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Sometimes if you 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: look at the Lakers brand and you think, like the 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: Showtime Lakers, hey, oh, it was all about Magic Johnson, 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: who was not a great defender, but you had Kareem 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: protecting the rim. So all five of those title teams, 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: the Showtime Lakers, all five were top ten defenses. People 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: don't think about that because you had the great backstop 18 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: at the rim in Kareem. And so I'm watching the 19 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: Lakers last night getting gouged defensively by OKC. And this 20 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: is not a criticism, it's instructive. This is why eventually 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: you've got to get rid of the duplication in the 22 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: Lakers lineup. It's so easy for Oklahoma City to score, 23 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: and they were missing two starters. I mean SJ had 24 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: thirty points, didn't even have to play the fourth quarter. 25 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: So JJ Reddick's an offensive leaning coach. Luca. Guys that 26 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: Luca guarded. Last night, Thunder players went eight for ten 27 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: from the floor. Ruey often reeves much better on offense 28 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: than defense. DeAndre Ayton allergic to defense. Gabe Vincent when 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: he plays, gives you effort, but he's small. Who can 30 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: he guard? So the only open lane and all of 31 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: LA is usually at Laker gags, you get Olhway's find 32 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: an open laid in that traffic. And the reality is, 33 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: if you go look at the last five NBA champions, 34 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: only Denver was considered sort of average defensively, but the 35 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: truth is they weren't. And Gordon elite defensively, elite athlete length, 36 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: KCP Bruce Brown, they were eighth in defense. May not 37 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: have been as good as the Celtics or OKAC last year, 38 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: but they were a very very good defensive team. OKC 39 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: is missing two starters last night, What does it matter? 40 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: SGA can get the thirty with his eyes closed, they 41 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: can score in the paint. They had almost fifty points 42 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: in the paint. Why because DeAndre don't like defense. So 43 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: this is not a criticism, it is a reality. It 44 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: is a lineup, a Laker lineup that is heavily offensive leaning, 45 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: massive duplication. Austin reeves. When Lebron gets back Luca, they 46 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: all need the ball in their hands. None of them 47 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: are defenders. Lebron was eight years ago, he's not anymore. 48 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: And again, Luca, if Lucas gardn you, you're getting a bucket. 49 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: Eight of ten last night were OKC players when Lucas 50 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: guarding him. So you have redundancy and duplication. It's like 51 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: a football team that doesn't play defense. Right. You may 52 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: score a lot of points, but in the end, the 53 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: other guys are gonna lead in ball control. You and 54 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: the Lakers just can't get stops and all. If you 55 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: look at the West Minnesota, the Spurs, OKC, they've all 56 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: got elite defensive stoppers or three. And so the Lakers 57 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: Luca may win a scoring title. They'll be fun to watch. 58 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: They've got a bunch of guys on ball skill is exceptional, 59 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean track meet, they can run with anybody. They're 60 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: really good offensively, but it's a lot of the same 61 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: guys and Lebron Siatica James maybe coming back. He's not 62 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: a defensive stopper, not at this point. So again, what 63 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: makes a Super Bowl roster or an NBA Championship roster? 64 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: OKC last year prime example. You can do both. You 65 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: can make stops, you can get buckets, you can do 66 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: mid range, you can get threes. The Lakers have all 67 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: sorts offense. But I've said that in Austin Reeves, that's 68 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: Rob Polenka's guy. They don't want to get rid of 69 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: him and Lebron. Do you want to offend Lebron and 70 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: his and you know and his guys. So I just 71 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: I thought last night the Lakers are great in clutch games, 72 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: but it's not going to be clutch. You're not going 73 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: to be in close games against teams like OKC in Minnesota. 74 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: Never forget what Minnesota did the Lakers last year in 75 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: the postseason. It wasn't just offense. They got stops. You know, 76 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: they forced Austin Reeves go play defense. He can't. It's 77 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: not what he does. It's not a player's fault. It's 78 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: a redundancy of skill set. And JJ Reddick watched the 79 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: beat down, up close and personal. 80 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: When you're not playing well offensively, can it can affect 81 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 4: what you're trying to do defensively? There was there seemed 82 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: to be more confusion I think on the court on 83 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 4: that end of the fourth on the defensive end that 84 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 4: I I think we anticipated. So you know, I gotta 85 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 4: make sure that you know I've created enough clarity for 86 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 4: these guys. 87 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's a clarity issue. I think 88 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: it's a personnel issue and why they should make a 89 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: move or consider it at the trade deadline. Everybody's finally 90 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: coming over to my side on the AJ Brown Philadelphia 91 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: Eagles story. So I never said he was a bad 92 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: guy and I never said he wasn't a great player. 93 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: He's both. He's a bad fit in Philly, and I 94 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: said last year after the Super Bowl trade him, I said, 95 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: at the trade deadline, trade him. They didn't, And now 96 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: he's got all the leverage. What are they going to do? 97 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: Every time you put a mic in front of him? 98 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: He speaking out. Here's AJ Brown's latest DA Tribe on 99 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles offense. 