Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving the Right? Episode three seventy eight.
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Speaker 1: let me just get right to straighten the voicemail, because
Speaker 1: before we even get to the actual show, I have
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Speaker 1: boost Mobile. Travis Kelcey evidently sings an album insert with
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. I don't really understand a lot of the
Speaker 1: words in that sentence of signs. That makes so much
Speaker 1: more sense, guys, Okay, I was so excited. I was like,
Speaker 1: he sings on her album. No, he signs. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: actually kind of cool. That makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 1: Titans Fire, Brian Callahan, how about that we can bet
Speaker 1: the Titans again? I might this week. If I'm telling
Speaker 1: you right now, right now they're getting seven against New
Speaker 1: England coach Bounce that it's to seven and a half.
Speaker 1: That could be in one of Knick's picks, Red Hot
Speaker 1: Knicks picks. By the way, four and one. I told
Speaker 1: you I promised on Demanday's life, I'd never bet on
Speaker 1: the Titans again until Callahan was fired. I didn't realize.
Speaker 1: So he finishes his head coaching career, and I think
Speaker 1: it's fair to say career because I don't know that
Speaker 1: he's getting another shot. Four and nineteen straight up, which
Speaker 1: is horrible but somehow worse than that four and nineteen
Speaker 1: against the spread. Vegas Is knows the Titans are bad,
Speaker 1: and it like that's bad, and Tua, we might actually
Speaker 1: do more on this. At some point in the show,
Speaker 1: Tua holds this press conference and it's the I don't
Speaker 1: I think the guy's name is Nathan Robinson. There's that
Speaker 1: meme where a hot dog car drives into Ah, I.
Speaker 2: Think you should leave, and the guy's wearing a hot
Speaker 2: dogs suit and then the guys wearing the hot dog suit.
Speaker 1: He's like, who did this? That's does to it not
Speaker 1: realize when he stands at the podium and he's like,
Speaker 1: lead our players only meetings have no leadership. That he's
Speaker 1: the hot dog suit guy, like, Buddy, you are the quarterback,
Speaker 1: which makes you a leader, the highest paid player on
Speaker 1: the team, which makes you the leader. You are the leader.
Speaker 2: That was crazy M and McDaniel like that tandem, like
Speaker 2: quarterback coach tannem has got to be the funniest one
Speaker 2: in like memory. Huh man, shout out.
Speaker 1: To Big Cat who made a point other people were
Speaker 1: afraid to make but he was correct, which is much
Speaker 1: like I don't know if you guys remember when it
Speaker 1: looked in twenty sixteen, when it looked like the Cavs
Speaker 1: were about to get dusted by the Warriors in the finals,
Speaker 1: before the greatest three game stretch by the greatest in
Speaker 1: history of the league. Lebron went to one of the
Speaker 1: press conferences. He had bought matching suits for everyone on
Speaker 1: the team, but they were Tom Brown suits, so they
Speaker 1: were suits that the pants were shorts, and he's and
Speaker 1: he's and so now they're down three to one, it
Speaker 1: looks like they're gonna lose again, and he's doing this
Speaker 1: press conference in this kind of odd looking suit, and
Speaker 1: it was like, man, like, it doesn't really play as
Speaker 1: well coming off a loss. That's what Big Cats said
Speaker 1: about Mike McDaniel and his Capri pants. And I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you, I only he's wrong. Let's shout out to
Speaker 1: Big Cat. Yeah yeah, all right, here's the thing before
Speaker 1: we get to the actual show, So I you know,
Speaker 1: there is a there is a great actually, you know what.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it was the Chief's Receipts
Speaker 1: account that tweeted this, but regardless, I'm scrolling Twitter and
Speaker 1: I sees one of these aggregators has posted the latest
Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Nation Power rankings for the NFL, and I'm
Speaker 1: so certain that it's bad information that I and just
Speaker 1: go to the website myself Google ESPN NFL Power Rankings.
Speaker 1: And again, I am not trying to take a shot
Speaker 1: at the good folks at ESPN, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to overstate anything, which is why it pains me to
Speaker 1: say this article that was posted at six forty five
Speaker 1: this morning that leads with welcome to Week seven of
Speaker 1: the NFL season. Jets are still winless, Chiefs bounced back,
Speaker 1: The Buccaneers are shockingly still atop the NFC race. How
Speaker 1: do all these teams fit in our updated power rankings?
Speaker 1: We restacked the NFL heading into week seven. Goes onto it.
Speaker 1: Our panel of more than eighty writers, editors, and TV
Speaker 1: personalities evaluated hal NFL team stack up against one another,
Speaker 1: ranking them from one to thirty two. Late breaking eighty
Speaker 1: person sample watched the NFL this weekend, saw what the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs did to Detroit. They had them at
Speaker 1: seven going into last week and dropped them to nine.
Speaker 1: They've watched football this weekend and said, the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: going into the Lions game. We thought they were the
Speaker 1: seventh best team at football. We've now seen it their ninth.
Speaker 1: Detroit is two. Buffalo, whose wins have come against teams
Speaker 1: that are combined three and twenty one is three. I
Speaker 1: don't want to overstate it when I say this is
Speaker 1: the single worst power ranking the history of sports media.
Speaker 1: Seeing like it. Week six result beat the Lions thirty
Speaker 1: to seventeen. Week six ranking seven, and then a little
Speaker 1: red arrow down what is happening? You had eighty people
Speaker 1: on this Nobody threw their body in front of this bus. Like, guys,
Speaker 1: I don't think this one's gonna pass the smell test here.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: It's not an error. Green listen, green Bay, Green Bay
Speaker 1: last week was eight on this thing. The Chiefs were seven.
Speaker 1: They watched Green Bay eeke past Joe Flacco and the Bengals,
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs dog walk the Lions and they're like,
Speaker 1: green Bay, you're six, now you jump them?
Speaker 2: What are we doing?
Speaker 1: Don't. I don't so Okay, amazing night of Monday night football,
Speaker 1: but we're not starting there. We're starting with well, go ahead, Demons.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, sick doubleheader last night and that led to
Speaker 2: two upsets. But yeah, you wanted to start with the Chiefs,
Speaker 2: who were three and three, lasted Rashid Rice's suspension state afloat,
Speaker 2: but they still have some ground to make up as
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 1: Here's the reason where, here's the here's the deal. All
Speaker 1: is right in the world again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty happy this one.
Speaker 1: He's And it's just everything's back the way it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be. You guys, check the latest MVB odds. Who's
Speaker 1: the favorite? Patrick go on hard Rock bet check the
Speaker 1: latest SUPERWL odds, who's the favorite the Chiefs? Everything's everything
Speaker 1: is the way it's supposed to be. And one and
Speaker 1: what is so gratifying about this is we don't. I
Speaker 1: thought the way this was going to go was all
Speaker 1: the folks that wrote the Chiefs obituary three weeks ago.
Speaker 1: We're going to have to answer for that commentary in
Speaker 1: January instead, because of how even with the loss nine
Speaker 1: days ago by the Chiefs, because of how the rest
Speaker 1: of the league has looked, and how Kansas City looked
Speaker 1: on National TV Sunday night. All those folks have to
Speaker 1: eat it immediately. We're not to Halloween yet, and they
Speaker 1: all have to be like, all right, I'm dumb, you're right,
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. It's so good, it's so much fun. And
Speaker 1: the fact that they're winning this way with the offense
Speaker 1: humming back to you're shocked when they don't get a
Speaker 1: touchdown Patrick doing Patrick things and they don't have their
Speaker 1: best offensive weapon not named Patrick Mahomes yet, and then
Speaker 1: you just you watch the rest of the league and
Speaker 1: and we'll get to these games. But you watch the
Speaker 1: Broncos do everything they can to try to lose to
Speaker 1: one of the worst teams I've ever seen in the Jets.
Speaker 1: You watch the Chargers do everything they can. Great play
Speaker 1: at the end by the Chargers, but the Chargers struggle
Speaker 1: with a Dolphins team that seems to actively hate each other.
Speaker 1: You watch the Bills what they did last night, the
Speaker 1: Eagles that are ripping themselves a part of the seams,
Speaker 1: the Lions, we saw them play. And the other reason
Speaker 1: I'm happy is, you know, the one team, Demonsey that
Speaker 1: you can hold up next to the Chiefs right now
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, what what are you? What's the
Speaker 1: what are you gonna say bad about this team? And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, there isn't anything the box the
Speaker 1: Bots who were going into the year, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 1: I had to eat it a lot those first couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. I had to come on here talk about
Speaker 1: all these concerns. I had to listen to the great
Speaker 1: my beloved Kevin Wilde's act like Andy Reid and Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey are not essentially family and worry about the fact
Speaker 1: that Andy bumped Travis. I do all that, and less
Speaker 1: than a month later, you know the other way, I
Speaker 1: know we're back because we're back to the refs. We
Speaker 1: are the Chiefs are okay, So let's talk about that
Speaker 1: real quick before we get into the actual game. Zero
Speaker 1: penalties zero in that game there, so there were Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the penalties part first, because that's what people
Speaker 1: are whining about. Five penalties were called in that game.
Speaker 1: One was called on Kansas City. For the record, it
Speaker 1: was declined, So they did throw a flag on the
Speaker 1: Chiefs when Chris Jones jumped off sides. It was declined.
Speaker 1: The four penalties called on Detroit were as follows. They
Speaker 1: didn't know the rules on their stupid trick play, and
Speaker 1: that was a black and white you were not set
Speaker 1: after being under center, have to call it. Then the
Speaker 1: Lions were so thrown off by the fact that that
Speaker 1: penalty was called. They got a delay of game on
Speaker 1: the extra point attempt because they didn't know what they
Speaker 1: were gonna do. So that's two. The third one was
Speaker 1: a clear as day took three steps and hit Mahomes
Speaker 1: in the head by Aiden Hutchinson. And the fourth one
Speaker 1: was a judgment call, but obviously the right call a
Speaker 1: past interference on Detroit. So it did the most subjective
Speaker 1: calls that there are illegal contact, defensive holding, offensive holding,
Speaker 1: illegal man downfield, those ones where you can be like
Speaker 1: that happens every play or whatever it was. There were
Speaker 1: zero called on either team the entire game. So the
Speaker 1: level of whining I expected from some of the media
Speaker 1: and certainly fans. But did you see Kirby Joseph First
Speaker 1: team All Pro last year. Kirby Joseph for the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions sent out twenty four tweets after the game whining
Speaker 1: about the refs. Get it together, Detroit.
Speaker 2: He's one safety study that came out.
Speaker 1: By the way, I have never seen Can I just
Speaker 1: say something that that that UTEP I paid the eight
Speaker 1: and here's so that UTEP study that, by the way,
Speaker 1: no one has read. Everyone has just read the news
Speaker 1: article about it. You know how I know because to
Speaker 1: read that study you got to subscribe to that journal,
Speaker 1: which either is going to cost a couple hundred bucks
Speaker 1: or you can pay eighteen dollars for twenty four hour access.
Speaker 1: Guess who paid the eighteen dollars for twenty four hour access?
Speaker 1: This guy hand up. Guess who didn't everyone else. It's
Speaker 1: one of the most ridiculous studies I've ever seen. The
Speaker 1: too long, didn't read version of it is the Chiefs
Speaker 1: have played the most playoff games, and therefore their opponents
Speaker 1: have been called for the most penalties. That like, give
Speaker 1: you it is, but I don't even give it. I
Speaker 1: don't care about that. I do care about high leverage spots. Again,
Speaker 1: the games you're on TV, thirty million people watch him,
Speaker 1: find me, find me the the call we're all mad about.
Speaker 1: But I don't even want to talk about it. I
Speaker 1: don't I'm gonna get I'm gonna get mad. That's not
Speaker 1: what today is for It's not for the idiots in
Speaker 1: El Paso. The so one Lion's safety took the loss
Speaker 1: so well, he went on tweet storm tweeting out photoshops
Speaker 1: of Mahomes kissing a RAF. The other lion's safety took
Speaker 1: the loss so well he hit Juju smith Schuster in
Speaker 1: the face and now he's going to have to miss
Speaker 1: a massive game against Tampa and then goes in the
Speaker 1: locker room. And I don't know if you guys watched
Speaker 1: that video, but it sure seemed like he was about
Speaker 1: to cry while saying and I quote, they were bullying
Speaker 1: me out there.
Speaker 2: And quote are you gleeing?
Speaker 1: Now? What you were bullied out there? Is this Sunday
Speaker 1: night football with the big bad Detroit Lions or a
Speaker 1: great recess? What are you talking about? You got bullied?
Speaker 1: Should Juju have to sit by himself at lunch? Is
Speaker 1: Patrick gonna have to miss the not get a juice
Speaker 1: box tomorrow? You got bullied. You're supposed to be the bullies.
Speaker 1: And instead of being the bullies. On fourth and goal
Speaker 1: to set the tone on your first drive of the
Speaker 1: game and handing the ball to David Montgomery from the
Speaker 1: six inch line, you pop Jared Goff out wide on
Speaker 1: a play because you're that you don't even know the
Speaker 1: rules on and throw them a pass. You got bullied.
Speaker 1: That's a bad look, buddy, that's a bad look. And
Speaker 1: if you are listen, the Lions are obviously a good team.
Speaker 1: I thought Chris Collinsworth made a correct point, which was
Speaker 1: there's a lot of cracks in the foundation if they're
Speaker 1: not playing from ahead, if all of a sudden it
Speaker 1: becomes a drop back passing game, and Jared Goff and
Speaker 1: those hands, the ball is put there, it's it's shaky.
Speaker 1: I think they're a very good team, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: And I think Dan Campbell was absolutely right when the
Speaker 1: way he said, I love Brian Branch, but that's unacceptable.
Speaker 1: Of course it's unacceptable. It's the professional football is very
Speaker 1: unique in this regard tomanse. You almost never see post
Speaker 1: game fights during the game shore and pregame occasionally, but
Speaker 1: the moment the game's over, what you normally see is embracing.
Speaker 1: The guys pray together, they come together, and it's it
Speaker 1: is similar to boxing in that regard, where guys can
Speaker 1: be going at it until the bell in the twelfth
Speaker 1: round and then immediately hug because there is an element
Speaker 1: of this shit is dangerous, man, and the you know,
Speaker 1: we have to get it right, the respect factor of
Speaker 1: all right, game's over, and so what Branch did and
Speaker 1: for it to be that level of cheap shot was bizarre.
Speaker 1: It was really bizarre. It started with Patrick trying to
Speaker 1: shake his hand he didn't want to, and then Juju.
Speaker 1: I don't know what Juju said or what happened, but
Speaker 1: he hit Juju in the face.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yeah, no, I mean he shouldn't. He shouldn't
Speaker 2: have done that. I didn't really see it as a
Speaker 2: chief shot. I think Juju knew that Do is probably
Speaker 2: coming up to hit him in the face.
Speaker 1: Dude, No way, no way, never see it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't think so. But all right, I want
Speaker 1: to talk about the chief side of this quickly before
Speaker 1: we move on. The only listen officially worried about Harrison Bucker.
Speaker 1: There's no way around it, and I and that makes
Speaker 1: me very concerned for a high leverage playoff spot. Oddly
Speaker 1: for the regular season, and I think you saw it
Speaker 1: last on Sunday night, there is a benefit to Buckker struggling.
