WEBVTT - Tim Heidecker Disobeys Bridger

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<v Speaker 1>And I invited you here. I thought I made myself

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests,

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<v Speaker 1>your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you dare to surbey me?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Pritchard Wineger. We're

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<v Speaker 2>here in the studio an Aalise, our producer is not here.

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<v Speaker 2>They've cooked up some sort of some excuse I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I hung up with the phone before they could lie

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<v Speaker 2>to me. I can't deal with it. But they're not here,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, hopefully they can figure it out. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just flying free and loose here. What's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of my life now is just watching Little House

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<v Speaker 2>on the Prairie. That's most of my days and nights.

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<v Speaker 2>The Ingles family has kind of settled into their life.

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<v Speaker 2>I've read some behind the scenes. You know, it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem like it was that pleasant of a place to work, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>so it adds another dimension to watching the show. It

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<v Speaker 2>occurred to me last night that I've been shopping for

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<v Speaker 2>a lamp for five years and still have not bought one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the one piece of furniture I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>really not capable of buying. So if you have any

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<v Speaker 2>tips or tricks, keep them to yourself. So anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>I've experienced a little bit of parking rage this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>blinding rage. Apparently there's something about someone in a Volvo

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<v Speaker 2>Crossover that just really taking their time sets me off,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't act on it. I'm coming down from that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not had my baby belt cheese, which is

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<v Speaker 2>usually pretty grounding for me. So, oh, business, We're coming

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<v Speaker 2>to exist Patreon dot com. Slash I said, no gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>What a lovely way to support the podcast. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a business ultimately, and we're business partners, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I need you to keep up your end at

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<v Speaker 2>the bargain ultimately. So go over there. We have the

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<v Speaker 2>bonus episode. It's all kinds of things. It's wonderful time. Okay, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into the podcast. I adore today's guest. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>loves today's guest. It's Tim highdeck Er. Tim welcome, Dyson.

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<v Speaker 3>I have so many enemies. Could you're starting off in

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<v Speaker 3>such a disingenuous place. It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, give me a break, But give me a break.

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<v Speaker 3>I am. It's so excited you brought up a little

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<v Speaker 3>house in the prairie. I don't know if you did

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<v Speaker 3>research on me. No, No, do you watch it? I used,

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<v Speaker 3>I used to when I was a kid, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like even into I mean, I knew it from

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<v Speaker 3>it when I was a kid. But in high school,

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<v Speaker 3>my sister and I religiously watched it. Oh you're kidding

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<v Speaker 3>after school the reruns right right. I loved it and

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<v Speaker 3>I might go back and do a rewatch.

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<v Speaker 2>When was the last time you saw it?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? Many years ago? But I could. I could picture

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<v Speaker 3>every frame. I know all the characters. I love that show.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know the story about the ending of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I want to ask, because.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't because my boyfriend keeps hinting at you won't

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<v Speaker 2>believe what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you not want me to tell you?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what do you think? I mean? This is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing about the show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very funds It's a very fund Hollywood story.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, then I guess I should know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you should know. I'm sorry your boyfriend for ruining it.

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<v Speaker 3>You will eventually know this. I think it's true. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's true the very end of this. The show

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<v Speaker 3>has been on for it's like seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that it over two hundred episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>But it feels much longer because you see like half

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<v Speaker 3>Pint and all the family grow from a nine year

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<v Speaker 3>old to like adults. So it's gone. It's on for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time, and the show comes to an end.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the last episode of the show is

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<v Speaker 3>some railroad company or some outside forest buys little Walnut Walnut.

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<v Speaker 2>Growth, I believe creek, and I think it is a

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<v Speaker 2>real place.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Walnut Grove, and the town doesn't like it. It

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<v Speaker 3>means they're gonna have to change. Something's gonna happen. They

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<v Speaker 3>decide that they are going to dynamite the entire town.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna, yeah, they're gonna out of spite, they are

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<v Speaker 3>going to blow up the town.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the the citizens, the citizens, Oh, good for them,

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<v Speaker 2>and and like, but I guess, but it also feels

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like the opposite of the ethos of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean, just something happening. It's the opposite

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<v Speaker 2>of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well if you if we can't have this, no

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<v Speaker 3>one can. And what I learned is that it was

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<v Speaker 3>actually the production that said, we have to tear all

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<v Speaker 3>these sets down anyway, let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just do it on camera. Yeah, that's so wild, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is such a bummer of a way to end that,

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<v Speaker 3>because that shows so wholesome about sweet It's about learning

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<v Speaker 3>lessons about how to behave and do right by people

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And so do you see the town get blown up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the very last episode. I'm this is a memory.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be. I hope it's mean. I'm sure your

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<v Speaker 3>audience will correct me or you if it's incorrect, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's how it went down.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, wow, I can't wait to get to that

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<v Speaker 2>in ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, two hundred episodes of like they're like over an

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<v Speaker 2>hour each of them. Yeah, and it feels over an

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<v Speaker 2>hour sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I remember them getting trapped in a mine. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember the classic Albert. Albert was like the adopted son.

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<v Speaker 3>Later he gets addicted to opium. So there's like a

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<v Speaker 3>drug episode. You know. The network was like, we need

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<v Speaker 3>a drug.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we fit this into pioneer time, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And Pauw had to like like he cold turkeyed with him,

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<v Speaker 3>so he like got him and it was like I just

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<v Speaker 3>remember sweat, I remember vomit. It just like it was

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<v Speaker 3>like early memories of the world are through the lens

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<v Speaker 3>of little House in the.

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<v Speaker 2>First Wow, I didn't realize it got so tough on it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard out there in the prairie.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're only nine episodes in.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Yeah, you have such a journey ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was it was shocking to me. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I purposefully avoided it as a kid because growing

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<v Speaker 2>up in Utah you were just like kind of there

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<v Speaker 2>was an overflow of like pioneer stories and I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like watching that would be like going to church essentially.

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<v Speaker 3>And are they they remaking it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I was just talking to my sister

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<v Speaker 2>from the phone and she said, oh, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're remaking that.

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<v Speaker 3>So who knows, And your sister is the executive of

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<v Speaker 3>Netflix or.

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<v Speaker 2>She's kind of taken the reins h No, but I

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<v Speaker 2>watched We watched the pilot and it's like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's like two hours or something. It's like a movie

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<v Speaker 2>and the things the family goes through.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like, I'm going to go, where is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Where can you watch?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's on Amazon? Okay, And so far we

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<v Speaker 2>haven't encountered a commercial, which has been nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that The Blindside is at some point. But

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<v Speaker 2>what a show? And who who would have thought the

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<v Speaker 2>ingles were going to have be such a pleasant time

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<v Speaker 2>to watch? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Michael Landon's always he's always crying.

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<v Speaker 2>Crying or looking for an opportunity not to wear his shirt. Yes, shirt,

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<v Speaker 2>I realized, so.

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<v Speaker 3>No shirt, no shirt, but suspenders. It's amazing. I came

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<v Speaker 3>out a straight man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's amazing. I came out gay not having seen

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<v Speaker 2>the show. Maybe I'm going to double down now, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm through that.

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<v Speaker 3>You watch the show, yeah, and then I then you

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<v Speaker 3>have to after that, you have to watch Highway to Heaven?

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<v Speaker 3>What is that Highway to Heaven? So it's Michael Landon's

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<v Speaker 3>second show, second big show that he did with the

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<v Speaker 3>guy from the the his friend on Little House in

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<v Speaker 3>the Prayer, the goy, the Beard.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the guy. His name's Victor French.

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<v Speaker 3>Victor French, Yes, remember Victor French teams up with Michael

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<v Speaker 3>Landon for Highway to Heaven, which I believe is I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't see much. I didn't watch a lot of Highway

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<v Speaker 3>to Heaven, but it was I think Michael Landon is

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<v Speaker 3>an angel who's like back, has stuck back on Earth,

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<v Speaker 3>has to do good deeds to get back to Heaven

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<v Speaker 3>into Heaven, I think, And Victor French is like a

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<v Speaker 3>truck driver that he keeps running into It's you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>watch it if you're if you watch Little House, you gotta.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep keep you think that did that show go very

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<v Speaker 2>long that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Probably long enough. It was. It got indosyndication,

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<v Speaker 3>probably Okay, Yeah, it wasn't like a one and done

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<v Speaker 3>kind of deal.

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<v Speaker 2>And like communication with God throughout or is it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stranded on Earth exit?

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't tell you. We'd have to we'd have to

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<v Speaker 3>pull up an episode, which I'm happy to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Just watch a whole episode of Have It right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like Victor French's role in all of these

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<v Speaker 2>Landon programs is to kind of just randomly show up.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the episode we're watching right now of Little House,

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<v Speaker 2>they needed a babysitter because the Ingle parent Ingle's parents

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<v Speaker 2>are going on holiday and they need.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are they going. They're going, They're going to Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to d No, they're going to some other town.

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<v Speaker 2>He has to drop something off, but he's treating as

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<v Speaker 2>they keep saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Holiday to St. Louis or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. But the first night of their holiday is

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<v Speaker 2>them sleeping on the ground in front of a fire,

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess like that's kind of the getting away

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<v Speaker 2>for them. But the the babysitter gets a sore throat

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<v Speaker 2>and can't babysit.

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<v Speaker 3>Which in those days means you eventually die.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll probably be by the end of And then here

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<v Speaker 2>comes Victor French, just kind of stumbling into town. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>you need a babysitter? Right here, I am. The kids

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<v Speaker 2>love me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cute.

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<v Speaker 2>But what a show. I can't recommend it enough and

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing else for me to watch on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>Right Yeah, I might be with you, joining you.

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<v Speaker 2>A tough time. What have you been up to? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I have two kids, sure, I tend to spend a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of time with them, go to their baseball games.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a big baseball fan, so I watched a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of Are you watching the Dodgers or watching any baseball team,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're really into it ends up taking up a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of your time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a kind of a job.

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<v Speaker 3>It's on almost every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they play every day?

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<v Speaker 3>Play like four days a week or five days a week?

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<v Speaker 2>That does feel wild?

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<v Speaker 3>And the games are like three or four hours long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's almost a career.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my part time job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet, how are they doing.

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<v Speaker 3>They're doing okay, but they're not doing as good as

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<v Speaker 3>they should be doing if you're looking at the stats

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<v Speaker 3>and the numbers and stuff. And this the NL West,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the division they're in, is very competitive at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment. Padres and the Giants are doing very well

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<v Speaker 3>as well. So it's it's it's exciting. I guess what

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<v Speaker 3>else free time? I don't know. I run and jaw

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, that's what I do in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a Have you been a runner jogger your

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<v Speaker 2>whole life? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Fits and starts. But I've kind of in the past

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<v Speaker 3>few years gotten into like pretty much every day. It

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<v Speaker 3>took a way to start the day.

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<v Speaker 2>How far are you jogging? Running? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Three miles? That's pretty good, pretty good, And it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's a I lived live on a hill so I

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<v Speaker 3>run halfway down and then halfway up. I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>run all the way down and then half.

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<v Speaker 2>The way back up, okay, and then walk.

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<v Speaker 3>Then do a walk the rest of the nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, So it's just like you have to build

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<v Speaker 2>up to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to actually push it to the next level

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<v Speaker 3>because I've been stationary. I've been at that level for

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years. Right, I get muscles. Yeh, see,

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<v Speaker 3>you got muscles. How do I get muscles? Because I

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<v Speaker 3>go to the gym sometimes I lift weights, but they

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<v Speaker 3>never turn into muscles.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a I kind of do an extreme thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Extreme things.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the thing I do is I go to

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<v Speaker 2>this small gym and silver leg that's run by a

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<v Speaker 2>husband and wife team. They're lovely, and you go for

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<v Speaker 2>a half hour and they put you through. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of up to you. They give you like

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<v Speaker 2>a thing, a list of exercises to do, and like

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to do five sets of each of them

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and you just do as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I walk away probably every other time, dry heaving.

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<v Speaker 2>Really it's very dear, not pleasant, but it's the only

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<v Speaker 2>I had never worked out before, right, And so This

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<v Speaker 2>is just how I've learned to exercise right. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>the nice thing is it's a half hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like it's your in and out right.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if I go to a gym just by myself,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of I know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I do. I go to this gym I

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<v Speaker 3>go to and I just rent pick up things and

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<v Speaker 3>do the same thing. And I don't push it. Really

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I mean, I don't know. I'm always you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it'd be interesting to get to have a bunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Of muscles go way too far with Now, when I

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<v Speaker 2>go to a regular gym, I'm so insecure because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to work out without someone kind of

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<v Speaker 2>at least keeping an eye on me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so these people are doing that sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of there. I think at Max there are

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<v Speaker 2>probably seven people in the gym at once, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the people wander around and if you're doing something wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll tell you and you can ask them questions.

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<v Speaker 3>And but it's not a set time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you have to make an appointment. Oh you do,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have to make an appointment? But they're great,

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<v Speaker 2>they're wonderful. I think I'm suspicious. Miranda July has this

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<v Speaker 2>new novel out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my wife read it. Everybody, everybody, all the women

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<v Speaker 3>in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, every woman I've ever met just read this book. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>of course the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's over there reading your lady books.

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<v Speaker 2>But in this book, it's said in east eastern Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>The protagonist lives, probably in Silver Lake. She ends up

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<v Speaker 2>going to this gym in a basement, in a basement

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<v Speaker 2>run by a husband and wife team. And I have

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<v Speaker 2>to imagine, right, this is the gym.

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<v Speaker 3>There's I used to I used to live in Silver Lake,

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<v Speaker 3>and I went to that very gay gym, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the very.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it Pharaohs. It's like, that's the gayest gym I

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<v Speaker 2>can think of.

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<v Speaker 3>It's right on that main drag because that is like

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<v Speaker 3>a traditionally gay area of Los Angeles, right like back

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<v Speaker 3>in the day when it was like there were actual

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I means of communities.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, right now it feels like it doesn't matter. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter. But this felt like real, like muscle

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<v Speaker 3>muscle men, you know, village people's style, you know, guys

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<v Speaker 3>working out in leather kind of. I went to that

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<v Speaker 3>gym for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was like a traditional gym. There wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only husbands, your husband material. But I had a

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<v Speaker 3>trainer and I didn't like that experience. You don't like

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<v Speaker 3>being told what to do well, I didn't like the

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<v Speaker 3>chit chat. I don't like this a small talk as

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<v Speaker 3>we're working out. So what'd you get up to this weekend?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, man, I don't really want to check it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>The chit chat at my gym is limited to almost

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<v Speaker 2>exclusively what we're watching on TV, and they have good

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<v Speaker 2>tastes in TV, so there's just a lot of me

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<v Speaker 2>complaining to them and them complaining back, and it feels good. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>The place I don't like to chit chat is my

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<v Speaker 2>haircut and my This has been a weird thing actually,

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<v Speaker 2>where my barber doesn't talk to me at all, and

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<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend has started going to the same person and

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<v Speaker 2>apparently has these long conversations. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>just I'm so off putting as a person that he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to talk to me, or if he's just catching.

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<v Speaker 3>He's resting and yeah, yeah, interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>But he comes back and my boyfriend and talking about

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<v Speaker 2>everything with this person. I mean, I have no complaints,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk right, but I'm feeling left out.

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<v Speaker 3>I could feel that. I imagine you would. Now this

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<v Speaker 3>sounds hacky. I always worried about this sounding hacky, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's true. It's very true.

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<v Speaker 2>I think true things are sometimes hacky.

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<v Speaker 3>But I get it at that. I get the small

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<v Speaker 3>talk at the dentist. Oh, sure of course, and I

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<v Speaker 3>got literally got so how are the kids doing? Like

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe it's happening when it's happening, Like you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fine, right, you guys. You guys have plans over

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<v Speaker 3>the summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well do to me if I'm the hygienas or the dentist.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never getting clear answers from the patient like I

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<v Speaker 2>would eventually be like, I'm just not gonna ask them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not having a healthy conversation with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and maybe do it before you get the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>in the mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Just ketch up, real ketchup, real.

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<v Speaker 3>Quick, as a as an icebreaker or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wonder if it's just because it's such an

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<v Speaker 2>intimate thing they feel like it's.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole thing is awkward. Can you imagine you end

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<v Speaker 3>up becoming you end up you're a dentist and you're

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<v Speaker 3>like or a dental hygienist. You Thank god they're people

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<v Speaker 3>that are willing to do it, but just in people's

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<v Speaker 3>mouths and scraping away.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh awful. My problem with my dentist is they've installed

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<v Speaker 2>some of those overhead lights that are kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>bluish yeah, and I can't so I get they give

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<v Speaker 2>me migrants. I have to wait outside of the waiting

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<v Speaker 2>room until they let me in. Really, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the heart to tell them. Just would you get

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<v Speaker 2>something a warmer light?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Well? Can you wear certain glasses?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I should wear sunglasses?

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<v Speaker 3>They give me sunglasses at my dentist really, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like tinted lenses. Oh that's interesting. But see this is

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm in the waiting.

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<v Speaker 3>Room, even in the waiting room, it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I think it's almost worse. So I don't, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to approach that.

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<v Speaker 3>I would approach it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's hard to find a good dentist, and I

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<v Speaker 2>like this person.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a great I do have a great dentist.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would just talk to them about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, Okay, yeah, maybe just leave an anonymous c LP

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<v Speaker 2>review or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, I mean this is not something that they

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<v Speaker 3>can change. You mean the blue lights in the waiting room.

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<v Speaker 2>In the waiting room, it's it's almost that like they're

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<v Speaker 2>like led lights or whatever, and they obviously just put

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<v Speaker 2>no thought into like which bulb they should buy, and

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<v Speaker 2>so they're blinding really blue. And if you wait too long,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm too sensitive.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you treat it like empathy, empathy towards the person

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<v Speaker 3>that is in the in the reception. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you deal with these lights all day long?

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<v Speaker 2>That's such a good weight to approach. Yes, I'm worried

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<v Speaker 2>about you, right, I'm fine with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do have a problem with the daylight lights

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<v Speaker 3>being used in interiors. Do you know how that's been

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<v Speaker 3>going on?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not familiar.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's like color temperatures for different kinds of lights,

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<v Speaker 3>And this would be like the lights here, like an

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<v Speaker 3>indoor tungsten light as opposed to a day and a

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<v Speaker 3>daylight light feels like it's you're in outside, right, too bright?

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<v Speaker 3>It's too bright. But also it has a temperature to it,

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<v Speaker 3>a color to it that is like whiter. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>you'd say, right. And a lot of times people, especially

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<v Speaker 3>in airbnbs or hotels, Oh yeah, they will put in

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<v Speaker 3>daylight bulbs interior lamps, and it's hard. You'll know it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like bathroom lighting in your living room.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly, it's so bright so you can see every pore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which you just don't need.

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<v Speaker 3>In living spaces.

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<v Speaker 2>Living spaces, well, I mean thinking of I mean speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of unpleasant things and things that I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with. I was excited to have you here today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. We've met a couple, we've.

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<v Speaker 2>Met a couple of times. We've spent enough time together

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<v Speaker 2>that I thought we would have a nice time, we

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<v Speaker 2>would chat, move on with our days. The podcast is

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<v Speaker 2>called I said no gifts. I assume at least one

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<v Speaker 2>email was sent to you with the title I would hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that someone within this production is a professional.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a little thrown when you walked into

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<v Speaker 2>the studio holding what couldn't more clearly be a gift,

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<v Speaker 2>This beautifully wrapped, kind of book sized gift. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a Santa Claus, very cute, little little stration.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a gift for me?

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<v Speaker 3>It is? I apologize if it sets you off or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought it was sarcastic or ironic of a title.

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<v Speaker 3>I just didn't. I mean, I don't. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 3>gift giver. Okay, I don't. It's my wife's department, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I'm not a guy that likes to introduce

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<v Speaker 3>more waste into this world. Most of the people I

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<v Speaker 3>know have everything they want, right, and if they don't,

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<v Speaker 3>they should be able to get it whenever they want.

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<v Speaker 2>And you surround yourself with people who are just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of living simple people.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, sure, simple people. So this was an interest. So

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that Emai, I said, well, this is an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting challenge for me to see if I can embrace

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<v Speaker 3>the idea of gift giving. I don't even know how

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<v Speaker 3>to wrap presence, and I figured it out.

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<v Speaker 2>You did a nice show.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't the best back here.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's better than I could have done.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, I don't know that the.

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<v Speaker 2>Corners are so clean. My corners with a gift wrapping,

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<v Speaker 2>they're always kind of puffed out or too much tape

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<v Speaker 2>on them.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But in the spirit of not wasting, I got

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<v Speaker 3>you something that I don't think involved any waste. Oh, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>if you will accept that, I'd appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Should I open it here on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that how you do it?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe we'll make an exception. Tokay, okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>oh crispy, okay. So it is a book.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a book.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a book, Songs of the Doomed, with an

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<v Speaker 2>introduction by you, written by Hunter S. Thompson.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so I want you to read the inscription in

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<v Speaker 3>the Is that what it's called? Inscription?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, this is Bridger. They sent me six copies

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<v Speaker 2>of this book. I hope you can read.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it looks like you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I can't back out now, I can't lie about reading.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love tim. They sent you six copies of.

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<v Speaker 3>This book, right because I wrote the introduction?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And what am I going to do with six copies

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<v Speaker 3>of the same book? I don't need six, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a weird thing for the publisher to do. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this to pump up the sales numbers?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but now I have five copies, which

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<v Speaker 3>is too much? Right as well? I'm so I'm on.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you consider a regift or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm offloading some stuff. So you're doing me a

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<v Speaker 3>favor as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Hate to hear it. Well, this is a weird position

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.199
<v Speaker 2>that they've put you in, because if you were to

0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:59.679
<v Speaker 2>just drop them off at Goodwill, that's keeping people from

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<v Speaker 2>buying book, right, if you were to give them to friends,

0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 2>it feels weird. I can't imagine, do you. Is it

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<v Speaker 2>a thing you leave on the table in case somebody

0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 2>comes over and they say, hey, I had like a copy.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't. I just had. I have a bookshelf

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 3>and I have six copies of that book on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I have five.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you possibly supposed to do with this?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I mean I didn't read it, but

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 3>revolved that I wrote the introduction. Uh. The publisher wrote

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.679
<v Speaker 3>me and asked me to write the intro, and I

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<v Speaker 3>I did read some of it. It's a collection of

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<v Speaker 3>his It's a collection of some of his writings from

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<v Speaker 3>various points of his life. And I mean, I grew

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<v Speaker 3>up reading hunter S. Thompson and knew enough about him

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<v Speaker 3>to And he said, just write a couple of pages

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 3>about Huntress Thompson and how you feel about it. Right,

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I'll do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you talked to it? I assume you've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this publicly about Hunter S. Thompson at some point. It

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.160
<v Speaker 2>wasn't just a wild swing by the publisher.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I think he was just he knew me

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:11.360
<v Speaker 3>in general from my podcast and from whatever. He probably

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:13.159
<v Speaker 3>just said, do you I mean, he might have asked,

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 3>did you are you? Are you a fan of Huntress Thompson?

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Would you be interested?

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 2>And then was it difficult writing the intro? Let me

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 2>see you feel like that's high stakes?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh No, I don't. I couldn't have met. I don't

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 3>think it was very difficult. It was really only look,

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 3>this is page one of it. This is page and

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 3>we're done. That's what he said. He goes, we only

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<v Speaker 3>need like whatever the page and the number is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very short which I appreciate because when when

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>there's an intro in a book, I usually skip it

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:48.679
<v Speaker 2>because it's it's like, you know, a full chapter, and

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, let me just read the book. I

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 2>don't need anyone else's opinion right now. No, yeah, And

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to waste any more time. I'm already

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 2>wasting time reading, so why why would I possibly do that?

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 2>But this feels like this is a low pressure intro.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no excuse to not read my intro.

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of embarrassing if you don't. You should

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 2>almost read it by accident.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's see here. And then there's always like an intro,

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 3>and then there's a preface, well what is the difference?

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 2>And an author's note and an editor's note in this one.

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, so they've gone too far.

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.439
<v Speaker 3>I also love when they say editor's note and then

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:28.199
<v Speaker 3>it's like three pages like it should be, just like,

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 3>I hope you enjoyed the book.

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 2>The editors just stepping in and giving themselves a few pages.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you know. We went to great length to

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 3>make sure that the work we did was at the

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 3>highest level of quality.

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 2>At this point, you've already got the reader hooked. You've

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 2>got them to either buy or get into the library.

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Damn editor, I have to say. Shortly before this book

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 3>went to press, we were stunned and profoundly demoralized by

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 3>the newsbook that had been seized certain I don't know

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 3>what anyway, and then you got quotes from other books.

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 3>It's I was like the quote from other books, I

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, setting a tone, Oh.

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 3>I see, who is this one from George Barker, Sacred

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Elegy five, nineteen forty three. Fiend, Behind the Fiend, Behind

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:28.360
<v Speaker 3>the Fiend, Behind the Fiend, all right. I also kind

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:29.959
<v Speaker 3>of threw him under the bus here a little bit,

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 3>I think, really well, because then you read more like

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 3>I think my point was like, when you're in high school,

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.479
<v Speaker 3>there's something cool about her, of course, very cool. Then

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 3>you get older and you're like, well, this is no

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 3>way to live. There's no way to behave.

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:45.159
<v Speaker 2>It's a bad life.

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 3>You're like doing all these drugs and response shooting, shooting

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 3>stuff and not doing your work.

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 2>No one can count on you, I know, and everybody

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason it's working.

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're getting rewarded. Ye and bad behavior.

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 2>He should have been jailed. Yeah, he should have been

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>in prison. No, I never read Hunter s Thompson, and

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I think then got to a point where it's like, well,

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 2>now it's too late, and I feel like it is

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>the sort of thing where like the season need to

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 2>be planted early, so like, yeah, I wonder if he

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 2>would annoy me.

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Now Yeah, I don't know. I mean it's where I think,

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, the big ones are, well, they're exciting to read.

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Right, I feel like he's probably it's it's one of

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 2>those like.

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 3>But of its time as well, and a lot of

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 3>it was very contemporary, writing about Nixon or whatever's going

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 3>on in the country at that time. That feels like

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 3>he must have been really exciting to read in the

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 3>moment as it's happening.

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.640
<v Speaker 2>But I'm sure a lot of those things still apply now.

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 3>They do as well, obviously obviously.

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 2>But interesting. Is there any do you feel like this

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 2>is a good starting point for me to start reading Hunt.

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. No, I don't think I don't

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:56.880
<v Speaker 3>think so. I mean, this is his stuff from the nineties,

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's like my first Rolling Stones record is

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 3>is about Bridges to Babylon or something.

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.959
<v Speaker 2>You don't associate him with the nineties at all. I mean,

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 2>what is he writing about in the nineties, Well, that's.

