1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Can't I am six forty you're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We carried the press 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: conference earlier in the show. Nathan Hockman, the La County 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: DA announced that Nick Reiner is going to be charged 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: with two counts a first degree murder for stabbing his parents, 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: Rob and Michelle to death. And we are now going 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: to talk with Royal Oaks ABC News legal analysts about 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: the details of these charges and Royal first thing that 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: jumped out is that he didn't rule out the death penalty. 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: He said the charge can bring life in prison without 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: parole or the death penalty to be decided later. And 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: somebody just texted me there is no death penalty in California. Well, 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: there still is one on the books. 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: Right exactly. It's all about Governor Gavin Newsom thinking that 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: the death penalty is a bad idea. He's basically dismantled 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 2: Zan Flenton and death row and so on. But technically, 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: as you say, it's on the books, the governor has 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: the ability, through his powers his orders to block things. 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: But that doesn't stop a DA like Nathan Hockman, who 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: believes in the death penalty from saying, at least it's 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: the possibility because one of the special circumstances in is 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: multiple murders could get you the death penalty. And of 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: course here there are two alleged murders by Nick Reiner. 24 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: So describe. People often get confused about the degrees of murder, 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: the main difference between first degree second degree murder, and 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: why what Nick Reiner did would be classified his first degree. 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So first degree murders where you intend to kill 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: and you premeditated, it doesn't that have to be for 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: a long time. Very briefly, that's murder one. Murder two 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: is where you did not intend to kill, but you 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: were so reckless you knew somebody probably would die. He 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: didn't really care, but you didn't intend it. That's murder two. 33 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: So that'd be either twenty five to life or fifteen 34 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: to life. Down here, John's where it gets interesting. Manslaughter, 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: either voluntary or involuntary, would only put him in prison 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: for a small number of years, as few as three 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: years if a manslaughter conviction occurs. Now, how could that be, Well, 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 2: we have something called voluntary intoxication in the law, which 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: says if you take drugs or alcohol or something that 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: totally impairs you. So you killed somebody and you kind 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: of intended to do it, but you didn't really have 42 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: the legal capacity to form a specific intent because you 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: were so whacked out. That would get you down to manslaughters. 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: So bottom line, John, if this goes forward as a trial, 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: and of course there could be a plea deal at 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: any point, we don't know the strength of the evidence, 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: but if he goes forward as a trial, his metal 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: state is going to be a huge issue. And we 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: know from reports that probably a big chunk of Hollywood 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: was a conor Lebran's holiday party Saturday night who observed 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: the confrontation between Nick and Rob. They would all be 52 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: called as witnesses to testify as to whether he's seeing 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: like he was a sound mind, was he insane? Was 54 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: he raving? So this could get real interesting in terms 55 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: of delving into his psyche. 56 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: Well, every report I've read about his behavior at the 57 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: party is he was acting really weird. Let's call it that. 58 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: You know, he was running up to famous people and 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: others saying are you famous? Are you famous? Like really 60 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: obnoxious and strange. And Bill Hayter the comedians telling a 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: story that Nick ran up to him while he was 62 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: talking to somebody, and hater said, excuse me, this is 63 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: a private conversation, and he just glared. Nick Reiner glared 64 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: at him, just stared for a long time, and then 65 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: he stormed off. Now that would indicate either he was 66 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: having a mental episode or he was on some bizarre 67 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: drug or both. 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, and that stuff you're saying, I had 69 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: not heard that for that is huge because that goes 70 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: right to the heart of the mental statistician. Now, there's 71 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: no such thing as temporary insane anymore. You're either knew 72 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: right from wrong at the time you did it, or 73 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: you didn't know right from wrong. But this kind of 74 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: information could absolutely support Alan Jackson, you know, the former 75 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: DA who prosecuted Phil Specter back in the day. And 76 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: he's represented Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey and Karen Reid, 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: the lady who got off for allegedly killing her boyfriend 78 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts this year. Alan Jackson is obviously going to 79 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: really focus on the fact that he was acting irrationally. 80 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 2: He just wasn't himself. Who knows what kind of drugs ralcohol, 81 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: he said. And since age fifteen, he's now thirty two, 82 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: he's been on the street part of the time. He said, 83 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: mental health issues, drug issues. So this is all of 84 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: this weirdness is Taylor made to help his defense. 