100 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 5: At what point we're gonna pick up boxing as an 101 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 5: offense that we're saying we're so great, you know, And 102 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 5: that's what I'm getting it. It's not about we're not 103 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 5: winning or I don't care about winning. All I care 104 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 5: about is net it's neck. No, it's been week after 105 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 5: week sometimes we're not contributing. We're not doing our job 106 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 5: on offense. So you can't just keep slapping the band 107 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 5: aid over there. And if you spec the win later 108 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 5: late in the year, you think he's gonna go to 109 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 5: it at the end of the year, it's not gonna Yeah, 110 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 5: I'm it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. You 111 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 5: know last year what it was, thank you for the ring. 112 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: But it's a new season. 113 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 6: They adapted. 114 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: We have to adapt. So so now you know he 115 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: knows he's got all the leverage. Right before the trade deadline, 116 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to get shipped off to Jacksonville or 117 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: after the super Bowl. It's like Eagles have a lot 118 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: of time in the front office. I better watch out 119 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: now Philly's trapped. And there's only two things that take 120 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl roster out of Super Bowls. Number One, 121 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: cluster injuries. Your whole offensive line gets hurt like the Chargers, 122 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: or drama and this drama and the Eagles now are 123 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: doing the worst thing you can do. They're forcing the 124 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: ball to him. They're trying to appease him, like that 125 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: last throw down the field against the Packers. They're now 126 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: just trying to appease him. That's the worst thing you 127 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: can do. So the Eagles are averaging twenty four points 128 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: and a measly three hundred yards of offense. In the 129 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: one game Brown didn't play, they scored thirty eight points 130 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: and had four hundred and thirty yards. So this is 131 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: not terribly complicated. And over the last five games. Yesterday 132 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: j Max said, well, well who do you throw to? Well, 133 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: over the last five games, the third leading receiver in 134 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: the NFL is Davonte Smith. I'm not saying Devonte's better 135 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: than AJ Brown, but he's a better fit. So they 136 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: have a number one receiver, they have a great back, 137 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: a good old line, a good quarterback. But it's the 138 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: old you know, PiZZ at a Mexican restaurant. I'm not 139 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: saying the PiZZ is not great, and it's kind of 140 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: weird that it's on the menu. But you can be 141 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: a great player, you can be a great guy, and 142 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: it can just be a weird fit and now that 143 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: you didn't trade him, he has all the leverage. And 144 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is probably the best sports talk radio market in 145 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: the country in terms of driving narratives, driving fan opinion, 146 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: getting people fired. So this is just I mean, this 147 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: is a pennata for the aggressive Philadelphia media to bat around. 148 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: And I like him a lot. I think AJ Brown. 149 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a problem. I think he's a 150 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: great player. But I've said, if you're a Hall of 151 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: Fame player and you already got your money and you've 152 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: already got your ring, AJ Brown now wants production. He's 153 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: an all time talent. He wants all time production. He's 154 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: got the money, he's got the ring, he's got the legacy. 155 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: He wants production. And this is just not a good fit. 156 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: It's also a reminder, and we've said this for years 157 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: in the NBA, if a player wants to be traded, 158 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: get him out of the door. The longer you wait 159 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: the media talks about it, you lose your leverage. Other 160 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: gms know, oh, okay, well they've got to trade him. 161 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: So Howie Roseman has always been ahead of the curve 162 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: and a step ahead, and he sees around corners. But 163 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: now AJ Brown's got the leverage, and you know, yesterday 164 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni said, you know, I'm about done talking about it. Well, 165 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: it's not fabricated. It's not that the Philadelphia media is 166 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: making stuff up. Every time you put a mic in 167 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: front of AJ Brown, he's talking. So it's just it's 168 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: just out of control train here. That's kind of you know, 169 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: gone off the tracks. And there's only a couple of 170 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: things that can blow up a Super Bowl locker room 171 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: and its cluster injuries, and it's drama, and this is 172 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: the latter, clearly. You know, day Mac, I know that 173 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: that that that Laker rant. It's not criticism because it's 174 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: a very good team, but it is a reality on 175 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: what they are and what they're not. And when it's 176 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: that easy missing two starters, it is a reminder, guys, 177 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: we we have an uneven lobsided roster. Is that fair? 178 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fair. 179 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 7: I mean this is the third road game for them 180 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 7: on a long road trip. I know, okayse he was 181 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 7: on a back to back. They're a young squad. This 182 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 7: isn't Laker team, Colin. Three of their top eight guys 183 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 7: last night were brand new to the team. They've been 184 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 7: with him for like you know. 185 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 6: A month. Okay, So I'm not overreacting. 186 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 7: I will say DeAndre Ayton, who's looked good this season, 187 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 7: looked terrible last night. He's an awful matchup for OKC. 188 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 7: He's robotic when he catches the ball on the pick 189 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 7: and roll. He just doesn't flow well. Yeah, but Jackson 190 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 7: Hayes ain't the answer, So listen, okay, see is gonna 191 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 7: be a massive problem for the Lakers in the postseason. 