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 3>When he kind of moved to Colorado and is like

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.440
<v Speaker 3>living off the grid and stuff and hanging out some

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 3>value down. Yeah, you know what, dig dive in. Maybe

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 3>it'll be right up your alley. Start with the introduction.

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm trying to think of I guess Fear and Loathing.

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>It feels like a god.

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Then fear and Loathing on the campaign trail of nineteen

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 3>seventy two, the McGovern campaign. Look at me, I'm so smart.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm trying to give you opportunities. Are you

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 2>reading anything right now?

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 3>What am I reading right now? I've been doing a

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 3>lot of audiobooks. Does that count? That counts? Right?

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 2>I think that counts.

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 3>The Room to Dream is this biography slash memoir of

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 3>David Lynch. Oh, that's real great. The premise of this

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 3>book is they of every chapter. You know, let's say

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 3>they're talking about Twin Peaks. So the chapter on Twin

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Peaks is read by the author of who's writing like

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 3>a biography, you know, right right, he met him and

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 3>this is how that happened and all that stuff. And then

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 3>after that chapter David jumps on, I remember that was

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 3>the first time I worked with so and so, and

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 3>it really was something else, and we didn't get all

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 3>of it the first day, but I dropped my impression,

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 3>but I was there for a second. And then it's

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 3>it's his perspective on that period.

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Is there any like him correcting the record or anything?

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, But it does have that feeling of

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 3>not something he's reading. It feels like he's just on

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 3>the mic. Yeah, totally.

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 2>It's such an entertaining person to just hear talk.

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 3>The other one that was like that that I recently

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 3>had as read was al Pacino's.

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Memoir Oh does he read the whole thing?

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Yes, And it's the bad And it does feel like

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 3>he's either reading it for the first time and finding

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 3>out about it for the first time, or he's remembering

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 3>and kind of he keeps talking about losing and then

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 3>I lost all my money, I ran the money. What

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 3>are you gonna do? And I had to do an

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Adam Samla movie. But it's great. He's like I loved

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 3>him so much more than I already loved him after

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 3>reading that.

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 2>He's an incredible person.

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 3>He really is. And what's funny is like there's this

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 3>perception of him as like this tough guy, you know,

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 3>scar faced godfather, and he's like a wacky art guy,

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, interesting, real, wacky, real, you know, he's a

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 3>New York theater actor guy who's not tough at all.

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 3>But anyways, it's a very very good memoir, maybe the best.

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 3>One of the best actor memoirs I've ever.

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Read, was there any like shocking fact you learned or

0:30:58.600 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 2>anything interesting.

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember you think.

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is it's a gun beare question for

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>me to ask.

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's the funny ship was like towards the

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 3>end where he's like he's got all these kids, and

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 3>he's got all these ex wives and and and he's

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 3>like spending money like a madman. But just because I

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 3>know he's talking, he told one story about like flying

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 3>to London private on a private jet and staying at

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 3>taking a whole floor of some hotel, and and and

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 3>then he has like all these cell phones that he's

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 3>paying for and all the and then like meanwhile, his

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 3>his like age is a business manager has been like

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 3>ripping him off for ten years and he's finding out

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 3>about that. And he's like, I don't have any money.

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to do. But then I get

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 3>another job and the money comes in. But he's like,

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 3>you really, He's like sometimes these old guys like their

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 3>expenses are through the rule because living like kings in

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 3>the seventies.

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 2>And eighties, family members who are used to a certain life,

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>see who are probably creating new expenses all the time. Wow, Yeah,

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I kind of getting to that age and still worrying

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 2>about like, oh my god, I'm out of money I've got.

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine it. Yeah, I know, I can't believe

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I might personally have like worked myself into this life

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 3>where I'm like, you know, don't think about it. But

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 3>then here I am at almost fifty and being like

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 3>I have two kids, and I'm like, I gotta have to.

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm just have to. Like I'm doing well, but there's

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 3>no guarantees.

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 2>No, especially in this horrible business.

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that business is changing so dramatically. You know. It's

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 3>occasionally these jobs come in. It's like, oh, that's nice,

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 3>that's a lot of money. Wow, Okay, why would they

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 3>pay me that much money? But then you're like, man,

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 3>that might be the last time that ever happens. Then

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 3>what do I fucking do?

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 2>But I think the thing you have going for you

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 2>is you you lead a pretty stable, reasonable lifestyle.

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's true, it is true. I don't My expenses

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 3>are fairly reasonable, and I have no boats or anything.

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Right, I don't foresee you making any giant swings. It's

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 2>suddenly like you're just out of control.

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 3>And yes, it's true, I'm very conservative.

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Grambling that way, Wow, al Pacino, I need to read that.

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 2>So you're reading the book, I've already forgotten what book

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>you're Oh the data.

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I haven't really gone into like novel world in

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 3>a while and feel bad about that.

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it's uh, reading nonfiction is easier.

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I enjoy you're hearing about real people.

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just like, I don't know if.

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 3>You're going to make stuff up, I'll watch it as

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 3>a TV show or a movie, or if the book

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 3>is so good they'll make it into a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll wait. Yeah, yeah, I uh, fiction more and more,

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like getting halfway through a novel, like I'm not

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 2>enjoying myself and I'm not learning. Whereas if I'm not

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 2>enjoying a piece of nonfiction, I'm like I can be like, well,

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>at least new facts are entering my brain that I

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>could eventually share on a podcast or this kind of thing. Yes,

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 2>a dinner conversation, conversation, that's my entire life now. I

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 2>was just trying to think of new things that I

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 2>can share with friends.

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 3>What else could I They don't want to hear about.

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 2>The absolutely want nothing to do with and then they'll

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:08.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of say the same things back to me and

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:09.479
<v Speaker 2>we'll go home.

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm reading about Facebook right now.

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh and uh oh is there a new book.

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.720
<v Speaker 2>That it might be new? It's called Careless People?

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Mmm, like from an insider's perspective.

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, this woman who was like in charge of pushing

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 2>it into new countries or she she kind of looked

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 2>at it as like, we're going to this is going

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 2>to be a worldwide thing we need to be responsible for.

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 2>And I was trying to convince everyone at Facebook that that.

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Mattered, right, and they said, they said.

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Not really, as long as we're growing our numbers, it

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really matter how our behavior is. I haven't really

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 2>learned I mean, everything you would possibly assume about Facebook, yes.

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Or whatever that is, like, oh yeah.

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 2>But it is fun to have a little stories about

0:34:56.719 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Mark Zuckerberg being a loser. Sure, well, I've got this book.

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything else we need to say about Hunter S. Thompson?

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think so.

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you do any prose writing outside of intros to.

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Well? I mean I write a lot of the stuff

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 3>I do.

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 3>I put out a tour diary book last year through

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 3>McSweeney's that was exciting. Yeah, So yeah, I did that

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 3>every day on tour and that it was. It worked

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 3>well enough that I sent it to Dave Eggers and

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 3>they put it in their one of their issues as

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 3>like a book that you can read, Oh lovely and

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 3>every on my Patreon for office hours. Every Saturday, I

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 3>write a blog. I oh, that's nice, and I really

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 3>like it. I really enjoy writing. Some more things in

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:53.959
<v Speaker 3>the works maybe that are not official, but you know.

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 2>What are you blogging about?

0:35:56.360 --> 0:36:00.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you know, whatever's in my head, whatever, my trip

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 3>to the dentist last week. Politics, things i'm worried about,

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:13.240
<v Speaker 3>if something funny happened in my life that deserves some attention, right, Yeah.

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 3>And also like, oh, here's this thing I'm working on,

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 3>and here's a little bit about why I do it,

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.720
<v Speaker 3>or you know, just a little self introspection or whatever.

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 2>No, I think that's nice almost journaling, Yeah it is.

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 3>It is a bit thing I.

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Miss blogging, you know, in the late oughts, the blogging

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>of all of that.

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's I mean, it feels like it's

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 3>coming back because everyone's doing substats and I don't really

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 3>I follow like a couple of people, but uh, I don't.

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to go there. Because it's one of

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.280
<v Speaker 3>the value benefits of the patriots.

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 2>Of course one of my yes got to have some

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 2>sort of things.

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, of course it costs me nothing but time,

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 3>which is valuable. But I like doing it. I get

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 3>up on Saturday, but it's always Saturday morning, and I

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 3>get up and before everyone's up, I have some coffee

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 3>and I sit there and I try to put something.

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 2>You give yourself a time limit or not really.

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.439
<v Speaker 3>No, it usually, I mean I usually eventually have other

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 3>things to do, so I try to wrap it up.

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sub sex for me, I feel like I'm ambitious

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 2>about reading them. I subscribe to them constantly, and then

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 2>it just becomes this annoying thing in my email. Then

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I start feeling guilty and I don't want to unsubscribe,

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 2>and I guess that just reflects poorly on me. Yeah,

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I should be reading more, but or being more selective

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:34.959
<v Speaker 2>about who I'm Well.

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Did they do a thing on there where you can

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 3>it like collects them all into like a digest or

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 3>something a smart thing.

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Like an app or something that does that.

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you're just like more. It's more of like

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 3>a magazine experience, right, reading a bunch of emails that

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 3>we don't want to read a bunch of emails.

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Getting a long emails and unpleasant things.