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: Fifteen years or more of serious drug addiction that could 86 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: damage your brain. I mean, it's a terrible side absolutely, 87 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: where the mental illness leads to the drugs to try 88 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: to quiet the demons, or the drugs can lead to 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: the mental illness, and you know, you can be like 90 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: complete nuts after a while. That's what's out on the 91 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: streets every day. We're always dodging. 92 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: Yep. And I think the words that Nathan Hochman used 93 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: during his press conference that you carried, some of them 94 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: were really interesting. For example, he referred to this guy 95 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: as this murderer a lot of times. Das say, well, 96 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: these are just elevations. You know, we're presumed innocent. None 97 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: of that presumed innisis stuff. He called him this murderer. 98 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: And then Nathan Hochman made it very clear, well, yes 99 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 2: he's not in court today because he has to be 100 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 2: medically cleared before he moves from jail to court. But 101 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: everybody has to be medically cleared, you know, as he's psychotic, 102 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: as he's suicidal, is he having a seizures some other issues. 103 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: So Hawkman is trying to send a message right off 104 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: the bat to nip it in the butt. We didn't 105 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: miss court today because he's a nutcase. Therefore we would never, 106 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: of course execute him or find him guilty of murdered one. No, 107 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: we're just doing it because it's routine. But I mean, John, 108 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: this is here we go again. I mean Brentwood not 109 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: only was the site of the OJ murders, I mean 110 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe suicide was in Brentwood. You have another big 111 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: double murder with men and the O. J. Simpson and 112 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: the star power here. I mean the ment Does family 113 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: wasn't famous before, but certainly Rob Reiner was, and so 114 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: this could be a huge case. It's going to be fascinating, 115 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: John to see whether the judge who handles the preliminary 116 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: hearing in a few weeks and then maybe a trial 117 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: says yes to cameras, because this could be a huge 118 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: test if the O. J. Simpson camera hangover, where a 119 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: lot of judges in the last several decades is said 120 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: forget about it. Yeah, didn't work well for OJ. So 121 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: we're not doing it here now. 122 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: And now you know OJ's team was famous for coming 123 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: up with alternate theories and charges of racism and planted evidence. 124 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: What alternatives does Alan Jackson have here other than other 125 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: than you know, he's he's mentally ill or whacked out 126 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: on drugs. I mean, it's got to be something down 127 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: that path. I don't think there's any real question that 128 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: he did it. 129 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: So we don't know. I mean, for all we know, 130 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: you know, he's got an ironclad alibi. We do now 131 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: know from the last few minutes that he was apprehended 132 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: by police. Somebody spotted him at a metro station in 133 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: Exposition Park near usc six hours after the bodies were found, 134 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: So we know that's how it happened, But we have 135 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: no idea what the true facts are. We know that 136 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: it's alleged a knife was used. Now let's assume for 137 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: the moment that the DA does have a strong case 138 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: that he did it. We don't know, but let's assume 139 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: for hypothetical purposes in that sense. In that way, you're right. 140 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: I think the whole ballgame is going to be dueling experts. 141 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: The defense will have an expert saying he was literally 142 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: out of his mind when he did this. He was 143 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: flying high on some kind of drugs. You know, he 144 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: thought he was killing a broadosaurus, you know, like somebody 145 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: on LSD, that is a possible defense, or even if 146 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: that seems far offence, just the idea that you were 147 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: zeroing in on. He was so troubled for the last 148 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: fifteen to seventeen years on the streets, off and on. 149 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: I mean, when his dad is Rob Reiner, I mean, 150 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: this is not a normal psyche and so that has 151 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: to be the essence of it that gets it away 152 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: from murder one or into manslaughter territory really very few 153 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: years behind. 154 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: So he's got a fifteen plus year battle with his 155 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: dad over the drugs he's taken, and then supposedly we're 156 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: fighting about rehab that night. See I don't know what's true, right, 157 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: you can't trust in all the reports. But let's just 158 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: say for this conversation, Rob Reiner's trying to get Nick 159 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: to go back into rehab for the nineteenth time, and 160 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: Nick's not having anything of it. And the drugs that 161 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: he's on diminishes his capacity in a way that he 162 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: can kill Rob and kill his mother and still not 163 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: face a full murder charge. 164 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, California, you should be called diminished capacity. Now, 165 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: California law focuses on voluntary intoxication, So even if you 166 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: voluntarily take drugs, take alcohol, then do something terrible that 167 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 2: can really use your charge from murder absolutely to manslaughter. 