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Speaker 1: From the Rams studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. I Miles Simmons with me is

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Speaker 1: DeMarco far It is March twenty eighth, about eleven am

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Speaker 1: Pacific time here in sunny Los Angeles, California. And yes,

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Speaker 1: DeMarco saying we got big smiles because the Rams. Now yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dominan Sue. Yeah, well you have the resident wrecking machine

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Speaker 1: already in uniform. Now you got the second yeah, coming

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Speaker 1: out of Miami, and Dominican Sue is here. We talked

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Speaker 1: about this. I think this has potential to be just

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Speaker 1: a devastating, dominating defensive line, which makes me happy. As

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Speaker 1: long as your scoring points on top of that, then

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Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about Rams and playoffs? Why not? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well it's funny. I mean we talked about this with JB.

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Speaker 1: Long in the last episode of Between the Horns that

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Speaker 1: we had, and I mean I basically was like, nah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't really see it because how

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Speaker 1: will Sue sort of fit in with the way the

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Speaker 1: Rams play their defensive line? Right? This is a three

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Speaker 1: fourth scheme, but it is that one gap. You're not

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Speaker 1: necessarily playing the two gap. But what you and I

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Speaker 1: both said, yeah, is that if he comes and he

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Speaker 1: says I will play the nose, then that's the way

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Speaker 1: it would work. It's fair. But remember this is in Dominican. Sue,

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Speaker 1: he's a professional. He's one of the best. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he can play anywhere along the defensive line. Anywhere he

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Speaker 1: chooses to play, or you want him to play, he

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Speaker 1: can play. But there is going to be a choice

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Speaker 1: with him when it's third and a mile and it's

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Speaker 1: time to get after the passer. Now, every defensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: especially tackles, have their favorite spot to which they want

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Speaker 1: to rush from. It's like a pitcher right handed. Whatever

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Speaker 1: your best pitches, it's coming. So if he wants to

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Speaker 1: line up on the left that day, say it left

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle, but that's where Donald wants to be. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's a choice that's going to have to be made.

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Speaker 1: Who gets that spot. I would say right now, Sue's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to bump over. But I mean maybe AD's

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Speaker 1: not in there. But that's the benefit for all Rams

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Speaker 1: fans and this football team. I mean, there is no

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Speaker 1: rest for the offense when they're both out there, when

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Speaker 1: they're staggered of ones taken a blow, and the other

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Speaker 1: one's in with the with the backup, there is no

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Speaker 1: let off, there's no drop down for the defense. So

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Speaker 1: this is a great move for the Rams. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean anytime you can add one of the most

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Speaker 1: dominant defensive linemen in the game and you already have

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Speaker 1: one of the arguably the most dominant defensive linemen in

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Speaker 1: the game, there is something to that. And I think

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Speaker 1: no matter where Sue plays along the defensive line, and

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Speaker 1: it is. McVay said this at the league meetings in

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Speaker 1: Orlando yesterday at the coaches breakfast, said that right now,

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Speaker 1: Sue is going to play the nose. So you're still

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Speaker 1: going to have Donald at three technique and Brocker's at

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Speaker 1: five technique, which I think they both settled into those positions. Yes,

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Speaker 1: exactly right. If you're on first and second down, Especially,

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Speaker 1: what is an offense supposed to do combat that three

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Speaker 1: stubborn pier posts. You ever seen a pier post out

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Speaker 1: there in the ocean. I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 1: A post that's holding on the pier where the pier's gone,

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Speaker 1: and it's just an old post. It's out there and

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Speaker 1: you see the ocean trying to batter this thing down. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: well you got three of them out there, right. Imagine

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Speaker 1: if they're upset that day and they don't feel like

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Speaker 1: playing football, they just want to hurt people. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying you. You have the makings

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Speaker 1: Sue has to pull his back foot up a little

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Speaker 1: bit more, drop his button down, and play nose tackle.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to play the run a little bit

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Speaker 1: more than you than you have in years past because

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Speaker 1: of Donald is out there. And when you see a

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Speaker 1: guy out there that's that good, you'll play that spot.

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Speaker 1: You understand that if if you think that that spot

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Speaker 1: to take it. I would love to see that battle. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Let's see it go down in training camp. Let's see

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Speaker 1: who comes out the best. But eventually they all want

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Speaker 1: that should that should make anybody salivate for training camp.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely no, and it's it's probably bad news Bears for

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Speaker 1: the Rams offensive line can't. Oh man, but I text

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Speaker 1: from Arizona, from Sam frand from people I know that

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Speaker 1: are just like, oh that's that's just that's terrible. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how can you guys do this to us? I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Sam's good, but every every team. This

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Speaker 1: is the funny thing when you're watching Dominican Sue play,

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not him when he's out there, he's being doubled,

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Speaker 1: what have you. He's not making Somebody tried to say

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Speaker 1: that Miami didn't get better when they moved on from

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Speaker 1: Randy Starks, going from Starks to Sue. Okay, let's let's

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Speaker 1: go back and watch every tape because it's not just

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Speaker 1: the numbers you have to look at. It's the effect

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Speaker 1: see Sue out there in a Miami Dolphin uniform, guess

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Speaker 1: who shows up more than him? Cameron Wake, You know why?

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Speaker 1: Because there's no help, right, You're spending all your time

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Speaker 1: trying to deal with that, and then watch the tape further.

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Speaker 1: When Sue's out of the game, watch the offidence gain

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Speaker 1: more confidence, Watch quarterbacks gain more confidence in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: Right when he's in there, things change. So this is

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Speaker 1: going to help. There's no way to get away from

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Speaker 1: this defense as it looks like on paper. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: you brought up Cameron Wake, but Olivia Vernon, who went

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Speaker 1: And then he goes to the Giants and he makes

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Speaker 1: all that money in part because of what was going

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Speaker 1: on with Sue and with Wake. And so when you're

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Speaker 1: an effect on YouTube. Oh my god, when you that

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Speaker 1: left side, when it's Wake and Sue in Miami and

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Speaker 1: they're either running games or just running straight ahead at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, that right and left guard, right guard and

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Speaker 1: right tackle have issues. So it's not just Sue and

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Speaker 1: Donald the pairing that's going to be enough for any

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Speaker 1: rushes that's gonna line up next to Donald and then

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Speaker 1: next to Sue on the other side. Right, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna make everybody better. And then the corners that you

