1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sandy and Samantha and welcome to Steffan. 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: I never told your prediction if I heard you. 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: And today for Tom in this movie Friday, we are 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: going to jump into a Sam's classic. Guess I'm titling 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: my own uh one. We've been talking about so with 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: all of the talks of competition, but the fact that 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: the Olympics has ended and the Paralympics I was about 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: to start, We're going to jump into bring it on 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: for this movie this month. And yes it's competitive. If 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: you've ever been in the world of cheerleading, which I have, 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: we were not good. I will say that, like I 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: would never place in any competitions ever. I barely could 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: get off the ground. My strengths were dancing, being loud, 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: and able to pick people up. I did injure my 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: back a lot because I've tossed a lot of people. 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: I was a base as they would call it, and 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: not a flyer. So I think by the time I left, 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: I went to a chiropractor in a very stressful job, 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: finished college, you know, went through a very stressful job, 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: went to a chiropractor. They're like, you're back, what happened? 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: And I was like yeah, They're like, do you do sports? 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: What did you do? And I was like, I did cheerleading. 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: He was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm guessing you were 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: the base because the way you are like, yeah, okay, 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: so it's leg like I got some injuries and if 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: you watch the competitive level, it's intense. 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it is very intense. 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: I didn't want to ask you about your cheerleading experience 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: because I never did it. 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was watching this like is this what it's. 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: Like because we are from a small town. I am 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: from a small town. We did not have male cheerleaders 33 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: at the time, and it was, even though in the movie, 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: is very looked down on. Also even more so when 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: you're in a small town and cheerleader, not a big 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: athletics as it could be. And of course the debate 37 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: still goes back to whether cheerleading is a sport. All 38 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: those conversations happen. What's funny is our my quarterback at 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: the time. Again, our football team was not good when 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: I was there. Apparently there was a better one later on, 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: but we were not we were good. But he went 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: on to become a cheerleader at UGA or University of 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: Georgia because Obviously he didn't make it as a football player, 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: but because of the intensity and the level of like 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: challenge and sportsmanship, he went into that instead and I 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: think he did pretty well until he left. But whatever. 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: But all that to say is, yes, it's intense. If 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: you're truly like doing it for competition levels, you can 49 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: get scholarships. Sometimes not a lot of it hasn't gotten international. 50 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been watching my TikTok, has 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: all of a sudden gotten like cheerleaders from South Korea, 52 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: which legitimately you see them putting on makeup or doing 53 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: something completely like they're so removed from whatever game it is, 54 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden they have a music 55 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: and they do like two step moves that are so 56 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: like trivial that you're like, what what is? It's quite funny. 57 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: And then you have things like the Texas cheerleaders. The 58 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: Cowboys were really really big and they did some big 59 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: performances and they had to go through the ringer to 60 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: audition and they get paid nothing, nothing. So it's kind 61 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: of like a whole thing. But all those controversies aside, 62 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: all those opinions aside, we're talking about bringing on which 63 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: I actually did a pretty good job in representing I 64 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: think like the depth of athleticism that needs to be involved. 65 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: I don't love their cheer routines. And this is when 66 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: I graduated high school, y'all, because I was like, this 67 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: is not this is not what this sounds like. That 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: is so goofy, and like like we had to sound 69 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: we have the person who had the deepest, loudest voice 70 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: was able to carry the squad. So that was the 71 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 2: difference that I'm like, Okay, they kind of do mock 72 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: the whole cheerleading portion a little bit too much, although 73 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: I think when the Clovers did it, they did a 74 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: better job in representing what it sounded like and like 75 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: what it should be sounding like. Personal opinion maybe, but anyway, Yes, 76 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: So we are talking about the original release of Bring 77 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: It On, which was in two thousand. It came out 78 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: in two thousand. We had this whole debate because apparently, yeah, 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: we're just bringing all my era of movie which are 80 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: now classics. So yes, twenty four years ago, and it 81 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 2: has had several sequels in additions to the series, all 82 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: apparently direct to video. I didn't know that. I was like, no, 83 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: that that kind of makes sense, and you'll see some 84 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: big names in there if you look for them. I 85 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: believe again, in total about six of them. I didn't 86 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: realize there that many. I thought there was Manbe too, 87 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: with a musical that was actually co written by Lynn Miranda, 88 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: so he was a part of this whole thing. So hey, hey, 89 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: I've never seen it. I've never heard clips of it. 90 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: So if you have, let us know. I want to 91 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: know about this. How did they translate this? Is it 92 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: like you know, stomp like? I would imagine it's something 93 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: along those lines, but who knows. So the movie was 94 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: directed by Peyton Read and written by Jessica Bendinger, who 95 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: also wrote an episode of Sex and the City. I 96 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: love this little trivias. She recently actually like asked for 97 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: the twentyth anniversary, wrote a book about it as well, 98 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: so she went on a little tour. I'm not sure 99 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: what's in that book, but something about along the lines 100 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: of like, after a certain amount of time, you can 101 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: release a script and that's your property, all these things. 