168 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: The theory being for a murder charge you have to 169 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: prove a specific intent to kill or an awareness that 170 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: what you're doing might well kill somebody but you don't 171 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: really care. So that's murder one and two. You kick 172 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 2: it down to voluntary manslaughter when you have either a 173 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: heat of passion or this situation where basically it's the 174 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: drugs that caused you to do this. You mentally didn't 175 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: have the ability to form a good, normal, cogent specific intent. 176 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to kill my parents, and so yeah, I 177 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: mean the fights that he has had over the years, 178 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: they'll all come into play. 179 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: That's funny, you know. I Mean, I just remember since 180 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: I was a kid that people used to say, like, 181 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: being drunk is no excuse legally, that if you do 182 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: stupid stuff or you kill somebody, and you try to say, well, judge, 183 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: I was drunk, It's I get out of here. It's 184 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: not an excuse. And I just assumed that applied to 185 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: drugs as well. But that's not the case here in California. 186 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 2: Huh right. What it means is it can't get you off. 187 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: It can't result in they're not guilty, but it can 188 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: kick it down from murder to manslaughter, which would make 189 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: a huge difference obviously in terms of the timing. But 190 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: I mean, this is just amazing. People have reported on 191 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: the Hollywood connection, as if we needed it anymore. The 192 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: murder house where Rob and Michelle lived it used to 193 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: be owned by Henry Fonda, is that right? It used 194 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: to be owned by Norman Lear. And if you're an 195 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: old movie buff, the Casa Blanca, the guy that played 196 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: Victor Loslow, Paul Henry, he lived there as well, So 197 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: you couldn't have any more solid Hollywood connections with us. 198 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: The result is this is obviously going to stay on 199 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: people's radar screen. 200 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: There aren't too many people who could buy a house 201 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: that big and that expensive, and if you're living on 202 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: the West side of La that narrows it down to 203 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: Hollywood people and a few others. 204 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: He paid five million bucks to Norman Lear about twenty 205 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: years ago. 206 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, thank you very much for coming on, 207 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: and I imagine we'll be talking a lot about this 208 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: case over the next year. 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Now, the Department of Health and Human 219 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: Services is doing its own investigation to all that fraud 220 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: in Minnesota involving the Somali immigrants who built taxpayers out 221 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: of a billion dollars in phony claims, and according to 222 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: The New York Post, they have ab ten letters and 223 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna investigate whether these tax dollars that 224 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: were sent to Minnesota social service programs were used to 225 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: fuel illegal mass migration. Alex Adams is an assistant Secretary 226 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: of Health and Human Services, one of their departments, and 227 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: they sent a letter to Governor Tim Waltz and the 228 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: Minneapolis Mayor, Jacob Fry at a nonprofit, a nonprofit that 229 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: got hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal grants, this 230 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: one to provide head start programs. You know, that's education 231 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: for very young children. And Adams says that we're concerned 232 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: it might have been used to fuel illegal mass migration 233 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: and they're trying to track the money. Good luck with that. 234 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: You might as well just book a one way flight 235 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: to Somalia because you're going to spend the rest of 236 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: your life there trying to track the money. Listen to this. 237 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, illegal aliens lived in Minnesota for twenty nineteen. 238 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: Four years later it was one hundred and thirty thousand. 239 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: Went from forty to one hundred thirty thousand in four years, 240 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: ninety thousand illegal aliens in Minnesota. It became two percent 241 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: of the state's population and I think a lot higher 242 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: percentage of the Social service money. And Adams says, there's 243 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: public statements from hundreds of Minnesota Department of Human Services 244 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: workers state employees saying that clear warnings of fraud were disregarded, 245 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: the whistleblowers were faced retaliation, and the misuse of federal 246 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: funds may have persisted for years. They sent that to 247 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: Tim Walls and they said, under your leadership, can you 248 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: imagine this? And Waltz knew it was going on, so 249 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: did everybody else in the new administration. They were not 250 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: going to deny the Somali immigrants this money, even though 251 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: nobody was entitled to it, and they didn't want to 252 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: risk not getting their vote in the next election cycle. 253 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: This is really really absurd. Treasury departments investigating, the House 254 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: Oversight Committee is investigating, and it's at least a billion 255 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: dollars and maybe more. Now they've convicted dozens of these 256 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: fraudsters to account for about two hundred and fifty million dollars, 257 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: but that's only a quarter of the known fraud and 258 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: like I said, they think it could be many billions more. 259 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: Listen to all these Listen to all these programs. Hate 260 00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: that word parents in community action? Does that me community services? 