in the midst of all

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<v Speaker 2>this controversy, we're seeing the difference between the existence of

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<v Speaker 2>oil and the willingness of companies to actually go up

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<v Speaker 2>there and get them. Since the first least auction in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, very few companies have actually bid. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>in a twenty twenty five auction there wasn't a single bidder.

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<v Speaker 2>The auction this week drew bids on only eleven percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the offered six hundred and eighty nine thousand acres,

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<v Speaker 2>and the winner on three offerings was in fact the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Alaska, for a total of one and a

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<v Speaker 2>half million dollars. So why so little interest if there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much black gold up there. Well, many oil companies

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<v Speaker 2>are worried that a change in administration would cancel another

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<v Speaker 2>round of leases. Further, the Republicans opened the Refuge this

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<v Speaker 2>time around by using the Congressional Review Act to invalidate

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<v Speaker 2>the Management Resource Plan for the Refuge, which we've covered

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<v Speaker 2>many times. It's kind of like a nuclear option, But

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<v Speaker 2>the CRA likely also invalidates every other management Resource plan

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<v Speaker 2>all the way back to nineteen ninety six when the

0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.880
<v Speaker 2>CRA was first passed. That means that all the resource

0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.839
<v Speaker 2>extraction permits that the government has already issued maybe invalid.

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<v Speaker 2>All that has spooked oil companies from rushing into new leases.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though the administration cleared the way for the possibility

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<v Speaker 2>of drilling for oil, they may have actually ruined the

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<v Speaker 2>chances of getting it. If in fact you could get

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<v Speaker 2>to it and make it profitable, unbelievable expense in order

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<v Speaker 2>to develop in the refuge. It's a special place for

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<v Speaker 2>a reason, real hard to get to. Some speculate that

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<v Speaker 2>there could be a pipeline built from Prudeo Bay, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a massive area of development on the western side

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<v Speaker 2>of the refuge and actually in the National Petroleum Reserve,

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<v Speaker 2>and if the prices of oil due to such things

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<v Speaker 2>as the war in Iran continued to climb, that could

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<v Speaker 2>incentivize the development of the leases in the Arctic National

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<v Speaker 2>Wildlife Refuge. However, it would take a long time to develop,

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<v Speaker 2>and wars eventually end right. Moving on to a topic

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<v Speaker 2>we hit at the top ohv Off Highway vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>On Friday May twenty ninth, President Trump issued an executive

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<v Speaker 1>order that could have serious and wide ranging impacts on outdoorsmen.

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<v Speaker 2>The order is dubbed quote Removing Unnecessary and counterproductive restrictions

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<v Speaker 2>on access to Federal Lands. It's not an incredibly creative title,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's definitely not an accurate description of the action.

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<v Speaker 2>The order actually rescinds two other executive orders, one signed

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<v Speaker 2>by former President Nixon in nineteen seventy two. Oddly enough,

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<v Speaker 2>I've compared Trump and Nixon in the past, because in

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<v Speaker 2>Trump won a lot of this en that we got

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<v Speaker 2>done in the name of conservation was incredibly beneficial and

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<v Speaker 2>many people did not see it coming, which makes it very,

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<v Speaker 2>very similar to all the awesome environmental reforms that were

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<v Speaker 2>done under Richard Nixon, which similarly nobody saw coming. It

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<v Speaker 2>also rescinds another executive order by Jimmy Carter back in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy seven that simply clarified parts of the first one. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>those two orders allowed federal agencies to manage how and

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<v Speaker 2>where off road vehicles could travel on public lands. As

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<v Speaker 2>the text of the nineteen seventy two executive order reads,

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<v Speaker 2>it was meant to quote, establish policies and provide for

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<v Speaker 2>procedures that will ensure that the use of off highway

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<v Speaker 2>off road vehicles on public lands will be controlled and

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<v Speaker 2>directed so as to protect the resources of those lands,

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<v Speaker 2>to promote the safety of all users of those lands,

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<v Speaker 2>and to minimize conflicts among the various users of those lands.

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<v Speaker 2>The Trump administration, however, says that these criteria were sub

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<v Speaker 2>objective and difficult for agencies to operationalize in practice because

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<v Speaker 2>they were so vague. A press release states that doing

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<v Speaker 2>so will provide more access and timber production. We need

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<v Speaker 2>to take those claims with a hefty grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 2>While increasing access might sound like a good thing, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not actually what this does. Our public lands are founded

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<v Speaker 2>on the doctrine of multi use, and for this to

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<v Speaker 2>work there needs to be balance. Regulations are important, said

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<v Speaker 2>up many times, we would not be hunting and fishing

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<v Speaker 2>in America today if we didn't say, Holy cow, we

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<v Speaker 2>need to regulate ourselves, our catch limits, our kill limits.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just not enough game to kill it all every season.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine that not everything is allowed everywhere, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing. Some areas have extensive trails FORHV users,

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<v Speaker 2>which are awesome, while others prioritize different types of recreation

0:17:55.080 --> 0:18:00.399
<v Speaker 2>or commercialization, like grazing, and for important reasons Motori Trails

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<v Speaker 2>are known to impact wildlife species such as elk, which

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<v Speaker 2>often stay well away from roads and can be particularly

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerable to disruptions during calving season and where they overwinter.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, elk and deer crossroads, they just don't like

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<v Speaker 2>to bed and have babies next to them, with the

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<v Speaker 2>exception of some notably bad mothers. Anyway, ultimately, Trump's order

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<v Speaker 2>and energy development in previously non motorized areas would hurt

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<v Speaker 2>just about everyone except for the folks lining their own pockets.

