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Last 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: time we recorded, I believe it's during the pandemic, we 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: were doing virtual interviews. I'm so glad we're not doing 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: those anymore. I'm talking about my dear friend, Jamie can Lima, 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: a New York Times best selling author, founder of IT Cosmetics, 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: a company she started in her living room and sold 29 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: to Lareal in a billion dollar deal, becoming the first 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: female CEO of a brand in its one hundred year history. 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: Jamie is also an active philanthropist who has funded leadership 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: training in more than one hundred prisons and shelters across 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: the United States, and has donated over fourteen million dollars 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: in product and funds to help women face the effects 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: of cancer with confidence. Jamie is donating one hundred percent 36 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: of her author proceeds of her new book Worthy to 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: charity as well. 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 3: How to Believe you. 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: Are Enough and transform your life Simple steps, life changing results. 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: This is the book that I want you to go 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: and grab order it right now. The book is available 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: as we speak. Please welcome to the show the author 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: of Worthy, Jamie Canlee, Ma, Jamie, thank you for being here. 44 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: Yay thank you so much for having me. I am excited. 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: This is going to be an amazing episode. 46 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: No, I just want to tell people just so you know. 47 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: Jamie arrived an hour ago and we've spent an hour 48 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: just chatting. 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: And hanging out. 50 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 2: And I love it because I always love spending time 51 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: with you. We became friends through a mutual friend, Brendan Bouchard, 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: a few years ago, and I've always loved connecting with you, 53 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: learning from you, hearing about how you have these divine 54 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: downloads as you call them, and how you channel in 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: your work. Yeah, and I remember when you actually told 56 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: me when you were divinely downloading this book. Yes, and 57 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: I wanted to start off by There's so many things 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: I want to talk about in the book, but the 59 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: thing that's calling me to start with is. 60 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: Do you feel worthy today? 61 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: Our self worth is our stealing in every area of life. 62 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: And Jay, I have to tell you, for the longest 63 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: time of my life, like I believe this lie that 64 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: if I achieve enough, I will finally feel enough. And 65 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: right now I can tell you I feel more worthy 66 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: than I ever have. But it is a daily it 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: is a daily practice, it's a daily intention and for 68 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: anyone who is with us right now listening watching, who's 69 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: ever had a goal, like a big goal or a 70 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: dream and they thought, you know, once I finally get 71 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: that thing, then I'm going to feel enough and happy 72 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: and fulfilled. And then you get that thing, and maybe 73 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: you worked for like a week or a month or 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: several years, and then you get it and you're like 75 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: happy for a while, but you're like, why do I 76 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: still feel like something's missing or like I'm not enough? 77 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: And that was me most of my entire life. And 78 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: usually when that happens, we think, oh, I've just got 79 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: to work harder. I've just got to level up and 80 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: hustle more and get the next thing and the next thing. 81 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: And so I spent oh my gosh, decades of my 82 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: life kind of as an achiever, but deep down inside 83 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: not feeling like I was enough. Yet I thought I 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: would solve that by doing all these things on the 85 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: outside that the world told me makes you enough. And 86 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: what's wild is even after not to like jump way ahead, 87 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: but even after achieving some of these things that the 88 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: days I was a Denny's waitress, I could not have 89 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 1: imagined selling my company for a one point two billion 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: dollars cash right, or becoming the first CEO, oh of 91 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: you know, a brand in Loreal's history, any of those things. 92 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't have imagined those happening. And yet I found 93 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: myself in a moment in my life where I was 94 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: achieving all of these things and still feeling like I 95 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: wasn't enough. And here's the thing, what I learned the 96 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: hard way is when we achieve all these things, we 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: build a lot of self confidence, which is really important, 98 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: but none of them build self worth, which is different. 99 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: And when we have a lot of confidence, when we're 100 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: crushing it on the outside, but deep down inside we 101 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: don't feel like we're enough, it will show up in 102 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: our lives and we may not show up in our career, 103 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: It might show up in our relationships, it might not 104 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: show up in you know, different areas. And I found 105 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: myself at this in this moment in time where I 106 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: was so confident and all these things were going right, 107 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: and I'd put decades of hard work, and I still 108 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: didn't feel like I was enough, and I was still 109 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: sabotaging things in my life. And it was really only 110 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: three years ago where there was a big moment that 111 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: happened in my life with Oprah actually where I realized, 112 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I am so confident, but I actually 113 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: have a lot of self confidence, but I actually don't 114 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: have a lot of self worth. And they're very different. 115 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: And you know, our self worth is our ceiling, and 116 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: it's why, you know, even if we arrive at that goal, 117 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: whether it's like a career thing or getting married and 118 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: having kids, or finally getting a six pack abs or 119 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: you know whatever, the things you still take you with you, 120 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: which is why you still arrive there. And you're like, 121 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: why do I still feel like I'm not enough? And 122 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 1: as you and I are talking, eighty percent of women 123 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: don't believe they are enough. Seventy three percent of men 124 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: feel inadequate and not enough. Right, and then you look 125 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: at other areas of life. Seventy five percent of women 126 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: deal with imposter syndrome, more than fifty percent of men 127 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: deal with it. When we believe we are not enough 128 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: as we are a it is a lie. It is 129 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: a lie, but packs almost every area of our life. 130 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,559 Speaker 1: So a big reason why I wrote worthy is because 131 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: I realized, oh my goodness, like in life, we don't 132 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: become what we want. We become what we believe we're 133 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: worthy of and that is the thing. Our self worth 134 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: is our ceiling. And so it's really a book about, 135 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, believe that. My first book was my story 136 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: of learning to believe in myself. And Worthy is really 137 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: like a playbook, like how do you believe in you? 138 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: It's packed with over twenty tools on it on building 139 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: self worth, and it's just the one thing because it's 140 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: the identity level, Like our self confidence is really important, 141 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: but it's it's an internal trait, but it's based so 142 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: much on the external, on like our willingness to try 143 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: and go for it. You know, how we feel we 144 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: stack up and compare to others, and how much of 145 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: the world's definition of success we have if we're winning 146 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: or losing, and they show, you know, studies show the 147 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: boxer who wins the fight is automatically thirty percent more confident. 148 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: Our confidence is really important. It's an important part of 149 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: our life, but it's fragile, it fluctuates. You know, our 150 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: self worth is different. It's that deep internal knowing and 151 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: belief that we are worthy of love and belonging exactly 152 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: as we are, not as our past mistakes or failures 153 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: or regrets, not as our future successes, but like innately 154 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: and exactly as we are, And a lot of people worry, well, 155 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: if I believe that was enough as I am, will 156 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: I lose my ambition while I lose my edge. It's like, 157 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: oh no, you don't. You actually become more ambitious because 158 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: when you learn to believe you are enough exactly as 159 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: you are, you become fearless about going for things because 160 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, even if you fail or fall flat on 161 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: your face or your embarrassed or it doesn't go well, 162 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: like that might shake your confidence, but it cannot touch 163 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: your self worth because your self worth is your identity, 164 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: your foundation. It's almost like our self confidence is the 165 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: house with all the rooms and the art and that 166 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: we're building in our life, which is so important, but 167 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: our self worth is the foundation under it, and our 168 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: house is only ever as stable and secure as that foundation. 