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Speaker 1: Man, totally disconnected. Yes, we're not even really here. You

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Speaker 2: Well, we are not. We're here in spirit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're on vacation.

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Speaker 4: moments the Breakfast Club has had in the last couple

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Speaker 4: of months. So sit back, relax, enjoy, and have fun.

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Speaker 5: Red is gonna be running the boards.

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Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: A mood days is.

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Speaker 5: If your time to get it off your chest, way.

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Speaker 3: Up, whether you're.

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Speaker 2: Man or black, time to get up and get some

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Speaker 2: call up now. Eight hundred and five eighty five one

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Speaker 2: O five one. We want to hear from you on

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Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. Hey, Nadine, good morning, get it off

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Speaker 2: your chest. Where you calling him from?

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Speaker 5: First?

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Speaker 6: I'm calling from Dallas, Okay, Dallas, what's up, Mama.

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Speaker 7: I'm under It's a fact girl's side of dating and

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Speaker 7: I was so great.

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Speaker 8: Guys, kick it up and read it.

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Speaker 2: How the data fact chick?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Is it a heavy read?

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Speaker 2: Is it thick?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: How many pages is it?

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Speaker 3: How many pages?

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Speaker 9: Is It's not that it's not that that thick.

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Speaker 8: It's like one hundred and sixteen pages. But it's the

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Speaker 8: one day read. But it's a great.

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Speaker 2: Story about about your what my dating life?

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Speaker 1: Oh you're a big girl, a dull I'm done. She

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Speaker 1: might not be big no more. It might be her

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Speaker 1: past life she's writing about.

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Speaker 2: It was hard, it was hot for you today.

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Speaker 10: No, it's a shy.

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Speaker 11: Spirical look at my dating life because it's the things

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Speaker 11: that I went through and the lessons that I learned

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Speaker 11: along the way.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'd love to read that I had a I

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Speaker 1: had a homegirl who wrote something like that before it.

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Speaker 3: Was called dating Wild Fat Wow.

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Speaker 9: Well yeah, it's on Amazon, so it's by Nadine Jones.

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Speaker 7: Was just see me and again, how to data fact

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Speaker 7: A fat girl to dating?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: What category is it in food?

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Speaker 8: Home?

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Speaker 3: Jesus? What is it like? What categories?

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Speaker 12: It's not it should be I'm asking you.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what category is, but it's comedy.

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Speaker 8: I think tericall So you're the type of in your finece.

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Speaker 3: What's it called again?

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Speaker 7: How to Date a Fat Chick?

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Speaker 4: So if God takes you out to eat, do you

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Speaker 4: limit the food that you have so you don't look big?

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Speaker 2: You gotta read the book.

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Speaker 3: You're right, I'm sorry it came up as a cookbook.

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Speaker 2: You know it didn't shut up?

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Speaker 1: You know, How to Date a Fat Chick? Background Gods

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Speaker 1: Are Dating by Nadine Jones.

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Speaker 2: Alkay.

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Speaker 3: I like the couple.

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Speaker 5: I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 3: It looks like what do you call that? A cob

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Speaker 3: of a cob?

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Speaker 2: What do you call that?

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Speaker 5: Book?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? Whatever that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that composition? Composition?

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Speaker 2: But you have a go one. They did. Thank you

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Speaker 2: you too, good luck.

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Who's this?

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Speaker 7: What's going on?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 8: My name is super Truck and man I'm out of

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Speaker 2: What's up, super truck? How you feeling this morning?

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Speaker 10: Man? I'm good man. I'm out here shifting kids, making

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Speaker 10: that black come out to fight?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, what you transporting?

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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 7: Flat Dad from Hall and Building Materials right now?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll be safe.

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Speaker 10: For the yo man, I just want to know. Man,

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Speaker 10: y'all got love for truckers.

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Speaker 2: Man, you damn right.

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Speaker 12: I got love for truckers.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 5: I know YouTube?

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Speaker 10: Chess. Hey, look, I got a storm called Truck of Love.

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Speaker 8: Man, So y'all geld his hand.

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Speaker 10: Check it out.

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Speaker 9: It's on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: You still got love for truck and Jesse blow home

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Speaker 2: for his brother.

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Speaker 1: I got you all right, man, be safe for them?

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Speaker 9: Brother?

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Speaker 5: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Who's this?

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Speaker 10: Yo? What's upping me?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Brother?

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Speaker 10: What's up? Jess?

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Speaker 2: How y'all doing? What that baby?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 13: Good?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Get it off your chest?

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Speaker 12: Yo?

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Speaker 10: I'm mad at my brother James.

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Speaker 2: What's your brother do?

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Speaker 10: He's yo? He set me up. I'm sick last night,

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Speaker 10: I'm feeling well. I'm at home and he lied to

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Speaker 10: his wife telling her that he was hanging out with

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Speaker 10: me all night and he wasn't.

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Speaker 12: Oh man, I ain't tell you.

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Speaker 10: He ain't tell me because I was dead to the world.

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Speaker 10: And his wife's called my wife asking her was he was.

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Speaker 5: He with me?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Man?

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Speaker 2: What your wife say? Yo?

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Speaker 10: She blew his spot up like hell no, you want

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Speaker 10: to see the cameras.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 8: She blew him up.

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Speaker 10: And he's calling me up. She told him, by Yo,

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Speaker 10: you're supposed to help me up. I'm like, yo, you

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Speaker 10: should have told me first.

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Speaker 2: I hate with somebody.

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Speaker 12: Make you a part of the lie, but don't tell

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Speaker 5: Like damn dow he man because he say, now, I'm

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Speaker 5: the reason why his.

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Speaker 10: Wife is putting him out. Now he wants to come

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Speaker 10: and stay.

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Speaker 2: In my house.

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Speaker 4: Hell, you got the reason, and your wife ain't gonn

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Speaker 4: let him stay. Your wife's gonna let no cheat.

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Speaker 10: At the guys, I'm shutting him over to you, envy.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sitting over to me. I got a couple

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Speaker 10: I hear that everything every when you throw it another

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Speaker 10: mixture tape out. Man, come on shop.

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Speaker 5: Playing, you'd be rapping.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about the DJ. You be rapid.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna get that in a while. Brother, you

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Speaker 4: know it ain't gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Bro Oh, come on, v they ain't gonna happen. These

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Speaker 2: all these artists a lot different, man.

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Speaker 4: But back then I would say the artists really respected

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Speaker 4: the DJ and really loved the DJ. When nexus, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the artist was something and they would be happy to

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Speaker 2: Glad to do it. But now I ain't playing a

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Speaker 2: politics game.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I know what you on Bred Cafe.

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Speaker 4: Man, shout the all right brother, you have a good

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Speaker 4: one man. All right, brother, get it off your chest.

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Speaker 4: the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, the Breakfast clubs away.

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Speaker 3: Is your time to get it off your chest.

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Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. Hello. Who's this? This is Walt baby

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Speaker 2: Love from Bridgeport, Connecticut. What's up?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 2: What's going on with you?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 10: Listen?

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Speaker 4: I just want to say God bless you charlamagn and

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Speaker 4: Jef hilarious man for what you do on a daily basis.

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Speaker 9: Man, it's not easy and you don't get the I

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Speaker 9: want to give you flowers while you're here.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 8: You guys help me every day.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: You put me in the right direction, You.

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Speaker 10: Keep me safe, and I just want the positive vibe

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Speaker 10: to come back to you guys on a daily basis.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 7: I love y'all.

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Speaker 10: Man, Thank you, welcome you too.

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Speaker 2: Hello, who's this yo?

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Speaker 5: What's up?

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Speaker 8: Audist replay from Chicago?

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Speaker 5: What up?

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Speaker 8: Town?

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Speaker 3: Replay? What's happening?

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Speaker 8: What up?

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Speaker 7: What up? Man?

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Speaker 8: Look, I gotta give a shout out this morning to

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Speaker 8: Lauren Leosa.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 8: She been holding down man, she been coming with good news,

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Speaker 8: good stack. Me and her the same age, man, and

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Speaker 8: I just love my age. Go hard and then baby girl,

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Speaker 8: keep doing what you're doing. You know that's what.

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Speaker 14: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Talking to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what were you saying?

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Speaker 13: King?

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Speaker 4: Go ahead a king?

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 8: Look like I said, I'm replaying. I want to probably

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Speaker 8: be on on Instagram at lady love.

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Speaker 3: Why they call you replay?

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Speaker 9: Bro?

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Speaker 12: Oh man?

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Speaker 8: That's actually then they gave me. I'm an R and

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Speaker 8: B singer and uh, I don't know one of the

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Speaker 8: guys like replay. I'm like, all right, because I want

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Speaker 8: everybody to replay my phone.

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Speaker 1: Okay, brother, have a good put a little more sauce

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Speaker 1: on that. You know what I'm saying. You got to

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Speaker 1: come up with something better. Why they call you replay?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Because when I put it down, you know, ladies love

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Speaker 1: it so much they want to see it again something you.

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Speaker 5: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Know something else.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was telling me he wasn't in the women.

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Speaker 5: Hello?

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Speaker 3: Who is this?

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Speaker 8: This is Jake Metal?

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Speaker 2: J Madaw?

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Speaker 5: What's up?

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Speaker 2: If your chance?

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Speaker 5: Ja Metal?

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Speaker 2: The morning?

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Speaker 8: You know I'm stressed. You know, I'm tired of people

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Speaker 8: You know they're always telling you women and to get a.

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Speaker 9: New job, and I tell them in a minute.

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Speaker 1: You know, everyone has their own page and they want

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Speaker 8: You know how you do me, I've just turned thirty.

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Speaker 3: That's what I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Men get that kind of pressure. I didn't know men

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Speaker 1: get that. That's not that's husually pressure that's reserved for women.

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Speaker 8: No, That's what I'm saying. The man tell you why

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Speaker 9: I tell them in a minute, dog, you know, how

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Speaker 11: I'm getting close to the age, you know, thirty is

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Speaker 3: Like that, you know, think so, yeah, that's what I

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Speaker 2: That right, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 4: But that's definitely if you got older parents too, because

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Speaker 2: I'm sure. So that's what they ask want grandparents.

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Speaker 17: A certain age, if you don't have kids, that'd be

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Speaker 2: Older parents want grand kids. That's what I'm meaning.

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Speaker 1: Well, you'll meet you'll meet missus, mister Wright in due time.

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Speaker 2: Mister or missus, I'm no.

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Speaker 3: Have a good day, brother. You appreciate you, yes, sir?

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Speaker 4: All right, brother, get it off your chest eight hundred

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Speaker 4: five eight five one oh five one. If you need

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Speaker 2: Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 4: Warning everybody, it's DJ Envy, just hilarious charlamage the god

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Speaker 4: we are the Breakfast Club law La Rosa is here

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Speaker 4: as well. We got a special guest in the building,

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Speaker 4: his new book, Who Better Than You The Art of

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Speaker 4: Healthy arrogance and dreaming big is out now, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Will Packer family, what's going on.