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Speaker 1: have man covered specialists. Yes, so the way you attack

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Speaker 1: the Rams last year is not going to be the

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Speaker 1: way you try to attack him this year. Not even close. Right,

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Speaker 1: And that's one of these interesting things. And I don't

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Speaker 1: adding in Kevin Durant, right, so you know they he

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Speaker 1: it was a position of need in some ways on

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Speaker 1: a team that was already good. Right, So and it's

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Speaker 1: the same effect. Yes, that's what I'm going to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, like Dominicon Sue, he comes in and he's

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Speaker 1: going to play a position that the Rams needed, they

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Speaker 1: they're playing positions of need. They are going to get

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Speaker 1: the Rams better out there. And so yes, now the

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Speaker 1: Rams still do have positions that they've got to fill

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Speaker 1: it inside linebacker, an outside linebacker. But just when you're

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Speaker 1: looking at that defense as a whole. You talk about

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Speaker 1: things that the Rams could get better at. They brought

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Speaker 1: in players that fit the system and that fit positions need. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the where it stops, where the sports kind of

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Speaker 1: change is well, Kevin Durant, Michael Jordan. Basketball can go

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Speaker 1: end to end and score. Yes, there's only five players

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Speaker 1: right each you know now, I mean Legion of Booms,

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Speaker 1: I mean those defenses. They start from great and get

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Speaker 1: dependent upon the help they get on the other side

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Speaker 1: they've got a bunch of great names and a great defense.

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Speaker 1: You're still gonna have to score points, Yes, a lot

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Speaker 1: of points. Yes. If you want to make this defense

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Speaker 1: have fangs and b lights out, score thirty five points

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Speaker 1: a game and make it seventy thirty pass to throw

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Speaker 1: on game days in your house. With this front, quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: want to have a chance, right. I think that's what

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Speaker 1: less need. And Sean McVay are trying to build. It's

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Speaker 1: not just hey, look, let's build a defensive minded football

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Speaker 1: team and keep the score, what fourteen to three, and

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Speaker 1: let's win that way. Oh No, they want to dominate.

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Speaker 1: They want the offense to be We already saw that

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Speaker 1: to dominate and the defense to you know, chew up

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Speaker 1: the rest of what's left. Yeah, And I think that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the way things worked last year. You know,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald was able to get eleven sacks and the

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Speaker 1: also led to points. And when you have that kind

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Speaker 1: When is the last time a tackle actually lead in sacks? Tackle,

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Speaker 1: actually defensive tackle actually lead in sacks? Warren Sap. I

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Speaker 1: long it's been. But that could be coming soon to

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Speaker 1: only got one for Donald. He's gonna he's gonna carve

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Speaker 1: And then Brockers is wom on wall. So it's and

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Speaker 1: their styles are so different. I mean, Donald is speed

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Speaker 1: anything like that. Yes, Sue is he plays a big

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Speaker 1: man's game. He is absolutely wearing you out. For that

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Speaker 1: workout you you've had all year time sixty five. Really,

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Speaker 1: it's that, it's that it's that impactful because he's that size.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes he's playing the game, sometimes he's playing against you.

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Speaker 1: He is absolutely trying to wear you out. That's how

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Speaker 1: if he starts to wear you down, that bullrush is

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Speaker 1: of those wear you down types to go with a

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Speaker 1: pier posts like Michael Brockers. Understand what you were talking about,

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Speaker 1: said peer Posts the first time. Now I get it,

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Speaker 1: and yes, good um. But I think also, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're paying him too much? Right right? I can't pause

425
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Speaker 1: of the because of the way the salary cap is structure.

426
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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to take mental notes of everyone that's

427
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Speaker 1: like kind of expressed to me that that Aaron Donald

428
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: is underpaid because once he does get paid, what once

429
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 1: he does get to the contract, those same people are

430
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Speaker 1: gonna say, wow, you're spending a lot of money on

431
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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. Yes, that's the way it goes. Um,

432
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: Donald's going to get there, Sue got there. It's just

433
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 1: a process. All you can do in the meantime is

434
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Speaker 1: play your ass off, and ninety nine is done that, yes,

435
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: and like but like I said, I mean, I think,

436
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: especially when you have a player that's going into the

437
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 1: last year of the contract, the time for these things

438
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: to usually get done is the summer, right and like

439
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, between the end of OTAs or mini camp,

440
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: probably in this case, in the beginning of training camp.

441
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Speaker 1: That's when I and I'm not reporting this, so don't

442
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, make this more than this. But I feel

443
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 1: like usually that's when these things get Are you talking

444
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: to I'm talking to you, talking to me. There is

445
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 1: no audit, it's me and you in here. I just

446
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: hate when you do that. What you start talking to

447
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,959
Speaker 1: no one again, I'm not talking to no one. Yes,

448
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: you start talking to people that aren't there. It's me

449
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 1: right here. You don't see the people. Wow. Um yeah,

450
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: so there there's that note. But I do think that

451
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: you know what, I just I hate even talking about

452
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: money when it comes to ninety nine. No, I know, yeah, yeah, Um,

453
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 1: cheapens his play. What do you mean in the sense that,

454
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: like you just like watching him to watch him? Yeah, yeah,

455
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: it's it's it's fun for me because now only have

456
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: to watch one tape to get my football jollys out.

457
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes I have to watch too, I have to watch

458
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: him and then I have to watch Sue. Now they're

459
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: on the same they're on the same time, so you

460
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: don't even have to worry about that. Yes, no, that's

461
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 1: fun for me. That is very fun. Um. So let's

462
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: move on to something else. And this is the the

463
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: rumors section of the podcast. So well, I'm pretty sure

464
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 1: we've all I didn't do that, Okay, so we got

465
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Speaker 1: to be close or careful about this. Oh is this

466
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: that little receiver guy? It might be, Oh that it

467
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: could be hypothetically, Absolutely, you'd be interested hypothetically if if

468
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: Team X wanted to make receiver why available? Absolutely, Yes, yeah,

469
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: I think that that would make a lot of sense.

