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Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Pritchard Wineger. We're

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Speaker 2: here in the studio an Aalise, our producer is not here.

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Speaker 2: They've cooked up some sort of some excuse I don't know.

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Speaker 2: and you know, hopefully they can figure it out. So

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Speaker 2: I'm just flying free and loose here. What's going on.

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Speaker 2: Most of my life now is just watching Little House

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Speaker 2: on the Prairie. That's most of my days and nights.

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Speaker 2: The Ingles family has kind of settled into their life.

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Speaker 2: I've read some behind the scenes. You know, it didn't

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Speaker 2: seem like it was that pleasant of a place to work, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: so it adds another dimension to watching the show. It

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Speaker 2: occurred to me last night that I've been shopping for

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Speaker 2: I think that's the one piece of furniture I'm just

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Speaker 2: really not capable of buying. So if you have any

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Speaker 2: tips or tricks, keep them to yourself. So anything else.

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Speaker 2: I've experienced a little bit of parking rage this morning,

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Speaker 2: usually pretty grounding for me. So, oh, business, We're coming

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Speaker 2: What a lovely way to support the podcast. You know,

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Speaker 2: bonus episode. It's all kinds of things. It's wonderful time. Okay, oh,

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Speaker 2: let's get into the podcast. I adore today's guest. Everybody

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Speaker 2: loves today's guest. It's Tim highdeck Er. Tim welcome, Dyson.

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Speaker 3: I have so many enemies. Could you're starting off in

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Speaker 3: such a disingenuous place. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Oh, give me a break, But give me a break.

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Speaker 3: I am. It's so excited you brought up a little

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Speaker 3: my sister and I religiously watched it. Oh you're kidding

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Speaker 3: Uh? Many years ago? But I could. I could picture

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Speaker 3: And you know the story about the ending of the show.

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Speaker 2: I don't because my boyfriend keeps hinting at you won't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you should know. I'm sorry your boyfriend for ruining it.

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Speaker 3: But it feels much longer because you see like half

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Speaker 3: The whole thing is awkward. Can you imagine you end

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Speaker 3: Thank you. We've met a couple, we've.

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Speaker 3: to wrap presence, and I figured it out.

441
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 2: You did a nice show.

442
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 3: This isn't the best back here.

443
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 2: But it's better than I could have done.

444
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I don't know that the.

445
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: Corners are so clean. My corners with a gift wrapping,

446
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: they're always kind of puffed out or too much tape

447
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: on them.

448
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 3: Right, But in the spirit of not wasting, I got

449
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: you something that I don't think involved any waste. Oh, Okay,

450
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 3: if you will accept that, I'd appreciate you.

451
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: Should I open it here on the podcast.

452
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 3: Is that how you do it?

453
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 2: I mean maybe we'll make an exception. Tokay, okay, let's

454
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: oh crispy, okay. So it is a book.

455
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 3: It is a book.

456
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,959
Speaker 2: It is a book, Songs of the Doomed, with an

457
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: introduction by you, written by Hunter S. Thompson.

458
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 3: Oh so I want you to read the inscription in

459
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 3: the Is that what it's called? Inscription?

460
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: Let's see, this is Bridger. They sent me six copies

461
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: of this book. I hope you can read.

462
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 3: Well, it looks like you can.

463
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't back out now, I can't lie about reading.

464
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: And I love tim. They sent you six copies of.

465
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 3: This book, right because I wrote the introduction?

466
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: Right?

467
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 3: And what am I going to do with six copies

468
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 3: of the same book? I don't need six, guys.

469
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: It's a weird thing for the publisher to do. Is

470
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: this to pump up the sales numbers?

471
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, but now I have five copies, which

472
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 3: is too much? Right as well? I'm so I'm on.

473
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if you consider a regift or whatever,

474
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 3: but I'm offloading some stuff. So you're doing me a

475
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: favor as well.

476
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: Hate to hear it. Well, this is a weird position

477
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 2: that they've put you in, because if you were to

478
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 2: just drop them off at Goodwill, that's keeping people from

479
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 2: buying book, right, if you were to give them to friends,

480
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: it feels weird. I can't imagine, do you. Is it

481
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: a thing you leave on the table in case somebody

482
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: comes over and they say, hey, I had like a copy.

483
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I just had. I have a bookshelf

484
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 3: and I have six copies of that book on it.

485
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 3: Now I have five.

486
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: What are you possibly supposed to do with this?

487
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean I didn't read it, but

488
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: revolved that I wrote the introduction. Uh. The publisher wrote

489
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 3: me and asked me to write the intro, and I

490
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: I did read some of it. It's a collection of

491
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: his It's a collection of some of his writings from

492
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: various points of his life. And I mean, I grew

493
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 3: up reading hunter S. Thompson and knew enough about him

494
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Speaker 3: to And he said, just write a couple of pages

495
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: about Huntress Thompson and how you feel about it. Right,

496
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 3: I'll do that.

497
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Speaker 2: Have you talked to it? I assume you've talked about

498
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,239
Speaker 2: this publicly about Hunter S. Thompson at some point. It

499
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: wasn't just a wild swing by the publisher.

500
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 3: Oh no, I think he was just he knew me

501
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 3: in general from my podcast and from whatever. He probably

502
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: just said, do you I mean, he might have asked,

503
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: did you are you? Are you a fan of Huntress Thompson?

504
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: Right?

505
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 3: Would you be interested?

506
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 2: And then was it difficult writing the intro? Let me

507
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 2: see you feel like that's high stakes?

508
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: Uh No, I don't. I couldn't have met. I don't

509
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: think it was very difficult. It was really only look,

510
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: this is page one of it. This is page and

511
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: we're done. That's what he said. He goes, we only

512
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: need like whatever the page and the number is.

513
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Speaker 2: It's a very short which I appreciate because when when

514
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Speaker 2: there's an intro in a book, I usually skip it

515
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 2: because it's it's like, you know, a full chapter, and

516
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, let me just read the book. I

517
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: don't need anyone else's opinion right now. No, yeah, And

518
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to waste any more time. I'm already

519
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: wasting time reading, so why why would I possibly do that?

520
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 2: But this feels like this is a low pressure intro.

521
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: There's no excuse to not read my intro.

522
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of embarrassing if you don't. You should

523
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: almost read it by accident.

524
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see here. And then there's always like an intro,

525
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: and then there's a preface, well what is the difference?

526
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: And an author's note and an editor's note in this one.

527
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, so they've gone too far.

528
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Speaker 3: I also love when they say editor's note and then

529
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 3: it's like three pages like it should be, just like,

530
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Speaker 3: I hope you enjoyed the book.

531
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: The editors just stepping in and giving themselves a few pages.

532
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Speaker 3: I'm sure you know. We went to great length to

533
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Speaker 3: make sure that the work we did was at the

534
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: highest level of quality.

