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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,

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Speaker 1: Tommy Di Dario, I think I'm in a bromance with

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Speaker 1: today's guest. That guest is mister David Henry. The conversation

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Speaker 1: flowed a little too easily, as if I've known him

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Speaker 1: for my entire life. His energy is literally fire, and

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Speaker 1: you were in for a treat today. So David became

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Speaker 1: a household name, starring in Disney's Wizards of Waverley Place

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Speaker 1: alongside Selena Gomez, who together decided to bring that magical

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Speaker 1: world back. In Wizards Beyond Waverley Place, David is reprising

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Speaker 1: his role as Justin Russo in season two, which is

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Speaker 1: out right now. And he's just a creative mastermind. He acts,

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Speaker 1: he directs, he produces, and he even has a few

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Speaker 1: things cooking that you're gonna hear about today for the

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Speaker 1: Let's go baby. Okay, let's see if today we can

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Speaker 1: get David to say something that he has never said before.

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Speaker 1: David Henry, how are you, my man?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 1: How are you? I am fantastic. I'm so happy to

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Speaker 2: This is fun, this is really fun. Good to be

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Speaker 2: in your town.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you, thank You're happy to have you.

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Speaker 1: You have a lot going on, a lot of exciting things. Wait.

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Speaker 1: Did I just see we're traveling too? Or was that

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Speaker 1: a while ago?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I did a I did a travel show in Italy.

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Speaker 1: Oh my homeland. You're Italian, I'm Italian. I'm Italian as

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Speaker 1: well well part Okay. My family is a small town

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Speaker 1: called Dragonia by Naples. Okay, by Naples.

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Speaker 2: I'm Sicilian. Okay, all right, we're the Sicilians Napolitanos. Yah.

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Speaker 2: We got a thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that must have been affect.

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Speaker 2: That's true. It was awesome. Yeah, six weeks all over Italy.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like the Stanley Tucci, you know, travel

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Speaker 2: show that's about food all over Italy, except for us,

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Speaker 2: it's more about culture. So we're going behind the scenes,

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Speaker 2: asking like, why did they build these things? They'd be

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Speaker 2: dead by the time it was done. Why did they

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Speaker 2: build these things? And just understanding the ancient mind. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was fun. It was really deep and profound.

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Speaker 1: I love that We're going to Milan in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. One of the main reasons is to see

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Speaker 1: the last Uppercs. We always wanted to see that work

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Speaker 1: of art. We just gotta go.

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Speaker 2: You gotta go, you gotta go. You gotta see the

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Speaker 2: Duomo there too. Of course, the duomo wasn't dude. The

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Speaker 2: duomo blew my mind got. I got to the very

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Speaker 2: top of the duomo, and I recommend you go there.

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Speaker 2: There's statues up there that are so beautiful and so intricate.

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Speaker 2: If you're on the ground, you see you don't see

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Speaker 2: that they have veins in their arms. And I asked

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Speaker 2: our guide why it doesn't seem cost effective to put

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Speaker 2: And he turned me with a smile and he said,

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I like that, And I went whoa like that was

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Speaker 2: the mind of the artists back then, that they literally

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Speaker 1: That's cool, that's really cool. That's really cool. I love

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Speaker 1: that you got me psyched. Now I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: go all right, enough about my trip?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, sorry, we can talk for about mine. I know.

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Speaker 1: So people have been watching you for years, right, they

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Speaker 1: think they know you, but of course you live a

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Speaker 1: real human life. You're not your characters you play. So

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Speaker 1: to kick this off, I'm going to put my timer

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Speaker 1: on for thirty seconds. Love it, and I want you

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Speaker 1: to tell me who David Henry is in thirty seconds. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I love you, yes, and you will see my ready.

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Speaker 2: Okay, First and foremost, I am a husband, I'm a

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Speaker 2: Then after that, I love my job. I love what

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Speaker 1: Done well done. Okay, thirty on the spot. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: But that was a pretty good teah, those are the

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on everything going on in your life. I mean

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Speaker 1: season two is out of course of Wizards Beyond Waverley Place,

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Speaker 1: you have the travel show, a production company. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, right, exactly. It's it's one of those things

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Speaker 2: is really more important to me now than it's ever been,

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Speaker 2: just making sure that my life is on the right tracks.

