1 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: Hey Brown Ambition fam Happy Brown Ambition Tuesday. This is Mandy. 2 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: I wanted to share a very special episode today. This 3 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: is actually originally aired last Thanksgiving and it's one of 4 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: our most popular episodes to date. So as Tiffany and 5 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: I enjoy a little bit of a summer break this week, 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: please enjoy our interview with Patrese C. 7 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: Washington. 8 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: Just seven years ago, Patrese was scraping up all the 9 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: change in her purse to buy baby formula for her 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: newborn daughter. Now, Patrese is a best selling author and 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: founder and CEO of Sikh Wisdom find Wealth, a boutique 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: personal finance consulting firm based in Atlanta, Georgia. Patrese joined 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: us on the show to talk about hitting rock bottom 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: and how she clawed her way back to the top. 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: She also talked about her new book, Real Money Answers 16 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: for Everyday Women, which you can still find online and 17 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: in bookstores nationwide. So, without further ado, here's our interview 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: with Patrese. 19 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: Okay, guys, we have a very special guest today. 20 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: I'm super excited. 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 4: Probably like our top five favorite people in the personal 22 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 4: finance space today. 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: I'd say top three, but whatever, top three. 24 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: Top two to our top one person. 25 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 5: We have the. 26 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 4: Brilliant, the beautiful, amazing, the amazing, wonderful Patrise. C. Washington 27 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 4: got to get the CEA in there and then now 28 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 4: goes wild. 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 6: You guys are in such like in for such a tree. Honestly, 30 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 6: I've been following for Trees on her journey since I 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 6: don't know, I think maybe since like twenty ten is when. 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: It's gone to add it for what over a decade now, Patrise? Right? 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 7: Oh gosh, yes not to You know, you have an 34 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 7: amazing history since two thousand and three, you've been a 35 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 7: You're a nationally recognized best selling author of the book 36 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 7: series Real Money Answers and which is amazing. 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: You also have a recurring segment on none other than 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 4: the Steve Harvey Show. 39 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: Check check might have heard about it. Yeah, just a 40 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 2: little shout so radio and on on the TV show, 41 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: right Patrese yep right, Yeah. 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 4: It featured pretty much on the every media outlet out there, NBC, 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 4: Black Enterprise, Huffing and Post upscale and to get on 44 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: the Steve Harvey Show. So we could not be happier 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: to have you here, Patrise, thanks so much for coming 46 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 4: on Brown ambish. 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 5: Thank you, You're so excited. I'm so excited. 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 8: And it feels good to move up from like top 49 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 8: ten to top five, the top three, all in one conversation, 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 8: all right, in a matter of seconds, like I'm winning today. 51 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 5: Thank you, You're welcome. 52 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: So what I loved about you I heard you'd give 53 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 4: a talk a couple of years ago where you talked 54 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: about how you weren't always the money Maven. Yeah, you 55 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 4: had some pretty humble beginning when it came to dealing 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 4: with your finances. So I wanted to start off by 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: just asking you to talk about that, you know, your 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: early days and some of the mistakes you made. 59 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, just some of the mistakes I don't even 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 5: want to work to start. Well. 61 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 8: You know, I always say that all those accolades are great, 62 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 8: and I really appreciate them. It's been a real blessing 63 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 8: to be able to share my message because my hope 64 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 8: is really to move the masses. 65 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 5: From debt management to money mastery. 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 8: And as I go out speaking all over the country 67 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 8: and doing all these interviews and you know, just getting 68 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 8: to do what I do, what I love to do, 69 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 8: I always meet people who say, but you don't understand 70 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 8: what it's like, or you don't understand what it means 71 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 8: to choose between you know, having to pay your life 72 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 8: bill and wanting to save or wanting to invest. 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 5: And I'm like, I don't know, no, sweetie, I know 74 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 5: very well. 75 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 8: Let me tell you a little story. And so, really, 76 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 8: I mean, I didn't grow up hearing about money. I've 77 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 8: heard Tiffany share her story and I'm always so impressed 78 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 8: by her dad and what he imparted to her. 79 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 5: But I didn't have any of that. 80 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 8: And so but was still able to go on to 81 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 8: college and started in real estate at nineteen years old 82 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 8: as a sophomore in college. Became a real estate and 83 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 8: mortgage broker at twenty one as a senior in college. 84 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 5: Actually started my business while in school, which has its 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 5: pros and. 86 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 8: Cons, but that's another story. If you have financial aide, 87 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 8: there's a con there. But started this really great business 88 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 8: during my senior year in college, and it was a 89 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 8: real estate and mortgage company. Loved you know, helping people 90 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 8: budget and get their credit in order and all those 91 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 8: things because it was going to move them towards purchasing 92 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 8: a home, which is how I could make money. So 93 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 8: of course I was super passionate about getting people. 94 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 5: You know, on the path. 95 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 8: But at the same time, there were pieces to that 96 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 8: puzzle beyond budgeting and credit that I really didn't know about. 97 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 8: And so while I was helping everyone else, the recession 98 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 8: hit around circa like two thousand and seven, two thousand 99 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 8: and eight, and I lost everything. 100 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 5: I lost everything. 101 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 8: So here I am, the little girl from south central 102 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 8: Los Angeles, went to college, started a business. 