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Speaker 1: This is the huddle every Thursday from you to Chew.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

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Speaker 3: and Stacy Ross. We're going to recap the Bills lost here,

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Speaker 3: though only very quickly, I promise, and then we're going

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Speaker 3: to bring on Julian Love Darek Young joining us next,

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Speaker 3: and then we're going to continue a preview, a look

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Speaker 3: ahead to the Rams, because let's put a loss behind

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Speaker 3: us first, though, let's talk about the Bills. It could

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Speaker 3: be Wyman, something we learned, something that stood out. What's

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Speaker 3: sticking with you after this one?

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Speaker 4: I just think it was well during the game, I

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Speaker 4: called it a comedy of airs. Some of the you know,

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Speaker 4: the stepping on the foot, the you know, the kicked

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Speaker 4: ball that Alan somehow got, you know, you got the

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Speaker 4: interception snap over the head. I mean, there's all kinds

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Speaker 4: of things that went down that, you know. I don't

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Speaker 4: know that it's enough to make up for the thirty

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Speaker 4: one to ten deficit, but you know, it certainly didn't

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Speaker 4: allow them to get into any kind of like a rhythm.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was one of those that I think at this

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Speaker 4: point Buffalo's a better team, no question about it. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was a pretty big test, and I think things

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Speaker 4: will get better. But and I do think in some

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Speaker 4: things improved a little bit with with Ernest Jones.

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Speaker 1: I really like what I saw from him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he made a ton of tackles and he's very physical,

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Speaker 4: and you know, and I think his weaknesses maybe past coverage,

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Speaker 4: but I think he's kind of setting a culture there

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Speaker 4: he's going to as far as taking on guards and

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Speaker 4: standing your gap and all the gap discipline stuff that

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Speaker 3: Bump, it felt like they missed DK metcalf. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that he's the reason they lost, but you were

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Speaker 3: looking at the lack of explosives in this game and

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Speaker 5: No pass is thrown over twenty yards. Dek has the

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Speaker 5: most twenty yard receptions in the league with eleven. In

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Speaker 5: what he does, he creates space underneath and he makes

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Speaker 5: the safeties have to drop deeper, which allows there to

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Speaker 5: be more room between the backers and the safety.

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Speaker 6: He just a defense.

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Speaker 5: And people if DK is not going for one hundred

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Speaker 5: and thirty yards and a touchdown, people think DK is

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Speaker 5: not doing anything. Statistically probably, but you look at the

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Speaker 5: way he gets other people open.

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Speaker 6: At times he's he was missed.

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Speaker 5: They were not explosive in the past game at all.

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Speaker 1: Last week.

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely not, Wyman. We were joking earlier with listeners

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Speaker 3: on Bump and Stacy about a Halloween candy that would

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Speaker 3: describe the Seahawks, and someone said twigs. And while I

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Speaker 3: didn't agree with them, because I think twigs are perfect candy,

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Speaker 3: they said, well, it's like side AY and side B

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Speaker 3: you kind of see two versions. There's a version of

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks I thought could beat the Bills, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, I looked at this matchup and

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Speaker 3: I thought the Bills have kind of struggled against the run.

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Speaker 3: There's a version of the Seahawks that can get that going,

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Speaker 3: that can be you know, a two dimensional offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they if they play their Recis's Peanut Butter.

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Speaker 3: Cup game exactly, Dave, exactly. But they did not. They

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Speaker 3: played their Twizzlers game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Bomb.

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Speaker 6: So this is a bomb man.

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Speaker 1: I don't know even the hard plastic key candy.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. No, that's a perfect description of them.

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Speaker 5: But they've been around since nineteen twenty nine when people

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Speaker 5: had fewer choices.

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Speaker 3: Your choices were, do you want popcorn? Do you want peanuts?

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Speaker 3: Do you want twizzlers? Yea, all take twizzlers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: But given the choice of all the great candies I have.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about how how the Seahawks can improve against

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Speaker 3: the Rams. It feels like it starts with the run

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Speaker 3: Dave their run game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's funny you look at how their

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Speaker 4: offense is executes. It reminds me so much of what

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Speaker 4: I think five and ten the last fifteen against them,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, he just he's so patient and I feel like,

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Speaker 4: I heard you talking about how everything looks the same.

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Speaker 4: I think also another thing is that like they sell everything.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's all the design, part of the

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Speaker 4: design of what they do. They just execute everything really well,

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Speaker 4: spread the field out and then you know, I feel

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Speaker 4: and him going through like his progressions.

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Speaker 1: He's really good at that. And yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a tough.

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Speaker 3: Offense, but absolutely will be. We saw the Rams look

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Speaker 3: much healthier against the Vikings, who are a very good,

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Speaker 3: very complete team. I mean, what kind of punch are

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Speaker 3: they going to be packing for Seattle and how to Seattle?

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Speaker 3: Stop it?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 5: You know, I had to go look at their D

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Speaker 5: about how great they are, and I'm like, man, let me,

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Speaker 6: What all this is about.

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Speaker 3: Let me see what this noise is.

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Speaker 5: And I'm looking at this D line you have. We'll

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Speaker 5: throw the outside backers into the mix as well, Byron

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Speaker 5: Young's second year, Brandon Fists, rookie, Bobby Brown, great name

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Speaker 5: the year, Kobe Turner's second year, Jared versus Rookie. And

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Speaker 5: then I connect the age to what I'm seen on

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Speaker 5: film and I go, I understand what they're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: This is a young, energetic offensive line. They play with

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Speaker 5: a lot of passion, good good pad level. I think

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be another challenge for this offensive line. They

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Speaker 5: use their Nickel and the blitz packages. Often they will

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Speaker 5: get after the quarterback. It's gonna be another tough game.

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Speaker 5: But I think if you are the Seahawks and a

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Speaker 5: because they're still trying to figure some things out.

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Speaker 3: That's where it feels like the Seahawks are right now.

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Speaker 3: Wyman is like, until they fill some holes on the roster,

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Speaker 3: it's just going to be a battle in every game,

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Speaker 3: and you just kind of have to accept that. How

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: You know, I think everything always starts with the run

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Speaker 4: I think. But you know, I just feel like I

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Speaker 4: play and yeah, and I'm gonna say running back, find

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's just you know, always there's been that problem.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like, you know, if they take another

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Speaker 4: lay it all on Ernest Jones, but I do think

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I feel like that's always where

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Speaker 4: thing I would like to see is, you know, guys

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Speaker 4: you know your assignment. Now you can turn it loose

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Speaker 4: not saying they're bad players, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like.

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Speaker 4: They're not playing up to that, you know, they're typically

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Speaker 4: really good performances from those two guys.

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Speaker 3: Felt like the story of the Falcons game and how

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Speaker 3: they got out with a win in that one, in

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Speaker 3: addition to playing well, was those takeaways, right like that

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Speaker 3: was the story of that Falcons win, finally being able

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Speaker 3: to get them. Julian love joining us right now on

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Speaker 3: the huddle. Julian, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Happy Halloween. By the way, before I start with the

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Speaker 3: sports questions, you and your family do anything for Halloween.

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Speaker 7: With the little one?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 8: You halloween s little little Yeah? So you know we're

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Speaker 8: not gonna trick or treat or anything. You probably will

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Speaker 8: just for a picture or two. But he's in me

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Speaker 8: a lion, of course. Uh, We're gonna be uh like

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Speaker 7: I guess the whole yeah deal.

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Speaker 4: What's your favorite growing up? What was one of your

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Speaker 7: I feel like it's just not a a fun answer.

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Speaker 8: I think Batman was, Like I like, you know, it

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Speaker 8: was a memorable Halloween. I was Batman one year, might

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Speaker 6: Julie.

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Speaker 5: You you always I host the post game show, so

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Speaker 5: we get to listen to your pressors and stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and you always come to the podium no matter what.

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Speaker 5: Just so level headed and clear, whether you guys played well,

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Speaker 7: It's a little bit of both. For sure. I think

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Speaker 8: I you know, I feel strongly about things, of course,

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Speaker 9: Just try to stay consistent.

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Speaker 8: And then, yeah, I think understanding kind of why I'm here,

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Speaker 8: levelheadedness is kind of for just who I am naturally.

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Speaker 7: Just try to be a glue.

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Speaker 3: It can't be easy to implement a new defense, a

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Speaker 3: brand new head coach. I'm sure that there was a

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Speaker 3: lot for you guys to take on and learn. Do

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Speaker 3: you feel like part of what you guys are dealing

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Speaker 3: with as the season goes on is maybe after loss

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Speaker 3: you go, oh, like, you know, like this is now clicking,

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Speaker 3: Like it's a learning process. Is that how it feels.

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Speaker 7: It's a huge learning process for sure. After every game,

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Speaker 8: There are still a lot of those moments where I think,

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Speaker 4: Seen you like angry or emotional or anything, But what's

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Speaker 1: It's a different cat, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I love watching film Man and I try to. I

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Speaker 3: All right. Well, you also have to get back to

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Speaker 3: appreciate your time. Julian, he is Julian Love. You're listening

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Speaker 3: to the huddle.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Woyman, Michael Bumpus,

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Speaker 3: How's it going.

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Speaker 6: It's been going pretty good.

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Speaker 10: We're sitting at four and four right now, and I

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Speaker 6: Running the ball? Number one?

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Speaker 10: Our coaches have made it the emphasis that in order

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Speaker 4: What about your role like in the running game, you

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Speaker 10: Yeah, each run play is important for us. There's no

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you mentioned you guys aren't where you want to be,

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Speaker 6: That's why I tell you.

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Speaker 10: Lets it's focus on that. Yeah, we focus on the

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Speaker 3: Can I ask you a Halloween question? We'll get back

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Speaker 10: I don't think they're overrated. I think Andy Corn is

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Speaker 3: on his list was Twizzlers. Okay, Bump tried telling me, Bob,

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Speaker 3: Twizzlers are bomb, true or false.

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Speaker 10: Don't be afraid of any basic the basic, the basic Twizzlers.

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Speaker 6: No, but you know they have the sour the sour.

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Speaker 4: It's just well, Bump Bump says they're the oldest candy.

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Speaker 4: They taste like they're old. Yeah, it tastes like from

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not a I'm not a fan of I'm

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Speaker 10: I'll say Snickers, Jarley Ranchers.

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Speaker 6: And I'll go with Airheads.

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Speaker 10: I don't trick or treat anymore, but when I was

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Speaker 1: No one's true.

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Speaker 4: One more Halloween question. Do you remember when you went

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Speaker 10: What was your your best, they asked me, They asked

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Speaker 10: I would literally just I've dressed up, like I wore

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Speaker 4: Did anybody ever say you're not getting candy because you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I still with the old school pillowcase back in

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Speaker 5: Do you put a lot of thought into the game

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Speaker 6: You kind of just just roll out.

