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Speaker 1: Edgie Martinez in Real Life podcast. This episode and conversation

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Speaker 1: is powered by IDU. Say hello, guys, welcome to another

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Speaker 1: takeaway episode Edge Martinez IRL. I'm so sorry these have

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Speaker 1: been so backed up, but life has been lifing.

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Speaker 2: Real life has been real lifing out here. But here

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Speaker 2: we are.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna today We're gonna talk about this Kim

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Speaker 1: Kardashian episode, which obviously there's so many opinions about it.

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Speaker 1: It's either like, people love Kim, people don't love Kim.

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Speaker 1: People are passionate about however they feel about Kim and

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Speaker 1: I first of all, First of all, she was lovely

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Speaker 1: to us. She opened up her office on a Sunday

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Speaker 1: after she had been already kind of worked. Oh I

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Speaker 1: think she took the kids to like Disney or something,

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Speaker 1: and then after came to do the podcast at her office,

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Speaker 1: had her whole staff there to cater to us.

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Speaker 2: Now, I let's see her. By the way, who has

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Speaker 2: opinions about Kim Kardashian, We're gonna get to them because

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Speaker 2: what I learned after the episode dropped not the only one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you'll speak to a certain population of the

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Speaker 1: audience with some of your opinions about Kim also actually

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Speaker 1: see I Do Young. Queen Brittany's here, our show producer,

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Speaker 1: and we are talking about some of the takeaways of

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Speaker 1: the episode. So I just want to get to mine

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Speaker 1: first before I get to the conversation. Number one, Kim's

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Speaker 1: co parent parenting journey kind of cracked this interview open,

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Speaker 1: like right from the beginning, clearly she has was I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it was the day that week, there

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Speaker 2: They were in the news a lot that week.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's quieted down now since then, but to

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Speaker 1: take us back to that week, it was a very

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Speaker 1: noisy Kanye was on socials, and so when we started

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Speaker 1: talking about co parenting, this this moment happened.

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Speaker 2: Let's just play it.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get emotional.

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Speaker 1: No, it's just been a day for me, but it's

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Speaker 1: been a time.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's hard. Shit is like co parenting.

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Speaker 4: It's really fun looking hard, you know, and.

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Speaker 2: Like and you're not co parent thing with the with

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Speaker 4: Yeah, with the quietest I had the best dad, and

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Speaker 4: I had the best memories and the greatest experience. And

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Speaker 4: that's all I want for my kids as long as

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Speaker 4: they can have that. That's what I would want for them,

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Speaker 4: you know. So like if they don't know things that

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Speaker 4: are being said or what's happening in the world, Like,

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Speaker 4: why would I ever bring that energy to them? You know,

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Speaker 4: that's like really heavy, heavy, grown up shit that they're

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Speaker 4: they are, we'll have those conversations, but like and I'll

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Speaker 4: be so prepared. But until then, I'll do anything to

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Speaker 4: like keep their life as normal as possible.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've felt her here. You're not a mom yet, Nily, you.

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Speaker 5: Don't know I'm I felt her here because if you've

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Speaker 5: what you love most in your whole life is your children,

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Speaker 5: it is hard.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're a billionaire or if you

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Speaker 1: when she just opened up that way, I felt her.

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Speaker 1: That's a different and so publicly and everything they do

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Speaker 1: For the interview, that moment to me was more. It

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Speaker 6: Especially I didn't know that they just went the Disney

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Speaker 1: She talks about like wanting to protect her kids because

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Speaker 1: That was interesting for me to hear, and then her purpose.

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Speaker 3: I hope that I can open up a firm that

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Speaker 3: hires formally incarcerated people. I think they know the laws

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Speaker 3: also don't cancel people. Everyone cancels everybody, but everyone cancels

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Speaker 3: these people that like make a bad choice, a horrible choice,

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Speaker 3: a really crazy choice sometimes. But then I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I think that redemption for I think anybody is like.

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Speaker 1: I believe in redemption absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's dope. That is say what you

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Speaker 1: That to me is dope. The criminal justice system in

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Speaker 1: this feedback I wasn't used to. It's very noisy because

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Speaker 1: people have a lot of opinions. Even you, Nila, when

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Speaker 1: I told you about we were gonna interview Kim, what

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Speaker 8: I was a little nervous, but you said why.

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Speaker 2: You said why? But did she say why?

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Speaker 8: Yes, she did.

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Speaker 6: I don't hate Kim Kardashian or anything like that, but

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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, you know, she always is trying

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, they are down things. It's like, why

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Speaker 6: am I making a big deal about these things?

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Speaker 2: No, No, not to say you're listen.

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Speaker 1: If you have criticism of anybody, it's not to discredit

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Speaker 2: But to me, I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like even people that you might criticize or judge

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Speaker 1: planet is worth a conversation. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: even people that we have canceled. I'm not gonna start

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Speaker 8: I know what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Talking about the worst creatures on the world, right, even

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Speaker 1: the worst ones. Sometimes I want to know why, how

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Speaker 2: What did you? What did you? Who did it to you?

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Speaker 8: You know who I would like to see that.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I feel like I could fall under this boat

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Speaker 6: for you is R Kelly.

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Speaker 6: And I only say R Kelly because after watching one

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Speaker 6: I feel like it's something that needs to be talked about.

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Speaker 2: So here's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so then they're like, I saw.

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Speaker 1: Andrew's podcast, and then all of a sudden, everybody's gonna

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Speaker 1: But I even but but also I still think there's learning,

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Speaker 2: And I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Putting Kim Kardashian in the realm of the worst people

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Speaker 1: Gotta be challenging and and yeah, like I don't know.

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Speaker 1: To me, I just think everybody there's something to learn

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Speaker 1: If there's somebody that comes comes along that you don't

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Speaker 2: To me, that's that's the goal, right.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, some of the some of the criticism and

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Speaker 1: the reaction to this episode was definitely harsh, But I really.

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Speaker 8: Think is bots because in real life.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I have not, definitely.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you some of these comments are Kim

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Speaker 1: box this, Kim army bots.

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Speaker 1: for another Edge Martinez IRL Takeaway.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys,