WEBVTT - Making Peace With: The 2007 Fiesta Bowl 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:06.880 Welcome to the solid Verbal. I'm that for me. I'm 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.680 a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.639 I want to be happy. You want to be happy 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:13.000 for day Ado State? 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:13.600 Is that? 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.439 Whoo whoo and no, Dan and. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:21.799 Tie, welcome back to the Solid Verbal, Boys and girls. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.360 My name is Ty hilden Brandt, joining me as always 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:30.360 still way way over there and beautiful in sunny in 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.159 southern California. My man, Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you? 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.720 I'm great, Ty, I have set up the claws two 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.839 point zero. 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You can also 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.320 find us out on social media and if you want 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:26.240 to participate in a raging conversation that carries on long 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.080 after the final bell of each and every episode, going 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.360 out to solid verbal dot reddit dot com. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:32.640 Yeah. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.480 Today, today we're going to put a cap on the 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:40.640 two thousand and six college football season. It wasn't the 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.679 National Championship game, but for all intents and purposes, the 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:48.120 two thousand and seven Fiesta Ball on New Year's Day 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.600 was the capstone game for that season. 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:55.120 I think it's all intense, double purposes. Yeah, it's absolutely 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.440 the game people remember about this time in this bowl 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.760 season and this season in general. And we went through 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:03.480 a little bit of two thousand and six, and I 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.120 guess we can get into it momentarily from a college 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.680 football perspective. And you know, I've got my early two 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.800 thousand and seven billboard charts in box office. But yes, 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.839 when you think of this time, sure you can look 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:20.840 fondly back at Percy Harvin and Troyce Smith and what 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.760 maybe perhaps Troyce Smith wasn't able to do against Percy 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.000 Harvin's team in the National Championship. But where USC was, 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:32.120 where LSU was, Michigan, Wisconsin, Rutgers, even Texas BYU Arkansas. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.119 All of these programs had wild seasons, wild games. Your 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:41.320 Notre Dame fighting Irish, not my Oregon Doux. But in 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.800 terms of seminal not just moments, but a series of 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.280 moments we have this has been the game that has 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:51.040 been the most requested to look back upon with twenty 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.760 twenty eyes, and it has been the game we look 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.680 at the Bush push, you know, like, wow, Wow, these 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.320 offenses are a little bit more boring than I remember. 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.959 And you look back at Auburn Oregon and you're like, oh, well, 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.799 the Oregon offense was worse than I remember it, even 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:06.640 though it was a Chip Kelly team. And we look 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.079 back at Miami Ohio State and you're like, well, man, 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.040 I don't know about this Ohio State offense. I can't 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.040 believe they pulled it out with thirty five yards of 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:18.960 scoring yardage on offense. Looking back at the Boise State 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:25.120 Oklahoma game, I remember essentially nothing before those crazy, weird, 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:29.160 wild moments, and it floored me more than perhaps all 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:33.040 of those previous three rewatches combined. I don't know about you, Well, 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:34.480 this game was different. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.840 It was different because of what it symbolized, right, the 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:42.600 other games that we've done Notre Dame USC two blue 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.720 blood programs. Right, Yes, we had Miami, We've had Ohio State, 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.400 We've had Oregon, We've had Auburn. Like these are name 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:54.200 brand programs at this point in time, but Boise State, 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.640 at least back in two thousand and seven still very 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:01.320 much carried with them this aura of the underdog. They 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.880 were in the whack at that point in time. They 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.600 won the whack. So to have the opportunity to play 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.280 up against a traditional power like Oklahoma, that was a 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:15.280 pretty significant event, pretty significant moment in college football, especially 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.200 since there was so much steam at the time. I 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:22.360 remember about Boise State potentially getting a shot at the 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.159 national championship? Are they good enough? Do they deserve to 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.520 be there? This was that game. This was that moment. 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:29.760 So you're right. 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.720 We got a ton of requests from people who wanted 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.520 to go back through this game, who have relived moments 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.080 for us of this game on our social media feeds. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.440 We were certainly due to. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.479 Talk about d two thousand and seven Fiesta Ball again 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:50.479 between the Boise State Broncos and the Oklahoma Sooners. The 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:54.599 game went to overtime, Boise State one forty three to 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.640 forty two, on a statue of liberty play right not 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:01.160 to bury the lead. Going in to the game, Oklahoma 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.200 was a healthy seven and a half point favorite. 