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Speaker 1: Whoo whoo and no, Dan and.

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Speaker 2: Tie, welcome back to the Solid Verbal, Boys and girls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Today, today we're going to put a cap on the

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Speaker 2: two thousand and six college football season. It wasn't the

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Speaker 2: two thousand and seven Fiesta Ball on New Year's Day

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Speaker 2: was the capstone game for that season.

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Speaker 1: I think it's all intense, double purposes. Yeah, it's absolutely

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Speaker 1: All of these programs had wild seasons, wild games. Your

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Speaker 2: It was different because of what it symbolized, right, the

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Speaker 1: So Florida wins the national championship going away from Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: each interception is worse than the last.

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Speaker 2: Oh, man, that's I have. I actually have that exact

434
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 2: Oh good for a bitch down on my crib sheet

435
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 2: because he was so truly bad. Remember we talked about

436
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey and his second quarter. Yes, Paul Thompson's third

437
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: quarter was a bit of a sight to behold because

438
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: it really felt like he didn't do anything right and

439
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: even the passes he completed were by accident.

440
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: It seemed that he had he was jittery, he didn't

441
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: trust his eyes at all for the majority of this game,

442
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: and it really hurt Oklahoma. I don't fully think. And

443
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: this was weird to behold because they had the Kevins,

444
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: Someone and Smith running the Oklahoma offense, which these two

445
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: eventually become modern legends in terms of opening up offenses

446
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: and generating a ton of yards and a ton of points.

447
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, Paul Thompson's either his understanding of

448
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: the offense or just his nerves in the game, the

449
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: offense didn't seem constructed for his ability and strengths because

450
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: he didn't make plays. He was a wide receiver of

451
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: the previous year, right, So take that for what it's worth.

452
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: Every pass was thrown with what I would say was

453
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: maximum force, with the exception of a couple fades that

454
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: they tried down near the goal line, there really wasn't

455
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: any touch on these passes. Barry Alvarez referred to Paul

456
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: Thompson as a street thrower, which I have no idea.

457
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 2: That's uncomponent what that means, but very uncomfortable. I spent

458
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: a good deal of my rewatch trying to figure out

459
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: what the hell he meant. But I kept asking the

460
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: question like you had Adrian Peterson, and I know he

461
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: got hurt. He was out for a good chunk of

462
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: the Year. But in this game, we saw Paul Thompson

463
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: use his legs. He was a runner, he's a big kid,

464
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: he played receiver. Sure, if they had simply run some

465
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: variation of a read option with Paul Thompson and Adrian Peterson,

466
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 2: would they not have been better off in this football game?

467
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: Yes? And no. I mean I think maybe it's in

468
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: the NFL where Adrian Peterson has been insistent that he

469
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: wants to run from under center. He wants that downhill

470
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: element to him, So maybe he wouldn't have wouldn't have

471
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: been at as dominant without running a sort of eye system.

472
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: So it sort of forced them to run two different

473
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: offenses at once. And Adrian Peterson, even though he did

474
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: make plays in this game, wasn't a huge consistent factor.

475
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: He didn't have a seventy three yard run, he didn't

476
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: average eight point nine yards per carry in this game.

477
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: He did not dominate Boise State. The Broncos very wisely

478
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: made Paul Thompson beat them, or tried to make Paul,

479
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: or at least they said, if we're going to lose,

480
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: it'll be at the hands of Paul Thompson, not Adrian Peterson.

481
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: So Yes, in theory Adrian Peterson and Paul Thompson in

482
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: the backfield with a sort of RPO more modern read

483
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: option type offense would have been beneficial. I just maybe

484
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: it was a little ahead of Oklahoma's time.

485
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Paul Thompson thing, Dan, it was tough to watch,

486
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: especially when you see a young Sam Bradford just roaming

487
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: by on the sidelines. I know he wasn't a highly

488
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: touted recruit, but he would go on to in the

489
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: starting job for the two thousand and seven season and

490
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: then obviously the Heisman Trophy in two thousand and eight.

491
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: So his career, both in college and on the pro

492
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: level to some extent, worked out pretty well. I just

493
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: I kept coming back to like, if anybody else were

494
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: that Oklahoma quarterback, I feel like they would have been

495
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: good enough to win this game. Paul Thompson just gave

496
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 2: them nothing. Nothing out there, especially in the third quarter.

497
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: The second interception he threw in the third quarter was tipped.

498
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: It wasn't entirely his fault, but there was one like

499
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: the first one he threw where it was a jump

500
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: ball across his body into quadruple coverage, like thirty yards

501
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: down the field.

502
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: It was an arm punt.