192 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 6: You just hope. Hey, you bet on Luca who. 193 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 7: Took him out two years ago when they were really good, 194 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 7: when he was a Dallas and you bet on the 195 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 7: King the Goat, Lebron. 196 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: Okay, We've got a lot of stuff that's really interesting. 197 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: Rick new Heisl's bashing Notre Dame. What are the Giants 198 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: gonna do with a head coaching spot? Are they gonna 199 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: make the same mistake they've made multiple times? And why 200 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers getting better for the Steelers? 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So Mike 222 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: Kafka is now taking control, and I'm gonna tell you 223 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Players are gonna like him because he's 224 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: not as bombastic as Brian Able. Jackson Dart should play 225 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: well with him. He's a former NFL quarterback, he's young 226 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,239 Speaker 1: and smart, so the media will like him. Andy Reid 227 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: will call on his behalf at the end of the season. 228 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: That'll have influence. And if you look at the New 229 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: York Giants schedule, all looks like those last four games 230 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: are all wable Washington, Minnesota, Las Vegas, Dallas. What if 231 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: they go three and one down the stretch, Well that's 232 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: when Mike Kafka will be named the new head coach 233 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: of the New York Giants. But what's wrong with the 234 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: New York Giants isn't schemes. Their culture is broken. So 235 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: by the way the Jets, you know, their culture is broken. 236 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: So they don't need a scheme guy, Ben McAdoo, Pat 237 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: Shermer scheme guys, Mike Kafka scheme guy. They don't need 238 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: that need. They need a Mike Frable. They need a 239 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, a John Harbaugh. They need a Sean McVay, 240 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: although there's not one of those on the market. They 241 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: need a culture creator, a Dan Campbell. They don't need 242 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: a Mike McDaniel which is a smart guy who's good 243 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: with schemes. Their cultures all messed up. So every every 244 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: time they've gone with scheme guy, smart scheme guy, it 245 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: doesn't work. Who works in New York Joe Tory, Bill Parcells, 246 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, Right, culture guys, that's what we're Rick Patino, 247 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: Saint John's you know, just hey, I'm smart. I can 248 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: call plays that may work in Jacksonville, and New York 249 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: is big and dynamic and loud and restless, and so 250 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Kafka's gonna win games. The schedules week. Jackson dartle play 251 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: pretty well. The player like him, the media will. But 252 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: the giant stars Abdul Carter Scataboo, Jackson Dart neighbors. Their 253 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: stars are young. They're learning on the job. I don't 254 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: want to coach learning on the job with them. If 255 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: I've got a young team, you know, like Green Bay's young, Well, 256 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur has been around a while. It's I think 257 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: it's harder when you have a young team and a 258 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: really young coach. I remember when Sean mcmay took over 259 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: the Rams, that Aaron Donald and they and they went 260 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: and got Andrew Whitworth. They had a young quarterback, but 261 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: he wanted to bring him some veterans. He wanted to 262 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: have leaders and presents on that team. So, and I 263 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: think Mike kaff is a nice guy. He's a smart guy. 264 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: The players will like him. But he's interviewed six times, 265 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: no head coaching job. I made two calls a couple 266 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: of days ago. Everybody said, smart guy, nice guy, knows quarterbacks. 267 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: Not sure if he has a presence, And that's what 268 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, parcels Joe Tory, pat Riley with a Knicks 269 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, Tibbs presence like an identity, been around the block. 270 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: Here's the interim coach. 271 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 8: This is the league of incredibly difficult situations decisions. And 272 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 8: you know, I've just had the utmost respect for Dabs 273 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 8: and what he's done for me, not only as a friend, 274 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 8: but as a coach. You know, give me an opportunity 275 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 8: here to be an offensive coordinator. In terms of where 276 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 8: we're at right now, I'm excited to leave this group. 277 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 8: You know, folksing each day taking kind of this one 278 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 8: step at a time with the players, and the coach 279 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 8: isn't getting organized. But you know, I'm excited and looking 280 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 8: forward to the challenge. 281 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna win some games. Look at that schedule. The 282 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: players gonna like him, the media is gonna like him. 283 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: I just don't think that's what the Giants and their 284 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: broken culture big picture need say it again. Lane Kiffin, 285 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: he knows schemes. It's kind of a culture guy. Change 286 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: is the attitude of a team. Mike McCarthy, he knows schemes, 287 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: but he's built good offensive cultures. J Mack with the news, 288 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: Turn on the news. 289 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News. 290 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 7: Right, Let's start the hour with the Kansas City Chiefs, 291 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 7: everybody's super Bowl team, Colin. They are only five and four, 292 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 7: curtly out of the playoff picture, but they're still really 293 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 7: in the mixes. Everybody knows Casey has won nine straight 294 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 7: division titles. Can they make it a tenth? Patrick Mahomes says, yes, 295 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 7: there's a pathway. 296 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 9: That's always our first goal. It's like the first goal 297 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 9: we have that Cookery puts up has win a division, 298 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 9: and we understand that it's always it's always a challenge, 299 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 9: and you have to go up against some really good 300 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 9: football teams that are scouting you all year long. And 301 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 9: so we've been we've been really good at that over 302 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 9: these last was it seven, eight, nine years? Whatever it is, 303 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 9: And so we got to continue to get better and better. 