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Speaker 1: This is Mick shot streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: It is eleven a m on the final day of
Speaker 3: the month of March, and we are inside the SWBC
Speaker 3: Podcast Studio, a new and improved s WBC podcast studio.
Speaker 3: As I look into my camera, right there underneath the
Speaker 3: camera there is a video monitor. Ever since, as you
Speaker 3: look into you, we're gonna do you have a monitor too?
Speaker 3: And Nicky, you've got the same We've go wow, well.
Speaker 4: They are really putting some money into this. They are.
Speaker 1: I don't have to look over there, I could just
Speaker 1: look straight at I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't like that. I don't want to see myself.
Speaker 2: Well it does kind of when you start talking, you
Speaker 2: know you want to talking talking season.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're going to do a test here to
Speaker 3: see if if Everson now starts looking at his camera's
Speaker 3: looking off top, he's look off topic, like looking in
Speaker 3: the mirror.
Speaker 1: We would like you to look at your camera when
Speaker 1: I see that it's like time to shave the beard.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we could have told you for weeks here.
Speaker 4: You didn't need a camera for that.
Speaker 3: Vacation to us, would we like to reveal what our
Speaker 3: weight is this morning? What's you're playing weight?
Speaker 1: You mean like when I were you in the door?
Speaker 4: Uh huh?
Speaker 3: What you're playing weight?
Speaker 1: I weighed myself on Friday one six four?
Speaker 3: What's the Let's let's put it this way. What's the
Speaker 3: lowest you've been in your adult life? Your lowest playing weight? Okay?
Speaker 4: Right now? Right now?
Speaker 1: Probably okay?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: She ask me? What's the est? Okay, so I'm not
Speaker 3: going to ask you to reveal the weight, but what
Speaker 3: would be the range? What's the highest you've been? And
Speaker 3: how many pounds highest from highest to lowest? What do
Speaker 3: you think your range has been? And your adult life.
Speaker 1: Highest would have been around one seventy four.
Speaker 3: So you're like in a ten pound range. That's it. Wow,
Speaker 3: that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Same, Well, it depends on what adult I mean, what
Speaker 1: age group are we talking about?
Speaker 3: Well? From how far college until now? So fifty years allege?
Speaker 4: In college I was adulthood whatever in college that was
Speaker 4: one ninety. In college I was one ninety. Okay.
Speaker 2: The behaviors I got in the prose was in the pros.
Speaker 2: I never got over two hundred in the pros.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right? In college and in retirement.
Speaker 2: Life retirement, I got to two ten. Now I'm about
Speaker 2: two o five. I just took a physical, so that's
Speaker 2: why I know I'm about two Okay.
Speaker 3: My playing weight is now it's two twenty five. And
Speaker 3: at one point I ballooned up to two fifty.
Speaker 4: No way, yes I did. It's trying to be a lawyer,
Speaker 4: all right.
Speaker 1: Let's see.
Speaker 3: So the reason I'm bringing this up in.
Speaker 1: College, my junior year, we had intermural wrestling and I
Speaker 1: had to bump up till one thirty four.
Speaker 3: There's a reason I'm bringing this up, okay. And it's
Speaker 3: the video that's going viral right now.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not viral.
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott supposedly is it two o five right now? What?
Speaker 3: There's a video of him on a football field throwing
Speaker 3: passes to Jalen tolber Another's and he looks great. And supposedly,
Speaker 3: and I don't know even the source of it, I
Speaker 3: just thought late last night. Yeah, and supposedly he's went
Speaker 3: in at two o five right.
Speaker 1: Now, that means going to do some more running.
Speaker 4: I hope not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
Speaker 4: I hope no.
Speaker 1: When I when I talked to him, so it had been.
Speaker 3: Schottenheimer's press conference before you say this, what so, what
Speaker 3: do you think Dak's range has been since college from?
Speaker 3: He said two o five now, which he told me.
Speaker 3: He told me I may have been after his rookie year,
Speaker 3: maybe his second year. That right after the sea. This
Speaker 3: is when he realized it's got to be a year
Speaker 3: round thing of staying in shape whatever. There's no taking
Speaker 3: a month off after the season or of that. He
Speaker 3: told me he got up to two fifty and I said, oh,
Speaker 3: I did too, but I don't think I.