Speaker 1: It is going to force Andy into being a little
Speaker 1: more aggressive on fourth down. So the Kansady Star had
Speaker 1: an article since Patrick took over, going into Sunday night,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs had faced eighty six different fourth and three
Speaker 1: or longers inside their own thirty and they had kicked
Speaker 1: a field goal all eighty six times, and then they
Speaker 1: went for it Sunday night. Now, part of that might
Speaker 1: have been because the Lions are such a potent offense,
Speaker 1: but the other piece of it is Bucker's not automatic
Speaker 1: at the moment, and I think the Chiefs being aggressive
Speaker 1: on fourth down is a net positive. I still think
Speaker 1: they need to trade for a running back. But Patrick
Speaker 1: now has full confidence in his offensive line, and Patrick
Speaker 1: with full confidence in his offensive line and its semi
Speaker 1: competent much less, what is about to be an excellent
Speaker 1: receiving corps immediately makes the Chiefs the most dangerous offensive
Speaker 1: football again immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead. And with that, Kelsey's had probably arguably
Speaker 2: his best game of the season. What do you expecting
Speaker 2: to see you from him?
Speaker 3: When Rice gets back and you got the whole game?
Speaker 1: Well, so that's so, now you're gonna listen. Juju has
Speaker 1: been awesome in his role. Yeah, but that's gonna be
Speaker 1: Rashie Rice's role, and now you're gonna have Rashi Rice
Speaker 1: doing some intermediate stuff, Kelsey doing intermediate stuff, Xavier and
Speaker 1: Taekwon Thornton both being deep threats, and Patrick with protection
Speaker 1: dialed in, being able to hit any quadrant on the field. Again,
Speaker 1: the Pacheco's gotta be better and I wish they had
Speaker 1: just a common again.
Speaker 2: I think I think Pacheco is who scat Scataboo is
Speaker 2: who Pacheco thinks that he is. I think that when
Speaker 2: he runs and how he feels, he feels like Cam.
Speaker 1: Scataboo, by the way, and Pacheco's faster than Scatabo or
Speaker 1: he was and Pacheco was Pacheco was that and then
Speaker 1: he broke his leg. Yeah, and he just hasn't been
Speaker 1: the same, uh ever since then? Also not This isn't
Speaker 1: me being a pedant. And I don't want to be annoying,
Speaker 1: but I just I don't have it. You combined oddly,
Speaker 1: you combined the two bones in the leg into one.
Speaker 1: It's no, no fibula and tibia. I think it's tibia
Speaker 1: and fibula. And I think you did tibula, which is
Speaker 1: actually not terrible because I don't know which one he
Speaker 1: broke of the two, but they are two different bones,
Speaker 1: tibia and fib you I.
Speaker 2: Think it was I think it was I think it
Speaker 2: was fab but who knows.
Speaker 1: But regardless, the so no, the offenses going. They need
Speaker 1: a little bit more consistent pass rush, but they're just
Speaker 1: the best team and they now get the incredibly rare
Speaker 1: I think the I think the first time all not yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely the first time all year. The Chiefs play a
Speaker 1: non descript one PM Sunday game Week seven, and they
Speaker 1: still get Nanton Romo because they're the Chiefs, but they
Speaker 1: have gone from Friday Night Brazil, Sunday afternoon Super Bowl
Speaker 1: rematch with Tom Brady in Casey, Sunday Night UH Football
Speaker 1: against the Giants prior the four point thirty PM CBS
Speaker 1: game with Nanton Romo, Monday Night against the Jags, Sunday
Speaker 1: Night against the Lions. Now just a regular one PM game,
Speaker 1: but it's still Nanson Romo. And then it's back to
Speaker 1: normal for Kansas City when the next weekend they're on
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football against the Commanders and the next weekend
Speaker 1: they are on the Big four to twenty five CBS
Speaker 1: game with Nanton Romo uh, and feel sure feels like
Speaker 1: they're gonna be five and three going into that Bills game,
Speaker 1: and I feel really good about it, all right. Uh,
Speaker 1: Tailgater says that I need to stop bowling Brian branch.
Speaker 1: I I did feel a little badly about that.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, Like just now, like on the Blake
Speaker 2: what you say the pod.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was doing it, I was like, the
Speaker 1: guy really did seem sad.
Speaker 2: Even more like you're actually bullying him.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I am, But I don't know, maybe that
Speaker 1: was maybe that was mean, but I really didn't like
Speaker 1: him hitting Juju in the face. Yeah I was. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was like a real hit man. And what I
Speaker 1: really didn't like was Patrick seeing it and then running
Speaker 1: to the fight. And then there was a moment where
Speaker 1: like Patrick gets loose invisible some bodies. Yeah that was
Speaker 1: I I didn't love. I tell you, I didn't love that.
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Speaker 1: the Monday night football doubleheader.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So who would have saw Atlanta upsetting Buffalo.
Speaker 2: I guess you kind of did, and you were right, well.
Speaker 1: I mean not entirely. To be fair, you saw it
Speaker 1: about it, I would have. I didn't even include Atlanta
Speaker 1: plus the points is one of my picks, but I did.
Speaker 1: I did think they were live. And I also thought
Speaker 1: Atlanta was the hardest team in the league to kind
Speaker 1: of get a beat on because week one they play,
Speaker 1: you know, a tight game comes down to a field
Speaker 1: miss field goal against the Bucks. They there's they get
Speaker 1: annihilated by Carolina. But Carolina's oddly been a good team
Speaker 1: at home. They beat Washington, but Washington doesn't have Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 1: And then there's one other game they played. I forgot
Speaker 1: what it was, and then they had a buy and
Speaker 1: so I just thought Atlanta was a little bit of
Speaker 1: a I don't want to say unknown. Oh they beat
Speaker 1: the Vikings twenty two to six in a weird game
Speaker 1: when wins started like no, when JJ McCarthy was in
Speaker 1: and then J J. McCarthy's been hurt since then, but
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh yeah, so Beijeon and Drake london encounted for
Speaker 2: three weeks ninety six of four hundred and forty three
Speaker 2: yards at offense. Buffalo has dropped their second straight and
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's and VP odds are up to plus three hundred.
Speaker 2: He's number two by On Mahomes. Is it time for
Speaker 2: the Josh Allen as the best player in the NFL
Speaker 2: chance to come to a simmer? All right?
Speaker 1: So again, hold on, let me find the exact quote.
Speaker 3: Let me see you.
Speaker 1: I should have looked this up beforehand. Okay, so this
Speaker 1: is you guys know that I actually have been pretty
Speaker 1: pro Bills the last couple of years. Last year, I
Speaker 1: when everybody thought they might be in a rebuild, I
Speaker 1: thought they'd make the AFC Championship Game. I thought they'd
Speaker 1: be really good. They were this year. I once again
Speaker 1: picked them to go to the AFC Championship Game. And
Speaker 1: I've been pretty consistent that I think Josh is the
Speaker 1: second best quarterback in football. I with that said that
Speaker 1: Josh allen hyperbole on some of these things has always
Speaker 1: mystified me. And the example of it this year is
Speaker 1: three weeks ago after a Monday night football game against
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, when Josh was good. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: but it was against the Dolphins. In that game, if
Speaker 1: you remember, was really close late and it was coming
Speaker 1: on the heels of a Jets game where they annihilated
Speaker 1: the Jets. But it was a James Cook game. Josh
Speaker 1: had thrown for one hundred and forty yards and no touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Greeney on Get Up says, quote, I'm watching that game
Speaker 1: last night, and no one has ever played that position
Speaker 1: better than Josh Allen. Again, the quote is, no one
Speaker 1: has ever played that position better than Josh Allen. And
Speaker 1: it just seems like.