503
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: It was essentially an arm punt, trusting his arm strength

504
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: a little too much, very poor decision making. If anybody

505
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: else had been quarterback for Oklahoma, I feel like it

506
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: would have been a different outcome. And I say that

507
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: not to detract at all from what Boise State did,

508
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: because Boise State sure gave away the lead, But what

509
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: they did in that final minute and a half of regulation,

510
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: what they did in their first series in overtime, will

511
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: go down in college football lore as like maybe the

512
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: greatest two drives in the history of the game.

513
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: Does Kevin Cobb win this game for Oklahoma? Probably? Kevin

514
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: Cobb had a good year that year for Houston. He did,

515
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: he did, I mean not terribly far away for Houston, right.

516
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: No, So, okay, we moved to the third quarter. We

517
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: talked a little bit about the third quarter. But Boise

518
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: eventually works their way up to a twenty eight to

519
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: ten lead on.

520
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: An egregious pick six that Paul Thompson throws just directly

521
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: to a Boise defender who jogs in. But when Boise

522
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: gets the ball back, they punt it. It hits a

523
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: Boise player in the back of the leg.

524
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: Yes, Oklahoma gets the ball deep in Boise territory, apl

525
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: Day runs in twenty eight to seventeen. Then as we

526
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: turned to the fourth quarter, we had a field goal

527
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: by Garrett Hartley went on to an NFL career twenty

528
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: eight to twenty. We have a touchdown pass from Paul

529
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: Thompson to Quentin Cheney with about a minute and twenty

530
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: six left, they get the two point conversion. It's a

531
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: tip pass, but Joaquina Glacias hauls that in to tie

532
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 2: it up at twenty eight all. And then as Boise

533
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: State gets the ball back on the ensuing drive after

534
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: the kickoff, Jared Zabranski big Z is intercepted by Marcus

535
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: Walker from Oklahoma, who runs at thirty four yards for

536
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: a pick six. In the blink of an eye, Oklahoma

537
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: is now up by seven points, by a thirty five

538
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: to twenty eight score, and that is where Daniel in

539
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: the final minute of this game, things really went pretty haywired,

540
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: didn't they.

541
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: I will yeah, I'll add a couple of things. Obviously,

542
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: we have the Boise fumble that leads to Oklahoma driving

543
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: the field and scoring. Boise dropped that what would have

544
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: been a game ending pick in the m zone that

545
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: ended up tipping and that gets caught to come within

546
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: two before the conversion. A great conversion, by the way, really,

547
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean it was I'm sure the highlight of Paul

548
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: Thompson's game, if not career, just scrambling around and throwing

549
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: it successfully away from his body. Jared Zebranski with what

550
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: they have two timeouts and like a minute and a

551
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: half left he throws It was like a hold my beer,

552
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: pick six. It was so bad, and Oklahoma runs that

553
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: in to take the lead. The drive for Boise. I'm

554
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: more impressed with what Boise was able to do, but

555
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: what Oklahoma decided to defend Boise with, which was three

556
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: man rushes playing way way off soft prevent coverages. This

557
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: is a Brent Venables defense. This is not some name

558
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: that we don't remember all these years later. This is

559
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: a big, big deal defensive coordinator. Maybe he wasn't back then,

560
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: maybe this was sort of early on for him, but

561
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: the strategy that they took and they did pretty well.

562
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: Boise gets to midfield, but they get after Jared Zebranski

563
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: pretty well, and it sets up a fourth and eighteen tie.

564
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: And if there's one enemy of of I guess pressure, right.

565
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: It's the idea of giving a team when their backs

566
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: are against the wall. I call it the continuum tie

567
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: time in space. They rush three, they play off the receivers,

568
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: and this to me was maybe the play. I mean,

569
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: we have the crazy Alabama Georgia ending from a couple

570
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: of years ago, but in terms of the creativity, the

571
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: stones of the moment and the execution, I can't imagine

572
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: a more beautiful college football moment than the hook and

573
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: ladder Boise State pulls off. In this moment.

574
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: You could live five hundred years and never see a

575
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: trick play work that well.

576
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: Everything about it was perfect.

577
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: Thing about that play was beautiful and perfect, even the

578
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: receiver taking a few extra steps with the ball to

579
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: really really sell it. You know, he sold it, Yeah,

580
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: I mean he just like they just had the whole

581
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: thing engineered in some sort of football laboratory to be

582
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: absolutely perfect. So they run the hook and ladder. Right,

583
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: the pass is completed, it's a score. It's lateraled back.

584
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: It goes for a thirty five yard touchdown with seven

585
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: seconds left to make it thirty five thirty five. Now,

586
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: obviously you're watching it a home. This is an incredible moment.

587
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't know where I was, but I remember going crazy,

588
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: standing up out of my chair, like I cannot believe

589
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: what I just saw here. Trick plays like that are

590
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: once in a generation, rarely if every do you see

591
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: one work? Do you see one worked that well? But

592
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: what we didn't know at the time is we're watching

593
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: this in real time, is that Chris Peterson is just

594
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: gonna empty the frigging clip like every trick play, every

595
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: every misdirection play he's got in the playbook on the

596
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: armband he is. He just decides in that moment he

597
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: is gonna show off his stones. And that's what we

598
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: saw as we go into overtime.