304 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 9: And we have all a lot of division games in 305 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 9: front of us, and so if we can go out 306 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 9: there and handle the business and do what I think 307 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 9: we can do, we can find a way to win 308 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 9: this division. And so everything is kind of out in 309 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 9: front of us. We just have to go out there with 310 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 9: the right. 311 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: Mand sat So a lot of the chiefs critics have said, 312 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: who have they beaten? So here's my question. If they 313 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: beat Denver in Denver, is that enough to appeal to 314 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: the critics. 315 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 7: That's a great, great question. I don't have an answer, 316 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 7: because you know, sometimes beauty is in the eye of 317 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 7: the beholder. Colin, what if this is a seventeen to 318 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 7: sixteen slugfest in case he wins on a last second 319 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 7: field goal, is that a. 320 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 6: Great win, not covering the spread on the road. I 321 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 6: don't know. I mean, we're talking about a Denver team. 322 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 7: They don't have a lot of great wins, you know. 323 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 7: I know the Philly win, they kind of lucked into 324 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 7: that one down seventeen to three in the fourth. I 325 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 7: look at this schedule, Calum, there's two games this weekend 326 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 7: that are enormous swing games for playoff potential and divisions, 327 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 7: this one and Chargers Jags. I saw some stats that 328 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 7: if the Chargers win that they're ninety percent to make 329 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 7: the playoffs. If they don't, it's like a coin flip. 330 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 7: So this Chiefs team, if they loseed Denver, they ain't 331 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 7: win in the division. 332 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 6: Right, we would agree on that they're not doing. 333 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: Oh, the urgency is absolutely with Kansas City. It is 334 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: a must win for Kansas City because Denver keeps winning 335 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: ugly games. 336 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 7: No question that the problem is Andy reid Off of 337 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 7: by Chiefs awful loss. 338 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 6: I have you talk to a lot of people. 339 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 7: I don't know one person betting on the Denver Broncos 340 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 7: at home. Nobody, And if you look at some of 341 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 7: the ticket counts you can find him online. It's like 342 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 7: eighty eight percent on the Chiefs. Why so are you 343 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 7: are you willing to uh? 344 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: If it was if it was three, I would take 345 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: Kansas City at three and a half. If you remember 346 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: last year, bo Nicks played well twice against Kansas City, Yes, hold. 347 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 7: On, but one of those was Week eighteen. The Chiefs 348 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 7: benched o their guys and he was great. 349 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 6: The other one he was good though. 350 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 7: The other one he was good against bags. Can you 351 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 7: put it in a text to Peyton and ask him 352 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 7: if he has a good place lined up, Like, I 353 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 7: want to see the good plays, not this, you know, 354 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 7: peace shooter offense for three quarters and then all we'll 355 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 7: just come back in the fourth because I don't know, 356 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 7: I think we'll make this game a headlines game tomorrow. 357 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 7: But let's go to the Green Bay Packers is struggling 358 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 7: Green Bay Packers colin two brutal losses. I mean, couldn't 359 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 7: do anything against the Eagles, and they scored thirteen points 360 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 7: against the Carolina Panthers and a bad loss. So yeah, 361 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 7: if you're keeping track at home, that's twenty total points 362 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 7: at home in the last two weeks. Here's Jordan Love 363 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 7: talking about the offensive woes. 364 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: We're right, there's offense, and it just comes down to 365 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: those small details that are I think holding us back. 366 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 3: But you know, we have everything we need on offense. 367 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: We got the right players. Obviously we've got some injuries, 368 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: but we still got the right mindset. We've got to 369 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 3: find ways to focus more, hone in on those little 370 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 3: details and execute. 371 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think they can't run the ball. I 372 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: don't think it's that. It seems to me they want 373 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: to run the ball and they can't, and that's the 374 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: beginning of the end to all their offensive issues. 375 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 7: So you know, in the NFL, basketball, every sport, we 376 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 7: love to do the blame game, right your pie chart 377 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 7: of the blame game for the Green Bay Packers. 378 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 6: You know, I know. 379 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 7: Micah Parsons is angry and you said, choose your words carefully, 380 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 7: but like. 381 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 6: What's the problem here. This was a team two weeks 382 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 6: in that everybody thought they're going to the show. 383 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: They can't run the ball, and so it's become a 384 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: very Jordan Love driven offense without Tucker Craft, without Read 385 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: with multiple injuries. So why can't well, I think they 386 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: I think their offensive line has been disappointing. I think 387 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: that interior line play has been bad. Banks, who they 388 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: paid a fortune for from the Niners, has not been 389 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: good at all. So they had a kind of a 390 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: wonky overpaid for an interior line position. It has not developed. 391 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: You know, the Bears went and bought Joe Tooney and 392 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: Drew Dolman and Jonah Jackson. Their interior o line has 393 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: been excellent. The Packers can't get the old line right. 394 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, when's the last time the Bears had 395 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback, the O line, the pass pro, the run 396 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: game better than Green Bay. So I think a lot 397 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: of it is just O line, lack of a run game, 398 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: and injuries to like craft and read and it's a 399 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: BB gun offense. 