103 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 5: Thought. 104 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 8: I did everything the right way and still found myself 105 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 8: flat broke with everybody else. 106 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: And you should say I had the time to right. 107 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: It wasn't just you, It wasn't just me. 108 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 5: I had just gotten married. I had spent ten weeks 109 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 5: in the hospital on bet rest to have my daughter, who. 110 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 8: Was still born ten weeks prematurely, which is a big deal. 111 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 5: You know for those of us who are mothers out there, 112 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 5: you know. 113 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 8: That every week counts, and so my daughter was born 114 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 8: at thirty weeks, which is extremely early. And so in 115 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 8: the process of all of that, the real estate market 116 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 8: was crashing. You know, I had tenants in my income 117 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 8: properties that weren't paying rent. I owed all this money, 118 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 8: and at the same time I was racking up a 119 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 8: four hundred thousand dollars medical bill, and by the time 120 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 8: I got out of the hospital, everything around me had changed. 121 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 5: It's like the whole world changed. 122 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 8: A matter of about nine to ten weeks. And I 123 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 8: had a decision to make. Am I going to worry 124 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 8: about car notes and mortgages or am I going to 125 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 8: take care of this baby who's ten weeks early, who 126 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 8: needs my undivided attention at this point? And you know, 127 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 8: and I chose. I chose my family. 128 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 6: And I'm telling a story about how at one point 129 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 6: your rock rock bottom was when you were counting out 130 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 6: change to buy milk for your daughter. 131 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 5: Yeah. 132 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I had built a seven figure business, and like 133 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 8: it seemed like overnight I was scraping up change to 134 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 8: feed my daughter. 135 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: Are you and your husband in the business together? 136 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 5: We were? 137 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 8: We were so everything you had was tied up everything. 138 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 8: You know when people say like, don't put all your 139 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 8: eggs in one basket, right, So we always thought like, oh, well, 140 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 8: we own investment property, and we flip homes, and we 141 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 8: have this company, and we have an escro company, and 142 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 8: we do. 143 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 5: This and we do that. But all of it was 144 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 5: connected to real estate. And so when that bubble burst, 145 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 5: we felt it on every level, and it was only 146 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 5: so long that we could juggle. We tried to juggle 147 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 5: for about a. 148 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 8: Year, you know, Robin Peter to pay Paul and you 149 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 8: know that expression and just trying to shift things and okay, 150 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 8: I made it just in time. And you guys, honestly, 151 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 8: it was exhausting. It got exhausting. Here I have this 152 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 8: little baby I'm trying to take care of and figure 153 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 8: out this whole motherhood thing. And then I went through 154 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 8: like a period of postpartum depression. So as much as 155 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 8: I loved my baby, I went through this phase where 156 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 8: I was like, what am I supposed to do with her? 157 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 5: Like what is you know? 158 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 8: Like I prayed for her and I waited for her, 159 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 8: and I you know, but it didn't come naturally to 160 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 8: me to be the doting mother. 161 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 5: It just didn't. And so there was so many different 162 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 5: things going on. 163 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 8: And I know, like when people have their back up 164 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 8: against the wall with finances, it's not just that, Like, 165 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 8: there's so many other things in life that happened, and 166 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 8: I was just overwhelmed when. 167 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: I turned the corner, like when did it finally? Let Yeah, I. 168 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 5: Just found myself. 169 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 8: Literally we had moved from California to New Orleans, Louisiana, 170 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 8: to rehab the last of the properties that we owned, 171 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 8: hoping that we could squeeze some money out of those. Well, 172 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 8: the market kept tanking and we didn't squeeze anything out 173 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 8: of that. 174 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 5: But I ended up in a strange. 175 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 8: City, in a foreign city to me, with no friends 176 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 8: and no family and a little bitty baby and just 177 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 8: the three of us, my husband and Reagan and I 178 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 8: and I just found myself on the bathroom floor crying, 179 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 8: literally crying, bawling, ugly. 180 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 5: Sobbing, like what did I do? Why? Why? Why? Like 181 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 5: what am I supposed to do with this? 182 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 8: And I always say, like I tell people, I reach 183 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 8: for my Bible and I opened it to this scripture 184 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 8: like that I had read several times before, but you know, 185 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 8: you know, things hit you a. 186 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 5: Different way at a different time, you know. 187 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 8: So I had seen it before, but it didn't mean 188 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 8: anything to me. And it was probably seventeen sixteen and 189 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 8: basically said what good is money in the hands of 190 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 8: a fool if they have no desire to seek wisdom? 191 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 8: And for the first time for me, what hit me 192 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 8: was I did really well, really early, which leads you 193 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 8: to believe that you're actually smart. 194 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because you're in your early twenties at this point, right, yeah, 195 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine. 196 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 4: All that responsibility on your shoulders and then to see 197 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: it all crash. 198 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 199 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 8: You know, I have a business with sixteen employees, I 200 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 8: own thirteen pieces of property. 201 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 5: You know, I've been in the hospital. I have this baby, 202 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 5: this newborn baby who's teeny tiny. I mean, my daughter 203 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 5: was three pounds. You know. People would see her and like, oh, 204 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 5: is that a doll in there? We're like, no, that's 205 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: a child. She's alive. 