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Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Let's honor the fallen

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Speaker 2: on a Memorial Day. It is Monday, it is Memorial Day,

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Speaker 2: and today is a day where we dedicate the entire

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Speaker 2: show to the people who died in service of this country.

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Speaker 2: We are going to talk about combat history. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to read citations, distinguished Service, cross and Medal of Honor,

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk some Korea. We'll talk some Vietnam, some

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Speaker 2: Global War on tear, maybe even some World War Two.

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Speaker 2: We have more names than I may be able to

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Speaker 2: get to in the show of names you emailed in,

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Speaker 2: of people you want honored, and I'm going to try

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Speaker 2: to chop away at all that. But this is not

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Speaker 2: like our normal shows, as you can probably already tell,

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Speaker 3: There won't be any of that today.

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Speaker 2: I may play some comments from Trump or Vans or

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Speaker 2: heg Setch, just because they had some wonderful things to say.

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to make sure you knew as a reminder,

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Speaker 2: maybe even this is your first time tuning in.

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Speaker 3: That today is a sacred day. I believe it's sacred.

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Speaker 2: We believe we have a responsibility here on this show

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Speaker 2: to honor those who gave their lives for this country

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Speaker 2: on this day. And so that's why we come in.

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Speaker 2: We do a special Memorial Day show. There won't be

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Speaker 2: any ads, well, I mean, there'll be commercial breaks, but

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Speaker 2: there won't be any live reads. There'll be nothing but

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Speaker 2: history and honoring the fallen. And if I may really quickly,

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Speaker 2: I want to speak to the families, the families who

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Speaker 2: may be hurting today. In fact, Trump actually had something

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Speaker 4: The families of the fallen. You feel the absence of

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Speaker 4: your heroes every day, and the family. He's a great families,

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Speaker 4: He's a wonderful families in the familiar laugh no longer heard,

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Speaker 4: the empty space at Sunday dinner, or the want of

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Speaker 4: never come again. Every goal Star family fights a battle

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Speaker 4: long after the victory is won. And today we lift

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Speaker 4: you up and we hold you high. Thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 4: thank you for giving America the brightest light in your lives.

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Speaker 4: It's what you've done. We will never ever forget our

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you if you're one of

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Speaker 2: those family members, and I know we have many gold

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Speaker 2: Star families. Listened to the show because you know, I heard,

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Speaker 2: for the longest time in my life, I had heard

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Speaker 2: people say around different holidays, like Christmas for example, that

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Speaker 2: this day, please remember, this day can be heavy for people.

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Speaker 2: And I'll be frank with you, I got what they

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Speaker 2: Actually I didn't fully realize what they were talking about

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Speaker 2: until this past Christmas when my father was gone, and

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Speaker 2: my dad. Memorial Day to people who have lost a

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Speaker 2: family member or a close friend. Yes, it's a day

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Speaker 2: where people gather and celebrate, but this is a painful,

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Speaker 2: because it is a reminder of what you gave up,

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Speaker 2: of what the person you lost gave up, and what

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Speaker 2: And that hurts, and for them who gave their lives.

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Speaker 2: It's been said before by others, but I'll say I'll

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Speaker 3: They don't get to do that.

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Speaker 2: If you are one of those family members today or

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Speaker 2: prayers of the Jesse Kelly Show family, all of us here,

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Speaker 2: heads up as to how this show is going to run.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a lot of war history. I'm kind

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Speaker 2: give up their lives for. We're gonna read some Distinguished

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Speaker 2: Service cross citations tonight, Vietnam.

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Speaker 3: Korea, Global War on Terror, other things.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Chris, Chris is warning me about the volume of

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Speaker 2: names we have. Remember I told you to email in

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Speaker 2: the names of the fallen, name, rank, and conflict because

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Speaker 2: we want to try to read all them on air

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Speaker 3: There are a lot.

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Speaker 2: The show has grown quite a bit over the six

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Speaker 2: The emails like this, Jesse, my great uncle, Melvin Thomas Wyndham,

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Speaker 2: my grandfather, told me his body finally made it back

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Speaker 2: mowing and clipping around the headstones and placing the American

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Speaker 2: And there were several other men in my high school

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Speaker 2: Smith are who we're going to honor today. Now let's

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Speaker 2: World War two, it's a very fascinating time in the world.

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Speaker 2: Just think for a moment what the world is going through.

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly.

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Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful

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Speaker 2: Memorial Day.

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Speaker 3: As we sit.

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Speaker 2: Here and we talk about the conflicts and the men

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Speaker 2: We're figuring out what's going on. But in Korea they've

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Speaker 2: and I said that to say this.