Speaker 4: Think it's a little too.
Speaker 2: Might be a little different from your I thought you
Speaker 2: get more muscle mass playing right.
Speaker 3: No, No, this was like in February one year, okay,
Speaker 3: and then he got to it and then by I
Speaker 3: was interviewing him training cam. Yeah, and so that's that's
Speaker 3: what he said. He realized, Okay, I gotta not let
Speaker 3: myself go after that.
Speaker 1: He looks pretty good out there working out.
Speaker 3: M M. Well that video, he looks pretty good. I
Speaker 3: mean two o five apparently.
Speaker 1: He seems to be doing all the field work stuff,
Speaker 1: moving around every day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he always started training camp. He always looks
Speaker 3: like he's in great shape.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But but to lose that much.
Speaker 2: Muscle mass and just you know, pounds period, Man, what
Speaker 2: do you think that's that's a lot now when it
Speaker 2: comes to playing quarterback, no matter.
Speaker 4: How big he is.
Speaker 2: But based on the injuries that he's had already, oh
Speaker 2: what ever, he's just don't try to break any tackles.
Speaker 2: You know, his losing weight should not have anything to
Speaker 2: do with how strong he's trying to be, because at
Speaker 2: this point elusive, he needs to be elusive, and he
Speaker 2: needs to be smart. And when he's trying to be evasive,
Speaker 2: because you can't break any tackles like you used to.
Speaker 2: That's how you broke your leg the first time against
Speaker 2: the Giants. You're trying to stiff on the guy and
Speaker 2: he does the hip drop on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't need any Walter Hyton bread.
Speaker 2: When someone gets within two yards of you, just drop.
Speaker 2: That's it, that's it, and you can be that two
Speaker 2: o five.
Speaker 1: Gotta practice dropping.
Speaker 2: Practice knowing the danger zone, right, That's what he needs
Speaker 2: to know what his danger zone is.
Speaker 3: Absolutely so, so it looks to be in good shape.
Speaker 3: The big news going on right now is the fact
Speaker 3: that the NFL Owners Meeting has begun in Palm Beach
Speaker 3: over the weekends Sunday. Stephen Jones talked to the mea yesterday.
Speaker 3: Brian shot Enheimer is scheduled to speak bright and early
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1: I understand, can we get that live.
Speaker 3: Media, the coach the NFL, the NFL rotate the coaches through.
Speaker 3: The NFL has perfected this in the off season, okay,
Speaker 3: where they stay in the narrative throughout the off season. Okay.
Speaker 3: Now with the Super Bowl getting pushed back until Valentine's
Speaker 3: Day basically, and then two weeks later at the combine,
Speaker 3: then you get all the coaches that are there and
Speaker 3: gms who are talking to the media, and then free
Speaker 3: agency starts two weeks later, and now two weeks later,
Speaker 3: here we are the end of March and everybody has
Speaker 3: to talk to the media. There's a signed times where
Speaker 3: the coaches talk or you catch them on the side
Speaker 3: at Palm Beach and the meetings, the media does and
Speaker 3: so it keeps it keeps everything in the news whatever
Speaker 3: and then here we are. Three weeks from now, we'll
Speaker 3: have the draft, and then after that it'll be OTA's
Speaker 3: in mini camp whatever they it just stay. He's in
Speaker 3: the narrative looking at network. What's the question, what coaches
Speaker 3: do you want to hear from today at the NFL
Speaker 3: annual meeting? There you go, okay, well we're going to
Speaker 3: hear from Shot and I or tomorrow.
Speaker 1: What do you want to know? I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: he's going to say.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to conduct a prescott. How's Dak look?
Speaker 3: I already's down to two hundred and five.
Speaker 1: Pounds here working hard every day, and we just got
Speaker 1: to be careful that he doesn't try to do too
Speaker 1: much too soon.
Speaker 3: Is it next week they can start?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: I believe so.
Speaker 3: The actual uh when you have a new head coach
Speaker 3: used to be you could start a week early. Now
Speaker 3: it's two weeks early on the off season program, and
Speaker 3: so it would be next week is when the Cowboys
Speaker 3: can officially start their off season program and they can
Speaker 3: actually officially contact these players, bump into them, at.