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 3>I just got one this morning about my h this

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 3>commercial I'm doing show. I'll show you just the email length.

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 2>No way, no way, that's probably two printed pages.

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of numbers in here. Times.

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I have to imagine that could be boiled down to

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 2>like four bulleted points. That person is wasting their time.

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a brain dump. It's like you write that

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.399
<v Speaker 3>separately and then then you'll answer your own.

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Questions to figure out what you actually have to convey.

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 2>That's a bad email, right or that's like almost an

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 2>old fashioned type of email.

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And there's like a couple of questions question marks

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 3>at the end. Too many question marks at the end. Okay,

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:40.320
<v Speaker 3>calm down, reset?

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:42.879
<v Speaker 2>Have you responded to it yet? No? See that sort

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 2>of thing. That would I would hit snooze on that

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 2>probably four times before I got back to it.

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Do you want to hear a funny text exchange my

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 3>mom and me and my wife. Maybe you need a

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 3>little more context of who we're dealing with here, But

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 3>let's just pretend we all have moms.

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 2>We've all they all have a certain texting style.

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so this was there. She's coming. She's in Palm Springs,

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 3>so it's it's she comes to visit us quite a bit.

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 3>I met your mom's yes, of course in Palm Springs.

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 3>So she's coming for the weekend. And she texts my

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 3>wife and I yesterday, Okay, we'll come. This is this

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:23.240
<v Speaker 3>okay comes out of nowhere.

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's like.

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 3>It's a news thread, a new thread.

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay is a response to yeah.

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, okay, we'll come sat. We'll just say we'll

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 3>come Saturday unless you need me Friday for some reason.

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Exclamation point, question mark heart. My wife says, sounds great,

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 3>thumbs up. My mom says, sorry, did you mean coming

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:56.279
<v Speaker 3>question mark Saturday? Question mark comes great? Or Friday sounds great? No,

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 3>So she then clarifies, Oops, was in card doing verbal

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 3>and didn't understand my accent accent because I understand my accent.

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:16.720
<v Speaker 3>I'll come Sat unless here different my wife. My wife,

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 3>very patient, says, but this is a little little attitude here.

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting, she's getting hurt.

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 3>You said will come Saturday. I said, sounds great. Clown face.

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Calling your mama clown.

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Clown. Yes, I realized, she says, yes, I realized that

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 3>when I reread it. Sorry about that, but I'll see

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 3>you Saturday. Can't we see you? But it was like,

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.799
<v Speaker 3>will come Saturday unless you need me Friday for some reason.

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Sounds great. Your reaction to that would be see you Saturday.

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's a very I mean, it's just a

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:51.720
<v Speaker 2>clear there's not that many options there.

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 3>No, no, yeah, anyways, I was just watching all that.

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:56.280
<v Speaker 3>I didn't get involved.

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.839
<v Speaker 2>I did not Oh you were, but you're you were

0:40:58.880 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>on the text.

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 3>On the time said no no chiming in.

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 2>If I open a text thread and there's like more

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 2>than three things going, I just wait for it to

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>similar back down. I'm like, I'm not going to answer

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:12.919
<v Speaker 2>everybody's questions here. If two more two or three people

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 2>are communicating, they'll figure it out, and then I could

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 2>say the final thing for sure, heart something. I won't

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 2>do a thumbs up, because then it just seems like

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I was mad the whole time.

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 3>People get mad about the thumbs up.

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 2>It's a cold response. I don't know, and it's a

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 2>strange thing that it is, because it's just a neutral thing.

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.320
<v Speaker 3>I guess if you I think we're too over zealous

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 3>with the hearts. Yeah, and I say that those things

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 3>are like conversation enders.

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, completely right. It's like I don't want to say

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.879
<v Speaker 2>any other things to you, even if it's a heart,

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.399
<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, but the thumbs.

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Up got it, it's a got it without being that brusque.

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:51.399
<v Speaker 2>About it, right.

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I think if we just moved back to more thumbs

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 2>up on everything, less hearts, then the heart would mean more.

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 3>You know what drives me? That's in a in a sorry.

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 2>I keep going on that.

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, if you're in a group thread and somebody

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 3>goes and if let's say it's a happy birthday, sure,

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 3>happy birthday scenario. The person that goes back and then

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 3>likes the all the various bing bing bing, you're getting

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 3>all these alerts that this person is going back and

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 3>liking things.

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Sam, Yeah, that's so unfair to every fo.

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 3>We assume that you liked or I mean we maybe

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 3>we don't. Maybe we we should assume it. It doesn't

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 3>matter to you that other people said happy birthday in

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:36.280
<v Speaker 3>this thread.

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's almost it's not about you. They don't care,

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 2>and so they're just like checking boxes here. Oh a

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 2>little check is a decent one. They should add my.

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Friend who's who's also my tour manager when we tour,

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 3>a longtime great friend. His go to reply is the

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 3>check mark emoji, like when things are like clear, final, right,

0:42:58.920 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 3>che market.

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 2>That's way better than the thumbs up, because I do

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 2>think a thumbs up in real life is almost always sarcastic.

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:10.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean rarely do you do that great? Well yeah, yeah,

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 2>but the check people love to see a check Yeah.

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 2>There we go, all right, self issue, And your mom's

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 2>coming Saturday.

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 3>We'll see she might, she might. It's Friday now she

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 3>might be there. Oh, I thought you said, And I

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 3>want to say to her, this is where I want

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 3>to come from. Come whenever you want. Yeah, Like she

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 3>we have a little guest house that she has full

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 3>access to. Yes, she can come and go as she pleases.

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 3>We love to have her, of course, and she's welcome anytime.

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:45.280
<v Speaker 3>We We don't when we were when the kids were younger,

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 3>there was more of that feeling of like can you

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 3>come and.

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Right we need your help right now, we need your help.

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Now we're kind of like the kids are, they're older

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 3>and they can kind of like do their own thing.

0:43:58.160 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 3>We still have to, you know, we we still have

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 3>to pick them up and do that stuff. But we

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 3>have lots of where so that maybe is feeling a

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 3>little there's a little transition there where it's like, you know,

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 3>we were it's not so much about the childcare, but

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 3>if you're if you want to come early, come down.

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I can't imagine she's going to be that much,

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, a trouble.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 3>No, it's not trouble.

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 2>No. I think that's that lines up with my mom's behavior,

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:30.320
<v Speaker 2>where you almost have to beg her to do things

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 2>that are fine.

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she thinks being doing.

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Normal behavior is overstepping her boundaries. Right, No, that's fine.

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 2>And the fact that we've had to ask you, now

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:42.800
<v Speaker 2>that's trouble exactly.

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 3>It's like, did you want me to empty the dishwasher?

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I don't, like, do you want to? If

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 3>you want to have to a dishwasher? Like that would

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 3>be great helpful, sure, but don't ask me if like

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 3>would I I rather do it? No? Like you know

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 3>what I mean? Like, now we're talking about emptying the dishwasher.

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 2>What about me makes you think I would be mad

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:07.840
<v Speaker 2>that you emptied the dishwasher?

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Exactly? Yeah, sweet sweet people absolutely.

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Lovely let me always are the best.

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Intentions, best intentions. I want to I'm curious about your

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>policy on locked doors at your house because my boyfriend.

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Is this is pretty now okay, I mean, I can't

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 3>imagine your audience is full of bunch of burglars and

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 3>MS thirteen gang members.

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 2>We have a very gang heavy audience. Yeah. Uh, my

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend is very like, even when we're at home, every

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 2>door needs to be locked at all times.

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not. I'm not that way. My

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 3>wife is more that way. I just can't imagine a scenario,

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 3>but it would certainly happen. I also remember my so

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 3>my dad had They had a body shop, like a

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 3>tow truck company and that kind of thing in Pennsylvania, right,

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 3>And so they had this lot that was not fenced

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 3>or anything, and it was but it was where the

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 3>cars would be parked, be waiting to get service done

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 3>or waiting to get body shop work done or something, right,

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 3>and they would get occasionally broken into. Sure, and his

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 3>line was always like, it's cheaper for it would be

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't make sense, we will never do it, but

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 3>it truly would be cheaper just to have the doors

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 3>open and and the windows rolled down right, because they're

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 3>going to get in there, yes, and they just have

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 3>to Now we have to play for the broken window

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 3>to right right.

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's my thing where I'm like, if we ever

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 2>get in such an extreme scenario that someone who's entered

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 2>the house while we're here, they're going to do it

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 2>either way. Yeah, yeah, they have bad intentions, let them

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 2>in right. At least it'll be smoother, it be less scary, right.

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know where I guess there's

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:48.439
<v Speaker 2>just maybe I'm too care free.

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a little bit of both, a little

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 3>I think it's you know, it's sure lock lock them

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 3>up at night.

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, lock it up at night, I hope.

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we lock it up at night. Believe me, folks,

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:00.840
<v Speaker 3>we will. We lock it up at night. You're not

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:01.879
<v Speaker 3>getting into our house at night.

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you have alarms?

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes, we do have an alarm. We have an alarm

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 3>that I'm asking all these questions.

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Also, just say your address on the podcast.