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Speaker 3: And how you feel?

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling amazing, you know, I'm up here.

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Speaker 18: I'm up here with one of the most incredible platforms

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Speaker 18: in media right now.

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Speaker 2: Interesting time in media, you know, media ebbs and flows.

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Speaker 18: We're in an EBB right now in the movie business, Charlamagne,

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Speaker 18: you know, yeah, just you know, coming off the strikes,

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Speaker 18: coming off of COVID, like, the movie industry never really recalibrated.

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Speaker 18: So there's a lot of folks out there that are

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Speaker 18: a lot of actors out of work, writers, and so

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Speaker 18: as a producer, you know, I'm just trying to keep

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Speaker 18: Most people out there, they don't realize because there's so

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Speaker 18: much content out there in so many streaming servicess like, oh,

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Speaker 18: everything out there, I can see whatever I want. But

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Speaker 18: actually the media companies are making a lot less. So

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Speaker 18: it's interesting time in the business.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 12: Who better than you is the name of the book.

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Speaker 12: What makes you decide to write this?

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Speaker 5: Yo?

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Speaker 18: You know, I have been in the movie game for

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Speaker 18: almost thirty years now, and I have dealt with some

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Speaker 18: of the biggest names, some of the most impressive, successful people,

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Speaker 18: some of the most toxic, insecure people. And throughout that process,

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Speaker 18: I have the set of skills that I want to

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Speaker 18: share with people about how you can be successful and

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Speaker 18: of the skills that I've learned that are transferable to

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Speaker 18: want to pivot in your life. And so I'm telling

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Speaker 18: stories I've never told before, stories from dealing with you know,

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Speaker 18: It's lessons about this is how you deal with people,

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Speaker 18: how you position yourself to succeed, and how you have

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Speaker 18: healthy arrogance.

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Speaker 2: Now to be confused with toxic arrogance.

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Speaker 18: Right, toxic arrogant walks in the room and says, I'm

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Speaker 18: better than everybody here. I'm gonna win because you're gonna lose. Right,

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Speaker 18: I'm better than you. Healthy arrogance walks in a room

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Speaker 18: the most successful people feel that they don't feel like

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Speaker 18: am I supposed to be here with all these important people.

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Speaker 18: Healthy arrogance feels like I'm supposed to be here. However,

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Speaker 18: I also have something.

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Speaker 5: To add to this room.

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Speaker 18: This room is better because I'm in it, and I'm

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Speaker 18: going to get other people to understand how they and

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Speaker 18: I have a commonality in terms of our goal. If

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Speaker 18: you can get other people to see the value in

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Speaker 18: what you're going after, then you can then get them

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Speaker 18: to row in the same direction as you.

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Speaker 2: And work towards your own goal. That's what leadership is.

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Speaker 18: Getting other people to realize that it's not me against you.

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Speaker 18: If I can get you to understand that together we

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Speaker 18: my goals as well as your goals, your chance for

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Speaker 3: You know, when I read about.

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Speaker 1: You talk about healthy arrogance or hear your interview is

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Speaker 1: about healthy ar against it feels like you're saying you

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Speaker 1: just got It's like a sense of worthiness, it's value.

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Speaker 18: It is it is very much understanding the value to

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 18: You understand, Charlotte Man, because you talk about mental health

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Speaker 18: a lot we all have this drum beat in our head, right,

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Speaker 18: it can be a negative drum beat of I'm not ready,

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Speaker 18: I'm not worthy, I don't have the skills, I'm not prepared.

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Speaker 18: But there's a confidence muscle that you can build, that

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Speaker 18: you can grow by telling yourself the exact opposite, that

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Speaker 18: I am worth it, right, that I am prepared.

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Speaker 2: But it's really about assigning value.

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Speaker 18: The thing I say to people that understand, from the

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Speaker 18: this earth, you are building your brand everything you do, right.

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Speaker 18: I mean, you can't make mistakes. Everybody does. But every

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Speaker 18: and it is telling people what value to assign to you.

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Speaker 2: Whether that's somebody that is looking to.

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Speaker 18: Invest in you, looking to date you, looking to just

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So if you don't have nobody, does that mean you

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Speaker 18: Well, you know I'm not gonna say that. Well, you

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Speaker 18: mean like a relationship. Well, that just means that you

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Speaker 16: Coming this way?

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Speaker 2: The sassiness caught me off. God, is that what it is?

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Speaker 3: I'm just asking you a question because I like what

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Speaker 18: I absolutely deal with everybody deals with Everybody gets to

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Speaker 2: Like, yo, do I belong?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 18: Do I deserve to be in the most important spaces,

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Speaker 18: and I've been very, very fortunate to be in some

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Speaker 2: How can I double down on that?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 18: So, black man, African American film, American Hollywood, not a

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Speaker 2: Oftentimes it's all white people in those films.

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Speaker 18: What I choose to do instead of saying, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 18: then you triple down on that that will help with

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Speaker 2: It's something that you can build.

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Speaker 18: But you do have to build it by putting a

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Speaker 18: like a boum Deg said, check with a check, with

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Speaker 18: to do that you got to come back and not say, Okay,

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Speaker 18: my first success has to be so big, right, just

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Speaker 18: I believe that sometimes we get stuck on the first rum,

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Speaker 18: the very first thing I'm trying to get started. I

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Speaker 18: a network. That's okay, right, Don't make the first thing

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Speaker 18: you're trying to do to climb the mountain, right, that's

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Speaker 18: a lot.

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Speaker 2: That's a momentous task.

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Speaker 18: Make the first thing by the shoes, hike and boost,

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Speaker 18: then buy a rope, then drive and.

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Speaker 2: Look at it.

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Speaker 18: Well, you know you've done three things right, get started.

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Speaker 18: Do something that helps to build that confidence.

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Speaker 2: We all need that. We got more with Will Packer

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Speaker 2: when we come back.

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Speaker 4: His new book, Who Better Than You, The Art of

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Speaker 4: Healthy Arrogance and Dreaming Big is out now.

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Speaker 2: Is the Breakfast Club Good Morning, the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 7: Morning.

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Speaker 4: Everybody is dej envy just hilarious, Charlamagne the God we

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Speaker 4: are the Breakfast Club Lone the Roaster's head with us

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Speaker 4: as well. We're still kicking it with Will Packers new book,

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Speaker 4: Who Better Than You, The Art of Healthy Arrogance and

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Speaker 4: Dreaming Big, is out now, Charlamagne.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to the audit the pivot, but

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Speaker 1: first I want to ask you about the chapter that says,

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Speaker 1: seeing your laney, Yeah, just just make it wide, lean

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Speaker 1: into your thing?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 1: How does one avoid being typecasted by leaning into their thing?

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Speaker 3: And when?

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Speaker 5: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: The pivot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it.

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Speaker 18: The whole point of that chapter is about when you

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Speaker 18: have something that you do really, really well, because many

495
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Speaker 18: times people are afraid of being locked into something that

496
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Speaker 18: people will think, that's all I can do, right, But

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Speaker 18: if you do that thing, and you do it really

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Speaker 18: really well, do not stop.

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Speaker 2: Okay, don't stop.

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Speaker 18: The most successful people have a thing that they do

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Speaker 18: and they do it well. Then they use the ability

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Speaker 18: to be successful in a lane to go out and

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Speaker 18: do something else. I'm only able to write this book

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Speaker 18: with a major publisher because I've been very successful in

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Speaker 18: a particular media.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I'm able to go and do other things.

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Speaker 2: So don't worry about that. Oh well, I can do

508
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Speaker 2: so much other stuff. What's the thing you do really well?

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Speaker 2: Do that?

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Speaker 18: Triple down on that. Be the best person in that

511
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Speaker 18: particular field. And by the way, find your passion within that.

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Speaker 18: Right too many times people are telling me, well, I'm

513
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Speaker 18: not passionate about something. I gotta wait to find my

514
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Speaker 18: passion and before I go out and work really hard.

515
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Speaker 18: And I'm telling you, you're building your brand from day one.

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Speaker 18: Work hard today. I didn't have a passion to be

517
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Speaker 18: a filmmaker. I will admit that, but I did not.

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Speaker 18: That was not my dream growing up. But I found

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Speaker 18: that I was really good at knowing how to hire

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Speaker 18: actors and raise money and self distribute. And then I

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Speaker 18: found the passion in storytelling later, so I found the

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Speaker 18: thing I was really really good at, and then I

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Speaker 18: found my passion within it. I encourage people to do

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Speaker 18: that and worry about being type passed.

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Speaker 2: Stay in your lane, but you can make it. Why.

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Speaker 18: I'm not trying to pigeonhole you, and I'm not trying

527
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Speaker 18: to limit what you can do, but stay in your lane.

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Speaker 2: Too often we are trying to do.

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Speaker 18: Too much, and now you can't be the person that's

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Speaker 18: doing everything the best.

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Speaker 2: That is just not how humans work. What's the thing

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Speaker 2: you do well? Triple down on that.

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Speaker 1: So once you've leaned into your thing and you find

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Speaker 1: that thing, there's never a pivot from that thing.

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Speaker 2: It can be a pivot where you use that thing.

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Speaker 18: You use your ability, you use your brand, You use

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Speaker 18: the fact that you have got credibility in a particular space.

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Speaker 2: You have done the exact same thing.

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Speaker 18: You use the fact that you have credibility in one

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Speaker 18: lane in order to then expand your lane. Right, But

541
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Speaker 18: it should still all be about this is the thing

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Speaker 18: that I do. That's why I say stay in your lane,

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Speaker 18: but make your lane.

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Speaker 17: Why is there ever a time where like you're because

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Speaker 17: I mean, I remember when you told the story about

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Speaker 17: Kevin and with the last time you guys were here. Yeah,

547
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Speaker 17: and now I'm seeing in context of this book of

548
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Speaker 17: like who better than you? And I feel like in

549
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Speaker 17: that moment he had the arrogance to be like, I

550
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Speaker 17: can do both of these. I'm going to be fine

551
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Speaker 17: and it's all going to work out. But things like

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Speaker 17: that can kind of get pretty tricky because what if

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Speaker 17: it hadn't have worked out? Is there ever a moment

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Speaker 17: where you have to tell somebody who's coming to you

555
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Speaker 17: for this type of who better than you?

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Speaker 16: Advice?

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Speaker 17: Like, maybe this is not it for you right now,

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Speaker 17: maybe there's someone better than you right now, but that

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Speaker 17: doesn't mean later you might not be able to have

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Speaker 17: that who better than you?

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Speaker 2: Eric, you have to be honest with yourself number one.

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Speaker 18: Right, We live in a world where people think either

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Speaker 18: they are too great or they are too awful. Rodger

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Speaker 18: Kipling has a poem called if, and my favorite stanza

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Speaker 18: in that poem is if you can meet with triumph

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Speaker 18: and disaster and treat those two impostors just the same.

