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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to forty seven,

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Speaker 1: episode four of Jo Daily's stay production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. That Thursday, July, which of course

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Speaker 1: means it is Yeah. Also Buffalo Soldiers Day. Okay, if

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Speaker 1: you're not familiar with the black like black regiments in

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Speaker 1: the Civil War, the Buffalo Soldiers, this is a day

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Speaker 1: to celebrate the the irony of having them fight for

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Speaker 1: their own liberation in the Civil War. But yes, heroes,

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Speaker 1: no less. Also National water Park Day, National Chili Dog Day.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if those two go together, because I

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Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, I mean those two go together, and

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Speaker 1: so like could go together on a good day, on

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Speaker 1: a bad day not so yeah, that was that like

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Speaker 1: potential disaster. But and also on National Milk Chocolate Day.

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Speaker 1: This is pretty pretty solid milk chocolate, not chocolate milk. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting no thosen't key holidays. I love a water park.

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Speaker 1: I just date a chili dog this past weekend at

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Speaker 1: Griffith Park at the snack Park Griffith Park adventurous and

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't get sick from it, So I

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Speaker 1: count that as a win I had I'm not joking

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Speaker 1: for hot dogs last night at the Dodgers. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you went to the Dodgers game. Did they win? By

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Speaker 1: the way, because now that I wear a Dodgers hat,

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Speaker 1: people will like wow, just look at me and be

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Speaker 1: like dah the fucking Dodgers. Right yeah, yeah, man about

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Speaker 1: those about that? You know, it's we we lost. That

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Speaker 1: was it was. It came close, but then fucking I

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Speaker 1: think it was like want soda or something like this

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Speaker 1: took us, took us home. But anyway, I had a

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Speaker 1: ton of g lizzies. So called me glizz Elda because

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Speaker 1: it's just NonStop glizzies over here. Were not even a day. Ok.

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Speaker 1: That was an a K A up Harrisif al right, Well,

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Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien, a K Mike Breen, Mike Breen,

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Speaker 1: Mike Breen, Mike Breen Curry hits the three and you

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Speaker 1: yell bang cursie of Schwitz at Schwitz eight on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my

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Speaker 1: co host, Mr Miles grad And I said, did you

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Speaker 1: go see anger management? He said, I did, but then

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Speaker 1: I walked out and as I recall, I equipped you're

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Speaker 1: a real tough guy. Then I put him in a

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Speaker 1: rear naked joke and Christie, I'm a Gucci mane at

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Speaker 1: Walpole House, just very accurately describing the tale of mile

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Speaker 1: high school classmate guy because they walked out of a

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Speaker 1: movie you hadn't seen. I don't know like and I

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Speaker 1: still can't speak to what in my weird We're all

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Speaker 1: going through some ship and adolescence. It just happened, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm not gonna blame it all

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Speaker 1: on nine eleven, but it certainly didn't help. Thank you well.

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Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined once again by a

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Speaker 1: very funny comedian, actor, presenter and host of the podcast

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Speaker 1: Probably Science. You know him from such things as TV.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Kersion. Hello, Hello, Matt, how are you doing. Hey?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm very good. I'm happy to be on

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Speaker 1: back on the show. How are you guys good? It's

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Speaker 1: I had no idea what a National Water Park Day.

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Speaker 1: I nearly went to a water park last week and

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Speaker 1: then decided against this, and now I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: let the side down. What happened, Well, I was in

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Speaker 1: Vegas and I was looking for things to do. During

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Speaker 1: the day and I couldn't. I couldn't muster enough support

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Speaker 1: from the other comics. And going going to water park

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Speaker 1: by yourself is suspicious at best. Yeah, or just always

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Speaker 1: be like, just like call out for a child, kid,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he's halfway down this right? Yeah? Have

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Speaker 1: you seen have you seen a kid? Just go down here?

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Speaker 1: I'll just look myself, man. Yeah, I'm just gonna write

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Speaker 1: a single writer, single writer. Yeah. Did you find your

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Speaker 1: go to a water park with goggles on? That's a

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Speaker 1: crazy yeah, goggles on a snorkel, snorkel, Yeah, if don't

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Speaker 1: on that same note, because so we we didn't go

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Speaker 1: was an American Ninja Warrior contest. It was at the

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Speaker 1: That's what I thought it was at the Orleans Arena,

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't televised, So I figured, like, some of

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Speaker 1: And then we get it there and all those Ninja

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Speaker 1: I think if you pay thirty bucks to watch children exercise,

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Speaker 1: you end up on a list. Yeah, for sure, and

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Speaker 1: we should definitely leave right now. Not even just being

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Speaker 1: I think that would be kind of fun to watch

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Speaker 1: we would have gone. If it was like five bucks

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Speaker 1: thirty dollars is a suspiciously high amount to pay, right,

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Speaker 1: especially if you don't exasizing children that we are not

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Speaker 1: to any of the contestants. Spending thirty dollars signals to

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Speaker 1: the world that you think it's worth the money, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that's where you have to defend yourself. You're like,

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Speaker 1: but thirty dollars, You're like, you know some of these

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Speaker 1: it would be like really impressive kids and then like

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Speaker 1: wildly dysfunctional families they're supporting them. Oh, they were like

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Speaker 1: didn't realize about the ninja warrior industrial complex that we're

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Speaker 1: else they're not going to have a shot ninja word stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they don't develop the muscles, right if you don't get

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Speaker 1: But if they're trying to get serious about Ninja Warrior,

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Speaker 1: It's all about American Ninja war don't do more the

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Speaker 1: you why just Donna Tello have an American accent. All right, Matt,

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Speaker 1: to talk about the ongoing PSI up being perpetrated by

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Speaker 1: the mainstream media trying to get us all to go

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Speaker 1: We will talk about impostor syndrome and whether that's actually

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Speaker 1: what's happening there, all of that plenty more. But first, Matt,

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Speaker 1: from your search history? So I've already given the game

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Speaker 1: Ninja Warrior Vegas. I can tell the other thing we

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Speaker 1: So Monster Jam, I don't even know that is. That

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Speaker 1: It's just a jam. Baby, We're just getting down at

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Speaker 1: Now it's just like really because you know, you're doing

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Speaker 1: gist of him, like what the fun is going on? Also,

425
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Speaker 1: Commercial Landlord of Commercial Landloading believe that people hate working remotely.