206 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: She's so beautiful. 207 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 8: Now. 208 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: I love seeing your pictures on Facebook. 209 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 5: Oh thank you. Yeah, she's eight years old now, love 210 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 5: of my life. 211 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 8: But you know, during that time, it's like, man, it 212 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 8: hit me like you thought you were too smart to 213 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 8: ask for help. And that has been the thing that 214 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 8: has been the biggest lesson to me, Like I like 215 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 8: to understand that you need coaching, you need men, you 216 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 8: need help, You need to talk to people who have 217 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 8: been there, done that, who are transparent enough to share 218 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 8: their journey and. 219 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 5: Be real about it, you know. And I never sought 220 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 5: that out. 221 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 8: I didn't even realize that that was a thing until 222 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 8: reading that Verse in that moment, and so a couple 223 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 8: weeks later, it came to me that, you know, just 224 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 8: because I lost all my money, my mind wasn't bad. 225 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 8: You know, like what I did to get it, I 226 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 8: just knew I could do it again. So I said, 227 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 8: you know what, God, I dedicate you know, my life 228 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 8: to you. And I'm like, this mission for me is 229 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 8: to help people, not do what I did. So I 230 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 8: created Seek Wisdom Find Wealth, which is my company today 231 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 8: in two thousand and nine. And Seek Wisdom Find Wealth 232 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 8: is all about helping people not just budget and credit 233 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 8: and all that stuff, because it's great, but you need 234 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 8: the wisdom to maintain it. 235 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 5: And wisdom comes from. 236 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 8: Being able to just talk to people to Wisdom comes 237 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 8: from being able to sit and listen to something like 238 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 8: brown ambition and like learning you know what I'm saying, 239 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 8: and learning from other people's mistakes. 240 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 4: Who were some of the people you reached out to 241 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: in the beginning You said that you sought wisdom first 242 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 4: from mentors and other people that you looked up to. 243 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: Who were some of those people that were helpful to you? 244 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 8: Oh, let's see, at that time, there were a lot 245 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 8: of more So like my pastors, like people back home 246 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 8: that used to be my pastors. I had a great 247 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 8: mentor named George Thompson, and he was actually the minister 248 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 8: of storship at the church that I attended, and so 249 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 8: he was the first person that I saw do what 250 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 8: I do today, like stand up and talk about money 251 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 8: at a church service, and I had never seen anything 252 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 8: like that. I was about twenty two years old, and 253 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 8: I reached out to him. I'm like, you know, I 254 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 8: had to humble myself because all everyone knew was that 255 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 8: Gerald and I, my husband and I had built this 256 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 8: real estate empire and everything was roses. 257 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 5: But then you know, everything hit. 258 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 8: Rock bottom and we like got ghosts. You know, you're 259 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 8: not out at parties anymore. 260 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 5: I mean gas or lights. 261 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 8: You know, it's like no gas to go cross town, 262 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 8: not about to do that, you know. So we just 263 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 8: disappeared and people didn't know to where. They didn't know 264 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 8: what happened with Reagan. You know, no one knew anything. 265 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 8: And so I started to reach out to just the 266 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 8: people like George Thompson who had blessed me at different 267 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 8: points in my life, reaching out to my pastor. You know, 268 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 8: Steve Harvey has been a mentor of mine since I 269 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 8: was in college. I used to work for him as well, 270 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 8: around the same time I was in real estate. I 271 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 8: also worked on his radio show when it was Just 272 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 8: in LA And so. 273 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: That's that connection. Let's talk about Steve. 274 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, how does one wind up as Steve's go to 275 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: money Maven money Expert? Because that's amazing you're doing. You're 276 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 4: speaking to such a people that I think really could 277 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: use someone like you telling them, you know, inspiring them 278 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 4: to manage your finances. 279 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I mean it's all been so random, 280 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 8: Like that's the best time. 281 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, it's all been so random. 282 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 8: So I'll tell you, guys, I really quickly when I 283 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 8: even met him when. 284 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,359 Speaker 5: I was in college. 285 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 8: It was because I heard him on the radio and 286 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 8: literally to myself, I was I was a vice president 287 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 8: of Black Student Union at USC, and I said to myself, like, 288 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 8: he sounds like he has money. 289 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 5: Like I'm going to go. 290 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 8: They said, do you want to come to the live 291 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 8: studio audience? So I was like, yeah, I'm going to 292 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 8: the live studio audience and I'm going to ask Steve 293 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 8: Harvey for some money for Black Student Union at USC. 294 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 5: He didn't go there, but of course he cares. 295 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 8: You know whatever nineteen year old logic I had at 296 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 8: the time, and I wrote. 297 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 5: This letter on Oh no, actually you had to fax. 298 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 8: In if you wanted to come. You guys, I've jammed 299 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 8: their fax machine. Wow, I faxed like seventy times. 300 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 5: This is fact today, right, and guy and like you 301 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 5: feel me? 302 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 8: Like the guy called and he was like, well, you 303 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 8: have to come because you jammed the fax machine. 304 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 5: Like he was so mad at me. 305 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 8: He's my friend now, but it's like he was so 306 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 8: mad at me at that time. So I made it 307 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 8: into the live studio audience and as soon as I 308 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 8: walked in, they were like, no soliciting. 