1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: This is Mick Shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys out now Here are Bill Jones, Hecma, 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Harrison Everson, Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: It is eleven am on Monday, March ninth, and it's 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: time now to legally temper and the National Football League 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: about time. Welcome to mix Shots inside the SWBC podcast studio, and. 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 4: The time is now Temper time. It is. 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: I like that Temper time here on mix Shots. There's 12 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: your headline, Mickey, right there. Heckma gave you your headline. 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 5: No, it's the off season has finished. 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: It is, it's over, over done with Happy New Year 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 3: and officially starts at three o'clock on Wednesday, but unofficially 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: starts now. 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 4: I love it. 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 6: We can talk about everybody, anybody, Come on, Chris. 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, talk about who we lost, talk about who we 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 4: let get away? Who do we let get away? 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: Well, we don't know yet, that's what right now, now 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: it's happened. 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 6: They get away. 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 5: You don't want to talk about who you got? 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, he's looking at who we got away? 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 5: Who got away? 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: Crosby? 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, going back to Friday. 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: So you want I were ready to doubt meant. 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 3: Y'all looking at me like who we thought you were 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: talking about? The Cowboys? Unrestricted free agents? Who are getting away? 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 4: You see? 33 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 6: You know, man, I don't see. You don't seem like 34 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 6: a guy that's going to go outside of the budget 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 6: from what I've seen from you. 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 7: The way I no, no, no, no, and somebody I'm just 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 7: like even my old gear, I wear all my stuff 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 7: his face. 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 6: Now, I'm just saying, look, here's the thing, Everson Walls 40 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 6: don't have to buy nothing. Your money is no good 41 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 6: no matter where you go. So I'm sure you get 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 6: a bunch of free stuff. 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 5: And he's still costing the Cowboys problem. 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 6: Okay, it's just not a I wasn't even going there. 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 6: You opened the door for that. I'm just asking. I'm 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 6: just asking, did the two number ones at all to you? 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 6: Did you say, man, that that is too rich for 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 6: my blood? 49 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: At all? I do? 50 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 5: Okay, what did they tell you? 51 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: Don't get up? Can we talk about the guy we 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: got there? Good ball? Don't do that? That was man, 53 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: he was he was there for he was right there. 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: He was right there. 55 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 5: You had what you other budget? 56 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: No, no, I can't. If he were, we're gonna give 57 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: him two first rounders. Now we can't. We couldn't go 58 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: with that. 59 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: Could you give up number twelve in a player? 60 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: Yes? Here? Yes? Hell y? 61 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: Yes? 62 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 4: Yeah? Even problem with that which a second and the second? Yes? 63 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 5: And what was going to cost against the cap? 64 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: I don't know about that. Yeah, that's tough. 65 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: You know the problem with that is the Raiders didn't 66 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: accept that, so they took the Ravens offer. 67 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 4: They played us man. 68 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 6: They knew the whole time that they're gonna keep dangling 69 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 6: and dangling, and they knew and they knew that that 70 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 6: second number one pick was gonna come from somebody. And 71 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 6: finally Baltimore bit the cheese, and. 72 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: They knew the Cowboys was gonna be the what they 73 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 4: used to sucker everyone in Thank you knew. 74 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: When you then go to plan B free agency on 75 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: the time it was planned B free agency, Cowboys got 76 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: j Novachik and Plan B free agency about. 77 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: That was about the only good thing about playing B 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: free agency right there, because it was horrible Washington. Okay, 79 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: they didn't expect that to happen though. You can't tell 80 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: me they knew that, James. 81 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 5: Well, they threw the net in the water, right. 82 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: Right, see how that's right? That's right for nothing. 83 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: So the news breaks this morning, nothing official, but the 84 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: reports are the Cowboys acquiring Rashan Gary from the Green 85 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: Bay Packer. Yes, exchange for a twenty twenty seven fourth 86 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: round draft pick. He's got two years left on his contract, 87 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: former first round pick in twenty nineteen, number twelve overall, 88 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 3: just like Michael Parsons. 89 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 5: How about that? 90 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 4: There you go? So he went there to pair it 91 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 4: with Gary? 92 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 5: Correct, Well that's what they went with Gary, and then 93 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 5: they looked at their salary cap. 94 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: Right, maybe I can't afford, we can't afford. 95 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: They just traded out. They just trade out one player 96 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 4: for another. 97 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: Eleven million dollars. Or they saved nine and got hit 98 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 5: with eleven dead some well combination. 99 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: One of these one of these days, we'll figure out 100 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: everything that happened with the Mica trade, what the Cowboys 101 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: have used those It'll be like the herschel Walker trade. 102 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: What the Cowboy he's able to get in the herschel 103 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: Walker trade. It won't go to that magnitude. But now 104 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: you factor in Rashan Gary into the Michael part. 105 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: I know that means everyone's gonna make up their own narrative. 106 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 3: That's right. 107 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: We're gonna sew together some stuff that didn't make any 108 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: sense at all, but they're gonna make it go back 109 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 4: to the Kennedy assassination some kind of. 110 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: But to the point, Rashan Gary is a key pickup 111 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: from this Cowboys teams in the fact that they could 112 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: have used the Rashan Gary on this team last year, right. 113 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 6: And I think production was one thing maybe with Green Bay, 114 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 6: but also the fact that green Bay had a pretty 115 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 6: stout defense and a bunch of young guys that we're 116 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 6: gonna step in. Also not to mention that he is 117 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 6: a part of what's going to be a part of that. 118 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,559 Speaker 6: But I think you guys are right, Cap Casualty makes 119 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 6: his way to the Cowboys. Does he make that position 120 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 6: better from where we were? I believe that he does. 121 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 6: I think he's younger, and I'm comparing to Davian Clowney 122 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 6: right now, and so I really think that he was 123 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 6: a lot of times. What I've discovered when you bring 124 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 6: in guys late in the season and you call those 125 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 6: guys bridge players right, But for some reason with Jadavian, 126 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 6: it wasn't like that. This guy has played himself into 127 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 6: a second contract with the Cowboys all of those things. 128 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 6: But again, not to throw any dirt on him, I'm 129 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 6: just saying that I believe when you bring in a 130 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 6: Rashaan Gary, it's a better pickup. He's a sixty five 131 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 6: two sixty six. 132 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: And it doesn't take you out of if you feel 133 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: like Clowney is official, this defense doesn't take you out. 134 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and he's a defensive end that plays the run. Now, 135 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 5: we got this cloud over us. We talked about it 136 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 5: last week that you say you want to play a 137 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 5: three to four base, but you also have to play 138 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 5: a four man front on your nickel. You got to 139 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 5: have versatile guys on the outside. And Gary will play 140 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 5: the run right, and he can do that as a 141 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 5: three to four guy on the outside, and then transition 142 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 5: doesn't have to come off the field to transition into 143 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 5: a four to three defensive end that can rush the quarterback. 