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Speaker 18: That is saying that both triumph and disaster are impostors,

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Speaker 18: neither of them are real.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 18: Too many times, because we post some on social media,

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Speaker 18: everybody tell you, oh my god, you're the greatest thing ever,

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Speaker 18: so good or the opposite.

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Speaker 2: They just hate No, you're telling you how oftful you are.

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Speaker 18: Neither of that is true. You gotta stay even keelled.

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Speaker 18: So the first thing you gotta do is be honest

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Speaker 18: about you and your skill set. It's the only way

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Speaker 18: you're gonna get better. Don't worry about external factors. You

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Speaker 18: got to have a very honest conversation. One of the

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Speaker 18: things I talk about in the book is how we

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Speaker 18: have to make sure I'm a daily affirmation type of person.

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Speaker 18: You're there encouraging yourself right, giving yourself positivity, telling yourself

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Speaker 18: how you're ready, how you prepared, what you can do,

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Speaker 18: but also being very very honest with yourself. I don't

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Speaker 18: care what you tell the world. A lot of yourself,

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Speaker 18: a lot of your mom, a lot of your cousin,

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Speaker 18: lot of your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife. Do not lie

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Speaker 18: to yourself. Be very very clear about what it is

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Speaker 18: that you do.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you know, I want to talk you about

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Speaker 1: the Packer family model too.

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Speaker 3: If you want to have what others, won't you have

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Speaker 3: to do with others don't?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so you got your.

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Speaker 18: Mom with you again her, I got moms, I got

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Speaker 18: you know what, It's something that mom instilled in me.

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Speaker 18: You know, when I was growing up, Mom and dad

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Speaker 18: they took me like you know, like simbing the lion

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Speaker 18: king and lifting me up and said, you know, whatever

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Speaker 18: the son touches is your son. Like I encourage my

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Speaker 18: folks with kids, do that. Tell your kids because that's

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Speaker 18: when they're the most impressiable. Tell them they can do anything.

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Speaker 18: They told me that, and so I was very audacious

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Speaker 18: growing up with my family. It's me, my wife. We

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Speaker 18: have four children, So that's the six pack. If you

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Speaker 18: want to have what others don't, you have to be

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Speaker 18: willing to do what others won't.

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 2: That is the mantra.

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Speaker 18: The mantra is that understand whatever it is that you

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Speaker 18: want to do, if anybody else can do it, then

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Speaker 18: it's not special.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna get it right. You're not gonna get

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Speaker 2: something that's unique.

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Speaker 18: You gotta be willing to do what others are not

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Speaker 18: to get that thing. And I believe that the more

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Speaker 18: you do hard things, the better.

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Speaker 2: You become at hard things.

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Speaker 18: The more hard things you do, the easier hard things become.

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Speaker 18: So don't run from doing hard things. Don't run from

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Speaker 18: doing the things that everybody else says it's crazy. That's

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Speaker 18: the only way you gonna get strength and to build

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Speaker 18: that muscle. It's by doing those hard things. Why I

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Speaker 18: say dream big because your dream has got to be

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Speaker 18: so big, because there's gonna be challenges along the way.

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Speaker 18: It's gotta be so big that it pushes you past

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Speaker 18: those challenges inevitably. Because if the dream is just a

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Speaker 18: mediocre dream, like man, it'd be kind of cool to

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Speaker 18: do that. Then when you run into a speed bump

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Speaker 18: and that's really hard, you're gonna say, you know what,

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Speaker 18: it ain't worth it.

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Speaker 2: I'm cool, right, But if the dream is so big, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 18: So big for color for h four khd, like super crazy,

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Speaker 18: beyond your wireless dreams big, then when you do hit

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Speaker 18: that hard moment, those challenges, you know it's worth it

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Speaker 18: to keep going and keep fighting because the dream.

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Speaker 5: Is big enough.

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Speaker 3: Is Will Packer allowed to turn his own book into

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Speaker 3: a movie?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Limited seriously?

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Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, I mean it's some Will Packers. You know

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Speaker 18: what I think about doing it?

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Speaker 5: I could do that.

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Speaker 16: I saw Heather in the background this day.

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Speaker 2: You know what head to say in the background. I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 17: I just saw something I was given a lean like

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Speaker 17: maybe no, don't do it right now or something.

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Speaker 18: You know what, I've made this book not to turn

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Speaker 18: into a movie or a TV show. You never say never,

653
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Speaker 18: because you know one of my biggest movies is Think

654
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Speaker 18: Like a Man. Steve Harvey will tell you he never

655
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Speaker 18: thought of that as a move never. He never wrote

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Speaker 18: it for that. I wrote this to give the master

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Speaker 18: mentorship that I didn't have. I have people coming to

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Speaker 18: me a lot and saying, tell me about your success story,

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Speaker 18: tell me about your failures, tell me about what you

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Speaker 18: had to overcome. And so when I tell these stories,

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Speaker 18: right and I talk about you know, Beyonce turning me

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Speaker 18: down five times, or I Yourselba, you know, almost not

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Speaker 18: walking the carpet at the first Emmy's and how you

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Speaker 18: get past that? Like, when I tell these stories, I'm

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Speaker 18: doing that so that other people can benefit from it.

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Speaker 2: So I could turn into a movie. That's not what

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Speaker 2: I made it for.

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Speaker 18: I literally made this book so that I could influence

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Speaker 18: other folks who are either on their way up, thinking

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Speaker 18: about making a pivot or living a life that they

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Speaker 18: know could be a little more fulfilling.

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Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Well pack a new book.

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Speaker 1: Who better than you to all the healthy arrogance and

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Speaker 1: dreaming big out right now. Always a pleasure to see

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Speaker 1: you go out there and buy this book making the.

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Speaker 3: New York Times bestseller.

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Speaker 2: Missisiate you found. I appreciate you, Man, thank you, Thank

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Speaker 2: you all for having me.

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Speaker 18: Charlotte Mann, and thank you because you're somebody that you know.

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Speaker 2: And I told you this.

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Speaker 18: We saw each other at the Democrat National Convention and

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Speaker 18: I told you I had written my first book, and

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Speaker 18: I was inspired by your books and by reading your

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Speaker 18: books and just seeing that process and the grind that

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Speaker 18: you put in. So you never know who's watching and

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Speaker 18: who you're inspiring. So thank you, my brother, thank you

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Speaker 18: for having me.

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Speaker 2: It's Will Packer. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, you're

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Speaker 2: checking out the Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's DJ Envy, Jesse, Larus, Charlamaine the God. We are

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Speaker 4: the Breakfast Club Lawn La Rosa. It's here and we

693
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Speaker 4: got a special guest in the building. David o' yellowwoe

694
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Speaker 4: was here.

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Speaker 3: Did say it?

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Speaker 5: Did you did? Okay?

697
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Speaker 3: I had to ask you beforehand.

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Speaker 5: You know, I appreciate that you did.

699
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see it all the time, but I'm like,

700
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Speaker 3: I don't want to hack it when I try to.

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Speaker 5: Say it now, everyone everyone does, but you mailed that.

702
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Speaker 3: How are you, sir?

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Speaker 5: Very good? Very good. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely so.

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Speaker 17: You got a government cheese happening right now Apple TV?

706
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Speaker 17: Yeah so and watching this but also some of the

707
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Speaker 17: other things that I've seen you play in. Can you

708
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Speaker 17: just first talk about your career and like the roles

709
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Speaker 17: that you select, all of the roles that I know

710
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 17: you for are very powerful, very like you tell stories

711
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Speaker 17: that are like so important to black people coming out

712
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Speaker 17: the gate you are. Is that something you were like, Hey,

713
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Speaker 17: this has to be it for me, this is what

714
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Speaker 17: I want to do. Or did you just fall into

715
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Speaker 17: these roles because like, how did it happen?

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Speaker 5: No, thank you for saying that. It's very intentional. You know.

717
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Speaker 5: I was incredibly influenced by film and television growing up,

718
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Speaker 5: and I was aware quite early that the images I

719
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Speaker 5: was taking in were in some ways informing me of

720
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Speaker 5: what blackness means globally speaking. And then I had this

721
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Speaker 5: incredible moment where, having been born and grown up in

722
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Speaker 5: the UK, we moved back to Nigeria for six years.

723
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Speaker 5: We made you six to thirteen, and I was suddenly

724
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Speaker 5: in a country, in an environment where I was not

725
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Speaker 5: a minority, everything on offer in that society was mine

726
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 5: for the taking. And I realized that these images that

727
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Speaker 5: I was internalizing that often had Black people on the

728
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Speaker 5: periphery or playing what I deemed to be caricatures or stereotypes,

729
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: were insidious, were detrimental to us as a people. And so,

730
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Speaker 5: having moved back to the UK becoming an actor, I

731
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Speaker 5: felt that if I'm not part of the solution, I'm

732
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Speaker 5: part of the problem. And so I've definitely gravitated towards

733
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Speaker 5: roles and projects that mean that I am trying to

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Speaker 5: change what I saw growing up. I'm trying to widen

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Speaker 5: the aperture and contextualize who and what we are as

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Speaker 5: black people.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting, I wonder, how did you know that you

738
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Speaker 1: know they were characters and stereotypes if you've never if

739
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Speaker 1: you had mental America to see.

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Speaker 5: For yourself, Because I was living in communities where black

741
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Speaker 5: people were central to their own lives, and I knew

742
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Speaker 5: that what I was saying, because it wasn't just America,

743
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Speaker 5: it was in the UK as well. You know, if

744
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Speaker 5: if every time you see a black person, they are

745
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Speaker 5: on the periphery of the narrative if so often they

746
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Speaker 5: are criminalized or marginalized. That was not my experience walking

747
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 5: through the earth, and so I felt that's intentional, that's political,

748
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 5: that's propaganda in a sense, and it's having a detrimental

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Speaker 5: effect on me because there is a disconnect between my

750
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Speaker 5: lived experience and what I'm internalizing on screen. So that's

751
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Speaker 5: how I knew it was something to become batter. You know.

752
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Speaker 1: It's so interesting, right, because I have that conversation often

753
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Speaker 1: because you know, when you watch film in television in

754
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Speaker 1: the nineties, if everything had some type of socially redeeming value, right,

755
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I always wonder what

756
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: the hell happened to it? It felt like it was intentional. Yeah,

757
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Speaker 1: put him to stop showing us that and start giving

758
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Speaker 1: us like the reality television.

759
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I can tell you exactly what happened. So often,

760
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 5: why you got you had the those films that were

761
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 5: bringing context to who we are as black people is

762
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Speaker 5: because it was largely being framed and made by a

763
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Speaker 5: black people. What has happened a lot is that our stories,

764
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Speaker 5: we craft them, we developed them. But at some point

765
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Speaker 5: you've got to take it to people who have green

766
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Speaker 5: light power who are not from our demographic and so

767
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Speaker 5: therefore you're having to push who we are through their

768
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Speaker 5: perception of who we are, and it almost always gets eroded,

769
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Speaker 5: watered down, or marginalized. And that's what's happening for some

770
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Speaker 5: reason in the nineties that there were there were producers,

771
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Speaker 5: there were creatives, there were directors who were just doing

772
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Speaker 5: it all themselves, and it was getting celebrated and it

773
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Speaker 5: was less watered down, and that's why I think we

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Speaker 5: had that golden era.

