WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Our Blessed Saint Poochie

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of

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<v Speaker 1>My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener mail. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're uh. I guess this is our first batch

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<v Speaker 1>of from the mail bag since the holiday. Yeah, how

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<v Speaker 1>was your holiday, Joe? Oh? It was good? That was yours?

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was good, laid back, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to got to do a lot more miniature painting

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<v Speaker 1>than usual. I got to do a little uh writing,

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<v Speaker 1>just for fun. So that was nice. What what miniatures

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<v Speaker 1>did you paint? Let's see? I did? Oh? I did

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<v Speaker 1>uh three cpo and R two D two three cpo?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that like? I'm sorry? R two and cpo? What

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<v Speaker 1>is it? What's you go with to Jordan's names? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I love uh yeah, no, I painted those guys up.

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<v Speaker 1>I got those for Christmas as a gift, along with

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<v Speaker 1>their little pot that they land in. Oh that's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Well are you ready to jump right into these messages?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. What do we got? What is the

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<v Speaker 1>mail bot Carney you have for us today? It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like this first one is about our episode on holiday Inventions.

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<v Speaker 1>I think these were mostly inventions related to Christmas trees.

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<v Speaker 1>This comes from Brett. Brett says, Hello, gentlemen, I was

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<v Speaker 1>recently listening to your Holiday Inventions episode when you were

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<v Speaker 1>discussing a particular antique tree ornament. It was one that

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<v Speaker 1>bubbled when it got warm from a light. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was Joe who mentioned that it was filled with

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<v Speaker 1>methylene chloride. This got my attention. As an organic chemist,

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<v Speaker 1>we use methylene chloride or dichloro methane d c M daily.

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<v Speaker 1>D c M is an ideal solvent for many organic compounds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's volatility and hence low boiling point and ability to

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<v Speaker 1>dissolve many organic compounds make readily make it ideal for

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<v Speaker 1>our line of work. To help convince ourselves that we

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<v Speaker 1>were able to synthesize a desired compound, we used instruments

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<v Speaker 1>such as nuclear magnetic resonance or n MR to help

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<v Speaker 1>determine a structure's identity. D c M easily is removed

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<v Speaker 1>under reduced pressure under vacuum, therefore reducing the probability of

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<v Speaker 1>contaminating and maybe maybe overlapping with the desired peak. D

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<v Speaker 1>c M feels very cool when it touches your glove

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<v Speaker 1>quickly penetrating it and entering through the skin, providing a

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<v Speaker 1>tingling sensation that we try not to let this happen.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I find amazing of a solvent such as

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<v Speaker 1>d c M is its weight. Having two chlorine atoms

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<v Speaker 1>attached to a carbon center. You can feel the weight

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<v Speaker 1>difference compared to something like isopropanol per volume, and an

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<v Speaker 1>even heavier solvent that is closely related is chloroform basically

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<v Speaker 1>d c M with an extra chlorine, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>really feel the effect of the extra chlorine. Uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>effect of one atom difference. It always fascinates me where

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation will go during your episodes Organic synthesis during

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<v Speaker 1>Holiday Inventions episode why Not. That is the power of

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<v Speaker 1>words and thought. Thank you as always for providing such

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<v Speaker 1>thought provoking content. Happy holidays, Brett, Well, thanks for getting

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<v Speaker 1>in touch Brett. The power of words and thought. I

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<v Speaker 1>have never thought to uh to summarize our ideology that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's what it is. We just follow the words

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<v Speaker 1>and the thought. But yeah, I appreciate hearing from Brett. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>This this listener knows their chemistry. This, this was a

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<v Speaker 1>delightful email. All right, here's another one. This one comes

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<v Speaker 1>to us from Kate and it goes as follows. Dear

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<v Speaker 1>Robert and Joe, I just finished listening to your episode

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<v Speaker 1>on heavy water, and I was really excited to hear

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<v Speaker 1>you mention the kinetic isotope effect. I am a research

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<v Speaker 1>scientist and our lab uses D two oh frequently um

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<v Speaker 1>in our study of enzyme mechanics. One of the truly

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<v Speaker 1>amazing aspects of the enzyme chemistry is the coupling of

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<v Speaker 1>the movements of electrons and protons hydrogen adam without their electrons.