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:05.240 M HM. 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.680 Things got weird in the fourth quarter, which we will 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:13.880 get into, including twenty five straight points by Oklahoma to 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.080 take the lead. Their first lead of the game was 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.280 just over a minute left. Both teams ended up scoring 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.960 a combined twenty two points in the final minute and 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:25.799 a half of regulation and then fifteen points in overtime. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.960 And that's all on top of the trick plays, which 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.120 I know we're going to talk extensively about here, but 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.760 let's start here just to provide some context. I'm read 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:40.719 the passers by Dan college football landscape going into this game, 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:43.360 because you're right, two thousand and six was a nutso 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:44.479 year in college football. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.000 So Florida wins the national championship going away from Ohio State. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.520 That is Chris Leak and Tim Tebow as a change 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.760 of pay sort of short yardage trick play quarterback, so 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.760 it was not the full Tebow experience. Troy Smith wins 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.239 the Heisman. We have this crazy one versus two Ohio 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.920 State Michigan. Will they play each other in a rematch 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.880 National Championship after they played too I believe it was 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.120 forty two to thirty nine late in November for their 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.240 rivalry game. So that was a talking point, that was 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.760 a narrative, and you mentioned the Boise State going undefeated, 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.279 the talking point do they deserve a shot at the 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.280 national championship? And right away into this game, by the way, 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.320 there was that narrative that David versus Goliath. Literally it 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.120 was David versus Glythe is how they talked about Boise State. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.440 And I suppose for some reason, Oklahoma I guess their 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.280 blue blood status and they had won a national championship 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:37.119 what six years prior over Florida State? Is that right? 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:41.880 Two thousand? That sounds sure right? So yeah, Oklahoma also 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.559 appears in two national championships after that and before this game, 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.360 losing to USC and losing to LSU. So that wasn't 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.800 a great way to go into another large game in 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.400 early January, but they were here once again. You had 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.520 Steve Slayton and Pat White. By the way, at West Virginia, 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:02.040 Auburn finishes in the top ten. No, you have the 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.440 beginning of the Colt McCoy era post Vince Young Texas. 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.920 I think Keevin Sneed comes in there a little bit 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.000 before transferring out and ends up at Ole Miss Wisconsin 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.760 and PJ. Hill. There's a lot of those guys, and 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.960 we'd be remiss if we didn't mention the other I 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.600 think the biggest other group of five story for a 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.680 number of weeks during this time, which was Hawaii and 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.440 Colt Brennan right right, oh, and big time you look, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:32.400 you look at the sort of the country's leaders in yardage, passing, receiving, rushing. 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.720 It wasn't as fun as looking back at two thousand 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.800 and three to me in terms of where college football 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.080 was at. It was good, but there were a lot 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.800 of names that had that just floated into the ether 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.160 pretty quickly. You're like, hey, I guess that guy did exist. 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.360 And cal was fun that year, but it's you know, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.800 for every Marshawn Lynch and Deshaun Jackson and Justin Forcett 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.200 that we still remember. You look back and you're like, oh, yeah, 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.760 Nate Longshore, that was the guy tasked with making that 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.760 engine go in the then Pac ten And you know, 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.040 Louisville was good at this time. USC we can talk 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.600 about with just like an absurd recruiting class going into 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.480 the season with their five blue chip running backs on 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:14.080 the cover of Sports Illustrated and losing at Corvallis for 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.320 at least the first time in two years or the 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.560 second time. It's the first time two thousand and six. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.400 They lose again in two thousand and eight in Corvallis, 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.800 so that their struggles with Oregon State begin there. They 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.680 end up winning the Rose Bowl. LSU has jimbo Fisher 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:29.840 and Bo Polini as coordinators. It's a coach time, great coach, 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.240 very very good coach here, and very very good coach 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.040 game in terms of that guy is on this staff 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.920 as well in talking about that festival between Boise and 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:41.880 in Oklahoma. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:46.240 I'm looking right now at the top passers from the 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:50.120 two thousand and six college football season, and this is 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.520 going to be a theme that we play over and 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.960 over again as we go back through this game. How 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.079 far down on this list do I need to go 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:02.160 before I get to what I do consider the first 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.880 NFL quarterback to have any amount of longevity? 