169 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I have been obsessed with self worth, with 170 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: building it. It is just the one thing that changes 171 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: everything and for most of us, like we can go 172 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: into this if you want, but there's like three main 173 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: areas that shows up in our life when we're struggling 174 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: with it. So but I'm really passionate about it. 175 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. 176 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: I love the distinction you just made between confidence and 177 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: self worth. Yeah, because I think we often get those 178 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: two confused so often, and we feel if I'm confident, 179 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: then nothing else matters, and we're chasing confidence. And you 180 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: shared some of these just now, But when I've read this, 181 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: it really hit me. And it's on the first page 182 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: of the book, so you can't miss it. But I'm 183 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: just going to share this if you don't mind, because 184 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: I looked at these stats and it just was like 185 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: a punch in the gut when I read it, because 186 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: I was like, this really hit me. So listen to this. 187 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: This is reading from Worthy by Jamie Kenlema, page one. 188 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: It says, for the eighty percent of women who don't 189 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 2: believe they're enough, the seventy five percent of female executives 190 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: who deal with imposter syndrome, and the ninety one percent 191 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: of girls and women who don't love their bodies. For 192 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: the seventy three percent of men who feel inadequate, and 193 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: the one hundred percent of men who come from a 194 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: woman and likely have at least one girl or woman 195 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: in their lives whom they care about. When you believe 196 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: you're fundamentally not enough, and unworthy as a person. It's 197 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: a lie. The time to unlearn that lie has come together. 198 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: Let's leave no girl, no woman, no person left behind 199 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: in knowing. 200 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: They are worthy. 201 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Like when I read that, I was like, 202 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: those stats just put into perspective, because I think we 203 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: often think of feeling worthy or self worth as kind 204 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: of like this soft thing, right, and all of a sudden, 205 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 2: you read the statistics on it, and you think, but 206 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: wait a minute, we're all dealing with this like in 207 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: some way, in some area of our life. 208 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: And exactly what you said, we and me most I 209 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: thought self confidence and self worth were the same thing. 210 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: So when we're struggling with not feeling enough, and maybe 211 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: so many people listening to us right now, have you 212 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: know all of this stuff on the outside that everyone 213 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: tells you should make you feel enough, And it's because 214 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,359 Speaker 1: we're all confusing. We think we just need more self confidence, 215 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: but what we really need is more self worth. And 216 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: they're so different. But we try to solve our feelings 217 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: of not enoughness with things that just build self confidence, 218 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: but none of them build self worth, and they're so different. Like, 219 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: so many people think they need more self confidence, which 220 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: is important, but it's so so, so different and for 221 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: self worth. If someone's listening to us right now, they're like, oh, 222 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: wait a minute, is this why I don't feel fulfilled? 223 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: Or is this way I feel like it's never I'm 224 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: never enough for self worth. I'm just getting so fired 225 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: up on it. But it shows up for so many 226 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: of us. Like you look at those numbers, it's like, 227 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, three ways it shows up. So if 228 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: we have low self worth right and again, you can 229 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: be crushing it on the outside and you can be 230 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: hiding this really well. But if you have low self worth, 231 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: for a lot of us, it looks like we're stuck 232 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: and we don't know why we're stuck, and we don't 233 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: know why, and we tell ourselves like, for example, maybe 234 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: we know we want to write a book, or we 235 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: want to share our ideas at work, or we want 236 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: to put our art out into the world, or we 237 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: want to find a life partner, and but we're not 238 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: putting ourselves on the dating app or we're not like 239 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: going out and socializing, or we're not raising our hand 240 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: and sharing our idea on the zoom caller. We haven't 241 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: written the first word of our book, and we tell 242 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: ourselves stories like oh, I just need more experience, or 243 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: I need to get more skill sets, or all these 244 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: reasons why we're stuck, and they may be true, But 245 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: what a lot of us don't realize is the reason 246 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: we're is because deep down inside, we actually don't believe 247 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: we're worthy of the thing. And that will keep you 248 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: stuck all day long and not knowing why, because again, 249 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: your self worth is your ceiling right, and we don't 250 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: soar to the level of our goals and dreams. We 251 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: stay stuck at the level of our self worth every time, 252 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: and that's really how low self worth often shows up. 253 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: And then when you have a load to medium self worth, 254 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: what that looks like maybe a lot of people listening 255 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: can identify with this. It looks like you'll go for 256 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: the thing, like you'll put yourself out there, but then 257 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: you'll either hit a ceiling a plateau, and you're trying 258 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: for a breakthrough and you don't know why, Like maybe 259 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: you want to grow your follower account, you want to 260 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: grow your business to six figures, but you're hitting a 261 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: ceiling at five figures and you don't know why you 262 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: can't break past it, or or you'll go for it 263 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: but you'll sabotage it. Right, you'll go for it and 264 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: you'll sabotage it along the way. You'll meet a potential 265 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: partner and you'll be like, they're amazing, and then you 266 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: somehow are attracted to them and you put them in 267 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: the friend zone. Or you'll write the book and then 268 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: you won't send it out, like you'll go for the thing, 269 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: but you'll stabbed it because deep down inside you don't 270 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: believe you're worthy of it. And the third most common way, 271 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,119 Speaker 1: and this is for people who are ambitious or achievers. 272 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: This is very, very common. This is me a lot 273 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: in my life. You'll go for the thing and you'll 274 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: actually make it happen, you'll actually achieve it, you'll actually 275 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: but you arrive at it still feeling like something's missing, 276 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: still feeling like it's not enough, still feeling like you're 277 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: not enough, and so you feel unfulfilled. And then you think, 278 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: I've just got to achieve more and more and more 279 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: and more and more. And the most beautiful part about 280 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: building self worth is that you realize, okay, I am 281 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: which this is the truth, Jay, every single person listening 282 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: to us right now, this is the most beautiful part 283 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: every one of us. I do not care mistakes. Your 284 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: past failure is what you think you got wrong, who 285 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: you think you hurt, that you wish you didn't any 286 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: of that. I don't, and I don't care how much 287 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: success you have. None of that matters. Every person right 288 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: now is fully, fully worthy, exactly as you are. And 289 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: this journey isn't about learning some stuff you gotta do 290 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: to be worried. This is about unlearning the lies that 291 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: lead to self doubt and then igniting those truths that 292 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: wake up worthiness in us. And that is the part 293 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm most excited about when I'm jumping out of my 294 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: chair because when I think about everybody listening, when I 295 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: think about everyone listening and watching you and I right now, 296 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: the moment you learn to believe you are worthy, oh 297 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: my gosh, like that is the moment where it feels 298 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: like breakthrough, it feels like joy, it tastes like freedom. 