309 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 5: And I'm like, they must be talking to these other 310 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 5: thirty or so people. 311 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 8: Because I came here to get this money. I leave 312 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 8: it without it, and I'm very. 313 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 5: Clear about that. So at the end, people kept like 314 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 5: leaving and I. 315 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 8: Kept letting them go in front of me like oh no, 316 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 8: you go ahead, I'm good and taking a step back 317 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 8: and taking a step back and taking a step back. 318 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 8: And then finally the guy who was over the audience 319 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 8: was like, you know, what are you doing? Like why 320 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 8: are you still here? Are you trying to ask for something? 321 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 8: Are you? 322 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 5: No? 323 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 8: He said, are you soliciting? And I'm like, I wouldn't 324 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 8: call it solictening. Let me tell you who I am. 325 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 8: And I started on this whole thing and told him 326 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 8: that I went to sc and he goes, oh, I 327 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 8: used to be the Chicano student union president at USC. 328 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 8: Hold on, let me let me see what I can do. 329 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 8: Like I was blowing, my girl who was the president 330 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 8: left like I was the vice president. 331 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 5: She was president and she got scared and walked. 332 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: Out here and she needed to be impeached. 333 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: Well, she maybe had more to lose. 334 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 5: So she left. 335 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 8: So I'm up there, and long story short, it ended 336 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 8: up being there, ended up being a relationship there. They 337 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 8: just thought I was funny, like this girl. It was 338 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 8: crazy because I kept coming back asking for money, and 339 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 8: eventually I asked for five hundred. They gave me two thousand. 340 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 8: Then started the relationship. 341 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 5: And then they asked if I wanted to be an intern, 342 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 5: which I turned down because it was unpaid, but then 343 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 5: got bored and needed something due, so I said, okay. 344 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 8: I'll do it my sophomore year in college. And so 345 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 8: that started a fifteen year relationship that I have with 346 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 8: Steve Harvey. Now, now how I got put on as 347 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 8: his money expert for everything really because he watched me 348 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 8: do the work, you know, he called me he had. 349 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 8: The producer of the radio show reached out to me 350 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 8: about two months before Real Money Answers for every Woman 351 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 8: came out the first time when I self published in 352 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 8: twenty fourteen. She reached out to me around November of 353 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 8: twenty thirteen and said, hey, when does your book come out? 354 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 8: And I told her the date, like January eighth, I 355 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 8: think it was, and she said, oh, okay, And I 356 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 8: was like, well, that was strange and didn't think I mean, 357 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 8: you know, they're strange people over there, so I didn't 358 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 8: think anything of it. No, they're all like family, but 359 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 8: so I didn't think anything of it. I was like whatever. 360 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 8: And then she calls back, maybe a couple hours later, 361 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 8: she says, Harvey wants to help you debut the book. 362 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 8: And I just I was like, oh my gosh, like 363 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 8: I've never asked for anything except for that five hundred 364 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 8: dollars early on. I hadn't asked for anything ever. And 365 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 8: so I went on the first time. The day the 366 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 8: book came out, you know, we instantly made it an 367 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 8: Amazon bestseller. I was so you know, just throw with 368 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 8: the opportunity. I was more than grateful over the moon 369 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 8: and didn't think anything of it. And then they said, 370 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 8: we got eight hundred plus emails from people who wanted 371 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 8: to know your name or the name of the book 372 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 8: or asking questions, so you have to come back. And 373 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 8: I went back about three weeks later, same response. And 374 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 8: then I went back maybe two weeks after that, same response, 375 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 8: and then he said, oh, hell, just do it every week. 376 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: I love that. 377 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 6: But you know, you said something so so so powerful 378 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 6: because someone could look at you and. 379 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: Be like, well, yeah, she's gorgeous. 380 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 3: And she's this, and she's no. 381 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 6: You said that you did the work, and that's like 382 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 6: a such an important thing I think, to just really 383 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 6: impress upon that you did the work. This is a 384 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 6: fifteen year relationship. This wasn't just some fluke, you know, 385 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 6: ri success. 386 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: And you know what is really important for me to. 387 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 8: Let people know as well, because they think, like, oh, well, 388 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 8: you know Steve Harvey. So clearly no, not at all. 389 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 8: Lots of people know Steve Harvey. 390 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 5: Well no, folks. 391 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 8: But the thing is, he told me on a commercial 392 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 8: break that second time I was on, he said, you 393 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 8: know why I would always help you. And I was like, no, sir, 394 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 8: you know, like, why is that? He said, because you 395 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 8: never asked? He said, you never asked. People come in 396 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 8: and ask. They don't have their stuff together, they're not 397 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 8: on their social media, they haven't written something of quality, 398 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 8: they're not doing videos, they're not out there speaking, they're 399 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 8: not doing anything, and they want me to put them 400 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 8: on and. 401 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 5: Create some type of Oprah effect. It means nothing. 402 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 8: If you get the opportunity, but you haven't built a 403 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 8: strong foundation, none. 404 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 5: Of that means anything. 405 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 8: So before even the Steve Harvey opportunity came, I was already. 