Speaker 1: Least the strength and conditioning coaches. They can start like
Speaker 1: team workouts.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, And of course as far as the Cowboys
Speaker 3: are concerned. One of the first questions asked if Steven
Speaker 3: Jones yesterday is any progress on the Micah contract negotiations.
Speaker 1: And his answer was, we have visited with Micah Jerry
Speaker 1: and I have and feel good about what we've talked
Speaker 1: about so far. Some guys want to visit, some guys
Speaker 1: don't want to visit. About their money, we respect it.
Speaker 1: If players want to come in and talk. Michah likes
Speaker 1: to visit, so that's a good thing. Who said that,
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones? Okay, So look, everybody's so worried about we
Speaker 1: got to get it done. Gotta get it done. It's
Speaker 1: like he hasn't been here the last two maybe three
Speaker 1: off seasons for the off season and workouts, and he
Speaker 1: still got fifty two and a half sex. So I
Speaker 1: don't know that that's the priority. And the one thing
Speaker 1: that people don't understand is you can say this is
Speaker 1: what he's got to be paid, right, well, he's got
Speaker 1: to agree to that. You know, just because you throw
Speaker 1: a number out doesn't mean he's not throwing a bigger
Speaker 1: number out. And the other thing is guaranteed money. You know,
Speaker 1: the player and his agent want would love the whole
Speaker 1: thing guaranteed, right, and let me tell you about guaranteed
Speaker 1: money and all this BS talk about the Cowboys trading
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Go ahead and trade him to day. You
Speaker 1: know what the dead money is? One hundred and ninety million,
Speaker 1: one hundred ninety.
Speaker 3: How does that even get into at all?
Speaker 1: Because somebody needs attention, that's the off season. Why are
Speaker 1: they hate it? Because everybody wants to throw mashed potatoes
Speaker 1: on the wall and see if something sticks.
Speaker 2: I would imagine with you being Italian, you would have
Speaker 2: said pasta pasta?
Speaker 4: Did you go mass potatoes? Well, because of the region, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Over cooked pasta doesn't stick.
Speaker 3: Why would anyone want to throw mashed potatoes to get
Speaker 3: the wall to see if it sticks.
Speaker 1: It's a kind of a example of throwing bad information
Speaker 1: up there. And maybe I'd get lucky and it's right.
Speaker 2: Hey, maybe if you throw mashed potatoes up against the wall,
Speaker 2: they might from the face of Jesus or something.
Speaker 3: Artwork.
Speaker 4: Right here we go? All right?
Speaker 3: What else?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Has caught your ear?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 3: The tush push is a big topic of conversation at
Speaker 3: the meeting that will likely have a boat tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Sounds like the Competition Committee is in favor of banning it.
Speaker 4: Yep. I think it's unfair. I really do.
Speaker 1: Well, let's look at this way. It's not just a
Speaker 1: push push. It's a running back running for five yards
Speaker 1: and then five offensive linemen pushing them another ten. That
Speaker 1: should be banned. Well, all this pushing. They don't allow
Speaker 1: the defense to push.
Speaker 2: I would say, if you could take that element out
Speaker 2: of it, I would still allow them to do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a quarterback snake without It's just
Speaker 2: a quarterback snake without the backs.
Speaker 4: Coming to push. So is that that's all they're trying
Speaker 4: to ban is I think the way it's worded for
Speaker 4: the running back.
Speaker 3: To push specifically. I think it's specifically worded for the
Speaker 3: quarterback snake where you can't have someone under lineup under
Speaker 3: center and have someone come up from behind and push
Speaker 3: them forward. I think that is what the way the packers.
Speaker 1: Get rid of the other pushing too, because you got
Speaker 1: lineman Australian rules, you.
Speaker 2: Got a lineman pushing running back into the end zone,
Speaker 2: so they're gonna stop that as well.
Speaker 3: Or you grab them and throw them into the engine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or they tug them.
Speaker 3: I mean, why did they start allowing it in the
Speaker 3: first place.
Speaker 1: I have no idea because it used to be against.
Speaker 4: The room, used to be against the rule. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of exciting, you know, because it gives
Speaker 2: the offensive lineman a chance to have some energy, right
Speaker 2: They you know, participate in it down the field, you know,
Speaker 2: showing their determination to make sure that we finish our
Speaker 2: goal and taking across the goal line. I think that's
Speaker 2: why they like that, they show that intensity from the
Speaker 2: offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not just the goal line is the
Speaker 1: fifty yard line and everybody gets excited to start.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's.