426
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Speaker 1: The young people do not like it as well. I

427
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Speaker 1: asked a group of ninth graders what they thought of

428
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: remote work. They don't funk with it, and it's like

429
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Speaker 1: that's not a good sample size. So in the last

430
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: two weeks now we're seeing fucking headlines like this. This

431
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Speaker 1: is from Bloomberg. Millions of Americans regret the great resignation. Uh.

432
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: Then Fortune magazine with the financial yes and comes through

433
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: with the great regret. Doesn't mean employers are off the

434
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: hook now, see this is I like to see this

435
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: balance that's coming out with pieces like this because the

436
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: first headline serves as an announcement that um, actually people

437
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: regret looking for better prospects and outcomes for their lives.

438
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: But keep in mind what they're when when you look

439
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 1: at this sort of sub headline, it says about one

440
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: quarter of job leavers rue the decision. Oh that's three

441
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: courts of people are glad they left their job. So really,

442
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: seventy five percent of people that left their jobs aren't

443
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: regretting it. Maybe that's the fucking headline, and I like

444
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: that they can use it because it's the American workforce.

445
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: It can sound like millions, but let's get a way

446
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: to get ahead of ourselves. You said that is higher

447
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: than I and I think most people would expect like that,

448
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: somebody leaving their job just because they're like, nah, fuck it,

449
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: like I don't really like this job and I'll find

450
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: something better. That seventy percent are like that actually worked

451
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: out is pretty like incredible, Like it is not what

452
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: I would expect. There's a lot of projection that also,

453
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: just like projecting desire and intention onto what's actually just

454
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: a pragmatism and expedientcly like just people who weren't being

455
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: paid for a job during the pandemic and weren't being

456
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: given benefits, stop doing that job and now a lot

457
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: of those benefits has been taken away. They need jobs

458
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: again and so have had to apply. It's going like, oh,

459
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: these people did this for this and did that. No,

460
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: they just they just did the normal thing that everyone

461
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: normally does, which is way up a basic pro and

462
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: con cost benefit analysis of I need to do this

463
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: job right now? Do not need to do this job right? Well,

464
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: look who needs rents? And so now it's actually too well.

465
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: At any given time, most people do the least bad

466
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: job that would give them enough money to be able

467
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: to survive. Like it just where that line is moves

468
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: up and down depending on circumstance. And that's what has happened.

469
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: That line has just moved up and down, I think, yeah,

470
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: And it's really just trying to have reckoned with the

471
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: like the fact that the initial shutdown from the pandemic

472
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: really gave people a moment to pause and like reset

473
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: their expectations for themselves. And guess what seventy percent of

474
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: those people were like I did, I made the right move,

475
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: and maybe the other twenty five probably fell into a

476
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: difference that you they might not be like, actually, I

477
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: actually went to a job I didn't like out of

478
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: necessity more so that I regret leaving it. So they're

479
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: still in the American workforce. It's not great. It's not

480
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: great out there, but like not at a Yeah, yeah,

481
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: it's not like everyone's just doing lu Ow's now also

482
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: that like, I mean, this is a net gain. People

483
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: leaving jobs they like for jobs they like more is

484
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: a net gain. And that was made possible by the

485
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: Great resignation, which was made possible by the government just

486
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: giving the least amount of assistance, just like a small

487
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: amount of assistance that would give people breathing room to

488
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: be like, all right, now I can actually like look

489
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: at my life and think about like things with like

490
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: some objectivity instead of just being sucking check to check

491
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: every single day. And like, I think about how much

492
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: happier that has made America overall. And the working from

493
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: home thing, Like I'm not a hunt persent advocate for

494
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: working the home. There were things that I think I

495
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 1: I I think writing rooms like TV writing rooms are

496
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: still better. I love being in a room with people

497
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: bouncing off them. I think the energy is still better

498
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: than being on zoom. But you don't need to be

499
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: in there all the time. You can do a lot

500
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: of it remotely and then have like the kind of

501
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: meetings and it's just hamming home. How much of most

502
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: jobs is just busy work and giving the appearance of working,

503
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: and how much of it is just bullshit as a result,

504
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's what the last two years have done.