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Speaker 16: Is it ever heavy for you?

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Speaker 17: Because I remember watching you in the story about doctor

777
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Speaker 17: Martin Luther King and yeah, in like, I know there's

778
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Speaker 17: a lot because you also have done theater. Yeah, you're

779
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 17: very serious about what you do, so I know that

780
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Speaker 17: there's a lot of study and deep study and certain

781
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Speaker 17: things of that nature. So you're probably doing that for

782
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Speaker 17: every single role. And there's a lot of like just

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Speaker 17: trauma that you take on differently because you get so

784
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Speaker 17: close to your characters. How does that stick with you,

785
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Speaker 17: like in that pressure from outside world too, of like

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Speaker 17: these are characters and people that you know have shaped

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Speaker 17: our world.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I try to stay away from the

789
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Speaker 5: trauma component. What I mostly gravitate towards are aspirational representations

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Speaker 5: of us. So in playing Dr King, the gift for

791
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Speaker 5: me was to see a leader, to see someone who

792
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Speaker 5: was an icon, but who was a human being as well.

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Speaker 5: And I'm interested in stories where we get to be triumphant,

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Speaker 5: where we get to be someone you would aspire to be,

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Speaker 5: no matter what demographic of person you are. More often

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Speaker 5: than not, when you see black people in a historical context,

797
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Speaker 5: we are browbeaten, we're broken down, and often we don't

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Speaker 5: We're not allowed to ascend. You won't catch me in

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Speaker 5: that narrative. For me personally, we have got to for

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Speaker 5: me be on an upward trajectory in whatever we do,

801
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Speaker 5: so it's less traumatic, it's more celebratory of who we

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Speaker 5: are without shying away from the challenges we face.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they never want to show you the slave revolting.

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Speaker 5: Right right, exactly exactly. And for me, you know, that's

805
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Speaker 5: why I resist slave narratives because it's very hard to

806
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Speaker 5: find the triumphant in that. The closest I came to

807
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Speaker 5: that was playing bass Reefs. In that this show Lowman

808
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 5: bass Reefs, he starts enslaved. But the great thing about

809
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Speaker 5: being a producer is that you can ensure or be

810
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Speaker 5: a voice in where the narrative goes. I would not

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Speaker 5: have taken that on if he didn't go from enslavement

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Speaker 5: to empowerment. Staying in enslavement is not something that I

813
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 5: want to project to our people, because there are people

814
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Speaker 5: who enjoy that narrative as a means of keeping us down.

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Speaker 17: You said something interesting, you said it being a producer

816
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 17: you get to kind of like, you know, help to

817
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 17: figure out where the character development goes and stuff like that.

818
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 17: What part of your career did that become an option

819
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Speaker 17: for you, because not all actors have the ability to

820
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 17: be on a set and say, hey, I think that

821
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 17: we should change this or in power differently because of

822
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Speaker 17: how my people will see this. When did that happen

823
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Speaker 17: first in your career?

824
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Speaker 5: It happened by accident. It was on Selma. I got

825
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 5: the script just as an actor in two thousand and seven,

826
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 5: felt a real calling to play that role. But I

827
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 5: auditioned for it and the first director said, David o'yelowo

828
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Speaker 5: is not Doctor King. That was literally the feedback, And

829
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Speaker 5: it took another seven years before the film came to fruition.

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Speaker 5: But What I could never had anticipated was that I

831
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Speaker 5: would go from being an actor who was rejected initially

832
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 5: to three directors later because they just kept on not

833
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 5: wanting to make that movie because black doesn't travel, the

834
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 5: audience is not going to gravitate towards it. Whatever the

835
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 5: excuses are they say that, well they did, Oh yeah,

836
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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, you think this is a film about

837
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Speaker 5: King Ala Perry.

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Speaker 16: Because they said that.

839
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Speaker 17: They told Tyler Perry black people would in lead the

840
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Speaker 17: theater to go to the movies.

841
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Speaker 16: They don't travel beyond.

842
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Speaker 5: So he met global you meant every global box office

843
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 5: right globally, but here as well. That the narrative was

844
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 5: black people don't want to see black struggle, White people

845
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 5: don't want to feel white guilt and things like that.

846
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Speaker 5: But you know, it wasn't until twenty ten. Lee Daniels

847
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 5: actually came along and was the one who actually cast

848
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 5: me in it. Still couldn't get the film made. In

849
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 5: the meantime, I did a small film with Ava Duvene

850
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Speaker 5: called Middle of Nowhere, small two hundred thousand dollars movie,

851
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 5: and I felt she is a genius. Lee had moved

852
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 5: on from the project because they wouldn't give him enough

853
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 5: money to make it, and I went in and fought

854
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 5: very hard for Ava to be the one to direct it.

855
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 5: She rewrote the script. It was brilliant rewrite of the script.

856
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 5: Still couldn't get it made. I'd done the Butler with

857
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 5: Oprah at that time. I invited Oprah on to be

858
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Speaker 5: a producer on the film. Twelve Years a Slave came

859
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Speaker 5: out and had done well, which had broken down this

860
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 5: notion of our stories not traveling. And so the aggregation

861
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 5: of all of those things is what went on to

862
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 5: mean Selma got made well. I didn't realize I was

863
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 5: doing by bringing on Ava, bringing on Oprah, fighting daily

864
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 5: to try and get the thing made, was producing and

865
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 5: so I thought, oh, okay, well I can do that

866
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 5: again for the things that I believe in and I'm

867
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 5: passionate about. And so you know, that was ten eleven

868
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Speaker 5: years ago now and I haven't still upset Hi.

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Speaker 2: We have more with David o' yellowoe when we come back.

870
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Speaker 4: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning everybody. It's theej

871
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 4: Envy Jesse, hilarious, Charlamagne de God. We are the Breakfast Club.

872
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 4: Laur La Ross here as well. We're still kicking it

873
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: with David o' yellowol, Lauren.

874
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Speaker 16: I want to talk about government Cheese.

875
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 17: So the name itself of the series, let's talk about

876
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 17: that first, because it's referring to the government Cheese program,

877
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 17: which is a kind of like an overarching conversation that

878
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 17: you guys have throughout the series without really.

879
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 16: Having it all the way.

880
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 17: Yeah, So talk about the you know, just the choice

881
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 17: of title with that, and you know what, you hope

882
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 17: the hope is that people get just from looking at

883
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 17: the title before they even see it.

884
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, government cheese for us was symbolic of

885
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 5: what we tend to do as black people. You know,

886
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 5: necessity being the mother of invention. We will take nothing

887
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 5: and make it into something. And government cheese, as people

888
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 5: may know, as government subsidized food. There was powdered eggs,

889
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 5: there was powdered milk as well, and with government cheese

890
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 5: in particular. You talk to people even now they have this,

891
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 5: you know, they go into this place in their heads

892
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 5: when they think about those grilled cheese, sandwichees or the

893
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 5: mac and cheese, and they talk about it incredibly fondly

894
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 5: because it was, you know, a not particularly nutritious food

895
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 5: that people made into a delicacy. And what you have

896
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 5: with the Chambers family is that they are this black

897
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 5: family in the valley in the sixties, making something out

898
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 5: of nothing. This guy starts the show incarcerated, has this

899
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 5: epiphany about making a self sharpening drill. It's going to

900
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 5: be the means by which his family comes out of

901
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 5: the challenging situations they're in. So it's aspirational. You have

902
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 5: the character that similar Mysic plays. He's a receptionist, but

903
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 5: she wants to be an interior designer. You have our

904
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 5: son who's aspiring to be a pole vaulter. You have

905
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 5: this other son of ours who you know is completely

906
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 5: obsessed with Native American culture. Everyone is looking beyond where

907
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 5: they are from an aspirational point of view, and in

908
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 5: many ways, government cheese is sort of symbolic that.

909
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: What's the equivalent of government cheese in the UK? I

910
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: don't as a British Man, did you understand what that was?

911
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean we don't have exactly the same thing,

912
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 5: but I remember, you know, you got bottles of milk

913
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 5: that everyone got, you know, that would get dropped at

914
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 5: your house every every morning, and that was something that

915
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 5: was across the nation. Super rich people were not getting

916
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 5: that necessarily, but it was you know, lower income family.

917
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 5: So that's the closest that we got in terms of

918
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 5: that situation. But the thing I know from living in

919
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 5: the UK, living in Nigeria and Africa, living here is

920
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 5: that we're wherever you go. The resilience of black people

921
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: in terms of you know, making something out of nothing

922
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 5: is just something that feels pretty universal.

923
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: You've had other roles that have highlighted black life from

924
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: the sixties. What about government Cheese felt different from other projects.

925
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 5: This is the amount of joy on display and just

926
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 5: the relatability. I think. You know, our experience is very specific,

927
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 5: especially in the sixties as it pertains to civil rights

928
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 5: and black struggle. But you know, with this family, they

929
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 5: are dealing not only with economic challenges but marital challenges,

930
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 5: and they are raising kids and you know, just just

931
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 5: trying to make ends meet, and I think all of

932
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 5: those things are what make it fresh and familiar. At

933
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 5: the same time, you know, you've seen black people in

934
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 5: the sixties, but never quite like this, never quite in

935
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 5: this place, and never this family. You know, they're kind

936
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 5: of out there. But you know, I have a kids myself,

937
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 5: and you know, it's weird. It's not until you go

938
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 5: to a restaurant and you see people looking you funny

939
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 5: and you realize how weird and quirking your own family

940
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 5: is because you're just being super loud and people are

941
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 5: king into your conversation. So I think we're probably all

942
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 5: a bit more quirky and with than we can to admit.

943
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 17: Well, this series is definitely a lot more like light

944
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 17: and fun and you know, even though it takes on

945
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 17: like some serious undertones. But I was reading this article

946
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 17: that you did with a mental magazine. Yeah, and you

947
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 17: were talking about going out into Wyoming on a ranch

948
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 17: with your kids.

949
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

950
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 17: When I saw the article, I was like, this is

951
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 17: like a random interview for him to have right now.

952
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 17: And then I was reading and I was like, I

953
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 17: get it because you put yourself in a light of

954
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 17: like a person who has had to learn again to

955
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 17: just like relax and just be fun and just be

956
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 17: a person. Because you know, you're studying your acting, you're working.

957
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 17: Then there's clauses where you can't go out and do

958
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 17: stuff like that, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah,

959
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 17: but those moments with your kids where you're just they're

960
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 17: seeing you as like a human or it's like Dad

961
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 17: is fun, Dad can do these things. How does that

962
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 17: reignite you when you get back on these sets, you know,

963
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 17: and you take on these characters like the one in

964
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 17: a government cheese.