470
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: So I'll put it like this, can you see the

471
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Speaker 1: Rams trading for another impact player? Let's just say. As

472
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Speaker 1: soon as I read the headline coming out of let's

473
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Speaker 1: just say the East Coast, I said, it's yeah, they're

474
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Speaker 1: going to be interested in me. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

475
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: yeah even fits. Um go back to what was it

476
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, fifteen in Washington. Um, yeah, Sean McVeigh and

477
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: DeShawn Jackson. Yeah, we're doing a number on the league. Yeah, yeah,

478
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: it fits. There's there's a definite fit for a receiver

479
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: like that guy hypothetic speaking yes, yeah. Um. I think

480
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: the most interesting thing about this is the way McVeigh

481
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: sort of addressed these roomors and he, you know, came

482
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Speaker 1: out and sort of said, all right, do you want

483
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: this and you want to talk about Sue Um at

484
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: the Coach's breakfast yesterday. But basically what he said was,

485
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: you know, we've shown that we're not afraid to trade

486
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Speaker 1: for any player. You know, he's crediting you know, Snead,

487
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, Kevin Demoff, Tony past Steers, and even ownership

488
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: for exploring every avenue to make this team better. So

489
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Speaker 1: my next question, I guess, is is that worth giving

490
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Speaker 1: up a first round pick plus something. Adam schefter To

491
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: tweeted today that the Giants in would be asking for

492
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: two first round picks. Wow. I wish I could interview

493
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas right now, the best free safety in the game, right. Okay,

494
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: So let's see, you've got Todd Gurley back behind Jared

495
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: Goth and you've got this hypothetical blondheaded receiver that's over

496
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: there outside the numbers. Yes, what do you do well,

497
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, that's how you probably shade him.

498
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Speaker 1: But then you've also got Robert Woodson Cooper cup. Well

499
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: that's the end decision that that something like that would cause. Right,

500
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: So it may not be hey, let's just feed this

501
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: guy the ball and feed this guy's ego. Just think

502
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Speaker 1: what it does to the entire offense and to the defense.

503
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: It just puts you in peril in every single play

504
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: to be hit either deep or to be run on. Right,

505
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: the better you execute, and that same sort of situation

506
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: makes you unstoppable. It makes you a super offense. Absolutely, yeah.

507
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: But and if you know you have that kind of

508
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Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. But at the same time, I

509
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: think it deserves to be discussed whether it's necessarily worth

510
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Speaker 1: giving up that first round pick because of the way

511
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 1: the contract situations are here in Los Angeles already, right,

512
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Speaker 1: I mean you think about it, Donald's got to get paid.

513
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters and Todd Gurley are both up next year.

514
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: Those are two players that sensibly you definitely want to

515
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Speaker 1: keep around long term Jared Goff the year after. And

516
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Speaker 1: you know, it's been widely reported that the Rams have

517
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Speaker 1: you know, some of the most cap space for next

518
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Speaker 1: season and then the season beyond that, so there's room

519
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Speaker 1: for these so called mega deals to happen. Throw. I

520
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Speaker 1: love the scenarios. So let's say you just throw a

521
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: caution to the win and you give up the first rounder. Yeah,

522
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: and it's it's a mess, it's it's it's dangerous long term.

523
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Speaker 1: But what happens if you throw in a winning season,

524
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: like and you bring home in Lombardi. Oh well, if

525
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: you bring home Lombardi, everything's worth it. Well, yeah, that's

526
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Speaker 1: the way I'd be thinking. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't be

527
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: thinking about, oh my god, what happened in the future.

528
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: What about the right now? That's fair. What about the

529
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen with that football team? No, I I and

530
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: I see that. But I think also you do still

531
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: have you know, holes at outside linebacker, maybe not necessarily

532
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: inside linebacker, but I think the way you want to

533
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: get after quarterback, you already have Sue, you already have

534
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 1: Donald Brocker's those guys are your more or less interior

535
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: pass rushers, but that edge rusher spot you can get

536
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: at equality high impact edge rusher. In theory, you know,

537
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Speaker 1: with your first round pick, somebody that you can keep

538
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: under really a cost controlled contract for five years, and

539
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: you already have these other contracts coming up, right Jared

540
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: Goff right now, the trade in theory would make sense

541
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: because Jared Goff as your quarterback is under that kind

542
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: of cost controlled contract for the next two seasons after

543
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: this one, right, and that would that gives you that

544
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: gives you the five years of the rookie contract now,

545
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 1: right exactly. That's why I think this is such an

546
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: interesting scenario because if you've got all of these guys

547
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: and we went through four guys who were going to

548
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: get premium contracts, plus somebody like a little Marcus Joyner

549
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: who's up you know after this year now under the

550
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: franchise tag, and there are plenty of other, you know,

551
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: role players that the Rams are going to have to

552
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: do things with. You know, you've got three of your

553
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: offensive lineman are going to be up after this season,

554
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: Rob Havenstein, Jamon Brown at right guard, and then left

555
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: guard Roger Staffold. So again, these are things that I

556
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: think you got to think about. You got them all now, right,

557
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: you do have them all now, that's the way I'm thinking. Yeah, yeah,

558
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: if I can add a piece like that, and I

559
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: may have to give up one of those down the

560
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: road or I have decisions to make in the offseason

561
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, So be it. I told you this before,

562
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: and I hope this isn't like talking crazy, but I

563
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: want to do that hungover making those decisions, which means

564
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm still on a parade. Yeah, I think Philadelphia still

565
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: having fun. Philadelphia has their issues, yea, they have stuff

566
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: to worry about in the future. You know what they're

567
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: doing right now, celebrating having their building shelves for a trophy.

568
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think that's better than Hey, let's build,

569
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: build build, Let's let's let's be cautious. You know, if

570
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: that guy and if he's healthy, number one, if he's healthy,

571
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: and number two, his head is on straight. Because this

572
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: is the West Coast, this is Los Angeles, that does

573
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: scare me a lot. Okay, but if his head's on

574
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: straight and he's healthy, man, absolutely, it makes you a

575
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 1: super football team already in theory, it does. I mean

576
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: you have to go out and you got to play

577
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: the games. True, but ye yes, I think with that

578
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: kind of offensive threat, you know, that's really replacing Sammy

579
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: Watkins in theory with another player who is perhaps of

580
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: even higher cali. Yeah, and that's not just anybody. I

581
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: mean you've seen this guy play. Yeah, even when he's

582
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: not getting the ball, he's still killing you, right, He's

583
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: impacting the game. Yeah, yeah, okay, so over well, I

584
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: just think but no, I just do want to have

585
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: that discussion because I mean, you know what what happens

586
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: is you have the rams already and if you win

587
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: and if you have to make those decisions later down

588
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: the road. As mcface says, that's a problem. Excuse me,

589
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: A positive problem to have, yes, right, first world issues. Yeah,

590
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: all of football is kind of first first of world issue.