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Speaker 2: Men, especially men who are getting older and grayer like

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Speaker 3: Ever.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that there's ever anything that happened that

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Speaker 3: In the world. When it hurts like.

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Speaker 2: That, once, to make sure it's very common. Once to

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Speaker 2: You know how many times have you heard you know,

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Speaker 2: it's not just a post Holocaust rallying cry for Jewish people,

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Speaker 2: never again. You know, that's a rallying cry very common.

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Speaker 2: That's a common rallying crime for human beings whenever they

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Speaker 2: As we ventured into North Korea, our military units, Army

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Speaker 2: of Distinguished Service Cross citations, shall we. This is for

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Speaker 2: It's a dangerous thing. It's not a safe thing. Don't

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Speaker 2: If you're pulling guys out of tanks and getting shot

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Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly, it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a

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Speaker 2: Memorial Day, talking a little bit of Korea. Now doing

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Speaker 2: became a battle for survival. We were up there thinking

436
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Speaker 2: we were going to invade, and really reality we were

437
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Speaker 2: being surrounded, outnumbered, beyond belief in this frozen mountainous area.

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Speaker 2: It became a battle for mountain tops, hilltops, I should

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Speaker 2: say frozen hilltops. You have to grab them, you have

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Speaker 2: to hold them, and you have to know that the

441
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Speaker 2: Chinese will be coming in waves. And the Korean War

442
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Speaker 2: is one of the wars where you constantly read stories

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Speaker 2: about guys who are dug in. Let's say they're in

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00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 2: a defensive perimeter, they're dug in, and the Chinese start

445
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Speaker 2: blowing whistles. That's how they signaled things, That's how they

446
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: that's how they communicated for the most part, blowing horns

447
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Speaker 2: and whistles. Imagine it's the middle of the night, it's

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Speaker 2: thirty below zero. You're on a hilltop, dug in freezing.

449
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Speaker 2: You can't fill your hands with your friends, and the

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Speaker 2: horns start blaring and the whistles start going, and somebody

451
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: shoots off a flare, and like a scene out of

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Speaker 2: a freaking horror movie, you look down and there are

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Speaker 2: thousands of Chinese running up the hill with guns and

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Speaker 2: bayonets to kill you and all of your friends. You

455
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Speaker 2: start killing them as fast as you possibly can.

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Speaker 3: They're landing in.

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Speaker 2: Your trench with you your hand to hand fighting, and

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Speaker 2: at one point they get.

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Speaker 3: Through your lines.

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Speaker 2: This happened all the time in Korea because there were

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Speaker 2: so many of them. They get through your lines. So

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00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: you have to do the unthinkable and grab your weapon

463
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Speaker 2: and turn it around and fire inside of your lines

464
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Speaker 2: because there are Chinese troops all over the place, and

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Speaker 2: you find yourself praying to God as I have watched,

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Speaker 2: In fact, I watched this in a documentary as I

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Speaker 2: watch Korean War veteran describe he prayed to God as

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Speaker 2: they were all around him dying, his friends dying, then dying,

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Speaker 2: and all he prayed was God, let me see the sun.

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Speaker 2: One more time.

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Speaker 3: Then we read citations like this for A.

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Speaker 2: Joseph T. O'Donnell from Kings, New York. The President of

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Speaker 2: the United States takes pride in presenting the Distinguished Service

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Speaker 2: Cross posthumously to Joseph T. O'Donnell, first Lieutenant Infantry, US Army,

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Speaker 2: for extraordinary heroism in connection with military operations against an

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Speaker 2: armed enemy of the United Nations. While serving with Company A,

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Speaker 2: first Battalion, thirty eighth Infantry Regiment, second Infantry Division, First

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Speaker 2: Lieutenant O'Donnell distinguished himself by extraordinary heroism and action against

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Speaker 2: enemy aggressive forces at Mundungni, Korea, on the thirteenth of

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Speaker 2: October nineteen fifty one. On that date, Company A launched

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Speaker 2: an assault on a strategic hill strongly defended by a

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Speaker 2: determined enemy. Lieutenant O'Donnell led his platoon until they were

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Speaker 2: halted by a heavy barrage of enemy small arms and

484
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Speaker 2: mortar fire. Unhesitatingly and with complete indifference to the intense fire,

485
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Speaker 2: he placed himself at the head of his platoon and

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Speaker 2: led them at a renewed assault, during which he charged

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Speaker 2: and destroyed an enemy position and killed its occupants with

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Speaker 2: his rifle and grenades. Although wounded by an enemy grenade,

489
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: he continued to lead his men in the attack. Knocked

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Speaker 2: down by a second grenade, he immediately arose again and

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Speaker 2: continued to direct his men in the assault. In the

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Speaker 2: patoon's final charge, he was fatally wounded by mortar fragments.