400 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 7: Well, it's a good point on the Bears buying those 401 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 7: offensive linemen. Why could they do that because Caleb Williams 402 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 7: is on his rookie contract. Jordan Love got paid in 403 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 7: the escalaid, as they like to say, and once you 404 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 7: pay the quarterback, it becomes a. 405 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 6: Little difficult to spread the money around. 406 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go ahead and say there's a bit of 407 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 7: an overreaction to this Packers. This was an island game 408 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 7: and it didn't look pretty. You know, listen, man, when 409 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 7: the Jets get smashed tonight thirty eight three, and you're 410 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 7: gonna come on here tomorrow ripping the Jets, I get it. 411 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 7: It's an island game. There's nothing else going on. I 412 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 7: think the Packers are gonna be okay, there's gonna sound crazy. 413 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 7: I still think they can get to the super Bowl out. 414 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 6: Of the NFC. So I think there's some Super Bowl 415 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 6: value on the Packers. You agree or not. 416 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: I do not agree. That was quick, dude. 417 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 7: The final story is the Seahawks and your boy Sam Darnold. 418 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 7: I'm surprised he hasn't come on the show. You guys 419 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 7: are so close. I mean, he's having a great year. 420 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 7: This is a perfect time for him to do a 421 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 7: victory lap. PFF grades Donald as the highest rated quarterback 422 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 7: this season. 423 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 6: Somebody at the NFL network. 424 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 7: Said he's a top five quarterback through. 425 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 6: The first ten weeks. I think that's undeniable. 426 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 7: Donald has won twenty one of his last twenty seven games, 427 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 7: going back to Minnesota last year. He's got a tall 428 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 7: order against the Rams defense that I'm seeing some people 429 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 7: start to poke some holes in. Daniel Jones remember carved 430 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 7: these guys up, up and down the field at so 431 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 7: far with the Colts. 432 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 6: And if Adam I Mitchell doesn't. 433 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: Drop a ball, you and I are on opposite sides here. 434 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: I like Seattle in the points. I think Seattle. I 435 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: don't like the Rams corners, and I think Seattle puts 436 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: pressure on your corners. And if you can get good 437 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: pass pro, Donald's a good deep ball thrower. I also 438 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: think Donald moves Stafford doesn't, so you can play around 439 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 1: with a pocket. I think Seattle is a tough matchup 440 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: for the Rams. 441 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 7: I don't disagree. The big question mark is why is 442 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 7: this not a field goal? Why are we The Rams 443 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 7: are supposedly one of the best teams in the league 444 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 7: and they're not even favored by a field goal at home. 445 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 7: Something feels a little fishy to me. So you're probably 446 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 7: on the right side. And I would guess on Sunday 447 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 7: when the game day money comes in, you know, the 448 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 7: big two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bets, they're probably 449 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 7: on Seattle. But I'm gonna rock with Stafford, and I 450 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 7: need to check Devonte Adams is he is he okay? 451 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 6: Is he gonna go with the back? 452 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: Yeah? He had He got hurt without getting hit, So 453 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a problem. You know, if 454 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: Pooka's available, They're using now two and three tight end 455 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: sets Terrence Ferguson, Davis Allen Colby, Parkinson, Higbee. They have 456 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: four tight ends they like, so that's that's not a 457 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: big deal for them. And they've drafted the receiver pretty well. 458 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: They got lower round guys they like, so I don't 459 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: think they can score and move the ball. Kyron Williams there, 460 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of offensive outlets. 461 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 6: So the Seattle defense is nasty. 462 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 7: But Colin Devonte is gonna play it since Yes, yep, 463 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 7: they're saying this Rams three tight end attack. They're so 464 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 7: versatile now, I mean, listen, they could go three tight 465 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 7: ends and then the next play, Hey we got Puka 466 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 7: and Davante. You know the Seattle defense has. This is 467 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 7: going to be a very difficult task. I like this 468 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 7: to be a high scoring game. I don't see either 469 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 7: defense getting stops. 470 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: I think it's the best game of the weekend and 471 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: maybe the best game of the year. I think it's 472 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: going to be so good and it's on Fox. We're 473 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: lucky there. J Mack with the news, Well. 474 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Heard 475 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: Line News. 476 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: I like when analysts come out and have strong opinions. 477 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: Rick Neuheisel, who works at CBS, I watch every weekend 478 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: watching that, you know, some SEC stuff and all of 479 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: you know, their coverage at CBS whatever they have, Big ten, 480 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: whatever they have at CBS. I'm watching them. Rick new 481 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: Heiseel said this. He said he questioned why Notre Dame 482 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: sits at number nine despite losing to Miami and Texas, 483 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: A and M this season and what he called sort 484 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: of a half ACC schedule, which is what it is. 485 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: And he explained that Miami's position behind Notre Dame is 486 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: evidence of the bias. He says, but you know that's 487 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: the power of Notre Dame. It's a monster brand and 488 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: it resonates, and he's not wrong when I look at 489 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. This is why I have said Notre Dame 490 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: wants to play