591
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: Yea for Cleveland. Oh, I had to throw that in.

592
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: ID just had to throw that. Oh sorry about Joe

593
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: by the way, Oh Joe Thomas. Yeah, retiring shout out

594
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: to Joe Thomas. Yes, great, left free follows me on Twitter?

595
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: You're free. I don't know why he holds on Twitter,

596
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: but I'm grateful because yeah, well, I mean I grew

597
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: up in Cleveland. There you go. I don't know. I

598
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: don't Maybe that's why he saw Native Cleveland or on

599
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: my yes, no offense to the Browns. Mess up with

600
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: Miles anyway, no offense to the Browns. But anyway. On

601
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: NFL Live apparently today, Adam Schefter said that it would

602
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: probably take a first. Adam Schefter said that Odell Beckham

603
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: Junior will be traded for a first and a third

604
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: or fourth round pick. That's his, that's you know, the

605
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: guy who knows. Adam Schefter is saying that. So whether

606
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: he Odell Beckham Junior is traded to any team in

607
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: the league, that's probably what it would take. Beating NFL Brail.

608
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: That tells me that New York isn't crazy, they're just

609
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 1: fed up. Yeah. Anything less than that than I wouldn't

610
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: want him, right yeah, Like why are you getting rid

611
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: of him? And you'll take this in return? Then maybe

612
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't want that. Well, I mean in theory that

613
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: like that's the same kind of thing I think you

614
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: would ask about Kansas City with Marcus Peters, right yeah, yeah,

615
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, you know it is. He has the most

616
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: picks since he's gotten in the league by a very

617
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: wide margin. Especially if you include playoff. I just remembered,

618
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: I think we got Marshall for a two and a five. Yeah, yeah,

619
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: didn't didn't England acquire Randy Moss for like a four

620
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: and a six. And you see how that turned out.

621
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: I almost had a perfect year, yeah, yeah, lost one

622
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: game the Super Bowls, Yeah yeah, and that really Sometimes

623
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: a change of scenery, man, you know, different coaching staff,

624
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: different environment, West Coast. Who knows things change? People change.

625
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: We saw that here with a guy who's no longer here,

626
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: Tremaine Johnson one eighty complete one eight. It became a leader. Absolutely, Absolutely,

627
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: things change, people can change. Guys are young, They come

628
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: into this league young, they act young, and then if

629
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: they're in it long enough, they grow up and they

630
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: become veterans and leaders. Yeah, that's the way it goes. Well.

631
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: This has also been a topic of conversation, especially since

632
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: the Rams signed Sue. How do you think McVeigh will

633
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: handle all these personalities in the locker room. Well, that's

634
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: the funny thing I heard about this. Where's the leadership

635
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: coming from? I don't know who wrote that or did

636
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: I hear that on the radio or Okay, come out

637
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: to practice. That'll be obvious within the first five seconds. Okay, Yeah,

638
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's where the leadership is coming from. Good

639
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: luck any player. I don't care how much you make

640
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: trying to out energy Sean McVay no god, yeah yeah yeah,

641
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: or out prepare or out football him. Good luck with that. Yeah. Yeah,

642
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: I want to meet that guy because chances are he's

643
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: not sleeping at all. Right, Yeah, so yeah, I don't

644
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: worry about the leadership aspect of that at all. It's

645
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: funny you bring up the sleep thing. I remember talking

646
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 1: to former offensive coordinator Matt Lafleur about this once and

647
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: he was like, I don't really understand how Sean McVay

648
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: has so much energy every day because he sleeps like

649
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 1: four to three hours a night. So like he basically

650
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: made a Lafoura was saying, I don't know where it

651
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: comes from. Yeah, but that's the kind of guy he is.

652
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: You always notice that energy. Yeah, I just it seems

653
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: like he is to me. It seems like he is

654
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: right where he needs to be. McVeagh, Yes, yeah, yeah,

655
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: he is in the right spot and he is really

656
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: really loving what he's doing. Yeah, and he's really really

657
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: into it. So yeah, I mean Sue's got a rep.

658
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: We know this. I think somebody pointed out his his fines,

659
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: you know how much he's paid and fines or what

660
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: have you. Or they want to take shout at shots

661
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: at the characters of the guys they're bringing in and

662
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: who's going to be the leader? Okay, Well that that

663
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: tells me you haven't seen this team prepare. That tells

664
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: me you haven't watched one single mini camp or training

665
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: camp practice. If you're wondering where the leadership is coming from, right, Um,

666
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: I think guys that have seen it, you know where

667
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: the leadership is coming from. Yes, yeah, out of the

668
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: building and inside the building. Well, I think you know,

669
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: just from the players standpoint, you still have guys in

670
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: the locker room like Andrew Whitworth and he imported last year.

671
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: You have Robert Woods sets the tone for that offense too.

672
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: Wasn't Andrew Whitworth roll the captain at the Pro Bowl? Yes?

673
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: He was by a bunch of guys he didn't play with. Okay, yeah,

674
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: that tells you a lot about him. Absolutely, yeah, And

675
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: so those are those are two guys I think on offense. Look,

676
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: Jared Goff is going to continue to grow up you know,

677
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: he's twenty three, going to be twenty four. That's what

678
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: I can this season. Yeah, you know, as he continues

679
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: to grow and continues to come into his own as

680
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: a leader, that guy is probably going to be a

681
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: captain here for a long time. Todd Gurley another one

682
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: of those guys that's young, coming into his own, going

683
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: to be a leader. Oh can you imagine if he

684
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: gets better, Todd, If Todd Gurley gets better, he should

685
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 1: be working on physically an athletic athletically. If he gets better,

686
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: if they find more and more and unique ways to

687
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: get him the ball in space, the fireworks you can see.

688
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: But what I can't wait for is for Jared Goff

689
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: to make that huge leap And I can I compare

690
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: him to Troy Aikman. He's so even keel playing against Troy,

691
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: watching Troy play, whether it's up or down, he's the

692
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: same guy. Yeah, that's what he's given. That's absolutely Jared Goff.

693
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: Behind closed doors, it's different. Yeah, he's he's a taskmaster.

694
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: I can't wait for that sort of jump out of

695
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Yeah, yeah, to where it doesn't have to

696
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: come from coaching the offensive line, the running backs, of receivers.