965
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 5: I'm so glad you brought that up, because you know,

966
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 5: everything I'm saying is hard work. You know, when I

967
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 5: make a show, probably in the past, to an unhealthy degree,

968
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 5: I feel like it's a political act. I feel like

969
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 5: it's not just about me going to work and taking

970
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 5: on a story, bringing my people with me. And you

971
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 5: could argue that there are elements of that that are unhealthy.

972
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 5: And so to smell the roses while you're on the journey,

973
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 5: to continue to intentionally enjoy your family, enjoy your marriage,

974
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 5: enjoy your home has been something that I've tried to

975
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 5: afford myself more and more as I've got deeper into

976
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 5: my career, especially as there are now more wins on

977
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 5: the board. You know, there are really significant things I've

978
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: done that are absolutely in line with what I set

979
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 5: out to do, and the temptation is to just be, Okay,

980
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 5: what's next, what's next, what's next? And you know, I

981
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 5: have four kids, three boys and a girl. I have

982
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 5: a wife, I deeply love, and you know that is

983
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 5: just as important. And a life well lived is not

984
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 5: really about what you did. It's how you made people

985
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 5: feel and the things that well, there you go, and

986
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 5: you're right, And I want the people closest to me

987
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 5: to feel like I was present, to feel like I

988
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 5: didn't just say I loved them, but my actions demonstrated

989
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 5: that as well. And I think that's time. That's just

990
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 5: constantly demonstrating to the people you love that you value

991
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 5: being in their presence. And so that is that. That's

992
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 5: I'm working on it. I'm not going to tell you that,

993
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 5: you know, I'm all the way there, but that's definitely

994
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 5: an intention I'm trying to bring more into my life.

995
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Is that what you meant when you said in the

996
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: article that you came back a different dad?

997
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

998
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 5: I came back a different Wow. You guys really do

999
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 5: your research. You really read that audience.

1000
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 17: Whoever was that pitch that that was so smart because

1001
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 17: in looking at you up everything Okay, okay.

1002
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: I didn't even know she pitched it.

1003
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 16: Yeah, well you don't just end up in mental magazine.

1004
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: Oh I thought.

1005
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 17: I would have ran it up too, But you know,

1006
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 17: when I saw that, I was like it was so genius,

1007
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 17: because I think your reputation as an actor is so

1008
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 17: like it. It's very like stern and you know, silent

1009
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 17: and serious. And then I said this article about you

1010
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 17: doing all this stuff with my oomen with your kids,

1011
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 17: I'm like, wait, hold on, what you'd be having fun?

1012
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: So it made me That's what I guess.

1013
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you said you came back a different dad,

1014
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: I guess you just realized, like, I can't just be

1015
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: so much into my work.

1016
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: I still got to be Pops.

1017
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 5: But but also, you know, I was a really rambunctious kid.

1018
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 5: I would throw myself all over the place. I was

1019
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 5: one of three boys. And then I had my own

1020
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 5: kids and I got super like wrapping them in cotton wool,

1021
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 5: like careful, careful, don't do that, you know. And then

1022
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 5: we went on this trip well horse riding and the

1023
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 5: ATVing and where you're shooting arrows and bike riding, and

1024
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 5: I just really just let myself go, probably a bit

1025
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 5: too much because I went flying over the handlebars of

1026
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 5: the ATV at one point. But you know, I do

1027
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 5: that when I'm playing a role because it's like throw

1028
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 5: yourself into the role, do whatever the role requires. But

1029
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 5: for my kids to see me having fun in that

1030
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 5: way was an eye opener for them. And I came

1031
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 5: back differently because I was like, you know what, I

1032
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 5: am almost playing a role for my kids in order

1033
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 5: for them to be safe, but they also need to

1034
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 5: see dad letting loose and having fun, because then they'll

1035
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 5: hopefully take the right kind of risks, not just you know,

1036
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 5: careless risks. And it was a shift in the dynamic,

1037
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: and it was something I actually didn't want to go on,

1038
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 5: particularly my wife won it in a raffle, this trip

1039
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 5: to this dude ranch and then sent us all out,

1040
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 5: and you know, I'm so grateful that we did it,

1041
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 5: and we've done so many more things like that since

1042
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 5: then because it was hugely beneficial for our family.

1043
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: We have more with David o' yellowoe when we come back.

1044
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: It's the breakfast Club.

1045
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 4: Come morning morning. Everybody is thej Envy, Jess Hilarrys, Charlamagne

1046
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 4: the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Laurla Roles is

1047
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 4: here as well. We're still kicking it with David o'

1048
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 4: yellow old Charlomagne.

1049
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: Did you have any reservations about playing MLK because you

1050
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: are a British actor and you know, there's always that thing,

1051
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: oh why are all the British actors playing the roles

1052
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: of American icons?

1053
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 5: No, because of the way it came in. You know,

1054
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 5: when I read the script in two thousand and seven,

1055
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 5: I had never been thinking of myself as doctor King,

1056
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 5: you know, but I'm a Christian. I was in a

1057
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 5: time of praying and fasting and I felt, God, tell

1058
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 5: me you are going to play this role. And then

1059
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 5: the way it came about eventually, which is that, you know,

1060
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 5: I can safely say pretty much no one worked as

1061
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 5: hard to get that film made as I did, and

1062
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 5: I would probably say no one else was quite as

1063
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 5: influential in getting that film made, between bringing on Ava,

1064
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 5: between bringing on Oprah, between all the the work done

1065
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 5: behind the scenes to try and get the film made.

1066
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 5: So for me, I just found it unacceptable that the

1067
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 5: only American who had a holiday named after him in

1068
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 5: the twentieth century, who happens to be a black man,

1069
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 5: had not had a film made about him. Yet I

1070
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 5: wasn't feeling like I have to be the one to

1071
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 5: make it. But this was already fifty years after his assassination.

1072
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 5: Why do we not have the movie? And I'm a

1073
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 5: big believer in. If not me, then who, And so

1074
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 5: I was never really thinking I'm British, it should be

1075
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 5: someone else. And the reality is that when Lee Daniels

1076
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 5: was casting for it, he met everyone I met. I

1077
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 5: saw the list of some of the people he met.

1078
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 5: I was like, Oh my lord, I cannot believe I'm

1079
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 5: going up against my heroes. Who even dare think I'm

1080
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 5: going to be the one to play this. But I

1081
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 5: eventually got the role, and so for me it's a

1082
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 5: question of Okay, now I've been given the opportunity, It's

1083
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 5: less about whether or not I should play it. It's

1084
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 5: more about how well do it. That is going to be,

1085
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, the thing that I

1086
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 5: want people to judge. And so I never really thought

1087
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 5: about it in that way, because at the end of

1088
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 5: the day, I have no interest in playing myself on Spain.

1089
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 5: I'm always going to be gravitating towards the most extreme

1090
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 5: challenge in terms of playing someone who's not necessarily me.

1091
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 17: Do you ever could you have your production companies Eoroba

1092
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 17: Saxony ORBA Saxon. So I know that you and your

1093
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 17: wife co run that production company, and I'm sure a

1094
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 17: lot of the stories that you guys tell are very

1095
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 17: close to the heart as far as like black stories,

1096
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 17: just by your passion here, do you get backlash at

1097
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 17: all because you're not married to a black woman doing that?

1098
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 16: And how do you deal with that?

1099
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 5: Ifsol not to my face, there are plenty of people

1100
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 5: who feel some kind of way about that. But we

1101
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 5: called it Yuba Saxon because you know, I'm from the

1102
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 5: Yuroba tribe in Nigeria. She's Anglo Saxon, And so you know,

1103
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 5: our company is a demonstration of the fact that we

1104
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 5: are more alike than we are different as human beings

1105
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 5: generally speaking. You know, in making government che yes, it's

1106
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 5: a black family. But my hope and my bet is

1107
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 5: that everyone is gonna see their family in that family

1108
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 5: because of the relatable themes and components that we've woven

1109
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 5: into it. And so you know, I'm incredibly proud of

1110
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 5: my family. I fell in love with my wife when Gusha.

1111
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 5: We met when we were teenagers. We got married when

1112
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 5: she was twenty i was twenty two, and everything we

1113
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 5: had we built together. So you know, for me, sometimes

1114
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 5: the accusation, you know, in marrying a white woman is

1115
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 5: you know, they'd say things like there's self loathing in there,

1116
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 5: or what's the other one, or that she's a trophy

1117
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 5: or something like that. We were so poor when we

1118
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 5: started out, they couldn't be less trophy or if it tried.

1119
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 5: But you know, I am an incredibly proud black man,

1120
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 5: African Christian husband, father. There are so many things that

1121
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 5: I am on top of my democrat thinking, who I'm

1122
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 5: married to, and those are all reflected in the in

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00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 5: the work that iron we do.

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00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: You and your wife should be thinking about producing a

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00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: biopic on a great man named doctor Umar Johnson. He's

1126
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: an activist here an America scholar. Wow yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1127
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: to think about that, just look.

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00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: At it, look look into it, Listen to listen.

1129
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 5: I'm going to keep he's about in trouble. Was that

1130
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 5: about to become a mean? Just then about a mean?

1131
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 16: There's a whole change.

1132
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: Trust me, they'll love you for that withever role that

1133
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: you will pitch that you morally said to yourself, I

1134
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: can't do this.

1135
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 5: Well, what tends to happen is the minute you play

1136
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 5: a civil rights leader, you get every civil rights leader

1137
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 5: who's ever lived. Uh, which so I definitely I definitely

1138
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 5: said though to those the minute you play a groundbreaking character.

1139
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 5: There's a whole genre called the first black man who.

1140
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 5: You know, I get a lot of first black man who,

1141
00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 5: which I'm not.

1142
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 16: What's the craziest thing you was, like you, I didn't

1143
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 16: even know a black man, didn't it.

1144
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 5: I want to say that there have been like windscreen wipers,

1145
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 5: the guy who invented the paper clip, the guy who

1146
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 5: like like it's it's it's ridiculous. It gets as ridiculous

1147
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 5: as that, and people will come to you like full

1148
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 5: of passion. The other one you want to really avoid

1149
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 5: is when someone goes, man, I got this script.

1150
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 11: It's by my dad, and he he the first person

1151
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 11: who had a car wash in Alabama and all that

1152
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 11: kind of stuff, and I just like, I don't know

1153
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 11: how to tell you that.

1154
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: That is not a movie.

1155
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just so sorry, but that's not going

1156
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 5: to be my next But I got your next project,

1157
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 5: go in and Out.

1158
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 16: It is crazy.

1159
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 5: Because it happens a lot of a lot to me.

1160
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 5: So so yeah, those are the ones to avoid as well.

1161
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1162
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 17: Oh you mentioned so casually multiple times, Oprah, just.

1163
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 16: Just very casually.

1164
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 17: I read it the story about when you invited her

1165
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 17: to Odello opening night, and she had to sit on

1166
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 17: the hard benches and she never let you leave that down.