599
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: Dan, Yes, it one hundred percent is the confidence from

600
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson. Even you said when you watched the pregame

601
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: when they were sort of talking about the David Versus

602
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: Goliath narrative, you said that was just like a glow

603
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: about Chris. Oh yeah, that he's just like, we're just

604
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: gonna have fun. We're just gonna mess around and do whatever.

605
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: We don't care, like what do we have to lose.

606
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: There's no pressure on us.

607
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: He ran like five trick plays on two possessions overtime starts.

608
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: First play, Adrian Peterson just bulls through everyone scores twenty

609
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: five yard touchdown run. Garrett Hartley makes the kick forty

610
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: two to thirty five, So then Boise gets the ball back.

611
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: They have to score, and this is again where Chris

612
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: Peterson just decides, you know what, efitt, We're gonna run

613
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 2: every trick, every misdirection play we've got in the playbook.

614
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: Eventually they end up scoring on a six yard pass

615
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: from Vinnie Peretta to Derek Schuman, a tight end. By

616
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: the way, he wore number ninety one, which I don't

617
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: know if I've ever seen before.

618
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love a good, like weird position group number.

619
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: Didn't Evan Weaver wear like eighty seven for Yal as

620
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: a linebacker? I love a good weird number number ninety one.

621
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: Derek Schuman catches the touchdown. What does Chris Peterson decide

622
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: to do? He's going for the win. He's going for two.

623
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: A fit going for two.

624
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: That, of course, is when they take the bubble wrap

625
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: off a statue of liberty play. Ian Johnson runs in

626
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: from three yards away to give the Boise State Broncos

627
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: a huge forty three to forty two upset victory in

628
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: the Fiesta Bowl. David has a Fish knocked out Goliath,

629
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: and at least for that moment in college football, unless

630
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: if you were an Oklahoma fan, all was right in

631
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 2: the world.

632
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: Yes, that was okay. So what is it? Vinnie Peretta

633
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: Is his name? Vinnie Peretta. Yeah, So he's sort of

634
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: an all purpose receive a running back and he every

635
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: time it seemed that he ended up in the backfield

636
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: and not Ian Johnson, who had a very nice game.

637
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: And we'll get to Ian Johnson momentarily. We haven't mentioned

638
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: his name, but every time Vinnie Peretta ended up in

639
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: a formation near the quarterback, it seemed like Boise State

640
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: was at least attempting a trick play. There was like

641
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: a throwback and nothing was there, and he just sort

642
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: of ran. And there was another instance where it looked

643
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: like they were trying to set something up, and Vinnie

644
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: Peretta appears next to Jared Zebranski, not their all conference

645
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: running back Ian Johnson, who had really other than the

646
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: fumble helped to pace Boise State's effort that night, and

647
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma's credit, was it Derek Schuman number ninety one

648
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: tight end Derek Schuman. Yep, he's covered by a linebacker

649
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: on the play. It's not like he leaks out without

650
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: anybody noticed. In the defense, he's accounted for. Vinny Paretta

651
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: just throws a good pack. Yeah, he throws a really

652
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: nice past six yards for the time to get within one.

653
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: Does Oklahoma win if any Peretta is their quarterback? That's

654
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: so mean, I'm serious. The answer is yes, No, they

655
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: don't win with any Peretta. No, absolutely not. Can we

656
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: please talk about the Statue of Liberty real quick? Oh

657
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: we have to, don't we another iconic play? So the Statue

658
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: of Liberty sees boyse lineup Jared Zabranski next to Ian Johnson,

659
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: which is totally normal in the shotgun formation, and oh no,

660
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: he's under center, I believe, and they go trips right. Oklahoma,

661
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: trying to take every precaution, moves four dudes in the

662
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: area of three receivers, and suddenly, ty, I mean, I

663
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: went to a state school, but my math tells me

664
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: we've got a bit of a mismatch on the line

665
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: of side. I think that's accurate. Yeah, that's accurate. It's

666
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: then it's essentially because there's one guy sort of in

667
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: the slot for Oklahoma. We have six guys on the line,

668
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: so I think it's five linemen and a tight end

669
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: for Boise State. Six guys in there blocking with six

670
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: guys in the box for Oklahoma. So we have a

671
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: hat on a hat no matter what. So if Jared

672
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: Lebronski just hands it to Ian Johnson, there's a good

673
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: shot he's picking up two yards in this scenario, there's

674
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: he's a good running back with a pretty good offensive line.

