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On 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: Sidelines out here at the scouting combine in Indianapolis. 27 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: This girl never stops working. How are you? Thank you 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: for taking the time. I'm so good. 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 5: Thank you for having me on. It's so good to 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 5: see you. I feel like a real human operating between 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 5: the hours of eight am and we're talking midday here. 32 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 5: It's like, wow, so this is really when things are 33 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 5: going because yeah, GMFB we roll early. 34 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: It is very early as seven am. Start right there. 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: You guys are up early. 36 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: You know this is your second season on GMFB. I 37 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: know when you first took that job you mentioned how 38 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: this is kind of a different path for your career. 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: It was kind of a fork in the road because 40 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: you had been doing sidelines so much so well, you'd 41 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: been doing a lot of that with college with football 42 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: and basketball, but doing a studio hosting show was a 43 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: pivot for you, how has that been now that you're 44 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: two years into that? 45 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 5: So ironic that you ask the question that way, because 46 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 5: we just got done hearing from the prospects at the 47 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 5: combine and there was this one running back in particular 48 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 5: who you look at his sheet and he had been 49 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 5: like four years at a certain college as a wide 50 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 5: receiver and then someone moved him to running back and 51 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 5: now he's at the NFL scouting combine with running back 52 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 5: four whatever on a sweatshirt. And it just made me think, like, 53 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 5: I wonder who planted that seed to convince him that 54 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 5: he had to make a change in order to get 55 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 5: from a position style in order to get to the 56 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 5: NFL or get to the scouting combine. And it's very 57 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: much what I felt in being a sideline reporter or 58 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 5: a reporter for CBS was I could have stood on 59 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 5: a corner in fifty seventh Street and eleventh Avenue in 60 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 5: New York City and had a poster that said, I'm 61 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 5: a studio host. I'm a studios for every day of 62 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 5: my life. But I think when you begin your career, 63 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 5: and I had done it for eight to ten years 64 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 5: between the NFL and the SEC, you know, rightfully. So 65 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 5: CBS is like, you're a sideline reporter. This is how, 66 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 5: this is what it is and what your role is. 67 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 5: And I just felt in my gut and in my 68 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 5: heart that I had to make a change to really 69 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 5: flex a muscle, learn a new muscle the studio, hosting 70 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 5: muscle and show CBS show. Everybody like, this is something 71 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 5: I want to do that I can do, but you're 72 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 5: not gonna be able to do it until you put 73 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 5: the work in. And so, you know, three hours a day, 74 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 5: fifteen hours a week together, second NFL season on the show, 75 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 5: I've learned so much from the guys that I'm with 76 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 5: every day, just from the TV perspective, the business of it. 77 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 5: But yeah, I felt like I had to make a 78 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 5: major change just to kind of say, to rebrand myself 79 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 5: as a host. Right. 80 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: Well, and you mentioned three hours a day, fifteen hours 81 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: a week, that's just when you're on air. Yes, that's 82 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: just the time you were on air. There's a lot 83 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: of preparation that goes into that show. It's a heavy lift. 84 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: And you know, when you're talking about NFL football, especially 85 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: during this season, you've got Monday night games, Thursday night games, 86 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: Sunday night games. I don't know how early your alarm 87 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: clock goes off, but i'd imagine it's a short turnaround 88 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: from that. 89 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: What is your secret to preparation? 90 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 5: And for a show like that, I do what I 91 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: I like to call a split shift. So I have 92 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 5: two little kids at home, you know, they really get 93 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 5: the bulk of me in the middle of the day, 94 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 5: or I try to give them my best self in 95 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 5: the middle of the day. But football gets me in 96 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 5: the morning, and then it gets me closer, you know, 97 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 5: at night. So it's not your traditional nine to five 98 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 5: sports TV never is your traditional nine to five, So 99 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 5: you have to be okay with that. But I give it. 100 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 5: I give it my all from when I wake up 101 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 5: at four thirty until the show's done at ten, and 102 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 5: then a little bit of unwind after that, maybe an 103 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 5: hour recap of just what we just did and looking 104 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 5: ahead to the next day and the next week and 105 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 5: the week unfolding. And then at night I really hit it, 106 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 5: you know, six to nine at night and just like 107 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 5: do the prep for the next day. But the beautiful 108 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 5: thing about the football season, and you know this, just 109 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 5: content wise, how much things snowball, you know, like all 110 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 5: of a sudden your recall from things that happened in 111 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 5: week two and it's week eleven and you're able to 112 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 5: just it really fires off the tongue a lot faster, 113 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 5: just like the deeper you get into the season. 