1167
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 5: She just never stopped talking about child those benches. But

1168
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 5: she came to Coriolanus, which I just did in London,

1169
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 5: and they had cushionsy, yes, so you know we are

1170
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 5: beyond the bad benches now, but yeah, and they were

1171
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 5: very tough benches towards three hours of Shakespeare. So she

1172
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 5: fair point. But I'm glad that we've broken the deadlock.

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00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 17: She show up a lot for you, though it sounds

1174
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 17: like just in what I'm hearing you say, like what's

1175
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 17: that relationship, and like, because you know, opraint coming out

1176
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 17: the house for everybody, she is not.

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00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 5: She's not. Yeah, you know, we met doing The Butler together,

1178
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 5: and I remember being stood at a party at Lee

1179
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 5: Daniel's house that he was renting in New Orleans when

1180
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 5: we were shooting that film, and it was at a

1181
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 5: time when I just felt I felt very isolated. I

1182
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 5: felt very alone. I'd moved here with my family, if

1183
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 5: I'm totally honest, I felt like there were other actors

1184
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 5: who saw me as a threat in a way that

1185
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 5: confused me, because I was like, I'm just you know,

1186
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 5: i'd come out of theater in the UK. It's an

1187
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 5: environment where it's all about, you know, about the work

1188
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 5: and working together and people who were like, you know

1189
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 5: that coming here to take our jobs thing was a

1190
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 5: real thing I was feeling. And I just remember still

1191
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 5: being stood in a corner at this party and Oprah

1192
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 5: came up to me and said, you're okay. I said,

1193
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 5: you know what, you know, I'm really glad to have

1194
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 5: gotten this movie. But it's just I don't know if

1195
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 5: you've ever felt this, just like your own community is

1196
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 5: is resisting you, which is what I'm feeling.

1197
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Speaker 1: She's the first, whatever you said earlier, the first ever.

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Speaker 5: I know, and so exactly your reaction there was her reaction.

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Speaker 5: She was like baby. And she talked about how Sidney

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00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 5: Poitier was the one who took her under his wing

1201
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 5: and said, no, you're not crazy. This is a real thing.

1202
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 5: It's something that is unfortunately part of ascending in our community.

1203
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 5: And he mentored her and she literally said to me,

1204
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 5: I am going to do for you what he did

1205
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 5: for me. And she has never abated on that. You know,

1206
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 5: Summer doesn't happen without her, My directorial debut doesn't acting

1207
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 5: happen without her. So much of the advice, so much

1208
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 5: of the financial literacy I have came from her because

1209
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 5: I didn't come from means. My parents were not particularly

1210
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 5: good business people, even though they had a business. And

1211
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 5: so yeah, she has really really made good on that

1212
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 5: promise and it's been absolutely life changing.

1213
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 16: People definitely hate you now, you know, no, just pop outside.

1214
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know. I made a rod

1215
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 5: from my back. Pause.

1216
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: David, thank you for joining us, brother, Thank you.

1217
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: Government Cheese is on Apple TV right now and it

1218
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: was a pleasure talking to you, man.

1219
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: And I'll be a strange it's David a Yellow World.

1220
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

1221
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 12: He gave me dounky other day and I deserve that.

1222
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 3: You need to know.

1223
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: You need to tell them. I am you have the boy.

1224
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 16: Tell them.

1225
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 3: It's time for Donkey Day.

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00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 2: It's a read. But you're so good at Charlamage.

1227
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 10: He wants charlamage to.

1228
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 15: My mom.

1229
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: Now, Salomame who he's a Dusky of the Day two

1230
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: now well, sexy rad Donkey of to Day go goes

1231
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: to Ashley Cross. Ashley is a thirty seven year old

1232
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: African American woman from Memphis, Tennessee. Okay, salute everyone who

1233
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: listens to us on K ninety seven in Memphis.

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00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 3: Now, I'm sure that you all are aware by now.

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00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of companies that rolled back their diversity

1236
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: equity and including initiatives. One of those companies is Walmart. Now,

1237
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: if you read my first book, Black Privilege, and you

1238
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: know that joy Walmart brought me as a child, because

1239
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: when you grow up in the country, like I did,

1240
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: salute the monks corner South Carolina, drop on the clues,

1241
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: bumps form most corner South Carolina. When you grow up

1242
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: in the country or rural area, the twenty five hour

1243
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: Walmart is everything. Okay, that's what we would go late

1244
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: at night because there was nothing else to do. Yes,

1245
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: the good old days, walking the holy grounds of Walmart.

1246
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: This was way back in the day when the only

1247
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: thing they were rolling back is prices. But a lot

1248
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: of people have called for a boycott at these companies,

1249
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: in particular Target, but Ashley Cross has decided that she

1250
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: is staging a one woman boycott of Walmart. Yes, in fact,

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00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: Ashley is not going to be shopping at Walmart in period.

1252
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: No Walmart in the country, none of them ever Again, Okay,

1253
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: do you have that kind of commitment to your boycott?

1254
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: Can you vow to never shopping an establishment ever again?

1255
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: Are a scott paper tower being ten sixty eight for

1256
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: twelve rolls too great a deal to pass up?

1257
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: Well?

1258
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: If it is, then you can always do what Ashley

1259
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: did because it's guaranteed Ashley will never step foot in

1260
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: any Walmart ever again. And I lie, it's not because

1261
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: she's boycotting Walmart. It's actually because Walmart is boycotting her.

1262
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: What do you mean, uncle, Charla, Walmart is boycotting her? Well,

1263
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: let's go to news Channel three for the report.

1264
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 13: Police Ashley Cross, charged with criminal trespass and theft of

1265
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 13: merchandise is, according to the police report, a well known

1266
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 13: shoplifter at this Walmart on Elvis Presley Boulevard in Whitehaven,

1267
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 13: so well known to Walmart that Cross is on an

1268
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 13: Authorization of Agency list, meaning she's banned from any Walmart

1269
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 13: location in the United States. The Elvis Presley Boulevard stores

1270
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 13: where Cross and another suspect were arrested February tenth, Cross

1271
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 13: was seen unisying and devised to scan her items for

1272
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 13: one dollar at a self checkout machine.

1273
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 19: Ashley Cross remains in jail on a seventy five hundred

1274
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 19: dollars bond. She is due back in court February nineteenth.

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00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 19: The suspect with cross received a misdemeanor citation for theft

1276
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 19: of property.

1277
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 3: Oh, she already with the court. I wonder what happened. Listen.

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00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: I used to shoplift up until twenty sixteen. Okay, that's

1279
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: when I stopped shoplifting. But I didn't, you know, feel

1280
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: like I was stealing.

1281
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: Because nine years ago, you had a little money.

1282
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 16: Nine years ago, are you still stealing?

1283
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, But I didn't feel like you was

1284
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: stealing because I didn't try to hide anything. I would

1285
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: walk in and, you know, take what I want and

1286
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: just walk out. I only get caught when you look suspicious,

1287
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: you know. Plus I never really stole anything but magazines,

1288
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: you know, when I was young, like Black and Miles,

1289
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: twelve packs of butt light, random stuff like that.

1290
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 3: But Ashley is clearly a kleptomaniac.

1291
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: And she's good because she was using a bar code

1292
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: from an old watch battery to scan all her items

1293
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: for just one dollar to self checkout. I stand a

1294
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: creative thief. Okay, y'all still stealing? Like flintstones. Actually out

1295
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: here like a jetson with it. Maybe this is the

1296
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: normal way to shoplift. Now, I don't steal anymore, so

1297
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. But Ashley stole eleven packs of Ramen noodles,

1298
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: women's boots, a pair of jeans, and a T shirt,

1299
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: all totaling one hundred and thirty seven dollars and thirty

1300
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: four cents. Now, this woman was clearly stealing essentials. Okay,

1301
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: these are reasonable things to steal. Ramen noodles, boots, clothes.

1302
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: I understand. In America, I'm gonna tell you something you

1303
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: don't want to hear. There's gonna be a lot more

1304
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: of this. Why because during America's inflation crisis, Walmart was

1305
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: the spot.

1306
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 3: Okay, you can.

1307
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: Get good deals all types of essentials. And yesterday Walmart

1308
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: said things are about to get slow because consumers are

1309
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: growing increasingly frustrated with inflation, and they're concerned about President

1310
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: Trump's tasks. Basically, folks being broke. And if people keep

1311
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: losing their jobs, they will be broken. And if you

1312
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: are the reason okay people are losing their jobs, like

1313
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: Elon Musk and Donald Trump are. In regards the federal workers,

1314
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: and you're putting tariffs on items. Not only do I

1315
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: not have a job, things are going to be even

1316
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: more expensive. So what am I going to resort to doing?

1317
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: I tell you what people will resort to doing. Trying

1318
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: to survive, and trying to survive can look like a

1319
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: number of things, and sometimes one of those things is shoplifted.

1320
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm not making excuses for Ashley. I'm just telling America

1321
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: what the inevitable is when you don't take care of

1322
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: the least of us. Nevertheless, Ashley crosses on Walmart's authorization

1323
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: of agency lists, which prohibits her from entering any Walmart

1324
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: store across the country. I didn't know such a list existed,

1325
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: but Ashley is on it, and she is currently well,

1326
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: not even know if currently, but she was being held

1327
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: on the seventy five hundred dollar bond, probably still in it.

1328
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: She's probably still look in it because if he had

1329
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty four dollars to get these items

1330
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: for Walmart, you damn sure ain't got the seventy five

1331
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: hundred dollars bond all the ten percent of seven hundred

1332
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars to get out. But some donkey of

1333
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: the days just sell themselves. Please give Ashley Cross the

1334
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: Sweet Sounds and the Hamiltons.

1335
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 15: You oh the day, ye oh the day.

1336
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: Ye I know, it's just you feel bad for now.

1337
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: You don't feel bad for her. She's a repeat offender.

1338
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 17: She could have got a job, or maybe the first

1339
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 17: offense put something on her record and she couldn't.

1340
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 16: Get the job.

1341
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,959
Speaker 1: That is true too, But she stole from there a lot.

1342
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you switch it up?

1343
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 17: All right, it's gonna sound bad, but no, you ever,

1344
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 17: you ever be in so check out and be feeling

1345
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 17: like this.

1346
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 16: I shouldn't have to pay for this stuff, Like some

1347
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 16: of this stuff is old to me.

1348
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: Like maybe she felt like that.

1349
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: No, I don't feel like that. And that's what happens

1350
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: when you still wiggle. When you still wiggle, you know

1351
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You.

1352
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: Get good?

1353
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: What what?

1354
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1355
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 17: You so lucky you were still in when your face

1356
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 17: was two different colors because they wouldn't have recognized you

1357
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 17: from me to side.

1358
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: That is true. That is very true. If you if

1359
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm on camera in twenty sixteen, that's not me. Okay,

1360
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: that's not me. It's not the same person the breakfast club.

1361
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: That's about me. For relationship problems. That's about me.

1362
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 12: If you need to beat your coworker's ass about me,

1363
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 12: your coworker needs to beat your ass, call it up.