Speaker 4: We are so eager to anoint the next guy when
Speaker 4: we're in the midst of the guy that we sometimes
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Get a little ahead of ourselves. With that said, listen, Josh,
Speaker 1: he's had a rough couple weeks. I still think he's
Speaker 1: the second best quarterback in football. I also think that
Speaker 1: it was likely unsustainable the streak he was on on
Speaker 1: not turning the ball over, and now all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you've seen he's turned the ball over four times
Speaker 1: in the last three games. And the Bills, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: have real, real question marks. They have four wins. They
Speaker 1: beat Baltimore, which at the time we thought was an
Speaker 1: awesome win. The defense allowed forty and they needed that
Speaker 1: late comeback to beat the Baltimore has won one game
Speaker 1: since then. They beat the Jets in one of the
Speaker 1: weirdest games of the year because they outscored them thirty
Speaker 1: to ten, despite Josh not and they out gained them
Speaker 1: for it not weird, but they it was. They just
Speaker 1: ran all over them. They outgained them four hundred to
Speaker 1: one fifty four and the Jets had no shot. The Jets,
Speaker 1: by the way, have won zero games all year. They
Speaker 1: beat the Dolphins in a game Josh played great, but
Speaker 1: in a game that also was tied with They were
Speaker 1: tied with the Dolphins with seven and a half minutes left.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins have won one game all year. They beat
Speaker 1: the Saints in a game that the Saints thought they
Speaker 1: took the lead in the fourth quarter, only to have
Speaker 1: a touchdown overturned they had to settle for a field goal,
Speaker 1: and that game was a two point game in Buffalo
Speaker 1: with seven and a half minutes left. The Saints have
Speaker 1: put won one game all year. They then lost to
Speaker 1: the Patriots and got third handled last night by Atlanta
Speaker 1: and were, in my opinion, lucky to have a shot
Speaker 1: to steal that game because Atlanta, after doing anything it
Speaker 1: wanted for the first three quarter, first quarter and a half,
Speaker 1: the offense kind of went comatose on them. And the
Speaker 1: Bills are now in a spot where they have squandered
Speaker 1: already demanse what was supposed to be their biggest edge
Speaker 1: for this season, which is an incredibly soft schedule that
Speaker 1: would lead them to their first one seed since Jim
Speaker 1: Kelly was the quarterback. And now they wake up this
Speaker 1: morning and they're not even leading their division, and they
Speaker 1: still have games left against the Chiefs, against the Bucks,
Speaker 1: at the Patriots, against the Eagles, at the Steelers, at
Speaker 1: the Texans, and you just wonder, is this going to
Speaker 1: be be another year where Buffalo. I still think they're
Speaker 1: gonna win the division. By the way, Like I don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, I I wouldn't put.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't put a taste on New England winning the
Speaker 2: division at plus one eighty five.
Speaker 1: It's only plus one eighty five.
Speaker 3: Is that why Vegas thinks so too?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I mean no, that's I might put something on Buffalo
Speaker 1: at minus two thirty. I like, I know, I still
Speaker 1: think Buffalo. I would have thought Buffalo's minus three hundred
Speaker 1: to win the division.
Speaker 2: New England.
Speaker 1: No, but but no, I mean I think New England.
Speaker 1: I picked New England make the playoffs. I just think
Speaker 1: Buffalo is still gonna win eleven games at least. And
Speaker 1: I don't see New England, you know, and so but regardless,
Speaker 1: my point is this, it sure looks like it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a season like we've seen a lot with the
Speaker 1: Bills where they win the division but they don't get
Speaker 1: the bye. They beat the hell out of the team
Speaker 1: in the wild card round, and then they play someone
Speaker 1: in their weight class in the divisional round or the
Speaker 1: conference championship game and get beaten. And that was It's
Speaker 1: really crazy. How bad that defense has looked this year.
Speaker 1: The Again, the Panthers only scored I'm sorry, the Falcons
Speaker 1: only scored twenty four points. They move the ball.
Speaker 2: It will.
Speaker 1: Drake Mayett is coming out party against them. They they
Speaker 1: seem to even though I don't know that the stats
Speaker 1: back it up. They just seem to be a defense
Speaker 1: that can get got. And Josh is Josh is a great,
Speaker 1: great player. But the conservative, low risk style that he's
Speaker 1: been playing the last year and a half really doesn't
Speaker 1: fit if you don't have a defense that you can
Speaker 1: rely on to get stops. And I don't think they
Speaker 1: have that defense this year. And so I I right now,
Speaker 1: if I had to pick it, Demonse, I would still
Speaker 1: say Chiefs Bills AFC Championship game. But now we're staring
Speaker 1: at a very real possibility that game is going to
Speaker 1: be an arrowhead. When the chap the Bills were four
Speaker 1: and oh, with the Chiefs at one and two about
Speaker 1: to face the Ravens, life comes at you fast man.
Speaker 1: And the Bills also need a good win. They just
Speaker 1: need a good win. What are you laughing about?
Speaker 2: You gotta get on top of your division first. You
Speaker 2: gotta get the.
Speaker 1: Same with Buffalo Buffalo like, and I am, well, we'll
Speaker 1: get to the Chargers and the Broncos in a minute.
Speaker 1: Let's talk Falcons just for a second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's if it feels like Michael Pinks has
Speaker 2: kind of gotten lost in the shuffle as far as
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in his drive class, what do you what do
Speaker 2: you make of Michael Pinnicks as now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess he's gonna still be a
Speaker 1: little lost in the shuffle with me, because I like,
Speaker 1: there are certain things you really like. There's also like
Speaker 1: last night, when that game was wrapped, essentially all Atlanta
Speaker 1: need do was run the ball three times kick a
Speaker 1: field goal. With two minutes left, they called a pass
Speaker 1: play that Pinnix made a horrific decision and it was
Speaker 1: this close being a pick six tie game when the
Speaker 1: game was basically over. So some of that concerns me.
Speaker 1: But Drake London is really good and Bijon is just
Speaker 1: sensational and yeah, I mean, listen, I picked him to
Speaker 1: win Offensive Player of the Year as a rookie. Here's
Speaker 1: what Bijon's done since he came into the league. His
Speaker 1: rookie year, he had nine hundred and eighty rushing yards
Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty receiving yards. So he had fourteen
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty yards with eight touchdowns. Really good, not
Speaker 1: not super elite, but really good. Last year he had
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred and fifty rushing yards, another four hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty receiving yards and fifteen touchdowns. Elite. This year he
Speaker 1: has four hundred and eighty rushing yards and all ready
Speaker 1: three one hundred and thirty receiving yards, only three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: but is on pace to shatter I think the yards
Speaker 1: from scrimmage record for a season. He's got eight hundred
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage through five games. Like, where.
Speaker 2: My god that was?
Speaker 3: I had to score the most rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a bad beat. I mean it's not a
Speaker 1: bad beat, but it's so crazy. Get all the yards
Speaker 1: year right exactly? Yeah. So like just for context on
Speaker 1: what he's doing as a receiver, he has three hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty eight receiving yards. Again, they've already had their
Speaker 1: buy so he's played five games. Jamar Chase, who is
Speaker 1: fifth Chase and a Buka.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a Buka.
Speaker 1: Have four hundred and sixty eight and four hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty nine receiving yards in an that extra game. So
Speaker 1: he's averaging. I mean, that's crazy. He is on a
Speaker 1: yards per game basis right now? He is where is Oh?
Speaker 1: I can't sort by that, but I mean he's sixty
Speaker 1: eight receiving yards a game. He's top twenty in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He's so good. He's so good. By the way, the
Speaker 1: Falcons my NFC playoff picks demons going into the year,
Speaker 1: and not in order, but just the seven Eagles, Commanders, Lions, Packers,
Speaker 1: Bills aren't bills. Hold on, wait, I'm gonna have something wrong.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's right, you know what. I take it back.
Speaker 1: It was Eagles, Commanders, Lions, Bears, Packers, Bucks Rams. I
Speaker 1: had the Falcons in, and then the Pinnicks trade happened,
Speaker 1: and I took them out and put the Packers in.
Speaker 1: So that's what it was. The did I say the
Speaker 1: Pinnis trade the Parsons straight happened? Pardon me? The when
Speaker 1: the Parsons straight happened? I put the Packers in because
Speaker 1: I had them out. That's what it was. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: did I have eight playoff teams? But no, I think
Speaker 1: Atlanta's I think Atlanta's at least semi legit all right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the other Monday night game.