Speaker 1: Still going when he's getting pushed. That's not the play.
Speaker 1: You know, design a play. Okay, we're gonna let hand
Speaker 1: off and now everybody get behind the running back and
Speaker 1: let's push them ten.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to and I don't know how
Speaker 2: they're trying to frame it, but if they're gonna change it,
Speaker 2: then they will make a distinction when down the field
Speaker 2: versus you.
Speaker 4: Know how you shot, you audit your goal line play.
Speaker 3: You know how you can get rid of it, Run
Speaker 3: it and ever play. Get a team, the worst team
Speaker 3: in the league or whatever. Okay, you're you run it
Speaker 3: every single play and they'll get rid of it.
Speaker 1: Well, what happened at the goal line?
Speaker 3: In the work though, every single place. I mean, you've
Speaker 3: got a bunch up and then all of a sudden
Speaker 3: you pitch it to a back.
Speaker 4: And not free. Now we're talking just rugby exactly.
Speaker 3: So that's why you would get rid of it if
Speaker 3: it becomes a regular part of an offensive game plan. Well,
Speaker 3: what happened I'm exaggerated saying every other every play, but
Speaker 3: some team could do it on a regular basis, And.
Speaker 1: Well didn't it happen on the goal line? And in
Speaker 1: the playoff game? Who jumped off sides? Like game was
Speaker 1: a Detroit? It was, yeah, remember, And and they finally
Speaker 1: hockily said, if you do it again, it's touched down. Well,
Speaker 1: they were just going to to say, okay, the ball's
Speaker 1: at the one. If I try to time it and
Speaker 1: I jump off side, now it's at the half. And
Speaker 1: then if I do it again, it's at the quarter.
Speaker 1: And now it's gone as far as it can go.
Speaker 1: And I keep jumping off side because I'm trying to
Speaker 1: time it to disrupt the snap. And finally it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you do it one more time, and it's a touchdown.
Speaker 1: How many times I'd do it?
Speaker 4: One more time?
Speaker 1: I would have What if you're at the fifty yard
Speaker 1: line and they just keep doing it, jumping off sides right,
Speaker 1: and just keeps moving and moving and moving.
Speaker 3: Is it the rams? I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who meant it.
Speaker 3: But the reason I said the rams because Sean McVay
Speaker 3: is one of them. And Sean McDermott is also vocal
Speaker 3: about getting rid of it, and his team use it,
Speaker 3: employs it, but he would like to get rid of it.
Speaker 3: So do you see McVeigh is against it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see what Sirianni said. He goes, I've got
Speaker 1: three former offensive coordinators that have got head coaching jobs
Speaker 1: because they use that. I better get those three votes
Speaker 1: and ours.
Speaker 3: That's four against, and they get and all they need
Speaker 3: is nine I get it takes twenty four to vote
Speaker 3: brit it out right, So so he's halfway.
Speaker 4: There, right.
Speaker 1: Any of the other rule changes proposals you like or don't.
Speaker 3: Like, I do like on the kickoff rule to have
Speaker 3: a touchback come out to the thirty five and yes,
Speaker 3: the thirty.
Speaker 1: Good for that. How about both teams during the regular
Speaker 1: season getting an overtime possession.
Speaker 3: I have no problem at all playing overtime. I think
Speaker 3: the overtime should not be a ten minute quarter. It
Speaker 3: should be fifteen minutes. Yeah, and I think that's that's
Speaker 3: the that's what you're getting at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and both teams should get a possessions regardless of
Speaker 1: what happens. Yeah. Not I come down and score in
Speaker 1: the games over a touchdown?