299 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: It's the moment when and healthy relationships end. It's the 300 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: moment when you put your dreams and ideas out there, 301 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: no matter how they are received. It's the moment you 302 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: share your idea is It's the moment businesses are launched, 303 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: and I just yeah, I'm so passionate about this because 304 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: and I talk about this and worthy a lot that like, 305 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, we don't in life, in life, in our relationships, 306 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: in in in our friendships and our hopes and dreams, 307 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: that that we don't rise to what we believe is possible, right, 308 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: And it's hard to believe things are possible. But even 309 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: then we don't rise to what we believe is possible, 310 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: we still fall to what we believe we're worthy of. 311 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: It is that one thing at an identity level that 312 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: we will always return to and and building. It is everything. 313 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I have you ever had a guest jump 314 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: out of your chair before? 315 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: No, it comes, of course, And I'm glad that you 316 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: raised that because what I wanted to do with you, 317 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: which I think would be really important, which is what 318 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: resonated so strongly with me about your book, was these lies. 319 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: Like as I sat here and I read through the lies, yeah, 320 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: I was just like, I've told myself that one, I've 321 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: told myself that, one, I've told myself that one. 322 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: I've told myself that. 323 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: And I think our community who's listening to on purpose 324 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: right now or watching will definitely feel like these lies 325 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: are relatable. So I'd love to dive into some of 326 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: them that really stick out to me. And I love 327 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: that you've made about unlearning lies rather than building self worth, 328 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: because it almost feels so hard to be like, well, 329 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: how do I build my self worth? But when you 330 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: recognize that actually we're trying to extract and excavate through 331 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: all of these lies, it makes a lot of sense. 332 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: So let's start with I want to start. 333 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm not going to go through all of them because 334 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: I want you guys to read the book, but I'm 335 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: going to pick out a couple that really resonated with me. 336 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: The first one that really resonated with me was, of course, 337 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: don't wait on your weight. The lie my weight impacts 338 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: my worth. This has been conditioned deeply into society and 339 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: into culture that their weight impacts their worth. Everyone, even 340 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: if they don't say it, subconsciously feels it in some 341 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: way or another. There's comparison as envy, there's images that 342 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: are put in front of you about what you should 343 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: be aiming for and what you should be woke us 344 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: through that personally and in how we unlearn. 345 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: That, yes, the lie your weight determines your worth has 346 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: cost so many of us, like so much in our 347 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: life believing that lie. And I talk a lot about 348 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: this idea of don't wait on your weight to live 349 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: your best life. And this is a whole chapter in 350 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: Worthy Like You, Like You Should, I go into all 351 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: these lies and how do you unlearn them? And this 352 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: chapter is not about your weight. It's about that if 353 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: you've been waiting on your weight to live your best life, 354 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: or by the way, the weight of expectations, other people's expectations, 355 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: or your own, what weight are you, you know, letting 356 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: hold you down? So this idea that your weight determines 357 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: your worth is a lie, and it is a lie 358 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: that is impacting so many of us right now as 359 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: we speak, eighty nine percent, eighty nine percent of girls 360 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: and women will opt out of meaningful activities, including interacting 361 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: with friends or loved ones, when they don't like how 362 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: they look. And jay most of my life, I believe 363 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: this lie, even when I was crushing it by all 364 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: other measures. I still, even when I built a company 365 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: that was inspiring and does inspire millions and millions and 366 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: millions of people to embrace who they are, I was 367 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: still believing this lie that my weight determined my worth, 368 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: and I was still waiting on my weight for that 369 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: and the big way to overcome this lie because first 370 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: of all, it is a lie. Second of all, for 371 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: anyone who has hit fitness goals or hit weight goal, 372 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: they know you still arrive at that goal and you 373 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: still don't feel in that it does not it does 374 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: not change who you are, right because because it is 375 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: an external thing that can fluctuate confidence, but it is 376 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: it does not impact your worth. That's the first thing. 377 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: No matter what your weight is or isn't it, it 378 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: is irrelevant to your self worth and understanding. That's really 379 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: really important. But then how to break free of this 380 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: lie is to flip it on its head, which is 381 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: what happened to me in my life. And as human beings, 382 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: as you know, we're wired to avoid pain at all costs. 383 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: And we think, oh if I you know, we're waiting 384 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: on our weight to to live our best lives. And 385 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: we think, oh, because I'm not what I think I 386 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: need to look like, I'm going to skip out on 387 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: the event. I'm not going to go. 388 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: To the party, apply for the job. 389 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to apply for the job. I'm not 390 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: going to put myself out in the dating world until 391 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm this or that I'm going to stand in the 392 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: back of the photo. Right, I'm not going to live 393 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: my best life. And because I think I attach pain 394 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: to that attack, the pain of oh I might be 395 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: judged if I go out in a swimsuit. Oh I 396 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: might get disapproval, I might be all of these things, 397 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: and so we hide. When you flip this around, this 398 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: is for everyone listening right now, and this impacts men 399 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: in a huge way too, as well as women. But 400 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: the numbers are just staggering. But when you flip it 401 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: around and go, well, wait a minute, what has waiting 402 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: on my weight already cost me in my life? That 403 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: pain of the regret, when we flip it around and 404 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: think of it that way, that pain is far more 405 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: painful than well, what happens if I'm judged at a party. 406 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: And in my life I spent decades like telling myself, oh, 407 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: nothing fits, I'm just not going to go I'm just 408 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: going to miss out on this. And it was having 409 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: my daughter and I remember this moment, Jay. I was 410 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: at a public hotel, lots of people there, people I 411 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: knew were there, and my daughter was one years old 412 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: and going to go swimming for the first time, and 413 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: I was literally on the side of the pool. I 414 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: look so cute, but I was covered up, covered up 415 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: in a edit swim suit. But I was covered up, 416 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: covered up, covered up, sunglasses, had all the things. And 417 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just gonna watch my husband take 418 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: her and swim. And I had this moment where I'm like, 419 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: I know why I'm gonna sit here and watch. I'm 420 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: about to miss out on the first moment my daughter's 421 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: gonna swim because I am still waiting on my weight 422 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: to live my best life. And when I looked at like, 423 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: what has this already cost me? The memories, the joy, 424 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: the all of it, right, And I also realized me 425 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: doing this is actually me telling her she is not 426 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: worthy of her of her body, right. And I'm like, 427 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: the pain of that is far more. And that was 428 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: the moment I literally took my cover up off. I 429 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: walked over to the pool in front of everyone. I 430 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: shook my cellulite with joy, like jiggled my satelite with 431 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: joy Jashetty and I got right in the pool. I 432 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: swam with my daughter wonder and I'm like, I'm done. 433 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: I am done waiting on my weight. And here's the thing. Y'all. 434 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: First of all, no one cares you know what I 435 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: mean about, even even people that are really high profile 436 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: that at the end of the day, it cannot impact 437 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: your worth. And to unlearn this lie. The most important 438 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: thing first of all is to realize it has been 439 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: a lie impacting you, and then to go, wow, okay, 440 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: let me really understand the difference between self worth and 441 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: self confidence and understanding the difference and then understanding, okay, 442 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: this lies impacting my self confidence. It doesn't touch my worth, 443 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: but it is impacting my self confidence. Now how do 444 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: I unlearn it? There? How do I unlearn it? And 445 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: this is how you learn it? And I go deep 446 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: into how to do this in the book because when 447 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: we can reframe a lie and believe and not only 448 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: associate more pain with believing it than with just going 449 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: for it, that's when as human being will go for it. 450 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: No, I think that question that you asked is huge, 451 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: that question. 