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Speaker 10: I mean I respect the guys that you know, put

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Rick, have you does your family come to any

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Speaker 10: Yeah, almost every game this year, I've had a family

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Speaker 10: I usually don't have time to really like take him

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Speaker 3: Is Do you go out much at all? Are you

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Speaker 10: Like, I'm mostly a homebody. I love trying new restaurants

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Speaker 1: What do you like to eat?

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Speaker 6: I love Hubachi and Italian food so.

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Speaker 10: It used to be Tokyo Steakhouse and Bellvy, but they

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Speaker 5: if you've been a Duke fo. Yeah, I've been there. Yeah, Dukes.

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Speaker 5: I think we're going there tonight for the for Hawk's

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See. I was sitting here trying to think of Italian

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Speaker 1: Yeah we do. We do that.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes people text into the show, our texters and get

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Speaker 4: you some some good places to go. Your car gat right, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 10: just started adding up, you know, weekly. So I just

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Speaker 10: decided to get a Tesla, went to a car dealership,

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Speaker 10: test drove it.

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Speaker 6: And I was like, just like a regular car.

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Speaker 10: You know, it's some differences, but yeah, I love Tesla

448
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Speaker 10: and I honestly don't see myself going back to a

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Speaker 10: gas car.

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Speaker 5: I rented a Tesla when I was in the Bay Area,

451
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Speaker 5: like a month. I've never driven a Tesla before, legit.

452
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Speaker 5: Five minutes into driving, I called my wife.

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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, we we might need to might

454
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Speaker 6: need to make the move. The performance is crazy and.

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Speaker 3: It's quiet though, right, that's the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: People like crazy. It's you just have to drive on.

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Speaker 6: Trust me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a car person, but I will try

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Speaker 3: that out. My neighbors. Both of my neighbors have them,

460
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Speaker 3: and every time they leave, I always think, no, that

461
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Speaker 3: must be nice. How he is Derek Young kind enough

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Speaker 3: to join us on the huddle. Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: This This is the huddle every Thursday from noon to

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Speaker 2: two on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 3: All right, you are listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman,

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Speaker 3: Michael Bumpus, and Stacy Rost. Coming up a bit later,

467
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Speaker 3: we're gonna go in the trenches with Ray Roberts obviously,

468
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Speaker 3: talk about that offensive line, what he's seeing and what

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Speaker 3: he wants to see. Before we get to that, though,

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Speaker 3: let's start an opponent preview with JB Long. JB. How's

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Speaker 3: it going? Oh, just kidding. We're gonna get connected with

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Speaker 3: JB here in one moment. Also, a Geno press conference

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Speaker 3: coming up next, you guys are going to hear from

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Speaker 3: the quarterback. We'll begin our Rams preview. We had Derek

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Speaker 3: Young in here earlier and this was off mic, so

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say too much about what we were

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Speaker 3: talking about, but I think this Rams defense Wyman is

478
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Speaker 3: better than I think it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. I couldn't believe.

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Speaker 4: You know, we talked a lot about verse Jared Vers

481
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Speaker 4: during the draft, and you know everybody was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's hands down the best pass rusher. Was watching him

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Speaker 4: in that Chicago game and oh my gosh, I think

484
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Speaker 4: we were in Detroit at the time and I was

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Speaker 4: watching the game, like, my god, he was in on

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Speaker 4: every play pretty much, I mean, and he has like

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Speaker 4: thirty two pressures on one hundred and sixty seven pass

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Speaker 4: rushing opportunities. Then, you know, and then the other thing

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Speaker 4: is Braiden Fisk and Derek was just talking to or no,

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Speaker 4: maybe it was Julian somebody was saying that, you know,

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Speaker 4: all of their defensive linemen are young, and Bump, you were.

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Speaker 4: You were talking about maybe they can be had, you know,

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Speaker 4: because it's a pretty young defensive line, but Braiden Fisk

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Speaker 4: another rookie who was actually playing pretty well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the assumption is like, oh, because they're young,

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Speaker 3: exactly like you said, Like everyone thought hitting into the season,

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Speaker 3: the offense is where the Rams are going to have

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Speaker 3: to shine, and they did against the Vikings. They also

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Speaker 3: beat the Vikings because their defense was making plays. Bump,

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Speaker 3: I got to be honest, I'm a little nervous about

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Speaker 3: this matchup. I think the Rams have have kind of

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Speaker 3: had Seattle's number at times, and uh, we're gonna have,

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Speaker 3: you know, obviously, see some challenges here for for Seattle

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Speaker 3: moving forward. But do you see an opportunity anywhere when

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Speaker 3: it comes to this matchup against the Rams? Or is

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Speaker 3: this gonna be a tough one?

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Speaker 5: There's always opportunities, right, I think that you do have

508
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Speaker 5: a young defensive line, so you got to try to

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Speaker 5: test them, right, You got to try to confuse them

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Speaker 5: with your emotions and stuff the same way that the

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Speaker 5: Rams do. I think that, uh, it's gonna be tough

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Speaker 5: defensively though when it comes to Pooka and and Cooper

513
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Speaker 5: Cup just because they're just veterans, they know how to

514
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Speaker 5: feel the game and how to move guys and get

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Speaker 5: into the right spot. There's always an opportunity. Is it

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Speaker 5: gonna be tough? I think so? And I think I

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Speaker 5: understand why teams or analysts are picking the Rams to

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Speaker 5: to win the division, though I'm still going with the Niners.

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Speaker 4: Sean McVeigh to me, seems like a really smart coach,

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Speaker 4: and uh, talking to a few people that are really

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Speaker 4: close to him and actually work for the Rams, it's

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Speaker 4: just everything is about teaching, and he's a perfectionist, and

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Speaker 4: you know, he just seems like he is you know,

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Speaker 4: it's easy for him to kind of explain.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to have a concept.

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Speaker 4: And everything, but then it's another, you know, to uh

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Speaker 4: to actually implement it and put it out on the field.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's one of the things maybe Mike

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Speaker 4: is struggling with a little bit right now. He's got

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Speaker 4: a great scheme. Obviously it works, but just trying to

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Speaker 4: get everybody to do it. And I feel like Sean

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Speaker 4: McVeigh really values especially a guy like Matthew Stafford. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: someone that can you know, that really executes every last

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Speaker 4: little detail.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. When we had Drek in here earlier and I

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Speaker 3: was like, hey, when you guys are on, what do

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Speaker 3: you do?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 3: Am I the only one who thought he'd say pass

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Speaker 3: the ball? I mean, guess he's a wide receiver, you knows,

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Speaker 3: leading the league in passing yards. I thought he'd say, oh,

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Speaker 3: we can be an explosive offense. And the first thing

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Speaker 3: he said was run the ball. Yeah, which was shocking

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, I like that about him.

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Speaker 11: He is.

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Speaker 1: He is really a versatile player.

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen a whole bunch from der Young, but

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Speaker 4: I think he's going to have a good career.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Remember his rookie year, they lined him up at full back.

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Speaker 4: He's a good special team guy.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's versatile, he can he can line up anywhere,

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Speaker 4: and you see when he's a receiver. That's why I

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Speaker 4: asked him about you know, it looks like you take

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Speaker 4: a lot of pride in blocking.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think, yeah, that's kind of surprising.

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Speaker 9: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I know that a wide receiver was was picking that.

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Speaker 3: And look, I know that some people might roll their

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Speaker 3: eyes because people can well you don't do it very well.

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Speaker 3: But it's about what he thinks they can be great

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Speaker 3: at and what he personally likes. And look, I want

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Speaker 3: this team to be better there. I think it's clear

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Speaker 3: where their focus is. And you know, Mike McDonald kind

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Speaker 3: of hinted at this. He was in this case, why

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Speaker 3: i'man talking about the run defense, but he was like, look,

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Speaker 3: I know fans want to see it. There's a certain

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Speaker 3: point where you just want to see it. But I

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Speaker 3: am telling you we are taking steps. We're working on it.

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Speaker 3: We know exactly who they want to be. It's just

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Speaker 3: about taking the steps to get there. What steps do

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Speaker 3: you kind of hope we see against the rams on

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Speaker 3: the defensive side or offensive side, it's establishing or stopping

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Speaker 3: the run.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and obviously I always focus on everything is always

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Speaker 4: on the defense.

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Speaker 3: It's a huge thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, and I think the offense wasn't

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Speaker 4: really the problem over the last couple of years. It

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Speaker 4: was the defense. So yeah, if you know, to me,

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Speaker 4: I think it's a good start. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 4: get too excited about you know, Ernest out there. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think he's I think he looked he looked really good.

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Speaker 4: And there was a couple of things that he did.

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Speaker 4: Ernest Jones did that. I was like, Okay, that's different.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that will kind of catch on with everybody else.

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Speaker 4: And it had to do with just the ferocity of

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Speaker 4: It's one thing to get in your gap, but really

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Speaker 4: that shouldn't be what it's about. It should be getting

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Speaker 4: your gap and win the battle, you know. And that's

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Speaker 4: the thing where I think guys are getting pushed aside.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I was just talking to somebody about

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Speaker 4: what I would do, and I've probably said this in

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Speaker 4: the huddle the last three weeks, is if I'm going

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Speaker 4: to come in here as a team that wants to

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Speaker 4: run the ball, which everybody does, I'm going to test

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Speaker 4: him with a stretch play or whatever, and just see

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Speaker 4: and they get to their gaps.

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Speaker 3: How did the stretch play? How would that test them

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Speaker 3: in a different way as opposed to like just running right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Just because you know, you kind of everybody's kind of

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Speaker 4: moving to the side alignment, are kind of moving. Maybe

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Speaker 4: I'm not describing it right, but like, yeah, to me,

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Speaker 4: a stretch play is like you hand the ball off

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Speaker 4: and he kind of heads outside and he could go

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Speaker 4: anywhere from the backside a gap to the front side.

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Speaker 4: And you know, good running backs are good at that.

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Speaker 4: They're if you make a mistake, they will find the whole.

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Speaker 4: I don't even care if you're a third stringer, and

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Speaker 4: we saw that happen.

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Speaker 1: With both San Francisco and the Giants.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if there's a huge gap, there doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: if you're a third stringer, You're going to run through it.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that's something that I if you

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Speaker 4: can constrict that a little bit. I think Byron Murphy

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Speaker 4: is you know, he was hurt there for a while,

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Speaker 4: but I think he's going to make a comeback and

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Speaker 4: start to be a little bit more dominant. And that's

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Speaker 4: one of the things Bob and I were grading yesterday

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Speaker 4: all the different position groups, and I gave a fairly

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Speaker 4: decent grade with the with the defensive line because you know,

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Speaker 4: and I think Bob was more critical of the d line,

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Speaker 4: But to me, it's more about the safeties and.

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Speaker 1: The linebackers throwing in those gaps. Yeah, the second level.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think if they can get that down,

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Speaker 4: that'll be key because Sean McVay very smart coach, and

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Speaker 4: he's definitely going to test that defense.