114 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 115 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: Now, you mentioned how you know, earlier in your career 116 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: looked at you and said you're. 117 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: A sideline reporter. 118 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: And I don't not see why, because I've seen you 119 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: on the sideline and I got to say, you are 120 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: so good at that, and I've long admired that skill 121 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: of yours. I've seen you, you know, over the years 122 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: doing NCAA tournaments, doing college football sidelines, and even now 123 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 3: sometimes during the NFL season you'll do the international games 124 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: and whatnot. It's such a specific skill, you know, and 125 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 3: it's such a hard job, and sometimes people will look 126 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: at it like, oh, well, what's the sideline reporter? I 127 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: got to say, But there's a lot that goes into it. 128 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: You're running around, you're gathering information, you got to file 129 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: away a lot of things. You gotta have relationships, and 130 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: to do it and do it well is a feat. 131 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 3: How would you describe what that job takes? 132 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 5: Okay, so early out of my career, I don't know 133 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 5: who it was I should really think long and hard 134 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 5: about this. Someone told me just stop referencing the stats, 135 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 5: the numbers. It's not my job. That's not where I 136 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 5: should be living in that realm. Also, when I talk 137 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 5: to you, when I talk to a coach or an athlete, 138 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 5: you rattling off the fact that this guy had ninety 139 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 5: five catches over sixteen games. It's like that you lose 140 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: someone when you start to say numbers at them. If 141 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 5: you watch their eyes. It has It's so basic, but 142 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 5: it has to be about good storytelling. And that's people 143 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 5: hear that all the time. But the way I like 144 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 5: to explain it is when I would go to dinner 145 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 5: with my CBS crew. My first crew in the NFL, 146 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 5: I worked with Greg Gumble and Trent Green. My SEC crew, 147 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 5: I worked with Brad Nessler and Gary Danielson. My favorite 148 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 5: thing to do is ever go to a crew dinner 149 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 5: because I love when Gary or Trent would start telling 150 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 5: Greg Gumble. They start telling these stories and You're like, 151 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 5: I just like get drunk on the stories. So I'm like, 152 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 5: tell me more. 153 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: I want more of this. 154 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 5: So I took that into my role on the game. 155 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 5: You want to tell this compelling story is if you're 156 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 5: sitting at a dinner and you got to tell a 157 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 5: story that makes Gary Danielson or Trent Green want to 158 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 5: hear it from you and respond to it appropriately. If 159 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 5: you create this nice, well packaged, scripted, numbers based factual report, 160 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 5: that's information and that's good, but it's not compelling and people, 161 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 5: it's not gonna stick in people's head. So my goal, 162 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 5: specifically when I am silent reporting, is always say something 163 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 5: that the guys in the booth have to respond to, yeah, 164 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 5: that they feel compelled to say, what do you mean? 165 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 5: Almost make them want to follow up with you, more airtime, 166 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 5: more time to tell your story. But it makes me 167 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 5: just think quickly back to December. I was in this 168 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 5: building for a cold scheme and I told a Gardner 169 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 5: Minshew story about how he was living in a van 170 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 5: in the off season in Naples and he plays pickleball 171 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 5: against older ladies. And you know, we had a second 172 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 5: and eight in a run play and Rich Eisen's talking 173 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 5: to Kurt Warner and Kurt's like, I'm sorry, Rich, I'm 174 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 5: still thinking about how Gardner was living in a van 175 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 5: in the off season. It was just so perfect, and 176 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 5: it just made me so proud. I was like, I 177 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 5: told the story the right way, and that's how I 178 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 5: always kind of thought of it. 179 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you've got the guys in the booth still thinking, yes, 180 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: you know, the viewers are engaged as well, and it's. 181 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: Such a hard thing. But not just those moments as well. 182 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: But you know, you've covered a lot of NCAA tournament Yep, 183 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: those are some emotional finishes some like things change so 184 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: quickly on a dime, grabbing somebody after a game like that, 185 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: a win like that, and doing an interview in that 186 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: environment and asking the right questions and being prepared what 187 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: goes into that. 188 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 5: Well, specifically when it comes to college basketball, there's so 189 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 5: much emotion