1364
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 12: They got the jests, and I'm here to fix your mess.

1365
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: Fix your mess.

1366
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 12: It's getting very much messy.

1367
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 3: Let me fix that morning.

1368
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 4: Everybody your stiege envy Jess, hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.

1369
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: We are to breakfast club. It's time for just fixed

1370
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: my mess. Hello. Who's this?

1371
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 14: Anonymous?

1372
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: Okay, anonymous, what's your question for? Jess?

1373
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 14: Long story short? I cheated on my fiance and I've

1374
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 14: found a GPS tracker in my car recently, and I

1375
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 14: don't know what to do.

1376
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: Stop cheating.

1377
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 12: That's what you got to stop doing, because that's why

1378
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 12: you How long you've been cheating? He's obviously been on

1379
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 12: to you for a while.

1380
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 3: How long?

1381
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 14: Yeah, he found out. I told him.

1382
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 8: I came cleanton.

1383
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 14: But we're trying to work on things.

1384
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 12: Trying to work on things. So you recently found the

1385
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 12: tracker after admitting that you were a cheater?

1386
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1387
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 7: Correct?

1388
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 12: Okay, So that tells me that he does not believe you.

1389
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 12: You know, he still does not trust that you are

1390
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 12: done cheating?

1391
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: Are you done?

1392
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 12: With cheating, no right, and you are question why you

1393
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 12: have a goddamn GPS tracker in your car and you're

1394
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 12: not done cheating?

1395
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: So why did you don't.

1396
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 10: Know what to do with the relationship?

1397
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 2: Oh you wanted to?

1398
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 12: Oh okay, baby, you gotta get up by if you

1399
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 12: want to live your life. And you you know, you

1400
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 12: you still feel like you got some some other things

1401
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 12: that you're you know, you don't want to cheat on

1402
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 12: the person, do you?

1403
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I don't know. Just leave him.

1404
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 12: Because you're obviously you're not happy. You're cheating for a reason,

1405
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 12: and he's not happy either.

1406
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 8: Though I do.

1407
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 12: And that's how it works. You always love the person

1408
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 12: that you cheat on, you know what I mean? You

1409
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 12: love them, but it's something that he's lacking that you

1410
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 12: can't get there right, something that he's doing that he's

1411
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 12: not doing that you really really wish that he would do.

1412
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 12: And although you don't want to leave him, you still

1413
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 12: find you know, you're still looking for something else and

1414
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 12: you're finding it out in the streets. And that's still

1415
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 12: are you married or this is your boyfriend.

1416
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 14: We're engaged and we bought a house the other eight

1417
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 14: years ago.

1418
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 12: So you ain't making it down at our girl. I

1419
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 12: know you love him, but damn you ain't even married

1420
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 12: and you're doing you cheating. I think you should just

1421
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 12: I think you should just revoke that whole engagement. Go

1422
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 12: and live your life.

1423
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: You forty six?

1424
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1425
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 12: Wrong, Okay, okay, she need to be Neo's fifth girlfriendes

1426
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 12: It is sounded like she needs she you you into

1427
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 12: the polye situation. I think that's what you need. You

1428
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 12: need somebody who's going to be comfortable with you doing

1429
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 12: these things. I know he already bought the ring, I understand,

1430
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 12: but would this be better that he found out after

1431
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 12: you married him or right now? I think it makes

1432
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 12: more sense that he found out now. And I think

1433
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 12: that you just need to look in the marriage. Just

1434
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 12: be honest with yourself. Marriage is not for you, especially

1435
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 12: not a committed marriage. It's not for you right now.

1436
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 12: I'm not saying forever, but that ain't something that that's

1437
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 12: for you right now, because you know you got to

1438
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 12: give him the choice. You know what I mean? Right now,

1439
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 12: you're not really giving him a choice. You know you

1440
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 12: want to lead them on and he marry you and

1441
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 12: you know you're still gonna cheat. I love your honesty.

1442
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 12: You're like, no, I ain't shooting yet, but you can't

1443
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 12: walk down.

1444
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 10: You know, I love you, reason like I'm not trying to.

1445
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 14: I mean, excuse me. Yeah, I want real advice. So

1446
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 14: just like I have to tell my therapist everything, Yeah,

1447
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 14: you can't help me if I lie or if I withhold.

1448
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's that's that shut. Apart from everybody else.

1449
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 12: People be calling up here, lying to me, leaving out

1450
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 12: parts of the story. I applaud your honesty, but you

1451
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 12: you cannot get married, and you have to tell him

1452
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 12: that you're not ready for marriage.

1453
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 14: But I'm the one that wants to get married and

1454
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 14: he doesn't. I mean he he's the one that's holding back.

1455
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 14: I mean, obviously he gave me a ring, which indicates

1456
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 14: he would want to marry me, but he could also

1457
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 14: just be leading me on leaden together ten years.

1458
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 12: Yep, you can't get married. The advice is still the same.

1459
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 12: I know you want to get married, but you're not ready.

1460
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 12: I'm telling you this ain't about him no more, it's

1461
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 12: about you. You're not ready to get married. You're not

1462
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 12: because you're not finished playing the field, you know what

1463
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 12: I mean. And that's totally fine. But you gotta do

1464
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 12: that single. You know he already got trust issues. You

1465
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 12: found a GPS tracker. That is scary. It's scary as hell.

1466
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 12: But what's also but what's also scary as being engaged

1467
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 12: to somebody that keeps cheating. It's it's crazy, and it's

1468
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 12: scary knowing that I have to track my woman because

1469
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 12: I'm afraid that she ain't gonna never stop cheating. I

1470
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 12: know she's doing something and we ain't even make it

1471
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 12: down the aisle yet. So yes, while marriage is something

1472
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 12: that you want, that's a little further down.

1473
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 2: The line for you both.

1474
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 12: Thank you, You welcome, babes.

1475
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: Go love mama, Just fix my madam saying and you

1476
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: want an amble road to stop the sluatwalk, Okay.

1477
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 16: You want her to stop.

1478
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: She wanted to stop.

1479
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 3: Because to her, lady needs something to do.

1480
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: I didn't wanted to stop.

1481
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 12: I just felt like it was complete contradictory why she stopped?

1482
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 4: Eight hundred five eight five five on just fix My

1483
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 4: messes the Breakfast Club, God, Morning Wanning, everybody, It's DJ

1484
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 4: n V, Jess, Larry Charlamagne, the God all the Breakfast Club,

1485
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 4: Just fix my mess We have shared on a lot right, Cherry, Oh, Sherry,

1486
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, take us off bluetooth for.

1487
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 2: Speaker, Cherry Chevyry Erry, what's question that?

1488
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 10: Brooklyn's tune?

1489
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 6: Look and beyond a playing time, it's gonna what's good

1490
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 6: your morning?

1491
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 12: I don't want to class shot a Clyde definitely.

1492
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 2: It's five o'clock somewhere. You'll all right, Jack, So I

1493
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 2: want you to fix my message?

1494
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 16: What's that?

1495
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 5: Baby? What you got? All right?

1496
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 7: I got this X right now.

1497
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 6: We went together for like two years, and then we

1498
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 6: were still together physically for two years after we had

1499
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 6: broke up. But in those two years we broke up,

1500
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 6: he was with another person.

1501
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 10: Living with her, engaged to her. I don't care about that.

1502
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 2: I trained that meet myself, you feel me, So it

1503
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: was kind of hard for me to leave that alone

1504
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: all it.

1505
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 6: So whatever we broke up for, you know, trying to

1506
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 6: train somebody else from scratches kind of but I attempted.

1507
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: And when our attempted, they was just terrible, back to back.

1508
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 10: And I'm like, I'm not catching all these frogs till

1509
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 10: I get a prince.

1510
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 6: You feel me like some of them is just told

1511
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 6: And so I just want to know what I should

1512
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 6: do girl, cause you know that that meets forever man?

1513
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: Or should I let this girl have her fiance.

1514
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 10: Like they gonna be married and all that.

1515
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 12: I know, I know, but this is the thing because

1516
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 12: I think I want to tell you to go ahead

1517
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 12: and pursue him, because that should actually train that meet

1518
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 12: and all of that.

1519
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 3: I get that.

1520
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 12: But if he's about to walk down the aisle with

1521
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 12: another shorty and he just you know, at this point,

1522
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 12: he's just using you for the convenience, he is.

1523
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 6: Not using when I'm the one initiating, I hit him up, like,

1524
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 6: I know y'all got whatever y'all got going on, but

1525
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 6: you're busy today because I need something real quick, you

1526
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 6: feel me.

1527
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 10: But I'm gonna know, like, well, I don't.

1528
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 12: Think you got anything to even worry about because one

1529
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 12: shorty get a you know, get away this. She ain't

1530
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 12: walking down the aisle, so you're gonna have him, believe

1531
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 12: it or not.

1532
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 10: You know that's the thing.

1533
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't never want him back.

1534
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 6: I want that, And that's why I let him have

1535
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 6: this fiance, because you know, let that girl deal with

1536
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 6: the headache.

1537
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: I just feel me.

1538
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 10: I just want to know should I keep doing that?

1539
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: Should I be abstine, like, what should I do?

1540
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 13: Dad?

1541
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:09,479
Speaker 5: No, I don't.

1542
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 12: Yes, it's so much meat out here.

1543
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 2: I think.

1544
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,959
Speaker 12: You know, you train one dog, you can train another

1545
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 12: one is.

1546
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 2: Yes, it is, and when I tried it it was horrible. Yeah,

1547
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 2: let her have that.

1548
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 12: Uh, that's her headache now. And I think, like I said,

1549
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 12: you you're done. All you want is to meet.

1550
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 2: That's fine.

1551
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 12: Some things just run its course. You need to leave

1552
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 12: him alone, let him be married, let.

1553
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 2: Him figure it out.

1554
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 12: That ain't for him because obviously if he's still willingly

1555
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 12: cheating on his fiance, he ain't he walked on out yet,

1556
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 12: then that's that's something that he gonna keep doing. You

1557
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 12: ain't even got to be a casualty of that. I

1558
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 12: know you initiating and all that, But would you want

1559
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 12: your man, your your fiance to do the same thing

1560
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 12: to you?

1561
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 3: I don't exactly.

1562
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 12: And what's going to come a time where somebody's gonna

1563
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 12: put a ring on your finger, miss ma'am, because if

1564
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 12: you training meet and all that.

1565
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 8: Yes, I believe God again, jets, I think he can't

1566
01:06:59,440 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 8: hear you.

1567
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 4: So I want you to lead at along just where

1568
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 4: you think she's from, I say, Brooklyn, She definitely from

1569
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 4: New York.

1570
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 12: I don't even know that the barrels or whatever, but

1571
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 12: she definitely from New York.

1572
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: I smelled Brooklyn, but I'm sorry I smelled Brooklyn, but

1573
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: I think this is the Bronx. Yeah, yeah, smell Brooklyn.

1574
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 12: They gotta smell good luck and training that D the

1575
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 12: meat what you call it, that's right, says.