406 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 5: Writing for Black Enterprise. I was already writing for Huffington Post. 407 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 5: I was already writing every week for Hello Beautiful for 408 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 5: like two years. I was already out there speaking. I 409 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 5: was already doing YouTube. 410 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 8: Videos like so if he could look and see like, oh, 411 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 8: Patresa's out here, like she's she's doing her thing, let 412 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 8: me give. 413 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 5: Her a hand up and not a handout. 414 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 6: We just mentioned that last I'm so glad you said that, 415 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 6: And Andy was was that my brown break? 416 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 417 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: I was asking for people who want something for you 418 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: without giving. 419 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 6: You yes, like asking for handout, Like help is different 420 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 6: from a handout. And I'm sure now, especially with you 421 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 6: doing you know so well, But sometimes my emails, I'm like, 422 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 6: come on, have you put an air. 423 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 8: Girl, Tiffany that we have to talk about that. 424 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 5: The other day we have to talk about. 425 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 8: It's like I don't mind And Steve says this, I 426 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 8: don't mind, you know, teaching you to fish, but I'm 427 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 8: not gonna hand you a fish sandwich, you know what 428 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 8: I'm saying, And like people't want you to give them 429 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 8: a fully cooked, fully prepared, and knock up situation. 430 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 5: It's like, ma'am, absolutely not. 431 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 4: You know what about the women out there who maybe 432 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: feel like they are doing the work but don't feel 433 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: like they're getting their recognition. Do you have any advice 434 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 4: for them or something you could offer and maybe that 435 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 4: made you different or stand out? 436 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 8: You know what I look for God winks all along 437 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 8: the way God I look for godwinks. I look for 438 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 8: little little notes that just say you're on the right path, 439 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 8: you're on the right path, you're moving in the right direction. 440 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 8: And that doesn't always come from huge recognition. You know, 441 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 8: early on when I first started blogging in two thousand 442 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 8: and nine twenty ten, like you know, nobody knew who 443 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 8: I was, and I was I was just blogging and 444 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 8: hoping that my mama read it. 445 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 5: And half the time she didn't either. You know. I'd 446 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 5: be like, did you like what I wrote this week? 447 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 8: She's like, ah, you know, didn't get a chance to 448 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 8: go over, you know, And so you know, it was 449 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 8: one day when I didn't, I was like I felt defeated, 450 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 8: you know, for like a period, I'm like, I don't 451 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 8: know what I'm doing, Like I don't even know how 452 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 8: this blog thing works. I wasn't on social media yet 453 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 8: and I was just joining Twitter, you know, I. 454 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 5: Was just trying to figure it out. 455 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 8: And a random guy emails me and says, I hope 456 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 8: you're okay. You haven't blogged in a while. And I said, 457 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 8: oh my gosh, I. 458 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 5: Don't even know him. Who is he? Where did he 459 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 5: come from? 460 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 8: You know, like I had no idea, and just that 461 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 8: note to me let me know that you're making a difference, 462 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 8: even if it's for one person. And that was my 463 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 8: god wing to keep going. And I could tell you today, 464 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 8: like if he had to email me, I don't know 465 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 8: where i'd be today because his email encouraged me to keep, 466 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 8: you know, to keep blogging every week to start sharing 467 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 8: with other people to read. You know, so I look 468 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 8: for those little things. It's always it's not always going 469 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 8: to be the big recognition. You know, now more people 470 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 8: know me, but five years ago nobody did. 471 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 5: But that didn't mean that, you know, I could take 472 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 5: a break. 473 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 8: I thought it did, like, you know, this is not 474 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 8: working out, but there's always someone you're blessing and you have, 475 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 8: you know, I always ask. 476 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 5: People to like, what are your motives? Like, what are 477 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 5: your motives for doing what you do? 478 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 8: Because is it truly to impact the people or is 479 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 8: it to get the recognition of man? The recognition is great, 480 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 8: but it's a byproduct of your mission to impact other people. 481 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 6: Agreed, somebody for somebody out there right now. That's your guidewing. 482 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 6: Just in case you didn't get it. 483 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: Get it. 484 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 4: Maybe if you're working really hard and not getting to 485 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 4: where you want to be, maybe you're not doing it 486 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 4: for the right reasons. 487 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 2: That could be a factor. 488 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: Or what you're doing maybe isn't what you really want 489 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: to be doing deep down, or. 490 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 5: What you should be doing. 491 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 8: You know, I meet a lot of people who are 492 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 8: you're an author's speaker, coach because that looks popular because 493 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 8: everybody is an author's speaker, coach right now, you know, 494 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 8: like in social media that you see, you know, it's 495 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 8: like in social media, that's what you see, you know, 496 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 8: But are you really doing the work that you were 497 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 8: called to do? People ask me, like, you know, why 498 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 8: I chose this? I really didn't choose this. I don't 499 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 8: believe that I chose it. I believe that it's a calling, 500 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 8: you know, And so sometimes I think we focus on 501 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 8: what looks popular instead of focusing on what's truly our purpose, 502 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 8: and then we get lost in trying to do all 503 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 8: of those other things. Even for those people who feel 504 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 8: like they're somewhat you know, they found success or they've 505 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 8: gotten recognition and what they're doing, but they're coveting what 506 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 8: somebody else has going on, and they want to do 507 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 8: what somebody else has that might not be your lane. 508 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 509 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 8: So you got a question like, am I truly doing 510 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 8: this because I'm called to do it and because I 511 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 8: truly care about the people that I serve or am 512 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 8: I doing it for the recognition? 