697
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: You don't have to wait for coaches to tell you.

698
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: He's going to tell you, right, Yeah, before you get

699
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: to the side of exactly love that stuff. But in

700
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: that I think is going to come with him knowing

701
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: this offense and you know, being more familiar with the

702
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: personnel and everybody else being more familiar with him too. Yeah.

703
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: Everyone was learning last year, including Jared Goff. Yes, absolutely so.

704
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: I mean you get into year two, year three, year

705
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: four of the same offense, when you can anticipate the

706
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: calls and you know, you and the coach and the

707
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: or the play caller you're on the same page and

708
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: you're looking at things the same way. It's no longer

709
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: hey can you run this, It's hey, let's just run this,

710
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: or I think we can do this. When you start

711
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: to get that dialogue between quarterback and coach, that's when

712
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: you go to like Green Bay type levels with with

713
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and McCarthy, Tony Romo when he was at

714
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: his best. I mean, he is the offensive coordinator on

715
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: the field at some point with this offense, it's going

716
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: to take more than a year Jared Goff could get there.

717
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: That's and that, but that's what you want. That's why

718
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: you want that continuity. And I think even though the

719
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: Rams have lost Matt Lafleur to the Titans and that

720
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: Greg Olson has gone to the Oakland Raiders to be

721
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator as well, there are still a lot

722
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: of things that are still going to translate because the

723
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: top is still the same. The offensive playbook is still

724
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: going to be the same. Now are they going to

725
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: add to it? Yes, they're going to have different tweaks

726
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: here and there. But these are the things that you

727
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: can start working on now in OTAs and in the

728
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: off season program that starts on April sixteenth. Once you

729
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: start getting into the classroom, you don't really have to

730
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: go through the same installation process because you're not learning

731
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: it the first time, the ground running exactly, and you

732
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: can continue to go through and start perfecting things. You

733
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: can say, Okay, look we struggled a little bit in

734
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: red zone offense. That's what we're going to do this year.

735
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: You know, you brought up Joe Thomas because Joe Thomas

736
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: used to say he had this great quote. I don't

737
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: know if it was in twenty fourteen or something, but

738
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: I saw it in the last few days because of

739
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: his retirement, but he said, you know, when you come

740
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Browns, you're basically introducing yourself to everybody

741
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: on the first day of the offseason program, and you're

742
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: getting a new playbook and you're learning everything. You know,

743
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: what they do in New Orleans, they get right to

744
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: work on what they didn't do yeah well last year

745
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: because they've had the same coach in the same quarterback

746
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: for so many years. And that's now what you're I

747
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: think going to be able to start seeing seeing the rams.

748
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: Do you know you have the same coach, you have

749
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: the same quarterback, You've got the same running back, you've

750
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: got the same left tackle. That offensive unit is going

751
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: to be able to come in and say, look, we

752
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: weren't the best at red zone offense last year, even

753
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: though we led the league in scoring. But let's get

754
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: better at that. We're going to be exactly. That's why

755
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: I never begrudge how much quarterbacks make. I only get

756
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: mad at you if you have a life. What do

757
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: you mean outside of you? Yeah? Yeah, I mean that's

758
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: why you should pay quarterbacks a lot of money, because

759
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have a life at all. It should be

760
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: just about football. What do you think of Kirk cousins

761
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: deal with Minnesota interestingly guaranteed contract. I'm interesting. I can't

762
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: wait to see how he plays. I want to see

763
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: if Jake Ruden is wrong. Huh Jake Ruden said that

764
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: what we're obviously better at quarterback. Now I think he

765
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: did say that. Really, Okay, that's I want to see.

766
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: I hope I hope Minnesota doesn't play Washington this year

767
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: because like, if you say that and they play you,

768
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: like that's going to get taken out on you. Well, yeah,

769
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: revenge games always happened that way. But I want to

770
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: see how he plays. Kirk Cousins plays in a new environment,

771
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: and let's see if Jay Gruden can turn Alex Smith

772
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: into something other than what he has been. But Alex

773
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: Smith has not been a bad quarterback, no, no, no no,

774
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: And he's been a good protector of the football. He

775
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: can sometimes throw the ball down field on occasion. But

776
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: if Alex Smith is rated here, then I always put

777
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins right about there on the same level. This

778
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: is a great Yeah, you're putting your hand now. If

779
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: you can look at that and say he's obviously better,

780
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: I'm laughing because, like I think the majority of our

781
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: offense listens to this, they do not necessarily watch it. So,

782
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: like when you're putting your hands up at the same level,

783
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: that is not very helpful. I'm sorry. Well, I'll let

784
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: you describe it. You do color right now. Well, DeMarco

785
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: has his hands just about at head level, thank you.

786
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: But both hands are at the same level. Yes. What

787
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: he's saying is that, basically, Kirk Cousins and Alex Smith

788
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: are the same to you, about the same, Yeah, yeah,

789
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: they're about the same guy, Yes, to me, So how

790
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: can one be how can you obviously be that much better?

791
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, it doesn't sounds like coach speak. Yeah, yeah,

792
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: we'll find out. So maybe you're just talking about Alex

793
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: Smith at that point. It could be I'm actually rooting

794
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins. Yeah, except for that game, any places,

795
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: except for when he plays against the Rams. But I

796
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: want to see how he plays. I hope he like

797
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: performs like Gangbusters. Yeah, I think I think that should

798
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: be interesting. Um So, turning to another thing, We've got

799
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: some rule changes. The biggest one obviously the catch rule.

800
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: Have you have you heard what this new catch rule entails?

801
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: I agree with I think dan Quinn said it. It's

802
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: going to create there's gonna be a lot more catches,

803
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: a lot more fumbles. Yes, seem so. I mean, and

804
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: that's fine. At least there's something definitive. But we're a

805
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: little closer to being a little more definitive out there

806
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: in the field. I think what you just said, it's

807
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: true is you're a little bit more You're a little

808
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: bit closer to being a little bit more definitive. I'll

809
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: go through what the catch rule now is. It entails

810
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: three things. Now, a control of the football be two

811
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: feet down or another body part down. So like in

812
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: you know in Tennessee where Cooper Cup catches and he

813
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: puts the knee down to make the rams go up

814
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty, that counts one knee. Shouting at people

815
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: in the stands, one knee, two feet I said that.