505
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: One the thing else, it's just really pulled the curtains

506
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: back and just shown how much of most jobs is

507
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: acting the parts and completely unnecessary and showing willing Yeah,

508
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: exactly capitalistic pantomime basically for people to be like, yes, see,

509
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: I am creating value by typing on keyboard and then

510
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: talking to my friends for the rest of the other

511
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: six hours that I'm here. Yeah, it turns out I

512
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: can do this job in three hours a day, but

513
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: I have to still appear to be here eight hours

514
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: a day to give the justification for this job. But no,

515
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: why not just if they're getting the job done in

516
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: three hours, pay them for those three hours what you

517
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: would pay them for day hours. And that the last

518
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: time you were on I was I was out. But

519
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: that was before the pandemic. So you don't know this

520
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: about me. But before the pandemic, I had just a

521
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: slick to the side, hare do three piece suit at

522
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: all times, in a pocket watch that I would check

523
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: every nine seconds, take a deep breath and just mop

524
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: my brow a little bit, and then quill and furiously

525
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: writing down notes on your parchment's paper and then second

526
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: that won't do that, won't do um. But then this

527
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: like Fortune article is sort of like yes, ending it,

528
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: but trying to give like this it says the great

529
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: regret doesn't mean employers are off the hook, and what

530
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: they talk about me It says like, hey, just because

531
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: some of these people fucking regret trying to better their lives,

532
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you the employer can just fucking skate

533
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: by with your toxic workplace and like you know expectations

534
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: of employees, which is sort of like threatening the needle

535
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: in between where sort of like yes, ending the idea

536
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: that like a lot of people are regretting it, and

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00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure some people do, but then like sort of

538
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: giving maybe someone who's reading this the false sense of

539
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: security or like are being like, oh, okay, this this

540
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: sounds good because now they're sort of trying to signal

541
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: to the employer class that they have things that they

542
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: have to do in order for me to go back

543
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: to fucking toil for you know, a pittance when we're

544
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: trying to have a living wage. So it just sort

545
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: of it's interesting to see how like they all kind

546
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: of work together kind of be like all right. Now

547
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: we're in the new phase of saying people fucking regret

548
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: seeking better opportunities. Don't be too hard on them out there, fellas.

549
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: All right, we know they fucked up, all right, and

550
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: they know they fucked up, so just go easy, all right,

551
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: don't don't don't be trying to get them back to

552
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: work by offering better conditions and pay and then like

553
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: that because because so yeah, you know, let's let's let's

554
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: keep let's not let's not have any kind of inflation

555
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: of pay or a benefits or anything like that, no

556
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: better conditions, just we'll just we'll just keep everything the

557
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: same and everyone will eventually hopefully come back. There's this

558
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: other thing, right then, Fortune two weeks ago had the

559
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: this isn't the fucking same section. Many people who joined

560
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: the Great Resignation were credit and it means bosses can

561
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: take back power. What wow? Is that an opinion piece?

562
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: Like like, I'm really curious, Um, don't worry. What if

563
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: it's an opinion or analysis like it it's real, dude,

564
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: it's sucking real. And they go to this other thing

565
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: that they're saying, like, yeah, man, a lot of the

566
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: people who say they miss it, they miss their work family.

567
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: They work family. Oh my god, they're doing the thing.

568
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: They're legitimizing the CEO talking point of look, welcome, welcome

569
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: to the job. But really you're not being welcome to

570
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: a job. You're being uh welcomed to a family. We're

571
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: really a family around here, and as has been pointed out,

572
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: that means you're about to get fucked by whatever job

573
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: is telling you. You're a you're a family. Yeah, because

574
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: you can choose. You can't choose your family, right, Yeah, exactly,

575
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 1: that's a dysfunctional, abusive family where we actually don't truly

576
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: give a funk about you, but we pretend to and

577
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: you still have to like hang out with us, but

578
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't really get away with the get

579
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: away they think too is like this is really instructive

580
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: where they say they're like the people that regret it.

581
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: This is from this that articles as bosses can take

582
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: the power back. The biggest reason workers are feeling quitters

583
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: or more is that they gave notice without another job

584
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: lined up. Yep, yeah, that sounds that's again practical. That

585
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: sounds like the group of people who would be like

586
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: I funked out up. Huh, I just quit the job

587
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: and didn't have any other prospects signed up. Now, I

588
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: guess sometimes you quit because there's no fucking You're like,

589
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: there's no way I can continue at this job. But

590
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: that seems like pretty spot on for someone who like, so,

591
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: did you know of the people who were who quit

592
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: a job and not having a job lined up? Do

593
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: you regret that? And yeah? What like, yeah, that was bad?

594
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: And then they're saying like, look at this man. Now

595
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: you've got the opportunity for what they call quote boomerang

596
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: employees who will turn to daddy and some of those

597
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: people regret having like taken a dump in the CEO's

598
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: office and then the parking lockdown. Right, those guys regret

599
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: it ship on his laptop and then closed it on

600
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: the ship. It's like that I shouldn't have closed it

601
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: on the ship, and we might have been able to

602
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: salvage this thing. Yeah, because there's no amount of rice

603
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: that you can put that in now the yeah, yeah,

604
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: that's pretty much useless. But yeah, like, of all those

605
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: I honestly think that one fortune one that says like

606
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: just because people don't like, aren't you know, maybe only

607
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: three quarters of people don't regret going back doesn't mean

608
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: you can't, you know, adjust your shitty workplace. I mean

609
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: I think that at the end of the day, that

610
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: should be the one thing that if it does feel

611
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: like usable information for an employer, is that, like, dude,

612
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that most people fucking hate about a

613
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: job is the work culture or the office culture, or

614
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: if it's toxic or feels like there's no place for

615
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: them to be human. And also they're not paid enough

616
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: to have feel like they have any autonomy, right Jack,

617
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: you read if you're reading these other articles they say, dude,

618
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: some people don't care if they're not getting paid as much,

619
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: if the environment's chill enough and they like the people

620
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: they're around. It's like they get wild from a secession,

621
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: right from severance right right, right, it's just wild to read,

622
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: like just sort of how that's articulated to like to

623
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: these people to it's like, hey, dude, they'll fucking take

624
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: ship money if it's like more funzies, right, yeah, one

625
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: ping pong table is worth like year, right exactly? How

626
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: many what's your yeah, what's your bean bag? Being back

627
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: to like mono stool ratio on the office being back

628
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: to health insurance ratio like it also makes sense of

629
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: the fortune thing that like, they so they published the

630
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: article that was like transparently, openly and somewhat aggressively as sociopathic.