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<v Speaker 1>The coupling has the effect of lowering the activation energy

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<v Speaker 1>of key steps, helping reactions occur faster and more efficiently.

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<v Speaker 1>By observing enzyme turnover in H two O and D

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<v Speaker 1>two oh, this kind of coupling can be identified. This

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<v Speaker 1>work is highly relevant both to biochemical research and to

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<v Speaker 1>the design of new catalysts. Right now, chemists are working

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<v Speaker 1>on engineering this kind of step into synthetic catalysts, and

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<v Speaker 1>understanding how enzymes work helps guide their work. Our lab

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<v Speaker 1>also uses aqua regia as we do work with nanoparticles

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and acquareggia is the only thing that will

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<v Speaker 1>clean our glassware. So this episode hit, a hit a

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<v Speaker 1>double when it comes to my lab experience. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>all the fun and informative episodes. You guys keep me

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<v Speaker 1>company when I am doing the routine upkeep of laboratory life.

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<v Speaker 1>All the best, kate ps. You guys should think about

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<v Speaker 1>doing an episode on gold nanoparticles. They have really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>modern applications as well as a fascinating historical aspect. The

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<v Speaker 1>red color in some stained class was prepared from a

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<v Speaker 1>mix of gold salts and tannic acid, which it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out is a way to make nano clusters of gold

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<v Speaker 1>that I used in my graduate work. Interesting listeners. Bringing

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<v Speaker 1>the chemistry today, bringing the gold as Yeah, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember if we've done it as a designated

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<v Speaker 1>episode on gold before. It seems like we should have.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we did and I forgot it, but either way,

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<v Speaker 1>we should do it. I mean, the show has been

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<v Speaker 1>going a long time, but uh yeah, I often wonder

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<v Speaker 1>when I wanted to do a new episode, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>was this done like eight years ago or something that

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<v Speaker 1>would be hard to figure out. It doesn't even matter

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<v Speaker 1>if it was done eight years ago. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like there's gonna be enough new stuff to cover. That's

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<v Speaker 1>always my approach. It's like, if we did it before,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably worth doing again because either there's new science,

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<v Speaker 1>there are new wrinkles, there's stuff that we didn't find before. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's it's similar to the whole situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember early on, when these podcasts were just starting out

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<v Speaker 1>under the house Stuff Works banner, everyone was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>hyper alert to, oh, should we cover this subject because

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you should know just did this subject, or history

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<v Speaker 1>did just did this subject. And it took a while

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone to realize, of course, we're gonna cover subjects

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<v Speaker 1>that other people have covered. Sometimes we're gonna hit the

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<v Speaker 1>lotto and they're gonna publish in the same week without

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<v Speaker 1>anybody knowing about them. But everybody's gonna bring their own

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<v Speaker 1>men to the to the information. You know, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find different areas to focus on and have different um,

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<v Speaker 1>different side thoughts on what they're discussing. Yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's happened to us before, where we published an episode

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<v Speaker 1>on something the same week that Josh and Chuck did,

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<v Speaker 1>and then people ask us, did you do this on purpose?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would we do that on purpose? Now we just

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't know what the other shows are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't like share calendars or anything, but we should

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<v Speaker 1>win something when we line up like that. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>next message is about fingernails. It comes from Brent. Brent says, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert and Joe. First of all, I love the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to it instantly while working on art projects,

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<v Speaker 1>doing chores, playing video games, are just driving around. I

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<v Speaker 1>find every topic fascinating and love to learn new things

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<v Speaker 1>from you guys every day. You're both a delight to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to. Thank you brand if I remember correctly. In

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<v Speaker 1>one of the Fingernail episodes, Robert mentioned the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>a superhero who uses their fingernails as a way of

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<v Speaker 1>measuring how much they have used their powers. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have an example of a hero. I do have

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<v Speaker 1>an example of a villain. And uh, brannan, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, correct me if I'm wrong. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>was not in original Fingernail episodes, but it was in.