816
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: I turned to people in the press box and I

817
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: said the same thing. One kneeds two feet Yeah, yeah, okay.

818
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: I was trying to like I was doing this, like

819
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: read the rulebook, but didn't get it. Nobody nobody understood that. Yeah,

820
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: well good thing. We know the rules anyway. So but

821
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: the third thing is a football move such as a

822
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: third step, thank god, reaching or extending for the line

823
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: to game, or the ability to perform such an act.

824
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Ye see, where I kind of get hung up is

825
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: the ability to perform such an act that like, that

826
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: feels pretty subjective. But is it more subjective or less

827
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: subjective than you know, you need to control the ball

828
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: all the way to the when you make a catch

829
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: the middle of the field and you think you're about

830
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: to get hit, and sometimes that hit comes a half

831
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: a beat later than that receiver thinks he's just standing

832
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: there looking for it. Well, you had the ability to

833
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: make a move, you just didn't do it. Yeah, sure, yeah,

834
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: that your being stationary or not moving was up to you, right,

835
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: not the defense. So I'm glad that's gone back to

836
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: the offense. I thought that was that was unfair. Okay, yeah,

837
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: he had a chance to protect himself or he had

838
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: a chance to make a football move that should be

839
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: a catch not catch, or that's a fumble, right yeah.

840
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: So I oh, but to me at least, I kind

841
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: of and I know I'm in the minority on this,

842
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: but I felt like the catch rule was actually I

843
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: felt like it was easy to interpret because if you

844
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: have to have catch possession two feet and control the

845
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: ball all the way to the ground. That made sense

846
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: to me. I felt like I could define what was

847
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: and was not a catch pretty fairly. I got lost

848
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: towards the end of the year. There was there were

849
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: some catches I believe, I can't remember what the game.

850
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: I think it was, might have been Monday Night Catchum

851
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: catches it on the one or on the two, and

852
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: the guy turned towards the goal line and talking about

853
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: Jesse James tries to stick it over and the ball

854
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: comes out and they said it wasn't a catch. I

855
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: think you're talking about Jesse James, one of those Sunday

856
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't Steelers. Yeah, just wait a minute, now, he's

857
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: he's trying to score here. That's obviously catching control. He

858
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: just lost it. So that's not any completion. That's either

859
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: a touchdown or a fumble. Sure. Yeah, so that and

860
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: that is now I think what would be a catch

861
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: in Yes, you know, under this new rule. So so yeah,

862
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: every every now and then the rules kind of lose me. Yeah,

863
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this. Being out there with them

864
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: close to the officials, they can hear me. I can

865
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: hear them sometimes I'm within five yards of the call

866
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: and I missed it because either I'm blocked or it

867
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: just happened so quick. And I'm saying, there's no way

868
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: he caught that. And then I asked upstairs, Hey, what's

869
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: the replay? Say, oh, he caught it? Wow? Down here

870
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: looks like no way, But I mean it happens quick.

871
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: So anything that can help speed the game up, healthy

872
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: officials and just get the call, right, that's all. That's

873
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: all anybody's asking, Yes, yeah, or what do you think

874
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: of this targeting? This lowering your head rule? So the

875
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: rule now states it is a foul if a player

876
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his

877
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: helmet against an opponent, the player may be disqualified. Applies

878
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: to any player anywhere on the field. I'm gonna need

879
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: to see video. You're gonna have to show me with

880
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: video what you're talking about, because that seems real. Gray.

881
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: Who if can Todd Gurley lower his head into a guy? Right?

882
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: Is he ejected? I mean it sort of seems like

883
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: it any player anywhere on the field. Okay, See, you're

884
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: gonna have to show me video of what you're trying

885
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: to police, right, Yeah, Because I don't know what that means, right, Well,

886
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: I think one thing that came out about it was

887
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: the Ryan Shazier hit that he did that you know,

888
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: has left him partially paralyzed, at least to this point,

889
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: right that I think, and what I read was that

890
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: the rule is not necessarily circling back to him. It

891
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: wasn't just spurred on by him, but more or less

892
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: research that the NFL has done over the last few

893
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: years in order to try to take one of these

894
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: dangerous hits out of the game. But I think you're

895
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: right in that there is a need for some kind

896
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: of video in order to be like, all right, this

897
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: is what we're trying to prevent. And so it's not

898
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: just you know, Todd Gurley at the two yard line

899
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: and he's lowering his shoulder because he's trying to get

900
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: into score a touchdown and then that turns into a

901
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty and he's ejected. That's weird. LaMarcus join

902
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: her on the goal line, trying to stop a guy, right,

903
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: and he lowers his head right and drives a guy back. Okay,

904
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: is that now a penalty? Right? You know, I don't

905
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: get it. So you're gonna have to show me. It

906
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: seems like because sparing has always been against the rules, sparing, budding, ramming.

907
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: It's even there's a warning on the helmet, Yes there is. Yeah,

908
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: it's been there forever. But it seems like it's a

909
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: rewarding of a rule that's already been there unless there's

910
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: something new, right, Yeah, I don't know exactly what they

911
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: mean by that. Yeah, And so that's something that we're

912
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: going to have to figure out. A couple more rules

913
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: that I at least want to touch on. Kickoffs that

914
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: result in touchbacks are now permanently resulting in possessions starting

915
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 1: at the twenty five yard line. I've never liked that rule,

916
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: and I wish they would change it back. This is

917
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: not college. NFL offenses should be able to drive down

918
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: the field eighty yards. I know it's about kickoffs in like,

919
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: you don't want to give them the five yards? No?

920
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I like you, yeah? Good for well? I know, like,

921
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: are you surprised that like the side of a defense?

922
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: Good for you? Yeah? Oh, but I just feel like

923
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: that that started in college, and there was one of

924
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: the adjustments I had to make when I came out

925
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: of college, and then I started covering the NFL in

926
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. I think that was the last year of

927
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: this that it's the kickoffs. Excuse me, kickoffs resulting in

928
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: touchbacks still started at the twenty Okay, I'm with you,

929
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: NFL team should have to drive eighty yards. But I

930
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: have a defensive mentality, So flip it around to the

931
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: other side. I'm they're trying to entice you not to

932
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: bring the ball out. I know, so they're giving you

933
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: the extra five yards. I understand that for player safety.