behind it, and the really great memories and 190 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 5: the moments I think are teams that you didn't expect 191 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: to be there. You know, FDU beating Purdue last year, 192 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 5: that coach, there's that image of me with my arm 193 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 5: like gripping that coach for a brief second. I think 194 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 5: people were kind of like, whoa, you know, she got 195 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 5: ahold of that coach like a lot he was kind 196 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 5: of like stumbling on his feet a little bit. Like 197 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 5: just the entire moment is watching his players celebrate realizing 198 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 5: what he just did. He was he needed someone to 199 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 5: hold on to him for a second and just get 200 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 5: us going grounded all. Secondly, you know, in those moments, 201 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 5: I think, it's not about your voice. It's not about 202 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 5: the amount of words you use. It's get to the 203 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 5: point of what you want to hear. And even if 204 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 5: it's as simple as I always I love reading people's 205 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 5: faces and even just saying you're crying or you're emotional, 206 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 5: why it makes them answer the question. There has to 207 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 5: be a why behind that, and it's a simple observation. 208 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 5: But you know, just getting into if you take too long, 209 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 5: their emotion evaporates, really and so then you can't circle 210 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 5: back to the why if you let if you make 211 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 5: them go on a technicality of the x's and the o's, 212 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 5: and you were in that time out and tell me 213 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 5: what happened. If your next question is about the emotion, 214 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 5: the emotion's gone because you made them go on the technicality. 215 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 5: So I just love keeping it so simple. I had 216 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 5: an interview once with Nick Saban at halftime, I think 217 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 5: of an Iron Bowl game and Alabama was down like 218 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 5: ten nothing or ten three. It was brutal and all 219 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 5: I asked and was like, coach, what's the problem? Because 220 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 5: I could not come up with is it an offensive 221 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 5: line issue? 222 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: I couldn't. 223 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 5: I couldn't say like you have negative ten rushing or 224 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 5: it's anything. There were so many problems. So I asked him, coach, 225 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 5: what's the problem. And he looked at me and he 226 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 5: just went on this beautiful rant and then that was 227 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 5: it went on his way, and I was like, great, 228 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 5: I mean, you're the expert. Tell me what the problem 229 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 5: is exactly like I'm not trying to impress you. 230 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: Guys. 231 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: Yes, that is so true, and that's such a good approach. 232 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: You know, I know basketball has been one of your 233 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: favorite sports. You played basketball in college at se NOLAF 234 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 3: in Minnesota. 235 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 236 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: Covering the NFL now and covering football, how much has 237 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: that changed? Is basketball still your favorite sport? Has NFL 238 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: won you over? Where's the heartline? 239 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 5: Now? It's hard to not have Football have won me 240 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 5: over just because the sheer amount of hours I put 241 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 5: into it. Now it's almost like basketball has become my 242 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 5: guilty pleasure. You know, Football is work, Football is the business. 243 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 5: I love watching the games, but I always know when 244 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 5: I watch, whether it be games or shows or you 245 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 5: know content that people are producing. It's like there is 246 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 5: there is a part of it that it's like part 247 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 5: of my work and it's part of my career basketball. 248 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 5: It's like I just like it's on I hear the 249 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 5: sneaker squeaking and it's an upset. Oh, this is an 250 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 5: unranked team and they're up five with under four to play. 251 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 5: Like you just like, I can't help but watch it. 252 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 5: And so splitting that dedication. When I was at CBS 253 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 5: used to be kind of a heartbreak. You know, mid December, 254 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 5: late December would roll around, a football would wrap up, 255 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 5: and then you just jump right into basketball and that 256 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 5: was the business. But now it's almost like because the 257 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 5: NFL goes so long and then I get to still 258 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 5: be a part of March madness is such a blessing. 259 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 5: But I still I love playing basketball still, so like 260 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: that that probably still for me. I'm not I'm not 261 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 5: trying to get out there. I'm like put you in 262 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 5: a seven on seven league or anything like that. Yeah, 263 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 5: I'm trying to play flag like I'll do play I'll 264 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 5: play pick up basketball every night. 265 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: Do you have do you have a hoop in the driveway? 