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<v Speaker 1>It was response to another listener mail that brought up

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<v Speaker 1>a story from Uh. I believe it was from Maori

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<v Speaker 1>legend about a god or a figure who uses their

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<v Speaker 1>fingernails to to keep a fire going. Yes, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just said, well, that would be a great sort

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<v Speaker 1>of visual um thing to work with in a a

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<v Speaker 1>in a modern superhero tale. Yeah yeah, so BRN goes

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<v Speaker 1>on and says, warning, your nail trauma ahead. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like one paragraph. I was recently reading a Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>manga called Chainsaw Man, and in one of the story arcs,

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<v Speaker 1>a villain appears who has made a pact with a

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<v Speaker 1>demon for every time she wants to use the power

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<v Speaker 1>of the demon, she must sacrifice one fingernail. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was very interesting to have the limitations of a

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<v Speaker 1>power be the amount of fingernails you have and the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time it would take for them to grow back.

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<v Speaker 1>This character isn't a very prominent one, but the moment

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<v Speaker 1>I saw her, I thought of your show anyway, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for all you do, Brent. Interesting. I gotta look

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<v Speaker 1>up Chainsaw Man. I'm hooked by the title alone. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I'm assuming it's like Chainsaw Man has like

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<v Speaker 1>some chainsaw attributes. But the vision of it that I

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<v Speaker 1>would I would hope for one that I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I would idly think about in the past was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you had a person or an entity that

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<v Speaker 1>was made entirely out of chainsaws, but not not the

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<v Speaker 1>like engine of the chainsaw, but just like the intangible

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<v Speaker 1>nous of the chainsaw, you know, like there's something to

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<v Speaker 1>it chainsaw that is beyond like any specific part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is just like the roaring gears of the thing. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>in like a gnostic sense the same way, how like

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<v Speaker 1>God can have different emanations of qualities that are themselves

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<v Speaker 1>creators of planes of existence, the chainsaw can produce divine emanations.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's like a quality of chainsaw nests that is

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<v Speaker 1>its own deity. And I gotta say, I just looked

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<v Speaker 1>up chainsaw Man, and what I like about chainsaw Man,

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<v Speaker 1>having never seen him before, is he doesn't just have

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<v Speaker 1>chainsaws for hands. He also has a chainsaw for a head.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good touch. Oh, I'm looking at it now

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And yes, this is solid. I approved this message.

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<v Speaker 1>If it had just been hands, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been with it. But the head, the

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<v Speaker 1>head thing seals the deal. Yeah. All right, here's another

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<v Speaker 1>one for us. This one comes to us from Raphael

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<v Speaker 1>and it has to do with our episodes on Spinning.

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<v Speaker 1>Dear Robert and Joe, thank you for your amazing podcast

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<v Speaker 1>every week. I look for to your unique discussions connecting science, culture,

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<v Speaker 1>and history. As a professional scientists, maintaining my sense of

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<v Speaker 1>wondering curiosity about the world is very important in my career,

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<v Speaker 1>and you help stretch the boundaries of my imagination far

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<v Speaker 1>outside my area of expertise. After listening for several years,

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<v Speaker 1>I am finally taking the plunge on writing in after

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<v Speaker 1>Robert's call for comments on the utility of spinning in

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<v Speaker 1>combat situations. My wife and I have participated in combat

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<v Speaker 1>sports or practice martial arts for most of our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Though having trained with truly dedicated professional instructors and Olympic medalists,

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<v Speaker 1>we cannot think of ourselves as anything more than enthusiastic amateurs.

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<v Speaker 1>What perspective I cannot offer you in depth I can

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<v Speaker 1>offer you in breadth of experience. I ask your question

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<v Speaker 1>about spinning in combat on our weekly Zoom call with

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<v Speaker 1>two of our close friends who are also experienced martial artists.