102 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: So she decided to take the extra step and make 103 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: it a book, and I believe it's fairly successful, and I, 104 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: again I have not read it, So if you have, 105 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 2: let me know what's about. I have no idea. If 106 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: it's just the plot, I don't know. If it's like 107 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: a making of who knows. I guess I could research that. 108 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: I didn't go that far anyway, So let's jump into 109 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: the plot. I feel like we probably should put this caveat. 110 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: It is a two thousand movie, did not age really well. 111 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: There's a lot of parts you're like, what theF So 112 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: go ahead and put that in there. It is one 113 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: of those teenage comedies that were like highbrow, lowbrew both 114 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: I think all in one. And of course you have 115 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: Kirsten Dunce, who was the Queen at that point in time. 116 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: She was making some big movies, including like Virgin Suicides 117 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: and all of that, so you know we know who 118 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: Kirsten Dune is. So jumping into plot again, we have 119 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: an opener heard around the world probably what was so funny? 120 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: Annie is like, right as we were talking about we're 121 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: going to do this, I saw La called Touristas, who 122 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: is a podcast on our network, doing the entire your 123 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: chair number of the opener for UH for this movie, 124 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: And I was like what. Because they were talking about 125 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: the fact that it influenced so many people and once 126 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: you start hearing it, you can't stop in the middle 127 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: of it. So apparently again the role call introducing the 128 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: cheer squad of the Ranchocarne Toros so it was led 129 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: by a newly made captain, Torrens Shipman, played again by 130 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: Kirsten Duns. The Toros cheerleading squad has been the national 131 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: champion for six consecutive years and the pride of their school. Literally, 132 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: the joke is they come to see the cheer squad, 133 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: not the football team, who are the worst. With some 134 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: big goals in Dreams and her boyfriend who by the way, 135 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: just left for college and her friends Torrence, as eager 136 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: to prove herself as the new leader. Unfortunately, being a 137 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: bit too eager, her practice leads to the injury of 138 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: one of her squad members, which leaves an opening that 139 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: needs to be filled immediately. We are soon introduced to 140 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: a transfer student, Missy Patone, played by Eliza Dushku, who 141 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: is not really interested in cheerleading, but more so in gymnasia, 142 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: but because the school does not offer that as an option, 143 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: she has opted for cheerleading squad. After an intense audition, 144 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 2: she makes it on a trial basis. Here we insert 145 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: typical homophobic rant due to her being quote unquote different 146 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: because you know, prep school versus everything else. With Missy 147 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: being the newbie, the squad goes on with their their practices, 148 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: which angers Missy, who walks out only to be chased 149 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: by Torrents, causing a small conflict here that leads to 150 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: a road trip to East Compton to see the Clovers 151 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: do their routine. Here we discover that all the original 152 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: that'son quotes materials the Toros have been using are actually 153 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: stolen from East Compton Clovers, and as they leave, they 154 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: are confronted by the Clovers, led by Isis played by 155 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: Gabrielle Union, who is accompanied by the hip hop group 156 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: Black and if you know what I'm talking about you 157 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: if you know from Alana, if you know like you 158 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: love TLC and Black came through as they are kind 159 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: of like their protege. I believe Left Eye was the 160 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: one that formed this group, which is really unfortunate because 161 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: the rapper and the one with the most attitude in 162 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: the movie also died later on in Tragic Accident. There's 163 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 2: so many things of like, oh, that's so sad. But anyway, 164 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: all that to say, we do get to see them. 165 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: They do a great job. They have a great song, 166 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 2: bring it All to Me, Oh Baby, bring it all 167 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: to Me anyway, and all of that. So if you know, 168 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: you know. And during this confrontation, we learned that the 169 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: former leader, big Red, had been coming to watch record 170 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: and steal all of their materials, which Torrens knew nothing 171 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: about at the time. Also, we find out that at 172 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: the previous cheer camp, Torrance had dropped the spirit stick, 173 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: and this is legitimate. There's a spirit stick. I went 174 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: to cheer camp. We had spirits sticks. I don't remember 175 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: if we won one. I think we did. I think 176 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: we all got one anyway, which is very bad luck. 177 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: And she thinks all this misfortunes are due to that 178 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 2: bad luck. So that's something that's in the back of 179 