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Speaker 12: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I promise you Sean McVay knows exactly where Seattle's struggling

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Speaker 3: right now and is ready to poke at some of

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Speaker 3: those buttons. Last question, I only saved you a minute,

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Speaker 3: but you guys have already talked about this. I was

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Speaker 3: listening to you and Bob the other day and you

636
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 3: guys were discussing whether or not is this personnel like

637
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Speaker 3: not having the horses, or is it scheme? And whyman,

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Speaker 3: I kind of want to believe that it's scheme, because

639
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 3: that feels like something you can improve on this year.

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Speaker 3: You can learn, you can figure it out. Not having

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00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: the right guys, that's not something you just solve.

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Speaker 4: You're right, and so, and I'm not picking And actually

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Speaker 4: mine was was kind of neither because the scheme works,

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Speaker 4: we know, right, but see, yes, and I think we

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Speaker 4: have the talent.

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Speaker 1: That's just my opinion.

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Speaker 4: But I just think boy Mafe, Derek Hall, I mean,

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Speaker 4: these are all good players, but it's executing the scheme.

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00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 4: So it's something in between where it's like, I don't

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Speaker 4: want to say it's coaching, like these guys aren't you know,

651
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 4: good coaches or anything like that, but it just taken

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Speaker 4: a while to get everybody to like a point where

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Speaker 4: they're like I think it was Ernest Jones that said

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Speaker 4: when he came in here, he goes, yeah, I need

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Speaker 4: to get out to practice and screw a bunch of

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Speaker 4: things up and then fix them.

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Speaker 1: You know. And I'm like, that's a great way to

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Speaker 1: put it. I've never heard anybody say that.

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Speaker 4: Learn yeah, because you know, if you're a pro, most

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Speaker 4: pros don't, you know, fall for the same thing twice.

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Speaker 4: So if something happens, you learn from it, and you know,

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Speaker 4: you get better. So I feel like somewhere down the

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Speaker 4: line here we're going to look at you know, and

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Speaker 4: it could happen just in one game where it's like, wow,

665
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Speaker 4: everybody's in the gap. They're not gashing us in the

666
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Speaker 4: in the run game, we're holding them under one hundred yards.

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Speaker 4: That'll be I'm waiting for that day, Stacy, waiting for

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Speaker 4: that day.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of gaps, we're going to talk about the offensive

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Speaker 3: lineman coming up in the trench's great Robs. Before we

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Speaker 3: get to it, let's take a listen to the latest

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Speaker 3: from Gino Smith. It's coming up.

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Speaker 2: Next this This is the huddle every Thursday from noon

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Speaker 2: to two on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 3: Sitting at five hundred. With a huge divisional matchup coming

676
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Speaker 3: up against the Rams, Let's figure out how quarterback Gino

677
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Speaker 3: Smith is feeling. Here's his press conference.

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Speaker 13: We're in your vote shirt to start with that, Just

679
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Speaker 13: what why is that important to either?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, anytime we can get out and you know,

681
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Speaker 11: make a change, whether that's in our community, make a

682
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Speaker 11: difference in our community, or you know nationally, you know,

683
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Speaker 11: want everyone to have that have that right which many

684
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Speaker 11: have fought for, and so it's very important for all

685
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Speaker 11: of us. And so there's a voting center at Luomingfield

686
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Speaker 11: that you know, hopefully everyone shows up to and let

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Speaker 11: their voice be heard.

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Speaker 14: When you take a look at the film and you

689
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Speaker 14: look at the Rams, that got in young rook in

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Speaker 14: that linebacker spot with versus Just what.

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Speaker 2: Do you see with them?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you said some young guys. But

693
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Speaker 11: they're playing like vets.

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Speaker 9: You know. They they have a great system. They're a

695
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Speaker 9: great coach.

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Speaker 11: You know, he's gonna coach them up and get them

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Speaker 11: ready and prepared to play.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 11: You know, I feel like those guys are out there,

700
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Speaker 11: they're playing together. Uh you can see obviously, you know

701
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Speaker 11: they lost Aaron Donald, but you can still see upfront. Man,

702
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Speaker 11: they're getting after them. So we got to be prepared

703
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Speaker 11: for them. They do a great job at twisting stunts.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 11: They do a great job at you know, the pick game.

706
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Speaker 11: They're picking the center, they're picking the guards, the tackles.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 11: So they have a lot of uh you know, different

709
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Speaker 11: different formations. You know, a lot of different personnel. Uh

710
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Speaker 11: that will be keen on. And you know they're they're

711
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Speaker 11: a pretty good defense.

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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 11: We gotta go out there, we gotta take it to

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Speaker 11: them from the start, and then we gotta finish strong.

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Speaker 15: How similar or different is that defense with rahem worse

716
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Speaker 15: no longer coordinating it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's it's very similar in terms of

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Speaker 11: a lot of their principles, but obviously new decordinator, new philosophy. Uh,

719
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Speaker 11: so there's gonna be subtle differences that you'll notice on film.

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Speaker 11: And then obviously in the game they'll make different adjustments. Uh,

721
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Speaker 11: they'll want to attack us in different ways. But still,

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Speaker 11: you know, many of the same principles that they carried over.

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Speaker 16: And do you know how much has patients play into

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Speaker 16: starting fast, that is, in terms of trying to stick

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Speaker 16: with like the one game until it works.

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Speaker 1: How does all that work.

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Speaker 6: For the offense?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's a it's a big part of

729
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Speaker 11: the offense starting fast, you know, being able to run

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Speaker 11: the ball, being able to be balanced pass play action,

731
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Speaker 11: as well as you know, converting third downs. The more

732
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Speaker 11: we can keep our defense on the sideline and keep

733
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Speaker 11: them fresh, the better off they'll be. And so it's

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Speaker 11: a complimentary football that we're talking about here when you

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Speaker 11: say that. And so we want to always start fast.

736
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Speaker 11: But also, like you said, be patient, you know, not

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Speaker 11: not you know, predetermine anything, not to not to make

738
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Speaker 11: any you know, outside expectations or think things are supposed

739
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Speaker 11: to go one way. You just play the next play,

740
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Speaker 11: make the next right decision. And I think you'll be fine.

741
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Speaker 11: But yeah, we want to start fast. We want to

742
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Speaker 11: you know, step on the gas, and then we want

743
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Speaker 11: to finish strong at the end.

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Speaker 14: We've heard from coaching, We've their teammates so they can

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Speaker 14: see the progress and that they know that there are

746
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Speaker 14: things that are on the right track. Yes, experience, what

747
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Speaker 14: are those indicators where you know you're just about to

748
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Speaker 14: turn the corner? What starts showing up on film?

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Speaker 11: You know, for the for the most part, you talk

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Speaker 11: about the effort of the team, you don't see guys

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Speaker 11: out there not giving effort.

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Speaker 9: You know, you see guys.

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Speaker 11: I mean you look at Spoon the way he plays,

754
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Speaker 11: and he's just you know, fiery and just playing hard

755
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Speaker 11: the entire game. Look at the way our defense fights,

756
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Speaker 11: you know, look at the trenches in the way that

757
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 11: they fight throughout the entire game, no matter the circumstance.

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Speaker 9: If you look at all of our games.

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Speaker 11: Besides this past one, we've given ourselves a shot to

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Speaker 11: win them, especially late, and so you can see our

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Speaker 11: offense that's gonna continue to swing and continue to fight

762
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Speaker 11: no matter what's going on around us. And you know,

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Speaker 11: like like I said, if you look at our offensive line,

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Speaker 11: I thought they played a phenomenal game this previous game.

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Speaker 11: I thought the pass protection was outstanding. Uh, you can

766
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Speaker 11: see those guys beginning to jail as they play with

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Speaker 11: one another more. And so, uh, those are the things

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Speaker 11: that we got to continue to improve and continue to push.

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Speaker 11: They're gonna continue to lead our offense and our team.

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Speaker 9: And uh, the more we.

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Speaker 11: Continue to play together and stick together now listen to

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Speaker 11: the outside noise, the better we'll be.

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Speaker 5: You know, you mentioned the pass run balance, and I

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Speaker 5: think you guys have struggled with the run so far

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Speaker 5: this year.

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Speaker 15: I'm wondering what your perspective on this has been because

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Speaker 15: you're also leading the league in the temps pipe considerable margin,

778
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Speaker 15: leading the league in the yard, so you're getting a

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Speaker 15: lot of opportunities to throw the ball.

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Speaker 9: But I'm guessing you'd like to see a little.

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Speaker 6: Bit more balanced.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm all about you know, doing what's right. And

784
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Speaker 11: in football, you know, if they load the box and

785
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Speaker 11: they're gonna give us one on ones outside, we trust

786
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Speaker 11: our receivers, we trust our protection, and the coaches trust

787
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Speaker 11: me to make decisions. Uh, if they're gonna play too high,

788
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Speaker 11: they're gonna play shell. You know, we should have advantage

789
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Speaker 11: looks in the run game, and we should be able

790
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Speaker 11: to run it. And so if we run the ball

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Speaker 11: all game and it works and we win, I'm fine

792
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Speaker 11: with it. If we pass it and we win, I'm

793
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Speaker 11: fine with it. I think balance comes with doing the

794
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Speaker 11: right thing, and whether that's run or pass, it's really

795
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Speaker 11: dictated by you know, what the defense is doing. What's

796
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Speaker 11: the situation? Uh, you know, what do we have to

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Speaker 11: do in this moment to get to win. You know,

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Speaker 11: at a lot of times people just say balance, you know,

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Speaker 11: fifty run, fifty percent pass, but that that's really not

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Speaker 11: a reality.

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Speaker 9: It's about what's.

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Speaker 11: The next best play, what's the next you know, best

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Speaker 11: decision in that situation. And I think that's something like

804
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 11: our process, right, you talk about process over the results.

805
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Speaker 11: Our process is right, and I think the results will

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Speaker 11: come as long as we stick to that.

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Speaker 1: What did that look like to you.

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Speaker 9: When you went back in typogas.

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Speaker 6: In the last week.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I saw a lot of positive Really, I saw

811
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Speaker 11: a lot of positives. I think up front, like I said,

812
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Speaker 11: we got after I thought the protection was great. You know,

813
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Speaker 11: I thought that I had a bunch of time back there.

814
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Speaker 9: You could see where throughout.

815
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Speaker 11: The flow of the game where we got in rhythm,

816
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Speaker 11: you know, especially early, and we were getting down there,

817
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 11: we were moving the ball, and then we had some

818
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 11: catastrophic mistakes that made the game look a lot different

819
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Speaker 11: than it was.

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Speaker 9: You know, I think if we capitalize.

821
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Speaker 11: Down there in the red zone, especially early in the game,

822
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 11: get those points, you know, it creates a different situation

823
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Speaker 11: for our team.

824
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Speaker 9: It feels a lot different.

825
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Speaker 11: But obviously, when you don't and those are things that

826
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Speaker 11: are in our control, when you don't do that, you know,

827
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Speaker 11: it just it puts a bad taste in your mouth.