266 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 5: We did put a hoop in the driveway when we 267 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 5: moved to New Jersey, we did. Yes, Well, you know, 268 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 5: my little girls are four and two, so they're not 269 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 5: quite the dribbling is just coming into effect. The hand eye. 270 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 5: We're still working on it. But yeah, if I hadn't 271 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 5: have anything to say about it, then we'll definitely be 272 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 5: We had to lower the hoop a little bit right now. 273 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: But you know, I mean, I get that the four 274 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: and two year old not quite coming out with that 275 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 3: smooth hand. 276 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 5: No, no, no no. But you see these kids now 277 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 5: with these like video is everything. I'm like, how did 278 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 5: you get your kid to be like that? My girls? Yeah, 279 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 5: so we'll get there. But my husband played soccer and football, 280 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 5: and so he's like trying to get We're like having 281 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 5: a parental pathway issue right now. I'm like, let's just 282 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 5: try to get him to do everything. 283 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: All the sports, all the sports. 284 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 5: Now. 285 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: You grew up in Minnesota. Yep, school in Minnesota. You 286 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: lived in Minnesota when you started your career, moved to 287 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: New Jersey for this job with Good Morning Football. That's 288 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 3: a rarity, especially in the world of journalism and sports 289 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: journalism broadcasts as a whole. To be able to you know, 290 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: born and raise and stay in the same place. How 291 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: special was that time for you and how hard was 292 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: that decision to make to leave that behind? 293 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 5: Very hard to leave Minnesota behind, my husband being from 294 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 5: there as well. That being said, there was speaking of 295 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 5: the crossroads professionally just reporter hosts, you know, there was personally. 296 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 5: There's a lot of travel that comes along with the 297 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 5: freedom to live where you want to live. So CBS says, 298 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 5: you know, you're on the NFL sideline, you're on the 299 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 5: SEC sideline. We don't care where you live, just be 300 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 5: able to get to an airport. That's all well and good. 301 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 5: But you start having kids and the kids want to 302 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 5: see you, and they don't want you leaving for seventeen 303 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 5: weekends in a row. And there came a moment where 304 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 5: I was able to have a very real conversation with 305 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 5: my husband, who luckily his company's based in New Jersey. 306 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 5: I said to him, listen, this is gonna suck, but 307 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 5: like we could rip off a band aid here and 308 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 5: leave Minnesota, a place that we love and we love 309 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 5: growing up, but it means that we get to stay 310 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 5: together as a family unit a lot more frequently. And 311 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 5: it was a no brainer at that point, I mean, 312 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 5: flying here to Indie even I was like, man, I 313 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 5: can't believe I used to do this every week, and 314 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 5: with the carry on and the lugging and the midnight 315 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 5: landing and everything. You do it because you don't know 316 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 5: any better. But now that I've kind of been off 317 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 5: the road and focus so much on the three hours 318 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 5: a day and the sacrifice that it took to leave home, 319 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 5: is we're both like very okay with it. 320 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 321 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 5: That being said, having grown up in Minnesota and living there, 322 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 5: I never really did a lot of Minnesota sports coverage 323 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 5: in my career, so I was very lucky my first 324 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 5: TV job was out in Boston and then for me 325 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 5: to go back to Minnesota, but it was working for CBS. 326 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 5: So this time I moved back to Minnesota, it was 327 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 5: on the road for forty nine ers games for whatever, 328 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 5: So I was able to stay a fan really of 329 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 5: Minnesota sports, which I really enjoyed. Would have loved a 330 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 5: little bit more cheering when I was there, but I 331 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 5: liked being able to the separation of church and state 332 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: there a little bit. 333 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: Which is fair, yeah, because it doesn't you know, muddy 334 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: the water that you don't want to see how the 335 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: sausage is made of. 336 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 5: The occasional Vikings game. I really loved, you know, there'd 337 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 5: be a little article in the newspaper about this local 338 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 5: girl on the on the like I had a London 339 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 5: game and the Vikings were in it, Like that was 340 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 5: really awesome. But I really I never had to be 341 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 5: like at training camp and the scrum at the Vikings 342 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 5: and like having been a kid growing up as a fan, 343 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 5: like you know, I appreciate being able to still just 344 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 5: like love the team for who they are. 345 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I see an occasional hat tip in the start, Yeah, 346 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 4: commune exactly. 347 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: But you know you talk about, you know, balancing family 348 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: and travel and all that you're expecting your third daughter. 