261 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: Block grant, Social services block grant, title for e foster care, 262 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: Refugee cast Assistant, refugee cash assistance, refugee medical assistance, the 263 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, the Childcare and Development Fund. 264 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: Each one of these was a sesspool for people stealing money, 265 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: some of it stolen by legal Somali migrants, some of 266 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: it funneled to illegal Somali migrants. The parents in Community 267 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: Action and this childcare development fund, those that was the 268 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: conduit to the head start programs. And they are looking 269 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: for names, addresses, social security numbers, data birth and on 270 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: and on and on, and they're gonna they're gonna do 271 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: a massive investigation. That I mean, Tim Wattz ought to 272 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: be ought to be deported out of the state and 273 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: out of the country. Any politician that facilitated billions of 274 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: dollars of taxpayer waste for legal aliens because he was 275 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: trying to get the legal migrants votes, that's not criminal. 276 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: How's that not criminal? 277 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: H it? 278 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously laws were broken here by the fraudsters, 279 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: But how about the other end when the people allowing 280 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: the fraud to happen looked the other way and enabled 281 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: facilitated what was going on, especially the political leaders who 282 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: were who were doing it for for for their own votes. 283 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: That's not a crime. There's got to be there's got 284 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: to be a felony somewhere in there. You would think, 285 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: all right, uh, we got Mark Garragas coming up after 286 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: three o'clock. He has a client, a Pacific Palisades owner 287 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: that they have filed a separate lawsuit against the City 288 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles and the d w P N LA 289 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: County and Karen Bass for all the failures in the fire. 290 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: So Garrigos is in on the action too, and we 291 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: will talk to him coming up when we return. There 292 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: are there's new unemployment numbers out. You may have heard. 293 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of numbers out which show that the 294 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: California job market is absolutely the worst in the country. 295 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: Our tax situation, of course is the highest in the country, 296 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: but they're way shorter revenue there. There's there's there's a 297 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: collapse coming in the California state government, a financial collapse. 298 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you things when you 299 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: look at this, there's all points to government policies. All 300 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: of this is Gavin Newsom. We have the worst unemployment 301 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: rate in the country, tell you about it. We come back. 302 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am 303 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: six forty. 304 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: We're on every day from one until four o'clock, and 305 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: we've got the Moistline on Friday at three twenty and 306 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: three point fifty, you call the Moistline and unleash all 307 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: your anger and fury and frustration eight seven seven Moist 308 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: eighty six eight seven seven Moist eighty six, or usually 309 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. I am just calculating 310 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: up here, as I like to do at least every 311 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: every few days. Just how many states have gas? That's amazing? 312 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: How many states have cheap gas? 313 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: Do you know? 314 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: The national average for gas prices is now two dollars 315 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: and ninety cents to ninety is the average. The lowest 316 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: price is Oklahoma at two dollars and thirty cents two 317 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: thirty and I paid what did I pay? I paid 318 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: four thirty nine or maybe four forty nine this week. 319 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: California is at average of four thirty five a gallon 320 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: four point thirty five, Oklahoma two thirty and the average 321 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: is two ninety. That's just uh. I say this every 322 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: day now. Other states, even a high tax state like 323 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: New York, it's only three oh nine. Yeah, if you 324 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: look at it at similar states politically, New Jersey two 325 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: ninety one, Illinois three oh three. They look at Florida, 326 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: it's at two eighty eight. So whether it's a a 327 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: state with California like politics or a state with California 328 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: like size or close to it. Uh, let's go, Where's Texas. 329 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: Texas is two fifty one, two fifty one and we're 330 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: paying four to thirty fives. And this is really taking 331 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: a toll on the economy. And Katie Grimes at the 332 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: California Globe published a long story today counting all the 333 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: different ways that the state is failing. Now, we have 334 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: by by far, the worst gas prices in the continental 335 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: United States. I just can't I can't get over the 336 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: people in Oklahoma are pulling up and that's the average. 337 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: Oh. 338 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: I had to check those Denver pumps because Denver there 339 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: were at least ten gas stations in Denver that we're 340 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: selling last week between a dollar sixty nine and dollars 341 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: seventy seven in the Denver metro area. All right, which is, 342 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, helped crush this economy in California and these 343 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: these are gaving you some decisions. There's nobody else to 344 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: blame here. California is unemployment rate five point six percent, 345 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: highest unemployment rate among all states five point six, Florida 346 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: three point nine. Now I know there's a lot of 347 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: people in California. Maybe you know twenty million people in 348 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: California who would have a stroke if you suggested that 349 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: maybe it would be better to have Ron DeSantis running 350 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: things than Gavin Newsom. 