Speaker 2: So the Bears pulled out the upset in the in
Speaker 2: that inclement weather, a lot of turnovers to Washington, Washington.
Speaker 2: Some of it was the weather, some of them were
Speaker 2: just turnovers. So we now have two good games between
Speaker 2: these two teams. What did this game mean for either
Speaker 2: one of them? Did it mean anything for anybody?
Speaker 1: Well, listen, No, for the the Bears, I don't think
Speaker 1: played great, but they gotta win. And this is you know,
Speaker 1: last year the Bears deserved some wins they didn't get.
Speaker 1: They've now had back to back games where they got wins,
Speaker 1: by the way, in one of the most unlikely occurrences,
Speaker 1: totally meaningless, but one of the most unlikely occurrence is
Speaker 1: probably in NFL history, the Bears have won back to
Speaker 1: back games by the exact score of twenty five twenty
Speaker 1: four like that. You know that. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that was a score of gami, but that is that's
Speaker 1: not a score you see often, and they've now done
Speaker 1: it in back to back games. So the Bears, they
Speaker 1: lose a heartbreaker in Week one to the Vikings, they
Speaker 1: get annihilated by Detroit and then play great against Dallas,
Speaker 1: play poorly, but win against the Raiders, and play okay
Speaker 1: and win against the Commanders and had some tough calls
Speaker 1: go against them, you know, so maybe they felt like
Speaker 1: they deserved it, but it would have been demand's a
Speaker 1: a crushing loss. Yeah, you can't win the turnover battle
Speaker 1: three nothing, It would lose that game. You just can't.
Speaker 1: So the Bears, now they get the Saints at home,
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, what was supposed to to
Speaker 1: be a very tough stretch in the middle of their season.
Speaker 1: Look at their next four home for the Saints, then
Speaker 1: back to back road games, which going into the year
Speaker 1: you would have said, oh my god, that's just tough
Speaker 1: of a back to back road game as any team
Speaker 1: has all year. At the Ravens, at the Bengals, and
Speaker 1: then home for the Giants. Now the Ravens will.
Speaker 2: Have yeah, yeah, he will be back.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he will be back. But it'll also
Speaker 1: be Lamar's first If you're going to have to play Lamar,
Speaker 1: playing him in his first game back would be the
Speaker 1: time to play him. And the Bengals are just stone dust,
Speaker 1: like the Bengals are drawing to nothing. And then you
Speaker 1: get the giants like the Bears now have a chance.
Speaker 1: I thought the running game looked good coming out of
Speaker 1: the by. I thought the run defense looked good. They're,
Speaker 1: you know, lucky for them. McLaurin didn't play again. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to overhype the Bears, but they they have
Speaker 1: started zero two and now they're three and two out
Speaker 1: of the by feeling like, all right, we're playing for something.
Speaker 1: And Caleb is again up and down, but you're seeing
Speaker 1: some progression. Here's what I will say about Jaden. And
Speaker 1: I don't know how closely everyone watched that game last night.
Speaker 1: I know there were two games going on. Jaden. It
Speaker 1: takes some tough hits, man. And I know I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sound like a broken record on this, but he's coming.
Speaker 1: He's he's played two years or year.
Speaker 2: And a half.
Speaker 1: He has suffered an injury that made him misstime both years.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of time, but he's miss time both years.
Speaker 1: And yes, last night, he didn't seem to like be
Speaker 1: protecting himself. That worries me. I the the interception was
Speaker 1: a terrible throw. That's gonna happen. I'm not gonna kill
Speaker 1: the guy who's take. He's taking care of the ball
Speaker 1: throughout his career and the the fumble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: It's the rain. It's it's not good. I mean it
Speaker 1: cost him the game. You could argue, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to kill.
Speaker 3: It for that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: They would have cooked him, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Especially in that spot with the lead late in the game.
Speaker 1: And so, but here is what's crazy right now, demons
Speaker 1: about where the command the commanders are. There's obviously sixteen
Speaker 1: teams in each conference. The commanders are three and three.
Speaker 1: Where do you think don't look, where do you think
Speaker 1: they are right now? Standings wise one through sixteen in.
Speaker 3: The NF in their division.
Speaker 2: No, in the in the conference or in the conference.
Speaker 1: One through sixteen, call it.
Speaker 2: Eighth, ninth between that, I want to say eight and ten.
Speaker 2: I know that's three answers that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's fine. They're twelfth, three and three and
Speaker 1: twelfth in the conference.
Speaker 2: NFC's loaded.
Speaker 1: Well, here's what's true about the NFC versus the AFC.
Speaker 1: The NFC has one team with less than two wins,
Speaker 1: the Saints. And the Saints are oddly like frisky right
Speaker 1: the Saints. The Saints lost a close one of the
Speaker 1: Cardinals in Week one, lost a close one of the
Speaker 1: Niners in week two, got annihilated by Seattle. In week three,
Speaker 1: lost a close one of the Bills. In week four,
Speaker 1: beat the Giants, and lost a close one of the
Speaker 1: Patriots this week. They're obviously not good, but they're not horrific.
Speaker 1: But there's they're the only one win team in the NFC.
Speaker 1: The AFC demanse has five one or zero win teams. Now.
Speaker 1: One of them's Baltimore, who we think is not really
Speaker 1: a one win team because when Lamar gets back, but Miami, Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Tennessee and the Jets are horrible. There's then also a
Speaker 1: two win Bengals team which is a zero win team
Speaker 1: since Joe Burrow came back or since Joe Burrow got hurt,
Speaker 1: and a two win Raider team that, while I'm rooting
Speaker 1: for him, have not looked good. So it just feels
Speaker 1: like the AFC is shockingly just that all the bad
Speaker 1: teams are there. So the reason I'm mentioning that in
Speaker 1: this conversation is for Bears commanders. The other reason this
Speaker 1: matters is if I either of these teams gonna make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's probably gonna be through the wild card,
Speaker 1: and that head to head loss for the Commanders is
Speaker 1: a big one. And speaking of playoffs in the AFC,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this because the only team that
Speaker 1: is in the AFC that I don't know like, I'm
Speaker 1: very confident. And again the Raiders thing makes me sad
Speaker 1: because I put so much take equity in them. But
Speaker 1: all of the two or one or zero win teams
Speaker 1: in the AFC are just bad. That's Cinci, Raiders, Ravens
Speaker 1: with an asterisk, Miami, Cleveland, Tennessee, and the Jets. The
Speaker 1: only team that has two wins that I'm not including
Speaker 1: in there is Houston as a bit of an unknown.
Speaker 1: Let's call it Houston something of an unknown. And then
Speaker 1: the three or more win teams are Chiefs, Broncos, Jags, Bill's, Patriots, Chargers, Steelers, Colts.
Speaker 1: So here would be my question for you. I just
Speaker 1: listed eight teams. Let's assume so the playoff picture if
Speaker 1: we just instead of even including the Steelers, we say,
Speaker 1: if the Steelers fall out, it will be because Baltimore
Speaker 1: went like that division is gonna get one team, Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: or Baltimore the AFC North. That leaves for the other
Speaker 1: three divisions six playoff spots. Here are the seven teams
Speaker 1: vying for it Colts, Chargers, Pats, Bills, Jags, Broncos, Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Which of those seven is most likely to be odd
Speaker 1: man out?
Speaker 2: Do you think.
Speaker 1: You say the Broncos?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said Colts hit Denver.
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I thought you were maybe gonna
Speaker 1: say the Jags. I will also say the Broncos.
Speaker 2: I believe in that. I believe in the Jags and
Speaker 2: our defense. I mean, Trevor Lawrence is these little goofy,
Speaker 2: but I believe in that defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and with the Jags also have going for him
Speaker 1: is two games left against the Titans, a game left
Speaker 1: against the Jets, a game left against the Raiders, a
Speaker 1: game left.