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<v Speaker 1>Between the four of us, we have seventy plus years

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<v Speaker 1>of experience across a diverse set of martial arts and

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<v Speaker 1>combat sports. Initial reactions to the idea of spinning strikes

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<v Speaker 1>and combat were mixed too incredulous. After some discussion, our

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<v Speaker 1>general consensus was that spinning does have combat utility, but

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<v Speaker 1>not in the ways presented in many films and video games.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I get much further, I will point out something

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<v Speaker 1>that may seem obvious when evaluating anything in martial arts

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<v Speaker 1>or self defense. The effectiveness of any particular technique is

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<v Speaker 1>always dependent on the specific context in which it is used.

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<v Speaker 1>Particularly in martial arts and sports that includes competitive sparring. UH,

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<v Speaker 1>the rules and restrictions in place for safety and that

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<v Speaker 1>define the scoring system will heavily influence the combat style

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<v Speaker 1>and what is considered to be effective. This is certainly

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<v Speaker 1>the case in competition taekwondo, which seems like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the modern martial arts that employs the most spinning strikes. Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>even modern m m A includes rules that prohibit many

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<v Speaker 1>of the most effective and damaging attacks that would in

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<v Speaker 1>reality be the best survival options in a lethal self

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<v Speaker 1>defense situation. Modern combat sports also generally prohibit the best

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<v Speaker 1>self defense techniques of all running away as fast as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be interesting if that was always an option,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right, if that was like a strategy you

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<v Speaker 1>could deploy in the ring yeah, Oh he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying the runaway. I don't know how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>But back to the outcome of our conversation, we all

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<v Speaker 1>agree that that full spinning strikes used at longer fighting

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<v Speaker 1>distances the kind of moves you mentioned on the show

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<v Speaker 1>are a pretty bad idea. In most one on one combat,

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<v Speaker 1>spinning punches and kicks can generate significant power, but require

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<v Speaker 1>you to sacrifice balance, stable footing, and present your back.

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<v Speaker 1>If initiated at standard kicking and punching ranges, they are

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<v Speaker 1>easily anticipated and therefore countered. Spinning kicks in particular, also

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<v Speaker 1>require a high level of skill, athleticism, and flexibility. A

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<v Speaker 1>martial artist can achieve the same level of striking power

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<v Speaker 1>with none of the drawbacks using half turns instead of

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<v Speaker 1>full rotations. Many attacks that appear to be spins are

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<v Speaker 1>actually multiple half turned strikes in sequence. There are situations,

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<v Speaker 1>such as the one represented in the video of Joaquin

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<v Speaker 1>Buckley's competition knockout kick, where a spinning move can help

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<v Speaker 1>you escape a bad situation or attack from an unexpected angle.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone with sufficient skill might use spinning strikes effectively in

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<v Speaker 1>the right circumstances, but such instances seem like exceptions that

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<v Speaker 1>prove the rule, and they go onto to share some

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<v Speaker 1>more details that we don't have time to get into here,

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<v Speaker 1>but basically getting into say spotting techniques that are a

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<v Speaker 1>part of everyday training exercises, just how you how you

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<v Speaker 1>utilize a spin, But they continue quote everyone also agreed

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<v Speaker 1>spins are very useful in multiple attack or situations. When

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<v Speaker 1>facing multiple opponents, it is all about maintaining mobility and

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<v Speaker 1>preventing yourself from being overwhelmed. Spins are a useful way

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<v Speaker 1>to dodge, reorient in a new direction, and quickly spot

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<v Speaker 1>other opponents or escape opportunities. If you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>this in action, just watch a basketball, American football, or

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<v Speaker 1>rugby game. Spins are frequently employed to break past opponents

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<v Speaker 1>or dodge tackles. The utility of spinning to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>multiple attackers applies to armed as well as on armed combat.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the katana and short staff exercises I know

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<v Speaker 1>include spinning footwork based on the assumption that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to quickly reient to deal with armed attackers from multiple directions.