631
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: That was like employees regret quitting and now here's how

632
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: to pound and take advantage of them. And then like

633
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: somebody in their editorial room. Again we've talked about how

634
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: like people in journalism aren't like they they're not like

635
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: churned out by like the CIA there, you know, people

636
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: with souls and working brand. So somebody in their editorial

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Speaker 1: weeks later they churn out this one that is like

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Speaker 1: the great regret doesn't mean employers are off the hook,

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Speaker 1: so it's like that's their counterbalance. But it still takes

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Speaker 1: fuckers are so screwed. Man, Well, it still takes place

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Speaker 1: sun as seemed true that people will be reading about

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Speaker 1: definitely true. Doesn't mean that this other stuff isn't also valid,

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Speaker 1: but oh man, anyway, so continue to add the cave

648
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Speaker 1: for better outcomes for yourself, and don't listen listening to

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Speaker 1: fucking nonsense articles that are just meant to pacify people,

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Speaker 1: especially ones in articles named after billionaires who are only

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Speaker 1: euphemism for billions of dollars fortune euphemism for exploiting people's

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Speaker 1: lab Fortune magazine Soldier of m Never mind, All right,

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Speaker 1: let's say quickly, we'll be right back, and we're back.

655
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Speaker 1: So I've had this thing, uh kind of bounced around

656
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: my head about impostor syndrome for a while. I well, now,

657
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: so I read. I read a really cool article on

658
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: impostor syndrome and blood knife. This is a publication that

659
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: I highly recommend people check out. It's also the source

660
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: of that conversation we had a while back about the

661
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: complete like neutering and de sexualization of all like modern

662
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: blockbusters and like how the sex has just been complete

663
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: as characters and actors have gotten like more and more

664
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: buff and like indistinguishable from one another in terms of

665
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: like how what they look like in in movies. They've

666
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: just completely removed any sex from like the most popular

667
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: movies in America. Was a very interesting article. So they

668
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: have a new article on imposter syndrome that I thought

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Speaker 1: is it was really interesting. I think I feel like

670
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: it ties into our recent conversation on social media making

671
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Speaker 1: people unhappy about bullshit jobs. Yeah, about bullshit jobs. At

672
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: a conversation about Sunday scar ease. We actually had a

673
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: listener reach out after that conversation saying that like their

674
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: Sunday scaries went away when they went from you know,

675
00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: unfulfilling spreadsheet work basically helping employers make the case for

676
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: postponing people's raises to working on behavior tech for like

677
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: children with disabilities, which that that makes sense. It's like

678
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: when I started doing something that was like fulfilling and

679
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: that didn't pay as much, but it was like fulfilling

680
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: at a deeper level, I stopped having existential dread on Sundays.

681
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: So anyways, the the essay on impostor syndrome basically suggests

682
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: that we feel like impostors. Like It starts out with

683
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Speaker 1: talking about like Tina Fey and Meryl Streep are two

684
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Speaker 1: examples of people who are you know, Meryl Streep one

685
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: of the finest living American actors, Tina Fey one of

686
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: our greatest joke writers, and they've both talked about how

687
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: they feel like the impostors, and we've always just treated

688
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: it like it's a pathology of like, you know, the

689
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: difference between how great you are and how great people

690
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: say you are and then like you feel like on

691
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: the inside. And this essay basically positive that we feel

692
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Speaker 1: like impostors when we get success in the modern American system,

693
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: because the system itself is empty and basically designed to

694
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: like make rich people richer at the end of the day.

695
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: So is it kind of arguing that it's not that, say,

696
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Speaker 1: Tina Faie feels like an imposter as a creator of

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Speaker 1: TV and movies, of of comedic content, but she feels

698
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Speaker 1: like an impostor for being part of this Hollywood machine

699
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: because of her incredible talent at making TV and movies. Yeah,

700
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: and because like so it talks about how people who

701
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: suffer from impostor syndrome a lot of the time are

702
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 1: upwardly mobile. They're people who have experienced you know, They're

703
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: not the people who are like the CEO s Son

704
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Speaker 1: is not experiencing like impostor syndrome when the CEO makes

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00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: him ceoo because they've never known anything else. As people

706
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: who have like worked their way up and then they

707
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: get to that level and they're like, oh everyone is

708
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: suddenly like treating me or paying me in such a

709
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: way that like like I've like escaped the human condition.

710
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: But like I know all the people who I worked

711
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: with on the way up or more talented than any

712
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: of these dipshits like up here, and like I see

713
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: like how arbitrary the successes and like the you know,

714
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: the just the whole design of the system being you know,

715
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: designed to just deliver success via nepotism or via like

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00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: a college degree or something like that, like something that

717
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: is it's just a sense that like it delivers rewards

718
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: in a way that is like not doesn't make any sense.