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Speaker 2: It's easy to get derailed. It's easy to say yes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the world fell in love with you through

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Speaker 1: playing Justin Rousseau right and Wizards of Waverly, and it's

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Speaker 2: Sitcoms are a really beautiful thing. It's like problem and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, man. I mean that feeling of

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Speaker 2: What are your motivating And I talked to the parents too,

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Speaker 1: It's passion. Man, when you have a passion. You want

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Speaker 2: wracking because it's like did I screw up? What did

431
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 2: I do? What's going on? So when I directed, I

432
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: was like cut, and I'd always call out to the

433
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 2: actors why I was cutting, to take the tension out

434
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 2: of the room, you know, it's like cut camera problem,

435
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,159
Speaker 2: hold on, be back, and the actors would get to

436
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 2: get to relax in a minute. It's like, oh, I'm not

437
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 2: coming in and being you know, corrected. Just little things

438
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 2: like that. I knew how to make the actors feel

439
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 2: comfortable and yeah, it was. It was a blessing.

440
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 1: I like that you do that because so much of

441
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 1: the time people don't get feedback. Yeah, And it's like

442
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: we just want I mean you should just want to

443
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: know the why behind something, right.

444
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right that we want to be understood. Yeah,

445
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 2: And like a lot of times, as an actors, someone

446
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 2: will come in and just get you the note and

447
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 2: walk away, and it's like it just takes a little

448
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 2: more effort to give you the note behind the note. Yeah,

449
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: it's just a little more effort. Yeah, and I totally

450
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: focused on the why. And a lot of times it's

451
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: like I just want something different, and you could just

452
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 2: say that. It's like hey, so I would always come

453
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 2: in and be like we got that take good. You

454
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 2: give me exactly what I wanted. I want an alternative. Yeah,

455
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 2: So now I want you to try it this way,

456
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: where most directors will come in and give you the

457
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: this way, they'll come in and be like, be do A,

458
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 2: B and C, and then they leave and it's like, no,

459
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 2: just tell them, like, we got what we got. I

460
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 2: want something different. Now you didn't do bad before. I

461
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 2: want something different.

462
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: Well, it's clear that you're invested in how people feel

463
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 1: as well, and it's not just the job. It's like,

464
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: I want people to actually feel good. Who are in

465
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: my orbit, who I'm working with, who I'm friends with,

466
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, and even hearing how you so beautifully spoke

467
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: about Selena and her work ethic, Yes, you know, that

468
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: shows that you care about that stuff. And it's so

469
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: cool that you guys have maintained a friendship for all

470
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: these years, because in our business it's not always easy.

471
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 1: And you're on set with somebody and your best friends

472
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: and then you don't talk, and it's crazy. People lose,

473
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: you know, they don't want to make the effort. So

474
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: it's like, what was that? But you guys really have

475
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 1: maintained this amazing friendship. I mean, how has that evolved

476
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: for you over the years.

477
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: It's a great question because isn't it crazy how you

478
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: can go to a project with someone and you're the

479
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: best of friends. You're like, I've done so many projects

480
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: where I've worked with people and I'm like, this is

481
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 2: a friend for life, Like and then it just you

482
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: go home.

483
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: Like why are they not texting me back?

484
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

485
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: Right? Like what happened? Yeah?

486
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 2: And you just like disappear, You just fade away like

487
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 2: that is crazy. All actors have that experience, by the way,

488
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: I've had beers are so many actors where it's like, yeah,

489
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: we all had that experience. You hit it off at

490
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 2: some foreign location, you're in a foreign place, and then

491
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: you just leave and you never talk again. It's so weird.

492
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: But with Selena and I, I don't know, man, we

493
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: always had this like family thing. There's something a little deeper,

494
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: There's something a little more meaningful there because it was

495
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 2: such a coming of age experience for us both, you know,

496
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: like it was our high school, was our college like

497
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: all in one. So yeah, we just have this deeper

498
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 2: thing that like, and I think her in particular, like

499
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: anyone who's who's in her category. You it's hard to

500
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: make friends. It's so hard to make friends because everyone

501
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 2: wants something from you. People don't even realize they want

502
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 2: something from you, but they do want something from you.