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<v Speaker 2>If we look back north to Ambler Road, the two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and eleven mile industrial gravel road in northwestern Alaska

0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.960
<v Speaker 2>that is being developed for private commercial use in one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most pristine environments in North America and beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's recent order is of the same ilk, as is

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<v Speaker 2>his approval to develop the road. What by all means

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<v Speaker 2>appears to be a death by a thousand cuts approach

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<v Speaker 2>to dismantling remote places. Hard to get two places where

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<v Speaker 2>you go, man, I worked really hard and it was

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<v Speaker 2>worth it. Those types of public land protections are fading

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<v Speaker 2>fast across the country. You better get to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>To be clear, it doesn't automatically open the floodgates on

0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.480
<v Speaker 2>back country spots. But as I mentioned in the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the in the segment here, every group hunters, golfers,

0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.280
<v Speaker 2>OHV users, We got folks who liked to color outside

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<v Speaker 2>the lines. Bad actors. You give them an inch, they

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<v Speaker 2>take a mile. And that's what's happening right now. According

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<v Speaker 2>to the professionals on the ground, we're seeing gates, ripped

0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:39.520
<v Speaker 2>out signs, ripped out and rampant off road vehicle use

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<v Speaker 2>literally off the roads through sensitive areas. The whole darn

0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:50.080
<v Speaker 2>system works because we regulate ourselves. Gang, trust me when

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<v Speaker 2>I say backcountry hunters and anglers will be at the table,

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<v Speaker 2>as will a coalition of conservation groups and timber industry

0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:03.440
<v Speaker 2>representatives and motorsports rep presentatives. So should you call your senators,

0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.520
<v Speaker 2>call your congressmen and women, And if you've got more

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.679
<v Speaker 2>thoughts or questions on the issue, give me a shout

0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:14.040
<v Speaker 2>at askcl at the meaeater dot com and go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and just sign up for a membership.

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<v Speaker 3>Will you?

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on to some better news on the policy desk.

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<v Speaker 2>On May twenty six, the US Department of Interior announced

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<v Speaker 2>plans to expand hunting and fishing opportunities at national wildlife

0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.240
<v Speaker 2>refuges across the country. The agency is billing it as

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<v Speaker 2>the quote the largest in history of the US Fish

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<v Speaker 2>and Wildlife Service. Ultimately, the move will increase hook and

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<v Speaker 2>bullet access at one hundred and seven National Wildlife refuges

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<v Speaker 2>and four fish hatcheries. Some of the changes are relatively

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<v Speaker 2>small scale, increasing the timeframe and or zones of existing opportunities,

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<v Speaker 2>while others are larger. Fourteen refuges in three hatcheries will

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<v Speaker 2>have their first ever hunting or sport fishing opportunities. The

0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 2>proposed rule also revises the complexity of some regulations in

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<v Speaker 2>the refuge system, which is all the better after it's implemented.

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<v Speaker 2>It would make over ninety five percent of national refuge

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<v Speaker 2>system lands open to hunting, which is a darn good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We do pay for him by your duck stamp. The

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<v Speaker 2>only caveat here is a little disingenuous the way this

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<v Speaker 2>thing was pitched. Some of the changes that were reported

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<v Speaker 2>as opening up access, we're actually taking existing hunting opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>on refuges that already existed and making them conform to

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<v Speaker 2>the state regulations. So I think that was like a

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<v Speaker 2>clerical error. Let's call it a typo makes it sound

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<v Speaker 2>a lot better than it is, because it's not adding

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<v Speaker 2>actually new opportunities and acres. With the exception of right,

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<v Speaker 2>if the refuge regulation said you can only shoot five

0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.600
<v Speaker 2>ducks here and the state said you can shoot seven

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<v Speaker 2>ducks anywhere else in the state, that would technically be

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<v Speaker 2>expanded opportunity, but the implication in the public is that

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<v Speaker 2>it never existed before. You couldn't hunt here, now you can,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas the reality is you could hunt there. Now you can.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's more simple because it conforms to state regulations,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm all for. But you know it's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be accurate, right Gang. There's a public comment period on

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<v Speaker 2>this one. You can give the FEDS your perspective on

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<v Speaker 2>changes over at www dot regulations dot gov. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>I got for you this week. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for listening, and remember to write into ask c Al

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<v Speaker 2>that's Ascal at the Meat eater dot com. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>You know we appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks again. We'll talk to you next week.