828
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Speaker 11: And so for us as an offense, each individual especially

829
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Speaker 11: you know, as a team, we're all looking inward and

830
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Speaker 11: saying what can we do better?

831
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Speaker 9: And obviously, if we clean up our mistakes.

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Speaker 11: I've been saying this for a while, but if we

833
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Speaker 11: clean up our mistakes and just play clean, we're more

834
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Speaker 11: than capable of, you know, doing what we want to do.

835
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Speaker 13: Saw the first two drives you talked about getting a

836
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 13: rhythm ago first of ridings went three and out, three

837
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Speaker 13: and out, and then that third drive second quarter.

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Speaker 6: You guys went to stort downfield. What did you see

839
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Speaker 6: or feel like changed?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's just football, man Like, if you

841
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 11: look at the third down that we didn't convert, right,

842
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 11: I threw a pass into a tight window and God

843
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 11: barely gets tips it. If he doesn't tip that ball,

844
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Speaker 11: we get a first down.

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Speaker 9: And we're talking.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's a matter of interest, the game of interest,

847
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 11: as we talk about. So what happened? I thought, I

848
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 11: think we were better on early downs. You know, we

849
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 11: weren't in third and longs. That's gonna be tough on

850
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 11: any offense. But we still got to convert those, you know,

851
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 11: But you know, we were better on first and second down, uh,

852
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 11: in that drive and then obviously you know, got to

853
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 11: be better in the red zone. But you know, I

854
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 11: thought we just got into a flow, got into a rhythm.

855
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 11: We didn't panic, we didn't press. We allowed the game

856
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 11: to come to us. And that's what happened that.

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00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 15: Next drive that obviously ended with the bad snap, but

858
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 15: you guys moved the ball pretty well. There was that

859
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 15: a good example of what your offense can be when

860
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Speaker 15: it's really clicking.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think in all the games, if you watch

862
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 11: all of our games, we have those spurts where it's

863
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 11: just you know, we can move the ball at will

864
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 11: at times, and you can see it when we don't

865
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 11: have you know, penalties that set us back, or you know,

866
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 11: we don't have turnovers or things like that that aren't

867
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 11: conducive to winning. You know, we move the ball and

868
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 11: we do our thing, but when we shoot ourselves in

869
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 11: the foot, if we start to drive first and fifteen,

870
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 11: first and twenty, you know, you're battling back at that point,

871
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 11: and it's gonna be tough, you know, and like I said,

872
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 11: you gotta be able to overcome it. Great teams do,

873
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 11: but we still can't put ourselves in that position. The

874
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 11: cleaner we play, the better we play as far as

875
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 11: first and second down, like I said, the better off

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Speaker 11: we are.

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Speaker 6: We saw your frustration as the game went on, and

878
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 6: of course you want to win the competitor you are.

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Speaker 9: Was that game in particular frustrating? Is there anything in

880
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 9: particular that was more upsetting? Just losing? You know, that's

881
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 9: that's the main thing.

882
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 11: I You know, I'm really not a great loser.

883
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 9: It sucks. I hate it.

884
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 11: I need to overall when I watch myself, hey man,

885
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 11: just continue to uplift the guys. And you know, if

886
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 11: I'm being honest, do a better job at you know,

887
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 11: times when we're down. Those are things that I'm constantly improving.

888
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 11: I'm not gonna say I'm perfect at it. I'm very

889
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 11: emotional when it comes to winning, when it comes to

890
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 11: doing the right thing, and so at times I let

891
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 11: my emotion show. Whether that's good or bad, I guess

892
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 11: that's a personal opinion, but you know, I'm gonna be

893
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 11: myself at all times, and so I want to continue

894
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 11: to bring that fire to our team, to our offense.

895
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 11: I want to continue to be competitive and not in

896
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 11: a bad way, but in a good way. And so

897
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 11: it's always a fine line that you got to walk.

898
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 11: But I gotta be careful with making, you know, too

899
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 11: many mistakes in that area.

900
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 9: How difficult is it to be genuine and a competitor

901
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 9: but not be fake, raw, raw and positive when it's

902
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 9: not going well. I don't think it's difficult.

903
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 11: I think everyone is themselves and I think as long

904
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 11: as you're being yourself, I think it's fine. Like I said,

905
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 11: if it becomes something that you're going overboard, or it's

906
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 11: a hinderance to your team, or you're you know, you're

907
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 11: hurting the team, then that's a problem. But otherwise you know,

908
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 11: just be yourself. You know, the guys like when I

909
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 11: let my emotion show. But I'm just you know, evaluating

910
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 11: myself and saying, hey, I can be better in this area.

911
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 11: And so those are things that I'm trying to improve on.

912
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 9: What what in what way? Were you not better that?

913
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 17: Well?

914
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 11: I got a penalty, you know, those are those are

915
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 11: things that I can't have happened. And then obviously, like

916
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 11: everyone's watching me, right, so if I'm upset, they get

917
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 11: a little anti right, So I just gotta have a

918
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 11: better poker face and just work on it.

919
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 9: I assume the penalty was because that guy shoved you

920
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 9: under the chin.

921
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I was pretty upset at that, but again,

922
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 11: you know ref didn't call it.

923
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 9: Hey move on to the next play.

924
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 13: At the same time, though, how has your competitiveness and

925
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 13: emotion helped you get to this point in your career

926
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 13: and be the player you are?

927
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a big part of who I am. I

928
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 11: love the game. I'm passionate about football. I can't look

929
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 11: I look forward to going to practice every day and

930
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 11: you know, trying to get better and so uh, the

931
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 11: fire that I have inside of me, the chip on

932
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 11: my shoulder, I think you got.

933
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 9: We've already talked about that.

934
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 11: It's never gonna leave, so I just have to continue

935
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 11: to maintain it, man, And uh yeah, it is my

936
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 11: driving force. It is helped me get to this point

937
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 11: and will carry me on into the future. But can't

938
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 11: let it be affect me in a negative way.

939
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 9: It sounds like.

940
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 14: That's part of yourself scouting process that he always you

941
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 14: can't avoid that when you watch films. So in what

942
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 14: ways have you gotten better at that over the years

943
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 14: or where have you seen a change in yourself over

944
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 14: the years.

945
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 9: Yeah? When I was little, man, I used to ball

946
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 9: my eyes. I used to cry.

947
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 11: You know, I really used to cry. My mom she

948
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 11: hated it. She didn't understand. I used to cry like

949
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 11: a baby. So I don't cry tears anymore. I fight them,

950
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 11: I hold them back, but it still feels the same way.

951
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 11: It cuts deep, man, Like I want to win so bad.

952
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 11: I want the guys to enjoy the success of all

953
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 11: the hard work we put in. I want to go

954
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 11: into the locker room and celebrate with the with the

955
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 11: team and with our guys. Uh So, when we don't win,

956
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 11: no matter what I did out there, no matter how

957
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 11: I played it, all it all hurts the same, and

958
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 11: I look forward to the to the next opportunity. You know,

959
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 11: we got great guys on this team in this locker room,

960
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 11: and uh, we're getting things.

961
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 9: You know, we're four and four right now.

962
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 11: We got everything right in front of us, and everyone's

963
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 11: positive and they're prepared, and you know, we're getting on

964
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 11: the right track and we're going.

965
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 9: To be good.

966
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: We've been talking a lot about the offensive line. So

967
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: let's go in the trenches with Ray Roberts coming up next.

968
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: This is the.

969
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: Every Thursday from Mune to Chu the huddle.

970
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 3: You are listening to the huddle and we are going

971
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: in the trenches with Ray Roberts, Big Ray joining us

972
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: right now. Hey, Ray, how's it going.

973
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: That's going good?

974
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 17: How about you guys?

975
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: Fantastic? Obviously, we got to start where we always do

976
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: with the offensive line. Have you seen improvement from this group? Ray?

977
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 17: You know what, I can't say that I've seen that

978
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 17: much improvement because they haven't had the production, especially in

979
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 17: the running game, you know, so it's kind of hard

980
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 17: to say you've seen some improvement. What I have seen, though,

981
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 17: is that as ugly as it has looked at times,

982
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 17: if you really watched the film Man, It's really just

983
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 17: it just seems like one player along the offense is

984
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 17: taking their turn not getting it done each play. And

985
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 17: so it's not a matter of them not having the

986
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 17: ability or the plays not being good plays, all that

987
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 17: kind of stuff. But like in the second drive, the

988
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 17: second drive of the game against the Bills, they had

989
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 17: like this Pinn and Poll concept where Lincoln pulled out

990
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 17: to the left and then the tight end and the

991
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 17: receiver were blocking down and then instead of Thomlinson going

992
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 17: to the outside support guy, he stopped to help the receiver,

993
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 17: and then the outside support guy made made the tackle.

994
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 17: If he goes and blocks and just gets in the

995
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 17: weight of the of the outside of support player, it's

996
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 17: a foot race to the end zone between Knine and

997
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 17: the safety who's on the on the opposite hash in

998
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 17: the in the secondary. So same kind of thing happened

999
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 17: in Detroit, like on the first or second series going

1000
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 17: the other way, and it was Bradford that decided to

1001
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 17: stop and help JSN versus going and get the linebacker.

1002
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 17: It would have been a sixty to seventy yard touchdown run.

1003
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 17: So it's just like those little types of things that

1004
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 17: just keep popping up. That just keeps going to running

1005
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 17: game down.

1006
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: Hey, Ray, tell me a little bit.

1007
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 4: You and I both have trouble sleeping after a game,

1008
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 4: apparently because we're texting each other at like three am.

1009
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, I know I can always count on ready

1010
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: to be awake if I want.

1011
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 3: To talk to somebody, but are watching film?

1012
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly what.

1013
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 4: No, But as far as the run defense goes, let's

1014
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 4: say you're an offensive lineman and you look at it

1015
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 4: from that perspective, because one of the things you brought

1016
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: up Ray was it, you know, maybe are things too complicated?

1017
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: Just kind of posing that question, what do you see

1018
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: as far as that goes.

1019
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: Is it maybe a little bit too complicated or what

1020
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 4: are what are the problems there that you see?

1021
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 17: You know what I see, Davis. You're big dogs like

1022
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 17: I love, like all the podcasters are, and things still

1023
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 17: on all the Pro Football focus grades and the pressure

1024
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 17: rates and the win rates and all that kind of stuff,

1025
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 17: and none of that stuff matters if you're not getting

1026
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 17: guys to the ground, you know what I'm saying. And

1027
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 17: when I look at the guys that need to do

1028
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 17: that more upfront, and you're looking at Murphy and you're

1029
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 17: looking at Reed and you're looking at Big Kat Williams, Like,

1030
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 17: I think they do a good job occupying double teams sometimes,

1031
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 17: but sometimes they need to defeat the double teams. And

1032
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 17: then when they get manned up, they have to win

1033
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 17: more than they lose. And then when I say win,

1034
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 17: I mean get the sack, get the tackle for the laws,

1035
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 17: get to get the tackle for the one or two

1036
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 17: yard game. And it's just not happening a whole lot.