351 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: Oh loo, could you stand? 352 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: That's horrid? 353 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: Boy? 354 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Well, I got I got an unemployment rate in Florida 355 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: thirty nine and a California unemployment rate of five six. 356 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: If you're looking for a job or you're looking to 357 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: make some money, where would you rather live? 358 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 359 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: I just can't believe you'd say that. Road said, Well, 360 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the gas prices and California is at 361 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: four thirty five a gallon and Florida is at two 362 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: eighty eight. I don't know. Maybe Florida is run better, 363 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: more efficiently, more intelligently. Because you live in Florida, you 364 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: got a lot more money in your pocket, and you're 365 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: probably doing a lot better on the job. There are 366 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: more jobs, which means higher wages. Other places that people 367 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: flee California to Texas, their unemployment rate is four to one. 368 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: By the way, the national average is four to four, 369 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: So we are thirty percent higher than the national average 370 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: at unemployment. But Texas is below the national average at 371 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: a four to one. Florida is at a three to nine. 372 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people moved out to Tennessee. That's a 373 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: three six. Georgia, UH is a three four. And there's 374 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: a lot of hard working behind the scenes Hollywood people 375 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: that have moved to Georgia because there's so much production there. 376 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: So do you want to go to state with an 377 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: unemployment rate at three to four Tennessee three six, Florida nine, 378 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: Texas War one. Even New York State is at a 379 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: four to two, below the national average, and then California 380 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: a whopper five point six. And then the gas prices, 381 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: same set of states that I just gave you. Florida 382 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: is at two eighty eight, Georgia is at two seventy four. 383 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: What else I got here? Jersey's at two ninety one. Massachusetts, 384 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: I mean their nickname is Taxachusetts and they're only at 385 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: two ninety nine. New York is three h three. I mean, 386 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: it's it's just Tennessee is a two fifty five. You know, 387 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: people are leaving California for Tennessee. These are really mild 388 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: climates North Carolina, really mild climates and governments that leave 389 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: you alone. I don't know why people. I mean, I 390 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: got something I've been stewing over. You know, first of 391 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: the year, they're going to be banning plastic bags again, 392 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: this time all plastic bags and grocery stores because the 393 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: last plastic bag ban from ten years ago didn't work. Like, 394 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: who needs this? Every time I use a paperbag in 395 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: a grocery store, it tears and everything drops to the ground, 396 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: either falls out the bottom or the handles come off 397 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: every freaking time. Here's more from Katie Grimes's column, and 398 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: you know ought to look it up. It's californiaglobe dot 399 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: com californiaglobe dot com. She's quoting the Legislative Analyst Office. 400 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: This is at of Sacramento. It's a non parties in 401 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: office there. The legislature is looking at an eighteen billion 402 00:24:52,960 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: dollar budget deficit in the coming year, eighteen billion, even 403 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: though revenue is improving. But whatever revenue increase they're enjoying 404 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of people have been cashing 405 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: in their tech stocks, and the stock the tech stock 406 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: market absolutely erupted into outer space in the past year 407 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: or two, so people are cashing in some of the winnings. 408 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: They're paying the they're paying the tax capital gains tax, 409 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: and so we have billions of extra dollars tax dollars 410 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: and still an eighteen billion dollar deficit. Is then that 411 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: means bad, bad, bad management by the part of GAVENUSOM 412 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: What else would it be like? I am open to 413 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: other theories. I'm open to blaming other people. But if 414 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: your if your gas is going for the four thirty 415 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: five and uh Florida is going for what did I 416 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: say two eighty eight? Tell me where do you want 417 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: to live? Where do you want to be pumping gas? 418 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: Everybody hates the cost of living in California. Everybody it's 419 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: the worst highest cost of living in the country. I'm 420 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: only asking questions here. You know, if you want to 421 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: get a new job, where would you rather be where 422 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: the unemployment is five to six or three six. Joe 423 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: Cockin is quoted in Katie Grime's story, who is one 424 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: of my favorite writers, And he analyzes all this, analyzes 425 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: all the demographics, and he says, affluent young professionals are 426 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: migrating out of California. In twenty twenty two, California lost 427 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: more than two hundred thousand net migrants