535
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: At this point, you've already got the reader hooked. You've

536
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 2: got them to either buy or get into the library.

537
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Speaker 3: Damn editor, I have to say. Shortly before this book

538
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 3: went to press, we were stunned and profoundly demoralized by

539
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: the newsbook that had been seized certain I don't know

540
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: what anyway, and then you got quotes from other books.

541
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Speaker 3: It's I was like the quote from other books, I

542
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Speaker 3: don't know.

543
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: Okay, setting a tone, Oh.

544
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Speaker 3: I see, who is this one from George Barker, Sacred

545
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: Elegy five, nineteen forty three. Fiend, Behind the Fiend, Behind

546
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 3: the Fiend, Behind the Fiend, all right. I also kind

547
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 3: of threw him under the bus here a little bit,

548
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: I think, really well, because then you read more like

549
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: I think my point was like, when you're in high school,

550
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 3: there's something cool about her, of course, very cool. Then

551
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: you get older and you're like, well, this is no

552
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 3: way to live. There's no way to behave.

553
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: It's a bad life.

554
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 3: You're like doing all these drugs and response shooting, shooting

555
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: stuff and not doing your work.

556
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: No one can count on you, I know, and everybody

557
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: for whatever reason it's working.

558
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're getting rewarded. Ye and bad behavior.

559
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: He should have been jailed. Yeah, he should have been

560
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: in prison. No, I never read Hunter s Thompson, and

561
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: I think then got to a point where it's like, well,

562
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: now it's too late, and I feel like it is

563
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: the sort of thing where like the season need to

564
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: be planted early, so like, yeah, I wonder if he

565
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: would annoy me.

566
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: Now Yeah, I don't know. I mean it's where I think,

567
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: you know, the big ones are, well, they're exciting to read.

568
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: Right, I feel like he's probably it's it's one of

569
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: those like.

570
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: But of its time as well, and a lot of

571
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: it was very contemporary, writing about Nixon or whatever's going

572
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: on in the country at that time. That feels like

573
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 3: he must have been really exciting to read in the

574
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: moment as it's happening.

575
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 2: But I'm sure a lot of those things still apply now.

576
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: They do as well, obviously obviously.

577
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: But interesting. Is there any do you feel like this

578
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: is a good starting point for me to start reading Hunt.

579
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 3: I don't think so. No, I don't think I don't

580
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 3: think so. I mean, this is his stuff from the nineties,

581
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: you know, it's like my first Rolling Stones record is

582
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 3: is about Bridges to Babylon or something.

583
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 2: You don't associate him with the nineties at all. I mean,

584
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: what is he writing about in the nineties, Well, that's.

585
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: When he kind of moved to Colorado and is like

586
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: living off the grid and stuff and hanging out some

587
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: value down. Yeah, you know what, dig dive in. Maybe

588
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: it'll be right up your alley. Start with the introduction.

589
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: No, I'm trying to think of I guess Fear and Loathing.

590
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

591
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: It feels like a god.

592
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: Then fear and Loathing on the campaign trail of nineteen

593
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: seventy two, the McGovern campaign. Look at me, I'm so smart.

594
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to give you opportunities. Are you

595
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: reading anything right now?

596
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: What am I reading right now? I've been doing a

597
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: lot of audiobooks. Does that count? That counts? Right?

598
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: I think that counts.

599
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: The Room to Dream is this biography slash memoir of

600
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: David Lynch. Oh, that's real great. The premise of this

601
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: book is they of every chapter. You know, let's say

602
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: they're talking about Twin Peaks. So the chapter on Twin

603
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: Peaks is read by the author of who's writing like

604
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: a biography, you know, right right, he met him and

605
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: this is how that happened and all that stuff. And then

606
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: after that chapter David jumps on, I remember that was

607
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: the first time I worked with so and so, and

608
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: it really was something else, and we didn't get all

609
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: of it the first day, but I dropped my impression,

610
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: but I was there for a second. And then it's

611
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: it's his perspective on that period.

612
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: Is there any like him correcting the record or anything?

613
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 3: No, no, no, But it does have that feeling of

614
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: not something he's reading. It feels like he's just on

615
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: the mic. Yeah, totally.

616
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: It's such an entertaining person to just hear talk.

617
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: The other one that was like that that I recently

618
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: had as read was al Pacino's.

619
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Speaker 2: Memoir Oh does he read the whole thing?

620
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: Yes, And it's the bad And it does feel like

621
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: he's either reading it for the first time and finding

622
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: out about it for the first time, or he's remembering

623
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: and kind of he keeps talking about losing and then

624
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: I lost all my money, I ran the money. What

625
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: are you gonna do? And I had to do an

626
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: Adam Samla movie. But it's great. He's like I loved

627
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: him so much more than I already loved him after

628
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: reading that.

629
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Speaker 2: He's an incredible person.

630
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: He really is. And what's funny is like there's this

631
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: perception of him as like this tough guy, you know,

632
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: scar faced godfather, and he's like a wacky art guy,

633
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: you know, interesting, real, wacky, real, you know, he's a

634
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: New York theater actor guy who's not tough at all.

635
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: But anyways, it's a very very good memoir, maybe the best.

636
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: One of the best actor memoirs I've ever.

637
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: Read, was there any like shocking fact you learned or

638
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: anything interesting.

639
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: I don't remember you think.

640
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean, this is it's a gun beare question for

641
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: me to ask.

642
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: I mean, there's the funny ship was like towards the

643
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: end where he's like he's got all these kids, and

644
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: he's got all these ex wives and and and he's

645
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: like spending money like a madman. But just because I

646
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: know he's talking, he told one story about like flying

647
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: to London private on a private jet and staying at

648
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: taking a whole floor of some hotel, and and and

649
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: then he has like all these cell phones that he's

650
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: paying for and all the and then like meanwhile, his

651
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: his like age is a business manager has been like

652
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: ripping him off for ten years and he's finding out

653
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: about that. And he's like, I don't have any money.

654
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do. But then I get

655
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: another job and the money comes in. But he's like,

656
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: you really, He's like sometimes these old guys like their

657
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: expenses are through the rule because living like kings in

658
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: the seventies.

659
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: And eighties, family members who are used to a certain life,

660
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: see who are probably creating new expenses all the time. Wow, Yeah,

661
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: I kind of getting to that age and still worrying

662
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: about like, oh my god, I'm out of money I've got.

663
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: I can't imagine it. Yeah, I know, I can't believe

664
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: I might personally have like worked myself into this life

665
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: where I'm like, you know, don't think about it. But

666
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: then here I am at almost fifty and being like

667
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: I have two kids, and I'm like, I gotta have to.

668
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: I'm just have to. Like I'm doing well, but there's

669
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: no guarantees.

670
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: No, especially in this horrible business.