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: her head. But moving on, we also meet Missy's brother, 180 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: Cliff played by Jesse Bradford swim fan. I think people 181 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: know that movie if you're from my era. Moving on, 182 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: who also is a bit different and is obviously very 183 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: interested in Torren's and she's not sad about that. She's 184 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: not sad about that. In fact, she does some flirting 185 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: on her own or as the other cheerleaders called it 186 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: cheer sex jeers. I I am during the cheers again, 187 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: that's not a thing anyway. But with all of that 188 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: and some really awkward sexual assault that turns into a 189 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: joke that I'm like, what the is happening to prove 190 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: that not all male cheerleaders are gay, I guess. Anyway, 191 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: we have a bit of a cheer off as a 192 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: few of the clovers come through and though they had 193 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: gone originally gone against Torrens's suggestion about changing up the routine, 194 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: since they found out they were all stolen. After another vote, 195 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: they all decide to change the routine. And also we 196 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: found here that he's cheating because you know, you see 197 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: the girl in the bed whatever. Again, with the advice 198 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: from Aaron, Torrence decides to bring in a professional Sparky Pilastrie. 199 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: Also cue sexy sexist car wash fundraisers scene here. Soon 200 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: after some fat shaming and chaming of looks, Sparky teaches 201 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: the meaning of spirit fingers. These aren't spirit fingers, these 202 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: any are spirit fingers. She welcome and yes, I actually 203 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: did have to do those as well. Still, probably one 204 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: of the best lines, which is they learned this new 205 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: routine and they take that to the regionals, but oh 206 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: Sparky has been busy and turns out has been selling 207 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: the same routine to different cheered squads, which is illegal 208 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: against the rules, but fortunately for the Toros, they by 209 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: default get to go to the Nationals. After a grow 210 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: up glow up scene because she doesn't change her looks 211 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: but her attitude for Torrence, she who now has some backbone, 212 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: dumps her boyfriend in a very dramatic way and uses 213 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: the influences around her cue a montage of like backdated 214 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: old moves they decided to research as some karate moves 215 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: here are swing dancing, and they come through with a 216 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: new routine. Of course, it also includes a song from 217 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: Cliff which he had made a mixtape for her of 218 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: his original songs there You Go. At the same time, 219 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: the Clovers have also made it to Nationals and is 220 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: looking to get funded to go and having some troubles. 221 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: There's a scene in which Torrance finds out. So Torrence 222 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: decides to give them the money, which is all of 223 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: the other conversation, and you know, Isa's calls her out 224 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: saying this is guilt money because y'all know you are 225 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: in the wrong and you know towards is like, no, no, no, 226 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: it's just that we want to compete again the best 227 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: against the best, and you're the best. Blah blah blah. 228 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: All that to say they turned that down. But in 229 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: the end, the Clovers are able to get some sponsorship 230 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: from a celebrity or an on air personality who is 231 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: I think supposed to be like an Oprah to sponsor 232 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: their trips. So yeah, they get to go. Soon we 233 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 2: have the face off between the two, both showing some 234 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: strong routines, but in the end, the Clovers are able 235 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: to take the championship home with the Toros in second place. Also, yes, 236 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: Cliff and Torrens get together. End of story, And yes 237 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 2: we do have you know, Gabrielle's age bring it to Torrens. 238 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: So there you go. That is the artistry of bringing 239 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: on the original Annie. What did you think of this 240 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: classic movie? 241 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. 242 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: It was definitely for some reason, I thought I understood 243 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: what it would be and it was not what I 244 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: thought it was going to be. 245 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: I need to know what you thought it was going 246 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: to be. 247 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: I thought, I don't know. 248 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: I think because there's been so many sequels that I 249 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: did know about the sequels, and I also there's just 250 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: been a lot of talk about it because people love 251 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: it over the years. I just it was not quite 252 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: what I thought it was gonna be. I can't explain it, 253 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: but I did the songs I remember, especially my older 254 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: brother's name is Mickey, so you can imagine how that song. 255 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: Our household. But no, I liked it. 256 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: I thought it was fun and I liked that they 257 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: got second place at the end. I enjoyed that. I 258 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: thought it was a It was really enjoyable, and it 259 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: didn't go where I thought it was going to go 260 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: in a good way. 261 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: In a good way. Did you think that the Toros 262 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: would end up winning? 263 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I feel like if usually that's what happened. 