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<v Speaker 1>The closest thing to a Tasmanian Devil style spin is

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<v Speaker 1>a stationary three sixty degree spin combined with a horizontal

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<v Speaker 1>sword slash performed at the very end of some sword kata.

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<v Speaker 1>My understanding is that this is not meant as any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of directed attack. Rather, you are checking every direction

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<v Speaker 1>for new opponents after you think you have defeated your

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<v Speaker 1>initial attackers. The sword slash is meant to give any

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<v Speaker 1>new attack or a reason to pause and maybe by yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>a potentially life saving moment. In the end, we concluded

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<v Speaker 1>that the obvious athleticism and easily visualized nature of spinning

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<v Speaker 1>punches and kicks is the reason that we see so

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<v Speaker 1>many of them in movies and video games. Just like

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<v Speaker 1>the reverse grip use on long blades and punching armored

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<v Speaker 1>opponents with unprediccted fists, spinning strikes are dramatic and fun

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<v Speaker 1>to watch, but probably best left on the screen anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope this email provides a useful perspective. Our group

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<v Speaker 1>certainly had fun discussing the topic. Thanks for all your

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<v Speaker 1>great episodes, Raphael. Wow that was some depth, Rafael. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was great And like I said, we didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>have time to read all of that one but on

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<v Speaker 1>the show here. But yeah, I greatly appreciate folks chiming

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<v Speaker 1>in with their expertise, in this case dealing with spinning

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<v Speaker 1>in combat. All right, this next message comes to us

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<v Speaker 1>from Pearl, also about spinning. Pearl says, Hi, Robert and Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>in your episodes about spinning, you mentioned spinning in ballet

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<v Speaker 1>and separately, the feeling of being entranced as a spectator

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<v Speaker 1>of spinning persons, especially the Sufi dervishes. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up a famous piece of ballet spinning lore that

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<v Speaker 1>will bridge these two ideas, where the trance state induced

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<v Speaker 1>by watching someone spin actually moves the story forward. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also explored in Aronofsky's Black Swan, but since the whole

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<v Speaker 1>film is one long, bad trip, this particular bit of

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<v Speaker 1>psychedelic spinning gets lost in the mix. In the classical

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<v Speaker 1>ballet Swan Lake, a crucial moment in the story comes

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the second act, when the deceptive

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<v Speaker 1>black Swan o'deal secures the devotion of Prince Siegfried. She

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<v Speaker 1>accomplishes this by executing a series of consecutive whirling movements

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<v Speaker 1>on point over the course of thirty two counts of

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<v Speaker 1>feverish music, known as the Black Swan coda at the

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<v Speaker 1>rate of at least one spin per count. In modern productions,

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<v Speaker 1>this almost always comes in the form of thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>fuette turns French for whip, a type of pirouet in

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<v Speaker 1>which one leg is extended out to the side and

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<v Speaker 1>pulled back into the body, quickly creating the force necessary

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<v Speaker 1>to whip the body around on its axis. This movement

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<v Speaker 1>is done without ever placing the working leg, the one

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<v Speaker 1>doing the whipping motion, back down on the ground, enabling

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<v Speaker 1>the dancer to execute many more turns than would otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>be possible within the same amount of music. The Prince

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<v Speaker 1>and the audience is so entranced by the spinning that

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<v Speaker 1>all doubts about o'deal are dispelled, and he commits his

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<v Speaker 1>heart to her, now actually believing that she and the

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<v Speaker 1>white Swan odette are one and the same. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>how many enchanted mutant swan women could there possibly be

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<v Speaker 1>within one forest. The same idea has been used in

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<v Speaker 1>other ballets, and super quick, super athletic pirouetts are standard

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<v Speaker 1>practice for today's dancers, but watching the Black Swan coda

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<v Speaker 1>is still a mind altering experience, even for seasoned patrons

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<v Speaker 1>of the art form. I tried and failed to keep

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<v Speaker 1>this letter short. Ballet is a world full of weird,

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<v Speaker 1>morbid fairy tales and bizarre physical feats that need a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of explaining. My personal connection is that I've been

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<v Speaker 1>dancing ballet as a hobby since age three, including several

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<v Speaker 1>years on point. That's almost three decades, and I'm still fascinated.