452 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: Of what has it cost me? 453 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: Yes? 454 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: And to think that you could have never had that 455 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: experience with your daughter, who is adorable, but like to 456 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: have that moment with her? 457 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: Do you remember? 458 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: Do you remember? I'm going to share this with you. 459 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: So we were at an airport together and my daughter 460 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: the first time she met Jay, she walks up to 461 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: you and she calls you dad. 462 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: She's adorable as well, so I was like, I'll take you. 463 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: I'll tell you. 464 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: She's so cute. 465 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: She's really shy. She just walks right up to you 466 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: and cause you Dad. I'm like, what's happening right now? 467 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 3: That's so funny. 468 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 2: I love it. 469 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: You remember my husband poly comesamic pol I promise. 470 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 3: You don't worry. 471 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: So cute And it's like to think, I love that 472 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: question because I think it's really practical for everyone listening 473 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: and watching right now to ask yourself what does it 474 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: already cost you? 475 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: And what is it going to cost you? That memory 476 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: with your. 477 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: Child, yes, that potential job that fulfills your dream, that 478 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: great memory with friends, that whatever it may be, like, 479 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: we're all missing out on something because of that, and 480 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 2: that is such a great just that one question, just 481 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: that question is a great. 482 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: Way to read. 483 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: And I know we're going to dive into some of 484 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: the lives this whole book when when, oh my gosh, Jay, 485 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 1: this is the thing when you ask yourself what is 486 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: self doubt already cost you in your life? Right? And 487 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: then you look at it from that perspective, and a 488 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: lot of us we spend so much time building skill 489 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: sets and those are important, you know, you know, you 490 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: know I was talking about it's important to put in 491 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: the reps and get the experience and all the things, 492 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: but also learning how to unlearn the lives that lead 493 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: a self doubt. Oh my gosh, because again, our self 494 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: worth is our ceiling and so just it's so powerful. 495 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. And we've had that doubting voice, whether it's come 496 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: through teachers, family members, whether it's come through your friend 497 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 2: at school, whatever it was. We've all adopted doubting voices 498 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 2: over time. Yes, and now we've replayed them to ourselves 499 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: in our own voice, and we think they're us, when 500 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 2: in fact they've just been conditioned and trained. 501 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 4: Yes. 502 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: And self doubt will kill more dreams than almost anything else, 503 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: like literally, and it is a lie, right, And self 504 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: doubt lives in our head. It's our thoughts, but it 505 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: is not you. It is not you. And it's like 506 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: our knowing, our truth, our worthiness. I feel like it's 507 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: in our soul, it's innate. I remember a moment Jay 508 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: where my whole life I as a little girl, I 509 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: was their home alone and I'd watch Oprah and she 510 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: was like my hero, right, and I dreamed of meeting 511 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: her one day. So for everyone listening, maybe you had 512 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: a like a maybe your hero was Superman or like 513 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: we all have different I dreamed of meeting her. I'd 514 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: watch her and I'm like, one day I'm going to 515 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: host a show and share other people's stories with the world. 516 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: And she was just my hero my whole life. And 517 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: I remember this moment as a little girl where I'm like, 518 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to meet her. I just had this knowing 519 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: I'm going to meet her, which made no sense. I'm 520 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: in the middle of a suburb of Washington State, like 521 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: I just knew it, and I dared to believe it 522 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: was going to happen. I dared, I prayed it would happen. 523 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: Fast forward thirty nine years and I had a chance 524 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: to meet her at an event which is the long 525 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: story I won't go into. It was amazing. And then 526 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: after it went by so fast, I wrote her a 527 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: letter after and sent it to her chief of staff, 528 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: which is one in a billion that she would read 529 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: that the chief of staff would read it. Amy was 530 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: her name, Then one in a billion she would share it. 531 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: Then one in a billion Oprah would read it. All 532 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: those things happened, and Oprah invite I meet her house 533 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: for lunch. And I'm sharing this because everyone listening, I think, 534 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: is going to have an AHA on their own life 535 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: with how we handle and how we sabotage things we 536 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: don't believe we're worthy of. And now this was my dream, 537 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: my whole life. And I went to her house for lunch, 538 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: which is like what in the world, right, And we 539 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: had a three hour lunch just me and her. At 540 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: the very end, this is my lifelong dream. At the 541 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: very end of it, she gave me her cell phone number. 542 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: She said, call me anytime. You can call me anytime, 543 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: and Jay, in this moment my life, and I just 544 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: want everyone to put theirselves in these shoes because we 545 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: all do this. I was really confident. I did not 546 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: know there is a big difference between self confidence and 547 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: self worth. And everything was going right in my life 548 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: right like I just sold a cosmetic trel to money 549 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: like the Forbes list. All these things were and I 550 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: was really confident. And the day she gave me her number, 551 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: I did not call her for four years, literally didn't 552 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: call her for four years. And in that four year stretch. 553 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: I told myself stories that I thought were true, like, oh, 554 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: I just need to have the perfect thing to say, 555 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna call her, or I bet everyone wants 556 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: something from her. I'm going to prove I don't need anything. 557 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, I tell myself. And literally four 558 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: years later it hit me like this light bulb that 559 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: burst where I was like, the real reason I have 560 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: not called her was because deep down inside I didn't 561 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: believe I was worthy of being her friend. And this 562 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: is what self worth low self worth will do to you. 563 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: You can have a lot of confidence, you could be 564 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: crushing it everywhere, but you sabotage an opportunity, You sabotage 565 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: your marriage, you sabotage your friendship. It shows up in 566 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: different areas. And that was the day you remind me 567 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: of the story because you're talking about our thoughts and 568 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: our self doubt. That was the day when this happened 569 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: and I realized it. I literally I imagine myself turning 570 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: down the dial like almost like a volume dial and 571 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: of a radio of my thoughts and my self doubt 572 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: that says you are not worthy of being her friend. 573 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: And I imagine like turning up the volume on my soul, 574 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: like my knowing, because I am a kick ass friend. 575 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: I know I am worthy of being her or anyway, 576 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: I am such a good friend and I know that, 577 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: and I remember turning the volume up on that knowing. 578 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: And that was the moment I called her, when I 579 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: learned to turn down the volume on the lies that 580 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: tell us we are not enough and unworthy and like 581 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: tune into our soul and to our knowing. And that 582 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,959 Speaker 1: was the day I called her. At first I called her, 583 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: she did not answer. I was like, oh my gosh, 584 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: for you. 585 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: She didn't answer. 