671
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that business is changing so dramatically. You know. It's

672
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: occasionally these jobs come in. It's like, oh, that's nice,

673
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 3: that's a lot of money. Wow, Okay, why would they

674
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: pay me that much money? But then you're like, man,

675
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: that might be the last time that ever happens. Then

676
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: what do I fucking do?

677
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: But I think the thing you have going for you

678
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: is you you lead a pretty stable, reasonable lifestyle.

679
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: Yes, it's true, it is true. I don't My expenses

680
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: are fairly reasonable, and I have no boats or anything.

681
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: Right, I don't foresee you making any giant swings. It's

682
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: suddenly like you're just out of control.

683
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: And yes, it's true, I'm very conservative.

684
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: Grambling that way, Wow, al Pacino, I need to read that.

685
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: So you're reading the book, I've already forgotten what book

686
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: you're Oh the data.

687
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't really gone into like novel world in

688
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: a while and feel bad about that.

689
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: I think it's uh, reading nonfiction is easier.

690
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I enjoy you're hearing about real people.

691
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like, I don't know if.

692
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: You're going to make stuff up, I'll watch it as

693
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: a TV show or a movie, or if the book

694
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: is so good they'll make it into a movie.

695
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: I'll wait. Yeah, yeah, I uh, fiction more and more,

696
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: I'm like getting halfway through a novel, like I'm not

697
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: enjoying myself and I'm not learning. Whereas if I'm not

698
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: enjoying a piece of nonfiction, I'm like I can be like, well,

699
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: at least new facts are entering my brain that I

700
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: could eventually share on a podcast or this kind of thing. Yes,

701
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: a dinner conversation, conversation, that's my entire life now. I

702
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: was just trying to think of new things that I

703
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: can share with friends.

704
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: What else could I They don't want to hear about.

705
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: The absolutely want nothing to do with and then they'll

706
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: kind of say the same things back to me and

707
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 2: we'll go home.

708
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

709
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: I'm reading about Facebook right now.

710
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 3: Oh and uh oh is there a new book.

711
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 2: That it might be new? It's called Careless People?

712
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: Mmm, like from an insider's perspective.

713
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 2: Yes, this woman who was like in charge of pushing

714
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: it into new countries or she she kind of looked

715
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: at it as like, we're going to this is going

716
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: to be a worldwide thing we need to be responsible for.

717
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: And I was trying to convince everyone at Facebook that that.

718
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: Mattered, right, and they said, they said.

719
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: Not really, as long as we're growing our numbers, it

720
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter how our behavior is. I haven't really

721
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: learned I mean, everything you would possibly assume about Facebook, yes.

722
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: Or whatever that is, like, oh yeah.

723
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: But it is fun to have a little stories about

724
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg being a loser. Sure, well, I've got this book.

725
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: Is there anything else we need to say about Hunter S. Thompson?

726
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.

727
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: Do you do any prose writing outside of intros to.

728
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: Well? I mean I write a lot of the stuff

729
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: I do.

730
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: Sure.

731
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: I put out a tour diary book last year through

732
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: McSweeney's that was exciting. Yeah, So yeah, I did that

733
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: every day on tour and that it was. It worked

734
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: well enough that I sent it to Dave Eggers and

735
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: they put it in their one of their issues as

736
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: like a book that you can read, Oh lovely and

737
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: every on my Patreon for office hours. Every Saturday, I

738
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: write a blog. I oh, that's nice, and I really

739
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: like it. I really enjoy writing. Some more things in

740
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 3: the works maybe that are not official, but you know.

741
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: What are you blogging about?

742
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 3: Oh, you know, whatever's in my head, whatever, my trip

743
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: to the dentist last week. Politics, things i'm worried about,

744
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 3: if something funny happened in my life that deserves some attention, right, Yeah.

745
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: And also like, oh, here's this thing I'm working on,

746
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: and here's a little bit about why I do it,

747
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 3: or you know, just a little self introspection or whatever.

748
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: No, I think that's nice almost journaling, Yeah it is.

749
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: It is a bit thing I.

750
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: Miss blogging, you know, in the late oughts, the blogging

751
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: of all of that.

752
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's I mean, it feels like it's

753
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: coming back because everyone's doing substats and I don't really

754
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: I follow like a couple of people, but uh, I don't.

755
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to go there. Because it's one of

756
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 3: the value benefits of the patriots.

757
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 2: Of course one of my yes got to have some

758
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: sort of things.

759
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, of course it costs me nothing but time,

760
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: which is valuable. But I like doing it. I get

761
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: up on Saturday, but it's always Saturday morning, and I

762
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: get up and before everyone's up, I have some coffee

763
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: and I sit there and I try to put something.

764
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: You give yourself a time limit or not really.

765
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 3: No, it usually, I mean I usually eventually have other

766
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: things to do, so I try to wrap it up.

767
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sub sex for me, I feel like I'm ambitious

768
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: about reading them. I subscribe to them constantly, and then

769
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: it just becomes this annoying thing in my email. Then

770
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: I start feeling guilty and I don't want to unsubscribe,

771
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: and I guess that just reflects poorly on me. Yeah,

772
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: I should be reading more, but or being more selective

773
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 2: about who I'm Well.

774
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: Did they do a thing on there where you can

775
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: it like collects them all into like a digest or

776
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: something a smart thing.

777
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: Like an app or something that does that.

778
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're just like more. It's more of like

779
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: a magazine experience, right, reading a bunch of emails that

780
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: we don't want to read a bunch of emails.

781
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: Getting a long emails and unpleasant things.

782
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: I just got one this morning about my h this

783
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: commercial I'm doing show. I'll show you just the email length.

784
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: No way, no way, that's probably two printed pages.

785
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: There's a lot of numbers in here. Times.

786
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: I have to imagine that could be boiled down to

787
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: like four bulleted points. That person is wasting their time.

788
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a brain dump. It's like you write that

789
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 3: separately and then then you'll answer your own.

790
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: Questions to figure out what you actually have to convey.

791
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: That's a bad email, right or that's like almost an

792
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: old fashioned type of email.

793
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's like a couple of questions question marks

794
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: at the end. Too many question marks at the end. Okay,

795
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 3: calm down, reset?

796
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: Have you responded to it yet? No? See that sort

797
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: of thing. That would I would hit snooze on that

798
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: probably four times before I got back to it.

799
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: Do you want to hear a funny text exchange my

800
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: mom and me and my wife. Maybe you need a

801
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: little more context of who we're dealing with here, But

802
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: let's just pretend we all have moms.

803
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: We've all they all have a certain texting style.

804
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this was there. She's coming. She's in Palm Springs,

805
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: so it's it's she comes to visit us quite a bit.

806
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: I met your mom's yes, of course in Palm Springs.

807
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: So she's coming for the weekend. And she texts my

808
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: wife and I yesterday, Okay, we'll come. This is this

809
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 3: okay comes out of nowhere.

810
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like.

811
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 3: It's a news thread, a new thread.

812
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: Okay is a response to yeah.