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<v Speaker 1>Love the show Pearl and then Pearl attaches a video

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<v Speaker 1>that we can watch. Very cool. Yeah, in this video,

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<v Speaker 1>the turns got us on and on. It's unbelievable. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>here's another one for us. This is perfect because it

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<v Speaker 1>also deals with Russian storytelling. This one concerns the Leshy.

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<v Speaker 1>Dear Robert and Joe, I hope you're enjoying the holiday season.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a tremendous fan of your show. The first episode

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<v Speaker 1>I ever listened to was about Jupiter's Moons a few

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<v Speaker 1>years back. I was hooked after that. I so enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>the episode about the leshy. It inspired my husband and

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<v Speaker 1>I to watch the folk tale season of The Storyteller

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<v Speaker 1>so great I waited until closer to Christmas to check

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<v Speaker 1>out the Russian movie you mentioned. Frosty a k a.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack frost a k a Morozko. This movie is a trip.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure what to make of it at first,

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<v Speaker 1>but the more it sinks in, the more I realized.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this movie. It is so colorful and imaginative.

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<v Speaker 1>The characters, songs, costumes, and effects are also great. I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely recommend the original Russian movie with English subtitles. Dubbing

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<v Speaker 1>just won't do, as you won't get to hear the

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<v Speaker 1>tiny soft voice of Nastia or um Ivanusca's hey Ulus.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I'm saying that right. Uluiyu song. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Yaga kills it with her costume and crazy faces

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<v Speaker 1>and laughs. Father Frost costume is out of this world.

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<v Speaker 1>The step Sister and Uh and the Quarter are also hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>I think some may not understand this movie, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you think of it as a Wizard of Oz or

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<v Speaker 1>Alison Wonderland from another culture, it makes sense. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of my new Winter classics. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>often think of the the Lesti story about the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who brought the Lessie to a wedding as a guest,

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<v Speaker 1>so ridiculous. I cracked myself up just thinking about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a good one. That was It's just I

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<v Speaker 1>love the the weirdness of so many of those tales.

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<v Speaker 1>And and again, uh, if anyone's interested to go back,

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned the author who has compiled so many of

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<v Speaker 1>these stories, and that book was tremendous. Anyway, continue, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for the wonderful podcast. It has

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<v Speaker 1>ignited so many fun adventures and explorations for me. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have the best podcast voices just saying happy holidays,

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<v Speaker 1>Leslie in Seattle, illegal flattery. Well, I'm glad you enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Frost, because again, it is a beautiful movie. Most,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, well maybe not most, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people in the US are probably only familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>it from Mystery Sense Theater three thousand. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>in and of itself just a beautifully made film with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of wonderful stuff in it. So um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend folks check it out during the winter months.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. Yeah, Um, it is both funny but also uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if if you put yourself in the right

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<v Speaker 1>mindset and experience it as a as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>fresh fallen snow, you know, like it's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>a new babe in the world. It's it's quite wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>not a princess, a queen and Leslie thank you, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>far too kind. I thought maybe we should wrap up

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<v Speaker 1>here with a question that may be relevant, because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine we will stop using this point of comparison

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<v Speaker 1>as we go on. So Taylor, writing in about Weird

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<v Speaker 1>How Cinema, Taylor says, hey, Rob and Joe Taylor from

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<v Speaker 1>Salt Lake here with a simple question, could you define

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<v Speaker 1>pucci for me? This time has come up several times

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<v Speaker 1>in recent episodes, referencing both Sonic the Hedgehog and the

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<v Speaker 1>obnoxious teenage son from Ghost in the Machine. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's a generational gap or a cultural moment

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<v Speaker 1>I missed. I'm twenty five, but I've never heard this word,

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<v Speaker 1>and I now have burning curiosity to be looped in

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<v Speaker 1>since I don't know how it's spelled in this context.