934
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: I'll give you the five yards. That's the defensive side

935
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: of me speaking to you. Okay, I get it, because

936
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: my kickoff team is also out there. It's also just

937
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: as violent for the kickoff team as it is for

938
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: the returners. Absolutely, So Okay, if all I'm giving up

939
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: is five yards to prevent that prevent a concussion, a knockout,

940
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. But five yards is that's not nothing? Well,

941
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: I mean seventy five. Going seventy five yards instead of

942
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: eight yards is significant the perfect role. Do you still

943
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: have to go what what eight first downs to score

944
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: on me? Right? Okay, that's still gonna be hard. It's

945
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: not easy. Yeah, I mean Sean mcvay's offense might make

946
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: it look easy. Yeah it's still but yeah, no, it's

947
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: still it's still gonna be difficult. But I just I

948
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: don't know, I understand for players safety, why it's being done,

949
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, it basically you're saying, we don't want

950
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: to eliminate kick offs, but we want to make it

951
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: a little bit safer. But you know, then you have

952
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: coaches like John Possele who are like, I don't care, well,

953
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to take this out anyway, because you know,

954
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: if we have a good return roo like the Rams

955
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: do with Pharall Cooper, there's a chance he could bust one.

956
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: That's the other side of it too. I mean back

957
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: in the day, when you know kicker he's used to

958
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: you know, bang it to the the end line or

959
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: to the back of the end zone. Guys will still

960
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: bring it out. Yeah, if you've got a Devin Hester

961
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: back there, it doesn't matter, bring the thing out. So

962
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 1: maybe bringing it out to the twenty five isn't enough

963
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: for certain coaches or the talent you have. We're not

964
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: going to take it at the twenty five. We want

965
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: a chance to bring it all the way back to

966
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: the house. So it's up to you. It's up to

967
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: your kicker. Really that too. If you don't want him

968
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: to return it, make sure he puts it out. It out, yeah,

969
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: get it out of there. Yeah, exactly. Another new thing

970
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: that it excuse me. This authorizes the designated member of

971
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: the officiating Department to instruct on field game officials to

972
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: disqualify a player for a flagrant and non football act

973
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: when a foul that is called on the field. So basically,

974
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: they're saying that you can have somebody in the booth

975
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: or perhaps even in New York if they're watching the feed,

976
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: be like, hey, man, you gotta get that guy out

977
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: of here, man to inject that play. Okay. I never

978
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: liked this in golf. I thought that was just horrible

979
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: when people at home could call into golf tournaments and

980
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: rat on somebody. Oh yes, yeah that's Hey, what he

981
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: did was against the rules. Okay, but you're not here,

982
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah you're at home. Yeah, get out, Yeah, get out.

983
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: I do worry that, you know, somebody's seeing something on

984
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: a screen without sound could take a shove in the

985
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: face completely different than what it is. Sure, yeah, it

986
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: could be just I'm mushing you to have fun or

987
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: It's just two guys finishing a play and my hand

988
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: gets up there. But on TV it looks like I

989
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: punched you. Hey, make sure that guy's thrown out, you

990
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, I just I hope games

991
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: aren't affected by somebody who's not in the area. Yeah, not.

992
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: LENO will legislate that, all right. And another new rule,

993
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: teams no longer have to kick a point after touchdown

994
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: or go for two when there's a game winning touchdown

995
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: and time is expired. So that's nice. Good. No, they

996
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: didn't have to do that in overtime. But yeah, yeah,

997
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: we saw that in Minnesota at the end of that

998
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: playoff game between the Vikings and the Saints where Case

999
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: was leading the school chant you know my philosophy and

1000
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: overtime right, don't get there. Yeah ever, yeah, yeah that

1001
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: is Um, that is definitely true. All right. So a

1002
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: few more things before we get out of here. Um,

1003
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: it's been two years today since I moved to California,

1004
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: which I think is an interestingness. Wow to bring up. Yeah,

1005
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: and now have you changed? Yeah? How how have I changed?

1006
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: How have you changed? Really? I'd like to think that

1007
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: I have not changed as a person. I think I've

1008
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: grown a little bit that song. Go to the East Coast,

1009
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: but lead before it makes you too hard, Go to

1010
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: the West Coast, but leave before it makes you too soft. Huh. Yeah,

1011
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: I don't have you changed? How have I changed? That's

1012
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: a good question. I you know what, I didn't know

1013
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: how you would respond to me saying that. But like,

1014
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: I did not expect it to be that. I did

1015
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: not expect to have to like be deep about it.

1016
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: No matter what happens, whenever you leave, if you if

1017
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: you do decide to leave, yeah, you will always miss

1018
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: this place. Well, you will always miss it. I think

1019
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: I'll ask me then. This is kind of crazy for

1020
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: me to say, I think I will miss the weather,

1021
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: which is hilarious because I got another no. And here's

1022
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: the thing, Like I never minded the cold. Like I

1023
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: went back, got vans and board shorts. I did not

1024
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: have on vans and board shorts. I didn't even own

1025
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: a pair of vans and co No. But it's you

1026
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: know what it's been, Yeah, exactly. My bosses now like

1027
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: pointing to himself in this room because that's what he wears,

1028
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: and that's but um no, I think it's just been

1029
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting journey. Over the last two years,

1030
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: you know. And I don't remember exactly when you moved

1031
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: out to California, but it was around that same timeline.

1032
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: But I do know that March twenty eighth, you know,

1033
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: we hopped on the plane, a nice little Southwest flight

1034
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: and flew out here and didn't come back. Wow. Yeah,

1035
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: interesting it is. I'll take a one way flight to

1036
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: La Weird, right, yeah, right, exactly. You know, we've been

1037
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: out here ever since. But you know, you just look

1038
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: at the things that have happened, the changes that have

1039
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: been made in the last two years, you know, in

1040
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: and around this franchise. It's kind of amazing. You actually

1041
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: saw a division winner. I did, Yeah, I know. And

1042
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: the team is getting better, yes, a lot better. I

1043
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: played cover about what's going to happen in the next

1044
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: two years. No. I covered the first playoff game at

1045
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: the Coliseum since nineteen ninety two or ninety three, And

1046
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: I wish I could remember the correct correct year for that,

1047
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: But like that, that's something that's very historical, and that's

1048
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: something that I will always be able to take with me.

1049
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: So that's really cool. At some point, that could be

1050
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: the last thing you think about. What just that moment. Oh,

1051
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Speaker 1: because think about what's going to happen the next two years.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, it's yeah, it could be really really cool.