144 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 5: You would not trust Clowney in a three to four 145 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 5: outside backer, like, okay, you gotta set the edge. You're 146 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 5: playing the run. Oh, Michael Parsons, by the way, you 147 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 5: gotta set the edge because you got to play the run, 148 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 5: and so I think they got a more versatile defensive end. 149 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 5: Now they'll probably have to rework his eighteen million dollar 150 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 5: base salary, but he didn't have any more guarantees left 151 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: with two years left on the deal with the with 152 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 5: the Packers, so they could have just cut him. They 153 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: got a fourth round pick for it next year. So yeah, 154 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: I think scrific. It's firing from the future. 155 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: Of course, you know. 156 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 5: There's ways to borrow from the future. And it's not 157 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 5: just always money, it's it's draft choices too, right. 158 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna obviously we know this. It's gonna take 159 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: more than what you're talking about. 160 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 5: Right now, have just one guy. 161 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you can't. You can't. What you saw in 162 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 4: Green Bay, what you saw with some of the better 163 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: defenses that were in the NFL, you saw a unit. 164 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: You you saw units in the in the playoffs. The 165 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: dB knowes where he's supposed to be when that running 166 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 4: back comes in. I know I have to set the 167 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: edge here. I know who's going to be filling from here, 168 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: and just in case something goes down, I got my 169 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 4: safety exactly where he needs to be. The recognition on 170 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 4: the good defenses on their part came from a team standpoint. 171 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 4: It didn't come because they got one individual. Now, having 172 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 4: said that, when we did pick up Quinn and Clark 173 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 4: last year, all of a sudden, some things picked up. 174 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: You know, three game winning streak was really nice for 175 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: a while, but it didn't last. That's why we need 176 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: more than one player, and we need that depth on 177 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 4: this defense in order for us to be good. We 178 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: can't just have our starters. We got to have depth. 179 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: When guys come in the game, they need to fill 180 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: in and have that same philosophy, answer philosophy of team 181 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 4: attacking that the other teams have. 182 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 5: And you just answer your question why you would not 183 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 5: trade two first round picks for one guy because you 184 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 5: need too much, because you need both of those and 185 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 5: somebody else right. Uh so, now you still got that 186 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 5: opportunity to use that as one of them as a 187 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 5: trade maybe who knows, or you picked two guys, or 188 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 5: you trade down that second round, the second first round 189 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 5: pick and turn it into a Day two pick or two. 190 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 4: So we're not looking for styles anymore? 191 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 5: Then, well you can pick him with twelve. 192 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: No, can we still do? We still get styles? If 193 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: we can get him at twelve if. 194 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 5: You oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, if he's there, he won't 195 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 5: be he won't come on. But everybody you want, you're 196 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 5: already playing those stories. 197 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: Already did the Caleb story, degenerative need and all of that. 198 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: I said that story. It's shying to get all of that, 199 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: all of that. You're the one that did it. I 200 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 4: can I add to that. 201 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 6: I just you know, I think when you when you 202 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 6: make the everything that you just said, man, that's gospel. 203 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 6: As far as what the Dallas Cowboys need, Man, this 204 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 6: defense was so bad that this offseason, every take, every 205 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 6: opinion from every content creator, everybody that says something about 206 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboys, that's true every position. Right now, what 207 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 6: you've been asking for is how aggressive are they going 208 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 6: to be right away in free agency? 209 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: Hey? 210 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 6: First second, they are right in the trenches trying to 211 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 6: get a guy that I believe applies to what Christian 212 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 6: Parker wants to do. And I think that the draft 213 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 6: is going to follow that. But it's not going to 214 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 6: come down to just one guy. It's going to be 215 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 6: the multiple guys with the first round picks that you 216 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 6: have and if you can acquire any other picks, along 217 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 6: the way, who. 218 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: Picked edge rusher first? Which one of you guys? What 219 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 4: do you mean as far as I need? I picked 220 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 4: for first, second and third because I went I was 221 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 4: saying mid line back. I said mid line. 222 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 5: I had middle, edge, middle corner. Take your pick, and 223 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 5: you got to see who's available. You know, you can't say, okay, 224 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 5: I want this guy. And I keep hearing that, like, 225 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 5: and I know the safeties are big on everybody's mind, 226 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 5: so everybody goes, we got to have a safety. Okay, 227 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 5: So if you draft a safety, who am I giving 228 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 5: up on? 229 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: Like? 230 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 5: Who else is on the board? And you can't say that, right, 231 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 5: I just gotta have this guy. I want to know 232 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: who you're passing up. Get that guy in whatever position 233 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 5: right because they need so much. 234 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 4: Well, tamper, then tell me what guy you want. It's 235 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: Tampa dayam. You gotta have an idea who. 236 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 5: If I'm tampering, then these guys are going to be 237 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 5: unrestricted free agents. Okay, you know you can tamper with that. 238 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 6: I got a guy I'm gonna Tampa right now. I'm 239 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 6: gonna show you his picture. Hold on, get right there, 240 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 6: you can't that's Jakwan Brister plays for the Chicago Bears. Yeah, safety, 241 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 6: So hey, let's tamper with that guy right there. 242 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: He's the one I. 243 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 6: Mean in this we're going to talk about Jalen Thompson. 244 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 6: I've been hearing his name. There are a ton of 245 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 6: guys that are out there that feel, you know, fit 246 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 6: the mold of the kind of guy that you want. 247 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 6: And like you said, you can't have everybody, so you 248 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 6: have to be very clear on the kind of guy 249 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 6: that Christian Parker is going to fit into the system. 250 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 6: And I think he's one of those guys that fits 251 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 6: that system. 252 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 5: And remember, teams still have two days to resign their guys. 253 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 4: But we tampering right now though. Man, you can tell. 254 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 5: The team that they were with or were with can 255 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 5: tamper too. So it's not all cut and dry. 256 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: Well, they've had plenty of time to legally tamper with 257 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: those guys. 258 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, but sometimes deadlines. 259 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: Patrick remember, in fact, one of the great ones. He 260 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: wasn't an unrestricted free agent at the time. But remember 261 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: when DeMarcus Ware came down to decision day the eve 262 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: of the first day of the new business year of 263 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: the NFL. I remember my wife and daughter or at 264 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: a restaurant in South Lake and de Marcus where was there? 265 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 3: And they text me and they say, de where's here? 266 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 3: He's sitting right next to us. He's on the phone. 267 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, he's on the phone with his age 268 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: And like within the next twelve hours he was released 269 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: and he winds up signing. But it comes down to 270 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: that the Cowboys were going to go to your point, 271 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: they're negotiating with Dwear all the way into the deadline time. 272 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 3: And that's going on around the league right now, whether 273 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: it's unrestricted free agent guys or guys that like a 274 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: Rashan Gary, And it came D Day deadline day for 275 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: him back on Friday when it came out that he 276 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: was going to be released if he wasn't traded, and 277 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: now apparently the trade is happening. 278 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 4: Could you see that coming from even further away with 279 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 4: what was going on with Gary? 280 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, just from he. 281 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 4: Was having an issue. 