813
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, we'll come sat. We'll just say we'll

814
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: come Saturday unless you need me Friday for some reason.

815
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: Exclamation point, question mark heart. My wife says, sounds great,

816
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: thumbs up. My mom says, sorry, did you mean coming

817
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 3: question mark Saturday? Question mark comes great? Or Friday sounds great? No,

818
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: So she then clarifies, Oops, was in card doing verbal

819
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: and didn't understand my accent accent because I understand my accent.

820
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 3: I'll come Sat unless here different my wife. My wife,

821
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: very patient, says, but this is a little little attitude here.

822
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, she's getting hurt.

823
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: You said will come Saturday. I said, sounds great. Clown face.

824
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: Calling your mama clown.

825
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: Clown. Yes, I realized, she says, yes, I realized that

826
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: when I reread it. Sorry about that, but I'll see

827
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: you Saturday. Can't we see you? But it was like,

828
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: will come Saturday unless you need me Friday for some reason.

829
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 3: Sounds great. Your reaction to that would be see you Saturday.

830
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: Of course, it's a very I mean, it's just a

831
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 2: clear there's not that many options there.

832
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, anyways, I was just watching all that.

833
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 3: I didn't get involved.

834
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: I did not Oh you were, but you're you were

835
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: on the text.

836
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: On the time said no no chiming in.

837
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: If I open a text thread and there's like more

838
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: than three things going, I just wait for it to

839
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: similar back down. I'm like, I'm not going to answer

840
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 2: everybody's questions here. If two more two or three people

841
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: are communicating, they'll figure it out, and then I could

842
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: say the final thing for sure, heart something. I won't

843
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: do a thumbs up, because then it just seems like

844
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: I was mad the whole time.

845
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 3: People get mad about the thumbs up.

846
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: It's a cold response. I don't know, and it's a

847
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: strange thing that it is, because it's just a neutral thing.

848
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

849
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 3: I guess if you I think we're too over zealous

850
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: with the hearts. Yeah, and I say that those things

851
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: are like conversation enders.

852
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: Oh, completely right. It's like I don't want to say

853
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: any other things to you, even if it's a heart,

854
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, but the thumbs.

855
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: Up got it, it's a got it without being that brusque.

856
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: About it, right.

857
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

858
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: I think if we just moved back to more thumbs

859
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: up on everything, less hearts, then the heart would mean more.

860
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 3: You know what drives me? That's in a in a sorry.

861
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: I keep going on that.

862
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, if you're in a group thread and somebody

863
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: goes and if let's say it's a happy birthday, sure,

864
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 3: happy birthday scenario. The person that goes back and then

865
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: likes the all the various bing bing bing, you're getting

866
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: all these alerts that this person is going back and

867
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: liking things.

868
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: Sam, Yeah, that's so unfair to every fo.

869
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 3: We assume that you liked or I mean we maybe

870
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: we don't. Maybe we we should assume it. It doesn't

871
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: matter to you that other people said happy birthday in

872
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 3: this thread.

873
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: I think it's almost it's not about you. They don't care,

874
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: and so they're just like checking boxes here. Oh a

875
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: little check is a decent one. They should add my.

876
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: Friend who's who's also my tour manager when we tour,

877
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: a longtime great friend. His go to reply is the

878
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: check mark emoji, like when things are like clear, final, right,

879
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 3: che market.

880
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: That's way better than the thumbs up, because I do

881
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: think a thumbs up in real life is almost always sarcastic.

882
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 2: I mean rarely do you do that great? Well yeah, yeah,

883
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: but the check people love to see a check Yeah.

884
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: There we go, all right, self issue, And your mom's

885
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: coming Saturday.

886
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: We'll see she might, she might. It's Friday now she

887
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: might be there. Oh, I thought you said, And I

888
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: want to say to her, this is where I want

889
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: to come from. Come whenever you want. Yeah, Like she

890
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: we have a little guest house that she has full

891
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: access to. Yes, she can come and go as she pleases.

892
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: We love to have her, of course, and she's welcome anytime.

893
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 3: We We don't when we were when the kids were younger,

894
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: there was more of that feeling of like can you

895
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: come and.

896
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: Right we need your help right now, we need your help.

897
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 3: Now we're kind of like the kids are, they're older

898
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: and they can kind of like do their own thing.

899
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: We still have to, you know, we we still have

900
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: to pick them up and do that stuff. But we

901
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: have lots of where so that maybe is feeling a

902
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 3: little there's a little transition there where it's like, you know,

903
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 3: we were it's not so much about the childcare, but

904
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: if you're if you want to come early, come down.

905
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't imagine she's going to be that much,

906
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: you know, a trouble.

907
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: No, it's not trouble.

908
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: No. I think that's that lines up with my mom's behavior,

909
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 2: where you almost have to beg her to do things

910
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: that are fine.

911
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, she thinks being doing.

912
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: Normal behavior is overstepping her boundaries. Right, No, that's fine.

913
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: And the fact that we've had to ask you, now

914
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 2: that's trouble exactly.

915
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 3: It's like, did you want me to empty the dishwasher?

916
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't, like, do you want to? If

917
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: you want to have to a dishwasher? Like that would

918
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: be great helpful, sure, but don't ask me if like

919
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: would I I rather do it? No? Like you know

920
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, now we're talking about emptying the dishwasher.

921
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: What about me makes you think I would be mad

922
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: that you emptied the dishwasher?

923
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 4: Right?

924
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: Exactly? Yeah, sweet sweet people absolutely.

925
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: Lovely let me always are the best.

926
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: Intentions, best intentions. I want to I'm curious about your

927
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: policy on locked doors at your house because my boyfriend.

928
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: Is this is pretty now okay, I mean, I can't

929
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: imagine your audience is full of bunch of burglars and

930
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: MS thirteen gang members.

931
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: We have a very gang heavy audience. Yeah. Uh, my

932
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: boyfriend is very like, even when we're at home, every

933
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: door needs to be locked at all times.

934
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not. I'm not that way. My

935
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: wife is more that way. I just can't imagine a scenario,

936
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: but it would certainly happen. I also remember my so

937
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: my dad had They had a body shop, like a

938
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: tow truck company and that kind of thing in Pennsylvania, right,

939
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: And so they had this lot that was not fenced

940
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: or anything, and it was but it was where the

941
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: cars would be parked, be waiting to get service done

942
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: or waiting to get body shop work done or something, right,

943
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 3: and they would get occasionally broken into. Sure, and his

944
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: line was always like, it's cheaper for it would be

945
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense, we will never do it, but

946
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: it truly would be cheaper just to have the doors

947
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: open and and the windows rolled down right, because they're

948
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: going to get in there, yes, and they just have

949
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: to Now we have to play for the broken window

950
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: to right right.