twenty five and 428 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: older all right twenty five and older net loss two 429 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: hundred thousand. Moving from Califournia to other states, most of 430 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: them had either four year or associate degrees. Now they 431 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: moved to places like Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas. 432 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: In fact, those numbers surged in those states surged. H 433 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: I told you what the what the unemployment rates were 434 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: in some of those places, like North Carolina's unemployment race 435 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: three to seven. Just as an example, California's unemployment rate 436 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: five six, the highest among the fifty states. Unemployed workers 437 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: up six straight months, according to the Sacramento Bak six 438 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: months in a row. And by the way, you know 439 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: might come back. I'll tell you what it is. County 440 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: by county in this area. We have some of the 441 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: worst counties. Central Valley is the absolute worst. You're not 442 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: gonna believe those those unemployment numbers. We'll tell you about it. 443 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: Coming up. 444 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty. 445 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: We're on every day from one until four o'clock and 446 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: we've got Mark Geragos coming up after three o'clock and 447 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: Brigitta's News. Mark has got a new client a Pacific 448 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: Palisades homeowner who's filing a fire lawsuit against the city 449 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: of the county, the DWP and Karen Bass and Mark 450 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: Gargos in on the action. He's got a client that's suing, 451 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: so we'll get his his analysis of that disaster. I 452 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: was telling you about this dreadful California economy. It is 453 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: the worst in the nation, and largely because of Gavin 454 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: Newsom's policy, because we've got I told you gas prices 455 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: here or four thirty five a gallon, and in the 456 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: rest of the state, rather the rest of the country, 457 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: it's averaging two ninety. It's as low as two thirty 458 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. Also, we have the highest unemployment rate. It's 459 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: at six point four percent, and I'm sorry, it's at 460 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: five point six percent, and that's thirty percent higher than 461 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: the rest of the country's average five point six percent. 462 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: But if you go county by county, Los Angeles is 463 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: five point nine, San Bordino is five seven, Riverside is 464 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: six point one. Imperial County, which is down by the 465 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: Mexican border, unemployment rate is twenty one and a half percent. 466 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: You don't see Newsom down there very often, do you. 467 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: So La is at five nine venturists five to one. 468 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: All these numbers are higher than every other state in 469 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: the country. All these individual southern California counties, you go 470 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: slightly north, go towards the Central Valley. Kerrent County is 471 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: at an is that right? Eight point one? Prince very 472 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: small on my screen, to Laurie County, which is two 473 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: counties over from LA nine point eight percent. Yikes, Fresno 474 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: County is seven and a half percent. There are fifty 475 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: eight counties in the state, and there's only three counties 476 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: below the national average and unemployment, and they're in the 477 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: Bay Area. San Francisco at a four to two, San 478 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: Mateo at a four to zero. And what's the third one, Oh, 479 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: NAPA is at a four to one. That's it counties 480 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: in California that are below the national average and unemployment 481 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: three San Francisco, San Mateo, Napa, all the wealthy tech people. 482 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: Orange County is that the national That is that four 483 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: point four, which is the national average. Everything else, everything 484 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: else is bad news, and everything else is bad news 485 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: for gas prices. But in this alternate reality world we 486 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: live in, he runs around bragging and beating his chest, 487 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: babbling about affordability and running for president. And what's even 488 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: more surreal is there was a story in Axios that 489 00:31:54,720 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: Kyla Harris wants to run for president again, which would 490 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: be wildly entertaining. If these two failures, these two empty 491 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: headed buffoons, they're going to be fighting for the same constituency. 492 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what that constituency is, people who like 493 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: high gas prices and high unemployment. Like, how does that poll? 494 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: I'd love to see a generic pole. Would you want 495 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: to would you want a president who's led their state 496 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: to the highest unemployment rate, in the highest gas rate, 497 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: the highest gas price? What percentage supports those ideas? And 498 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: then they're gonna split that constituency in half if they 499 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: both run. You imagine two left wing failures from California 500 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: leading candidates for president. You'll see they're the top two 501 00:32:54,040 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: in the polls. We come back Mark Garragus and he's 502 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: representing a Pacific Palisades homeowner who's suing everybody you should 503 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: be suing if you lost your house in the Palisades fire. 504 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Mark Garrett is coming up next, 505 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: Virginia Diegostina live in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, 506 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You 507 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: can always hear the show live on KFI Am six 508 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 509 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.