1037
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 17: So they're like, you can go back and watch film.

1038
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 17: They're like, oh, man, Murphy got more pressure than I

1039
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 17: thought he got, or man, he was in you know,

1040
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 17: he was in position to make a tackle more than

1041
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 17: I thought he was. But I need you to make

1042
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 17: the sack and I need you to make the tackle.

1043
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 17: Like I think those types of things need to happen.

1044
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 17: Maybe some of the guys are getting too caught up

1045
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 17: into like the letter of the law of the assignment

1046
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 17: and forgetting that they got to be football players. They

1047
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 17: have to take on blocks, get off blocks, and make tackles.

1048
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 17: And so to me, when I watch the Buffalo FIM especially,

1049
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 17: there were times where uh Leonard and and Murphy were

1050
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 17: singled up and passed it in the in the pass rush,

1051
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 17: or in the run game. They have to win more

1052
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 17: of those battles and make the play. And I think

1053
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 17: that will then start to have an impact of a

1054
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 17: ripple effect on the defense because right now they're just

1055
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 17: everyone is like in the moments when they are doing

1056
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 17: their assignments right they're still getting gashed. And it's because

1057
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 17: no one is making the play. You're not dominating your assignment,

1058
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 17: you know what I'm saying. You're not like kicking the

1059
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 17: crap out of your assignment, you know, like you're you

1060
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 17: have to own it, like you know we've talked about before,

1061
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 17: Like you got to take the other dude's grass, like,

1062
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 17: you know what I'm saying, Like we're not just standing

1063
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 17: there playing two hand tag at the grass, like I'm

1064
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 17: trying to take your grass so that I can make

1065
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 17: the tackle right here. And I just don't see enough

1066
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 17: of that happening right now on defense.

1067
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 5: Ray, you you haven't heard of the the heavy leg

1068
00:44:51,440 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 5: waist bend. That's an inside Jogo texted me one day

1069
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 5: and I was talking about some of these analysts out there,

1070
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 5: and someone used a heavy leg waist bend to describe

1071
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 5: something that was going on. So he even't have me

1072
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 5: think about that when you talked about all these PFF guys. Sorry,

1073
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 5: inside just don't know what we're talking about right now.

1074
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: Now I'm intrigued. Yeah, I want to see that.

1075
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 6: I don't know what he's talking about, but.

1076
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 5: I like the I like the term take his grass

1077
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 5: because that's what football is in the trenches, right you

1078
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 5: are just trying to do somebody off the spot that

1079
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 5: they want to go to. And some of the evaluations

1080
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 5: I see with Haines, it's just that he's not strong

1081
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 5: enough to take somebody's grass. I know that males typically

1082
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 5: keep growing into they're like twenty four years old. Do

1083
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 5: you do you see that in him that eventually he

1084
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 5: can get there? Or is it just he has to

1085
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 5: adjust the way he plays the game.

1086
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 17: You know what I haven't uh when I watched him play, uh,

1087
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 17: because I haven't seen, like anybody else on the offensive

1088
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 17: line just driving somebody four yards off the ball. It's

1089
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 17: kind of hard for me to make the assessment that

1090
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 17: he's not strong enough. You know, he does have most

1091
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 17: of his weight up top, and so his legs are

1092
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 17: not you know, as big and round as like Bradford

1093
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 17: or Tomlinson's but so maybe he can gain some strength

1094
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 17: and power, but his pop off the ball, his explosion

1095
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 17: off the ball is good enough. His his his athleticism

1096
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 17: is good enough. I just think, Mike, like it's hard

1097
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 17: to find your rhythm to kind of get into any

1098
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 17: type of groove when you're alternating like that. Like you

1099
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 17: can do that at other positions, but offensive line, it

1100
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 17: just doesn't work when you're trying to have a position battle,

1101
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 17: when you're playing for real wins and real losses. That's

1102
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 17: something that you have to just go come hell of

1103
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 17: high water. Somebody might get hurt or not, but these

1104
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 17: dudes need to take a lot of reps full speed

1105
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 17: in the preseason in training camp, Like you need to

1106
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 17: know that you know that you know that you know

1107
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 17: that the person can do it, so you can get

1108
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 17: out there and just go with them. But this kind

1109
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 17: of alternating like every other series or every other quarter,

1110
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 17: it's just kind of hard to get in any kind

1111
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 17: of rhythm. And then your plan not to mess up

1112
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 17: versus plan to like actually go dominate someone. And when

1113
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 17: you're it's like, you know, if you see a picture

1114
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 17: that's throwing, uh, that's that usually you know, throws strikes

1115
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 17: and things, and all of a sudden he's kind of

1116
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 17: aiming the ball versus just going the ball, and you

1117
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 17: know a lot of times you give a lot of

1118
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 17: hits like that. So uh So to me, you have

1119
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 17: that working with Bradford and Haynes, it's like both of

1120
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 17: them are trying to play to be assignment correct so

1121
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 17: that they can stay in the game versus going out

1122
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 17: and plan to dominate somebody. And so I think that

1123
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 17: that that slight little nuance and the mental approach to

1124
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 17: it can change, you know, how you go about playing

1125
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 17: the game. And I think it may have impacted Haines

1126
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 17: in a way that he's not able to play with

1127
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 17: the explosion and the just the desire to just like

1128
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 17: always say, drive someone in the dirt because you're just

1129
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 17: because to do that you have to, like, you have

1130
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 17: to be going a million miles an hour, and so

1131
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 17: he might be going nine hundred thousand miles an hour,

1132
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 17: you know what I'm saying. And so that that one little,

1133
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 17: that one little difference is making a difference in what

1134
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 17: they think is power. Looks like all.

1135
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 3: Right, look into a little bit of a preview here

1136
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 3: in the final minute, ray uh the single biggest challenge

1137
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: of facing the Rams to you is going to be what.

1138
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 6: You know.

1139
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 17: To me, the biggest challenge for the Seahawks are the

1140
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 17: sea Hawks. You know. It's like you know when you

1141
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 17: I think when you posted uh during the game, like

1142
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 17: you know, what is the biggest problem? The biggest problem

1143
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 17: has been the Seahawks. Can they get off blocks and

1144
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 17: make tackles? Can they create room to run the football?

1145
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 17: When they can start to do that stuff, then you

1146
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 17: can say like, oh, okay, how is just gonna you know,

1147
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 17: be impacted by the people that are playing, But they

1148
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 17: have to be able to do the stuff the way

1149
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 17: they have planned to do it. And then also the

1150
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 17: other thing that the mental part of it is that

1151
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 17: you know they want to be a physical, tough football team. Well,

1152
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 17: at some point you got to you gotta be that.

1153
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 18: You know what I'm saying.

1154
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 17: It's like, right now they're not that they're on either

1155
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 17: side of the ball in the trenches. They're not a big, physical,

1156
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 17: dominating football team. It's not a big physical, dominating run game.

1157
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 17: And uh, and so you have to decide, you know,

1158
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 17: if that's what you need to be right now to

1159
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 17: be successful, maybe that's what you want to be in

1160
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 17: the future, but right now you might have to go like,

1161
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 17: maybe we're not that, maybe we're something else that we

1162
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 17: need to adjust to, and so to me the like

1163
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 17: for the rest of the season, at least for the

1164
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 17: next couple of games, the biggest challenge for the Seahawks

1165
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 17: are overcoming themselves and then and if they can show

1166
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 17: up and be who they want to be, and then

1167
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 17: we can say like, Okay, this is who they want

1168
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 17: to be. I guess a good football team. Here's the

1169
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 17: weakness in the strengths and all all this other kind

1170
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 17: of stuff perfectly said.

1171
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 3: You can hear more from Ray on the pre and

1172
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 3: post game show this Sunday.

1173
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 17: Thanks Ray, Thanks right, Yes, you guys have to go.

1174
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: With It's a huge divisional matchup and a chance to

1175
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: enter the buye with a winning record. So let's ask

1176
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: Steve Rabel, the voice of the Hawks, about his key

1177
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: to a win.

1178
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: Next this This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon

1179
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: to two settles.

1180
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

1181
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: and Stacy Ross. We're gonna bring on Steve Rabel, Voice

1182
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: the Seahawks here in just a moment. We are wondering

1183
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: about the biggest challenge in facing the Rams, and we

1184
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: asked Ray Roberts that in our last segment, and Ray said,

1185
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 3: the biggest challenge for the Seahawks is beating the Seahawks,

1186
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 3: not being the worst version of yourself. Bump, when you

1187
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: look ahead to the Rams, is that kind of how

1188
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 3: you see this one? Is there another big challenge that

1189
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 3: you see.

1190
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 5: From La nah I see Matthew Stafford, Cooper Cup, Pooka

1191
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 5: Nakula Fisk, I see Kobe Turner.

1192
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 6: I see a whole bunch of problems on the other side.

1193
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: Man.

1194
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 5: They're playing like a young, hungry team on defense, and

1195
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 5: that's dangerous, especially when you got a group a group

1196
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 5: of young guys on the defensive line, one to two

1197
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 5: years experience tops there and they play with a chip

1198
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 5: on their shoulders.

1199
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean beating themselves.

1200
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 5: Obviously you have to be efficient, but there are some

1201
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 5: some dogs on the other side of the ball.

1202
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: Let's bring the voice of the Seahawks, ty Rabe along

1203
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 3: with us right now, Raves, how's it going great?

1204
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 18: And Bump just answered my question, So there you go.

1205
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 18: You don't need to hear from me.

1206
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 4: I was going to say, speaking of people that beat themselves.

1207
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly every day.

1208
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: Every day, Ravees, We're happy to have you here and

1209
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 3: uh and I got to be honest. Outside of the bye,

1210
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: it is a tough slate of games for Seattle as

1211
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: they get into this divisional play. The good news is

1212
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: everyone is kind of crowded in the NFC West. No

1213
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: one team has been able to pull away. How can

1214
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: the Seahawks do that against the Rams?

1215
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 18: Well, first of all, score more points that that's really

1216
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 18: the easiest answer, but it's a lot more difficult than that.

1217
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 18: And as as Bump was saying, you know, this is

1218
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 18: this This Rams team has really kind of rebuilt itself

1219
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 18: over the last two years. I mean it used to

1220
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 18: be the team. The defense used to be built around

1221
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 18: Aaron Donald. I mean everything kind of went through him,

1222
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 18: and now he's retired. But they've got again young guys

1223
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 18: up front. Two of them are starters who are in

1224
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 18: their first year, their rookies, two more in their second year,

1225
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 18: and just one in his fourth year. So they got

1226
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 18: a really young front group and they're all really athletic,

1227
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 18: and Sean McVay lets them, you know, lets the defensive

1228
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 18: coordinator and the defense kind of do their thing, and

1229
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 18: he's a gurule on offense. So you have all these

1230
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 18: young guys on defense, and then you turn flip the

1231
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 18: page on the other side and you got these You know,

1232
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 18: you got a sixteen year Vetic quarterback who is pretty

1233
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 18: much unrivaled and getting the ball out of his hands, quickly,

1234
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 18: reading defenses, understanding what teams are trying to do to him.