951
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my thing where I'm like, if we ever

952
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: get in such an extreme scenario that someone who's entered

953
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: the house while we're here, they're going to do it

954
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: either way. Yeah, yeah, they have bad intentions, let them

955
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: in right. At least it'll be smoother, it be less scary, right.

956
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know where I guess there's

957
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 2: just maybe I'm too care free.

958
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit of both, a little

959
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: I think it's you know, it's sure lock lock them

960
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: up at night.

961
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, lock it up at night, I hope.

962
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we lock it up at night. Believe me, folks,

963
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 3: we will. We lock it up at night. You're not

964
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 3: getting into our house at night.

965
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: Do you have alarms?

966
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: Yes, we do have an alarm. We have an alarm

967
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: that I'm asking all these questions.

968
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: Also, just say your address on the podcast.

969
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 3: We have alarms that I don't I'm not fastidious about. Okay.

970
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: See that's how I am sure.

971
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: And then you got to go in there and turn

972
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: it off.

973
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: Right, And I'm always worried that I'll forget and then

974
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:25,959
Speaker 2: set it off.

975
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: And we've had the cops come a couple of times.

976
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, I'll tell you a story about the

977
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: cops coming.

978
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: I would love to hear it.

979
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: Now. You said earlier in that everybody loves me, right, yes,

980
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: everybody else. It's not true because I have created many

981
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: enemies on the far right. Oh sure, right, another part

982
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: of your listenership. Right. So, a few years ago I

983
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: went to war with this guy named Baked No, what's

984
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 3: his name, Baked Potato or something. It was one of

985
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: these I don't know, it's one of these YouTuber right

986
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 3: wing lunatics who went to the capitol at you were.

987
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: Six gutter scum, yeah.

988
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: Bad guy. And he would go around and he would

989
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 3: film live streamers. Oh yeah. And you would go into

990
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 3: like seven elevens and like accost people and harassed people,

991
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: and people would like send him money over the like

992
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: it was like a game they were playing. It's really

993
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: kind of fascinating but also the most disgusting thing. And

994
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: I called him out, and I was calling I was like,

995
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 3: YouTube should not YouTubers. I was like, why why am

996
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 3: I using YouTube?

997
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 2: Right?

998
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 3: Right?

999
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: Like?

1000
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 3: I love YouTube, yes, but they're also airing this like

1001
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: this nazi walking around like abusing people. Yeah so but

1002
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 3: of course that makes me come out like scold and

1003
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: all this. Anyways, I like riled up his crowd. They

1004
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: started coming after me. They were live streaming, like went

1005
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: to my old office and they're like going and so

1006
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: I was like really on edge. And the day that

1007
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: they went to my office, we were at home. It

1008
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: was Sunday, and I was watching this guy like which

1009
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: our office is like three miles away, and she was

1010
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: like live streaming out there like throwing. It was not

1011
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: it wasn't. He was an idiot and he wasn't like

1012
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: but it was like, oh god, this guy's like called

1013
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 3: the cops. I get this guy out of here right right.

1014
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 3: The office was closed. It was a Sunday, And about

1015
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: ten maybe like a half hour later, I get a

1016
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: bang bang bang on the door.

1017
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1018
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: Before that, I asked my wife to make sure that

1019
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 3: our alarm was on sure right, so she I don't

1020
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: hear anything. I said, can you make sure that the

1021
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: alar like that this works because there's this guy like

1022
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 3: three miles away. I get a bang bang bang on

1023
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: the door. My kids are there. My mom is there.

1024
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 3: It's Sunday, she's there. I look out the window. We

1025
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: have a little peephole thing. I'm trying to think. I'm

1026
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: trying to get this.

1027
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 2: Order correct for our baked potato listener.

1028
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, bang, bang bang. I say, get the fuck away

1029
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: from the door. Oh, get the fuck away, and they

1030
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: go it's the police. It's cop. And I'm screaming at them,

1031
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: and they're about to break through the.

1032
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: Door because I sus scenario.

1033
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like a swatting thing. Yet there, you know,

1034
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: they're treating me like I'm barricading my family in the

1035
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: house of the shotgun. They don't know. And what happened

1036
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 3: was and eventually, like they show their badge, they open

1037
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: the fucking door, like you know, I don't know. I'm

1038
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 3: out of my mind, of course, and I opened the door.

1039
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: They sit me down. I don't. They don't handcuff, they

1040
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: sit me down. They have to clear they have to

1041
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: go in the house, make sure that nothing that there's

1042
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: that they like, they get everybody out of the house.

1043
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 3: They have to search the house. Helicopters are above. And

1044
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 3: what happened was my wife pressed the panic button this

1045
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 3: little fob and then her phone was dead. When they

1046
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: tried to call, which they do. They call, say is

1047
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: this an emergency? No one answers, and the protocols began.

1048
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

1049
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 3: And the cops come and they just assumed the worst,

1050
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: that terribles happened. But three other cop cars come and

1051
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 3: then within about I would say thirty seconds, the cops

1052
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: started to understand what was going on, and I was,

1053
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 3: you know, under they explained it. But it could have

1054
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 3: gone could have.

1055
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 2: Been oh so so badly.

1056
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 3: But it did stem from this, like true, you know,

1057
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: fear of the lunatics out there right totally. I have

1058
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: to be a little careful about, like, yeah, keeping keeping

1059
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: the family.

1060
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 2: Safe, of course. And let me ask you this about that.

1061
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: Do they is there like a fine, do they charge

1062
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: you anything?

1063
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: They did not. I think that was I'm pretty sure

1064
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 3: that didn't happen. I think it might have been. There

1065
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: was a warning, don't do this, keep your phone charged. Yeah.

1066
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: Did you follow that story about the Weezer basis.

1067
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. I don't know if we know

1068
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 3: everything about that story, do we?

1069
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. All I know is there was a

1070
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: high speed chase. Yeah, and there's footage of the one

1071
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: of the suspects in someone's backyard. I don't know if

1072
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: you saw this, like trying to disguise himself as the

1073
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: person living there, and he's hosing down the garden like

1074
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 2: he's gardening.

1075
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: Oh that's smart and incredible idea. Yeah.

1076
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: And then apparently she came out of the house and

1077
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: was holding a gun.

1078
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: Because why, that's what That's the big question.

1079
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: I guess you thought that there was something wrong that

1080
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: she had to defend herself from. And uh and then

1081
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: gets shot and then.

1082
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 3: Drop the gun.

1083
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: And she wouldn't drop the gun.

1084
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you drop the gun?

1085
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 2: Great question?

1086
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: Bad morning, bad morning? Maybe was it in the morning?

1087
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: I think so? Okay, I mean I get I'm just

1088
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: saying this because when I found out it was the

1089
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 2: morning shows a lack of imagination would be in the

1090
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: middle of the night.

1091
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: But I don't know the.

1092
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 2: Footage of the guy hosing down there is daytime unless

1093
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: this was like a twenty four hours.