282 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: Well when you you could see it when they've traded 283 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 3: for Michael Parsons in September. I mean, if you're taking 284 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: on a player that's over forty million dollars, then you 285 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: got to what. 286 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: Am I over here? Chopliver right? Yeah? 287 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: And at eight you just can't fit him. You just 288 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: can't fit him under their cap, which is the same 289 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 3: deal that the Cowboys were dealing with last year. And 290 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: then the guy that I think Rashaun Gary really replaces 291 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: on this roster is DeMarcus Lawrence. It's a year later, okay. 292 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: And so if if they if the Cowboys weren't dealing 293 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: with the whole Micah contract negotiations last year, d law 294 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: would have gotten a deal done here wouldn't have a 295 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: Super Bowl ring. But that's who he's That's basically who 296 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: he's replacing. And you got to have those type guys 297 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: on your team. But even statistically you look at Gary's career, 298 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: compare it to d Law and as Mickey pointed out 299 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: his willingness to play the run. 300 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: I was going to say, what is his attitude? I mean, 301 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: you know, when you talk about you need that guy 302 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 4: on your defense, is he that is he that all 303 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: in guy, you know? Or is he like what we 304 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: were trying to say about partions before he left. 305 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 5: The only concern I've seen about him is, and I'm 306 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 5: not sure what happened, maybe Parson stole the sacks. He 307 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 5: had seven and a half sacks the first half of 308 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 5: the season and he didn't have any more. So maybe 309 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 5: Parson hogged up the sacks or whatever. 310 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: But even to that point, the Law wasn't a huge 311 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: sall right. 312 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 6: You know, you didn't even ask him to be that 313 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 6: kind of player. You wanted him more against the run. 314 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 6: But people don't even factor in when they talk about 315 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 6: Gary the fact that the Green Bay Packers had so 316 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 6: many injuries on defense down the stretch also, and he 317 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 6: was one of the only guys that they had. Now, 318 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 6: for guys like you, you probably like, hey, that's time to shine. 319 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 6: I want to see what you have. But I mean, 320 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 6: when you have those big pieces that are missing out 321 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 6: of a defens tend to struggle. 322 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: And the team struggled as well. Right when he wasn't 323 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 4: getting sacks, the team was struggling. So that's something I 324 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: guess you could pay attention to. 325 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: It's like the old Jim Jeffcoat. Okay, when Charles Haley 326 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: comes here and now Jeff Coat sack totals are going up, 327 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: you know. And so when Mark Micah is healthy the 328 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: first half of the season last year, Rashwan's at a 329 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: pace to get you have a fifteen sax season the 330 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: first half of the year. 331 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: So how does this effect as Araku. You know, coming 332 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: off of the injuries, they. 333 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 5: Need defensive ends. Who else is playing defensive end for. 334 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: They still need even with us, even with the trade 335 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: for Rashaun Garry, they still need defensive ends. 336 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 6: Oh it's tampering time, guys. Let's talk about it. Anybody 337 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 6: on the on the free agency list that you look 338 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 6: at and say, hey, we got it. We need a 339 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 6: guy like that that could fit this defense. Anybody coming 340 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 6: from Philly, I'll go first. Jayalen Phillips, defensive end from Miami. 341 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 6: We like Miami events right now. 342 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: We'll see when when they redo Rashaan Gary's contract and 343 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: see what his hit is on the salary cap. Jalen 344 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: Phillips is a guy that you're in the twenty five 345 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: million dollar range to thirty million dollar range whatever on 346 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: your So what's your mentality? 347 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 6: Is your mentality win today because of Dak's age. Are 348 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 6: you saying, look, we're still building these pieces and puts mentality? 349 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: I think, well, you've got a salary cat for sure, 350 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 5: right and they're trying to clear money to just get 351 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 5: under it in time for Wednesday. So what's great? Jalen 352 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 5: Phillips wonderful, But what's he going to cost me? 353 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 6: That's right? 354 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 5: And what else is he going to cost me? 355 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: From getting to your point, he fits though, I mean 356 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 3: he does. You got Gary on on set, you got 357 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: Phillips on the other side, you got young guy as 358 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 3: a Raku who by the way, is coming off surgery 359 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: and not going to be ready until August to begin with, 360 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 3: and uh, they definitely could use that. Now, the question 361 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: is can you fit? And to that point too, the 362 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: Cowboys are doing stuff with restructuring of contracts, including one 363 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 3: this morning with Terrence Steele and freeze up Emily Cooker 364 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: as well. That frees up some money where you can 365 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: now do business. The whole deal is you have to 366 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: get this roster in a position by draft day where 367 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: they can go win football games before you even draft 368 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: a player, and then you can be true to your 369 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: draft board. 370 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 6: To that end, My only question is if we're it's 371 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 6: gonna be are you getting an impact guy? 372 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 4: Are we Are we going. 373 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 6: To the draft for this player saying that, hey man, 374 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 6: we're gonna put the line out there and hopefully this 375 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 6: guy is the kind of player that we can that 376 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 6: gives us the identity that we're looking for in Christian 377 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 6: Parker's system, or are you gonna go with the proven 378 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 6: commodity like a guy like a Jalen Phillips. That's gonna 379 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 6: cost you more. 380 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 5: Okay, So if you had your choice Jalen Phillips or 381 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: NA Kobe Dean, you can only have one. Yeah, from 382 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 5: a financial standpoint. 383 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: Some one's gonna cost about twice as much the other. 384 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 4: We damn it. 385 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 6: I can't say both, all right, I can't. All right, 386 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 6: So look, I'm gonna say Jalen Phillips. I'm gonna I'm 387 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 6: gonna say Jalen Phillips. 388 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 4: And he's ready now, He's ready now. 389 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 6: And when I look at the Kobe Dean, I'm talking 390 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 6: about the injuries and things like that that may impact 391 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 6: why he's being let go from Philly. Look, I'm just 392 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 6: saying there's a mind state that comes down every free 393 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 6: agency period, and you see teams take advantage all thirty 394 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 6: two teams have to deal with the salary cap. They 395 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 6: look at it differently. You saw how Seattle went it 396 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 6: went about it. They went out, they knew exactly what 397 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 6: guys they wanted, and they knew what guys they were 398 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 6: gonna get rid of. I'm just asking the question, what 399 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 6: type of guy you're going after? Guys that can help 400 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 6: you game changers, big game hunters. Are you just putting 401 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 6: bridge players in players because we've done that in the past. 402 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: Does it have to be either or? I mean, but 403 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 4: that's the number one thing the teams try to do. 404 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: They try they try to balance it out, you know, 405 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 4: draft choices versus free agency veterans versus young guys. Do 406 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 4: you can you do both? Can we do both here? 407 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 4: With the youth that we have on this team? How 408 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 4: far out there do we have to get before we 409 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: show this day? 410 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 5: I think if you spend money in free agency on 411 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 5: one guy, then you better draft the other guy you 412 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: need in the draft because it's cheaper and with a 413 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 5: twelfth pick you probably have your choice. So but I 414 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 5: just don't know that you can get every available best 415 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 5: guy right. 416 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: But that's not going to happen nothing the agency. 417 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 5: But people think you can, Oh, you're borrowing from the future. 418 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 5: You realize how much they've borrowed from the future to 419 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 5: restructure Dak's contract and he's got voidable contracts that they 420 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 5: got to account money for all the way to twenty 421 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 5: thirty two. Think about that. That is borrowing. 