503
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: And and she has a close knit circle of a

504
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: few of us that are people that she can go

505
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: do that have been like and I've been there for

506
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: her before anything, right like before she was she had anything.

507
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 2: So she just knows like for better or for worse.

508
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it to her straight. Yeah, like whatever,

509
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 2: that's valuable. Yeah, whatever the thing is right, Like, so

510
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 2: sometimes she wouldn't come to me on things because she

511
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: knows what she's gonna get from me, But a lot

512
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: of times she does. And it's been a beautiful friendship.

513
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: And now seeing her and my wife like get along

514
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: and have that girl connection.

515
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: Partners blind and actually love each other. When you have

516
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: someone meaningful in your life and they love each other,

517
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: that's the best feeling ever.

518
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: Yes, I totally agree. It does something to you, makes

519
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: you feel like I picked a good person, Like, yeah,

520
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: your your soulmate is hitting it off with someone you

521
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: really care for, and that's awesome to see. Awesome.

522
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool. It's it's also like a brother

523
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: and sisterhood too, right, Like you told her, with somebody

524
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: for that long, it's beyond a friendship. It's like it's family.

525
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's family exactly right.

526
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 2: That's how it feels that, you know, she can wear

527
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: pajamas over to my house and feel like she's like, yeah,

528
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: part of the family one hundred percent.

529
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Speaker 1: Did you get emotional at the wedding?

530
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Speaker 2: So I'm emotional because I have to tell you I wasn't.

531
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Speaker 1: Able to go to go.

532
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: It was really heartbreaking. My ever project. I'm gonna be

533
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: announcing soon I was out of the state and there

534
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 2: was just literally no way I could get back. We

535
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: talked all about the wedding. I gave her my best

536
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: advice someone told me on my wedding day, David, take

537
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 2: one minute, hold your spouse's hand and just look at

538
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: the room. And this This is like literally my only

539
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: memory that I have for my wedding because it was

540
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: so crazy. There's you know, weddings are nuts, so there's

541
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: so many things going on. Yeah, and like I took

542
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: that minute, like right before dinner started. Ife and I were

543
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: sitting at the table, and I go, this is our minute.

544
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: We held hands and we just looked at the room

545
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: and took everything in. Oh yeah, so and so is there.

546
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: Oh so I'm glad my grandparents are here. And like

547
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: we took the whole room in. I still know where

548
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: everyone's seated in my mind, I can see it. So

549
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, just take your minute, you know, and

550
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: just like look, take take everything in because her wedding,

551
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: you know, in particular, is just going to be you know,

552
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: off the charts, but yeah, I'm so heartbroken I couldn't.

553
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: That's good advice, though, that's really good advice. Weddings go

554
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: fast fast, I mean unbelievable. Yeah, I'm going to be

555
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: ten years in April married. Wow, but I still remember

556
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: every little piece nice because we took it in. Yeah,

557
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: we took it in. Yeah.

558
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: So smart, yeah, so smart? Right, because it is so

559
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: much going on in all directions that like you remember

560
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: these things?

561
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. We joke, we're like, we need another

562
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: one because I feel like I didn't miss quite a lot, right,

563
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: I look at pictures of what was going on there.

564
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: Why wasn't I in that conversation? Yeah? Oh that's awesome.

565
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: You're on your take a big, big fiftieth.

566
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: There we go, There we go. That would be fine.

567
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: You strike me as someone who gives a really good advice.

568
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: And you you because you seem to care, You seem

569
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: to genuinely have an interest in people, which I do too.

570
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: So why I began the show And I'm curious, is

571
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: there a piece of advice you wish you were given

572
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: when you were that eighteen year old as a Disney

573
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: star that you didn't get that you would pass on

574
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: to other generations.