USC so desperately, because when they lose 491 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: an early season game, they have to pray they're getting 492 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: Notre Dame at they're getting USC, or they have no 493 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: quality wins. Go look at Notre Dame schedule right now 494 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: and take USC out of it. You have losses to 495 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: Miami and A and m Your quality win. I took 496 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: USC out of it. Your quality win will be at 497 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh this weekend, and you're favored by double digits. When 498 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: you're in the AC and plan a half AC schedule 499 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: and then you lose to Miami, you desperately need USC. Now, 500 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: look at USC schedule and take out Notre Dame. And 501 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: this is USC that hasn't played Ohio State or Penn 502 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: State or Indiana. You take out the Notre Dames, gitt well, 503 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: they still play Iowa and Oregon, right, and at one 504 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: point Illinois was ranked. So USC doesn't need Notre Dame. 505 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: And all these traditionalists get mad at me when I 506 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: say this. I'm Jen Cohen, I call Notre Dame and 507 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: I say this is not equitable. We don't need another 508 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: late October forty one degree game. We don't need that. 509 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: We will now play every other year. And by the way, 510 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: if we're going to go to South Bend every third year, 511 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: you going to move that game up. We don't care 512 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: about your schedule. We're not even playing Indiana and Ohio State. 513 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: We've just had to play Iowa and Oregon and Michigan. 514 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: And USC schedule Big Ten schedule this year isn't even 515 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: a tough Big Ten schedule at Nebraska. Nebraska never beats 516 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: ranked teams, so it had a little overstated win there. 517 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: But this goes back to what he is saying, basically 518 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: is that when Notre Dame USC comes up. Anybody here 519 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: that's ever been even a small business owner, when you 520 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: have leverage and it's unequitable, you need to get on 521 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: the phone. And I said this a month ago. I 522 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: said I would play every other year if I was 523 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: a USC or if not. Then two out of three 524 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: games are in LA, and we're gonna play them early. 525 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna be in September, so we'll go to in LA. 526 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: Won a Notre Dame. Two in LA won a Notre Dame. 527 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: Because you us he doesn't need it. They don't need it. 528 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: They don't even know the cold weather game late October. 529 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: Notre Dame needs it. Go look at that schedule. Take 530 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: USC out of it. They don't have a quality win. 531 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: Don't have one. Here was Texas Tech head coach Joey Maguire, 532 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: without naming him, taking a shot at Notre Dame. 533 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 10: I have so much respect for e Yu, I do. Man. 534 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 10: I was really excited whenever they joined the Big Twelve 535 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 10: because I think that they carry a lot of weight 536 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 10: and a lot of respect. I think that I have 537 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 10: a lot of respect for them entering a conference and 538 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 10: not playing an independent schedule like other people. 539 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 6: Y'all already know who that is. 540 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like Notre Dame. I am a huge 541 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman van. I work with Notre damers it's a 542 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: great school. But they're not wrong, Like if you're gonna 543 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: I keep saying this, Notre Dame needs to go to 544 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: the Big Ten. They got to go to the Big Ten. 545 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: They academically fit, they geographically fit. There's a reason Notre 546 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: Dame inked a long term deal with Clemson. They need 547 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: somebody on the schedule that can validate them if they 548 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: have losses. Because nobody's gonna go undefeated. I mean this 549 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: point forward. I mean, Ohio State lost two games last 550 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: year blasted, and I mean I lost one as a 551 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: twenty point favorite against Michigan and won the Natty. So 552 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: going undefeated doesn't It's just not going to happen. The 553 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: Georgia's and the Alabamas and the nil world don't have 554 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: the depth. I'm not anti Notre Dame at all, but 555 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm anti anti Notre Dame USC as it currently stands, 556 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: and I think they want they want both worlds, you know. 557 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: They they want to play the big dog to elevate 558 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: their schedule, but they don't want to join a conference 559 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: full time. Not a fan of that. Wait to go 560 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: Rick new Heisel taking shots. 561 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays 562 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a em Pacific. 563 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 7: Sunday on Fox, Caleb Williams and the Bears battle Justin 564 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 7: Jefferson and the Vikings, or Sam Darnold and the Seahawks 565 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 7: take on Matthew Stafford and the Rams for control of 566 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 7: the NFC West or other regional action. Check local listings 567 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 7: for the game in your area only on Fox. 568 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: So Greg Cosell, top of Next Hour. We got big games. 569 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: This is a really good, really really good college and 570 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: NFL weekend. Really good, Greg Coasell, top Next Hour. So 571 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, I've said this before. You don't want to 572 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: justify things in pro sports. You don't want to justify 573 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: draft picks or justified decisions. Just who's hot and who's healthy. 574 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: For the Niners, the hot quarterback is Mac Jones. The 575 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: healthy quarterback is Mac Jones. I would be in no 576 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: rush to bring back Brock per Here's Kyle Shanahan on 577 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: the Mac Purty situation. 578 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 11: It's not a hard decision. It's just more about Brock's health. 579 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 11: And it's been awesome how Max played. He's been great. 