422 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 6: Well, look, you can blame that on fantasy football. Fantasy 423 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 6: football made it where everybody thinks that you could go 424 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 6: out there and get the best players available. But all 425 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 6: I'm saying is the type of players that are going 426 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 6: to fit into Christian Parker's system. That's all who can 427 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 6: help this defense out right away. 428 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 4: You don't necessarily have to. I want to be cautious. 429 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 4: And when I say this, you don't have to go 430 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: out and start replacing guys. There are times when a 431 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: player who was averaged last year can play so much 432 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 4: better with a damn good player next to him. There 433 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: are times when a player that was averaged last year, 434 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 4: all he needs is a system where. 435 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 6: He can thrive in make a chance opportunity, I'm telling you, 436 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 6: and it. 437 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 4: Has to be a different system, and all of a 438 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 4: sudden he's thriving. It happens all the time. So we 439 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 4: that's where the coaches come in after DC. You gotta 440 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 4: know which guy is good for your system. So whatever 441 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: he comes in here with, you know, he have to 442 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 4: knows what kind of players he want already before they 443 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 4: even signing these guys. I want him, him and him. 444 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 5: So I was just curious when I saw the what 445 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 5: supposedly was the trade for Max Crosby that they had 446 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 5: a player involved. What excess player on this team? Did 447 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 5: they say, Okay, we don't need that any choices? 448 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: Well, on defense you could say that a lot. 449 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, I could have put two guys. I got names, Mickey, 450 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 6: I just won. 451 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 4: That's supposed to be. 452 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 5: Who would you offer that? They would say, oh, yeah, right, I'm. 453 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 4: Asking we could pick it, but would they take it? 454 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 4: And I don't need them right? 455 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 5: So anyway, I just thought i'd throw that out there. 456 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: But what would it be? 457 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 3: Someone that you help fit Max Crosby under your salary 458 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 3: cap So you're shedding a salary. 459 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 5: Salary, Yeah, one of those defensive tackles. 460 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so. 461 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 4: Don't do that. 462 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 5: And they've got to rework their contracts also base salaries 463 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 5: for restructures. Because it's Kenny Clark's got eleven million dollar 464 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 5: roster bonus which gets him to twenty one million for 465 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 5: this year, they would probably like to reduce that. 466 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: So just wrapping up the Rashaan Gary trade, yes, okay, 467 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: so when you look at the edge rushers, the edge 468 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: rush situation on this team where you now have Rashan 469 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: Gary Donovan Azaku and James Houston. Basically, Okay, you need 470 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: another edge rusher, right, yes, Rashaan Gary the way I 471 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: look at him, Anthony Spencer was a hell of a 472 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: football player. And Anthony Spencer was the robin to DeMarcus Ware. Okay, 473 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence was the base defensive end in a four 474 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: to three and Randy Gregory was supposed to be the 475 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: DeMarcus Whare. Okay, you've got your Anthony Spencer, You've got 476 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: your DeMarcus Lawrence. You still need that elite fifteen Sack 477 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: of year guy. And you've got to figure out where 478 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: that's going to come from. And you know, does it 479 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: come from multiple players? Does it come from someone you 480 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 3: can draft? Does it because. 481 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 5: Someone to get that sign and hope he still blossoms. 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And before 532 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: we get to that wide receiver news, the breaking news 533 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 3: to Kansas City Super Bowl MVP running back Kenneth Walker 534 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 3: of the Seattle Seahawks has agreed to terms with the 535 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. 536 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 6: And this guy goes from heaven to heaven, doesn't he? 537 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: Wow, thanks coach Pat, give it to me right here. 538 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 5: But actually and showed the injury he was in purgatory. 539 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we hey man, things changed like Joseph in the Bible. 540 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 6: That's awesome. 541 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 4: What a pickup by Kansas City. 542 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 6: I thought Kansas City was going into the draft, the 543 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 6: draft looking for a running back and no. 544 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 5: Probably could have had him at nine. Well if that's 545 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 5: who they wanted. 546 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: Uh, And then Kansas City's got the number nine and 547 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: number twenty nine pick in the first round after dealing 548 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: your guy, Trent McDuffie, the corner back to the Chargers. Right, Rams, 549 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: I'm sorry the Rams, and uh he got for you? 550 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 6: Tell what he got? 551 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: Four years? Four years? 552 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 4: I just I just if I'm not mistaken. I remember 553 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: a bunch of dbs in red running back behind a 554 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 4: bunch of wide receivers in white when Kansas City came 555 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: to town, and I know he was one of those DB's. 556 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 4: I did not. I was not impressed, and I did 557 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 4: not know that he was this free agent to get 558 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 4: reset the market. 559 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: He wasn't and he wasn't a free agent. He was traded. 560 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 5: But to your point, but you never know how much 561 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 5: money stuffed at the end of the he got one 562 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 5: hundred guaranteed? 563 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: Did I miss something? 564 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 6: Do you ever just sit on your caup sometime and 565 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 6: say I was born at the roads. 566 00:28:51,920 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 4: But how many people can say that? So? How good 567 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 4: is this guy? I was not impressed into town. I 568 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: was not impressed at all. I know who was picking 569 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 4: is catching all his passes on mc duffy. I mean 570 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 4: that's all I saw. Yeah, I mean I saw I 571 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: saw a guy back there. He looked lost. He looked 572 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 4: as losses I DB's looked all season long, and I 573 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: was very surprised that this was the guy to get. So, 574 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 4: you know, color me stupid, I guess. 575 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 5: Well, just you got to see how the contract. 576 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 4: I want to see his talent it's written. I want 577 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 4: to see his. 578 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 5: Talent how it's written out. Yeah, because like knowing factors 579 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 5: in that Micah's uh Parsons contract with the Packers the 580 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 5: last year non guaranteed base salary forty three million. He 581 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 5: ain't playing for that, right, That's either got to be 582 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: redone or it's bye bye. 583 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 4: Right. 584 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 5: So, and do you trust him to get to the 585 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 5: final of his four years that he really wants to 586 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 5: play because I wouldn't have tru them with that much guaranteed? 587 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 6: How did you put Micah back in that? How did 588 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 6: you do that? 589 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 4: How did that happen? I? How did you? 590 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 6: Mike is sitting over at chilly with a boot on 591 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 6: his knee, all of it. 592 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: Bitting on the podcast cat. 593 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: Okay, So, speaking of four years, one hundred and sixteen, 594 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 3: spending four years, one hundred and sixteen million, Michael's like, 595 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: what was twenty nine million dollars a year? The Indianapolis 596 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: Colts are keeping their wide receiver Alec Pearce four years, 597 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: one hundred and sixteen million dollars and twenty nine million 598 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: dollars a year. Alec Pierce last year for the Colts 599 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: had forty seven catches for one thousand yards and six touchdowns. 600 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 6: You teased at the break that this is gonna have 601 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 6: something to do with George Picks. 602 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: It is twenty nine million dollars. Twenty nine million. 603 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: They just paid twenty nine million dollars a year for 604 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: a receiver who had last year, in fifteen games, forty 605 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: seven catches for one thousand yards and six touchdowns. In 606 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: his career. Four year career, Alec Pierce has one hundred 607 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: and fifty seven catches for two thousand nine or thirty 608 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 3: four yards and seventeen touchdowns. George Pickens this year in 609 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: seventeen games, had ninety three catches for fourteen hundred and 610 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: twenty nine yards and nine touchdowns. This guy just got 611 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: twenty nine million dollars a year. And Pickings right now 612 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 3: on the franchise tag is at twenty seven point two 613 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: nine million dollars. 