586 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: But then I called again and she did. And that 587 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: was the day I became obsessed with studying self worth 588 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: because I realized, oh my gosh, while self confidence is 589 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: so important, while I've worked so hard and I'm so proud, 590 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: and I believe, we always need to be building self 591 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: confidence and growing and contributing to something bigger than ourselves 592 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: to feel fulfillment. All of those things are multiplied by 593 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: our level of self worth and anything time zero is zero. 594 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: So if we do not feel we are enough deep down, 595 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: it is why we will be perpetually unfulfilled, no matter 596 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: how much we achieve and what is the point of 597 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: all of it if we are unfulfilled and don't enjoy it? 598 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: And so became obsessed with studying self worth. And I 599 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: just think about how, you know, I taught a course 600 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: with her this last year and now it's and it 601 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: almost didn't happen. And when I think about, what does 602 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: self that already cost you? Like for everyone listening and 603 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: watching us right now, what hasn't happened? Like I almost 604 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: so many times Jay doubted myself out of my own destiny, right, 605 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: and like this is why building self worth is so important. 606 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm a little passionate about that. 607 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 3: Worthy, the little passionate. I love it. 608 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: No, But you have a chapter in here called Change 609 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: your Relationship with Rejection, Yes, And I think what's really 610 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: interesting about that is that rejection is a reminder that 611 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: we don't have self worth. Right. 612 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 3: That's the root of why it hurts so much, is. 613 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: Because when someone rejects us, it reminds us of how 614 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 2: we've been rejecting ourselves time and time and time and 615 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: time again. We haven't showed up for ourself, we haven't 616 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: lived our authentic self. We have rejected ourself. And so 617 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 2: when someone rejects that part of us, it causes so 618 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: much pain. So when you're telling us to change your 619 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: relationship with rejection, yes, how does one even stop? Because 620 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: I think, whether someone's trying to become an actor, whether 621 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: someone's trying to get a job, whether someone's trying to 622 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: find a partner, rejection is almost the path. 623 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: Yes, but we don't always see it that way. 624 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: Yes, And I love what you just said, which is 625 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: so insightful. Every single time we show up inauthentically too, 626 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: every time we're not who we are. Every time we 627 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: show up as our representative in a room or the 628 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: people pleaser and we say yes when we mean no, 629 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: Or any time we show up as someone who we 630 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: think other people want us to be, but not as 631 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: who we are, we are telling ourselves we are unworthy 632 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: of being who we are, and we slowly but surely 633 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: chip away at our self worth. There's a whole chapter 634 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: in here called You're not crazy, You're just first, And 635 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: it's all about the power and the data behind it 636 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: of Oh my gosh, about how so often the things 637 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,239 Speaker 1: that we think are wrong or odd or quirky or 638 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: off or different or strange or or wrong about us 639 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: are actually the things that are most right about us. 640 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: And literally I built a billion dollar business figuring this out. 641 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: Is this tastes like freedom when you embrace this, this 642 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: tastes like freedom. I'm so excited for everyone to read 643 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: that chapter and also the one you're talking about. When 644 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: you change your relationship with rejection, you change your life 645 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: and exactly what you said. So again, so a lot 646 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: of us associate so much pain with getting rejected or 647 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: failing right that will stay stuck and and to your point, 648 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: it can hit deeper. So here's the thing. Whether we've 649 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: been rejecting ourselves by not showing up authentically, or a 650 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: lot of us are unaware of past rejections or failures. 651 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: And when we build self worth, what's beautiful is rejections 652 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: and failures. They just shake our confidence for a bit, 653 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: but they cannot touch our self worth. But for a 654 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: lot of us, we've had past rejections or failures that, 655 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: yes have hurt our confidence, but we've let them take 656 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: real at an identity level, and we've started to believe 657 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: we're a failure or we're a reject, and that is 658 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: when they crush yourself worth. And so I go into 659 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: a four part framework called the four RS. And this chapter, 660 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: and it is, oh my gosh, this might be my 661 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: favorite chapter because this was almost its own book. When 662 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: you change your relationship with the rejection, you change your life. 663 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: I did not want to wait two and a half 664 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: more years to put it out, which, as you know, 665 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: as an author, you have to wait. I'm like, no, 666 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: pe believe this now. So it's now chapter two in 667 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: the book. But here's the thing. When I was building 668 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: it cosmetics, what a lot of people don't know. They 669 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: just kind of read the press headline, oh Denny's waitress 670 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: builds billion dollar company. But it was hundreds and hundreds 671 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: of rejections along the way. It was so many people 672 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: that I just love, and I used to save my 673 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: Denny's tip money to buy a lipstick at Sephora, and 674 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: in the departments are like, I love shopping there, and 675 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're telling me, no, that my 676 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: idea is not going to work, the brand's not going 677 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: to And this was no, after no, after no, after no. 678 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: And from the point I launched this business in my 679 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: living room, it was three years before I could even 680 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: afford to pay myself a penny. But then hundreds and 681 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of nos And here's the thing. A 682 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: lot of people, maybe they know it cosmetics today and 683 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: they see it at Sephora or at all to Beauty 684 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: or at you know, in the department stores on QVC, 685 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 1: and they don't realize it was actually years of all 686 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: of them saying no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 687 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: no, no no, and Jay, sometimes it wasn't just no, it 688 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: was like no come back later, it was like no. 689 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: Like some of the nos were so painful, I would 690 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: cry myself to sleep under the covers. And most of 691 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: us have so much pain attached to rejection that we 692 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: give up after one no or five nos, or we 693 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: start to think that someone else's rejection or no or 694 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: disbelief in us or whatever it might be, is some 695 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: indication of our potential or some indication of our idea 696 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: or our dream or our te and it is not. 697 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: It is not. And so what I my intention behind 698 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: this chapter was, I was like, Okay, let me break 699 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: down at a granular level, what are the tools on 700 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: how to reframe rejection so that you actually embrace it 701 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: in a way where you become fearless over it? And 702 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: I break down the four rs, which is how I 703 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: went from you know, going through hundreds of rejections and 704 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: literally not letting them take root, literally deciding like, oh, 705 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, this is no indication if my business is 706 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: going to make it, if my idea is right. And 707 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: there was one moment after this really painful rejection from QVC, 708 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: and I knew in my knowing, right we talk about 709 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: our knowing. In my knowing, Jay, I knew like I'm 710 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing this, And every time i'd pray 711 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: or get still, I just felt this knowing like I'm 712 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing it. But everyone around me was 713 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: telling me no. Potential investors were telling me no. All 714 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: these retailers were telling me no. And two things for 715 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: anyone who needs this today, what I realized is, Okay, 716 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm getting all these nos. But when I get still, 717 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: and for some people that's meditation, for some people that's prayer. 