575
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: That's a really good question. That's a really that's a

576
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: really deep question. Lots of things come to mind. I wish,

577
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: I wish someone. I wish someone grabbed me at that

578
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: age and really forced me to say, Hey, I want

579
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: you to get a mentor in your life. I want

580
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: you to find a mentor, and I want this person

581
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: to be everything that you hope to be in life,

582
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: someone you really respect, that's not your family, and I

583
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: want you to spend time with this mentor. I wish

584
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: someone would have given me a mentor, because now as

585
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: I've gotten older, I seek that out and I seek

586
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: out wisdom from guys that I when women that I

587
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: really respect, and that has meant a lot to me.

588
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: I've learned so much from mentorship, and I really wish

589
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: as a young person someone would have said like, Hey,

590
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: you need a mentor. Find a mentor, and that would

591
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: have What's great about a mentor is they've lived it.

592
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: They've just lived it, and they can give you thirty

593
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: years of what you're about to go through in whatever

594
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: your field is in a second. They can just sit

595
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: down with you and tell you the principles that will

596
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: help you weather the storms and will save you a

597
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: lot of heartache. So I wish someone would have sat

598
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: down and give me a mentor and said, find a mentor,

599
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: really find it. You must find a mentor.

600
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: I think that's so valuable in this dandage, especially with

601
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: social media and the disconnection happening so much in our world. Yes,

602
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: it's nothing beats you know, human and human connection and

603
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: learning from somebody, not learning from your phone. I mean, yes,

604
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: you can learn from your phone, but like not relying

605
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: on only that, but relying on someone who has actually

606
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: lived it.

607
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: Yes, CHATCHBT cannot be your mentor. No, no, you cannot

608
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 2: be your mentor. Okay, you're being mentored by a real person,

609
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: Like yes, you can sit down with have a couple

610
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 2: of coffee, you have a glass wine, whatever it is,

611
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: like on a regular basis, check in with this person

612
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: and tell them exactly how your life is going to

613
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: be brutally honest and uh yeah. The wisdom that I've

614
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: learned from guys, especially in regard to marriage too. It

615
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: doesn't just mean professionally, like personally too, Like yeah, I

616
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: don't mean business mentor, although that's great, but like more

617
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: personal like someone who who's who? Someone who who uh,

618
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: who's eyes, someone who's wisdom they can give you.

619
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: Hmmm, I like that. Yes, it's so important. I like,

620
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: especially getting older, you want to surround yourself with people

621
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: who who reflect your values, right and like who you

622
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: are inspired by and motivated buy and you're like, oh

623
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: my god, they make me a better friend or husband

624
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, like it.

625
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: It's so important one hundred percent, because whether we realize

626
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: it or not, we're constantly, constantly being mentored by the world.

627
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: So the world is just going no, no, no, no, no,

628
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: no no no, especially the phones, like you were just

629
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: talking about, We're constantly being bombarded, and you got to

630
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: clear that clutter. And a mentor can help you the

631
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: thing the knife that cuts through that and helps you go.

632
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: If I don't take control of my life the way

633
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: the world, the algorithm is, it's going to take control

634
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: of me. So like, yeah, a mentor I think is

635
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: ultimately important this day and age.

636
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. One hundred percent. You clearly like to

637
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: put out messages that matter and shape the world as

638
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: much as you can and a positive way, right, And

639
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: that's what mentors to. That's what you do through your work.

640
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: You have a production company yes, What kinds of things

641
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: do you want to do with that company? What stories

642
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: do you want to tell? I know your faith is

643
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: very important to you. Do you want to do more

644
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: faith based programming? What interests you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really see I want to make stuff for

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Speaker 2: my family, for my children. I really see an underserved

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Speaker 2: audience in the family and the faith and in the

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Speaker 2: value space. I think there's not a lot out there

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Speaker 2: for them. And I think the past ten years has

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Speaker 2: just been crazy for the world, right, And I think

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Speaker 2: especially during the pandemic, parents were sitting down with their

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Speaker 2: children and watching shows that they're watching, and people were like,

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Speaker 2: what is going on? Like maybe this doesn't necessarily reflect

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Speaker 2: my values, And so I think there's this massive problem

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Speaker 2: that I'm trying to solve with our content of just

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Speaker 2: going back to unitive content, just going back to themes

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Speaker 2: that brings the world together and that I feel like

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Speaker 2: there was a more of a common culture in the

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Speaker 2: you know, when I was growing up, we could all

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Speaker 2: sit down and watch things and it was just good

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Speaker 2: for everybody. So we just want to make old stories new.