675
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: He just run behind Ryan Clady and you're there. What

676
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: happens is, as we all know the statue of Liberty,

677
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: Jared Leebranski fakes the screen horizontally to a receiver who

678
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: sells obviously a great job coaching. Chris Peterson, former wide

679
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: receiver coach, sells the fake pass and he puts it

680
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: around his back and Ian Johnson takes it in untouched

681
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: with a great seal on the edge it would think

682
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: it was Ryan Clady and ends up blocking two guys, yeah,

683
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: to help seal that edge. As Oklahoma starts running the

684
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: wrong way, which is to be expected on a statue

685
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: of liberty, and Ian Johnson runs it in untouched, launches

686
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: the ball into a sea of blue and orange.

687
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 2: So, for those of you playing the home game wondering,

688
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: what's a statue of liberty, statue of Liberty was a

689
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: fake pass. Jared Zabranski sort of pulls the ball down,

690
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: puts it behind his back. Ian Johnson grabs it, runs

691
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: it for a touchdown. My problem with this play was

692
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like Ian Johnson sold it. Can we

693
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: watch it like he's sort of standing there like casual

694
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: address James Franklin in the backfield. Now it worked, it

695
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: worked great, true, but he just didn't sell it the

696
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: way I would have expected for a successful trick play,

697
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: certainly one of that magnitude.

698
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: So to take a step in terms of I'm going

699
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm in here for pass. Yeah, yeah, I just I

700
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: guess I expected more in that. Of course, I'm splitting

701
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: hairs here. It's ridiculous. But on the watch back, it

702
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: didn't seem like he sold it.

703
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: It did feel like something was a little bit off

704
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: from the comfort of my couch, But it worked.

705
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: Right, It worked forty three. It definitely worked to forty two.

706
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: A great play, a great sequence for Boise State, a

707
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 2: great win as they finished the year thirteen to zero again,

708
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: the only undefeated team that year in all of college football.

709
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: A great story. Pandemonium ensues, right, We've got all sorts

710
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: of stuff going on. We've got Chris Myers out there,

711
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: try and interview some of these folks. I think he

712
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: talks to Jared's a branski z Man's all fired up,

713
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: all fired up, throw it around the horn, get some

714
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: commentary on what just transpired. Everyone is still catching their breath.

715
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: And then we go down to Chris Myers for what

716
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: I think will also go down in college football lore

717
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 2: as one of those weird, iconic moments that could only

718
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: happen in this sport. Chris Myers is on the sidelines

719
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: interviewing Ian Johnson. Ian Johnson the star running back for

720
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: Boise that year. He led the nation in rushing touchdowns.

721
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: He had a really good year, went on, didn't really

722
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: do much in the NFL, had a cup of coffee,

723
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: but had a great year for the Boise State Broncos.

724
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: Ian Johnson's on the sidelines. He's got his girlfriend in

725
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 2: his arm. She's a cheerleader. Just a really happy story.

726
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 2: Chris Myers does this really thoughtful interview with Ian Johnson,

727
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: who's overcome.

728
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: And he's very diplomatic, because Myers and everybody on the field,

729
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: they're being asked, these Boise players, do they deserve a

730
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: shot at Florida or Ohio State, And they're all very

731
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: diplomatic or they're confident. It's good, it's good TV. It's

732
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: all American college football. It's all American college football. Zabranski said, yeah,

733
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: we deserve a chance. Ian Johnson was he didn't want

734
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: to wade into territory. So we got our bowl game, right,

735
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: we got our win, we proved all we could prove.

736
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: We're happy to be here. Right.

737
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: Then, at the conclusion of the interview, and I had

738
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: to watch this like eight times to fully comprehend it.

739
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: Chris Myers, it's wild.

740
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: And otherwise fantastic journalist and sideline reporter and commentator for

741
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: many many years, dating all the way back to his

742
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: time at ESPN, sort of passively dismissively concludes the interview

743
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: by saying, Okay, I know now you want to propose

744
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: to your girlfriend, so go ahead. And his girlf ultimate

745
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: ce Block, Yeah, his girlfriend. Ian Johnson's girlfriend had no

746
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 2: idea that this was coming, none whatsoever. Dan, All right,

747
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna propose to your girlfriend, congratulations verbatim.

748
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: Her face changes is she takes on this look of

749
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: complete surprise. Ian Johnson stumbles a little bit, because who

750
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 2: the hell wouldn't stumble trying to propose amid all that craziness,

751
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: Not to mention, this boob just spilled the beans on

752
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: your surprise plan. He pops to his knee offers a

753
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 2: marriage proposal. She of course says, yes, they're still married today.

754
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: Are you telling me Chris Myers did not tee you

755
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: up for you proposing to the solid wife Kate. I

756
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: think that's what I'm saying. Yeah, So what I think

757
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: happened is somebody told Chris Myers that he was going

758
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: to do this, and I think Chris Myers took that

759
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: as sort of a lighthearted thing. What Chris Myers says is, so, now,

760
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? You're gonna propose to your girlfriend? Right,

761
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: And when he when Ian Johnson gets down on one knee,

762
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: Chris Meyer says, oh, he's actually doing or something along

763
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: those lines. And so I don't know if Chris Myers

764
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: got a tip off that he thought was a joke.