1094
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: Nothing to do with whatever Chase was going on. She's wrong.

1095
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: But this woman has led kind of an interesting life

1096
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: because I texted a friend and he said, oh, she

1097
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: was on my storytelling show in twenty eleven. Oh, she

1098
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: was in a harem. So she's got a whole life.

1099
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: She's got a very rich life, this woman, and now

1100
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 2: she's been shot and is now.

1101
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 3: I wonder I'm trying to think of like the bass

1102
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: player for Weezer. He probably makes a pretty good living, sure,

1103
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 3: but not probably maybe not as good as you. Right,

1104
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 3: she's like not a he's like a hired gun.

1105
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not the song right right, he's not getting

1106
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: could be replaced at any moment.

1107
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: Yes, so he probably makes a nice away like a

1108
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 3: weekly like a salary right when they're on the road.

1109
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, how does that work for when you're a you

1110
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: are a member of the band, you're on in all

1111
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: the press photos. Yeah, you must be contractually something.

1112
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think you're more. I don't know. It's

1113
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: different for every band from what I could tell, but

1114
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: there are band like I remember I heard the Rolling Stones,

1115
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 3: Like the only actual owners in like is Mick and Keith.

1116
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

1117
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: But if you were the drummer and the bass player

1118
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 3: Bill Wyman or Charlie Watts ron Wood, you're you're just

1119
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 3: on your being paid a salary to be in the Stones.

1120
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you don't really think about that. You

1121
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: just think everybody's part of the team.

1122
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the money gets thrown into the pot in

1123
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: the middle of the table.

1124
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: Dive on split it up. Yeah. All I know is

1125
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 2: that the bass player played Coachella the next day.

1126
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: So it couldn't be that bad. Couldn't be that Do

1127
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: they have kids? That's what I want to know.

1128
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: I think there was a babysitter outside while this is happening,

1129
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: maybe from another house. I don't know. Again, I should

1130
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: have done a little more research before talking about it publicly. Yeah,

1131
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: but these are the things that I kind of wah.

1132
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 3: Gap between what we're doing now and when this comes out.

1133
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: Do you guys try to keep it tight?

1134
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 2: That's a great question. Oh wait, Tentative released June thirty.

1135
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 2: That can't possibly be true.

1136
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 3: It's going to age like old milk.

1137
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: There's no that's wrong.

1138
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 3: Okay, that's wrong. Okay, Well they deleted the whole sentence

1139
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: that he's got a monitor here, and they deleted the

1140
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 3: whole sentence.

1141
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 2: They're shutting down the podcast as we speak. The episode

1142
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 2: will never be I imagine it's may ish good oh Ano,

1143
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: they're typing goodbye. So now now I think too much

1144
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 2: bomb enough is enough? I think two weeks from it'll

1145
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: still this will be definitely old Jews. Well, we will

1146
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: have all the facts of the case. Hopefully she'll be

1147
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: out on bail and maybe she can come to the podcast. Yes,

1148
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 2: missus uh shriner reach out.

1149
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 3: You know that? So you know? Now you know who's

1150
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 3: the bass player for Weezer.

1151
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: Well, this is the problem to him. Have a very

1152
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: complicated past with Weezer. You do growing up listening to Weezer,

1153
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 2: and then I was a real fan through high school. Yeah,

1154
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: and now just know everything about them forever, right, And

1155
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: so this guy was hired. Maybe he's like to.

1156
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 3: Tell you what I was a big fan of Weezer.

1157
00:55:59,040 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: Did you grow up listening to.

1158
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't grow up listening to him. I was

1159
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 3: in college. Oh yeah, little older. So but I love

1160
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 3: that Blue album. That first album is so it's poor,

1161
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 3: so elemental. And on tour the last second to last

1162
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 3: night of tour, we didn't do this a lot, but

1163
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 3: everyone's in a while. We do like music. We'd play

1164
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: music in the on the bus after the show and

1165
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: we'd all sit around listen to music. And second to

1166
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 3: last night it was like we're listening to the whole

1167
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 3: Blue album and we everybody. Eight of us we sat

1168
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 3: there blasted it like we're at the concert and like

1169
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 3: sang through the whole record. Everybody knew it, everyone loved it,

1170
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 3: and we're like, there's just not a bad song on it.

1171
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: It's like a perfect.

1172
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's one of those rare things just beginning

1173
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: to end.

1174
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but so I but then, you know, if they

1175
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 3: as as the kids say, they fell off.

1176
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: I think their first two albums are perfect, and then

1177
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: you know, you can't, you can't be great.

1178
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 3: The Green Album's good, The Green Album's fine.

1179
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun enough to listen, and they've they've written

1180
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 2: plenty of fun songs since. But you know, yeah, most musicians,

1181
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 2: the road gets bumpy eventually. Sure, Okay, I think we

1182
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 2: should play a game. We're going to play a game

1183
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 2: called Gift or a Curse. But I need a number

1184
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: between one and ten from you.

1185
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 3: Oh, easily eight eight.

1186
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: I love that number. I have to do some light

1187
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 2: calculating to get our game pieces. Right now. You can promote, recommend,

1188
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

1189
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: You can go check out my music on your streaming services.

1190
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: You can watch Office Hours live on YouTube, or go

1191
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: to Patreon dot com slash Office hours live on Cinema

1192
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 3: is the thing I hold deepest to my heart at

1193
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: the moment as far as my creative output. You could

1194
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 3: find that on our self funded subscription based streaming service

1195
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: High Network, h EI Network, Dot TV and Go Dodgers.

1196
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 3: I know they're They've got all the best players their

1197
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: the payroll is extremely high. But it's an important team

1198
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: in the history baseball. We should support them. Even if

1199
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: you're not a fan. We have to support them.

1200
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: Get behind the boys.

1201
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: They are the boys in blue in our city. If

1202
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: a Los Angeles suffered tremendous tragedy this year with the fires.

1203
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: The least you could do is support our Please.

1204
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: Support the Dodgers. Chavez Ravine, Thank.

1205
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: You, listener. I already told you about Patreon, et cetera,

1206
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: et cetera. Chicago, don't forget, don't let us down. Okay, Tim,

1207
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: this is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm

1208
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: going to name three things. You'll tell me if there

1209
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: are a gift or a curse and why, and then

1210
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, because there

1211
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: are correct answers. You can lose the game, you can

1212
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: win the game. You can do fine. This first one

1213
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: is from one of our Patreon listeners, Randall Gift or

1214
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: a curse Life on Earth?

1215
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: It's a gift. Why I love it? I love living.

1216
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 3: I know I love living because I've been in situations

1217
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: where I thought I might die and I it was

1218
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 3: very upsetting to me. And the older I get, the

1219
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 3: more I am so disappointed that it comes to an end. Right,

1220
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: you know that it will come to an end, And

1221
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 3: it's a terrible deal actually to think that you will

1222
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 3: eventually not be around. So with that in mind, it's

1223
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 3: not always easy, and sometimes it's hard and not always pleasant.