Speaker 4: You like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, Oh, I don't have a problem. But no,
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with one. If you score
Speaker 3: a touchdown games over. But I do think that it
Speaker 3: needs to be a fifteen minute and not a ten
Speaker 3: minute because you can have a drive that takes up
Speaker 3: ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Everson would be for this eliminating automatic first down on
Speaker 1: defensive holding or illegal contact five yard tunnel leader, right,
Speaker 1: but they automatically get her first down. I always thought
Speaker 1: that was unfair.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm so accustomed to it that you know,
Speaker 2: you don't even think me the changes, yell't even think
Speaker 2: about it. But that would be a great advantage for
Speaker 2: a defensive back because you know, we're strategic on whin
Speaker 2: we hold, right, you know, if a guy's about to
Speaker 2: score a touchdown on you and will their twenty yard line,
Speaker 2: that's going to be an eighty yard touchdown. And he
Speaker 2: if he's got me by at the thirty yard line,
Speaker 2: and I know he's going to go past me, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take that grab. I'm gonna take that grab,
Speaker 2: and I'll take the five yard holding. But if you're
Speaker 2: talking about at the end of a game and you
Speaker 2: know the guy's just kind of throwing it up, just
Speaker 2: hoping something happens because the offense is behind, and then
Speaker 2: I held him, but then they you know, if I
Speaker 2: hold him and it's say third and twenty five and
Speaker 2: I hold him, I don't want him to get the
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 4: Right, I don't want him to get that.
Speaker 1: Well, don't you think most most penalties are not because
Speaker 1: guys don't know what they're doing, right, They're getting their
Speaker 1: ass beating. Yeah, and it's like I better grab on,
Speaker 1: I better grab on this offensive tackle. I'm giving up
Speaker 1: a sack. Okay, I'm gonna hold.
Speaker 2: And especially if I'm on the blind side, I know
Speaker 2: I can't give up a sack because that might end
Speaker 2: up being a fumble and then even a touchdown. So yeah,
Speaker 2: you could be very strategic as a defensive bag. Now
Speaker 2: make that hold now, and they still it's instead of
Speaker 2: being it first down, now it's going to be fourth
Speaker 2: down and twenty.
Speaker 1: What about extending the replay assist? And I'm for that, Like,
Speaker 1: let the automatic guy call down and say, oh wait,
Speaker 1: you screwed up.
Speaker 3: How much time you've applied for that position?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Right, yes, I was going to bring in my white hat.
Speaker 4: Right, how much How much time do you get for that? Though?
Speaker 4: What do you mean just in regards to you know,
Speaker 4: replaces replace.
Speaker 3: The way it's benefited it's it's done in real time
Speaker 3: where it happens quickly. They don't even have to go
Speaker 3: to anything half quick. And that's the way they've been
Speaker 3: using it, and it's been a great addition to it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: talking about it, expanding it in what way to other
Speaker 3: call include more calls?
Speaker 1: I think maybe the fifteen yard ones or ten yard ones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let them buzz down. No, you didn't get that right
Speaker 1: or busy?
Speaker 4: They got to get it quick though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's been quick and it's really.
Speaker 4: Helped now if they're using it more now because.
Speaker 1: You can see more, right, you can see upstairs better
Speaker 1: than you can see on the field. Because if you've
Speaker 1: ever watched the game from the sideline, can't see, especially
Speaker 1: like on the goal line. I remember the first time
Speaker 1: I was down there doing those preseason games and I'm
Speaker 1: standing behind the referee at the goal line and you
Speaker 1: lose the ball. You can't see.
Speaker 4: That's where it's going to be important.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, you got to use the chip, just the
Speaker 1: way techs said they should do it back in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1: Get a chip in the ball and let it see.
Speaker 3: If they had chips back then.
Speaker 1: Well they had them somewhat devised. They weren't really using them,
Speaker 1: but there was chips back in night there was computers,
Speaker 1: right yeah, I mean, you know, look what they're doing
Speaker 1: in tennis. They don't have to call the lines. And
Speaker 1: you know when they had the tournament here, I was
Speaker 1: thinking the guy was calling the lines and I'm going
Speaker 1: he's not saying it was automatic. So when it was out,
Speaker 1: the thing went off and it goes.
Speaker 4: Fault, but it's already done, but it was done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in favor of that in baseball too.
Speaker 2: Here's where I'm in favor of it. I still recall
Speaker 2: several quarterback sneaks that did not go in our favor
Speaker 2: when Dak's entire torso across the line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where's the ball?
Speaker 4: Yeah? And they go, oh no, no, but he's he's okay.
Speaker 3: So can we get Ciscus back to the toush push.