765
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: I think maybe he got a tip off and the

766
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: intent was to have him say, and I understand you

767
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: have a question you want to ask, like to tee

768
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 1: him up in a more responsible, respectful way, right, Don't

769
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: you think I don't mean to call Chris Myers a booth?

770
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: That wasn't nice, But this was this was this was

771
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: not his finest broadcast moment spilling the beans. I'm sure

772
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: he would say it, but to your point, it did

773
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: not sound as if he took it seriously because there

774
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: was a little quip like, oh wait, you're actually doing it. Okay,

775
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: of course he did actually do it, and a fun

776
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: story that goes along with this game forevermore. What are

777
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: your other thoughts on this game now that we've walked

778
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: through the whole thing? A good coach game. I know

779
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: you mentioned Brent Venables for Oklahoma, but yes, a bunch

780
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: of other big name guys that took part in this game.

781
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, Brian Harson is the offensive coordinator for Boise State,

782
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: though Chris Peterson is calling the offense justin Wilcox is

783
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: calling the defense a good defense that you was opportunistic

784
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: and tackled really well. This was not a highly talented,

785
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: a highly deep defense, but they played crazy hard and

786
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: they played very well. Corey Hall led things in the

787
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: middle for Boise stated a really nice linebacker for them.

788
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: A few other things that jumped out to me beyond

789
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: the coaches in this game. I think what mars Cel

790
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: Yates was in the secondary, I believe for for Boise State.

791
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: He goes on to be a coordinator a couple places,

792
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: one even just running out onto the field. Boise has

793
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: some literally whack uniforms. This is still a time in

794
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: which I don't even remember if it was Nike or Adidas,

795
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: where even a high level top ten, top twenty five,

796
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: top forty. I know they're not considered a group of

797
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: five at this point, but it's a whack school. Their

798
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: uniforms are three rungs below the nicer uniforms of college football.

799
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: It's a very It's an East Bay look for Boise State,

800
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: and that sucks. They eventually did a lot better. I'm

801
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: sorry they were on a stage that big. They should

802
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: have had new uniforms for the Fiesta Bowl, and they

803
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: deserved better. I don't know, Sorry, whatever it was, Nike, Adidas,

804
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: whoever number two you mentioned the coaches, I thought back

805
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: at this game only like as I mentioned, only remembering

806
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: the end the fireworks at the end of the game.

807
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: I knew that it was sort of back and forth

808
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: to some extent, and Jared Zebranski made plays, and I

809
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: remember Adrian Peterson was in the game, and I remember,

810
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, Malcolm Kelly and Joachina Glessias. I remember all

811
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: of these names. My assumption was it was back and forth.

812
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: Boise pulls it out at the end watching back, Boise

813
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: wants credit for fixing a roof it destroyed, and that

814
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: colors things a little bit differently for me. When you're

815
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: up twenty eight to ten with the ball with five

816
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: minutes left from the third quarter, and you turn the

817
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: ball over a couple of times, backbreaking interceptions, fumbles, you

818
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 1: stall out on offense a ton against a defense that's good. Again,

819
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: I mentioned Rufus, Alexander. I think you finished with seventeen

820
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: tackles in this game. May have been the best player

821
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: in this game, ye, I mean the best presence. The

822
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: best person in this game is Chris Peterson. I think

823
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: we can probably agree on that. Sure, But the fact

824
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: that Boise State is up three possessions, if my math

825
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: is correct, with the ball deep into the game and

826
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: need to reach into the ultimate quiver to pull out

827
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: trick arrows, to pull out a game with that sort

828
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: of lead. It doesn't change how fun and exciting and

829
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: entertaining the end was, but it colors a picture more

830
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: fully that I didn't fully remember. And so it was

831
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: great at the end, but damn, Boise State almost choked

832
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: away this incredible opportunity to make a national statement and

833
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: needed magic to save it.

834
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: Do you think that by virtue of blowing that lead

835
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: and in a weird way, creating these moments, that it

836
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: has made Boise State a better football program?

837
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: Oh, there's no question. I'm just looking back and saying

838
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: the complete picture is boise almost choked away this golden

839
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: opportunity to be you know, David to Oklahoma's quote unquote Goliath.

840
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: This was still it wasn't an amazing Oklahoma team, was

841
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: a good Oklahoma team, but it just colors things a

842
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: little bit differently for me. Now, these are these are

843
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: immortal moments. So I'm glad on a certain level, on

844
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: an entertainment level, that Boise State chokes away this lead

845
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: and they didn't have the depth to really step on

846
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: the gas for four quarters the entire time. Maybe they

847
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: eventually do. When you look at what you know, the

848
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore era had in store for Boise State. But

849
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: it definitely it jogs back memories that I didn't even remember,

850
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: and so that that changes things a little bit for me,

851
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: that they need this magic to pull out the not choke.