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.120 So this is in what category? Like rating? 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.360 This is yards per attent, yards per attempt. I'm looking 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.559 at the full list here. There's one hundred names on 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.880 this list. How far down on that list do I 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:20.439 have to go before I can find a quarterback that's played, 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.079 you know, a fair amount in the NFL. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.920 Who could be described as a respectable NFL career quarterback. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:33.040 I would say a career backup, Okay, class so not 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:34.559 even So I was going to say, how far down 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:35.960 do you have to go to get to Brady Quinn? 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.160 I would say probably not in the top fifteen, because 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.000 I remember looking at the top and shout out Kevin Cobbs, 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.560 shout out JaMarcus Russell and John Beck. But I wouldn't 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.360 consider them with length consider them to be quote NFL 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:48.640 quarterbacks at this point. 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.360 This is again based on yards per attempt. Let me 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:56.760 read through this, okay, okay, Cult Brennan, Brian Brahm, John Beck, 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.800 JaMarcus Russell, not going to talk too much about you, Russell, 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:06.520 Jared Jared Zabranski, a name man you should get used 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.520 to hearing as we go through this game. Tyler Palco 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.520 from Pitt Kevin Cobb, who the Eagles reached for and 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.200 did get much out of, Eric Ainge, Bobby Reed, Jordan Palmer, 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:21.240 Andre Woodson, Adam I can't even say this guy's name 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.160 from San Jose State, Chase Holbrook, Zach Taylor, Troy Smith 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.720 won the Heisman, didn't do much at the next level. 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.480 John Stocko, who was at Wisconsin for about eighteen years. 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.400 He's a low key favorite of yours too. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:39.280 Love John Stockoe, Chris Leak, who had a great campaign 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:44.240 won the national Championship, Matt Grothe from USF, and all 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.280 the way down at number nineteen you get to Colt McCoy, 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.240 who's by and large been a backup at the next level. 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.280 But I say all this to underscore the fact that 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.880 it really was not a great quarterback year. Despite the 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:58.600 fact that it was a nuts a year in college 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.559 football with a lot of excitement, wasn't a great quarterback year. 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:04.880 And that is. 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.600 I think at least where I want to steer this 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.680 discussion as we get into this actual game. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.680 I have some good year for quarterbacks, goodyear for quarterbacks 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:16.240 named Colt, though between McCoy and not true high watermark 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.680 for cults, I don't see any Rockies or Tom Thums though. Okay, 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.000 so where do we want to start right now? Do 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:23.960 we want to get into the game. Do you want 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.760 to talk about the context of both Oklahoma and Boise State, 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.000 going into this game. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:32.400 Absolutely so Boise State. Boise State sort of the easy one. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:37.640 There had been momentum building around Boise State for years, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.760 and Boise State actually, by the time all was said 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.000 and done, was the only team in the two thousand 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:50.000 and six Slash seven season to finish undefeated, only team 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:54.120 to finish undefeated that year. They had an interesting cast 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.559 of characters. If I do say so myself. Their personnel 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.360 in the secondary really jumped out me. A young Kyle 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.800 Wilson who went on to a good NFL career. We 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.679 had a young Orlando Scandric. Both those guys were younger 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:12.640 and in the defensive backfield. They also had Ryan Clady, 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.920 who played a long time in the NFL sure along 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.760 their offensive line. I think he was like a red 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:24.559 shirt sophomore something like that. Otherwise, though, it was really 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.920 just a bunch of good team guys. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:27.680 You know. 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.520 We texted back and forth about Jared Zabranski, and I 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.160 said fifth in yards per attempt. There was an intensity 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:38.800 that came off of Zabranski that when we get to 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.280 our question of who was the best player on the field, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.120 Zabranski makes a really strong case for being the best 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:48.079 player on the field that night, just because of that intensity. Dan. 