614 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 6: They just pushed the whole thing off the tow. 615 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 4: But here it is. 616 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 5: Tell me what's the last year of his contract? Pickens 617 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 5: is guaranteed twenty seven point three million, right, all right? 618 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 5: So you're saying that's the average if he gets thirty, 619 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 5: is that as good as this guy Nick? And here's 620 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 5: the other thing to consider about Pickens, how much money 621 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 5: you think he's made in his first four years in 622 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 5: the league. Not even six month months dollars, So twenty 623 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 5: seven point three is pretty good for him. Now you 624 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 5: can say, okay, we got to factor that out. Does 625 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 5: he want to take the chance of not making that? 626 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: Let me tell you what his agent just did. 627 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 5: I know, No, he didn't pick up the phone. He 628 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 5: ain't calling right, No, not yet. But that's fine. But again, 629 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 5: this guy was a free agent Pickens ain't. Yeah, well 630 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 5: you got a choice. You can make twenty seven point 631 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 5: three or you could sit out the rest of the year. 632 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 4: So we we we We're going to just not even 633 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 4: pay attention to the What's up with your boy? Episode? Again? 634 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 4: A kicker? Ye, what happened with me? 635 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 5: He's the restricted? 636 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, what are we doing here? 637 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 5: Five point six million? I think that gives them incentive 638 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 5: to negotiate for a long term deal, right. 639 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 4: But reasonable, somebody's got to come. They put him out. 640 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 5: There right right, Well, he's still worth a second round pick. 641 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 5: I think somebody might do that. Now, how much would 642 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 5: a team give up not only salary cap money, but 643 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 5: a second round draft for a kicker? 644 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 4: Right? He's not just a kicker. I know he is 645 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 4: not just a kicker. 646 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 6: I want to know specifically, what that number is, I mean, 647 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 6: and in the media you just can't trust it. Everyone's 648 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 6: saying ten. He asked, they said, they said, they said, 649 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 6: he said that they didn't, right, and so as somewhere 650 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 6: in between. 651 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 3: That is a nice round number. 652 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 4: But just saying that that's a nice. 653 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 5: Round This has to be important. If I'm a kicker, 654 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 5: what's my signing bonus and what's my guarantee? The signing 655 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 5: bonus has got to be at least worth the first 656 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 5: round tender, which is at eight million. Now, if I 657 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 5: get eight million guaranteed as a kicker, because as we've 658 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 5: seen with kickers, they can go right down the two 659 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 5: in one year change, right. Mike Vanderjack by the way, 660 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 5: now I don't think that's him. I think you can 661 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 5: trust this guy. But to me, it's how much am 662 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 5: I getting guaranteed as a kicker? 663 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 4: You know what, Mickey? 664 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 6: You You know when I bought a car, man, I 665 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 6: took my car in and the guy I was doing 666 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 6: a trade in and I thought my car was pretty nice. 667 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 4: To that guy walked up on my car and devalued 668 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 4: the hell out of my Carval just kicked. 669 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 7: You know what happens, He's they go down as they 670 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 7: can go down pretty fast. Look at that last year, 671 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 7: that contract. He ain't gonna get that. Did you see him? 672 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 7: In December? 673 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 5: Here's how right. I traded in the first car I 674 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 5: ever had, right, and somebody stole the battery out of it. 675 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 5: I had to buy a fifty dollars battery for my car. 676 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 5: When I went to trade it in. They were going 677 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 5: to give me fifty dollars man, and I said, no, 678 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 5: I'm keeping it. I'm not giving it to you for 679 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 5: fifty dollars. 680 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: On the kickers, yes, okay, the highest paid kicker six 681 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 3: point what six point four million dollars per year, Harrison Bucker? 682 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 5: How much guaranteed? 683 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: It's fully guaranteed for fifteen million of the It was 684 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: a four year, twenty five point six million dollar deal 685 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 3: which goes through twenty twenty eight. Okay, So it just 686 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 3: signed last year, four years twenty five point six that's 687 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 3: six point four million a year, and total guarantees is 688 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 3: seventeen point seventy five million fully guaranteed fifteen million. 689 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 4: Okay. 690 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 3: So that's the highest priced kicker right now. So that's 691 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 3: the base. Okay, that's the bottom on. 692 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 5: The fifteen fifteen guaranteed over four years, So not even 693 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 5: four million a year guaranteed, right. 694 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 3: Sure, but it's but the average when we're talking about 695 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 3: the total number on the contract, yea, which is what 696 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 3: the agent is looking at, and I'm doing it from 697 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: the agent perspective, then you're looking at I mean, if 698 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: the Cowboys offer seven million, okay, that would making the 699 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 3: highest paid kicker in NFL history, Okay, which is so 700 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 3: that's four years, twenty eight million, right there. So, and 701 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 3: so your total guarantees may be up to twenty. 702 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 5: Million, twenty million over four years. 703 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 3: That's five million a year, right, So I'm that's a 704 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 3: base right there. 705 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 5: If I'm a kicker, I'm taking. 706 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 6: It, Guys, I am paying and I know everybody has 707 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 6: a salary cap, but I am. 708 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 4: Paying Brandon Aubrey. 709 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 6: I'm gonna find a way to work this out with 710 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 6: Brandon Aubrey. He solved. So we were talking about it 711 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 6: last Monday. A peace of mind. He gives you as 712 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 6: a kicker. He is a legitimate weapon for you, and 713 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 6: I understand ten million dollars that's crazy, that's insane. 714 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: But if if a team, if Aubrey comes to you, 715 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 3: I've got an offer three years, thirty million, dollars from TMX. Okay, 716 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 3: you're taking that, I mean you match you that rather 717 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 3: than the second round draft pick. 718 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 6: If he asked me for thirty million dollars in three years, 719 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 6: he's gonna be at that other team. He's going to 720 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 6: be with another team. I'm gonna take the second Okay, Yes, 721 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 6: I'm gonna do that because I understand that. Man. You're 722 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 6: you're making me do something in football that no one 723 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 6: has done yet. I don't don't want to be I'm 724 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 6: gonna pay. I'm gonna make you the highest paid kicker 725 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 6: in the NFL, but I don't want to do it. 726 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 4: But at the. 727 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 6: Tune of ten million dollars a year. 728 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 3: Okay, no, no, oh, I thought you were saying. 729 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 4: We could work out, we could work, we could work 730 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 4: it out. All I'm saying is whatever we got to do, 731 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 4: let's work it out. We can work. 732 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't know if Marvin Gay, but I was 733 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 6: saying it's somewhere in there. But I'm not. But I'm 734 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 6: not letting go of Brandon Aubury. It's just but if 735 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 6: another team steps in and pays him thirty then Bill, 736 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 6: they forced my. 737 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 4: It's the same. 738 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 6: It's the same like the Max Crosby deal, you force 739 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 6: my hand. I can't give you two number ones for that. 740 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 4: And everyone knows the cowboys are so desperate and that's 741 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 4: what they're doing. Well, they're really dangling these carrots out 742 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 4: there in front of us, and. 743 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 5: I don't know what they would give him in guarantees. 744 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 5: But again, he has to consider where he's going to 745 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 5: kick unless he's got some really good guarantees. Right, what 746 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 5: if he's got to New England, wants Cleveland, You want 747 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 5: to go kick there? 