719
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Speaker 1: And and like you can kind of take a moment

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Speaker 1: once you achieve success and be like, oh, this is

721
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: the whole thing is like bullshit. It's like, yeah, I

722
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: got here randomly like or it comes out and survivor's

723
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: guilt too, I know, for a lot of like marginalized

724
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: people to just like when you get up there manifests

725
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: and survivor's guilty, You're like, why me of all the people,

726
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: because I know other people who look like me or

727
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: come from similar circumstances who don't have a third of

728
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: the opportunity, and you begin to be like, well, then

729
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: what the funk do I have? Like maybe, but this

730
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: is bullshit. I've I've definitely experienced that myself, where I

731
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: was like felt guilt over the fact that I was

732
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Speaker 1: upwardly mobile and was like, well, what the fund does

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Speaker 1: that mean? And I think what's important though, to even

734
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: point out about imposter syndrome is that when that when

735
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Speaker 1: that the term was coined in the late seventies, the

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Speaker 1: people who did that study had they they didn't, They

737
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Speaker 1: didn't they never actually factored in like what like classism,

738
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: systemic racism, or like xenophobia, those kinds of biases, like

739
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: how that actually factors into how people experience to their

740
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: lives too, And like in the Harvard Business Review, they're

741
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: also saying like there's an interesting way to even look

742
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: at imposter syndrome, like there is that feeling where there's

743
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: like a disconnect between what value you feel you're providing

744
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: versus what you think is valuable. And then also this

745
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: idea that you will feel like naturally marginalized people, women

746
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: women of color will are going to feel like impostors

747
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: because they're just they're absent from representation in a lot

748
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: of these spaces, or they experience a lot of microaggressions

749
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: or just up just straight up aggression, racism, whatever when

750
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: they get to these positions. So that adds to this

751
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: feeling of feeling like oh shit, am I so am

752
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: I supposed to be here? And so it's like it's

753
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: very like multilayered, which is really interesting and like and

754
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people sort of advocate for it rather

755
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: than saying, hey, what's wrong with you? Why you got

756
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: imposter syndrome? It's like, why aren't we dealing with the

757
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: environment that's creating these people who are like very unsure

758
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: about themselves too, because that's a lot of this is

759
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: a reflection of the environments that people are like existing

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00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: and yeah, for sure, I mean like that. And they

761
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: also point out like those who have actual jobs that

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00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: make sense and produce genuine value for society, like teachers, farmers, firefighters, cooks,

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00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: truck drivers, make significantly less money, work under more dangerous conditions,

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Speaker 1: and are generally not the people who are struggling with

765
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: imposter syndrome. You know, I don't know that, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know a bunch of teachers who have in posted

767
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: syndrome as well, who are like in front of but

768
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: like I don't also I know you, like they're like

769
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: idiot friends who will be up with until like three

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00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: in the morning. They're like, oh God, I gotta teach

771
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: like French tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, and they're like, go, why

772
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: is anyone listening to me? Exactly. They're like they think

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00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: kind of like a responsible adults and an idiot. They're like,

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Speaker 1: I just bought a bunch of tickets to a kid's

775
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: Ninja Warrior event. Yeah. I mean, we recently talked about

776
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: like just this idea of like a lot of the

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00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: issues that we have attributed to, you know, different ills

778
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: coming like social media. We see a lot of stories

779
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: about social media, you know, caused people to be unhappy,

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00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: and the American workforce caused people to be unhappy. And

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00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: it's like I feel like it's all kind of part

782
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: of this modern just alt of like just you know

783
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: the condition where like existing inside a system that no

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00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: matter how much like you subscribe to like the Rise

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00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: and Grind and like I'm I'm on, you know, I

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00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: believe in the American dream type ship. Like there's a

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00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: part of you that can't be tricked. That might not

788
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: be conscious, it might not like be the part of

789
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: your brain that you even put language too, but like

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00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: you know it. And this article says about CEOs and

791
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: the marrow of their bones. They know their impostors too,

792
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: like when they're when they're like, yeah I should, I

793
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: should make like thousands times more money than like my

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00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: lowest level employee. You know, I'm definitely yeah, I'm definitely

795
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: five thousand times more important to the creation of this

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00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: car than the guy who puts the brakes on. Yah, yeah, exactly.

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00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: And like on social media, which I think we all

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00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: like kind of a lot a lot of us, I

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00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: would say, all I know, like some younger people who

800
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: have smartly just been like, oh yeah, I don't funk

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00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: with social media because so so toxic. But like you know,

802
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: social media, like you know, is making people unhappy and

803
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: the like, it's a gamable system that delivers no value

804
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: to the intended audience or the creator when you win.

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00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: Really you're competing to make the apps better at robbing

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00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: people of their free will. Like it's like I I

807
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: wish I was more online and some ways, and I

808
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: wish I was better at playing the game but because

809
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: it's it does have value. I've got friends who are

810
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: great comics who have found their audience through various social

811
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: media's and now people come out and see them live

812
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: and that, and they wouldn't have done otherwise, and that

813
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: makes me really happy for them. But there's upon me

814
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: that just bolts at all of that. Like I technically

815
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: have an Instagram. I post on it once every six

816
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: months or so when I remember to do it. I

817
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: used Twitter a lot more, and I wish I didn't.

818
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I love Twitter, but like it's I and

819
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: I think like part of what I like about Twitter

820
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: is it is the worst at marketing, Like it sucks

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00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: at marketing like that, I've never kicked on Twitter add

822
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: but like whereas Instagram, I like check Instagram once every

823
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and like almost like the the only

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00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: online ads that have ever gotten me to make up

825
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: purchase are on Instagram. Like, Instagram is a very powerful

826
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: marketing tool. And I don't know, like the QBC, but

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00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: yeah it's and it's not the Facebook. And it's creepy

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00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: how much Facebook knows about you. It's just creepy how

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00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: much it has and how they can triangulate it's like, oh,

830
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Speaker 1: it's like this person likes this food and like this

831
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: kind of music. Guess what they're gonna like this cooking

832
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: product something yea. And even more more specifically, like this

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00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: person was stood next to these three people at these

834
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: three times, so that yeh wants to buy this hat.

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Speaker 1: Oh God. The whole thing is being fueled by like

836
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: the collective brilliance of a extremely under employed generation that is,

837
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, smarter than any generation before. That's true of

838
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: like every new generation. And but like they you know,

839
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: all all the wealth is being hoarded by the older

840
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: generations and they're just you know, toiling away on these

841
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: social media projects that the wealth is being extracted to

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00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: like a handful of billionaires in a suburb of San Francisco.