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<v Speaker 1>Urban Dictionary has been less than helpful. So maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can help a brother out with a little flaming barrel etymology.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, thanks for doing what you do and filling

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<v Speaker 1>the duller moments of my days with weird, thoughtful, edifying

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<v Speaker 1>ear candy. I'm really enjoying Weird How Cinema and the

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<v Speaker 1>recent diversity of content the best tailor. Yeah, I figured

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<v Speaker 1>this is probably worth explaining for other listeners who are

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<v Speaker 1>not as deeply rooted in Simpson's lore as we are,

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<v Speaker 1>because I I think sometimes I just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like Shakespeare could assume that everybody in his audience knew

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible, so they all had the same point of comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>I tend to assume everybody knows the Simpsons, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's not true. So this is from the Simpsons. Pucci.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Pucci is kind of one of the patron

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<v Speaker 1>saints of our era and history. Pucci is a soulless

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<v Speaker 1>media corporation's attempt to lure in young viewers with a

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<v Speaker 1>cringe inducing simulacrum of youth rebellion and subculture. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>say that's a fair definition? Yes, yeah, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that sums it up nicely. So, but well, sorry, what

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, he's the he's the product

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<v Speaker 1>of pure corporate group think in terms of trying to

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<v Speaker 1>inject strategy and to creative endeavor. Yeah, so he's more

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<v Speaker 1>than one thing at once. I want to give you

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<v Speaker 1>the full spectrum of Pucci. If you've never seen the

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<v Speaker 1>episode So in the Simpsons, the context is that the

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<v Speaker 1>children can always be found watching the Itchy and Scratchy show.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a classic of sadistic cartoon violence between a

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<v Speaker 1>mouse and a cat. So you know, Barton Lisa on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday morning will watch Itchy throw Scratchy into a volcano

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<v Speaker 1>and they laugh and all is right with the world.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the Pucci episode, the corporation that owns Itchy

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<v Speaker 1>and Scratchy decides that the show needs a new character

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<v Speaker 1>to boost ratings. So over the objections of the show's writers,

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<v Speaker 1>who are they are themselves portrayed as like pompous and

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<v Speaker 1>lazy um, but these meddling executives come in and mandate

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<v Speaker 1>that the show must now incorporate a new dog character

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<v Speaker 1>who is just you know, a sort of a very

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<v Speaker 1>uncool business person's idea of subcultures, but all different subcultures

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<v Speaker 1>thrown into a blender. So he's a leather jacket wearing

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<v Speaker 1>electric guitar, playing grunge hip hops for in sunglasses and

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<v Speaker 1>a backwards cap. Oh. Also, somehow Homer ends up being

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<v Speaker 1>the voice of Pucci within the show. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they have like a big casting thing and he gets it.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason. But then when the episode with Pucci

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<v Speaker 1>debuts and the kids watch it, Pucci is rightly despised

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<v Speaker 1>by all UH and is promptly written off the show.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this great scene where they UH like somebody dubs

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<v Speaker 1>in a line that says like I must go, my

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<v Speaker 1>planet needs me, and then they just lift the cell

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<v Speaker 1>out of the animation frame and then we get like

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<v Speaker 1>a subtitle saying that Pucci died on the way back

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<v Speaker 1>to his home planet. I think we had never been

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<v Speaker 1>told before that it was from another planet. Um, let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Pucci is put Pucci is actually several different

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<v Speaker 1>emblems at once. In one aspect, Pucci is a corporate

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<v Speaker 1>executives horribly confused and inauthentic understanding of what the kids

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<v Speaker 1>are into these days. And so Pucci is in that

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<v Speaker 1>respect a very poor and cringe inducing attempt to pander.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say Pucci also represents the never ending

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<v Speaker 1>desire of business executives who own creative properties to interfere

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<v Speaker 1>in the creative processes of their employees with the near

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee of disastrous effects. So in that later sense, I

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<v Speaker 1>think to broaden the scope beyond just cartoons and media products.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say that every time your boss tells you to

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<v Speaker 1>try doing X, and you already know that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible idea because you know what you do day in

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<v Speaker 1>and day out, but your boss doesn't know. But you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do it anyway because your boss said so.