718 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: When I get still and I pray, I will hear 719 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: a knowing. And every one of us has a knowing, 720 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: and your knowing is more powerful than anyone else's advice. 721 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: And in this case, I had this journey of all 722 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: these nos, and I had my knowing, and I believe 723 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: which one you listen to? Do you listen to the nose, 724 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: and sometimes our thoughts we're the ones telling ourselves the 725 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: most painful nose or do you listen to your knowing? Right, 726 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: And whether you listen to the nose or the knowing, 727 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: I think your life, your business, your relationships can come 728 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: down to which one you listen to. But when we're 729 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: in the journey of understanding that, the nose can be 730 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: really painful. So there was one particular moment I was 731 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: crying under my covers from another rejection from KVC, and 732 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: I started googling every thought leader, every person who has 733 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: helped me with humanity forward, every person in business who's 734 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: ever built incredible things. Every single one of them has 735 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: faced countless rejections, countless failures, countless setbacks. They're just the 736 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: brave ones willing to keep going anyways. And what I 737 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 1: realized in that moment was every time I had been 738 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: getting a no up till then, the first thought I'd 739 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: have is yet there's proof I'm not enough right So, 740 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: and why that's important is for everyone listening, if you 741 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: imagine yourself getting rejected, or imagine yourself putting yourself out 742 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: there telling the person you want to be more than 743 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: just friends, or putting an idea on social media, or 744 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: going for the business or applying for the job, and 745 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: you imagine yourself getting rejected or failure or failing at it. 746 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: Think about the first thought you think, Like for me 747 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: most of my whole life, it was Yep, I'm not enough. 748 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: Proof I'm not. For a lot of us, that first 749 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: thought is so painful. And by the way, that first 750 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: thought is actually your current definition of rejection or failure. 751 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: That is the meaning, whether you know it or not, 752 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: that you're assigning to rejection or failure. And that meaning 753 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: for so many of us is so painful that it 754 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: will keep us stuck. We will quit, we will give up, 755 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: right And so for me my whole life, it was, oh, yeah, 756 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: there's proof I'm not enough. And in this single moment 757 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: crying under the covers, then googling all these people and realizing, wow, 758 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: they've all had a million rejections. They're just the brave 759 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: ones willing to keep going anyways, And that day I 760 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: wrote down, rejection does not mean I'm not enough. Rejection 761 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: means I'm one of the brave ones. Like it's a victory. 762 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm one of the brave ones willing to keep going. 763 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,959 Speaker 1: Forward anyway, I am not one of the ones sitting 764 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: on the sidelines in regret, right, No, I'm one of 765 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: the brave ones. And so I reframed it, and then 766 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 1: every time I got another no, I committed right, because 767 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: right away I would think, oh, yeah, proof I'm not enough, 768 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no, I'd intercept that thought replace it 769 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: with this new definition, like this is a victory means 770 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm one of the brave ones willing to go for it, 771 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: and I believe that to be true. And so this 772 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: four part our framework is to reveal your current definition 773 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: of rejection, which we all did right the first thought 774 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: you have and you rejected or failure, that's actually your 775 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: current definition. And for a lot of us, it's real 776 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: painful when I ask groups of people this. It's like 777 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have even tried. I'm a loser, I'm stupid. 778 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: Why did I go for it? That's your current definition exactly. 779 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: And so then when you redefine it, which is what 780 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: I started to do in that moment where I wrote out, oh, 781 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: rejection doesn't mean I'm not enough, it means I'm one 782 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: of the brave ones willing to go for it. And 783 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: then I started building a toolbox in my life. That's 784 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: great of new definitions. So another one I love is rejections. 785 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: God's protection, right, Rejection is the Universe's protection. Rejection means 786 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm one step closer to that. Yes, Rejection is that 787 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm putting in the reps. I'm getting strong enough to 788 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: carry the weight of my success when it does happen. 789 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: Rejection means like, Okay, I'm excited for what's coming because 790 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: this is not happening to me, it's happening for me, 791 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to write. So I go through 792 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 1: in the book how you do this and build this 793 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: new set of definitions that you're committed to. And then 794 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: the third R is my favorite, and it is called revisit. 795 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: And this is the one that will change everything. It's 796 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: going to be really emotional for everyone likely who does it. 797 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: But Jay, a lot of us have past rejections or failures. 798 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: The person that broke our heart, the person that we 799 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: wanted it to work out so bad and it didn't, 800 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: or the job we wanted so bad and they didn't 801 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: see our value and we don't know why, or the 802 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: partner who betrayed us, or the friend that pulled the 803 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: rug out from underneath you, or the new friend that 804 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: did not invite you to the party and you don't 805 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: know why. And the third R is revisit And this 806 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: is where you go to rejections that have happened that 807 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: you've let take root into your identity and convinced you 808 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: you're somehow a rejector you're somehow a failure. And then 809 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: you apply these first two steps to them, reveal what 810 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: your meaning is you're giving to them, and then you 811 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: redefine them. And this is like, oh my gosh, so 812 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: many of us are letting past rejections and failures stick 813 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: to us like labels that we think are permanent, that 814 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: are like lead balloons on our wings when we're trying 815 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: to fly and we're trying to soar, but we're holding 816 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: ourselves down. And I have done this with so many 817 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: things in my life and it has been huge because 818 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: two quick things. I'm so excited. But you know, I 819 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: was adopted and I was raised by parents who, oh 820 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: my gosh, I feel so blessed, but they worked a lot, 821 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: and I was always home alone watching Oprah in my 822 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: living room. But all growing up and later in life 823 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: I found out I was adopted and I always had 824 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: this told myself the story that or I always felt 825 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: abandoned or unwanted, and the way that that came out 826 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: in my life, Oh my gosh, Like I would stay 827 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 1: in toxic relationships because I didn't want to abandon the person. 828 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: Later on, when I'm crushing it in business and have 829 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: over a thousand employees in my company, I would not 830 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: fire employees soon enough when like they really really deserved it, 831 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: because I didn't want to abandon them. And I went 832 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: through this process in the book, and I realized the 833 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: meaning I was giving to being adopted, the meaning I 834 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: was given to growing up alone a lot. And I realized, Okay, 835 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: I can tell myself that story or I can actually 836 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: redefine it in a way I know is true. And 837 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 1: I just decided, okay, you know what, my birth mom 838 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: and dad were together one time. Ever, like God chose 839 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: me to be conceived, and then my birth mom's life 840 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: would have been so much easier if she did not 841 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: have me, but she chose to bring me in the world, 842 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: and my parents chose to raise me. I'm like, I'm 843 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: not unwanted, I'm chosen, and like I believe that to 844 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: be true, and it has shifted how I show up 845 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 1: in friendships. It has shifted how I believe I'm worthy 846 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: of friendships and my all time favorite just in case 847 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: someone needs this today, because I think so many of 848 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: us have been hurt by other people, have been hurt, 849 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: have people have not loved us the way we need, 850 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: or we're just hurt because we feel like we're not included, 851 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: or our friend doesn't see our value, or we're trying 852 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: so hard to put ourselves out there and it's not working. 