843
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: And it's like that's it's not a justice system, which

844
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: in ton is ruining San Francisco right exactly. And it's

845
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: the whole you know, it's not that social media is

846
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: necessarily bad. It's not the people who feel like impostors

847
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: are impostors. It's that they are all feeling at some

848
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Speaker 1: level that they are, you know, the entire fabric of

849
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: the system they exist inside and strive to succeed in

850
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: is actually designed to make rich people and their kids

851
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: richer and keep other people from getting their money. And

852
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: like it's it's that simple, Like when you like more

853
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: and more, we're just seeing like, oh, that's it, Like

854
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: that's it all goes back to that, like they're affecting

855
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: the political system. And when you succeed, you realize that

856
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: probably more than you did when you were Like, we're

857
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: working your way up and if you've noticed the how

858
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: arbitrary and like pointless a lot of this ship is.

859
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I I also feel like we've

860
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: like specifically with regards to social media, we've lost our

861
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: free will more and more because it is like brilliantly

862
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 1: designed to market to us and then in a little direction.

863
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah just yeah, and you know replace what whatever you're wants,

864
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: Like it does not want you to be satisfied. It

865
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: wants you to, you know, feel unsatisfied and feel like

866
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: you need to purchase something in order to like whether

867
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: that's in a broad sense of like a purchase buy

868
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: into a lifestyle. Uh, it's our whole like inside like

869
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: that I kept thinking when I was like thinking about

870
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: about this the past couple of days of that part

871
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: in Stranger Things where they like cut the kid open

872
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: and it's like cotton balls inside, because it's like a

873
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: rep blicka thing, and like, I don't know it. I

874
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: think that is a potent metaphor because we are like

875
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: filled with artificial like metaphysical circuitry at this point. It's

876
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: just all it's all been packed in there and it's

877
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: like circus peanuts in the inside. I feel like sometimes

878
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: like it's just it feels a bit like because it's

879
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: not just keeping you unsatisfied, it's keeping you constantly anxious.

880
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: And it rives me a bit of the way that

881
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: people who are addicted to cigarettes, Like cigarettes don't actually

882
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: make you calm, They just reduced the uncalmness of craving

883
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: a cigarette. That's what it like. You don't need the

884
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: cigarette doesn't calm you down. It just stops. It just

885
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,479
Speaker 1: stops that tension and unpleasantness and anxiety you feel because

886
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: you have a craving finicotine. And then it's it's sated,

887
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: and it sort of does that same thing. It just

888
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: keeps you just on the edge of anxiety constantly, so

889
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: that it can then take away that anxiety from not

890
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,479
Speaker 1: having this thing. But it's not actually bringing you joy

891
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: and calmness, it's just bringing you the absence of that

892
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: lack of calmness, right, And I think that's probably at

893
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's what so many people

894
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: are like grappling with, is trying to like reconcile this,

895
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: like what you're told is how the world works and

896
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: who deserves what and who gets what, And then you

897
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: experience and you're like, wait, this is so fucking weird.

898
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: Like I think of just how hard I've liked like

899
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: how to work, to to try and find better jobs,

900
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: to try and like be in spaces or like I

901
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: could feel like I could use all of my talents properly.

902
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: And then you get to some places and you really

903
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 1: you begin to question. You're like, why can't everyone fucking

904
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: just be happy? Like why can't they why aren't they

905
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: able to pursue what they want to do? And why

906
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: is everything so fucking finite and not that we have

907
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: to live in a utopia or if like if you

908
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: want to be in the n b A, you can

909
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: be in the NBA, but at least have the like

910
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: freedom to pursue these things, and like we look and

911
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: that sort of in turn kicks off a whole examination

912
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: of like your life's circumstances and things like that, and

913
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, like if everything is so fucking arbitrary,

914
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: And because of that, it also feels like violence for

915
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: the people who aren't like somehow get a pull of

916
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: like a proper number in the cosmic lottery of like existing,

917
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: and then you're like, but then we're also sold this

918
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: thing of like, hey, everybody can experience happiness or whatever

919
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: or like have the living ways and things like that.

920
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: And then you look and you're like, that's not the

921
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: fucking case, So why the fund do I get it?

922
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: And I think that also sets off this other like

923
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: existential dilemma for some people too, as you look inward

924
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: and trying to like reckon all of these feelings, have

925
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: a reckoning with all these feelings. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

926
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 1: The social media is specifically, it's just like you're taking

927
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: the sharp and spear point of capitalism and sticking it

928
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: in your brain. Like the capitalism has gotten very good

929
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: at marketing and social media. He is like all of

930
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: those things like brought together, and it's just constantly like

931
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: it is the most like the closest that humanity has

932
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: come to the singularity because it's just using all of

933
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 1: our collective like brilliance and like the movement of human

934
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: thought and you know, applying it to itself and using

935
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: that to just like rob us of our free will

936
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: and uh. And you can find me on Twitter at macti,

937
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: Instagram at Matt on discool cushion. But I was literally

938
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: about to end the show and ask you where people

939
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: can find you so guilt all this stuff. No, But

940
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: I think that's what's interesting, right, is that there are

941
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: there are many levels of people who I think are

942
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: just in touch with their own anxieties, right, Like Matt,

943
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: you know yourself well enough, you're like, I don't know, man,

944
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: Like I wish I could use Twitter like I see

945
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: other people use it. But for me personally, I'm just

946
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: You're you're wired in a way where like it doesn't

947
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: quite you know, you're not seeing the benefits that you

948
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: would from using it. In fact, I'll even do things

949
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: like I'll move it over a screen in my on

950
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: my phone. You know, you know, I've got I've got

951
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: social media wrapps in a folder, and I'll move onto

952
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 1: page four of that folder and then three days later

953
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 1: my thumb reflex has just adapted to just go like okay,

954
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: when I open Twitter and out, like I tap on

955
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: the folder and then it's just one to three yeah

956
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: swipes instead of just one swipe, and it's just it's that,

957
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 1: and it's just it just becomes like a new automatic.