Speaker 2: Against the weaker division right as well.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, But one of those teams is
Speaker 1: going to be out all right before we get to
Speaker 1: maybe not maybe, definitely, I think the best game of
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Speaker 1: I always wondered pre Achilles surgery. If this was something
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Speaker 1: no spotlight, and still carved out unforgettable careers. The first
Speaker 1: two were just stone locks, JJ Watt and Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: Today we add another guy that I think is a lock.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's a little recency bias, but Stetson Bennett
Speaker 1: is my third on walk on Mount Rushmore. Stetson Bennett
Speaker 1: was a walk on at Georgia and it didn't take
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Speaker 1: then goes back to Georgia and he sits behind Jake
Speaker 1: from He then takes over the team in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: and I had these numbers up before. The numbers are good,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I mean they're not unbelievable. He
Speaker 1: did lead the nation in passing yards though his senior
Speaker 1: year twenty nine touchdowns, seven picks his junior year, twenty
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, seven picks his senior year. But the reason
Speaker 1: he is on walk on Mount Rushmore is his junior
Speaker 1: and senior year. They won the NASH Championship. Those two years.
Speaker 1: As a starting quarterback, they lost one game. Both of
Speaker 1: those years, Stetson Bennett was the National Championship Game Offensive MVP.
Speaker 1: He goes to Georgia and despite being five to ten
Speaker 1: maybe is the signal caller for two of the greatest
Speaker 1: college football teams of this era, winning back to back
Speaker 1: national championships, winning back to back offensive MVPs in those
Speaker 1: national championship games. He is our third person on Walk
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Speaker 1: Let's get to Bucks Niners.
Speaker 2: All right, so the injuries keep piling up and sold
Speaker 2: to the ws man, Your guy Baker is defying logic
Speaker 2: out here here. How worried are you that they're peaking
Speaker 2: too early?
Speaker 1: I'm not worried at all because this was if you guys,
Speaker 1: remember in the preseason when I picked the Bucks to
Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl. The logic was, I think
Speaker 1: that they can be the one seed, and they are
Speaker 1: right now on hard Rock bet the favorites to be
Speaker 1: the one seed, and you're about to see why if
Speaker 1: we throw their schedule up and then we'll get to
Speaker 1: the actual game they have. The next six weeks are
Speaker 1: tough at Detroit, Detroit angry coming off a loss, is
Speaker 1: tough at New Orleans, hard place to play. Should win
Speaker 1: a bye week than home for New England at Buffalo
Speaker 1: at the Rams. But because they've already booked Demon's a
Speaker 1: five wins. Let's be pessimistic here about that middle stretch, okay,
Speaker 1: and say they go two and three beat New Orleans
Speaker 1: and then go one in three against Detroit, New England,
Speaker 1: Buffalo and the Rams. Right, that would put them at
Speaker 1: seven and four going into a final six games of
Speaker 1: home Arizona home, New Orleans, home, Atlanta at Carolina at
Speaker 1: Miami home Carolina. They they easily can get to thirteen
Speaker 1: wins this year, even if they struggle the next month.
Speaker 1: I think that they have a real shot at fourteen wins.
Speaker 1: And Baker every week, every week makes an MVP play
Speaker 1: third and fourteen. This past week in a one point
Speaker 1: game or whatever, I think it was a one point
Speaker 1: game when he did it him somehow escaping the rush
Speaker 1: and final scramble for fourteen yards and then hitting the
Speaker 1: little weak guy from body Tez what's his name, Tesz Johnson?
Speaker 1: Tess Johnson, who demands weighs one hundred and forty five
Speaker 1: pounds hits him for the touchdown, Like I mean he
Speaker 1: was the one sixty five yeah, oh yeah. Worthy's a
Speaker 1: lot taller than the Worthy is my height and is
Speaker 1: one sixty one sixty five tes is a legit one
Speaker 1: forty five. I don't care what he's listed at. And
Speaker 1: I mean, so no Mike Evans, no, Godwin Abuka goes
Speaker 1: out is injuries on the offensive line, and I understand
Speaker 1: you're playing the Niners, and they're like, we don't want
Speaker 1: to hear about injuries and poor Fred Warner and that
Speaker 1: and the the Niners, by the way, are now done.
Speaker 1: That's not recoverable. Uh. It was unbelievable what they've been
Speaker 1: able to to overcome so far. But you the defense
Speaker 1: is now going to be terrible every week and Brock
Speaker 1: Perdy or mac Jones aren't gonna save you. So the
Speaker 1: Niners are to me because of the injuries across off.
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about Baker and MVP because
Speaker 1: this was a great You should go to my Twitter
Speaker 1: and check the replies to I sent out last night
Speaker 1: the moment the Bills game ended, I sent out, Uh,
Speaker 1: and just like that, your Vegas favorite for NFL MVP
Speaker 1: is dot dot dot Patrick Mahomes And the responses to
Speaker 1: that are just folks that literally can't read or idiots.
Speaker 1: I don't know, not every lot of them, because that
Speaker 1: was not an opinion that was a statement of fact. Now,
Speaker 1: to be fair, the odds hadn't posted yet. I just
Speaker 1: know how gambling works. And with Josh Allen being the
Speaker 1: favorite and Patrick already being ahead, like going into last night,
Speaker 1: it was Josh Allen one, Patrick two, Baker three, and
Speaker 1: so Josh having that type of game was gonna knock
Speaker 1: him down. Baker wasn't gonna leap Patrick when not, you know,
Speaker 1: Week six for them was already baked in. To be clear,
Speaker 1: right now, the MVP is Baker Mayfield. But that's different
Speaker 1: than they don't vote right now, but right now, if
Speaker 1: they did vote Demons day, I don't think it's debatable.
Speaker 1: If they voted right now, Baker should get every vote.
Speaker 1: His team's been awesome. They've dealt with a ton of injuries.
Speaker 1: He's been sensational, he's been clutch. He is right now
Speaker 1: the MVP. The odds are saying they think Baker's is
Speaker 1: gonna come down to earth a bit and Mahomes is
Speaker 1: only going to get better. And the other thing the
Speaker 1: odds are incorporating now is could the Chiefs end up
Speaker 1: with a really good seed, which is really helpful with MVP,
Speaker 1: And so that's where you know, but right now Baker's
Speaker 1: the MVP of the league. What a story, man, what
Speaker 1: a story. I'm so happy for him. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: for Baker. All right, I want to get to the
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Speaker 1: games from the weekend.
Speaker 2: Giants defeating the Eagles thirty four to seventeen. Last week,
Speaker 2: you said if Saquon doesn't is quiet on Thursday night
Speaker 2: football football, It's fair to say that it'll be quiet
Speaker 2: all year.
Speaker 3: He didn't break sixty yards, so we're.
Speaker 1: Here and he had thirty on the first two plays.
Speaker 2: Weird.
Speaker 1: The Eagles are teetering. They're teetering. Now, what does teetering
Speaker 1: for the Eagles mean they'll miss the playoffs?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: But could they be staring out a year similar to
Speaker 1: the one the last time they made the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Where they make the playoffs and then get beat up
Speaker 1: in the first round of the playoffs because they're a
Speaker 1: team that really was never together all year. Possibly, and
Speaker 1: the Giants just flat thoroughly outplayed them. And one of
Speaker 1: the concerns for Philly all year was this really tough schedule.
Speaker 1: We gave them a ton of credit because despite the
Speaker 1: tough schedule, they found a way to start four and
Speaker 1: Oh but then in what was supposed to be a
Speaker 1: bit of a softer portion of the schedule home for
Speaker 1: the Broncos and then one of your Giants games. You
Speaker 1: give those wins back, and you still have on the
Speaker 1: schedule at Green Bay home for the Lions, at the Chargers,
Speaker 1: at the Commander at the Bills, another Commander's game, a
Speaker 1: Bears game at the Cowboys. Like not a lot of
Speaker 1: soft spots for a team that right now can't throw
Speaker 1: the ball and right now doesn't have an offensive identity.