852
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: And that's all it is for me. That it just

853
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: it's a little less impressive from a football standpoint. It

854
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: loses nothing from an entertainment standpoint.

855
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: The other thing that stood out to me they Oklahoma

856
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: Sooners playing football since eighteen ninety five. This is a

857
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: program that's you know, been around a while. They've had

858
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: a ton of success. Boise State at that point was

859
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: what ten years into to their Division One status.

860
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Big Sky to Big West. Yeah.

861
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: So I understand the structure of college football painting this

862
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: game as a David versus Goliath moment for sure. So

863
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: only a seven and a half points spread, Yeah, seven

864
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 2: and a half points happens every week on games that

865
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: we preview, and in virtually all of those cases we

866
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: are not talking about a David versus Goliath moment. So

867
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: there was a little bit of marketing, a little bit

868
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: of packaging that I think made this game a little

869
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: bit more exciting.

870
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, when Boise State had pretty much handled everybody impressively.

871
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,959
Speaker 1: It was close against Wyoming. They blow out Oregon State,

872
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: a Pac ten team. They have a close call against

873
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: San Jose State on the road. I think they win

874
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: by a field goal. You look at the network these

875
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: games around, it's local Boise television only. There is no

876
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: national presence outside of they have ESPN two for Fresno.

877
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: They have you remember versus oh Man. Wow? Oh, they

878
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: have Versus for the Utah game. They the Oregon State

879
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: game was on ESPN. But there's a lot of KTVB

880
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: broadcasts thrown into this Boise schedule. Channel seven, NBC affiliate

881
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: in Boise, Idaho, shout out to the Treasure Valley. So

882
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: that stood out to me too. That Boise and even

883
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: if you look at their previous years, their bowl games

884
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: that they played in and seven and a half felt

885
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: about right, even with a thirteen to oher record. The

886
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: year before that, they lose in the MPC Computers Bowl

887
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: to Boston College. They lose to Louisville and the Liberty Bowl,

888
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: which is essentially a virtual home game for Louisville. I

889
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 1: mean it's very close. The Fort Worth Bowl, they beat

890
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: TCU the year before that and the Humanitarian Bowl, which

891
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: is local. They beat Iowa State the year before that,

892
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: so in terms of stages, I would not have been

893
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: surprised if it was ten thirteen points spread. If Vinnie

894
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: Peretta was.

895
00:49:54,680 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: Playing, I guess yeah, yeah, yeah, incredible. Boise State wins again.

896
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: They finished the year is the only undefeated team. Obviously,

897
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: the program has gone to great heights ever since then.

898
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: But this was a seminal moment, not just in the

899
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 2: history of the Boise State program, but really in the

900
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: history of postseason college football, certainly BCS era college football.

901
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: Let me ask the question that I've been asking about

902
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: all of these games, and there are a number of

903
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: different ways that I think you could answer this one.

904
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: Who was the best player slash presence on the field.

905
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: Is it Chris Peterson?

906
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's one hundred percent Chris Peterson. There are

907
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: guys who made plays here and there. Adrian Peterson is

908
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: the clear best player big picture, but in a vacuum

909
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: on the field that night, Yeah, I mean Zabranski took

910
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: too much off the table for everything he put onto it.

911
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: Paul Thompson made plays at times, but took way too

912
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: much off as well. I think it's Peterson, especially with

913
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: how well Boise State comes out of the shoot to

914
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: start the game that you know, whether it's scripting ten

915
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: to fifteen plays, they came out so impressively. They started

916
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: and finished this game with so much poise and a poise,

917
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: poissy poise and a plan that it's it's Peterson's shining

918
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: moment to this day.

919
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this about Chris Peterson. If he's

920
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 2: subbed in for Paul Thompson, does Oklahoma win emails solid well.

921
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: I want to make something else clear. Yeah, go ahead, Yes,

922
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: I want to make something else abundantly clear. If for

923
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: some reason, this were in the playoff era and say

924
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: Boise State, it was like a two to three matchup

925
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: between Oklahoma and Boise State and it was a one

926
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: to four. I know it wasn't between Ohio State and Florida,

927
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: and Boise State ends up in the championship game against

928
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: we'll say Florida because they handled Ohio State. We know

929
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: that Boise State, the Broncos would have been so mo

930
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: by the Gators. They would have been I want, absolutely

931
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: I roll the Boise State story. I love the idea

932
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: of saying let them decided on the field, Let them

933
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: get a shot. Suh moked.

934
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: That was a good Florida team, A really good Florida team.