513 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 5: And you know, well, I honestly I want. 514 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 4: To just interrupt, because you do have kind of a 515 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: big deal happening right now. Your book Real Woman or sorry, 516 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: Real Money Answers for Women is coming out. When is 517 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 4: it coming out? 518 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 8: Real Money Answers for every Woman comes back out January nineteenth, 519 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 8: twenty sixteen, and I'm super excited some time for. 520 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: New Year's Resolution. 521 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, I'm super super excited because when I saw Patrit, 522 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 6: I think you posted I don't know if it was 523 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 6: last year when you got the contract with the major publisher, 524 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 6: but you bold it like this beautiful story. 525 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: I think it was about your grandmother. 526 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 527 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: I was like clearing up at this in front of 528 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 3: my computer, like. 529 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 5: Go ahead, Patria, what Yeah? 530 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 8: I mean that means so much to me because, you know, 531 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 8: I always share that my grandmother didn't have a sixth 532 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 8: grade education and was basically illiterate, and she passed away 533 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 8: in January twenty thirteen, and it was at the time 534 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 8: that I was writing Real Money Answers for every Woman, 535 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 8: And again, it was one of those moments where I 536 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 8: wanted to I wanted to dwell on my grandmother's passing, 537 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 8: you know, because I was so busy being busy, and 538 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 8: I lived out of state and I didn't get to 539 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 8: spend time with her the way that I wanted to 540 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 8: like that last year, and so there was a lot 541 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 8: of guilt and I was just feeling some kind of way. 542 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 8: And my grandmother came to me in a dream shortly 543 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 8: after she passed and was yelling at me like she 544 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 8: often does. I'm Caribbean, I'm Belliegian, myda, yeah, yeah, I'm Belleian. 545 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 8: And my grandmother was yelling at me with this thick accent, 546 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 8: like telling me basically to get my life in order. 547 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 8: And she said all these things and I couldn't quite 548 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 8: put it together. 549 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 5: And I talked to someone in our family who interpreted dreams, 550 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 5: and she. 551 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 8: Said, basically, she's saying, you need to finish whatever work 552 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 8: of art or creative. 553 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 5: Body you're working on. And I was like, work of art, 554 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 5: what is that creative body? And I'm like, oh, my book. 555 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 8: And she was telling me in the dream that it 556 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 8: would change lives and it would change my life. And 557 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 8: the book came out January the next year, January twenty fourteen, 558 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 8: a couple of days before her passing. Heard the anniversary 559 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 8: of her passing, and it did. It totally changed my life. 560 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 8: It's what you got me to The Steve Harvey Show. 561 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 8: Which has gotten me to so many other things. Thousands 562 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 8: of women have reached out to me literally talking, you know, 563 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 8: telling me about their testimonies and how it's blessed them 564 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 8: and how it's restored their relationship with siblings or their 565 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 8: you know, their spouses and all this stuff. I did 566 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 8: eighteen thousand copies, so self published awesome. And then January 567 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 8: twenty fifteen, I got the deal with HarperCollins. They reached 568 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 8: out to me about wanting to re release the book 569 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 8: under their label and make it available everywhere, making it 570 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 8: available everywhere books are sold, and so. 571 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: First and the publisher reached out to you. 572 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, so January is a good month for you. 573 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 8: You know what, these last few years, since January twenty twelve, 574 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 8: it has been working out to be a very good 575 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 8: month for me. 576 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 5: I look forward to January's. 577 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the book. 578 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 4: I think what I love most about the idea of 579 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: the book is that you're not just talking about budgeting, 580 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 4: well that's important, and how to save money and how 581 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 4: do you know coupon and stuff. You really emphasize what 582 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: we love talking about with you, gay money, how to make. 583 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: More earn you get. 584 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: More out of life. So talk to us about some 585 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 4: of the advice you have for women in your book 586 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 4: and why you're really focusing on building wealth. 587 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, just from a byproduct of being out 588 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 8: there and speaking and receiving people's questions, I hear like, 589 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 8: probably eight times out of ten people say, well, I 590 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 8: don't do that because. 591 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 5: I don't earn enough. 592 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 8: And it just came up constantly to the point where 593 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 8: I was like, you know, when I think about a 594 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 8: lot of the books that I even read on personal finance, 595 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 8: there's a lot of information about what to do once 596 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 8: you have. 597 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 5: It, but the gap there is well, how do I 598 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: get it? You know? 599 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 8: And so I dedicated an entire section to earning more 600 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 8: money in the book. And it's not just about entrepreneurship, 601 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 8: because I realized that everyone is not called to be 602 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 8: an entrepreneur. 603 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 5: And to your earlier question, Mandy, that might be why. 604 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 8: Some of us are not getting where we want to 605 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 8: go because this life save. 606 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 4: For you Booth, thank you for saying real, not everyone's 607 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: meant to have their own business. 