580 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 11: But we got a lot of confidence in Brock, and 581 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 11: we know Brock will play at high level too, as 582 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 11: long as he's healthy. Say, that's the world. I mean, 583 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 11: anytime at backup quarterback comes in and plays good, I mean, 584 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 11: that's all anyone. 585 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: Talks about, you know, I don't. 586 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 11: I don't think anyone talks about what people have done 587 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 11: in the past, whether it's Brock or whether it's anybody. 588 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 11: And that's just how the world works, when food media 589 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 11: or anybody. 590 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So here's how good mac Jones has been without 591 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: his number one receiver, Brandon Aiyuk, without his number two 592 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: receiver Ricky Piarsol. Hasn't had them. So let's do a 593 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: little blind resume. All put up mac Jones's numbers and 594 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: three categories, four categories I think are pretty important. He's 595 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: completing seventy percent of his throws. He's averaging two hundred 596 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: and seventy yards, passing second in the league without keep Piersoll, 597 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: without brand and Ayuk, He's got three three hundred yard games, 598 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: tied for first in the league, and his passer rating 599 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: pretty good ninety seven and a half. That's good. That's 600 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: a starter in the NFL. That's a BB plus quarterback. 601 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: So let's put those numbers up. Those are real numbers. 602 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: Multiple three hundred games, two seventy a game, seventy percent 603 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: completion percentage high nineties. Okay, so let's look at this 604 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: first for our radio audience. This first quarterback is close, 605 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: but it's just a tick in all the category. It's 606 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: just a tick less of a quarterback than Mac Jones. 607 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: Who would this be with Justin Herbert? Now Herbert is 608 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: missing both his tackles and he doesn't have Christian McCaffrey. 609 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is slightly better than Justin Herbert. All right, 610 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: let's do it again. Let's go in another one. I 611 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: mean Justin is missing both tackles. This quarterback, I mean 612 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: this is unbelievable. They're almost duplicates. And again no Ricky Pearsol, 613 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: no Brandon I. These guys are duplicate. So who is 614 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: the doppelganger? Who is the duplicate of Mac Jones? Oh, 615 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. The two weeks ago you had had him 616 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: as MVP. He's got Ceedee Lamb. You got George Pickens, 617 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: max doing it without a number one or number two receiver. Alright, 618 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: let's do a little Let's do the next one. Well, 619 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: this one is unbelievable. I mean, Mac is clearly better 620 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: than this guy. Max got more first downs, more three 621 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: hundred yard games, more yards per attempt, more yards per game, 622 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: much more accurate. Who is this stiff? Oh? It was 623 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, who's having a great year. Okay, Baker's having 624 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: a very good year. All right, Well me, you do 625 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: a couple more to prove my point. Let's just let's 626 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: slow another one up there. Here's another quarterback who I mean, 627 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 1: might as well be the exact same numbers. Max a 628 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: little bit more accurate than this quarterback? Who has one 629 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: more start? Who's this guy? Oh? Patrick Malmes okay, who's got, 630 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: by the way, an array of wide receiver and tight 631 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: end talent that I'm not sure anybody else in the 632 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: league has. And Andy Reid. Okay, but hey, let's rush 633 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: back old sore toe brock Purty. Let's go one more. 634 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: There's one more quarterback. Again, the numbers are almost precisely 635 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: the same. The difference is Mac wins this guy. This 636 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: guy's two and six. Who's this guy? Oh, that's Brock 637 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: Party's last eight starts and Mac's last eight starts. Very 638 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: interesting numbers. Okay, Jay Mack, you can go ahead respond 639 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: if you'd like it. 640 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 7: That one I muted myself because I had some choice 641 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 7: expletives that I was muttering. 642 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 6: Does Brock pretty stats are a joke? Colin? 643 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 7: Listen, nothing makes my blood boil more than a blind 644 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 7: quarterback test. 645 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 6: So what are you saying? Let's just put a all 646 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 6: the cards on the table. So you compared it to 647 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 6: Mahomes this season, Herbert this season? 648 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 7: What are you? What's your overarching thesis? Mac Jones is 649 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 7: the starting quarterback. Mac Jones should get a MAXI money deal. 650 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 6: What are we saying here? 651 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is a starting quarterback in this league. If 652 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: you look in with Josh McDaniels, he was a pro bowler. 653 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: If you look at him in San Francisco, we've seen 654 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: We've seen Baker reborn, We've seen Darnald Reborn. We're watching 655 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: the next rebirth, and it's Mac Jones who is clearly 656 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. 657 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 7: So the Niners should keep him in trade Purdy, trade 658 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 7: him for a lot since he's got a ton of value, 659 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 7: and start Purty. 660 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 6: What do you think it's a movie? 661 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: What would I do? Yeah, I'd move Brock Purty all right, 662 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean I I I'm watching Max just floored. 663 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 6: I don't even have a rejoinder at this point. 664 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I okay, by the way, brock Purtty as value, 665 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: but I got that not with. 666 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 6: That new contract. He just signed it last off season. 667 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 7: I mean, he's probably got more contract than are more 668 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 7: appeal to teams than Kyler Murray. 669 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 6: But I don't see a big market for Purty at 670 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 6: this number. 671 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: Man, let me ask you this, Arizona, Arizona, they want 672 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: to start over, they want to move off Kyler Murray. 