1235
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 18: You know, they're three and four, and the reason they

1236
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 18: are is because they were missing two of their biggest

1237
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 18: weapons for the first part of the season. Those guys

1238
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 18: are back and that makes them triply more dangerous.

1239
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 4: Graves, what do you think about the trade with the

1240
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 4: Ernest Jones? I mean, it was small sample size, but

1241
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 4: I think you know when you and I were calling

1242
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: the game that you know, there was a couple of

1243
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 4: times where you made comments about him stepping up and

1244
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 4: just being a little bit more physical, and looks like

1245
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 4: that was a pretty good move, especially considering you know,

1246
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 4: I saw that Jerome Baker didn't play this week and

1247
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 4: he was at Ernest was able to get over here

1248
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 4: and fit right in.

1249
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 18: It seemed like, yeah, And that's interesting because both play

1250
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 18: Both US and Tennessee play a similar defense because it

1251
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 18: was Mike's defense in Baltimore. Everybody, most people know, and

1252
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 18: that's what Tennessee is playing right now. So and I

1253
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 18: you know, also, Bake, Remember he has been kind of

1254
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 18: dealing with some injuries through the early part of the season,

1255
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 18: and I don't know, I don't think he still was

1256
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 18: healthy even when he tried to come back and play.

1257
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 18: Joe's on the other hand, and I only say this

1258
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 18: because this is what the kids say, but he's a dog.

1259
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 18: I mean, this guy can play.

1260
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: I don't even think you just ruined that phrase.

1261
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 18: I don't even know what that means. But when I

1262
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 18: was younger, it was, man, this guy is really a

1263
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 18: good player. So that's what we said. But it doesn't

1264
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 18: sound nearly as cool as he's a dog. But this

1265
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 18: guy can play. And what did he mean? He was

1266
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 18: like fifteen tackles or some ridiculous number, and he would

1267
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 18: still probably say yeah, But there were a couple of

1268
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 18: them that I didn't turn the playback in, or that

1269
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 18: I didn't take the right angle. That's going to come

1270
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 18: with learning the guys around him. Remember, a whole new

1271
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 18: group of players. They're playing in front of him and

1272
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 18: playing beside him, so he'll be fine, He's the last

1273
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 18: person I'm worried about. It's just getting everybody else to

1274
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 18: continue to progress, to be on the same page, and

1275
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 18: I still think there are times we're not there yet,

1276
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 18: especially on defense, Raybo.

1277
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 5: Are you surprised that the trade talks for Matthew Stafford

1278
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 5: and Cooper Cuff have quieted down a little bit after

1279
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 5: they put together a couple wins.

1280
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 18: Listen, I don't know where those trade talks came from.

1281
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 18: I guarantee you that they really didn't come from inside

1282
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 18: the building. Everybody, every GM will say, well, you know, yeah,

1283
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 18: I will listen if somebody calls, but don't can't imagine

1284
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 18: that they were serious about that. First of all, who

1285
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 18: do they have to replace those guys? You don't trade

1286
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 18: somebody unless you're a in the toilet and you're getting

1287
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 18: ready for next year or the years after. And the

1288
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 18: Rams have always been sort of you know, hey, we're

1289
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 18: a couple of players the way getting healthy from being

1290
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 18: where we've been the last few years, and those guys

1291
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 18: are back now. So no, I never put a whole

1292
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 18: lot of credence in any of that stuff. And then

1293
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 18: when you saw them against the Vikings, you saw they're

1294
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 18: almost back to where they were, and unfortunately Poop and

1295
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 18: the Kua and Cooper Cup have this this week now

1296
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 18: to get even healthier and get back into the swing

1297
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 18: of things. So we're going to have to play our

1298
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 18: best game, I think defensively, because that's what the demands

1299
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 18: of the Rams offense are.

1300
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: Where do you do Most of those improvements need to

1301
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 3: come defensively. I don't mean just against the run, but

1302
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: maybe one position group that's that's going to have to

1303
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 3: take a step forward, you know what.

1304
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 18: And I think this is interesting and big, and I

1305
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 18: talked about this a little bit before we did our

1306
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 18: podcast yesterday which we just take which is fascinating. By

1307
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 18: the way, I got to tell you guys are really

1308
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 18: blessed and we all are to have Ray as a

1309
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 18: part of this group. He is such a terrific spokesperson.

1310
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 18: He talked a lot about his own mental health issues

1311
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 18: and why he's so involved now. Anyway, I just bring

1312
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 18: that up because his declaration yesterday he said, you know,

1313
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 18: when I looked at at us running the ball or

1314
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 18: us defending against the ball, he said, it's not just

1315
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 18: one big thing. He said, running the ball, for instance,

1316
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 18: it's one guy slides off the block, or one guy

1317
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 18: doesn't get to the right spot to cut off somebody,

1318
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 18: and it's somebody different every time. And I think when

1319
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 18: you look at the defense, you're going to find the

1320
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 18: same thing. It's going to be a mistackle here. How

1321
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 18: many tackles has Spoon missed all season? Almost none until

1322
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 18: this last week, and we saw him get shedded a

1323
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 18: couple of times, three or four times maybe untackled, so

1324
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 18: really unusual kind of stuff. Sometimes that happens because they

1325
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 18: all haven't played their best game together yet. And when

1326
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 18: that happens, look out. I think they're going to be

1327
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 18: a formidable unit. But I think everybody has to take

1328
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 18: responsibility for making those plays individually. If I don't let

1329
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 18: my end of things down, then I know we're going

1330
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 18: to be better as a defense. And if everybody thinks

1331
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 18: that way, then that's when you start playing that lockdown deed.

1332
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: Hey, Raps, you talked to McDonald once a week, right,

1333
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: just the weekend, twice a week, do you yeah?

1334
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 4: Tell us like he seems very steady and he's never

1335
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 4: broken character, I mean, no panic button pushing. It just

1336
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 4: seems like he is one of the more calm coaches

1337
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 4: in the league.

1338
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: What have you noticed about him.

1339
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 18: That exactly that that he knows that it's a process.

1340
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 18: And when you start to hear kind of the same

1341
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 18: words from a lot of different people, John, you this

1342
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 18: is that, John Schneider, this is a process. I don't

1343
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 18: think anybody expected, although we were sure hoping that was

1344
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 18: going to happen overnight, and after three wins to start

1345
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 18: the season, we thought, yeah, man, these guys have already

1346
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 18: figured it out. Well, maybe not quite so much. And

1347
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 18: now that there's tape out there, after about the first

1348
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 18: two or three games, teams start looking at okay, here's

1349
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 18: what they're doing. In Mike McDonald's defense, but that said,

1350
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 18: you know, we can find some ways to attack that.

1351
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 18: I think that's what you're going to see out of

1352
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 18: the Rams this week. Teams are attacking us in the alleys,

1353
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 18: they're attacking us with tight ends on crossing routes, and

1354
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 18: they're attacking us on cutback runs. So you're going to

1355
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 18: see the Rams do a lot of that this week.

1356
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 18: But Mike really stays kind of even keeled and just says,

1357
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 18: you know, we know what we have to do. And

1358
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 18: he said, if he said it on Wednesday, said, if

1359
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,959
Speaker 18: I was a fan, I'd expect progress too, but he said,

1360
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 18: that's what we expect out of every practice, every day.

1361
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 18: And he said, you can't jump over you can't jump

1362
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 18: over steps to get there. In other words, we can't

1363
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 18: just throw out what we've been doing and say, okay,

1364
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 18: let's just load up with the line of scrimmage and

1365
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 18: we'll blitz eight times out of ten and see if

1366
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 18: we can bring some pressure, because then that opens up

1367
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 18: a whole other can of worms for you. You have

1368
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 18: to kind of stick with what got you there and

1369
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 18: that process. So in that respect, he is as steady

1370
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 18: as the day is long. And it's going to come around,

1371
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 18: he said, we expect it. We know what's going to happen.

1372
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Speaker 18: He has faith in those guys.

1373
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: He is the voice of the Seahawks Steve Raybill. Hear

1374
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: him on the call this Sunday alongside Dave Wyman.

1375
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 18: Thanks rapes, Okay, guys, thank you.

1376
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Leonard Williams a leader on the defense that'll face

1377
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 3: one of its biggest challenges Sunday is speaking to reporters.

1378
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 3: Let's find out what he thinks about the Rams next.

1379
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: This This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to

1380
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 2: two on Seattle sports.

1381
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 3: He's one of the most important pieces on the defensive line.

1382
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: You got to hear from him. Leonard Williams speaking with reporters. Now,

1383
00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: when you.

1384
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 14: Watch this your team, what are the indicators that the

1385
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 14: defense is just about to turn the corner?

1386
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 12: I mean, to me, the indicators are that we showed

1387
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 12: that we can do it. You know, we showed that

1388
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 12: we can stop the run. We showed that we can

1389
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 12: stand up in the red zone. We showed that we

1390
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 12: can pass rush when it's third down. To me, it's

1391
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 12: all about just making it consistent and Uh, I think

1392
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 12: that comes with just the mindset. We can't have too

1393
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 12: many highs and lows throughout a game, throughout a season.

1394
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 12: I think we just have to understand as players and

1395
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 12: as a team that there's you know, the other team

1396
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 12: is gonna make plays, We're gonna make mistakes, You're gonna

1397
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 12: have wins and losses throughout a game and throughout a season,

1398
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 12: and I think we just have to be consistently ourselves

1399
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 12: and not ride the waves of emotion.

1400
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: What do you make of the inconsistency and run defense.

1401
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 12: Uh, to me, it's partly I think in times when

1402
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 12: you're trying to correct something for a few weeks in

1403
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 12: a row. You know, there's a lot of competitors on

1404
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 12: this team, so you know there's there's guys who feel like,

1405
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 12: you know, they want to put it on their shoulders,

1406
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 12: which is respectable. You know, everyone's competitors. They want to

1407
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 12: feel like they can be the guy to make the play.

1408
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 12: But I think in times like that, we end up

1409
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 12: doing trying to do other people's jobs, and that kind

1410
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 12: of affects the rest of the defense. So I think

1411
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 12: in these times it's like like goes back to that

1412
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 12: consistency of just like just consistently do your job and

1413
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 12: eventually we'll all come together as eleven.

1414
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 15: Are you talking about that feeling kind of happening in

1415
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 15: the moment where a guy will abandon his responsibility to

1416
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 15: try to.

1417
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:44,479
Speaker 1: Make a point.