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Speaker 2: That's why we named our company Novo, so it means

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Speaker 2: new in Latin. So we just want to take old,

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Speaker 2: timeless themes and represent them and make them new again.

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Speaker 2: So we have some really exciting things that we're working

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Speaker 2: on that I can tell you a little bit about.

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Speaker 2: We're making a kid's show, an animated show for kids

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Speaker 2: called Halo Heroes, which is like a time travel show

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Speaker 2: kind of like Wishbone Where or Wildcrats, where you go

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Speaker 2: back in time and you visit a historic saint. So

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Speaker 2: like people have heard of Valentine's Day, Patrick's Day, Christmas,

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Speaker 2: they don't know the real stories there, Like there are crazy,

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Speaker 2: intense adventures that I want to go on with these saints.

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Speaker 2: And so it's an animated show that goes back in

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Speaker 2: time and travels with them. We're actually doing it with

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Rumy who's Jesus and the Chosen, And we're excited

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Speaker 2: for that because we think there's a universe of great

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Speaker 2: stories out there, faith stories that haven't been told. Like

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Speaker 2: Valentine was like kind of a badass, like duck shucking

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Speaker 2: and driving through catacombs. It was illegal to marry people then,

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Speaker 2: like yeah, he was running from authorities, Like it's kind

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Speaker 2: of a badass. So like I want to tell that

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Speaker 2: epic adventure of Valentine or Nicholas, Saint Nicholas. He was

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Speaker 2: he'd literally gotten a fight with a guy and at

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Speaker 2: the Council of Nicea and like punched the guy in

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Speaker 2: the face, like his nose was broken because he was persecuted.

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Speaker 2: Like these are. There's some incredible, harrowing stories out there.

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Speaker 2: It's not Hallmark cards and you know, lollipops. Like, there's

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Speaker 2: some really cool stories. So I'm excited for that. There's

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Speaker 2: there's a few different things we're doing as well. We're yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can't announce that one yet, but anyways, yes, there's

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Speaker 2: there's some really exciting things we're working on.

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Speaker 1: So cool. I'm invested already. I want to watch it now,

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Speaker 1: let's go. That's amazing, Thank you, And I love to

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Speaker 1: see you light up when you talk about it, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you've you've done that throughout the whole interview, talking

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Speaker 1: about you know, lizards and the new series of it

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Speaker 1: and this, and it's so cool to see the passion

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Speaker 1: behind what you do because we all hope for that

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Speaker 1: in life, right we all hope for it. And if

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Speaker 1: even people listening who feel like they don't have it

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Speaker 1: with what they're doing now, hopefully there's a creative outlet

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Speaker 1: or another way to feel that because it's such a

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Speaker 1: beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: Totally agreed, Totally agreed. I think we've all been given

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Speaker 2: a talent. All of us have been given a talent,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, how do we find an access and

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Speaker 2: utilize that. Sometimes it can be your job or a hobby,

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Speaker 2: but like, we all have a talent, and it's like

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Speaker 2: you get peace when you are exercising that thing one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Oh, man, David, I feel like I could talk to

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Speaker 1: you for hours. I love it, but it's in the

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Speaker 1: interest of getting you out. You're busy, man, busy and booked.

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Speaker 1: I wrap up every interview with a question based off

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Speaker 1: the title of the show, which is I've never said

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Speaker 1: this before, And it was born because I cover a

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Speaker 1: lot of red carpets and junkets and you just don't

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Speaker 1: get a lot of time with people. And I'm all

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Speaker 1: about real, you know, human to human interaction and connection.