1224
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 3: And I wish I didn't have to eat every day.

1225
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 3: I wish I didn't have to go to the bathroom

1226
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 3: all every twenty minutes.

1227
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: We've had to stop down the podcast ten times.

1228
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: I haven't gone. I mean I have to go, but

1229
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 3: I haven't stopped. At the end of the day, it

1230
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 3: all shakes out to being a gift, correct, thank you?

1231
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: I mean, of course, And I think this is right.

1232
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: With everything going on, it might be the obvious answer

1233
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: might be cursed.

1234
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm very blessed and lucky. I mean, I'm sure

1235
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 3: there are people out there who feel like it's a curse.

1236
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 3: But I'm happy to not be one of those people.

1237
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 2: Right, I think ultimately there's a gift to be completely

1238
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: sincere and honest about this one. How could you not

1239
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: say unless? Yeah, I'm sure if people we're all having

1240
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: are relatively difficult times with whatever situation, but it's a gift, Randall,

1241
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: How dare you even put this on the list? Forget it? Okay,

1242
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 2: so you've gotten one correct so far.

1243
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 3: Let's gonna be the easy one.

1244
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: That's an easy oneye. This next one is from a

1245
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: listener named Emily. Gift or a curse going to bed

1246
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: with wet hair?

1247
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 3: Well, it's neither, but uh, for the if we're gonna,

1248
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 3: if we're gonna binary this, for me, it would be

1249
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 3: a curse. I don't like that feeling. Yeah, I don't generally.

1250
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 3: I generally shower in the morning, so it's not really

1251
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 3: an issue.

1252
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: Right.

1253
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 3: If I was going to shower at night, I would

1254
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 3: dry my hair best as possible. I don't want to

1255
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 3: sleep on a wet pillow, obviously, right.

1256
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: Wrong curse, I mean I said curse. What you said curse?

1257
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1258
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm actually I was gonna say wrong gift. I

1259
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: was so excited to tell you you're wrong. Unfortunately, I'm

1260
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 2: on record on this podcast is saying taking a shower

1261
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 2: at night is a gift, and so I find I

1262
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: feel like I kind of have to go. This lines

1263
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: up with that. It means you got to take a

1264
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: shower at night, which is lovely.

1265
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 3: Your such work for me that at the end of

1266
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 3: the day or the end of the you know, at

1267
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 3: the end of the night, I'm already in bed, I

1268
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: lie down in bed, I start watching things, listening to things,

1269
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 3: and the idea of getting up and showering, it's like,

1270
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 3: that's how I start my life, sorry, start my day.

1271
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 3: My wife takes showers at night.

1272
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: Though, so it can be I don't shower at night

1273
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: every night, but it's like a little treat. It feels

1274
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: nice on occasion because there's no utility to it, you know,

1275
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: it's just I'm doing this just because to relax. Whereas

1276
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: in the morning, you know, I'm well, I still have

1277
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 2: endless time during the day, but I have to get

1278
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: things started. I have to actually be clean and go

1279
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: out into the world, whereas at night I can get

1280
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: my hair wet and lie down on a pillow and

1281
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: start the mildew growing.

1282
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 3: You have very short hair, fairly short hair being an issue,

1283
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 3: and yours is really long. Yeah, it's a lot of hair.

1284
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see why someone might have a problem

1285
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: going to bed with soaking, wet hair, but I don't.

1286
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 2: I think it's a gift. Finally, this is from a

1287
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 2: listener named joe Anne. Gift or a curse using a

1288
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: kitchen knife to open a box.

1289
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 3: Well, I'll see it's I'll just have again. It's right

1290
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: down the middle. It's not ideal, it's not the end

1291
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 3: of the world. It's probably what I do half the time,

1292
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 3: Like a steak knife.

1293
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, like i'msuring not a bread knife.

1294
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 3: Yay, do it you throw it in the sink, throw

1295
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: in the dishwasher if you really, you know, why not?

1296
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 3: Just it's probably fine. So I'd say it's a gift

1297
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 3: because it's convenient. You're not searching around for like one

1298
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 3: of those you know, work not utility knives or something.

1299
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 3: Is that a exact o, exact exactly, thank.

1300
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: You, correct gift? What else? What else is anybody using

1301
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: to open up box? This is the only knife I ever,

1302
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 2: This is the only knife I own.

1303
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, day to day knives. You can take a scissor

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Speaker 3: and open it up and right.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind the scissor. Yeah, but even then that

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01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: is a trip to the junk drawer, and my knives

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01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: are just there on the counter, and there's kind of

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Speaker 2: a danger, kind of a thrill. I don't see anything

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01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 2: wrong with it. I think, yeah, mild thrill, but you

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01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: have to look for mild thrills. Well, you got two

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01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: out of three great, not absolutely horrible.

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Speaker 3: No, that's pretty good, decent.

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01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: Well, I think we should answer a listener question people

1314
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 2: are sending in the voice notes the emails to I said,

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Speaker 2: no gives at gmail dot com. Could we play one

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Speaker 2: of those.

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Speaker 4: H'm bridger and scurrilous, guest. I think that's a word.

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01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 4: I am calling in because I have a query for you.

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01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 4: I still have my ex husband's last name, but I

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01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 4: would like to change it before I have a baby,

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01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 4: and I don't know what to change it to. My

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01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 4: maiden name doesn't quite feel right anymore, and I need

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01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 4: some suggestions for what my new last name should be.

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01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 4: Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.

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01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 3: Starting to get why this marriage didn't work out.

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01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: This person needs a new last name and they've turned to.

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01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 3: Us well, and also, what's wrong with the originally to

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01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 3: go back to your original last name.

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01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 2: I guess she's a new person. I just found a

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Speaker 2: new chapter.

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01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 3: Well, here's the things. These these are the unknown unknowns.

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Speaker 3: We don't know her first name, do we?

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01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 2: No? Not? She didn't mention it.

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Speaker 3: So what are we doing? What are we working? We're

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01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 3: working with We're in the docuum, We're we're working in

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Speaker 3: the dark.

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01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: What would you change your last name too?

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01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't change my last name. I'm not I don't

1339
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 3: care about I don't you don't. I don't have any tattoos,

1340
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 3: I don't any piercings. I don't care about any of that.

1341
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 3: I don't care about my identity. You want to call

1342
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 3: me a woman, I don't care. Years ago, I happen

1343
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 3: to be a man who gives a ship.

1344
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 2: Ibout forty years ago, you and I would have both

1345
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: had to change our last names for show business.

1346
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, Tim Heidecker, I never loved that name.

1347
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: Hard name to pronounce.

1348
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 3: Or Yeah, your name's a burden, it's a mess. Uh yeah,

1349
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 3: tim uh tim uh. Miller, that's a nice name.