Speaker 1: So I think that that and they don't have Saguanda
Speaker 1: leen On, So yeah, I think it's and for the Giants, listen, Jackson,
Speaker 1: Dart's gonna get himself killed. It's fun, it's exciting. He's
Speaker 1: gonna get himself killed.
Speaker 2: And I really did not like how Dable did in
Speaker 2: that game. I've never been like a huge I felt
Speaker 2: really bad for Russell Wilson. And also, on top of it,
Speaker 2: you yelling at the guy whose job it is to
Speaker 2: look out for the player's safety. What if the guy's
Speaker 2: actually still like messed up. You're just trying to throw
Speaker 2: him back in the game. Oh, Jamis Winston in the
Speaker 2: game or something if you don't want to see Russell
Speaker 2: out there. I thought that was really I didn't like
Speaker 2: how they did Russell Wilson that night. I thought that
Speaker 2: was crazy.
Speaker 1: That is perfect. Take everything you said there is one
Speaker 1: hundred percent correct, every piece of it. For I think
Speaker 1: Dabele should be fined a lot of money for that.
Speaker 1: I think screaming at the doctor when you're checking a
Speaker 1: guy for a concussion is crazy. And also listen, Dable, Dable,
Speaker 1: None of it made sense. First of all, to your point,
Speaker 1: if you are that horrified at the prospect of Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson coming into the game, Jameis Winston's on your roster. Now,
Speaker 1: they couldn't put Jamis in because he's the emergency third quarterback.
Speaker 1: So if you put him in, you can only use
Speaker 1: your emergency third quarterback. If you if you use your
Speaker 1: emergency third quarterback, your previous two quarterbacks cannot go back
Speaker 1: in the game. They're done. It's like a baseball player
Speaker 1: gets taken out. But you could have just made Jamis
Speaker 1: the backup and third quarterback. That's first of all. Second
Speaker 1: of all, if you if you don't trust Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: that much, then don't on the second play that he's
Speaker 1: in there call a pass play. And this was the
Speaker 1: most damning you saw. Once Dart and then I'll get
Speaker 1: to the doctor part. Once Dart went out of the game,
Speaker 1: you got a real test of how terrified you were
Speaker 1: without him. Yeah, on the next drive he was back in,
Speaker 1: he called quarterback runs, like what are you doing? So
Speaker 1: there that's the football piece of it, The ethics piece
Speaker 1: of it is the head coach screaming at the team
Speaker 1: doctor can simply never happen, especially when they're checking the
Speaker 1: guy for a concussion like that just can't happen.
Speaker 2: And I thought that was.
Speaker 1: A terrible look. Correct, I I agree with every single
Speaker 1: thing you said. All right, let's quickly go through the
Speaker 1: other games.
Speaker 2: The London we got the Broncos defeat the Jets team
Speaker 2: to eleven. One of the worst football games in recent memory.
Speaker 2: I guess that was pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Truly one of the worst football games. Play and listen,
Speaker 1: the Bronco Nick Benito is one of the best players
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL. That Broncos defense is awesome. Every
Speaker 1: single thing I've said about bo Nicks not only as correct,
Speaker 1: it might have been too nice. And the Jets game
Speaker 1: management is just Aaron Glenn is not covering himself in
Speaker 1: glory on this and but in his defense, Justin Fields
Speaker 1: was unplayably bad in that game. That's one of the
Speaker 1: worst games I've ever seen. And there is no one
Speaker 1: in the world that with a straight face can say
Speaker 1: they feel better about the Broncos forgetting that win. That
Speaker 1: team's offense is really a problem for one of the
Speaker 1: seven teams. Sean Payton's ever coach that he thought could
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Next, Oh, we got Panthers defeated the Cowboys thirty to
Speaker 2: twenty seven.
Speaker 1: All right, we just have to accep this weird fact
Speaker 1: for the moment. The Panthers at home are a decent team.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to I don't know why, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what the explains the discrepancy. But on
Speaker 1: the road they got annihilated by the Jaguars. They lost
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals, they got annihilated by the Patriots. At home,
Speaker 1: they beat the Falcons thirty and nothing, beat the Dolphins
Speaker 1: and beat Dallas and Rico dudele all of a sudden
Speaker 1: is unstoppable. So and the Cowboys, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: they have the worst defense in the league. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: every day you see more example of how much Micah
Speaker 1: Parsons was holding together by himself.
Speaker 2: Next, speaking of that Charger, No, No, we got Seahawks defeating
Speaker 2: the Jaguars twenty to twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Seahawks are probably the best team that I
Speaker 1: haven't really talked much about. They're just a good team.
Speaker 1: And this was a weird game. The Jags games have
Speaker 1: been so weird because they only scored twelve points and
Speaker 1: they lost, and it was I think one of Trevor's
Speaker 1: better games. Like they've scored more points than one, and
Speaker 1: he hasn't played well. But Seattle's just good. Now, Seattle's
Speaker 1: wins before the Jags game. No, that's not true. They
Speaker 1: beat the Steelers, they've beaten the Jags. They beat the
Speaker 1: Saints and the Cardinals. They lost a game to the
Speaker 1: Niners that they had a chance to steal late, and
Speaker 1: they lost to Baker in one of Baker's crazy late
Speaker 1: game heroics. Like the Seahawks are just a good team,
Speaker 1: and Donald's playing awesome. Credit to him, Like, Donald's playing
Speaker 1: really good, and the Jags, Brian Thomas just hasn't been right.
Speaker 1: Trevor hasn't been right. The defense is really good, and
Speaker 1: they're not getting enough out of Travis. They haven't figured
Speaker 1: out how to use Travis Hunter yet.
Speaker 2: Next we got the Chargers. If he the Dolphin twenty seven,
Speaker 2: that would.
Speaker 1: Have been a horrifying loss for the Chargers. Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: made an unbelievable play late in that game to shake
Speaker 1: off the rush and find McConkey, And that's a great
Speaker 1: win for the Chargers. You know, I I do think
Speaker 1: that last AFC playoff spot Chargers Broncos, Jags, two will
Speaker 1: be in, one will be out. So all of these
Speaker 1: games matter. And then after the game too. We talked
Speaker 1: at the top of the show, but to his press
Speaker 1: conference where he's like, who's responsible for team leadership?
Speaker 2: Is he like the reason?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the me. That's exactly right.
Speaker 2: Is he the reason mcdale's not getting fired right now?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, if the quarterbacks, how can we really
Speaker 3: blame the coach?
Speaker 1: But I don't know. But Tua's lack of accountability is
Speaker 1: jarring and I.
Speaker 2: Every time he gets up there, it's a deflection, like
Speaker 2: every single day, it's deflecting towards the fans.
Speaker 1: Is this an unfair take? The media gives to a
Speaker 1: something of a pass for these postgame and pregame comments
Speaker 1: that we wouldn't give other quarterbacks because we all kind
Speaker 1: of feel badly about his concussion history. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you're shaking your head. You're shaking your head, So maybe
Speaker 1: that means you don't think that's a fair take.
Speaker 2: I mean I think, yeah, I just feel.
Speaker 1: Like criticism of Tua it almost falls to me in
Speaker 1: my brain, like if there's a weird almost like Damar
Speaker 1: Hamlin feeling to it, which is like, man, this guy
Speaker 1: is we have seen this guy go through so much
Speaker 1: and the so it like criticism is unfair. Like can
Speaker 1: you imagine if someone like again he's not a quarterback,
Speaker 1: but like nobody would go on TV and be like,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the problem with the Bills, that's safety,
Speaker 1: Like nobody's gonna come after Jamorrow hanmis guy like we
Speaker 1: saw him. And I feel like there's an element of
Speaker 1: that with Tua.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, it can't be I mean I don't
Speaker 2: want to say it can't be like that, but at
Speaker 2: the same time, like there has to be some type
Speaker 2: of accountability and if you can't grade them on the
Speaker 2: same scale.