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Speaker 1: I think that's where you get the most beautiful moments

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Speaker 1: out of these conversations. So I ask every yuest, what

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Speaker 1: is one thing you've never said before? Whatever that means

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Speaker 1: to you, however you interpret it. It's a chance for

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Speaker 1: you to just say something that you want to say.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I think it's a great question. I

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Speaker 2: think we're going to see I thank you for this question,

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Speaker 2: because I think we're going to continue to see an

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Speaker 2: increase in unplugging. I think as time continues to evolve here,

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Speaker 2: I think unplugged trends are going to grow. I think

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Speaker 2: you're going to see unplugged parties and unplugged social gatherings

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Speaker 2: and unplugged bars and all sorts of things being popping up, because,

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Speaker 2: like I think it's really dangerous how plugged in we are.

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Speaker 2: So it's awesome that you want to do that, that

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Speaker 2: you recognize that and you want you want to plug in.

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Speaker 2: The thing that I would say is well, I mean

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Speaker 2: there's a couple of things. One is personal. One is

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Speaker 2: like more of a business thing. I haven't told anyone

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Speaker 2: this yet, but I'm writing a children's book which I'm

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Speaker 2: really excited about. My four year old son he comes

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Speaker 2: up to me and pesters me with one question specifically

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Speaker 2: and pestures the wrong word because I find it adorable

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Speaker 2: and it was good, but he peppers me with this

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Speaker 2: question all the time. He is God bigger than fill

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Speaker 2: in the blank, Like literally just the other day he

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Speaker 2: knew I was coming here, and he goes, Papa, is

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Speaker 2: God bigger than New York City? And it cracks me up.

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Speaker 2: There's a smile on my face every time is God

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Speaker 2: bigod in? At dinosaur? Is God bigod in dis much? Like?

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Speaker 2: He just constantly is hitting me with is God bigger than?

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Speaker 2: And it just came to me one day. I was like,

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Speaker 2: that's a kid's book, and like, what a beautiful way

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Speaker 2: to teach your kids about God. It is God bigger

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Speaker 2: than fill in the blank. So we're doing a kid's

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Speaker 2: book called Is God Bigger Than? I wrote it with

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Speaker 2: my wife and we rhyme in a response, so the

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Speaker 2: response is rhymed. And then at the very end of

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Speaker 2: the response, we put a little Bible verse, but we

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Speaker 2: don't say what the Bible verse is. We just say

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Speaker 2: the Bible verse he saw M such and such or

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Speaker 2: the Gospel of this. And at the very end of

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Speaker 2: the book there's a note to the reader from my

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Speaker 2: wife and I and we said, hey, hope you enjoyed

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Speaker 2: the book. Turn this into a Bible study with your kids,

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Speaker 2: So grab a Bible, go to the image they liked,

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Speaker 2: go to the verse and open it up and read

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Speaker 2: it with your kids and sit down there and take

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Speaker 2: it in. So we're so excited about this because we

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Speaker 2: think it's a way that you can really have fun

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Speaker 2: with your kids. First and foremost, the book's fun. It's silly.

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Speaker 2: It's God bigger than New York City, It's God bigger

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Speaker 2: than the biggest dinosaur. But then it starts to shift

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Speaker 2: like is God bigger than my fears? And if God

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Speaker 2: is that big, how can you hear me? So it

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Speaker 2: actually starts to get a little deep and what hopefully

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Speaker 2: ends on an emotional note. So I'm really really excited

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Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, really excited. I've never haven't told anyone

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 1: When does that want come out?

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Speaker 2: That's going to We're aiming for Christmas next year. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll get it a little earlier, but we're aiming

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Speaker 2: for Christmas next year. It's called the is God Bigger

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Speaker 2: Than the series?

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Speaker 1: Good for you, man, good for you? You keep surprising us.

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Speaker 1: What can't you do it? What can't you do?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: God? Am I feeling inadequate? Scenario? Croud?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, oh my God, that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm super psyched for all your success

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Speaker 1: and everything you have going on and Wizards Beyond, we

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Speaker 1: really play. Season two is out now. Everybody go go

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Speaker 1: streaming over and over again, and I just I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see what you keep doing.

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Speaker 2: Man. Thank you, bro, I really appreciate it. Thank you

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Speaker 2: guys for your time. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by me Tommy Dederio.

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Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio

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