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Speaker 1: Exactly in the United Airlines Memorial Coliseum, right, it's currently

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Speaker 1: very much under construction. Have you seen any of these

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00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: pictures that I drove past it not too long ago? Yeah? Yeah, wow, yeah, wow,

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Speaker 1: that's what five billion it's going to look like. Oh

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Speaker 1: you're talking. I'm I was talking about the coliseum renovation.

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Speaker 1: I was going to bring up the stadium though, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about the stadium. I was just there

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Speaker 1: the other day. When is that Football FC you gonna

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Speaker 1: get started U in the next month? Because that looks awesome. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that looks awesome. And where we used to park at

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00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: the coliseum is now a hole. Yeah yeah, because it's

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Speaker 1: going to be like for um George Lucas's museum. Wow,

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Speaker 1: you didn't know that. I had no idea. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what that's going to be now. Wow. So good luck

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Speaker 1: to us trying to park. But I don't want to

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Speaker 1: really want to go to that museum because I assume

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00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of cool stuff. Throw

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Speaker 1: it down to be on game day and I don't answer,

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Speaker 1: you know where is? But yeah, no. The stadium also

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Speaker 1: is coming along really nicely, and I've not actually been

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00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: able to be down there lately, but the we've posted

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00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: an update on the rams dot com. You can go

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00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: definitely check that out, and it you're starting to be

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00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: able to see the makings of what this stadium is

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Speaker 1: going to be. Just looks awesome. It's fun. I mean

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Speaker 1: you you are actually building a team that's gonna go

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Speaker 1: with that stadium. That that's that's the fun party. You're

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Speaker 1: not just building this stadium and hoping yes, yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: going to be you know there there is good yes,

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00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: and you know, if all things go properly, you'll be

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Speaker 1: able to put a Lombardi right in front of it.

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Speaker 1: I know you're making a face. I shouldn't have pulled

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00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 1: this up yet, What is that? All right? So this

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00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: it's a I'm showing DeMarco pictures of Bacon. I tweeted

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Speaker 1: this out last night. You know, it's wacky question time.

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Speaker 1: We've almost been going for an hour, so this is

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Speaker 1: wacky question. Okay, So what I'm going to do is

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Speaker 1: I'm going I'm glad that was for me. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: if you're just looking at that in your spare time.

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00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't like no, But I tweeted this out last

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00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: night to the people, and a lot of people responded,

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00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: which bacon is perfect? And if you go to my

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00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: Twitter apt Miles A. Simmons, you will know what I'm

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00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: talking about. For you, DeMarco, which bacon ate bacon? Oh?

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00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: I forgot? You don't? Yeah? When I no, no, look

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Speaker 1: I've had enough bacon. I mean, I was a guy

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Speaker 1: for a long time, but when I did, four is

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Speaker 1: the correct answer. I feel like, yeah, that's that's cooked.

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Speaker 1: It is that's cooked and not burnt, right exactly, Because

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Speaker 1: people were responding to me with six, and I was like, dude,

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Speaker 1: why are you eating burnt bacon? I mean why I

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Speaker 1: would Yeah, I wouldn't even eat that, Like I'm not,

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Speaker 1: like I am not in the in the habit of

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00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: wasting bacon. Three and a half is what somebody else

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00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: responded to me. But there is no three and a

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00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: half option. Yeah, yeah, four, five, we got, we got

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Speaker 1: four and we've got another four in the st fire.

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Speaker 1: Five little crisper, little crisp beer. I'm not five right, No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: definitely not six. Six is too much because six would

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Speaker 1: be burnt. Okay, bacon and eggs. You want four? Am I? Right?

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Speaker 1: What are you eating? I would say, what almost four

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Speaker 1: and a half? Five? Yeah, you gotta get a crispy

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Speaker 1: Okay makes sense exactly, So five maybe for a blt,

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00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: but four um for that so um. Also, I do

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Speaker 1: want to say, have you ever watched the show and

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Speaker 1: This is US? No on NBC? No, you gotta watch it. Okay.

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Speaker 1: It's like it is so emotionally affecting and I think

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Speaker 1: you would enjoy it. Okay, this is US. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: all you hear about this deal? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's really good. Like I watched an episode last night

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Speaker 1: and it was like I was literally crying, like from

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Speaker 1: a TV show like E Like yes, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm like, why am I doing this

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Speaker 1: to myself? But like it was so good. It was

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Speaker 1: honestly one of the best hours of television I've ever

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Speaker 1: seen in and it's why Sterling K. Brown won the

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Speaker 1: Emmy a couple of years. I have a family already,

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Speaker 1: I lived through it every day. Well that's why I

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Speaker 1: need to watch it because I don't right, yes, no,

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Speaker 1: but it's really good by every day, every day? All right,

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Speaker 1: any party stots before we let the people know. I

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Speaker 1: just this is um. I can't wait for camp. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see those two, those three, uh, that

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Speaker 1: that defensive line group together. Um. I'm still excited for

1137
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Speaker 1: the draft, but not so much now with the moves

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Speaker 1: they've made. You asked me to begin the show. Am

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Speaker 1: I given less need a hand? Yes? Not really? This

1140
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Speaker 1: is this is his job. This is what you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to do. If you're the other thirty one that's not

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Speaker 1: bringing home on Lombardi, you're supposed to do things like this.

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Speaker 1: So am I surprised? Am I shocked? No? Am I happy? Absolutely? Okay,

1144
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Speaker 1: let's get planned all right? Well, I think that will

1145
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: be a good at place as any to leave us

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Speaker 1: off here on this episode of Between the Horns. Also

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Speaker 1: definitely want to note that the second episode of Behind

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Speaker 1: the Grind our Facebook watch show, will be premiering on

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Speaker 1: Facebook tomorrow night at six pm Pacific times. You watch

1150
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: the first one to Marco, I watched part of it,

1151
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: but I have a little girl. I can only watch

1152
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: so much daddy stuff. We're gonna show you the first

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Speaker 1: episode of Behind the Bad moment we leave this Studio.

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Speaker 1: You can definitely check that out on the RAMS Facebook page,

1155
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: or you can follow the show at Facebook dot com

1156
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: backslash rams Behind the Grind to get notified when the

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Speaker 1: episode premieres. So for DeMarco far I'm Miles Simmons. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for tuning into this. Between the Horns hope you haven't,

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Speaker 1: Haddy Ea