853 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: I will tell myself this definition, and this is for 854 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: someone who needs this today. I feel it my soul. 855 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 1: I will literally imagine God saying to me, oh, you 856 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,959 Speaker 1: weren't rejected. I hid your value from them because they're 857 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: not assigned to your destiny. And I will believe it. 858 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: And even to this day, it helps me, like, let 859 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 1: rejections rule right off me. Like if I'm not invited 860 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: to a party, Jay, the old me wants to think 861 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm not enough, and right away I'm like, oh, Okay, 862 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: God's blocking my value from that person because I don't 863 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: know why, but they're not assigned to my destiny. And 864 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust it. I'm gonna believe it, and it 865 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 1: helps me not let these things take root in my 866 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: identity and it helps me just like break free from them. 867 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: And so I go through the whole four part framework 868 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: of how to do this. But I can tell you 869 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 1: it's almost never an accident when someone has been able 870 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: to create or build or succeed in something. And while 871 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: I have made so many mistakes and I have a 872 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: lot of issues in my life right now, fear of 873 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: rejection and failure is not one of them. It is 874 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: literally one of the tools on how I endured hundreds 875 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: and hundreds and hundreds of rejections. And then Jay like, 876 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: what's so kind of cool? This is cool? Is just 877 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: because I know someone needs to hear this today. That 878 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: someone else's doubt about you is no indication. It's no 879 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: indication of your potential, of if your dream's going to work, 880 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 1: of if your idea is going to work, if if 881 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna make it, if your business is going to succeed. 882 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: And I look back and every single person that told 883 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: me no along the journey of building at Cosmetics, and 884 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: sometimes it was years, even after we built the number 885 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: one brand and QVC number one beauty brand in their history, 886 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: after they said no for years even after that, I 887 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: think it was like know how many more years before 888 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: Sephora finally said yes, it was no after know it forever, 889 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,399 Speaker 1: and every single one of those nos turned into a yes, 890 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: every single one of them. And it's just like, I 891 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: don't know who needs to hear this, but if you 892 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: have a knowing, if you have a knowing that you 893 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: are supposed to be doing what you're doing, whether it's 894 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: putting your art or your talent out there in the world, 895 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: or going for that job or launching that business, like 896 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: other people's nos cannot compete with your knowing. And you've 897 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: got to trust your knowing. The second you start trusting 898 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: all those other nos or the nos that get in 899 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: your head, that will take you down all day long, 900 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 1: right it will. But those that rejection, those nos are 901 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: no indication of your potential. And so it was just 902 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: really important for me to go through. It's really a 903 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: masterclass in that and worthy on. How do you reframe 904 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: rejection and learn to believe it so it does not 905 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: have power over you and it doesn't take root in 906 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: your self worth and it doesn't hold you back. So 907 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: I hope I can't wait for to hear how this 908 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: blesses people, and I want them to share this first 909 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: of all, any when listening, share this episode with someone 910 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: who's like, oh my gosh, if they knew how to 911 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: like reframe and know a reframe rejection. But then post 912 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,240 Speaker 1: and tag j and tell them how this is impacting 913 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: your life because this is yeah, it just tastes like freedom. 914 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: And it's all a lie. You know, someone else's rejection 915 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: impacts our potential. That is a lie. That is a lie, 916 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: and when we learn not to believe it, it's just 917 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: it's freedom. 918 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 2: You can see the freedom on your face. And I 919 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 2: want I want to know just so that you know 920 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 2: some of the other lies that I think you'll love 921 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 2: to read when you get the book. Lie, I don't 922 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 2: have anything special to offer. You're going to love that 923 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 2: chapter another lie. I need to please them to love me. 924 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 2: That's going to be another lie. That chapter is going 925 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 2: to blow your mind. And there are so many other 926 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 2: phenomenal inside tools. Jamie has just shared a tip of 927 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 2: the Iceberg version of some of the amazing tools that 928 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 2: are inside this book. And Jamie, I want to ask 929 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 2: you one last question that I'm sitting with us, I'm 930 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 2: looking at your beautiful cover I'm witnessing you like a 931 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,720 Speaker 2: rocket ship flying off of this seat. And which lie 932 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 2: are you still trying to unlearn? 933 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: Which lie am I still trying to unlearn? I think 934 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: every single day I work to unlearn them. The one 935 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 1: I will say that I that feels the best to 936 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: be unlearning right now. I mentioned it a little bit 937 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: earlier but didn't go into it. And maybe this is 938 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: exactly for someone right now. It's so funny. I'm not 939 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: even thinking about you and me. I am thinking about 940 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,800 Speaker 1: the person listening who is just going to break free 941 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 1: with this. That's why I'm getting so excited. But my 942 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: whole life jay for anyone who has felt like they're 943 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: a little odd or different, or maybe they don't quite 944 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: fit in with their family, or they're like the one 945 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: that likes to read books when no one else does, 946 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: or they're the one that you know, I used yes 947 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: podcast or has big dreams. I always felt like I 948 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: had to kind of change who I was to fit in, 949 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: and that who I was, if I was fully me, 950 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 1: I would not belong And I always kind of felt 951 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: like that, and I always felt a little bit different, 952 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: and I remember growing up I would have these big, 953 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: wild ideas about you know, things that could impact the world. 954 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: And again, I have loving, blessed, loving family, but I 955 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: would often hear things like things like that don't happen 956 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: to people like us, or you know things like that, right, 957 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: And I remember, and I'd always hear like, you're crazy, 958 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: you're crazy, and it was a term of endearment, but 959 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: you know you're crazy. Who do you think you are? 960 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: And I just got really good at dimming my own 961 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 1: light to make everyone comfortable. I got really good at 962 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,760 Speaker 1: people pleasing, And in my twenties, I was the first 963 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 1: person in my five families that I'm aware of to 964 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: go to therapy. No one had ever on a therapy 965 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 1: that I am aware of. And I remember flat out 966 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: asking my therapist. I said, you know, I'm am I crazy, 967 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: Like my family's always said these words as terms of endearment, 968 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: but like I feel like I'm very different and I 969 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 1: don't fit in. And I asked her and she said, 970 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 1: You're not crazy, but I'm really glad you're here. And 971 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 1: she explained to me that when you are the first 972 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: in your family or your peer group, or the people 973 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: you are raised around or your colleagues, when you're the 974 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: first to actually be brave enough to be who you 975 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 1: authentically are and be willing to think different or love different, 976 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 1: or vote different or create different right that will. It 977 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: often comes with feeling othered or feeling like you don't 978 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: quite fit in or you don't quite belong because you 979 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,720 Speaker 1: are the first ever you. And I remember this moment 980 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: that hit me like a light bulb, like so bright 981 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: it burst, when I realized I'm not crazy, I'm just first. 982 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: Not crazy, I'm just first. I'm the first ever me 983 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 1: and every person listening to you and me right now, 984 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: like you are the first ever you. And if you 985 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: are one of the brave ones willing to show up 986 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: in this life as who you truly authentically are, you 987 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 1: are first. There has never been another you before, there 988 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 1: will never be another you again, Like no one in 989 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 1: this world has your unique fingerprints or tongue print or 990 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: iris of your eyes, or we all have a unique heartbeat. 