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:19.760
<v Speaker 3>We have alarms that I don't I'm not fastidious about. Okay.

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 2>See that's how I am sure.

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 3>And then you got to go in there and turn

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 3>it off.

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Right, And I'm always worried that I'll forget and then

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:25.959
<v Speaker 2>set it off.

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 3>And we've had the cops come a couple of times.

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you, I'll tell you a story about the

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 3>cops coming.

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 2>I would love to hear it.

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Now. You said earlier in that everybody loves me, right, yes,

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 3>everybody else. It's not true because I have created many

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 3>enemies on the far right. Oh sure, right, another part

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 3>of your listenership. Right. So, a few years ago I

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 3>went to war with this guy named Baked No, what's

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 3>his name, Baked Potato or something. It was one of

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 3>these I don't know, it's one of these YouTuber right

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:00.319
<v Speaker 3>wing lunatics who went to the capitol at you were.

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Six gutter scum, yeah.

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Bad guy. And he would go around and he would

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:11.319
<v Speaker 3>film live streamers. Oh yeah. And you would go into

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.760
<v Speaker 3>like seven elevens and like accost people and harassed people,

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 3>and people would like send him money over the like

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 3>it was like a game they were playing. It's really

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 3>kind of fascinating but also the most disgusting thing. And

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 3>I called him out, and I was calling I was like,

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 3>YouTube should not YouTubers. I was like, why why am

0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:28.760
<v Speaker 3>I using YouTube?

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:29.439
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:29.839
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 3>I love YouTube, yes, but they're also airing this like

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 3>this nazi walking around like abusing people. Yeah so but

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.319
<v Speaker 3>of course that makes me come out like scold and

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 3>all this. Anyways, I like riled up his crowd. They

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 3>started coming after me. They were live streaming, like went

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 3>to my old office and they're like going and so

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I was like really on edge. And the day that

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 3>they went to my office, we were at home. It

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:57.239
<v Speaker 3>was Sunday, and I was watching this guy like which

0:48:57.280 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 3>our office is like three miles away, and she was

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 3>like live streaming out there like throwing. It was not

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't. He was an idiot and he wasn't like

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 3>but it was like, oh god, this guy's like called

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:09.919
<v Speaker 3>the cops. I get this guy out of here right right.

0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:13.760
<v Speaker 3>The office was closed. It was a Sunday, And about

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Speaker 3>ten maybe like a half hour later, I get a

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 3>bang bang bang on the door.

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:20.919
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 3>Before that, I asked my wife to make sure that

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:29.439
<v Speaker 3>our alarm was on sure right, so she I don't

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 3>hear anything. I said, can you make sure that the

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 3>alar like that this works because there's this guy like

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 3>three miles away. I get a bang bang bang on

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 3>the door. My kids are there. My mom is there.

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 3>It's Sunday, she's there. I look out the window. We

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 3>have a little peephole thing. I'm trying to think. I'm

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 3>trying to get this.

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Order correct for our baked potato listener.

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bang, bang bang. I say, get the fuck away

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 3>from the door. Oh, get the fuck away, and they

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 3>go it's the police. It's cop. And I'm screaming at them,

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 3>and they're about to break through the.

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Door because I sus scenario.

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is like a swatting thing. Yet there, you know,

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 3>they're treating me like I'm barricading my family in the

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 3>house of the shotgun. They don't know. And what happened

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:19.399
<v Speaker 3>was and eventually, like they show their badge, they open

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 3>the fucking door, like you know, I don't know. I'm

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:25.919
<v Speaker 3>out of my mind, of course, and I opened the door.

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 3>They sit me down. I don't. They don't handcuff, they

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:31.200
<v Speaker 3>sit me down. They have to clear they have to

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 3>go in the house, make sure that nothing that there's

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 3>that they like, they get everybody out of the house.

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:41.880
<v Speaker 3>They have to search the house. Helicopters are above. And

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:46.400
<v Speaker 3>what happened was my wife pressed the panic button this

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:52.319
<v Speaker 3>little fob and then her phone was dead. When they

0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 3>tried to call, which they do. They call, say is

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 3>this an emergency? No one answers, and the protocols began.

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course.

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:03.320
<v Speaker 3>And the cops come and they just assumed the worst,

0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 3>that terribles happened. But three other cop cars come and

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:13.400
<v Speaker 3>then within about I would say thirty seconds, the cops

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:15.960
<v Speaker 3>started to understand what was going on, and I was,

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, under they explained it. But it could have

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 3>gone could have.

0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Been oh so so badly.

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:25.319
<v Speaker 3>But it did stem from this, like true, you know,

0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 3>fear of the lunatics out there right totally. I have

0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 3>to be a little careful about, like, yeah, keeping keeping

0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:31.759
<v Speaker 3>the family.

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Safe, of course. And let me ask you this about that.

0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Do they is there like a fine, do they charge

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:37.360
<v Speaker 2>you anything?

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 3>They did not. I think that was I'm pretty sure

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:45.359
<v Speaker 3>that didn't happen. I think it might have been. There

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 3>was a warning, don't do this, keep your phone charged. Yeah.

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Did you follow that story about the Weezer basis.

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a little bit. I don't know if we know

0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 3>everything about that story, do we?

0:51:56.920 --> 0:52:00.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. All I know is there was a

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:03.239
<v Speaker 2>high speed chase. Yeah, and there's footage of the one

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 2>of the suspects in someone's backyard. I don't know if

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 2>you saw this, like trying to disguise himself as the

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:12.120
<v Speaker 2>person living there, and he's hosing down the garden like

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:12.760
<v Speaker 2>he's gardening.

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's smart and incredible idea. Yeah.

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 2>And then apparently she came out of the house and

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:22.160
<v Speaker 2>was holding a gun.

0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Because why, that's what That's the big question.

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess you thought that there was something wrong that

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 2>she had to defend herself from. And uh and then

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 2>gets shot and then.

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:36.719
<v Speaker 3>Drop the gun.

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 2>And she wouldn't drop the gun.

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:38.919
<v Speaker 3>Why wouldn't you drop the gun?

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Great question?

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Bad morning, bad morning? Maybe was it in the morning?

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 2>I think so? Okay, I mean I get I'm just

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 2>saying this because when I found out it was the

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:53.320
<v Speaker 2>morning shows a lack of imagination would be in the

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:53.920
<v Speaker 2>middle of the night.

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:54.759
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know the.

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Footage of the guy hosing down there is daytime unless

0:52:58.239 --> 0:52:59.840
<v Speaker 2>this was like a twenty four hours.

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Nothing to do with whatever Chase was going on. She's wrong.

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:06.279
<v Speaker 2>But this woman has led kind of an interesting life

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:07.920
<v Speaker 2>because I texted a friend and he said, oh, she

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 2>was on my storytelling show in twenty eleven. Oh, she

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 2>was in a harem. So she's got a whole life.

0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:16.279
<v Speaker 2>She's got a very rich life, this woman, and now

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:17.760
<v Speaker 2>she's been shot and is now.

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:19.960
<v Speaker 3>I wonder I'm trying to think of like the bass

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 3>player for Weezer. He probably makes a pretty good living, sure,

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 3>but not probably maybe not as good as you. Right,

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:32.240
<v Speaker 3>she's like not a he's like a hired gun.

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's not the song right right, he's not getting

0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 2>could be replaced at any moment.

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so he probably makes a nice away like a

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:42.399
<v Speaker 3>weekly like a salary right when they're on the road.

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how does that work for when you're a you

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 2>are a member of the band, you're on in all

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:52.080
<v Speaker 2>the press photos. Yeah, you must be contractually something.

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would think you're more. I don't know. It's

0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 3>different for every band from what I could tell, but

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:02.480
<v Speaker 3>there are band like I remember I heard the Rolling Stones,

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Like the only actual owners in like is Mick and Keith.

0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:07.680
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 3>But if you were the drummer and the bass player

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Bill Wyman or Charlie Watts ron Wood, you're you're just

0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:18.360
<v Speaker 3>on your being paid a salary to be in the Stones.

0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because you don't really think about that. You

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:21.719
<v Speaker 2>just think everybody's part of the team.

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all the money gets thrown into the pot in

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 3>the middle of the table.

0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Dive on split it up. Yeah. All I know is

0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:31.839
<v Speaker 2>that the bass player played Coachella the next day.

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:34.759
<v Speaker 3>So it couldn't be that bad. Couldn't be that Do

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 3>they have kids? That's what I want to know.

0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I think there was a babysitter outside while this is happening,

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe from another house. I don't know. Again, I should

0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:45.440
<v Speaker 2>have done a little more research before talking about it publicly. Yeah,

0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:47.960
<v Speaker 2>but these are the things that I kind of wah.

0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:50.399
<v Speaker 3>Gap between what we're doing now and when this comes out.

0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Do you guys try to keep it tight?

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:55.800
<v Speaker 2>That's a great question. Oh wait, Tentative released June thirty.

0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:57.880
<v Speaker 2>That can't possibly be true.

0:54:58.120 --> 0:55:00.480
<v Speaker 3>It's going to age like old milk.

0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 2>There's no that's wrong.