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<v Speaker 1>And then sure enough X proves to be a failure

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<v Speaker 1>and a terrible idea. X is a Pucci. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>Pucci situation. That that that's absolutely yet I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>summarized Pucci um that the episode, if anybody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>see it, it is specifically the fourteenth episode of season eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's titled The Itchy and Scratchy and Pucci Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say I think about Pucci at least once a day.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Pucci is like Pucci, as much of a

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<v Speaker 1>figure as like an eleventh century Frenchman might think of

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<v Speaker 1>the mother Mary. You know, I maybe don't think about

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<v Speaker 1>him as much, but if I get enough work emails

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<v Speaker 1>covering the right topics in the course of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly think about Pucci and start thinking back and

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and I can't remember. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it with the family. I think I showed

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<v Speaker 1>it to the boy recently um. In Pucci's debut episode,

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<v Speaker 1>he introduces himself with a Pucci rap, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>tells the children to always recycle. Yes, always recycled to

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<v Speaker 1>the extreme busted and he's like playing in a guitar

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<v Speaker 1>and dribbling a basketball. I think all at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>m hm, should that? Should that wrap it up for today?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. I mean, if you want to, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to learn more about Pucci, you have your homework.

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<v Speaker 1>You know which episode is episode to go watch, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's only in that episode. I like that they've stuck

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<v Speaker 1>to their guns. I believe. I'm pretty sure that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Seth will interrupt us here and let us know if

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<v Speaker 1>we're wrong. But I think they've stuck to their guns

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<v Speaker 1>and never brought Pucci back, which is the way it

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<v Speaker 1>should be. He truly died on the way back to

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<v Speaker 1>his home planet. But also this should be a good

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<v Speaker 1>prompt for listener mail. I mean, in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>broader understanding of Pucci. What's your Pucci? What's the Pucci

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<v Speaker 1>in your life? Yeah, I mean, sometimes it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>find a pure Pucci like Pucci exists because we need

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<v Speaker 1>like the purity of the idea to take on a

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<v Speaker 1>corporeal form. Uh So it I feel like it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a little difficult to find wild Pucci's out there. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can find just aspects of Pucci and other things generally.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm I'm open to correction on this if you

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<v Speaker 1>have some examples of of Pucci, pure Pucci or Puccinus

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<v Speaker 1>or just slight Pucciness in the world. Let me know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when we made the Sonic the Hedgehog comparison,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not in this broader understanding of the way

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<v Speaker 1>Pucci fits into, i know, dynamics of creative projects and

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<v Speaker 1>things that are owned by corporations. In that sense, Sonic

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<v Speaker 1>the Hedgehog is more of a Pucci in that he's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a cartoon animal who's got an attitude, uh

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<v Speaker 1>and was mandated that he should have an attitude by

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<v Speaker 1>some business owner. Right right, Yeah, So even Sonic is

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<v Speaker 1>not a pure example, but even the kid in um

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<v Speaker 1>uh in Ghost in the Machine is not is maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not pure Pucci, but he's as close to pure Pucci

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<v Speaker 1>as I've ever seen. Uh in cinema uncut Pucci deep dupe,

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<v Speaker 1>doude deep but deep dup. But we just got a

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<v Speaker 1>notification from Seth, who is even more of a Simpsons

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<v Speaker 1>nerd than we are, that Pucci has in fact returned

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<v Speaker 1>on multiple occasions in the Simpsons, but always only as

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<v Speaker 1>like a punchline cameo. Okay, well that's not that's good

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<v Speaker 1>to know, yeah, not as like, hey, here's another whole

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<v Speaker 1>Pucci episode. All right. Well, it looks like Carney the

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<v Speaker 1>will revive him next week and we will share more

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