935
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: It was really good, really good Florida team. This is

936
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: the kind of game that, gosh, if it were a playoff,

937
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: setting takes a little bit of the wind out of

938
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: your sales, doesn't it.

939
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, what would you set

940
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: the line at? Oh, gosh, for Florida Boise? Knowing what

941
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: we know about those two programs at their absolute best

942
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: fourteen fourteen and a half, I think, yeah, at least

943
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: you're I think you're well into double digits.

944
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: It would it would have come down at game time too,

945
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: because Boyse would have been a very strong public play.

946
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: People would have wanted to bet Boyse even if they

947
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: didn't truly believe they could cover suh moked.

948
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: All right, okay, well I will can I can I

949
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: add a couple of more items of context as I

950
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: like to do. Please, Which of these ten songs which

951
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: were number one that well here we go would you

952
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: most would you most like to listen to? I don't

953
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: remember the music that was involved in this game. I

954
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: don't think there was a clear pop song intro, but

955
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, lips of an angel from Hinder, Oh Boy,

956
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: Shorty like Mine from Bow Wow, We Fly High, Jim Jones,

957
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: How to Save a Life from the fray, Jesus say

958
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: it right, Nellie Fertado, My love justin Timberlake, smack that

959
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: Acon fer Delicious. I don't need to tell you the

960
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: artist there, right, I want to love you also Acon

961
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: and irreplaceable Beyonce. Akon had a year that year. Akon

962
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: had a hell of a year.

963
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Akon had a year. I guess I go Timberlake.

964
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: But a couple options there.

965
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: And on the uh in the box office tie, which

966
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: of these are you most likely? I'm assuming you just

967
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: anything Acon You're most likely to put on?

968
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: Right?

969
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: Sure? Box office college football related movie number ten, We

970
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: Are Marshall.

971
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: I wrote a review of that movie at the time,

972
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: I was writing for Fox Sports, and I tore it

973
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: to shreds oh.

974
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: Tore it to shreds all right, all right out.

975
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: And I had every Marshall fan in the universe sending

976
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: me angry emails.

977
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: A thundering herd of angry Marshall fans. Rocky Balboa, The

978
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: Good Shepherd, Charlotte's Web, Happily Never After, Dream Girls, Freedom Writers,

979
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: Children of Men, which I haven't seen and I've heard

980
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: is incredible. I don't know if you've seen Children No Men,

981
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: The Pursuit of Happiness and Number One Night at the Museum.

982
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Holy, I would see Children of Men ahead

983
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: of the rest of that that spread. Ah, wasn't Dreamgirls

984
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,959
Speaker 1: with Jennifer Heibowen for sure. I've never seen that one either,

985
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: Beyonce Eddie Murphy. Ah man, I have no idea.

986
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: That's not a good nothing there is really jumping out

987
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 2: at me.

988
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: I've also got code named The Cleaner starring Cedric the Entertainer,

989
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: finishing just outside of the top ten. So that is

990
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and one and should also mention the MTV

991
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve special the night before was co hosted

992
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: by Chamillionaire and Laguna Beach's own Steven Yes, tying it

993
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: all that to the solid verbal Stephen Coletti's ex girlfriend

994
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: has a car that blows up on the side of

995
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: the road, starts smoking, and what does she say? Toy Zo, Donezo,

996
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: done zo. All right, well we are donezo, shout out

997
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: christ and Cavalieri. With this show, our rewatch our reliving

998
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: our making peace with the two thousand and seven Tostitos

999
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl. Congratulations all these years later to Boise State

1000
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: Broncos on an incredible forty three to forty two win.

1001
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 1: We hope everyone out there is staying safe. Obviously these

1002
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: are very uncertain times. We do appreciate your time here

1003
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: with us as we talk about some great games from

1004
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: college football's past. I have really enjoyed doing this. Not

1005
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: only have I enjoyed doing this, one of my favorite

1006
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: parts of this is the PostScript. You mentioned a couple

1007
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: of things about where guys have gone on to play US.

1008
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: Eddian Johnson had a cup of coffee in the NFL.

1009
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: Who do you think wins the PostScript? Of all of

1010
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: these big personalities. We have head coaches Rustin Wilcox is

1011
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: at cal We have Brent Venables as a legendary defensive

1012
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: coordinator now at Clemson. We have all these guys who

1013
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: have gone on you know mentioned Orlando Scandric and Kyle

1014
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: Wilson as NFL players, and Chris Peterson now recently retiring

1015
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: after moving on to Washington. What is the most fascinating

1016
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: Who is the most victorious figure? PostScript? Because this game

1017
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: arguably cemented Big Game Bob. Maybe maybe for Bob study

1018
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: because he goes on to win a lot, but in

1019
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: those big games at Oklahoma getting killed by USC, which,

1020
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: by the way, who is the defensive coordinator that one

1021
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 1: year for Oklahoma against SC in the national championship, bopul o'calini. Yeah,

1022
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: fifty five fourteen, I believe. And just it happens year

1023
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: after year where Oklahoma seems to be in a good

1024
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: place and then they lose a huge game and just

1025
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: they can't quite get over the hump. They get to

1026
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: the playoff with Baker Mayfield, can't quite get there, and

1027
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: after losing two nowtional championships and then a festa bow

1028
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: against the whack champion, Big Game Bob sort of becomes

1029
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: cemented into Stone I think. Right, so I'm guessing that's

1030
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: your answer. I think it is. I think it's the

1031
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: most fascinating version. He's an XFL GM and head coach.