264 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, Yes, yes, I think there's a lot of 265 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: conversation about, you know, is this a film that is 266 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: very problematic? How did they do well? Did they do 267 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: well and bring in black voices? Did they do well 268 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: in representing what it looked like? And I think they 269 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: did into a certain degree. I think in itself the 270 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: two thousands had a lot of privilege in there that 271 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: they really thought this type of attitude was okay. We 272 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: do have again, the toxic masculinity of the football players, 273 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: just going after the cheerleaders, specifically the male cheerleaders, and 274 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: one of them did, I think, allude to the fact 275 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: that he was gay. He seemed to have found his 276 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: match at the cheer competition, while the other was like 277 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: trying too hard to prove that he is straight. Also problematic. 278 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, so I guess these are not necessarily themes 279 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: as much as like the environment. I don't know what 280 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: we're talking about, kind of talking about like high school, 281 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: and I know it can be a theme in that 282 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: there's so much when it comes to high school. And 283 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: a lot of these films that were successful at the 284 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: time were based on teenage life. A lot of these shows, 285 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: I guess they still are. I'm thinking about it, but 286 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: I guess I just don't pay attention as much. But 287 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: during that time, you know, classics like Bringing On were 288 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: making big hits. We've talked about ten Things I Hate 289 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: about You were making big hits at that time, really 290 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: bringing in like ideal of high school culture and how 291 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: real or unreal it is. We looked at things like 292 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: Wintree Hill, Dawson's Creek, all of those had that similar names. Buffy, 293 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: the Vampires, layer. It's the coming of age before college, 294 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: which I think is really really interesting because when they 295 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: hit college, it doesn't get the shows aren't successful. Yeah, 296 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: you think about it, Saved by the Bell, same thing. 297 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: They try to take it to college. It wasn't that 298 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: successful anyway. I don't know, Wow, that's on in my head. 299 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: But at high school, we have senior year, which is 300 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 2: the climactic year for every young person because a lot 301 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: of decisions. 302 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: Have to be made. 303 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: It can make or break you. There's so many things 304 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: in the end that you're so overwhelmed by, whether it's 305 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: trying to get out of the house or wanting to 306 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: stay in the house, or figuring it out if you 307 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: have the money to get out of the house, what 308 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: you can do, how long you can go, who to trust, 309 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: who to go with, all of these things. So you 310 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: have all of that, but it's also the year that 311 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: you're the top. And this is kind of that level 312 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,239 Speaker 2: of conversation to be at the top. What is your 313 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: senior year? 314 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: Like I got the worst case of senior itis, and 315 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: I would never have believed I would have. 316 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 3: I was a very. 317 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: Honors club like, I was very alays, you know, but 318 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: I got the worst case of senioritis, and I would 319 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: sit in my car in the parking lot and just 320 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: imagine and driving away and never coming back. And it 321 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: was bizarre, Like I don't know where it came from. 322 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: I think I just knew things were coming to an end, 323 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: that was gonna have to make these decisions. I didn't 324 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: feel because when you're a freshman, I remember feeling like 325 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: seniors are so cool. Yeah, I didn't feel that way. 326 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: I felt tired and like, just don't look at me. 327 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: This is so depressing. I mean, yeah, I was tired, 328 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: all right. I didn't I wanted it to be over, 329 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: but I also didn't know what else to do. 330 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: Right, I think for me, like I had big dreams 331 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: with big colleges, but realizing that my family didn't make 332 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: money like that, so I couldn't go to private colleges, 333 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: so working to get little scholarships here and there, knowing 334 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: that I was at the top. I wasn't the worst. 335 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: I think I was on the top twenty, but I 336 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: was just like not gonna get all of the good 337 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: good stuff, Like I was able to get Hope, which 338 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: my decade around my time with the Hope A scholarship 339 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: was just coming out and it was still had money. 340 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: And for those of you who don't know, in the 341 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: State of Georgia, Hope Scholarship is a grant for students 342 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: with a certain GPAH to get to go to college 343 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: and it usually covers most of the tuition for a 344 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: state in Georgia. In the State of Georgia, yeah, for 345 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: the state college in Georgia, And it started in nineteen 346 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: ninety three, and it was a huge, big deal. It 347 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: helps so many people, obviously, to get to college. It 348 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: has changed because so many people were able to get 349 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: that that they did not have enough money, which is 350 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: kind of odd because we sure have millions and millions 351 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: and millions and millions and dollars being spent in lottery 352 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: but whatever, and lots of money for the roadwork. To 353 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: be fair any it needs help. But all that to 354 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 2: say so, these were opportunities, and so for me it 355 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: was a lot of like looking at this and trying 356 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: to see what was realistic or really really really wanted 357 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: to be higher, like I'm all about that reputation. I 358 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: guess like I still probably have that feeling to look good. 359 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: And so going to a state college and not a 360 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: community college was important to me, which is really really 361 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: odd as like looking back, like an educations and educations 362 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: and education, like no one cares really unless you're doing 363 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: something real affluent in jobs. I was a social worker. 