Speaker 3: Can we put a chip in the helmet too, to
Speaker 3: see when players are off sides on the toushbush, like
Speaker 3: the offensive lineman when they line up in the neutral zone.
Speaker 3: Can we do that?
Speaker 1: I think you should be able to see that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what you should be able to see.
Speaker 3: Why where you got a first down, lose the ball?
Speaker 4: You lose the ball? Yeah, you lose the ball. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So no, I can't go with you on that one. Okay.
Speaker 2: But now when Dak is when Dak's pelvis is across
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, across the goal line, and you
Speaker 2: still don't know if we've scored a touchdown, that's where
Speaker 2: it needs to come into play real quickly, real quickly.
Speaker 1: My proposal is every twenty yards they should have a
Speaker 1: referee up on a tall ladder like they do in
Speaker 1: tennis or volleyball, and you can see down and you'll
Speaker 1: see what's going on. Just need more officials.
Speaker 4: Why you gotta put the ladder up there. Why you
Speaker 4: just put the camera up there.
Speaker 3: You get drones. He got three.
Speaker 4: He will put the person on the ladder.
Speaker 3: Mickey wants to sit there speaking.
Speaker 4: That's just a sign.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the last week, there was a window washer
Speaker 1: across the street in one of those high rise and
Speaker 1: he fell at the rushing to the hospital. You know
Speaker 1: what else happened last week?
Speaker 3: I was thinking it was ane.
Speaker 1: Oh they had because there was other guys and they
Speaker 1: had a police had a drone to see where if
Speaker 1: there was anybody else. I saw the guy operating it.
Speaker 1: And then on Friday, somebody and I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was a medical emergency or what was going across
Speaker 1: the street across from the pro shop.
Speaker 4: The g wagon. It was a jeep, Yeah, it was
Speaker 4: a g wagon. It ran into like six or seven cars.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you heard about it.
Speaker 4: I saw well. I saw the aftermath. I was.
Speaker 1: I was there when they were trying to write everything.
Speaker 4: What the heck happened? Oh glad you brought this up,
Speaker 4: because now listen at the start.
Speaker 1: At the Star, some guy was working out at the
Speaker 1: Cowboys fit and told me he saw the car. He
Speaker 1: was looking out the window and the guy didn't stop
Speaker 1: at the stop sign there, or he accelerated where Connie
Speaker 1: Rosso is and he accelerated. He said, the guy had
Speaker 1: to be going sixty miles an hour and he hit
Speaker 1: the curb.
Speaker 4: On the wrong hit like six or seven cars and
Speaker 4: it flew up.
Speaker 1: In the air and hit seven cars. Wow, And it
Speaker 1: ended up tipped over because the top when I saw it,
Speaker 1: at the top of the jeep was all crushed in
Speaker 1: And I said, well, how did that happen? And he
Speaker 1: walked out of it and he didn't hit any I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't know person got hit, but seven cars were they?
Speaker 1: So he walked away right, Yeah, he got out. Guy
Speaker 1: said he got out and had his hands on the side.
Speaker 4: I thought maybe he had an episode.
Speaker 1: Oh hit something, that's what they thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything of fishing. But it stopped down
Speaker 1: things for about an hour out there.
Speaker 4: So that's the things that you missed, I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, it was very exciting a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Picky had an eventful week, and we'll get to more
Speaker 3: of it in a moment down to Austin. Yeah, ut
Speaker 3: Pro Day and we'll hear stories from UT pro Day
Speaker 3: in a moment. Plus Stephen Jones says, we are not
Speaker 3: done yet in free agency? What might the Cowboys do
Speaker 3: yet in free agency? When mix shots continues in a.
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Speaker 3: Right, very good. There is a quarterback that is off
Speaker 3: the market this morning, as the Cowboys still are in
Speaker 3: need of a backup quarterback to go along with Will
Speaker 3: Greer behind Dak Prescott. Sam Ellinger, the former Texas longhorn,
Speaker 3: has signed with the Denver Broncos. So Sean b was
Speaker 3: with the Colts. It was with the Colts the first
Speaker 3: four years of his career, and now he is a
Speaker 3: Denver Bronco. That's the breaking news this morning. The news
Speaker 3: has been few and far between here lately in free agency.
Speaker 1: So how much did Eldinger actually play.