608 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 8: It's okay, you know, it's like it's like a craze, 609 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 8: you know, and it's you know, I really struggle with 610 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 8: quote unquote experts who make people feel that if they're 611 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 8: not out there hustling and you know, doing their own thing, 612 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 8: that they're doing something wrong. 613 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 5: Like I employ people. 614 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 8: I need them to you know what I'm saying, I 615 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 8: need them to run what I'm trying to do. Everybody 616 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 8: is not supposed to be their own boss. 617 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 5: They're just not. 618 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 8: And that's okay because you can serve in a different 619 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 8: way and still fulfill your purpose. And so in the 620 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 8: book I talk about workplace with them. 621 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 5: You know. 622 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 8: So if your thing is I need to earn more 623 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 8: money while I'm you know, on someone else's dime or 624 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 8: in someone else's job, can we talk about the fact that, 625 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 8: you know, if you want to raise you should probably 626 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 8: get to work on time, like cant. 627 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 5: We Is that too much to No, that's not too 628 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 5: much to ask to. 629 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 8: Ask, you know, like or you know you want the promotion, 630 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 8: you got to ask for it, you know. And it 631 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 8: can't be an emotional ask, ladies. It can't be like, well, 632 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 8: I feel like and you know because you see me 633 00:27:59,280 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 8: come early. 634 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 5: You know I leave late. 635 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: You kids, Yeah, I got. 636 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 8: KIDCA fees, you know, I got bills due. Listen, all 637 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 8: of that is true, and we hey. 638 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 5: We support you, we honor you. However, that's not a 639 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 5: good case to present to your boss or superior or 640 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 5: supervisor whomever. Right, So in the book, I talk about 641 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 5: strategies for building your bag folder. You know, what value 642 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 5: are you bringing to the table. 643 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 8: It can't just be about what you feel like, you know, 644 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 8: it has to be about the research. You have to 645 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 8: quantify what you've been able to do, because at the 646 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 8: end of the day, business is not all about emotions. 647 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 8: It's about the bottom line. And are you adding to 648 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 8: the bottom line? Are you are you saving the company money? 649 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 5: What are you doing? 650 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 8: Are you even in the right position? Does it really 651 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 8: serve you? Are you really doing the work that you 652 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 8: feel called to do, or do you just have a job. 653 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 8: There's nothing wrong with having a job, it's do you 654 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 8: have the right job for you? Because I realize that 655 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 8: when people are unfulfilled in their careers, usually that leads 656 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 8: them to mismanage their finances. Because I need so many 657 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 8: women who are quick to go to the mall on 658 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 8: a Friday because they're frustrated with everything that they've been 659 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 8: through all week, you know, And then we get into 660 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 8: justifying our purchases, like, oh, I work hard I deserve it. 661 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 8: Oh they don't work me this week. Oh no, that's 662 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 8: them working you this week. Doesn't justify you buying you know, 663 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 8: those pumps that you can't afford, you know, like those 664 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 8: two things don't go together. So instead of trying to 665 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 8: justify what you don't like about where you are, let's 666 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 8: work on putting you where you really belong so that 667 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 8: you can prioritize and then find prosperity. 668 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: So you said, January what day again? 669 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 5: Nineteenth? 670 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 6: Ooh January nineteenth, ladies, go and get it honestly. Like, 671 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 6: so for those of y'all who are listening, you know, 672 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 6: I'm the budget Lisa, and so many of the women 673 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 6: that I that work with me or follow me or 674 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 6: they love them some patrits. 675 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 3: They're like, do you know, p'tray somebody? You want to 676 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: get you autographed? 677 00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: Hold on? 678 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 6: Yes, I had enough mosbe now. But no, honestly, they 679 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 6: love you. They're attracted to your You're obviously you know, 680 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 6: your financial savvy, but also your genuiness. 681 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: Just you're you give it to them straight. 682 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 6: So I'm so excited for this like second coming of 683 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 6: this amazing book, and I just know that it's gonna 684 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 6: do well, and I can't wait for your challenge, so 685 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 6: this is kind of I guess we can. 686 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: Announce it here even Manny doesn't. 687 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so for those of you who wait, you 688 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: need to do a setup that breaking, yes, breaking. 689 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 6: So for anybody who follows me the Budgetista online every January, well, 690 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 6: starting this January, I do this thing called the Live 691 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 6: Richer Challenge, and we have about twenty thousand women signed 692 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 6: up already. We'll have thirty thousand by January. And Patrisa 693 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 6: and I were just talking last week and she's doing 694 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 6: her challenge in February. What's the name of your challenge again? 695 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 5: The Earn More Money Challenge for Women. 696 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 6: So the Earn More Money Challenge for Women. So we're 697 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 6: gonna partner because I thought this doesn't make sense. So 698 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 6: many women need so I'm going to be teaching you 699 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 6: how to save and how to start collecting more abundance 700 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 6: and then feed you right into the Earn More Money 701 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 6: Challenge for Women by for tries. So we're partnering. So 702 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 6: I just think it'll be awesome. 703 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 5: I'm so excited, Aya so excited. 704 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: It's like peanut butter and jelly. 