364 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: No one gave it as long as I had a 365 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: degree like then it didn't even have to be a 366 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: social work degree close close to you have any humanities great, 367 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: go for that anyway. But for some reason during that time, 368 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 2: I really needed to do this. I needed to be 369 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: like a part of the workforce. I had that whole 370 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: doing half the day where I went to work because 371 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: making money was important. My parents, as much as they 372 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: could provide for me, they couldn't provide everything for me. 373 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: I had to pay my own car. I had to 374 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: pay like all these things was all me going to college. 375 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: I was gonna pay for everything everything, like they weren't 376 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: covering anything. So I had to do make sure that 377 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 2: it was all that. But still really excited about leaving. 378 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: But I feel like senior year was all about establishing 379 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 2: the groundworks to leave, and so that had like the 380 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: clubs and going to work and saving up money and 381 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: doing these things, even though I didn't do a good 382 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: job of saving money in the end. But senior year 383 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: is a whole big deal, and so I think that's 384 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: why a lot of these movies focus on that. Obviously, 385 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: for Torrens, she was going to be captain, so it 386 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: was a big, big deal of a national champion. Again, 387 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: you can get good money in some of these things, 388 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: and if you go to school where they have chearing squads, 389 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: that will fund you. Big deal, a big deal. I 390 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: think it turns out that a lot of the smaller 391 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 2: schools do have better cheering squads. From what I gather, 392 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: I know a lot of like the smaller schools, not 393 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: the big big schools, but like accredited smaller schools do. 394 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: But well for band too, for band people who wont 395 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 2: due scholarship any you know about that life. 396 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: That was not the case for us, but I believe 397 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: it's true. We had thirty members in our band, including 398 00:21:54,680 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: the color guard. And I will say once that made 399 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: me laugh in this is when they're coming up with 400 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: their routine one year in band. We did that because 401 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: normally you can like purchase a just it's basically like 402 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: a spreadsheet kind of thing, mutually complicated, but yeah, there's 403 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: x's and it shows you how to move and. 404 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 3: Anyway you can purchase that. But for some reason. 405 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 1: My freshman year, one of the seniors designed it and 406 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: it was a mess. It was a mess. There was 407 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: one part where I believe we had to go thirty 408 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: yards and ten steps, so you're taking like the biggest 409 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: steps you've ever taken. Yeah, and there were brooms on 410 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: the field because it was a fantasia based so people 411 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: were tripping on the broom. 412 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 3: Was disastrous. 413 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: And then he accidentally bought the music rights the band 414 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: music rights for can you Feel the Love Tonight? Fine song, 415 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: but when you're at like a football halftime show, all 416 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're playing like this slow. 417 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: It's amazing. I will say for our school, I think 418 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: we probably were revolved. We didn't, but we should have 419 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: around our band because they were good. They did make 420 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 2: it to finals, and they did make it to Nationals, 421 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: and they did make it to like Ireland, like they 422 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: went there to do perform. They're invited to perform there. 423 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: So my niece shout out. She was a drum major 424 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: or I guess the field conductor, the lead of her 425 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: senior year, so she was the big deal and they 426 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: were intense. They came out they started practicing in like 427 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: July preseason and heat and kept going, so she was 428 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: vest I will say that. And they were good. Like 429 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: I said, they traveled. I know a lot of people 430 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: who Mississippi Jackson College pays a lot of money for 431 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: band members, so I think they're one of the higher 432 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: ranking ones. And it's not like a major major player 433 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 2: when it comes to like football or basketball, I'm gonna 434 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: yelled at but any of those things. But that was 435 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: a big deal. H So even though so much like 436 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: this movie, football would be what you think of when 437 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: you think of in high school sports, I think of 438 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: especially when you were thinking like Friday night lights or 439 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 2: in the South or any of these things. It was 440 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: a big deal. Our basketball team was okay. No one 441 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: really cared no offense, baseball, no one really cared, and 442 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: I think we had a pretty good baseball team. Softball team. 443 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: No one really cared, tennis, no one really cared cross country, 444 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: no one really cared. Football. They still paid attention to 445 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: even though we weren't that good, but they wanted to 446 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: be good, so they started to bring more people on. 447 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: But our band was always on it. So I feel 448 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 2: like that should have been the in there a movie. 449 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yes, kind of like drumline. 