1032
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: Very briefly, yeah, very briefly. I don't know. As a beard,

1033
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: yeah I don't.

1034
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Bob Stoops is a good one and probably

1035
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: overlooked by many folks who think back to this game.

1036
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: I just keep coming back to Chris Peterson. This was

1037
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: Peterson's first year. He went in there, guns a blazing,

1038
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,959
Speaker 2: and if you're gonna win a game, if you're gonna

1039
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: do it in as dramatic a fashion as possible, this

1040
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 2: is the.

1041
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: Way to do it.

1042
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: And from that moment on, Chris Peterson was sort of

1043
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: a legend. You know, he was highly sought after a year. Yeah,

1044
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: he was highly sought after pretty much every year following

1045
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: that game, and not just by schools the size of

1046
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: Boise State, ones that were much much bigger. Eventually he

1047
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: does jump over to Washington. Now he's going to be

1048
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: working as more of an administrator. But Chris Peterson cemented

1049
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: his legacy in college football with this win.

1050
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: By the way, I watched this game alone in my apartment.

1051
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: I was roommates with Liney Fan Scott and West Coast Kevin.

1052
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: At the time. I had just come back from vacation,

1053
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: some sort of winter vacation. This was after my first

1054
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: season as the college football tour guide doing videos in

1055
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: the Pac ten at Tailgates. I come back from vacation,

1056
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm watching this game. I forget if I was in

1057
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: my room or if I was in the living room,

1058
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: and I don't remember. Also if Kevin was just passed

1059
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: out in his room sleeping, because this was in the

1060
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: West Coast, it wasn't that late, this was in La

1061
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: or if his then girlfriend now wife was with him

1062
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to interrupt them, so I was

1063
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: not screaming. I was doing, like you know what a

1064
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: silent scream is like, Sometimes you get a shot and

1065
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: you get so much pain, you got the doctors, or

1066
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: you just sort of yelp and don't make any noises,

1067
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: your face turns red. That's what I was doing as

1068
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: I watched this game, not wanting to wake up or

1069
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: disturb potentially a sexy time for West Coast Kevin. And

1070
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: so that's what I was doing, silently yelling as this

1071
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: game unfolded.

1072
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: At the end, all right, well, fun, fun show. Thank

1073
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: you again for giving us so much of your time.

1074
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: Hope you're out there, Hope you're staying safe. We've both

1075
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: enjoyed doing this. So we'll have to go back in

1076
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: the lab and figure out if there are any other

1077
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: games that have been requested by the verball er hood.

1078
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: Yes, by all means.

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01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: If you want to reach out on social media or

1080
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: at Cliverble at gmail dot com and let us know

1081
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 2: what games we should try to cover next. Ord knows

1082
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: we've got plenty of time and an infinite number of possibilities.

1083
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: We've done four of them now. Each one has been

1084
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: more exciting than the last. So if you're cool with it, Dan,

1085
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: we can keep doing this for a few more weeks.

1086
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: They're not playing any games this weekend, are they? I

1087
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: don't think so. All we said is on our Instagram

1088
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: live feed, which, by the way, follow just solid verbal

1089
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: on Instagram or Twitter or whatever you want. It has

1090
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: to be from the nineties. We've done early two thousands,

1091
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: we've done mid two thousands. We sort of focused on

1092
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: either just into the solidverbal tenure or just before leading

1093
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: up to the solidverbal tenure that started in two thousand

1094
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: and eight. We want a game that is a fascinating, interesting,

1095
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: wild rewatch from the nineties. So if you could suggest

1096
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: that either Twitter, email, soliverble at gmail, dot com, Reddit,

1097
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: any of those places, we will see it from the

1098
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties. The next one of these shows we do.

1099
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: That's where we want to focus on what it has

1100
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: to be four x three. We got to do standard

1101
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: deft for this next one. All right, Well, Daniel, it's

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01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: been a pleasure talking to you. As always, we will

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01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: reconvene in a week. In the meantime, you stay safe

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01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: out there, okay, thank you very much. You do the

1105
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: same for my good friend.

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01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: Dan Rubenstein out there on the West coast, for myself,

1107
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 2: Ty hilden Brand all the way over here back east.

1108
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: We will catch you all week. In the meantime, stay

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01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: solid face.