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:07.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's wrong. Okay, Well they deleted the whole sentence

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:09.200
<v Speaker 3>that he's got a monitor here, and they deleted the

0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:09.920
<v Speaker 3>whole sentence.

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:13.280
<v Speaker 2>They're shutting down the podcast as we speak. The episode

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:18.399
<v Speaker 2>will never be I imagine it's may ish good oh Ano,

0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:20.920
<v Speaker 2>they're typing goodbye. So now now I think too much

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:24.719
<v Speaker 2>bomb enough is enough? I think two weeks from it'll

0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:27.680
<v Speaker 2>still this will be definitely old Jews. Well, we will

0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:29.960
<v Speaker 2>have all the facts of the case. Hopefully she'll be

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 2>out on bail and maybe she can come to the podcast. Yes,

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:37.839
<v Speaker 2>missus uh shriner reach out.

0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:41.279
<v Speaker 3>You know that? So you know? Now you know who's

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:42.440
<v Speaker 3>the bass player for Weezer.

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, this is the problem to him. Have a very

0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:47.600
<v Speaker 2>complicated past with Weezer. You do growing up listening to Weezer,

0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:51.320
<v Speaker 2>and then I was a real fan through high school. Yeah,

0:55:51.360 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 2>and now just know everything about them forever, right, And

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:56.279
<v Speaker 2>so this guy was hired. Maybe he's like to.

0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Tell you what I was a big fan of Weezer.

0:55:59.040 --> 0:55:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Did you grow up listening to.

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Well, I didn't grow up listening to him. I was

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 3>in college. Oh yeah, little older. So but I love

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:09.759
<v Speaker 3>that Blue album. That first album is so it's poor,

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.879
<v Speaker 3>so elemental. And on tour the last second to last

0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:15.920
<v Speaker 3>night of tour, we didn't do this a lot, but

0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:17.879
<v Speaker 3>everyone's in a while. We do like music. We'd play

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:21.040
<v Speaker 3>music in the on the bus after the show and

0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 3>we'd all sit around listen to music. And second to

0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:26.839
<v Speaker 3>last night it was like we're listening to the whole

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Blue album and we everybody. Eight of us we sat

0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:34.880
<v Speaker 3>there blasted it like we're at the concert and like

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:38.440
<v Speaker 3>sang through the whole record. Everybody knew it, everyone loved it,

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:40.759
<v Speaker 3>and we're like, there's just not a bad song on it.

0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 3>It's like a perfect.

0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's one of those rare things just beginning

0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:45.040
<v Speaker 2>to end.

0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but so I but then, you know, if they

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 3>as as the kids say, they fell off.

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I think their first two albums are perfect, and then

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, you can't, you can't be great.

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 3>The Green Album's good, The Green Album's fine.

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fun enough to listen, and they've they've written

0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 2>plenty of fun songs since. But you know, yeah, most musicians,

0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:08.800
<v Speaker 2>the road gets bumpy eventually. Sure, Okay, I think we

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:11.399
<v Speaker 2>should play a game. We're going to play a game

0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:12.919
<v Speaker 2>called Gift or a Curse. But I need a number

0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 2>between one and ten from you.

0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:15.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh, easily eight eight.

0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I love that number. I have to do some light

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 2>calculating to get our game pieces. Right now. You can promote, recommend,

0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 2>do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 3>You can go check out my music on your streaming services.

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 3>You can watch Office Hours live on YouTube, or go

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 3>to Patreon dot com slash Office hours live on Cinema

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:38.320
<v Speaker 3>is the thing I hold deepest to my heart at

0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 3>the moment as far as my creative output. You could

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:45.760
<v Speaker 3>find that on our self funded subscription based streaming service

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:51.240
<v Speaker 3>High Network, h EI Network, Dot TV and Go Dodgers.

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 3>I know they're They've got all the best players their

0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 3>the payroll is extremely high. But it's an important team

0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 3>in the history baseball. We should support them. Even if

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:05.280
<v Speaker 3>you're not a fan. We have to support them.

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Get behind the boys.

0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 3>They are the boys in blue in our city. If

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 3>a Los Angeles suffered tremendous tragedy this year with the fires.

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 2>The least you could do is support our Please.

0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Support the Dodgers. Chavez Ravine, Thank.

0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:22.240
<v Speaker 2>You, listener. I already told you about Patreon, et cetera,

0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:27.000
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Chicago, don't forget, don't let us down. Okay, Tim,

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:29.960
<v Speaker 2>this is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 2>going to name three things. You'll tell me if there

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:34.200
<v Speaker 2>are a gift or a curse and why, and then

0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, because there

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:37.480
<v Speaker 2>are correct answers. You can lose the game, you can

0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:40.400
<v Speaker 2>win the game. You can do fine. This first one

0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 2>is from one of our Patreon listeners, Randall Gift or

0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 2>a curse Life on Earth?

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 3>It's a gift. Why I love it? I love living.

0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.000
<v Speaker 3>I know I love living because I've been in situations

0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 3>where I thought I might die and I it was

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 3>very upsetting to me. And the older I get, the

0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 3>more I am so disappointed that it comes to an end. Right,

0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:03.800
<v Speaker 3>you know that it will come to an end, And

0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:06.480
<v Speaker 3>it's a terrible deal actually to think that you will

0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:11.040
<v Speaker 3>eventually not be around. So with that in mind, it's

0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:15.400
<v Speaker 3>not always easy, and sometimes it's hard and not always pleasant.

0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:18.080
<v Speaker 3>And I wish I didn't have to eat every day.

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:20.280
<v Speaker 3>I wish I didn't have to go to the bathroom

0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:21.680
<v Speaker 3>all every twenty minutes.

0:59:23.080 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 2>We've had to stop down the podcast ten times.

0:59:25.160 --> 0:59:26.600
<v Speaker 3>I haven't gone. I mean I have to go, but

0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:29.960
<v Speaker 3>I haven't stopped. At the end of the day, it

0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:33.200
<v Speaker 3>all shakes out to being a gift, correct, thank you?

0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:36.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, of course, And I think this is right.

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 2>With everything going on, it might be the obvious answer

0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:39.560
<v Speaker 2>might be cursed.

0:59:39.640 --> 0:59:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm very blessed and lucky. I mean, I'm sure

0:59:41.920 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 3>there are people out there who feel like it's a curse.

0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:46.320
<v Speaker 3>But I'm happy to not be one of those people.

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, I think ultimately there's a gift to be completely

0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:54.080
<v Speaker 2>sincere and honest about this one. How could you not

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:58.440
<v Speaker 2>say unless? Yeah, I'm sure if people we're all having

0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 2>are relatively difficult times with whatever situation, but it's a gift, Randall,

1:00:04.080 --> 1:00:07.400
<v Speaker 2>How dare you even put this on the list? Forget it? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so you've gotten one correct so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's gonna be the easy one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an easy oneye. This next one is from a

1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:15.200
<v Speaker 2>listener named Emily. Gift or a curse going to bed

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<v Speaker 2>with wet hair?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's neither, but uh, for the if we're gonna,

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<v Speaker 3>if we're gonna binary this, for me, it would be

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<v Speaker 3>a curse. I don't like that feeling. Yeah, I don't generally.

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<v Speaker 3>I generally shower in the morning, so it's not really

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<v Speaker 3>an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>If I was going to shower at night, I would

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<v Speaker 3>dry my hair best as possible. I don't want to

1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:39.360
<v Speaker 3>sleep on a wet pillow, obviously, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong curse, I mean I said curse. What you said curse?

1:00:44.800 --> 1:00:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm actually I was gonna say wrong gift. I

1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:52.480
<v Speaker 2>was so excited to tell you you're wrong. Unfortunately, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on record on this podcast is saying taking a shower

1:00:54.640 --> 1:00:57.640
<v Speaker 2>at night is a gift, and so I find I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I kind of have to go. This lines

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<v Speaker 2>up with that. It means you got to take a

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<v Speaker 2>shower at night, which is lovely.

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<v Speaker 3>Your such work for me that at the end of

1:01:07.920 --> 1:01:09.720
<v Speaker 3>the day or the end of the you know, at

1:01:09.720 --> 1:01:12.400
<v Speaker 3>the end of the night, I'm already in bed, I

1:01:12.480 --> 1:01:15.720
<v Speaker 3>lie down in bed, I start watching things, listening to things,

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<v Speaker 3>and the idea of getting up and showering, it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's how I start my life, sorry, start my day.

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<v Speaker 3>My wife takes showers at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, so it can be I don't shower at night

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<v Speaker 2>every night, but it's like a little treat. It feels

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<v Speaker 2>nice on occasion because there's no utility to it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just I'm doing this just because to relax. Whereas

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, you know, I'm well, I still have

1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:39.520
<v Speaker 2>endless time during the day, but I have to get

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<v Speaker 2>things started. I have to actually be clean and go

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<v Speaker 2>out into the world, whereas at night I can get

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<v Speaker 2>my hair wet and lie down on a pillow and

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<v Speaker 2>start the mildew growing.