748 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 4: Ten million dollars a year, I go kick it? So period? 749 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 5: Right, what if you fail and they say, you know what, 750 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 5: we just spent way too much money on this. So 751 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 5: the guarantee is what's important. 752 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 4: You can't always look at and that's your thing. Yeah, 753 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 4: what if I fail you that's just really not how 754 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 4: you look at it. That's sports. What if he fails, 755 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 4: that's that's not We want optimism here. That's what this 756 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 4: is all about. You know, he's a he's a proven commodity, 757 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 4: that's what that's what you're looking at. My thing is 758 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 4: wherever he goes, he's going to be a better kicker 759 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 4: than they had previously. Yes, that's so you know wherever 760 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 4: he kicks, you know, but if he's kicking out doors, 761 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 4: he's going to be the best damn outdoor kicker that 762 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 4: you've seen in the league next year. So that says something, 763 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 4: because you know, you have to measure it based on 764 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 4: where he is. If he goes to another team and 765 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 4: they he has to play outside, he's still going to 766 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 4: be worth his money. He He's still gonna be worth 767 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 4: his money because whoever came before him or will come 768 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 4: after him, will not be as accurate as he is 769 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 4: under whatever conditions he's kicking in. That's how much confidence 770 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 4: I have in it now. Having said that, I still 771 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 4: don't want to pay all that damn money for a kicker. 772 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 4: I really. If you're talking like, man, we got work 773 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 4: this out, we got well, well, I'll I'll do something 774 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 4: on the table for you and you gotta work this out. 775 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 5: You know he wants to stay here, yes. 776 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 4: But we can't always bank on that. 777 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 5: And here's my history on that. Chris Boniol he became 778 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,959 Speaker 5: an unrestricted free agent and he wanted to stay here, 779 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 5: and he was going to pass up the offer that 780 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 5: Philadelphia gave him because they and they were going to 781 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 5: give him signing bonus money, which back thirty years ago, 782 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 5: Kickers didn't get the signing bonus right, and Steve Hoffman 783 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 5: told them, you need to take that deal. You need 784 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 5: to go they're giving you signing bonus. He went, I 785 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 5: don't think he lasted two years kicking in Philadelphia because 786 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 5: he wasn't the same kicker and he ended up being 787 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 5: a free agent. 788 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 4: Well, as you tell that story, Chris boneyoll, I know. 789 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 5: But he was. He was successful, yes, right, but to 790 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 5: the point they were going to give him signing bone. 791 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 5: I know it's the I'm not comparing the but I'm 792 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 5: comparing the situation. Go to Philadelphia and kick nine times outdoors? 793 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 6: That would break my heart. Don't say that. 794 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 4: Don't say that. 795 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 6: That back to. 796 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 5: He's gonna kick, He's gonna kick for bad example. 797 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 6: Hey Bill, could someone tell me about the deal that 798 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 6: Terren Steele just just is did they re sign him 799 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 6: restructure of what was the money in his doing? 800 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,439 Speaker 3: I'm glad I brought that up because as Mickey's talking 801 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 3: about this whole situation, I applaud Terrence Steele for taking 802 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 3: control of his situation. 803 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 5: He had no more guaranteed money over the last two 804 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 5: years of his deal. They lowered the amount but gave 805 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 5: him twenty two million up front, so he's guaranaranteed twenty 806 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 5: two Many had no guarantee, had no more guarantees going 807 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 5: into this year, so as base salary goes down and 808 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 5: they spread out the twenty two that they gave him 809 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 5: or didn't restructure, but they guaranteed him. I'm trying to 810 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 5: remember who else did that with the Cowboys where he 811 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 5: was out of guarantee money, they lowered the total, but 812 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 5: they guaranteed them. Oh, they did it with DeMarcus Lawrence 813 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 5: on his last deal. They lowered the total. He had 814 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 5: no more guarantees left, but they guaranteed them two of 815 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 5: the last three years or something like that. So to me, 816 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 5: the guarantee money is the most important thing. 817 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 3: And just like with Brandon Aubrey being a Plano guy, 818 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: Terrence Steele is a Texas guy. Grew up in San Antonio, 819 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 3: he went to Texas Tech. He's comfortable here, he's got 820 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 3: a spot. He's right tack, you know. And even though 821 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 3: on his if you look at his contract, it says 822 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 3: three years forty eight million dollars left on it. But 823 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 3: if there's no guarantees on that, but three years thirty 824 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 3: three million with twenty two guaranteed. Now he s gets 825 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 3: to stay in Texas and be your right tack. 826 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 5: And it created the Cowboys thirteen million in cap space. 827 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. Nice. 828 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 6: And these are the same kind of deals that you 829 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 6: need to make with Kenny Clark as well. 830 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 4: Players. 831 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 5: Yes, okaytend him. Yeah he's going to get that eleven million, 832 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 5: but not all count this year. You need to spread 833 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 5: it out. And that's what happens when when Jerry talks 834 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 5: about Bowering from the future, it's not necessarily draft choices, 835 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 5: it's caps space because you're putting voided years at the 836 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 5: end that at some point you got to you know, 837 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 5: like I mentioned Dak, you're going to have to account 838 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 5: for him at some point. 839 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 3: So, you know, and people are different. Some people they 840 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 3: don't mind. I just want to test the market. I 841 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 3: want to go to new I'll go wherever. But there 842 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 3: are others that you're in a comfort zone here. You 843 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 3: know you've yet you don't want to disrupt your life. 844 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 3: And I'm like that in my career. I never even 845 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 3: thought about seeking employment anywhere else but here because I 846 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 3: knew this is where I am best equipped to have 847 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 3: my career. 848 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 4: I would love to have someone track those kind of 849 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 4: situations and see how they turned out. Like a guy's 850 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 4: been here for quite some time, I don't know whether 851 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 4: that might be go somewhere right, projected, big money, whatever, 852 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 4: and see how many times that worked out. 853 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 5: I'll give you another example. Alvin Harper. You know, he 854 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 5: was very good here as a second receiver, very comfortable. 855 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 5: He took the signing bonus he had to, right because 856 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 5: he was always going to be number two. And he 857 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 5: went to Tampa Bay and they gave him basically first 858 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 5: receiver money and he never produced first receiver? 859 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 6: Who was the running back in Tampa at that time? 860 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 4: Do you remember? 861 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 6: I don't remember. I mean, okay, so I'm sorry, I'm 862 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 6: reaching for straw. 863 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 5: Oh, I know what you're saying, because he had Troy 864 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,959 Speaker 5: Aikman and Emmett Smith. 865 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 6: Not to mention my you know, not to mention j novilecheck. 866 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 6: I mean, so sometimes, yeah, you can bite off of 867 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 6: more than you could chew. And with terror, everybody doesn't 868 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 6: actual yes, and that's what you were talking about. 869 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 4: Man. Everybody didn't say, Okay, I'm a Texas kid from here. Man, Hey, 870 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 4: my time, can't go somewhere and play another. 871 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,479 Speaker 6: When my time come, because my production has been there, 872 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go test the market and see what right 873 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 6: tackles in this league are getting. Now, if you're Terry 874 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 6: Steel and your struggles are documented and a team is 875 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 6: not talking about the chopping block, they're talking about actually 876 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 6: giving you money and saying that we believe in you. Man, 877 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 6: I think that makes a guy like him light a 878 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 6: fire underneath this his pants and. 879 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 4: Come on with it. 880 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 6: Come on you. 881 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 4: Somebody believes in you. That's a voter confidence. Man. Somebody 882 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 4: believes in you. 883 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,919 Speaker 5: That could take Having said that, do you think pickings 884 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 5: factors in. I've got Dak Prescott, I've got a pretty 885 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 5: darn good running game, and I got ceed Lamb on 886 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 5: the other side of me. 887 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 4: Oh, he's looking at staying, he's looking at stand Why 888 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 4: upset the apple cart? 889 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 6: Now? 890 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 4: You know, let me just go ahead and get I 891 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 4: got the one year under I can definitely I can 892 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 4: still thrive under this system. 