349 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 5: Yeh. 350 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: You have a great announcement around Halloween NFL Network on 351 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: Good Morning Football. They all dress up on Halloween. If 352 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: you haven't seen it, and you did, Rihanna, Yep, pregnancy 353 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: announcement and all for both of you, which you know, 354 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: well done, well done. But I bring this up to 355 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: say that, you know, a lot of women, when they're 356 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: pursuing their dreams professionally, feel like they have to take 357 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: a choice of like am I going to pursue my 358 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: career path. Am I going to pursue my family path? 359 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: You have done both simultaneously and are doing both simultaneously 360 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: as we speak. Describe number one how hard that's been. 361 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: Number two, how you've been able to manage and navigate that. 362 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 5: I don't take no for an answer very easily. I 363 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 5: do have Minnesota nce in my personality, but that doesn't 364 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 5: really make me like amiable to certain situations. I put 365 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 5: that into what I've done with my you know, rearing 366 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 5: children and doing the jobs that I've had. I just 367 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 5: I just try so hard until the universe tells me 368 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 5: like it's enough, you can't do it this way. I 369 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 5: think that's what happened with Good Morning Football. I think 370 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 5: sure I could have kept doing the sideliner point thing. 371 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 5: You know, Tracy Wolfson has three kids, and she has 372 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 5: been on the road her entirety. I know she had 373 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 5: her first kids or her first couple when she was 374 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 5: on the SEC, or maybe she had all three when 375 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 5: she's on the SEC. And now we still see her 376 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 5: doing Super Bowl. She has been traveling and she raised 377 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 5: her kids, and I applaud her so much for doing 378 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: that all through that era. It was it was just 379 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 5: very hard for me to leave them every weekend. And 380 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 5: so when this opportunity came up, I was like, I 381 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 5: think this is the universe telling me that you've kind 382 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 5: of hit your wall in terms of how hard this 383 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 5: has been on your family dynamic, and you're allowed to 384 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: go this other pathway and pursue something, and it it 385 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 5: allows family life to be a little bit easier. Like 386 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 5: I mentioned the sacrifice before of leaving Minnesota, but it 387 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 5: was so well worth it. So I just I just 388 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 5: try everything until i'm until someone or something tells me 389 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 5: take a beat. So you know, I flew here yesterday, 390 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 5: I'm thirty five weeks pregnant. I was like, let's we're 391 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 5: just gonna check the blood pressure. We're gonna talk to 392 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 5: the doctor. We're good to get on the plane, right, 393 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 5: and then off I went. And if I can get 394 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 5: in and out of Indie without having this kid, then 395 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 5: we're good. 396 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. Please. So, although there's plenty of medical stuff round here, it's. 397 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, if there's anywhere that it's gonna happen, yeah, 398 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: it's not right. 399 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 5: Wait, you guys got something back there. 400 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 4: I could check that was going on in here? 401 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 5: What's up? Hard? So it I just I keep going 402 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 5: until until I'm told to stop or do it differently. 403 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 5: And I think that's just kind of always. That's how 404 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 5: I crafted my style of sideline reporting. That's how I 405 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 5: crafted the relationship that I was in with a person 406 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 5: I ended up marrying. That's how I we decide to 407 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 5: parent and live and move and do this life together. Yeah, 408 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 5: is just keep trying. If you really want it, which 409 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 5: I've always really wanted to be able to do it, 410 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 5: you aren't going to be able. You have to fight 411 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 5: for the dynamic that you want to set up in 412 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 5: your life. And I feel like I've done that right 413 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 5: right absolutely. 414 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 3: And you have now your third girl on the way. Y. 415 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: Do you ever think about the example that you're setting 416 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: for your daughters of like, hey, you can have it all? 417 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? 418 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 4: I do. 419 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 5: I try. I try to show them that I say, 420 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 5: Mom's got to go to work just as frequently as 421 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 5: Dad has to go to work, and that that's an 422 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 5: equal balance. And on the flip side of that, you know, 423 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 5: dad gets your time just as much as mom gets 424 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 5: your time. And there was an era I think for 425 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 5: women in general, not just in sports, where that was 426 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 5: not a dynamic that existed, that it really was just 427 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: so much was on the mom and there was so 428 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 5: much sacrifice there. And I really am so lucky to 429 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 5: live in a world now where the expectation is balancing 430 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 5: out more and that I found a husband who's just 431 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 5: like you go you. He's always said that to me, like, 432 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 5: you do you whatever, you know, We'll figure it out. 433 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 5: We'll always figure it out. I think a couple of 434 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 5: times he has said regretted saying that to me, because 435 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 5: even the Good Morning Football thing, I said, wow, this, 436 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 5: you know, Kay Adams is leaving the show, and I 437 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 5: might be able to get that job. What do you think. 