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<v Speaker 3>You have very short hair, fairly short hair being an issue,

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<v Speaker 3>and yours is really long. Yeah, it's a lot of hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can see why someone might have a problem

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<v Speaker 2>going to bed with soaking, wet hair, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a gift. Finally, this is from a

1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:04.200
<v Speaker 2>listener named joe Anne. Gift or a curse using a

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<v Speaker 2>kitchen knife to open a box.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll see it's I'll just have again. It's right

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<v Speaker 3>down the middle. It's not ideal, it's not the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the world. It's probably what I do half the time,

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<v Speaker 3>Like a steak knife.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like i'msuring not a bread knife.

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<v Speaker 3>Yay, do it you throw it in the sink, throw

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<v Speaker 3>in the dishwasher if you really, you know, why not?

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<v Speaker 3>Just it's probably fine. So I'd say it's a gift

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<v Speaker 3>because it's convenient. You're not searching around for like one

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<v Speaker 3>of those you know, work not utility knives or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a exact o, exact exactly, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, correct gift? What else? What else is anybody using

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<v Speaker 2>to open up box? This is the only knife I ever,

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<v Speaker 2>This is the only knife I own.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, day to day knives. You can take a scissor

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<v Speaker 3>and open it up and right.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind the scissor. Yeah, but even then that

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<v Speaker 2>is a trip to the junk drawer, and my knives

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<v Speaker 2>are just there on the counter, and there's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a danger, kind of a thrill. I don't see anything

1:03:05.480 --> 1:03:08.000
<v Speaker 2>wrong with it. I think, yeah, mild thrill, but you

1:03:08.040 --> 1:03:10.680
<v Speaker 2>have to look for mild thrills. Well, you got two

1:03:10.680 --> 1:03:13.720
<v Speaker 2>out of three great, not absolutely horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's pretty good, decent.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think we should answer a listener question people

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<v Speaker 2>are sending in the voice notes the emails to I said,

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<v Speaker 2>no gives at gmail dot com. Could we play one

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<v Speaker 2>of those.

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<v Speaker 4>H'm bridger and scurrilous, guest. I think that's a word.

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<v Speaker 4>I am calling in because I have a query for you.

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<v Speaker 4>I still have my ex husband's last name, but I

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<v Speaker 4>would like to change it before I have a baby,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't know what to change it to. My

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<v Speaker 4>maiden name doesn't quite feel right anymore, and I need

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<v Speaker 4>some suggestions for what my new last name should be.

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<v Speaker 4>Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>Starting to get why this marriage didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>This person needs a new last name and they've turned to.

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<v Speaker 3>Us well, and also, what's wrong with the originally to

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<v Speaker 3>go back to your original last name.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess she's a new person. I just found a

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<v Speaker 2>new chapter.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the things. These these are the unknown unknowns.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know her first name, do we?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Not? She didn't mention it.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are we doing? What are we working? We're

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<v Speaker 3>working with We're in the docuum, We're we're working in

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<v Speaker 3>the dark.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you change your last name too?

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't change my last name. I'm not I don't

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<v Speaker 3>care about I don't you don't. I don't have any tattoos,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't any piercings. I don't care about any of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care about my identity. You want to call

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<v Speaker 3>me a woman, I don't care. Years ago, I happen

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<v Speaker 3>to be a man who gives a ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Ibout forty years ago, you and I would have both

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<v Speaker 2>had to change our last names for show business.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, yes, Tim Heidecker, I never loved that name.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard name to pronounce.

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<v Speaker 3>Or Yeah, your name's a burden, it's a mess. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>tim uh tim uh. Miller, that's a nice name.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a safe guy. Tim Jones Miller Jones are both

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<v Speaker 2>nice last names that this person could take on.

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<v Speaker 3>That my Miller is my mother's my grandmother's maiden name.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh that's a nice name. Why not?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this there is a Tim Miller is like

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<v Speaker 3>a political he's like as a political guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Good or bad.

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<v Speaker 3>He's good. He was like a Republican who's gone anti Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for him?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's gay?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Gay? It's like when my dad would say, like, he's

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<v Speaker 3>this guy is actually gay. But he's like, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not bad. He's not bad.

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<v Speaker 2>He's nice enough.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a really nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want to hang out with him. Uh, Miller Mill,

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Miller. That's a nice last name. Obviously, wine girl

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<v Speaker 2>or hide is a name she could take on.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, not knowing the first name is criminal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge mister.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we find out? Did this? Is there an email?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I can?

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<v Speaker 3>I just see here.

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<v Speaker 2>I forwarded the email earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>Because if you had a first name, we could work

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<v Speaker 3>with that I could play around with.

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<v Speaker 2>My idea is Sarah Jane. That's the name, Sarah Jane,

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah Jane, Sarah Jane Carter, Sarah Jane Carter. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>nice that seems almost a little house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, ingles, we could do Sarah j Ingles.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to do who's the the the oh

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<v Speaker 3>Nelly Olsen? Yeah, Sarah Jane Olsen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you don't want to be part of the

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<v Speaker 2>Olsen family.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Sarah Jane Potter, Sarah Jane Carter, Sarah Jane Miller, Cruise,

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah Jane Cruse. I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Cruise is a made up last name, isn't it Tom Cruise?

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<v Speaker 2>That's real last name.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is his real name, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>really know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think he has like kind of a strange,

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<v Speaker 2>like a last name that's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>To spell or oh really, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm going to look it up because now I'm embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see Tom Tom Cruise.

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<v Speaker 3>There should be a rule, a law that podcasts aren't

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to look things up.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything just has to be kind of sent out into

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<v Speaker 2>the public.

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<v Speaker 3>Check.

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<v Speaker 2>His middle name is Cruse. His last name is my

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<v Speaker 2>pother Mapither.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, that is a mess and he's the fourth. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well then Sarah Jane Cruise, Mypather the fourth. There we go.

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<v Speaker 3>See.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you pronounce m A p O t h

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<v Speaker 2>e R MAPI my pother? Yeah, I can see why

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<v Speaker 2>he got rid of that. Ah, Sarah Jane, We've given

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<v Speaker 2>you several options.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, yeah, we've done our due diligence.

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<v Speaker 2>S Thompson. I'm just looking around the room, Sarah JM.

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah Jane Thompson's nice. It is nice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a strong name.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say. Find a name that people can immediately identify

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<v Speaker 2>and bell and pronounce. Don't curse yourself with some difficult thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, I mean I do a lot of casting

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<v Speaker 3>with this in this commercial. I'm a very the epidemic

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<v Speaker 3>that it's occurring. Forget all the stuff that RFK Junior

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<v Speaker 3>is talking about, the epidemic of names of young people.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what are you hearing?

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<v Speaker 3>Bryson and uh I can't, I don't. You don't remember

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<v Speaker 3>them because they're they're not they're unfamiliar to you. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you're raiding.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking to a bridger, which that's true. To be fair, say.

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<v Speaker 3>These are there's way worse ones, and people know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Utah and uh Utah culture is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the ground zero for a lot of these names. Famously,

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of creative names coming out of Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>For whatever reason, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Wish I could remember these names. I saw like a

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<v Speaker 3>hundred of them, Like, this is just such a burden

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<v Speaker 3>for these kids as they get older, they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to get what is that again?

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<v Speaker 2>Abreno was a nick you nurse and the names that

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<v Speaker 2>she was coming across nick nurse, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Neo. Oh god, I thought you said her name

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<v Speaker 3>was is nick nurse?

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<v Speaker 2>My sister Nick nurse? I never heard that one the

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<v Speaker 2>name she would provide, there was somebody named Americus. Someone

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<v Speaker 2>named their daughter Americus, which.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't love to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>And now let me just retract and say every I love.

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<v Speaker 3>I love a big, beautiful, diverse world.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course names are just sounds and stupid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're stupid, made up words. But some are way more

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<v Speaker 2>stupid than others, I would say, in our opinion, in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, and they're ultimately Harry, Tom Dick, and Harry

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to Tom? Sally, Jane, Sue, Mary Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the four names you can choose from. That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>At the at the hospital and a baby you should

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<v Speaker 3>have like eight names to choose from.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like picking a license plate. Whatever. Well, we answered

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<v Speaker 2>the question perfectly. Sarah Jane, good luck. Don't send another

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<v Speaker 2>thing back in I can't hear back from you. Tim.

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<v Speaker 2>I have this lovely book to put on my bookshelf.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'll read at least your intro, yes, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see how I feel about that and see where I

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<v Speaker 2>go from there. And I've had a lovely time with you.

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<v Speaker 3>That was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, real pleasure. Thank you for having me listener.

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<v Speaker 2>The podcast is over. You obviously knew this was going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. Hopefully you did, otherwise you're really this is

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of nowhere for you, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what to tell you. Get moving. I love you, goodbye,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our

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<v Speaker 2>senior producer is on Alisa Nelson, and our episodes are

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<v Speaker 2>beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by

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<v Speaker 2>miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without

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<v Speaker 2>our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, No Gifts, that's where you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see pictures of all these one wonderful gifts I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't you want to see the gifts?

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<v Speaker 1>And I invited you here thought, I made myself perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come

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<v Speaker 1>to me empty. And I said, no guests, you're our presences.

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<v Speaker 1>Presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how

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<v Speaker 1>did you dare to survey me?