893 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 6: It's still me, you know, fellas, It's still me. I'll 894 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 6: talk like some men that didn't have money for a 895 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 6: long time. It's still so. I'm gonna say it like this. 896 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,720 Speaker 6: These guys want that money. They want to get paid 897 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 6: that's signed. Dude, I was a Union rep. I know 898 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 6: exactly what I know exactly. No, Hey, I was, I was. 899 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 4: I've been fruscating him about Michael Parson's for six months. Now, 900 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 4: come on, get that money. He had to go get 901 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 4: his money. But you know, there are times when you 902 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 4: have to be smart as well. I know he wants 903 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 4: his money. But if I know it's gonna cause a 904 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 4: problem here overall, that's gonna be a problem for my 905 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 4: situation as well as this entire building. 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Jalen Phillips is headed to the 965 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:46,240 Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers four years, one hundred and twenty million dollars, 966 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 3: thirty million dollars a year. Philip thirty thirty million a year, 967 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 3: four years, one million. 968 00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 4: So every time something look over me, my Piggins. 969 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 3: Fallout from me. We talked about Alex I'm. 970 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 4: Over here, man. I just say it was logical. I'm 971 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 4: better good. 972 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 3: What else he talked about Alec pearceon his forty three 973 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 3: catches getting signed for twenty nine million dollars a year. Yes, 974 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,240 Speaker 3: well there's fallout from that in Indianapolis. See, Colts can't 975 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 3: afford Michael Pittman anymore. And so the Colts are sending 976 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 3: that wide receiver to Mike McCarthy and the Pittsburgh Steelers. 977 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 4: Here you go. 978 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 3: He's got one year left on his deal at twenty 979 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 3: two million dollars Michael Pittman, So I'm sure the Steelers 980 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,399 Speaker 3: are going to work out a long term contract with him. 981 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 2: Uh. 982 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 3: Quarterback news Malik Willis agrees to terms on a three year, 983 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,280 Speaker 3: sixty seven point five million dollar contract with the Miami Dolphins, 984 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 3: who released to a Tonguevelloa this morning, and Tua reportedly 985 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 3: is the Atlanta Falcons might have interest in Tua and 986 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 3: that would be on a veteran minimum because he's getting 987 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,720 Speaker 3: so much money. Oh no, go ahead, because his uh, 988 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 3: he's already making how much money from the Dolphins. 989 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 5: How much the Dolphins? 990 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 3: The Dolphins debt money money ninety nine million dollars million. 991 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, teams are getting smart. Really, teams are getting smart. 992 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 6: They're paying you to leave. Bye wow, what a cat. 993 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 994 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 3: The Dolphins still had enough salary cap space, and they 995 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 3: also traded Meka Fitzpatrick, which cleared up some money. They 996 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 3: traded him to the Jets today to sign Malik Willis 997 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 3: to this deal, which is forty five million guaranteed. 998 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,919 Speaker 5: But they traded him because they couldn't afford him anymore, right, 999 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 5: Fitzpatrick try because they only got a seventh, right, So 1000 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 5: they were just dumping money. 1001 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 6: So can I ask you guys anything about Trey Hendrickson. 1002 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 6: Do you how do you feel about him? 1003 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 3: Thirty million dollars a year? 1004 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just how do you like him? I mean, 1005 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 6: as the day progresses, it's temperate. 1006 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 3: The difference between him and Jalen Phillips is about four years. 1007 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 3: He's about four years older. 1008 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 5: Right, and so and The difference between him and Crosby 1009 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 5: is I don't have to give up a draft choice, right, 1010 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 5: he's unrestricted. 1011 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, so. 1012 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,399 Speaker 5: Even if I if I got to pay money and 1013 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 5: a draft choice gives me pause. But if I can 1014 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 5: get them for a reasonable amount and not have to 1015 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 5: give up a first round pick, then I'll look at it. 1016 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 5: I'll see. But does he fit into what they want 1017 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 5: to do on defense here, because at least Parker's had 1018 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 5: two years of history with with Rashan Gary. He was 1019 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 5: in Green Bay, did it and these last two years, 1020 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 5: the guy that hired as their PAS game corodner, Derek Ansley, 1021 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 5: was with Green Bank, So there's some familiarity with the guy, 1022 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 5: which is important, right, you gotta trust him. 1023 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 3: News around the National Football Conference Eastern Division, the Giants 1024 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 3: are signing tidy end Isaiah like like three years, forty 1025 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 3: million dollars in Baltimore. 1026 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 6: I never thought he was going to get out of Baltimore. 1027 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 6: And that is that's bad news. 1028 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 4: Man. Isaiah like wasting his time? Yeah, he waste his time. 1029 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 4: I mean, this guy was balling and then all of 1030 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 4: a sudden they just want to put him back on. 1031 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,439 Speaker 4: I don't know. Behind Andrews when I thought they could 1032 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 4: have really worked well together. If you're going to have 1033 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 4: two talented guys like that. 1034 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,799 Speaker 3: Was, how many Kansas City Chiefs cornerbacks can the Los 1035 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 3: Angeles Rams employ another? 1036 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 5: On? 1037 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 3: The Rams are signing Jalen Watson to a three year, 1038 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 3: fifty one million dollar deal, So now they have McDuffie. 1039 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 4: And how bad were their corner chiefs? How bad were 1040 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 4: the colling the backs to where you go pick up 1041 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 4: two guys from the same team. 1042 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 6: Well, clearly they thought that their playoff game was lost by. 1043 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 4: Connection between KSE and and uh the Rams. There's got 1044 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 4: to be some type of connection there, like with coaching. 1045 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 6: Well that you hadn't had any Devin Lloyd knew, so 1046 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 6: I'm good there, So you hadn't said anything about him. 1047 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 3: So the linebackers, yes, okay, So the linebackers that you 1048 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 3: want you okay, you said your Kwon Brisker, the safety, Yes, 1049 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 3: linebacker you'd like Devin Lloyd? Yeah? 1050 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 5: Is that Jacksonville? 1051 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 4: Yep? 1052 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,879 Speaker 3: And he's the top of the market as far as 1053 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 3: inside linebackers. 1054 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 6: And now that's about. That's that fantasy football stuff again. 1055 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 6: That's going back to trying to get the best at 1056 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 6: every position. I know, Well, it. 1057 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 5: Just depends what the market value is and how much 1058 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 5: does the guarantee, you know, if you're going to take 1059 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,800 Speaker 5: a chance. Now, he's like four years in four or 1060 00:55:53,840 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 5: five yep, so he's young, he's productive. Now, how much 1061 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 5: can I afford? Is he going to cost me signing 1062 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 5: another guy too? Because I still need a cornerback by the. 1063 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 3: Way, into safety and a safety keep going yeah fast. 1064 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 6: So but so far, guys, I mean as far as 1065 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,439 Speaker 6: the news that you want to hear throughout the rest 1066 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 6: of the day, obviously linebacker signing and possibly a safety signing. 1067 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 5: With whether it's today or tomorrow or the next whatever. 1068 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 3: We're here, I'm just saying yeah, because today it's top dollar, 1069 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 3: it goes the money starts going down presumably as you 1070 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 3: go along. 1071 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 4: Here, the urgency is not there. 1072 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 3: The other thing about the linebackers I went through. I've 1073 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 3: got a whole list of linebackers, uh, starting linebackers in 1074 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 3: the league. There's about twenty of them who are inside 1075 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 3: linebackers who are candidates. 