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.680 I always have a healthy amount of respect for people 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:56.480 who are able to maximize, absolutely get every single drop 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.360 out of their athletic potential. And that is what Jared 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.280 Zebranski was able to do. I don't say that in 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.960 any sort of disrespectful tone or way. He got everything 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.199 that he possibly could have out of his ability culminating 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.840 in this game. Also important to know, by the way, 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.720 and you talk about the best player in this game 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.160 or the best player on Boise State, this Boise team, 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:18.839 when you look at them, you mentioned there were a 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:23.800 couple NFL players. Those were the exceptions die. This was 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.720 a team in the whack for at this point six 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.520 or seven years. They've only been and it was called 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.000 one A at this point. They had only been a 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:37.040 Division one A program since nineteen ninety seven. Obviously, who 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.520 do they bring in? They need a steady hand to 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.360 make the transition. Gotta be Houston nutt, Gotta be Houston 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:47.480 nut Gotta here he leaves. They they it's dirt Cutter, 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.920 It's Dan Hawkins. But there wasn't. Even though it feels 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.920 like a culmination for Boise State, because they win, they 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.040 go twelve and one, thirteen and one, eleven and one, 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:57.880 they have a nine one year, then they go thirteen 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.160 ozho in two thousand and six. This is year one 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.000 of Chris Peterson, and he doesn't even though he was 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:07.360 there before. It's he overhauls the staff because Dan Hawkins 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.520 takes five or six coaches with him to Colorado. So 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.960 this is a new program, even though there is a 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.520 good amount of momentum, whereas Oklahoma they're used to this stage. 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.720 They've been to two, if not three national championships recently. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.720 They have what I would argue to be the running 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:29.040 back who runs with the most furious head of steam 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.680 that I think we've seen in the modern era in 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:36.760 Adrian Peterson. They have speed on the outside that Boise 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.760 simply doesn't. They have you know, Rufus Alexander at linebacker, 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.120 who I think is the All Big twelve defensive player 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.600 of the year that season, and Cjiu, who is you know, 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.800 a legit top level player on the line for Oklahoma. 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:54.560 This Oklahoma squad, even though it was a weird transition 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.200 two thousand and five, was Rhet Bomar, and he certainly 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.400 didn't seem like the answer, but kind of also was 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.720 the quarterback of the future. He gets kicked off the 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.600 team in August for a no show job at a 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:10.840 car dealership, thrusting Paul Thompson, who was largely fine during 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.080 the regular season during the regular season. You need to 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:20.360 there's your caveat largely fine during the regular season, thrust 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:24.320 him into the starting role. But you figure with a 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:28.680 healthy amount of high level talent playing indoors, with what 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.680 I would say is the speed advantage, the depth advantage, 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.720 and the experience, the experience on this stage, that Oklahoma 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:40.040 is in a pretty good spot going into this fiesta. Yeah, 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:40.520 for sure. 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.760 And one thing that you did leave out was that 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:48.160 Adrian Peterson broke his collar bone. Oh yeah against Iowa 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:52.920 State that season. Yeah, and he rushed for some insane 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.000 amount of yardage. I guess it was a little over 0:15:56.040 --> 0:16:00.120 one thy and twelve touchdowns in just seven games. He 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.480 was very, very good. This game actually represented his return 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.840 to football. He suited up after three months on the 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.320 shelf with the broken collar boom, so his talent was 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.360 on full display. We saw it a little bit more 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.000 as the game wore on, what ap all Day could 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.960 bring to the field. He obviously scored in overtime as well, 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:24.880 but for sure a much more talented Oklahoma squad. Now, 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.200 they didn't play as well as Boise as a team, 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.360 and ultimately that's what led somewhat to their demise. But 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.200 two teams coming at this from very different points of view. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:40.040 Oklahoma that year finished eleven and three, So they lost 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:44.040 to Boise in the postseason. They also lost the Red 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.880 River shootout to Texas, and then I believe they lost 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:48.800 by one on the road to your Oregon Ducks. 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.360 Do you remember why they lost by one to my 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.880 Orgon Ducks. That would be an on side kick that 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.720 was judged to have gone ten yards that Oregon recovered 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:02.360 near the end of the game. Controversially decided that it 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:07.359 had gone ten yards, and maybe it didn't, maybe it didn't, 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.680 but it did give Oregon. Oregon had blocked a field 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:13.119 goal and scored to get there. It gave Oregon another 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:18.119 last second chance, and upon further review, it may have 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.480 been a generous call on the field that favored the 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.679 home the hometown Ducks, and Oregon did get just absolutely 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.680 murdered the year before in Norman in the home and home. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.240 So I don't know if that changes what Oklahoma's postseason 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.959 looks like because it's a non conference game and they 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.960 had still won the Big Twelve and had a loss 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.760 on their schedule. Who knows, but yeah, that was That 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.399 was a to bring up both the Boise game and 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.919 the Oregon game on the same show because it was 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.200 the same year. I don't think a lot of Oklahoma 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.080 fans are listening to this show because of the topic, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:52.960 but I am sorry we did. We did not give 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:53.760 you a trigger warning. 