958
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: It takes an extra two days to learn the new

959
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: automatic move. And I had the same thing too, where

960
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: I was feeling like I just a certain part of me.

961
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: I was like, this is like I when I was younger,

962
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just using this to like stunt

963
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: on people all the time. That was all I was

964
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: using it. So I'm like, watch me be in this place,

965
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: watch me be with these people. And I was like,

966
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: this is from my fucking ego and it's like the

967
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: most temporary fleeting ship. And I was like, this isn't

968
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: really giving me anything of substance, but I enjoy like

969
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: seeing other people do things. And I try and put

970
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: myself in the bracket of like a social media user

971
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: who like knows their own limits with how it can

972
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: affect them and tries to like healthily navigate that. Then

973
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: you have people who are completely off of it, and

974
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: I think you also have people who are completely immersed

975
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: in it and might not actually be seeing what it's

976
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: what's happening to them, because self awareness doesn't come easily

977
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: or cheaply, and a lot, especially not now, and especially

978
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: when you're in the you know, grips of the most

979
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: powerful marketing tool in the history of the human civilization.

980
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: Right that that makes self awareness pretty pretty hard to

981
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: come by, right, And that's why I think I try

982
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: and like find the positives in it, and like what

983
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 1: you're talking about, Matt, too is like connecting to people,

984
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: like being able to disseminate ideas that are positive and

985
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: things like that, versus I still I'm trying to get

986
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: better curating my Twitter as well, Like I'm trying to

987
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: sort of on follow or even block any and the

988
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: thing that isn't just someone who shares interesting stories or

989
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: someone who shares funny jokes. Like just like trying. I'm trying.

990
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: I'm not with limited success, but I'm trying to get

991
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: out of the kind of like so he said this,

992
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: and he said that, and like you say, and then

993
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to dive in and just you know, don't

994
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: close someone to massage my ego just too, and then

995
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: they get angry and then like it's it's not a

996
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: healthy way to be, not at all. And I think

997
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: it's important to note to like, right, like you're gonna

998
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: we get so worked up by a fucking plastic rectangle

999
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: with glass on it, Yeah, we're not. If we put

1000
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: that down, we can experience like more you know, substantive

1001
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: deeper relationships with people and even strangers on the street.

1002
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: But like we let's not get carried away. Well, I

1003
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: mean I I tried. I high five strangers all the time.

1004
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: A lot of times I get left hanging. But well,

1005
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, it's realizing

1006
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: how much we're surrendering to like this, which which essentially

1007
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: is a device too, I think is another was an

1008
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: easier way for me to sort of contextualize what my

1009
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: relationship is it is to this. It's like, oh, I'm

1010
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: giving an outsized portion of my consciousness, my attention to

1011
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: this like allusion that I have on my phone, when

1012
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: I could be spending that time to just sort of

1013
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: be more present and to be more mindful and things

1014
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: that will help me, you know, actually navigate the chaos

1015
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: of our world than feeling inadequate constantly or not having

1016
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: the latest graphic jumper set. Yeah, I would just say

1017
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: the only piece of media you really need is this podcast.

1018
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: Thank you. That's don't worry about any anything else. You

1019
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: just need to listen to us twice a day. And

1020
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: uh yeah, and you're good, Matt. Truly a pleasure having

1021
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: you on the daily zeitgeists. Where can people find you

1022
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: and follow you? Well? Thanks? Yeah, it's being a joy.

1023
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me again. So yeah, like I said,

1024
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: Twitter at Matt Kushion or Instagram, I wish I'm technically

1025
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: on Matt Underscore Cushion. And then probably Science is my podcast.

1026
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: We go through the weekend science news with comedians, so

1027
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: probably Science on any all of the various podcast apps.

1028
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: How you feeling the web? The web pictures and what

1029
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: we're getting back from the web telescope. It's exciting. I

1030
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, I mean it's it's pretty cool. There

1031
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: was that worry that it might have been damaged a

1032
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: bit more than they first thought by micro meteorites, but

1033
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: looks like it's still giving some pretty amazing things. So yeah,

1034
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: it's it's very cool. Is there a tweet or some

1035
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: other work of social media you've been enjoying this is

1036
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: uh yeah, this is this is so dumb. But this

1037
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: is just a really stupid video. But it really made

1038
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: me laugh. For this comic Matt Heighten, who does various

1039
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: video he's just superimposed Riscie Sunach, who is one of

1040
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: the two people who may or may not be the

1041
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: next British Prime Minister into an episode of Eastend as well.