1076 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,839 Speaker 4: To play three three, play that three four Yeah. 1077 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 3: As inside backer. Well, guy I like is Bobby Okaake, 1078 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 3: and I like him from the makeup standpoint. He's a 1079 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 3: this team. We saw it throughout the year. This team 1080 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:12,479 Speaker 3: needs smart, Everson Wallas type defensive player, right, you know. 1081 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Bobby played for who. 1082 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 3: Is with the Giant Science, but with the Colts prior 1083 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 3: to that Stanford guy. I mean, just read up on 1084 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 3: him and just take a look. I mean that guy 1085 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 3: he is, he would be. He's a Schottenheimer guy as 1086 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 3: far as his makeup goes, as far as a communicator. 1087 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,919 Speaker 3: What Kenneth Murray wasn't you know, as far as well. 1088 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 5: And they missed on on Jack Samber. They brought him in. 1089 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 5: They thought he was going to be their starting middle linebacker. 1090 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 5: He was a rotation player with the Bears. Now you're 1091 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 5: going to make him the everyday guy. And he wasn't. 1092 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 5: And then he got hurt and then he never got off. 1093 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 4: We've done that, We've done that a few times a round. 1094 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 5: And Murray got put in a position he shouldn't have 1095 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 5: been in. He should have been announced linebacker, not the 1096 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,919 Speaker 5: middle linebacker. And they just kind of their projections there 1097 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 5: were wrong. They tried, but they were wrong. And and 1098 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 5: so now you're sitting here, well, we need a middle linebacker. 1099 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 4: You're gonna I'd rather you get if you had to choose, 1100 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 4: how you weighed out this guy's talent. I want more 1101 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 4: intellect than I want that's I agree. 1102 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 5: I want lee out. 1103 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 4: I want those guys. I want those guys. I want 1104 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 4: those guys so and they. 1105 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 3: May also they helped players around them because they get 1106 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 3: everybody lined up, especially at the middle linebacker, the safety position. 1107 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 5: I want one with good eyes that they ceased. Eyes 1108 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 5: on that defense were terrible. You know, whatever the talent was, 1109 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 5: you got to have eyes to play those positions. 1110 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 4: And they had eyes, they just had them focus in 1111 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 4: the wrong places. I'm looking over here. Everything's over here. 1112 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 4: That was a smart guy. Smart guys with eyes. I'm 1113 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 4: over here. I want to destroy you. I want to 1114 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 4: battering right know where to go? 1115 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, That's what I got, Chris. Look, Chris, my 1116 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 6: defensive coordinator is smart enough. He got enough brains for everybody. 1117 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 6: All right, go where he tells you to go. 1118 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 3: That would work signing you up today more than any other, 1119 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 3: is what man. 1120 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 6: I've already Devin Lloyd, Devin Looyd, that would be that 1121 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 6: would be the pick that I would go, Yes, sir, 1122 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 6: that would open up the draft. Man, that's uh, that 1123 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 6: would be a pick for you. Playmaker and a smart guy. 1124 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 5: So he was still he just finished his first first contract, 1125 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 5: so he hadn't made much money. 1126 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 4: Right, See the kick that tires there? 1127 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 6: It is I want the white rhino. Who's the white rhino? 1128 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 4: Why? Dude, what are you talking about? 1129 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 10: Man? 1130 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 6: There we go, Hey, plan another story, planning another story 1131 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 6: right right at twenty? 1132 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, if he's there, how about twelve? 1133 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:18,919 Speaker 4: I take him at twelve? 1134 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 5: Right, passing over? 1135 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 4: Who are you passing over? 1136 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 5: In a linebacker? 1137 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 4: If if there's no middle linebackers there. 1138 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 3: No, I said, If Sonny Styles is there, you're taking 1139 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 3: Sonny Style. 1140 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he ain't gonna be there, not gonna be there. 1141 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 5: Well, you never know. 1142 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 7: Okay, so then you're waiting and now all of a sudden, 1143 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 7: if it don't work out. 1144 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 5: Lamb one. 1145 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 3: They're waying like Dylan Thenaman versus C. J. Allen the 1146 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 3: Georgia linebacker. 1147 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,439 Speaker 4: Okay, if you have the linebacker you want, Fans's gonna 1148 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 4: make it bigger. 1149 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 3: Whatever happened to not drafting a middle linebacker in the 1150 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 3: first round, remember said, Remember the Lions got criticized for 1151 01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 3: taking Jack Campbell in the first round and Jamiir Gibbs 1152 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 3: in the first round in the same draft. 1153 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 5: No, no, that that of my mouth. 1154 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 6: Wow, all right, I could take the white Rhino, the 1155 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 6: white Rhino. Are you gonna nickname this guy the white right? 1156 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 4: He's worth it? 1157 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 6: Bros Well, I had no idea who you were talking about. 1158 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 4: You ran that four to three five. The commentary was like, whoa, 1159 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 4: what just happened here? That was impressive. We have to 1160 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 4: get we got. It's a few hands I saw, and 1161 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 4: I saw him play. Chris put some plays up there. 1162 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,959 Speaker 4: He knows how to come up and make a play. 1163 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 4: He knows how. 1164 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 3: What really sold you on him when I said he 1165 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 3: was the first guy in the big green notebooks, Yeah, 1166 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 3: that's right. 1167 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 4: Yeah at number twenty, at number twelve or twenty, if 1168 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 4: if your guys are gone, especially if you guys are gone. 1169 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, if they're gone. But what if they're there? 1170 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,919 Speaker 4: Am I sacrifice an optimism versus paid? That's when you. 1171 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 3: Wait on him at twenty. You gotta if your guys 1172 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 3: there at twelve, if you you would. 1173 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 4: Talk me out of everything, Man. 1174 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 3: I'm coach Barcels. If DeMarcus Ware is there at twelve, 1175 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 3: we're taking the market. Or at eleven, right, which is 1176 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 3: where he went at eleven. But if de Marcus Ware 1177 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 3: is there, then you will take your guy Marcus Spears 1178 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 3: at twenty. Yes, okay, Sony is there, then we're going 1179 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 3: to take him at twelve, and then we'll take Wilves. 1180 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if that kid too. I don't know 1181 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 4: if he's gonna be there at twenty, but. 1182 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 3: If he is, and I saw, that's what Parcels said 1183 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 3: about Spears. 1184 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 5: Okay, I saw a mock draft. Whatever, mock drafts are worse. 1185 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 5: Right after twenty, the next ten players in that mock draft, 1186 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 5: the Cowboys would have no interest in whatsoever. They were 1187 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 5: tight ends, offensive lineman, defensive tackles. And it's like, okay, 1188 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 5: go ahead, now it's not going to turn out that right, 1189 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 5: But what if it did, then I dropped to twenty 1190 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 5: four and I get a third round pick. 1191 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 6: Keep planting those stories ever since. We got some safeties 1192 01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 6: we need to get. 1193 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 4: I don't we need them? Man? I know this kid, Hey, 1194 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 4: he's ready, all right, No, he's ready, he's the pert Gene, right, 1195 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 4: another coop of Deine. What's the other guy? 1196 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,479 Speaker 3: When Mitchell you're talking about the Eagle? 1197 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1198 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like him too. 1199 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 3: You can take both of them. His theenem in is 1200 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 3: versatile enough, especially where you can play him and. 1201 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 4: I like both of them. Shoot, I'm telling you I 1202 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 4: don't care. 1203 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I could do this all day. 1204 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 4: He can't. 1205 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 3: We ran out of time, so I guess we'll have 1206 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 3: to do it. We'll wrap up the whole week next 1207 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 3: next Monday, Evenday. 1208 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, we tampered all day to day. Guys, I like 1209 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 4: you tampered. 1210 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 3: More minutes, so we'll shut at you again next Monday 1211 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 3: at eleven am here on mix Shots, Oh Cowboys. 1212 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1213 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club