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.640 This game was on Fox, it was part of the 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:02.520 BCS Bull Bash, and one of the things that jumped 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.640 out at me on the rewatch was just how modern 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:09.439 the product felt. Oftentimes you go back, you watch some 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.040 of these old games and it just feels like a 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.159 dated product. Back in two thousand and five when we 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.440 did the Notre Dame game, a lot of equips by 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:22.120 one Tom Hammond about oh HD, look at that hope 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:26.000 you're watching in high definition. We had high definition in 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.439 two thousand and seven, and in the watch back, it 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.960 really felt like more of a modern product. We had 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.160 an announcer combination of Tom Brenneman as the main play 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:42.399 by play guy, serving I think a necessary purpose to 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:47.679 balance out the unbridled optimism of Barry Alvarez who was 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.199 in the booth, and Charles Davis who was also in 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:52.919 the booth, a three man booth up there. We had 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.040 Chris Myers on the sidelines. We'll need to talk about 0:18:56.080 --> 0:19:00.119 him a little bit later. A little bit later, this 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.920 game was played in Glendale at the new Cardinal Stadium, 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.840 I believe, for the first time after many years of 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.840 being hosted at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe. As they 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:11.760 said on the broadcast, they had to bring in an 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:17.240 additional twelve thousand seats for this football game. Wow, which 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:21.480 I don't feel like is a commonality among most of. 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.359 The bowl games we talk about. So there was suffice to. 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.120 Say, Dan, there was a lot of interest going into 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.480 this football game. This truly was, as he said earlier, 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.520 a David versus Golias scenario in college football. 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.879 Yes, and our second rewatch that takes place in the 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.320 stadium also the home of the Auburn Oregon game a 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.840 few years later, three years later, four years later or whatever. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:45.080 And the same referee from that game, same really ref 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.320 from It's a big ten ref and big ten crew. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.480 I believe it's the full crew is big ten, same 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.480 head ref from the Michael Dyer was definitely down. Game 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:59.640 officiated and oversaw this game between Boise State and in Oklahoma. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:01.800 It was You're right, You're absolutely right that it was 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:06.359 a modern production. Good replays, good slow motion, good angles, 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.800 good audio, good good audio, mixed crowd and broadcasters. You're 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.480 right about Tom Brenneman balancing out the excitable three man 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.280 booth with him, Charles Davis and Barry Alvarez, almost like 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.480 the glass of cold milk when you're really attacking some 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:20.440 spicy buffalo. 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:24.399 And you know, I felt, I really truly felt, and 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.920 I didn't even remember who was calling this game when 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.880 I went back to watch. Right when I heard Tom Brenneman, 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:32.560 I was like, oh wow, I like, I have nothing 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.040 against Tom Brenneman. 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:35.200 But now he did it. I thought he did it. 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.119 Other than the very end, which we can get to, 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.440 I thought he did a reasonably good job. And by 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:44.359 the way, this is New Year's Day two thousand and seven, 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.199 when we really had the good It was nice to 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.160 have New Year's Day games, the huge New Year's Day games. 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.520 Do you remember where you were watching this game? I 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.159 think I was at home with Mammy h watching this game. Okay, 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.200 now was this the same night as the Sugar Bowl, 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:02.160 the JaMarcus Russ pulling down the Notre Dame pants game. 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.879 I believe it was because they actually referenced it on 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.560 the broadcast. Tom Brennanan Tom Brennanman got in a little 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.119 quip about Notre Dame losing eight straight Bowl games or 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.920 whatever it is. Thanks Tom, Yeah, yeah, thank you Tom. 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.960 But what I was gonna say is, when I found 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.040 out that Brennanman was paired up with Barry Alvarez, A 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.639 Charles Davis made perfect sense. I actually thought Fox did 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:26.320 a really good job pairing those three together. 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:27.040 It worked out. 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:30.719 The game itself will go down in history as one 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.320 of the all time greats. I know we say that 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:37.520 each week we do one of these episodes. Hopefully by 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.679 now it's clear we're trying to focus on some of 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:42.359 the great games. That's why they all fit the bill. Yeah, 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:47.639 Boyse opens up a quick fourteen to nil lead. Oklahoma 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.920 comes back eventually about midway through the third quarter. It's 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:55.200 sort of looking like this thing is over. Boyse jumps 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.479 out to a twenty eight to ten lead. To that point, 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:00.800