1042
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: He is doing a very bad job of pouring a

1043
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: point on a public meeting. Great junket. It's a it's

1044
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: really silly, it's really simple, and I love it. It's

1045
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: it's Riscie Sunac, politician trying to do the thing where

1046
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: he goes meets the public and looks natural and for

1047
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: some in Britain, by the way, this is just I

1048
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: don't think they do this in America. It's just a

1049
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: thing in Britain where politicians, you know, in American they

1050
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: might go and like eat a sandwich in a cafe

1051
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: or something like that, have a hot dog at the

1052
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: exactly and one of the things they have to do

1053
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: on that note if you're a British politician is stand

1054
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: behind a pub and pull a pint. And that's just

1055
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: a thing. And Rishi Sunach, who, by the way, I

1056
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: believe as teetotal and certainly looks out of place in

1057
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: any kind of pub setting, but he chose this as

1058
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: his place to do with the press. Junket is doing

1059
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: an incredibly bad and slow job of pulling a pint,

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Speaker 1: and he's just inter cut it with the soap opera

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Speaker 1: EastEnders with people standing in a pub looking furious at him,

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Speaker 1: and and yeah, I'll give you the link. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a delight, it's it's simple, it's stupid. It made me

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Speaker 1: laugh ound out. I always love those like cultural things

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Speaker 1: where like a politician like it's like you didn't fucking

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Speaker 1: kiss a baby, you didn't go to the fair to

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Speaker 1: eat a corn dog, you fucking commune, And I like you,

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Speaker 1: just like you didn't fucking pour a pint at the pub.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you did it. You did pour a pint, but

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Speaker 1: you did it slowly. It's like a while, Miles, where

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Speaker 1: can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram

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Speaker 1: at Miles of Gray. Check out the latest episode of

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Speaker 1: Miles and Jack Got Mad boost these Uh yeah, fantastic,

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Speaker 1: fantastic episode with Jasmine Watkins. Also check out if you

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Speaker 1: like fiance, Well why don't you check it out with me?

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Speaker 1: On four twenty day fiance with Sophia Alexandra the let's

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Speaker 1: see a couple of tweets out Like first one just

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Speaker 1: feels so accurate to all the sneakers and sneaker heads

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Speaker 1: out there. Camp arm Eric at Eric J underscore D

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Speaker 1: tweeted Nike's current business model is Hey, remember the ship

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Speaker 1: your parents wouldn't buy you when you were twelve? Well

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Speaker 1: here it is. We doubled the price, but you have

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Speaker 1: your own credit card now. Uh yeah, that's feels about

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Speaker 1: fucking accurate for me because I think as a kid,

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Speaker 1: when I whenever I wanted more than one pair of sneakers,

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Speaker 1: like a year, like for the school, your mom's like,

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Speaker 1: that's why you get a job, And that's why now

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Speaker 1: I have. That's how I justify all my sneakers. But

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to try. I'm quitting. I'm quitting. Another one

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Speaker 1: is from at Molly Lambert. The Great Molly Lambert tweeted

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Speaker 1: A cool thing I do now is when the Internet

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Speaker 1: isn't loading fast enough, I say, come on, Jack to

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Speaker 1: it in the Joe Biden voice, and you know there's

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01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: nothing better hitting up with a good old Biden Jack.

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Speaker 1: How you open pdf? Jack? Was that the quote from them,

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Speaker 1: how do you Open pdf? Jack? And I was. You

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Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien and

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Speaker 1: on mad Boost these with Miles Gray. That shows really fun.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of fun doing that show. Very stupid.

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Speaker 1: Go for the stupidity, stay for the fuego basketball take.

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Speaker 1: I just really like the shirts that go hard Twitter recently,

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Speaker 1: like one it was just a black shirt with white

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Speaker 1: writing that said Elvis is dead, Sinatra is dead, and

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Speaker 1: me I feel also not so good. Then there was

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Speaker 1: another one that was similar, designed single and ready to

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Speaker 1: get nervous around anyone I find attractive. You can find

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Speaker 1: us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily

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Speaker 1: Zeitgeist on Instagram, we have a Facebook fan page and

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Speaker 1: our website daily zeitgeist dot com, where we post our

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Speaker 1: episodes and our footnotes or we link off to the

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Speaker 1: information that we talked about today's episode, as well as

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Speaker 1: a song that we think you might enjoy. A song

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Speaker 1: do we think people might enjoy? Oh man, I mean

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about pet Sounds, right, one of

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Speaker 1: the fucking greatest albums of a well here, yeah, well

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Speaker 1: funk that we're actually gonna go out on this artist

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Speaker 1: called Not the Two's who I believe his rich what's

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Speaker 1: his real name? Something Maxie, And I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say the basketball there Tim Maxie. I know it was

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Speaker 1: a team Maxi, but I didn't want to go the

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Speaker 1: wrong way to exactly because like I would forget you

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Speaker 1: can call Therese Maxie, Tim Maxim Maxie, I know. And

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Speaker 1: I was about to cat Tim Maxi Tyrese Maxi, but

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Speaker 1: he okay, So he started. He's a producer and collaborated

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Speaker 1: with Kendrick Lamorrow Mr Brown Big Steppers, and you've probably

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Speaker 1: heard exactly Unified in Grief and basically like a theme

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Speaker 1: throughout the entire album. He's he's about to put out

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Speaker 1: some solo work under the name Not the Twos and

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Speaker 1: this track is called Paradise and if you you will

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Speaker 1: recognize the vocals very quickly. But he does it in

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Speaker 1: a very like his own way. He's like a multi

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Speaker 1: instrumentalist producer, and it's got this like kind of like

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Speaker 1: I get almost if if the Manson Family band had

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Speaker 1: like fucking swag, they might sound like this. Yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: check this out. This one's called Paradise by Not the

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Speaker 1: Twos had some much children ghosts in the in the

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Speaker 1: vocal arrangement and just like spooky drums the beaver. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: it's really it's a really dope track and I'm looking

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Speaker 1: very much forward to the rest of the work from

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Speaker 1: Not the Tubes. All right, Well, The Daily Zayke is

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Speaker 1: to do it for us this morning, back this afternoon

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Speaker 1: to tell you what's trending, and we will talk to

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Speaker 1: you all day and by bye.