Speaker 1: Constantly throwing his teammates under the bus constantly in games
Speaker 1: where he plays terribly, he threw three picks all right.
Speaker 2: Next game, Uh, we got Rams defeating the Ravens seventeen
Speaker 2: to three. Oh my god, Lamar Jackson means a lot
Speaker 2: to this organization.
Speaker 1: You think, Yeah, now, I mean glass quarterfall, the defense
Speaker 1: finally had of balls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I definitely thought the Rams were going
Speaker 2: to carve them up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Last three quarters empty one in five might be.
Speaker 2: Unrecoverable, and kept saying like our path is to win
Speaker 2: the division. Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: It weird, It's no they need My point is they
Speaker 1: need Pittsburgh to fall apart. Yeah, you need Pittsburgh fall apart.
Speaker 2: Now. Colts defeat Cardinals thirty one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I guess the culture the other good team
Speaker 1: that I don't talk a lot about with the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Colts have just been really good. And
Speaker 1: by the way, I now have a new kind of ideal.
Speaker 1: If the Chiefs can't get the one seed, which they
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. I hope the Colts do. The
Speaker 1: Colts getting the one seed means Arrowhead Invitational is back
Speaker 1: on the table. I think I'm serious. Colts get the
Speaker 1: one seed loser first playoff game, Arrow and Invitational back
Speaker 1: like that that exists. But the Colts up to this
Speaker 1: point look really good. Now, flip side to the flip side.
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett scored twenty seven on him, so that's not ideal.
Speaker 1: But the offense in Daniel Jones look good. Next.
Speaker 3: Patriots defeat the Saints twenty five nineteen.
Speaker 1: The story of the Patriots right now is mac Jones
Speaker 1: deserves real like bottom of the ballot MVP consideration, like
Speaker 1: fifth place right now. He's been awesome and he's a
Speaker 1: dude man, and so I don't think they have a
Speaker 1: ton of great weapons. And he is chucking that sucker
Speaker 1: downfield and carving up defenses. The Patriots got a horrific
Speaker 1: whistle in that game, had some phantom calls take away
Speaker 1: huge plays. They overcame it.
Speaker 2: Next, Steelers defeat the Browns twenty three to nine.
Speaker 1: Credit the Steelers man off of by continuing to win.
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel looked terrible, like really bad.
Speaker 2: And do you see the thing that he did when
Speaker 2: like I hit him, He like like they got the
Speaker 2: guy hit him. It wasn't really elated. He threw it
Speaker 2: and then he hits Gabriel and then Gabriel grabs him
Speaker 2: by his shoulder pads and like MUSHes him into the ground.
Speaker 2: He got like a little angry.
Speaker 1: At Dylan Gabriel. Size. Yeah, I didn't see that. The
Speaker 1: Browns are terrible Steelers. I need to pay more attention
Speaker 1: to the Steelers. I have thought it's kind of smoking mirrors,
Speaker 1: but they're now four and one. They have the second
Speaker 1: best record in the AFC. I got even credit.
Speaker 2: Next, a Raiders defeat the Titans twenty to ten.
Speaker 1: That's just a horrible game. I mean, good for the
Speaker 1: Raiders for winning it, but the Titans are just like
Speaker 1: we'll see what the Titans look like now that Brian
Speaker 1: Callahan's been fired.
Speaker 2: Next, Packers defeat the Bengals twenty seven to eighteen.
Speaker 1: Not a great win by the Packers. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: a win's a win, but coming they haven't bought great
Speaker 1: off of Bye. They haven't won a game. They hadn't
Speaker 1: won a game since September twelfth or something. And I
Speaker 1: mean they controlled that entire game, but not great. And
Speaker 1: now this from Lebotard show these sons of bitches go ahead?
Speaker 2: Oh wait, is this a vampire or a werewolf?
Speaker 1: How dare Dan LeBatard send this tweet?
Speaker 3: You kind of do like Hotel Transylvania a little bit?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: I sent Lebotard's crew a video recapping my long story.
Speaker 1: Short is this Dan and I bet five grand on
Speaker 1: Chiefs Lions. He then, for some reason, thought we were
Speaker 1: betting a white Corvette because the guy does I don't
Speaker 1: get it. I then wanted my money that I then
Speaker 1: felt bad because it seems like he thought it was
Speaker 1: a gag. But I made the point of if I
Speaker 1: wasn't betting with him, I would have bet that elsewhere.
Speaker 1: So like now all of a sudden, am I gonna
Speaker 1: lose money? But I had told Dan I was playing
Speaker 1: in a huge poker game last night, and so I
Speaker 1: said if I won in the poker game, he could
Speaker 1: distribute my winnings from him to the rest of his staff.
Speaker 1: And I sent him a video saying sadly I lost
Speaker 1: in the book. Need that money. I'm gonna need that. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need that money. Uh. So that's the that's
Speaker 1: the long story short of that. If you haven't been
Speaker 1: listening to my you know, okay, I don't even occasional
Speaker 1: appearances with the Levatard crew. All right, let's quickly do
Speaker 1: some listener questions before I go.
Speaker 2: Uh Korn says, if Chiefs ended only getting if Chiefs
Speaker 2: ended only getting a wild card and went all the
Speaker 2: way and won the Super Bowl, what would the media's
Speaker 2: take on it be?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, in the mean, in the very short term,
Speaker 1: it would once again be you can never doubt the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. And then come about mid September. Next
Speaker 1: year we'd get new round of is the dynasty now over?
Speaker 1: Like they're just gonna step on that break every year.
Speaker 2: Next, Christopher says, no talk of Seahawks in the discussion
Speaker 2: for top teams despite number two quarterback this season, number
Speaker 2: one wide receiver, and number one defensive line.
Speaker 1: Listen that Chris, that might I don't think I would
Speaker 1: quite have Darnold's the number two quarterback. But he's been
Speaker 1: excellent and that's an obviously, Jackson Smith and Jig has
Speaker 1: been unbelievable. The d line under Mike McDonald's been really good.
Speaker 1: The Ravens Stephen Teden in the same since he left.
Speaker 1: That's a fair critique, man, it's a fair critique that
Speaker 1: we've been under discussing the Seattle that's fair.
Speaker 2: Next, uh Norf asked, do you still have the Ravens
Speaker 2: winning the division?
Speaker 1: No, I mean the Demond it's not. The Ravens have
Speaker 1: better odds right now to win the division than the Patriots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's crazy.
Speaker 3: He's come back and scorch it, but.
Speaker 1: Come back and just got to get in on like
Speaker 1: an instant five game winning streak.
Speaker 2: Next, Yeah, uh Naki says hi Nick follow you from Spain.
Speaker 2: I have a question, what's more looking for you watching
Speaker 2: the sports? Compared to two thousand athleticism of almost any
Speaker 2: quarterback or automatic fifty R field goals.
Speaker 1: No, the quarterback stuff, I think I would have thought that.
Speaker 1: You know, field goal kicking is going to continue to progress.
Speaker 1: But these, I mean, these superhero quarterbacks are unlike really
Speaker 1: anything we had in the past. All right, last one?
Speaker 2: Uh Kafrika ass Should the Bengals have traded for Jamis
Speaker 2: Winston instead of Flacco?
Speaker 1: That's what I would have done.
Speaker 2: It's more fun I.
Speaker 1: Think it would have made more sense. I think Jamar
Speaker 1: and T would have liked it. That's what I would
Speaker 1: have done. But that's not what they did. And Mike
Speaker 1: Tomlin didn't like that the Browns traded FLACCOH that was funny.
Speaker 2: That was funny.
Speaker 1: I was he's like Mike like. Evidently Andrew Barry knows
Speaker 1: more than me. I wouldn't have done that. All right.
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