991 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: But also, if you think about this, right for everyone listening, 992 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: no one else has you know the experiences you have 993 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: and the emotions that you feel or sees art or 994 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: beauty in the world the way you do. And so 995 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: when you show up authentically as who you are, do 996 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: not be surprised if not. Everyone gets it like they've 997 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: never seen another you before. 998 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 3: Right. 999 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 1: There's no social proof that your idea is gonna work 1000 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: if you're doing it authentically because it's never been done before. 1001 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: And when we talk about that lie about oh I 1002 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: have nothing special to Okay, I walked into a beauty 1003 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: industry with tens of thousands of brands, and I launched 1004 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: a concealer, then a foundation that has been done a 1005 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: million times before. But guess what I dare to do 1006 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,879 Speaker 1: it authentic to me, right, and that has never been 1007 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: done before. And so for every person listening who thinks 1008 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: someone's done my idea, someone's done it better than me, 1009 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: someone's done it smarter than me, that is a lie. 1010 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: Because when you are willing to be the brave one 1011 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: and show up is who you authentically are, you cannot 1012 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: prove me wrong. It has never been done before. Your 1013 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: idea has never been done before the way you're gonna 1014 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: do it. And that is why it is your superpower 1015 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,439 Speaker 1: to be fully authentically you, because we think, oh, those 1016 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: things are wrong if they found out who I really 1017 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: am of you know, oh h ah, the second you 1018 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: are not you, there's an automatic barrier of disconnection between 1019 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,720 Speaker 1: you and customers, you and a potential partner, you and friends. 1020 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,760 Speaker 1: When you are who you fully are, even the quirks 1021 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: and all that is your superpower. You are not crazy. 1022 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: You are just first. And that has been I think 1023 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: of all the lies, that is the one that is 1024 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: the most freeing, It is the most liberating. It has 1025 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: brought me so much closer in my friendships right and 1026 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,720 Speaker 1: walking into this room with you, Jay Sheddy, a friend 1027 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 1: who I love and a door if I am thinking about, oh, 1028 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: I need to be a great guest and say the 1029 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: right things, and I do. There's now a barrier of 1030 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: disconnection between me and you, between me and every single 1031 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: person listening and watching right now. And there's probably a 1032 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: billion things I've said that I could do such a 1033 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: better job at. But guess what I said, am fully me. 1034 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 1: I was jumping out of my chair because that is full. 1035 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: But this is how people connect. And so every person 1036 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: listening who feels like they have to be something slightly 1037 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: other than who they are, ah ah ah, you are 1038 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 1: not crazy or a different You're first, right, And the 1039 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: last thing I'll say to that Jay, When I was 1040 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,479 Speaker 1: finally got one shot on QVC after years them telling 1041 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: me no, and we sold out in ten minutes, which 1042 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,879 Speaker 1: is a wild story. And then I eventually did over 1043 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 1: one thousand live shows. Right we were selling over two 1044 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in product a year just meet to 1045 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: a camera on QVC. I mean, the whole thing was wild. 1046 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: But I sat in that green room for over eight years, 1047 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 1: over one thousand shows, and I met tens of thousands 1048 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: of entrepreneurs, of brand founders, of celebrities, of people that 1049 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: came in to sell their product on air. One out 1050 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: of every I don't know a thousand ever come back 1051 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: because it is so hard to hit the sales numbers 1052 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: because you're live on air and they know by the 1053 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: second if you're hitting sales numbers. And I remember watching 1054 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 1: this and this is for everyone listening right now. I 1055 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: remember watching over an eight year window, going what is 1056 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: that commonality with the very few who make it? What 1057 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: is that the very few who get you know, hey, 1058 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,320 Speaker 1: hit numbers, get invited back another time and eventually build 1059 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 1: something that lasts. What is that commonality? And I would 1060 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: just watch watch tens of thousands of from every the 1061 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 1: biggest brands in the world, the most famous people in 1062 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: the world, the greatest founders, and literally it was not 1063 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 1: who had the best product, It was not who is 1064 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: the most famous. It was not who's giving the best 1065 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 1: discount or deal of the day, none of that. And 1066 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: it was not who's the most seasoned salesperson or television professional. 1067 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: The only thing they had in common, the very few 1068 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: who made it, was that they are the same on 1069 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: air when they are talking to customers and selling their 1070 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,919 Speaker 1: product as they are off air in the green room. 1071 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 1: And it did not matter if they're extroverted or introverted, 1072 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 1: if they're quirky and out there in big personality or 1073 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: like really quiet and very like meticulate, it didn't matter. 1074 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: It's the ones that were the exact same, because you 1075 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: cannot fake authenticity and customers and people sense it and 1076 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: feel it. Whether it's your online community or it's the 1077 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: people buying your pric it doesn't matter. And when I 1078 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 1: watch that, I'm like, this is the most freeing thing 1079 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,280 Speaker 1: ever because it takes all the pressure off of feeling 1080 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: like you got to be something you're not, or you 1081 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: got to show up as your representative. And I saw 1082 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: proof before my eyes in the form of literally success 1083 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: of conversion to sales of people trusting that person, like 1084 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 1: right before my eyes, year after year after year, that 1085 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 1: it does not matter how you show up, you just 1086 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,799 Speaker 1: have to be authentic, like that's it, and how few 1087 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: people are and what I realized. The last thing I'll 1088 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 1: say is that that I realize this lesson that I 1089 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: try to live by every single day because I think 1090 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: this applies to every area of our lives. That while 1091 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: authenticity alone does not automatically guarantee success, in authenticity guarantees 1092 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: failure every time over time in every area of our life. 1093 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: But when we embrace that, it's just all the pressure 1094 00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,280 Speaker 1: comes off and it just tastes like freedom, It feels 1095 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,760 Speaker 1: like joy. So when we live in alignment with our assignment. 1096 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 2: Jamie, I want to thank you for revealing and releasing 1097 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 2: so many of the lives I have and within me 1098 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 2: during this conversation too, I really felt that sitting here 1099 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 2: and consuming and deeply immersing myself in what you were saying, 1100 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 2: there were so many wonderful releases that happened just in 1101 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 2: that process. And I'm sure that I'm not the only one. 1102 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 2: And so if you've been listening or watching, I'd love 1103 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 2: for you to grab a copy of Jamie's book Worthy, 1104 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 2: How to believe you are enough and transform your life 1105 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 2: simple steps, life changing results. The book is available now. 1106 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 2: The link is available in the caption below. Please go 1107 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 2: and grab a copy of this book. You're going to 1108 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 2: love it. And I said earlier, Jamie is donating one 1109 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 2: hundred percent of our author proceeds for Worthy as well, 1110 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 2: and so you'll also be supporting a good cause. Jamie, 1111 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 2: thank you for coming onto on Purpose today. So grateful 1112 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 2: to call you a friends, so grateful to have you 1113 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,479 Speaker 2: in the studio with us, and. 1114 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 3: So grateful that you put this book together. So thank 1115 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 3: you for being here. 1116 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jay, thank you so much. 1117 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1118 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 2: If you love this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode 1119 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 2: with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how 1120 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 2: to speak to yourself with more compassion. 1121 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 4: My fears are only going to continue to show me 1122 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 4: what I'm capable of. The more that I face my fears, 1123 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 4: the more that I feel I'm gaining strength, I'm gaining wisdom, 1124 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 4: and I just want to keep doing that.