1350
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 2: It's a safe guy. Tim Jones Miller Jones are both

1351
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: nice last names that this person could take on.

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01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 3: That my Miller is my mother's my grandmother's maiden name.

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01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: Yes, oh that's a nice name. Why not?

1354
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 3: I mean this there is a Tim Miller is like

1355
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 3: a political he's like as a political guy.

1356
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 2: Good or bad.

1357
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 3: He's good. He was like a Republican who's gone anti Trump.

1358
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: Good for him?

1359
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 3: Who's gay?

1360
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 2: Wow?

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01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 3: Gay? It's like when my dad would say, like, he's

1362
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 3: this guy is actually gay. But he's like, but it's

1363
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 3: not bad. He's not bad.

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01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 2: He's nice enough.

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01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 3: He's a really nice guy.

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01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to hang out with him. Uh, Miller Mill,

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01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: Tim Miller. That's a nice last name. Obviously, wine girl

1368
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: or hide is a name she could take on.

1369
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 3: Again, not knowing the first name is criminal.

1370
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: It's a huge mister.

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01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 3: Can we find out? Did this? Is there an email?

1372
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: Actually I can?

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01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 3: I just see here.

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01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: I forwarded the email earlier.

1375
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: Because if you had a first name, we could work

1376
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 3: with that I could play around with.

1377
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: My idea is Sarah Jane. That's the name, Sarah Jane,

1378
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: Sarah Jane, Sarah Jane Carter, Sarah Jane Carter. That's a

1379
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 2: nice that seems almost a little house.

1380
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 3: Yes, ingles, we could do Sarah j Ingles.

1381
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 2: That's great.

1382
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 3: You don't want to do who's the the the oh

1383
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: Nelly Olsen? Yeah, Sarah Jane Olsen.

1384
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you don't want to be part of the

1385
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 2: Olsen family.

1386
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 3: I think Sarah Jane Potter, Sarah Jane Carter, Sarah Jane Miller, Cruise,

1387
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 3: Sarah Jane Cruse. I don't like that.

1388
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: Cruise is a made up last name, isn't it Tom Cruise?

1389
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: That's real last name.

1390
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 3: I think it is his real name, but I don't

1391
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 3: really know.

1392
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 2: No, I think he has like kind of a strange,

1393
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 2: like a last name that's hard.

1394
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 3: To spell or oh really, I don't know.

1395
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: Now I'm going to look it up because now I'm embarrassed.

1396
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: Let's see Tom Tom Cruise.

1397
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 3: There should be a rule, a law that podcasts aren't

1398
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 3: allowed to look things up.

1399
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: Everything just has to be kind of sent out into

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01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: the public.

1401
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 3: Check.

1402
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 2: His middle name is Cruse. His last name is my

1403
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: pother Mapither.

1404
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that is a mess and he's the fourth. Wow.

1405
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 2: Well then Sarah Jane Cruise, Mypather the fourth. There we go.

1406
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 3: See.

1407
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 2: How would you pronounce m A p O t h

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01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: e R MAPI my pother? Yeah, I can see why

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01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 2: he got rid of that. Ah, Sarah Jane, We've given

1410
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: you several options.

1411
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, we've done our due diligence.

1412
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: S Thompson. I'm just looking around the room, Sarah JM.

1413
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 3: Sarah Jane Thompson's nice. It is nice.

1414
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 2: That's a strong name.

1415
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing.

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01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: I'll say. Find a name that people can immediately identify

1417
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: and bell and pronounce. Don't curse yourself with some difficult thing.

1418
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I mean I do a lot of casting

1419
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 3: with this in this commercial. I'm a very the epidemic

1420
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 3: that it's occurring. Forget all the stuff that RFK Junior

1421
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 3: is talking about, the epidemic of names of young people.

1422
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 2: Now, what are you hearing?

1423
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 3: Bryson and uh I can't, I don't. You don't remember

1424
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 3: them because they're they're not they're unfamiliar to you. Well,

1425
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 3: you're raiding.

1426
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 2: You're talking to a bridger, which that's true. To be fair, say.

1427
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 3: These are there's way worse ones, and people know what

1428
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: I'm talking about.

1429
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: I think Utah and uh Utah culture is kind of

1430
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: the ground zero for a lot of these names. Famously,

1431
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 2: there are a lot of creative names coming out of Utah.

1432
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, I.

1433
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: Wish I could remember these names. I saw like a

1434
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 3: hundred of them, Like, this is just such a burden

1435
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 3: for these kids as they get older, they're gonna have

1436
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 3: to get what is that again?

1437
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: Abreno was a nick you nurse and the names that

1438
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 2: she was coming across nick nurse, Yeah.

1439
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 3: Like Neo. Oh god, I thought you said her name

1440
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 3: was is nick nurse?

1441
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: My sister Nick nurse? I never heard that one the

1442
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: name she would provide, there was somebody named Americus. Someone

1443
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: named their daughter Americus, which.

1444
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 3: I don't like it.

1445
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: I don't love to hear.

1446
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 3: And now let me just retract and say every I love.

1447
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 3: I love a big, beautiful, diverse world.

1448
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 2: And of course names are just sounds and stupid. Yeah,

1449
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: they're stupid, made up words. But some are way more

1450
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 2: stupid than others, I would say, in our opinion, in

1451
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 2: my opinion, and they're ultimately Harry, Tom Dick, and Harry

1452
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: what happened to Tom? Sally, Jane, Sue, Mary Show.

1453
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 3: Those are the four names you can choose from. That's it.

1454
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 3: At the at the hospital and a baby you should

1455
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 3: have like eight names to choose from.

1456
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: It's like picking a license plate. Whatever. Well, we answered

1457
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 2: the question perfectly. Sarah Jane, good luck. Don't send another

1458
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 2: thing back in I can't hear back from you. Tim.

1459
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: I have this lovely book to put on my bookshelf.

1460
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 2: Now I'll read at least your intro, yes, and we'll

1461
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: see how I feel about that and see where I

1462
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 2: go from there. And I've had a lovely time with you.

1463
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 3: That was great.

1464
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 2: Thank you, real pleasure. Thank you for having me listener.

1465
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: The podcast is over. You obviously knew this was going

1466
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: to happen. Hopefully you did, otherwise you're really this is

1467
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: coming out of nowhere for you, and I don't know

1468
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 2: what to tell you. Get moving. I love you, goodbye,

1469
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our

1470
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: senior producer is on Alisa Nelson, and our episodes are

1471
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by

1472
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 2: miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without

1473
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 2: our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram,

1474
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 2: and I said, No Gifts, that's where you're going to

1475
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: see pictures of all these one wonderful gifts I'm getting.

1476
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: And don't you want to see the gifts?

1477
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: And I invited you here thought, I made myself perfectly clear.

1478
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come

1479
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no guests, you're our presences.

1480
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: Presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how

1481
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: did you dare to survey me?