705 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 3: I'm like doing in the theater I wish you could 706 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 3: see me. 707 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 6: So yeah, so I just can't wait for you guys 708 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 6: to see what that kind of like collaboration looks like, 709 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 6: because it's just really important one for women of color 710 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 6: to collaborate, you know, Patrecea and I. Although like the 711 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 6: overarching goal is the same to help women live better, 712 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 6: that still we do things in different ways and so 713 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 6: you'll find something differently for me through the Live Richer 714 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 6: Challenge and something different from for Trees. And I just 715 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 6: think that there's not enough brown faces in this space, 716 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 6: and you know, and we and the thing is, we're 717 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 6: really supportive of each other, but we're trying to shift 718 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 6: from just being supportive to being strategic. And just like 719 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 6: even me and Mandy doing the podcast together, this is 720 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 6: a strategic alliance. So it's not just me saying, oh 721 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 6: I like them because I've known Mandy what like two. 722 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: Years before this or something for technically. 723 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 6: That's why we did have a f anniversary and so 724 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 6: but still, you know, so it's like it's one thing 725 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 6: to say, oh I like Mandy to being like, oh, well, 726 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 6: let's do a podcast together, and so, you know, just 727 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 6: learning that in this space of women of color, like 728 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 6: how can we do things and in ways that it's strategic, 729 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 6: so we can, like in just a technical way, move 730 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 6: each other forward. 731 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: So I'm just really excited to partner and do that. 732 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 8: So I am too, And I thank you so much 733 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 8: for your heart, Tiffany, and your willingness to be strategic 734 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 8: in that way and to partner and to be an 735 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 8: example to women in every industry, not just in an 736 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 8: industry where you know, we're you know, few and far between, 737 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 8: but just in every industry as women, you know, we 738 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 8: just have to dispel these myths that women don't like women, 739 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 8: or that women can't work together, that we can't support 740 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 8: each other and figure it out like that's such a crop. 741 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 5: I love women like and I. 742 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 8: Love you know, raw raw ron and cheering you on, 743 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. But we just got to 744 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 8: do better and I'm glad to be an example of 745 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 8: that along with you and you guys have been an 746 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 8: example to me, so I appreciate that as well. 747 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 4: So exciting care So, where can we send people to 748 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 4: find out about these challenges? 749 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: Is there like one website where can we send folks? 750 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 8: Yes, they're going to go to I can Earn More 751 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 8: dot com. 752 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: I can earn More dot com. 753 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 6: Okay, and then if you want to sign up for 754 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 6: the Live Richer Challenge, it's Live Richer Challenge dot com. 755 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 6: And the good thing is is that as you take 756 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 6: the challenge, like in my challenge, I'll be pushing you 757 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 6: toward Patreesa's challenge, and then in her challenge, she'll be 758 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 6: throwing people back. So even if you miss one, you'll 759 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 6: be able to take it like it just will be 760 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 6: a cycle that'll continue throughout the year. 761 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: So let me play the interested listener. Okay, how much 762 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: does it cost? 763 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 8: Oh, it's free, totally complimentary. 764 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: Not in that that's my favorite pres. 765 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, so where can they get your books? So when 766 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 6: it comes out, where can they get your book? Where 767 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 6: can they find it? 768 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 8: Well, I'm so excited to say that you'll be able 769 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 8: to find the book everywhere books are so so go 770 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 8: and target and act a fool if you don't get it. 771 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 5: And I'm kidding no. 772 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 8: But it'll be available on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles. You 773 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 8: can always go to Real Moneyanswers dot com and they'll 774 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 8: be a link there and I'll link you to all 775 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 8: the retailers that I know of. But yeah, it'll be everywhere. 776 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 8: Books are sold January nineteenth. Oh and if you pre 777 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 8: order then I have some amazing freebies. I am giving 778 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 8: away some freebes, more free sum not just the challenge, 779 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 8: but you'll be able to take my Mindset and Money Masterclass, 780 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 8: which is a four part class that teaches you a 781 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 8: lot of the same things. 782 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 5: You know. 783 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 8: You will be so financially fierced by the time twenty 784 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 8: sixteen is over. Like you you don't even understand between 785 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 8: siventy nine and go on to Yahoo and reading Mandy stuff, 786 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 8: you'll be so even I'm getting. 787 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 4: Excited for January. I'm like, on the new year, it's 788 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: just like cold winter time. But now I'm like, maybe 789 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 4: I'll do something. Let me give me a raise. 790 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 6: No, but this is just gonna be awesome. So where 791 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 6: can they find you on social media? 792 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 8: I am everywhere at Seek Wisdom pc W. That's Seek 793 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 8: Wisdom PCW. That's on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and Periscope. 794 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 4: Well, we're going to link to all your pages on 795 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 4: the blog post on Brown Ambition podcast dot com, so 796 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 4: you'll find notes from her interview, links to her website 797 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 4: to where you can find the book, where you can 798 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 4: find her on social Patrese Thank you so much for 799 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 4: coming on Brown Ambition. It's been amazing chatting with you 800 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 4: and it. 801 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 5: Has Thank you guys so much for having me. I 802 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 5: feel so special. You guys feel like a top rated 803 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 5: you know podcast. 804 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're big guy, I'm down there. It's a 805 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: big deal. 806 00:35:54,040 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 5: I'm happy to be a part ex