450 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 2: Drum line that college that's a college version. 451 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: I thought, yes, but there's plenty because I've always thought 452 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: after yeah, band camp is the drama. 453 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 3: The drama, there's a lot of drama. Yes, there is. 454 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: My sister was in color guard, so she would tell 455 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: me things only all our hoes, I will say. 456 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: Our marching band in our defense was really we like 457 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: did go to competitions, and we did win sometimes, but 458 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: we were so tiny that that first year, the freshman 459 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: year was it. 460 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: That was a mess. 461 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: We never had someone do a student to the choreography again. 462 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: Never well, I mean we kind of talked about all 463 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 2: of these things, and of course, like friendships and frenemies, 464 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: I found out had frenemies. It's hard. Like the whole 465 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: uh like social setup of the cheer crew with the 466 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: two Whitney and Courtney. 467 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: Yeah who I. 468 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: Mean girls, but they loved each other and their sister 469 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: like I'll give them back. 470 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: Their sister there quite young really for doing this stay 471 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: basically when they're holding these tryouts, Courtney and Whitney, who 472 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: were on the other side of Torrents, who are always 473 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: of like trying to get power over the squad, like 474 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: it's definitely going. 475 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: To be Jordan, who is Courtney's one of their younger sisters. 476 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Jordan comes out and she just looks 477 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: so young and she's just not that into it. 478 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they want her to be in it, really 479 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: really really, yes, they but yeah, that was really funny. 480 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: But they have the friends. Obviously, Missy and Torrance became 481 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: very close friends. They had both I believe Hunter and 482 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: Nathan who were good friends, and they were like kind 483 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: of cheered them on. It was lovely to see boyfriend 484 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: drama as we saw him cheating immediately. I love the 485 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: fact that she was like giving him the you know, 486 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: the back, the back withou how he had treated her 487 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 2: very very condescendingly. But then the girl dumps them. She's like, 488 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: you're chere a cheerleader. Such a weird thing. But anyway, 489 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: but then we have obviously the competition for being the 490 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: captain and again Whitney and Courtney trying to vibe for 491 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: that and trying to take that role back, the fact 492 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: that Big Red came in very unhappy and didn't seem 493 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: she did anything wrong and her mistake was appointing towards 494 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: the leadership. She was very unhappy with that. Then we've 495 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: got the obviously cheerleading in general, the cheerleading is a sport. 496 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: We already kind of have this conversation. Did you ever 497 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: watch Cheer on Netflix, which is now marred and ruined 498 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: because of all of the accusations that came after the fact. 499 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: One dude was unfortunately he was like the underdog and 500 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: everybody loved him. And then it turns out that he 501 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: had been messaging young kids. And not only that, I 502 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 2: think he actually met up with a couple I can't remember. 503 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: He would a trial and it. 504 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 3: Was not good. Well, no, I did not see that. 505 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, But anyway, but if you had watched that, I 506 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 2: have like a lot of reservations when it comes to 507 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 2: like watching things competitions like that. This specifically based in 508 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: Texas and based in like very rigid ideology, but it 509 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: was it was inspiring to see like the levels that 510 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 2: were trying to go to get to these points to 511 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: be able to cheer, to be able to be a 512 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: part of the sport. It is it's pretty rigorous if 513 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 2: they take it seriously on what you have to do 514 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 2: and how like morality is all of that that. Unfortunately, 515 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: morality can coincide with Christianity and a lot of these places, 516 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 2: so you know, but they didn't seem like because it 517 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 2: was obvious, and they did talk about the fact that 518 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: the LGBTQ community was a big part of this as well, 519 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: like not only yes, it's for both, but like it 520 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: has to be welcoming to the entirety of the marginalized 521 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: community or you're going to be missing a big chunk 522 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: of good competitors. So all of that it's interesting to watch, 523 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: and again the still conversation about whether or not it's 524 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: a sport. I was thinking about this, especially with the 525 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: Olympics because breaking just happened. There's a lot of controversy 526 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: within there, and I think we are going to talk 527 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: about it. We do want to talk about it. But 528 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: then wh I'm talking about gymnastics, and there's a lot 529 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: of controversy right now happening with a lot of the 530 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: things that happened. But I wondered if they could do 531 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: something like cheerleading, and I know that's not internationals, especially 532 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: to this competitive level, but making it into like a 533 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: team gymnastics sport, I think that would be interesting. 534 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 535 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, Missy when she showed up, 536 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: that's what she was why she was auditioning for cheerleading 537 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: was she was a gymnast in this school didn't have gymnastics. 