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Speaker 2: His bravery and spirited leadership were an inspiration to all

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Speaker 2: who witnessed his actions and contribute immeasurably in the success

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Speaker 2: of successful completion of the mission. Let me pause for

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Speaker 2: another moment and read some names of the ones that

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Speaker 2: got sent in. I haven't read any yetnam way behind

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Speaker 2: some miscellaneous conflicts, so I'll name the conflict the others.

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Speaker 2: I'll do it by it in the name of the conflict.

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Speaker 2: Specialist Jerry Daves, Panama or Davies.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Private first Class Martian Denson, Panama. Corporal Richard Villa Hermosa

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Speaker 2: via Hermosa, probably Panama. This is this one's called blue

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Speaker 2: on blue. That would be friendly fire. That's very, very

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Speaker 2: common in combat. I just said, sometimes you have to

506
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Speaker 2: turn your weapon around and sometimes accidents happen. It's very common.

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Speaker 2: It's no less heroic. Sergeant Carson Holme Quist terrorist attack

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Speaker 2: that one in Chattanooga. Airman Trevor Mackie Training Accident Lance

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Speaker 2: Corporal George Dramas Berroot. These two are from the Revolutionary

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Speaker 2: War Stephen Crosby both captains Captain Stephen Crosby, Captain Herman

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Speaker 2: Cummings Senior. These are from the Civil War. Private La

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Speaker 2: Lafayette Bray Civil War, Tim Perkins Civil War, Riley Perkins

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Speaker 2: Civil War, Robert mcmhnmon Civil War.

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Speaker 3: These are from World War Two.

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Speaker 2: Private William Moore, Private Abner Spear, Private Rgie Axford, Private

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Speaker 2: William Buell. This is from World War two Staff Sergeant

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Speaker 2: Salvatore Luciano, Private Gale Charles Staff, Sergeant Virfrail Brown, Corporal

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Speaker 2: Leo Foursier, Corporal Edwin Wurtz, Major Jack Mathis, Private Alton Cook,

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Speaker 2: Staff Sergeant Elmer Hessman, Staff Sergeant Bobby Midwerry, Sergeant Roy

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00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: good Paster, junior tor pedeman's mate for one, James Jones,

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Speaker 2: Private Joseph Lesse, Captain Charles Tinley, Technician five rankin Kellogg

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Speaker 2: Clayton or the Gunner's mate, First Class Clayton New and

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Speaker 2: drop and we'll get to more and just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I want to get to more of these Dissinguler Service

525
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Speaker 2: Cross citations. President of the United States takes pride in

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Speaker 2: presenting the Distinguished Service Cross posthumously to George Andrew Davis,

527
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Speaker 2: Junior Major, US Air Force, for extraordinary heroism in connection

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Speaker 2: with military operations against an armed enemy of the United

529
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Speaker 2: Nations while serving as commander of the three hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty fourth Fighter Interceptor Squadron, fourth Fighter Interceptor Wing, fifth

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Speaker 2: Air Force, on the twenty seventh of November nineteen fifty one,

532
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Speaker 2: during an engagement with an enemy aircraft near Sinninju, Korea.

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Speaker 2: While leading a group formation of thirty two F eighty

534
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Speaker 2: six aircraft on counter air mission, Major Davis observed six

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Speaker 2: MiG fifteen aircraft heading southward above the group. With exemplary

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00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: leadership and superior airmanship, he maneuvered his forces into position

537
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: for the attack. Leading with great tactical skill and courage.

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Speaker 2: Major Davis closed to eight hundred feet on a Mini

539
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Speaker 2: fifteen over Namsi, and he fired on the enemy aircraft,

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00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: which immediately began burning. A few seconds later, the enemy

541
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: pilot bailed out of his aircraft, continuing the attack on

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00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: the enemy forces, Major Davis fired on the wingmen of

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Speaker 2: the enemy flight, which resulted in numerous strikes on wing

544
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Speaker 2: roots and the fuselage. As Mayor Davis broke off his

545
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: relentless attack on this MiG fifteen, another MiG fifteen came

546
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: down on him. He immediately brought his aircraft into firing

547
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: position upon the enemy, and after a sustained barrage of fire,

548
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: the enemy pilot bailed out.

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Speaker 3: Although low on fuel.

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Speaker 2: He rejoined his group and reorganized his forces to engage

551
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Speaker 2: the approximate eighty enemy aircraft. Making the attack against overwhelming odds.

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Speaker 2: Major Davis group destroyed two other MiG fifteens, probably destroyed

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Speaker 2: one and damaged one other.

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Speaker 3: We continue next