438 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 4: He's like, go for it. 439 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 5: You just and I think after a couple of weeks 440 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 5: he's like, oh god, you might get this job. 441 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 4: Well I said that, you. 442 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 3: Know, like I didn't think it was exactly so I'm 443 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: driving right. 444 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 5: He might regret that sentiment now, but yeah, I just 445 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 5: want to show them that that you if you just 446 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 5: keep a good head about you and a good heart 447 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 5: and you treat people kindly and you just work hard 448 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 5: and you like what you're doing, that nothing is ever 449 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 5: that difficult and you just like, you know it was 450 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 5: I like going to work in the morning and I 451 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 5: picked them up and they're happy, and I'm happy in 452 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 5: you know, being around them, and just that example the 453 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 5: daily like it's okay to do hard things and trust me, 454 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 5: doing good morning foot being a parent to small people. 455 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 4: Is hard to. 456 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: So you've got multiple hard jobs that you are encharguing 457 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: right now. 458 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 4: When you look. 459 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: Back at your career early on and look at where 460 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: you are right now, what is one thing that you 461 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: learned over the years that you wish you could have 462 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: known earlier or that you would like to impart on. 463 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: You know, younger girls and women who might want to 464 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: follow in your path. 465 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 5: Oh, I think today you know, you and I were around, 466 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 5: we're still women are still outnumbered in an event like 467 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 5: this at the NFL Combine. When it comes to media 468 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 5: representation in football. And I used to be so scared 469 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 5: to walk into a media contingency and ask my question, 470 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 5: my one question and think about it and overthink about it, 471 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 5: and then you might stumble on it and then it 472 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 5: doesn't come out right and you regret doing that. Think 473 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 5: about all the time you just wasted thinking about what 474 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 5: you were supposed to say and how it was supposed 475 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 5: to come out. You probably didn't even listen to the 476 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 5: answer of the person that you asked the question. 477 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 4: No one else cares. 478 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna make this like a guy girl thing. 479 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 5: But like the other guys, the other fifty dudes are 480 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 5: standing around you, they don't care about your question. They 481 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 5: care about their So like, just ask your stuff. Get 482 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 5: in there, like elbow in there. They're all standing next 483 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 5: to each other. There's no reason why you can't be 484 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 5: standing in there. They don't care if you ask three questions, 485 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 5: they've asked six. Like it. Don't focus so much on 486 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 5: what's coming out. It's you belong there. You are, You 487 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: are credentialed to be there, just as the men that 488 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 5: are there, And no one should ever make you feel 489 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 5: like you're taking up their time. That's your job to 490 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: be there. And if you want to do it, then 491 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 5: go out and do it and feel comfortable being in 492 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 5: that environment. Now it takes practice being in that environment, 493 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 5: you know. I think I remember the first like Minnesota 494 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 5: Gophers Men's basketball press conference I ever went to, and 495 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 5: I shaking having to ask Tubby Smith a question and 496 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 5: swim hands are sweating, and but I remember that feeling. 497 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 5: And now I'm here, you know, taken up someone else's 498 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 5: time from the Dallas Morning News or something, and that's okay, 499 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 5: And you know it takes practice, but I think you 500 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 5: just have to have strength and confidence in the fact 501 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 5: that you belong in the room. 502 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it does take some time to learn 503 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: that it's okay to take up space a little bit. Yes, 504 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: But like you said, you know, sometimes people are gonna 505 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: ask questions that you know why they ask when we 506 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: are to guy ask everyone if they believe birds are 507 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: real today. Yeah, if they can ask that, you can 508 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: ask your question exactly exactly. 509 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: Like, Wow, that person has confidence to do that, So 510 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 5: I should ask mine about my legitimate football. 511 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 4: Question exactly exactly. 512 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: And even for every note, there's room for everyone at 513 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: these events. 514 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 4: We love to see it. 515 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: Jamie Ardal, it has been such a pleasure chatting with 516 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 3: you today. Thank you so much for taking the time. 517 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. I love watching your coverage 518 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 5: with the Giants. Sean O'Hara. 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