538 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: And then they're like, do all of these jumps and 539 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: tucks and whatever, and she just does them. Yeah, which 540 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: I was always impressed by when I would see people 541 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: do cheerleading, even in my high school. They would do 542 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: those like flips and like, wow, you just know how 543 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: to do okay. 544 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: And I was in gymnastics. 545 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not know how to do those, and 546 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: I could knock get off the ground. So my little 547 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: dumpling legs stayed on those dumplings side. My jumps, even 548 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: though I'm flexible, I could not get off the ground 549 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: to do the jumps. My toe touches were sad. I 550 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: ended up in a squat like I would land in 551 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: a squat, Like why, but I mean I touched my toes. 552 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: But there's that. There were my favorite. They are the easiest. 553 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: I have no idea what I'll show you one day. 554 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: No I won't because but yeah, like that competition conversation, 555 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: who was involved, Whether it is emasculating, but if you 556 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: watch the level of skill that you have to do, 557 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: and it is a lot of dangerous things, a lot 558 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: of people get so hurt again, Like it hurt my 559 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: back and neck for a long long time because of 560 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: the amount of like people which my back, like I 561 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: would toss around. I tossed a lot of people around. 562 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: But that is that level of conversation. How how is 563 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: it a spored like when you see and it can't 564 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: it can be enjoyable because the whole idea is like 565 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: cheering people on and cheering the team on all these 566 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: things and then it being mocked. Uh and then you 567 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: see you again. I'm gonna have to send you this 568 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: video any of the Korean cheerleaders again being very baffled. 569 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: They there's almost like a countdown about how many moves 570 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: there were. They're like, oh, they have three different moves. 571 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 3: Okay, cool, like. 572 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: But Korea doesn't really I don't know what their version 573 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: of cheer like this is. If this is their true 574 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: version of cheerleading. It's an interesting take. 575 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: Yes I haven't seen it, but that does sound interesting. 576 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna send you a video. Okay, I'm gonna send 577 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: you a video. And then, of course we can't go 578 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: off on this without talking about the racism that's not 579 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: really addressed, that's implied obviously, like you have the Clovers, 580 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: who are very diverse, and I saw that, like the 581 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: it wasn't just like an all black team or all 582 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: black and Latino team. It was a very diverse team 583 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: that had white people, Latina people, Asian people, and black 584 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: people in that mix. While you have the one Asian 585 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: person with the rest of the white people of the 586 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: Toros who have the funding, who drive the large jeeps, 587 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: who live in like the Posh area, and there's not 588 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: really conversation in that. We know that Clovers have never 589 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: gone to the Nationals, not because they couldn't make it, 590 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: but because they couldn't afford it, like they and then 591 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: their school did not see that as a benefit either. 592 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: They did not highlight even though they knew they were 593 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: one of the best in the cruise and when they watched, 594 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: they watched, But the school itself did not help fund 595 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: the trips, which is a conversation in itself, and we 596 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: see that a lot, like I think that's that whole 597 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: level when it comes to regions, in schools and districts 598 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: and the way they draw lines and who goes where 599 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: and who can afford what is very very very apparent. Again, 600 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: this is a two thousand film. Which does not address that. 601 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 2: It kind of implies that and you see it, but 602 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: then you move on and like the real world, like, yeah, 603 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: the best team should win in the in this case scenario, 604 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: the best team did win. However, is that the reality? 605 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: The fact that they were defaulted in immediately into the 606 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: Nationals because it had won the year before is odd 607 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: to me. I don't know if that's an actual rule. 608 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: So if those who have are part of this world 609 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: know this, tell me, or if that was just for 610 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: the plot line, Like that just seemed odd. 611 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I did see, like I saw. One 612 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: thing I noticed is that the touro's there, the letters 613 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: it's almost spills out rich Oh really yeah on their 614 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: cheering outfit it's. 615 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: R oh yeah. 616 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I did. 617 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: I read a lot about it in terms of, you know, 618 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: the whole thing is kind of kickstarted by this largely 619 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: white team has been stealing routines largely non white team 620 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: right to win and get this reputation all of this time, 621 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: and then having those moments around yes, Torren's trying to 622 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: pay for them to go because she feels guilty and 623 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: wants to make it right, and then being like no, 624 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: we're good we don't need to just a lot of 625 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: like you said, it's not ever directly addressed, but it 626 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: is nice. It's there, right, it's definitely there underlying. 