1418
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, Like I'll use myself as an example, like, say,

1419
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 12: my gap is the B gap, and I feel like

1420
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 12: they're zoning to the right but trying to cut back

1421
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 12: every time. So instead of me just staying in my

1422
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 12: B gap because I felt they were running it on it,

1423
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 12: so now I'm going to try to play the B

1424
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 12: gap and the A gap instead of just dominating the

1425
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 12: B gap, I'm now trying to do two things at once,

1426
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 12: and I think sometimes things like that start to happen

1427
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 12: once you kind of have the stress of things happening

1428
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 12: over and over. So, you know, I think it's just

1429
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 12: more about us getting back to the basics, trusting our

1430
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 12: teammate that they're going to do their job, and everyone

1431
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 12: keep it ruining.

1432
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 13: You mentioned the pass prushure earlier. How important is it

1433
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 13: for you guys could do the early down stuff so

1434
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 13: you can get a chance to get those start downs

1435
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 13: where you can get after it.

1436
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 12: I mean, that's the most important thing, you know. I've

1437
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 12: been trying to talk to ad about that, trying to

1438
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 12: talk to the rest of the pass rushes on the

1439
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 12: team about that. And you know, we always talk about

1440
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 12: earning the right to rush the passer, and that's really

1441
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 12: what it is. It's like you have to earn that right.

1442
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 12: It's like, if if we're not stopping the run and

1443
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 12: if we're not putting them in situations where we can

1444
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 12: rust the passion, it's hard to get to the quarterback.

1445
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 12: I think we showed it early in the season. We

1446
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 12: had like a high pressure rating team and things like

1447
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 12: that because we're putting ourselves in situations but the last

1448
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 12: few weeks that they've been allowed to run the ball,

1449
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 12: it's been harder for us to get to the quarterback.

1450
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 15: Going back to the idea of guys who need to

1451
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 15: trust in each other, how much of that do you

1452
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 15: think is a product of your installing a new scheme

1453
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 15: right now?

1454
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: And is there some maybe uncertainty in that as well?

1455
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 12: I mean, I think there's definitely like some growing pains

1456
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 12: whenever you're on a new scheme, new staff, a lot

1457
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 12: of new guys. Even in these seats, you know, like

1458
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 12: the player wise, we're all kind of getting to know

1459
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 12: each other, getting to know the system, and you know,

1460
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 12: I think that takes a lot of leadership on the

1461
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 12: players to try to have everyone just keep coming together.

1462
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 8: When you're three and oh, it's easy for new players

1463
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 8: to believe in the system.

1464
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 9: Do you see belief in the system for losing for

1465
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 9: losses in five games? Is that an issue?

1466
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 12: I don't think so. I think the way the guys

1467
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 12: approach every week, I feel like that's one thing that

1468
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 12: has been consistent that I've been proud of. As you know,

1469
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 12: even after a loss, like guys are coming in here

1470
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 12: like heads held high, pretty optimistic that we still have

1471
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 12: a good team, and I believe we do. You know,

1472
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 12: I try to talk to some of the guys about

1473
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 12: that the other day that you know, the hard part

1474
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 12: is getting the guys in the building to get the

1475
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 12: job done. And I feel like we got that, Like

1476
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 12: we we I believe we have the talent to get

1477
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 12: the job done. And uh, I think, you know, it

1478
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 12: takes the players to keep the unity and just that leadership.

1479
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 19: How much is good run defense about talent on the field.

1480
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 19: How much of it's about discipline, assignment correctness, how much

1481
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 19: of it's about to play call?

1482
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 12: I mean, I think the majority of it is discipline,

1483
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 12: to be honest, play calling is like how many defensive

1484
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 12: coaches like, there's only so much defensive schemes you could run.

1485
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 12: So after a while, it's like, you know, it's the

1486
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 12: joke about being a copycat league. It's like, in the

1487
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 12: end of the day, everyone kind of runs the same

1488
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 12: run plays, Everyone runs the same run defenses and stuff

1489
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 12: like that. You see, guys, you see teams with less

1490
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 12: talent sometimes stop the run versus teams with great talent.

1491
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 12: So to me, it's all about discipline.

1492
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 19: Have you seen have you been on a defense that's

1493
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 19: had this kind of struggle against one part of the

1494
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 19: faceted defense and then been able to turn it around.

1495
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, It's definitely happened multiple times in my career, to

1496
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 12: be honest, and and you know, I've been a part

1497
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 12: of great defensive lines and we've allowed too much rushing

1498
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 12: yards and you know that same defensive line later down

1499
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 12: the week, or front seven defense, whatever it is, we

1500
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 12: eventually figured it out and stop the issue. So I

1501
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 12: think that's one thing that we've been trying to address

1502
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 12: the team about this year. I mean right now, we've

1503
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 12: been trying to address the team that, like, you know,

1504
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 12: it's still all ahead of us, and I believe everyone

1505
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 12: believes that as well.

1506
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 13: What have you seen from marce Jones so far? I

1507
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 13: know it's only been here a week, but what's he showing?

1508
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 12: You Just want to a great mindset of just attacking,

1509
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 12: which I love that from a linebacker. You know, he

1510
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 12: came in right away, just showed a lot of good

1511
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 12: hard work and uh, like he also knows football pretty well.

1512
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 12: So he's also starting to get more comfortable and speaking up.

1513
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 12: So I've been learning him as a player, uh, as

1514
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 12: a person more outside of just a player. But I

1515
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 12: think he's gonna he's a great pick up for us.

1516
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 6: I think it's been.

1517
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 14: About a year, almost exactly a year since you arrived

1518
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Speaker 14: from Seattle.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, how would you run the same outside?

1520
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 14: How would you reflect all the year?

1521
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 12: Uh, I'll say it went by really fast. It's like

1522
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 12: crazy that we're already at this point in the season.

1523
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 12: I feel like it went by really fast. But I'm

1524
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 12: happy with the direction that we're heading. You know, I

1525
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 12: believe in this organization. I believe in the players that

1526
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 12: we have, and like I said, I believe we have

1527
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 12: what it takes and it's not too late to just

1528
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 12: keep going for it.

1529
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 16: A little just to strigle back when you said good

1530
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 16: run defenses predicated on discipline, you're talking about discipline in

1531
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 16: your assignment. Yes, yeah, Just to follow off of that

1532
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 16: on put of communication between the players.

1533
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 6: In that yeah, I do say.

1534
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 12: That's where this defense varies versus other defenses, is like,

1535
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 12: we're a type of defense that likes the whole the

1536
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 12: pen last. So with that being said, it's like we're

1537
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 12: making a lot of checks based off of, you know,

1538
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 12: offensive motions and like the way the offense is said,

1539
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 12: whether they're into the boundary or formation to the field

1540
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 12: and things like that. So I think this defense does

1541
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 12: require a lot more communication than others who would just say,

1542
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 12: you know, this is the call, get in it. We

1543
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 12: have like two or three calls in one that can

1544
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 12: change depending on what the offense is given us. So

1545
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 12: I think that requires a lot more discipline and communication

1546
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 12: amongst the players, especially in loomingfield when it's loud out there.

1547
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 12: You know, we have to figure out nonverbal ways of communication.

1548
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 13: You got your vote shirt on?

1549
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 6: Why is that important you?

1550
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 12: I mean, it's obviously right around the corner, got my

1551
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 12: vote shirt. I think it's important. Every vote matters, honestly,

1552
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 12: don't feel like it doesn't matter, and you know it's important.

1553
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 6: That's all I got to say.

1554
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 8: Communication with the three plays in one, where do you

1555
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,480
Speaker 8: think some of the problems on defense.

1556
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 9: Are stemming from?

1557
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 12: That could be, But you know, I think it's, like

1558
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 12: I said, based on discipline. But I think the coaches

1559
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 12: that have been doing a good job of feeling like

1560
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 12: if it is too much on our plate to communicate

1561
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 12: that much and change that much, then you know, they

1562
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 12: try to pull back in certain areas where they give

1563
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 12: us a little less on our plate so we can

1564
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 12: play fast and that you know, like I said, that

1565
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 12: takes leadership from the players as well to give feedback

1566
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 12: to the coaches if we feel like it's too much,

1567
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 12: you know by Friday Saturday, if we're not feeling high

1568
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 12: speed on any call, we need to communicate that with

1569
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 12: the coaches. And you know, with this coaching staff, knowing

1570
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 12: that this is you know, we have a younger coaching staff.

1571
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 12: I thought they've been very open and not just open,

1572
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 12: but they've been wanting that feedback from the players. So

1573
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 12: I think, you know, I'm always big on like this

1574
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 12: is a player's team in the end of the day,

1575
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 12: and it's always on us to take it where we

1576
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 12: want to.

1577
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 3: All right, let's jump back to the Seahawks with Seahawks

1578
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 3: dot Com reporter John Boyle. He joins us next.

1579
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 2: This is the huddle every Thursday from noon to two

1580
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 2: on Seattle Sports.

1581
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 3: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael

1582
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 3: Bump as Stacy Rost and joining us right now Seahawks

1583
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 3: dot Com reporter John Boyle. Hi, John, how's it going.

1584
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 13: It's going very well?

1585
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 4: Thank you?

1586
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: How are you?

1587
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good. I think I'm better because the

1588
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 3: rest of the NFC West is all kind of in

1589
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 3: the same place. It'd be tough to talk about a

1590
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 3: team when they were struggling and trailing everyone else, but

1591
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 3: this teams still tied for first. Let's talk about how

1592
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 3: they enter the bye with a win, though it'll have

1593
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 3: to be against the Rams.

1594
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1595
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 3: What did you see from a much healthier Rams squad

1596
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,919
Speaker 3: in their last outing, that being against the Vikings?

1597
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 13: I believe Yeah, I mean, a that's just a really

1598
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 13: good win to go be Vikings. But I mean you

1599
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 13: get those two receivers back in Nakua and Cooper Cup

1600
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 13: like that changes their offense drastically, And just go look

1601
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 13: at Stafford's numbers. I think he had three touchdowns on

1602
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 13: the season before that game, emew four in the game.

1603
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 13: So yeah, I mean they're they're Unfortunately for the Seahawks,

1604
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 13: they look like they're kind of getting right. I mean,

1605
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 13: they look like they're dead in the water. They're what

1606
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 13: one win team?

1607
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:31,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, thats great.

1608
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 13: People were talking about and I think I trade all

1609
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 13: these guys and then two good wins in a row

1610
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 13: and all of a sudden they're right there knocking on

1611
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 13: the door.

1612
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 4: John, what did you hear about the Ernest Jones performance,

1613
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 4: you know, from from different coaches and players and himself.

1614
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, I think the consensus is like he

1615
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 13: did a lot of really good things and is very impressive,

1616
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 13: especially in when you consider he flew in Wednesday night

1617
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 13: practice Thursday Friday and then played every snap. But everyone

1618
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 13: else Jones included, is like, there's a lot more, you know,

1619
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 13: there's rooim to be better. They expect more as he

1620
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 13: gets more comfortable with the defense. And really for Tyrol

1621
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 13: Dawson too, because he moved over it a week's out

1622
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 13: of linebacker for that game. So both those guys, I

1623
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 13: think you'll see take a whole.

1624
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 6: Week this week.