1576
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 3: You got to stop repeating things just because you hear people.

1577
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: Saying I just like it sound. I said, you got

1578
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 2: said good luck with trading the D. She ain't never

1579
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 2: say she trained the di. She said, I trained that meat.

1580
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 3: But you ain't hear you in the background that.

1581
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 2: I did not say that. You did you want to

1582
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 2: be with the girl? I saved you. Goodbye, Thank you.

1583
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 4: Sherry Druggish, Oh my gosh, all right, just the Breakfast

1584
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 4: Local Morning, the Breakfast Club.

1585
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 2: Mourning.

1586
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 4: Everybody is dj NV just hilarious, Charlamagne the God. We

1587
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 4: are the Breakfast Club. Now if you're just joining us

1588
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 4: during get it off your chest. A gentleman called in

1589
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 4: and said he was having a problem with his relationship

1590
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 4: and this was bothering him.

1591
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: So let's listen.

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01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 8: First thing, I just want to get this on a

1593
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 8: check I can't say that to my girl, so I'm gonna.

1594
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 10: Just say it to y'all.

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01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 8: I hate my girl. Dogs, Okay, I don't know how

1596
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 8: okay to ah the dog people out there.

1597
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 12: I don't know how y'all deal with.

1598
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 8: Dogs running all around y'all house and doget everywhere. But

1599
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 8: just about to make me say, hey, I can't do

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01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 8: it no more. I had a dream about the dolls

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01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 8: last night.

1602
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 3: Did you and your wife have a conversation? Did you

1603
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 3: tell her how you feel?

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01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, we had one a.

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01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 8: Few months ago, and that now do a bigger argument.

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01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: So I ain't trying to go there no more.

1607
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 4: So we're asking eight hundred five eight five one five one,

1608
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:55,440
Speaker 4: what's your relationship?

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01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 5: Pet? Peeve?

1610
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: Let's start with you, Jess.

1611
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 12: All right, when you don't have no fault in your

1612
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 12: mother's wall, see you involved in your business, because then

1613
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 12: it leaks over into our business. When you want to

1614
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 12: take you on a date, but ask you where you

1615
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 12: want to go, excuse me, if you want to take

1616
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 12: me on a date, plan the date.

1617
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: I don't like a nigga.

1618
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 12: That'd be like like, plan the date, learn me you

1619
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 12: know what I like? If you don't like the East

1620
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 12: steak We are you gonna take me? Not out big,

1621
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 12: but where are you gonna take me? You know what

1622
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 12: I'm saying, I don't like that.

1623
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: Well, he can't.

1624
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 3: Like couples.

1625
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 4: Talk about your man can fix some other problem, like

1626
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 4: they can't if they take with their mom, they can't

1627
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 4: fix that.

1628
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 13: No, no, no, no no.

1629
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: And sometimes if I take you to a restaurant, then

1630
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: you'll be like, why we go to this restaurant? Why

1631
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: do we not go to restaurant? So what are you

1632
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 2: feeling for today? Baby?

1633
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 5: No?

1634
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 12: No, no, no, it's a date. It's all in the place.

1635
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 12: Take the initiative to be like, you know what, I'm

1636
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 12: gonna take her here?

1637
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 5: You know.

1638
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 12: And the reason why I say, you know, no out

1639
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 12: bext I'm not talking about like because the price of

1640
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 12: it and you know the tear that it's on. I'm

1641
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 12: talking about because it has steak in the name, just

1642
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 12: because it got steak in the name.

1643
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 2: Don't don't do that out back steakhouse.

1644
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 5: Don't do that.

1645
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 3: You are hard to please though.

1646
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 5: You don't like nothing.

1647
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 12: I mean, you don't eat nothing, so it's kind of

1648
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 12: hard to go anywhere and enjoy myself. Okay, but no, no,

1649
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 12: it's about the dad like it starts with the day.

1650
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 12: If your dad not already like not in your life,

1651
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 12: that that push you close to your mother. Then your

1652
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 12: mother feel like she's dating you, so she got to

1653
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 12: be in your relationships.

1654
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 2: I ain't with none of it.

1655
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 12: So but no, no, I'm not talking about Chris, not

1656
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 12: talking about you, baby.

1657
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

1658
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 5: People?

1659
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 2: Relationship? Got people? This is I mean, I don't have

1660
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 2: these problems now, Okay, Well mine is leeless.

1661
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 4: My wife is always late. I'm talking to you, gain

1662
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 4: like you said about Chris, I'm talking to you. My

1663
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 4: wife is always late, okay, to the point where I

1664
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 4: have to lie about the time. So if you have

1665
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 4: a party at nine, I gotta tell the parties at

1666
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 4: eight and we still go get that nine.

1667
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 2: Thirty ten o'clock.

1668
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 3: It is what it is.

1669
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 4: But the problem, the problem I have is she'd be late,

1670
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 4: and then when I'm downstairs watching the TV, wait want

1671
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 4: you like, let's go to Scoll, Let's go scol Let's.

1672
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: Go now wait on you? Now we'aiting on you. I

1673
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 2: hate that. So you always on time? Yeah, I'm always

1674
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 2: on time.

1675
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 12: So you're not black?

1676
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 2: What's your.

1677
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 3: Not answering the phone?

1678
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: You know, my wife and I have different phone habits,

1679
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: Like my phone is usually on me or near me,

1680
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 1: so I'm quick to answer if I want to answer

1681
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: for the person. But she doesn't literally walking around with

1682
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: her phone on her. But my thing is, that's cool.

1683
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: When everybody is home, like when I'm home and all

1684
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: the kids home, none of us need to really be

1685
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: near our phones because even the parents know the house

1686
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: phone and stuff like that. But when everybody isn't home,

1687
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 1: keep your phone on you because you never know what

1688
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm calling and why I'm calling. Keep your phone on you,

1689
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: So not answering the phone. That's my my pet peek.

1690
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's go to the phone lines.

1691
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 4: Hello, who's this, Yes, sir, good morning from Andy.

1692
01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: What's up?

1693
01:11:58,360 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 8: Brother?

1694
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 2: What's your pet? Peeve? In a relationship, it's two.

1695
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 5: Of them, man.

1696
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 9: One of them is a woman that doesn't have a relationship.

1697
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 9: You sound like corny for the relationship, God, And the

1698
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 9: second one don't sound kind of dang And I can't

1699
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 9: say the woman that don't work out, she gotta be active.

1700
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 12: Okay, Well you don't sound just just for the record,

1701
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 12: you don't sound corny wanting a woman that has a

1702
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 12: relationship with God.

1703
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 2: That's not corny, that's a good that's a good one.

1704
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 9: But that sounds cliche though. It sounds cliche to say,

1705
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 9: but it's so unfairtive that you have a relationship. But

1706
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 9: just as important, I need her active because I can't

1707
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 9: be looking halfway deeply A big body.

1708
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: You don't want, no big bats, no big bag.

1709
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: I think, God, what does what does she see? That's

1710
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: what she need to be praying to God to lose

1711
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: that weight. Yeah, you don't believe in God?

1712
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: Hello, who's this maya maya? Good morning? What's a pet

1713
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 2: peeve in a relationship for you?

1714
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 7: I've been with my husband for ten years today, and

1715
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 7: he's flobbers and snores riverd ooh. And I'm a light sleeper,

1716
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 7: like I can hear a pin drop like little. He

1717
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 7: holds me up from some time. But he comes to

1718
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 7: bed like two fiir o'clock in the morning most of

1719
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 7: the time because he's not playing the game. But once

1720
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 7: he comes to bed, it's like I can't, I can't

1721
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 7: go back to sleep.

1722
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: Yea, what the hell?

1723
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 5: Why the hell?

1724
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 3: Either one of y'all ain't got no jobs. Y'all got

1725
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 3: to get up there in the morning. Why he get

1726
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 3: to go to bed at three o'clock in the morning.

1727
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: What's up, baby?

1728
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 7: We do. We worked out with the schedules because our

1729
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 7: kids aren't in daycare.

1730
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 3: Okay, so what's got you?

1731
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 5: Okay?

1732
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 2: I feel bad, you know, because you know, snarts a

1733
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 2: lot of times. You can't fix that. That's like, yeah,

1734
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: sometimes medical problematical problem. He don't do that on purpose.

1735
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 7: Man, Listen, I ain't never seen nobody snoring laying on

1736
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 7: a belly like this. This is a great dang.

1737
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 2: You don't nudge him, you know, push him there so

1738
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 2: he wake up a little bit.

1739
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 7: I do all night. I'm kicking.

1740
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm hicking.

1741
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 13: I'm like.

1742
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 12: And she says, slop material probably stank billows price.

1743
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 9: Yay.

1744
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, won't you get something like an air plugs or something?

1745
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,879
Speaker 2: Word and we got fodcast?

1746
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 7: Go ahead, All five of them kids blobber. It's crazy.

1747
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta leave that family.

1748
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: Baby.

1749
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, no, I'm joking you the better

1750
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 2: for worse though you said it.

1751
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 5: That's right.

1752
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 4: I'm Floyd eight hundred five eight five one oh five one.

1753
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 4: We're asking what's a pet peeve in your relationship? Let's

1754
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 4: discuss it's the breakfast Club.

1755
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 2: Good morning, morning everybody. It's DJ nv Jess Hilarious, CHARLAMAGNEA

1756
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: Gud We are the Breakfast Club. Now you got a

1757
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 2: positive note?

1758
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: I do, but I want to tell people. First of all, man,

1759
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: make sure you go get your tickets for the third

1760
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: Annual Black Effect Podcast Festival, happening Saturday April twenty six

1761
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: at Pullman Yards in Atlanta, Georgia.

1762
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Speaker 3: Yes, it is year three of an unforgettable.

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Speaker 1: Day of live podcast, inspiring conversations and cultural celebration podcast

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Speaker 1: Culture Celebration.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: It's hosted by Mandy and Weezy of Decisions Decisions. We

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Speaker 1: got the Trap Nerds podcast there for the gamers. Good

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Speaker 1: Mom's Bad Choices is gonna be there, Carrie Champions gonna

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Speaker 1: be there with her next sports podcast, Tank and Jay

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Speaker 1: Valentine will be there doing the R and B Money

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Speaker 1: Podcast live, and Sarah Jakes Roberts will be there doing

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Speaker 1: the Woman of Alved podcast live. So go get your

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Speaker 1: tickets right now at Black Effect dot Com Slash Podcast Festival. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Saturday April twenty six, third Annual Black Effect Podcast Festival Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you there, and a positive notice

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Speaker 1: simply this remember that.

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Speaker 3: Emotion can be the enemy.

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Speaker 1: If you give it to your emotion, you sometimes lose

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Speaker 1: yourself when anger rises. Think of the consequences and never

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Speaker 1: make a permanent decision based on a temporary emotion.

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Speaker 3: Have a blessed breakfast club, bitches, do you yn'na finish

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Speaker 3: or y'all done?