627 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we can talk about that because we've 628 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: seen this in content creation. We've talked about when it 629 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: comes to like the dance routines. We've talked about this, 630 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: especially with music, like when we talk about K pop 631 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: specifically because I'm in that world, but we talk about 632 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: like who they are stealing from, and then the definition 633 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 2: of cultural appropriation versus appreciation, and that's rare, and then 634 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: outright stealing Kim Kardashian, Kendall Jenner, like they're at the 635 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: forefront of making so much money from stealing from other 636 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: other creators, and oftentimes it is marginalized people that they're 637 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: stealing from. And then they and I know that both 638 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: of them are people of color technically, but they're white 639 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: passing and have been able to kind of just bypass 640 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: all of that conversation until it's good for them, which 641 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: is that other conversation that we often talk about and 642 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 2: it's not addressed enough. But yeah, in this one specifically, 643 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: we're talking about I don't feel like there was any 644 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: there wasn't. There was no like justice serve, there was 645 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: no like retribution, There was no payback for the stealing, 646 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: the years and years and years of stealing. We kind 647 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: of see Red as a villain and she is, don't 648 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 2: get me wrong, and Aaron, but the rest of the 649 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: crew being okay with it for so long and still 650 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 2: don't care until they get called out. It's kind of like, 651 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: oh and then no one ever actually acknowledges it again, 652 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: I'll fix yeah. 653 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 654 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: But at first, like I was confused at first because 655 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: I thought like, oh, this Pulaski Polastri guy has been 656 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: doing this for years, and so I thought it was 657 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: like him and that he finally just got caught, like 658 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: he was stealing or whatever and teaching all these other people, 659 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: and then it was read. But yeah, I mean, yeah, 660 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: that's that is a huge conversation and continues to be 661 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: one of who's getting the credit for these ideas, who's 662 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: getting the awards, who's getting the money all those things? 663 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: Well, and also so in the world of competitive cheerleading, 664 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 2: from what I remember, it's just like gymnastics trying to 665 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: create new moves in order to show like new advancement 666 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 2: or new tricks. And being able to show like these 667 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 2: skills that are different. Things like the liberty, which is 668 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 2: when you stand up with one knee up with someone 669 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 2: holding your one foot, like was really new. But they 670 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 2: have those rules where if you're underneath and pushing someone 671 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 2: up from below they're directly above you, that's actually illegal 672 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: because if they fall, they will break your neck. So 673 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: you have to have fee them in front of you. 674 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: So all these different rules and because of some of 675 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 2: these dangerous moves, they have to be really really creative 676 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 2: and what they do a lot of the basket tosses, 677 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: turns and flips up in the air that was in 678 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: the last twenty years, Like honestly, like the flips and 679 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: turns were newer, and it showed a lot of like 680 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: athleticism and strength that was new from just doing a cartwheel, 681 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: you know, so that they were trying a lot of 682 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 2: new stuff and with that being able to be that 683 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 2: creative and create your own routine on like the taking 684 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 2: a pyramid where people were just on their knees to 685 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: an actual like standing like bactuck up into a pyramid 686 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: was brand new for the longest time, and so creating 687 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: these things, you know, kind of like the fact that 688 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: Simone Biles has a move named after her now, but 689 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: she created this is a big deal. So having the 690 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 2: being the first ones to do this is such a 691 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 2: big thing and a maker within like cheerleading more. I 692 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 2: guess uh that it is. It is upsetting to see, 693 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 2: like on a serious note, upsetting to see this and like, 694 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure it happens often. I'm sure it happens often. 695 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: You know. There's a lot of times when I remember 696 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 2: we would see something that a competitor did or the 697 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: other team dated. We're like, ooh, we like that. We're 698 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: going to take that, you know what I'm saying. Sharing 699 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 2: is one thing and learning is one thing, but to 700 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 2: steal and take credit for it again. This is that 701 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: conversation and the fact that they never really acknowledged it, 702 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 2: even Torrance never publicly really acknowledged it. They're just like, oh, 703 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 2: how bad didn't know m And literally was like, oh 704 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 2: I didn't know. And I says like, well, now you 705 00:38:53,880 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: do fix it. I kind of don't, but there you go. 706 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 2: And that is bring it on all of this political spectrum. 707 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure what the rest of them films 708 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 2: were like. So Hayden Pantier Solange Noles Bring It All 709 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 2: or Nothing two thousand and six, it did not rate well. 710 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: Now I went on this rabbit hole yesterday and I 711 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 1: feel like none of them, none of the other ones 712 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: did well. 713 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 2: Hey, but that's interesting. 714 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 715 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 2: There was a new one in two thousand and nine, 716 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: Fight to the Finish, and this one had Christina Milion, 717 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 2: So that's a whole different conversation. I love that they 718 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 2: bring in some R and B accent to this. Anyway, 719 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 2: there you go. 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