1625
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: That's crazy. He won the snaps. Yeahah, yeah, he's one

1626
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: of three guys. Yeah, I mean, is that how you

1627
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: use somebody they needed?

1628
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 6: Man?

1629
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 3: That's kicking someone into a playmaker, You throw him in there.

1630
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 5: I was watching him trying to see how many times

1631
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 5: he would look to his right or left for some

1632
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 5: help early in the game, and I caught it a

1633
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 5: few times. I go, and that's what you expect, right,

1634
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 5: he knows football, he knows the game.

1635
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 6: But I'm sure there was a justman period.

1636
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 13: He talked about that like he fully expects like he's

1637
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 13: gonna be able to play faster and just do more

1638
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 13: because it was just such a whirlwind of a week

1639
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 13: to get game ready DK.

1640
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:47,799
Speaker 6: We don't know if he's back yet.

1641
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: We don't.

1642
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 5: We're I'm assuming he's gonna play.

1643
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean optimistic as the word makes.

1644
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 5: He's right these a couple of times we we clearly

1645
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 5: saw his value to this team. I think Gino didn't

1646
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,799
Speaker 5: have one pass throwing twenty yards against the Bills last week,

1647
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 5: So you know, there are people trying to figure out,

1648
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 5: what are you gonna do with DK? I think the

1649
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 5: powers that be will handle that, But it was clear

1650
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 5: how important DK is to this offense.

1651
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 6: How different did it look to you?

1652
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, look that you talk to anybody, you know, coaches, players,

1653
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 13: They're going to say, with or without DK, we need

1654
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 13: to play better, we need to find the red you know,

1655
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 13: scoring the reds on all that stuff. But I mean,

1656
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 13: the guy is he is one of one in terms

1657
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 13: of what he brings to it offense physically, speed, size, physicality,

1658
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 13: and you know, not just the plays and the production

1659
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 13: he gives you. I think he was third in the

1660
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 13: league and receiving going into the last week. It's also

1661
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 13: the threat he represents. I mean, he changes how teams

1662
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 13: defend the Seahawks. So yeah, I mean, you're gonna miss

1663
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 13: a guy like that, no matter how well everyone else

1664
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 13: around you plays. You missed that what he can bring.

1665
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: To an offense.

1666
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 3: I think when you look back at the last several

1667
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 3: meetings between these two teams, the Rams have unfortunately been

1668
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 3: able to get the better of the Seahawks, and so

1669
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 3: much of that has been coaching and Sean McVay and

1670
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 3: everything he does that's so special, with that scheme, with

1671
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 3: that offense, and as a play caller. There are a

1672
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 3: couple of games where the Seahawks have entered it and

1673
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 3: I've thought, well, wait a minute, this is a new

1674
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 3: coaching staff, Like how much can I really lean on

1675
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 3: the past. However, I kind of feel like this is

1676
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 3: gonna be yet another huge challenge and it's uh. I

1677
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 3: don't think it's not giving Mike McDonald enough credit to

1678
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 3: say he's gonna have his hands full.

1679
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 13: Well yeah, I mean, look, Sean McVay has been one

1680
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 13: of the best offensive play callers and designers since he

1681
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 13: got in the league. And you know, you're right, has

1682
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 13: different scheme, different coaches and all that, but this is

1683
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 13: still defense that's finding this way. They've been very up

1684
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 13: and down and they know that, like, if they don't

1685
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 13: play a lot better than they did last week, it's

1686
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 13: gonna be a very tough day for them. So they

1687
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 13: need to. I mean, a big theme we're here from

1688
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 13: players is like, you got to win those early downs

1689
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 13: because for the cool stuff that we saw for Mike

1690
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 13: mcdall's defense last year when they're at their best and

1691
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 13: even this year is like you get teams in third

1692
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 13: and long and you can get these exotic, you know,

1693
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 13: disguised pressures and do all this fun stuff, Like you

1694
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 13: can't do that if you're not stopping.

1695
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 1: Their own girls going dressed as tonight.

1696
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 13: Oh man. So we got the youngest is a Butterfly

1697
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 13: and then the older two. I don't pay attention to

1698
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 13: what's on Disney these days, but there's these shows movies

1699
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 13: called The Descendants and their characters from that. Yeah, I

1700
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 13: guess it's very popular about a few of those. Yeah, yeah,

1701
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 13: they're Yeah, I'm very out of touch, but I guess

1702
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 13: those are cool. And that's what the older two are being.

1703
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 5: You know what, I would encourage you to sit down

1704
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 5: and watch because they're gonna they send.

1705
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 6: Some jokes for us.

1706
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 5: There's subliminals in their front.

1707
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 13: I do get that they play the music a lot,

1708
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 13: so unfortunately got some of the songs stuck in my

1709
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 13: heavy floret.

1710
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 6: Do you dress up or I'm gonna just.

1711
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 13: Walk around you Probably what I'm wearing right now, jeans

1712
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 13: and a sweatshirt.

1713
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you do the mom dad candy tacks? Because

1714
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 3: I didn't know this was a thing. Bump told me

1715
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 3: earlier that you will literally take candy from a child,

1716
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 3: your child.

1717
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, that's part of why you have kids.

1718
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Yeah, they try to hide them and

1719
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: you know where the spots.

1720
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 13: Are, Like, no, I know the best stuff.

1721
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 3: I'm gonna Okay, what are you taking first?

1722
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 13: Probably maybe something from Larice's family. I like the peanut

1723
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 13: butter and chocolate combo. Peanut M and m's are always

1724
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 13: solid too.

1725
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 6: You know what I just realized right now?

1726
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 5: My mom used to say I have to check your candy,

1727
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 5: and that's what she was doing.

1728
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 17: Yeah right now.

1729
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 13: They made me think it was for safety because people

1730
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 13: are sticking razor blades and syringes in candy, But no,

1731
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 13: they're just taking.

1732
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 3: I don't have memories of my mom taking my candy.

1733
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 3: But I also think that's because kids and adults like

1734
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 3: different candy. Like you think I wanted anything to do

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01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 3: with an Almond Joy when it was in my candy bag?

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01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. I thank you. I still don't. I don't

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01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 3: want anything to do with that.

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01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 5: What's your what's your take on Twizzlers?

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01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 13: They're fine?

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01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 3: No they're not.

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01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:42,839
Speaker 13: I don't have a strong.

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01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: They're old, they're older, they're from nineteen twenty nine.

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01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 13: Okay, I guess they're gross. I mean, I wouldn't you

1744
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 13: give me a pile of candy. I'm not picking that.

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01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 3: We were asked earlier to describe the Seahawks as a

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01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 3: Halloween radio I know it is. I'm getting back to football,

1747
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 3: and I said they were three Musketeers because three Musketeers

1748
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 3: is kind of a one dimensional candy. And it's fine,

1749
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 3: you'll watch that candy, you'll eat that candy, but you

1750
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 3: just wish it had one other thing. Translating back to football,

1751
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 3: here we go. I would love for the Seahawks to

1752
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 3: get the run going the past game, when they are

1753
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 3: able to get protection and when they aren't pinned back

1754
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 3: at third and long. Is is fine. It can be explosive,

1755
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 3: especially with the healthy dkay, but they haven't been able

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01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 3: to get the run. Do you see this as an

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01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,560
Speaker 3: opportunity to be able to try to establish that? Have

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01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 3: they made it clear like, look, we're really working on it.

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01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean that's it's been the goal for a

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01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 13: lot of games. Just that first series you get a

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01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 13: couple of battered balls. If maybe if you get a

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01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 13: first down there, you run. So it's so much as

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01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 13: run or pass, it's just getting a couple first downs

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01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 13: and getting the drive going. So yeah, but I mean

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 13: you you know, Gino Smith talked about this today like

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01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 13: it's not a fifty to fifty thing, but you want

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01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 13: to be able to do both when you need it,

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01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 13: and they do it. You need to do to move

1769
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 13: the ball. So it's to me, it's less about like, oh,

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01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 13: we have to run for eighty rs in the first

1771
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 13: half of the successful's like you just got to get

1772
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 13: sustained from drives and score some points so you're not

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01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 13: putting yourself in that hole. You then have to throw

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01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 13: the ball in the second half, and that's where you

1775
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 13: get in trouble.

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01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, it goes like three musketeers then milky way, they

1777
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 4: add the caramel.

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01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

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01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: So where's the offense right now?

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01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 13: Milk between the Yeah, because the pass game can be

1781
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 13: really good.

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01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 13: But yeah, you just I guess this is a run

1784
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 13: game the nuts.

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01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: Then Yeah, there you go.

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01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. You get, you get pretty soon

1787
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 3: you're the Lions. You got a run game. You can

1788
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 3: win in the past, you can win by running it

1789
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 3: all over people. You can control the lock.

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 13: You know what I mean.

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01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: This is the dumbest total No, it's not.

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01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 12: I'm glad.

1793
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to analysis. Each of you

1794
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 3: are going to have to answer a question, just like

1795
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 3: we wrap things up every single week. This way, uh bump,

1796
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 3: We're going to end with you. I'm sorry that you're

1797
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 3: going last. That's the hardest spot to have, but I

1798
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 3: believe in you.

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01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 7: Uh.

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01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 3: The Seahawks beat the Rams. If what.

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01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 13: I'm trying to think of a good way to like

1802
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 13: put this in a simple hermit, it's like, defensively win

1803
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 13: on early downs so you get those thres So maybe

1804
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 13: it's the key is like third and third and what

1805
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 13: x yards needs to be the average third down? But

1806
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 13: I just I really think we saw in Atlanta in

1807
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 13: the second half, like you start stopping the run, you

1808
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 13: start making teams throw when you know they're gonna throw,

1809
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 13: and that's where this defense can be deadly. So just

1810
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,560
Speaker 13: win on early downs, whether that's stopping the run or

1811
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 13: getting incomplete passes, whatever, but just get third and lungs

1812
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 13: where this defense can eat.

1813
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go specific. Hold them to sixty seven yards rushing.

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01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 6: That's very specific.

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01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, sixty seven.

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01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean look, just like you said, John, you know,

1817
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden you put it in the air.

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01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 4: I feel like our defensive backs are pretty pretty damn good,

1819
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 4: so you know, and especially in that that first game,

1820
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 4: we saw them play really well and tackle well.

1821
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm just obsessed with that part of it.

1822
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 4: Whenever anybody's like, what's going on with the Seahawks, Like,

1823
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 4: well they're run defense, you know, I always start there.

1824
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: So that's where I'll I'll go.

1825
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 5: How about you, bum, I'm gonna send use big race

1826
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 5: term take grass from the Young Bulls from Bobby Brown,

1827
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 5: from Kobe Turner from FI That D line is pretty

1828
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 5: dang good. If you can take grass from him, push

1829
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 5: them run game.

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Speaker 3: Is good and we're winning, all right, Well said, make

1831
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 3: sure you're reading John's coverage at seahawks dot com and

1832
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 3: listening to Dave on the call, obviously Michael Bumpus on

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01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 3: the pre and postgame show. This has been a puddle