673 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: Brock Purty is the opposite of Kyler Murray. He's totally dedicated, 674 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: doesn't care about baseball. I'm gonna sit in the pocket. 675 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 7: But Colin, look at the division leaders, Bo Nick's rookie contract, 676 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 7: Daniel Jones cheap contract. You look around the league, the 677 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 7: best teams buy and large, not all of them are 678 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 7: with quarterbacks on a cheap contract. 679 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 6: It's not a super max deal. To steal a phrase. 680 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 7: From the NBA, like, I don't think anybody's gonna want Purty. 681 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 6: And I love Rock Purty. 682 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 7: You know he's my guy. Shanahan loves him. But I 683 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 7: don't see like I think. Don't tell me the Jets 684 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 7: are gonna like bite on Brock Purty. No, No, this 685 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 7: is not an anti rock party. It's Oh, I can 686 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 7: get mac Jones for half the price, That's what it is. 687 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 7: Why do you think Baker and Sam Darnold come at 688 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 7: such value Because when you're reborn, you don't take the 689 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 7: big contract, right like Sam and Baker want an opportunity 690 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 7: to flourish and build up their legacy. 691 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: That's what Mac wants. Mac doesn't want to be known 692 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: as a bust. Mac Jones doesn't want to be known 693 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: as New England Mac with Belichick or Jacksonville Matt. He 694 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: wants to be So you're going to get a discount 695 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: on the deal with mac Jones. 696 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 6: So okay, So could they flip mac Jones to the Raiders. 697 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't think mac Jones with that Oh. 698 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 7: Wait a minute, you don't think mac Jones would fit 699 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 7: in that system? 700 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 6: You mean away from gy Jinhan. 701 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, when mac Jones is proven, when you 702 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: give him an elite offensive coordinator or coach, he's really good. 703 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: He's really good. And we've seen this over and over 704 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL in recent years. When guys get the 705 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: right fit, they're really good. I mean he's the first 706 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: round pick for a reason. This is not anti brock Purty. 707 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: But my take is at this, let me just tell this. 708 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: You know I love Joe Burrow, right yeah, I have said, 709 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: one more injury to Joe Burrow and you have to 710 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: go find another quarterback. And I love Burrow. Okay, let 711 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: me ask you, what if you brought Pretty back in 712 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: two weeks and he had another injury week sixteen, would 713 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: you then acknowledge we have a problem. 714 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 7: I would just say he had a rough season at 715 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 7: that point, I would hope. 716 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 6: I mean, it's not like he's Brital. 717 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So the Saints, Browns, Jetson Raiders all projected top 718 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 1: tenanding to quarterback. If Dante Moore doesn't come out, Mendoza's 719 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: first quarterback off the board, no dispute gonna. I don't 720 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: think these guys, I. 721 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 7: Don't think it does. Let me flip it on you 722 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 7: instead of forget Pretty. I don't think the Niners are 723 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 7: trading him. Shanahan loves him, the GM Lynch loves him. 724 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 7: The Pittsburgh Steelers have an aging Aaron Rodgers. He's going 725 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 7: to be done after this season. They have no path 726 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 7: at quarterback after Rogers. Would you take a chance on 727 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 7: Mac Jones as the next Pittsburgh I was. 728 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: If I was Mac Jones, I wouldn't want Pittsburgh. If 729 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: I was brought pretty, I wouldn't want it. I want 730 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: to I would go to an offensive leaning organization. That's 731 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: what I would do. I look at all these organizations. 732 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: I'd go to Cleveland, like if I was you know, Clevelan. Yeah, 733 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm Kevin Stefanski and I don't get 734 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: Mendoza and Dante Moore stays in college, I'm not reaching. 735 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get Mac Jones for a nickel. That's 736 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: what I'm Kevin Stefanski. So you have two first round picks, 737 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,919 Speaker 1: and my take is with Cleveland is you could draft 738 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback with your second pick. But if you don't 739 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 1: get Mendoza and Dante stays in college, none of these 740 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: guys feel like play a media. Mendoza can play immediately. 741 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 1: Dante I think could play very quickly. 742 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 7: But went twenty fifth and you seem to love him. 743 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 7: So there could be value at the end of the 744 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 7: first round. 745 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, could be. I would take Mac Jones if I 746 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: was Kevin Stefanski's got to start winning games. Either give 747 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: me Mendoza or Mac Jones. I think Mac Jones is 748 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: better than anybody in this draft except Mendoza or if 749 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: Dante Moore came out. 750 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 7: What's so complicated about Jones is this is just eight games, Colling. 751 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 7: I mean, Jacoby Rissettz look pretty damn good here for 752 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 7: at five games. Eight games is a tiny sample size. 753 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 7: With McCaffrey, right, and Shanahan. I mean, if he goes 754 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 7: to Cleveland, what kind of contract do you give him? 755 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 6: Do you give him a Baker Mayfield deal thirty million? 756 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: You give him a reasonable contract? Again, these guys that 757 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: these guys that fail and get beaten up, Darnold Baker, 758 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: they usually give you a much more favorable deal half 759 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: of what it would be for somebody else. 760 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 7: Since you know Shanahan's tight with Kevin O'Connell, is there 761 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 7: any interest in JJ McCarthy continues to struggle. 762 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 6: Let's bring on Mac Jones. 763 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: That is interesting. I'm just telling you what I watched 764 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: with Mac Jones. We got to be fair here. He's 765 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: not a bridge quarterback. He's a franchise quarterback.