Speaker 3: He got into I'll look it up here. The last
Speaker 3: couple of years he has not gotten on the field,
Speaker 3: but he actually played some maybe his rookie year. Let
Speaker 3: me look it up here. I actually like him as
Speaker 3: a prospect, as a you know, back of the back back, yeah,
Speaker 3: back up quarterback prospect. And I thought that the Cowboys
Speaker 3: might have some interest just because of the fact that
Speaker 3: their new offensive coordinator slash offensive line coach has some
Speaker 3: history with him in Indianapolis. You know knows what kind
Speaker 3: of guy. Yes, in his second year in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: he started three games and had a sizzling oh to
Speaker 3: three record at the Colts.
Speaker 2: See, I know they had they've had at quarterback for
Speaker 2: the Colts, and I thought All would be a little
Speaker 2: bit better as a quarterback.
Speaker 3: I really thought he really didn't get an opportunity. He's
Speaker 3: showed something in preseason games and but the last couple
Speaker 3: of years has not gotten on the field.
Speaker 4: And the Colts have had many opportunities.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, to move I.
Speaker 1: Need somebody that has started games. I don't even care
Speaker 1: if they've won or lost. It just started games. Because
Speaker 1: when you're a backup quarterback ever since you know this,
Speaker 1: you don't even get the practice once the season starts.
Speaker 1: So there's none of this, well he's gonna get better. No,
Speaker 1: you're gonna sit there and watch and they're going to
Speaker 1: tell you, oh, you've got to go in and play.
Speaker 1: The quarterback just got hurt and you haven't taken a
Speaker 1: snap in practice all week unless it's the practice the
Speaker 1: practice squad.
Speaker 3: So anyway, Ellinger goes to Denver where Jared Stidham is
Speaker 3: the backup to bow Nicks, so that's a good spot
Speaker 3: for him.
Speaker 1: So maybe produce or growing.
Speaker 3: With Sean Payton and so forth.
Speaker 1: And that's what the Cowboys, and I think Steven answered it.
Speaker 1: It's like they're not done yet, and I'm assuming that's
Speaker 1: the position they're not done with. They need a backup
Speaker 1: quarterback that has.
Speaker 3: Sae will Will Greer's been in that position in his career.
Speaker 3: He's never had an opportunity to go play in a game,
Speaker 3: so he's not outside of pre season games. And so
Speaker 3: if Ellinger were to come here, it would be for
Speaker 3: the Greer spot. Okay, right, you have to have a
Speaker 3: second guy who is who has or you drafted starting experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah you yeah, I mean think about that.
Speaker 1: It's the same philosophy they had when they drafted Dak.
Speaker 1: It's like, here's a young guy which can grow and
Speaker 1: maybe be my backup of the.
Speaker 3: Which brings us to your visit to Austin last week,
Speaker 3: yes day, and so what do you see down there?
Speaker 1: Well, let's start with quinn Ewers. And I was thoroughly
Speaker 1: impressed with his performance. I think when you watch on TV,
Speaker 1: it's hard to judge the speed of the past.
Speaker 3: He's got zip on the ball, and that's what that's
Speaker 3: one of my concerns watching him last year. He seemed
Speaker 3: to be a soft tosser.
Speaker 1: Exactly, and that's what I thought, and as I.
Speaker 3: But I've seen him going back to high school and
Speaker 3: he wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: And I said, and because you know why.
Speaker 2: When he's on and he's really connecting, well, then he
Speaker 2: has some zip on the ball.
Speaker 1: He played through that torn obleak muscle and it was
Speaker 1: worse than I think Texas led on to believe. And
Speaker 1: when I'm standing on the sideline watching him throw short
Speaker 1: mid range and somewhat like deep outs or whatever. That
Speaker 1: ball was humming. Yeah, and I'm accurately too, by the way.
Speaker 1: So he ended up completing fifty or fifty nine passes.
Speaker 1: He had four drops and five you would call incompletion, okay,
Speaker 1: And at least two or three of those incompletions were
Speaker 1: towards the end of a fifty nine throw session that
Speaker 1: he was throwing go routes and he floated him a
Speaker 1: little bit too high. But other than that, boy, he
Speaker 1: was right on and it would there was no break.
Speaker 1: It was passed after pass after pass, and there were times.
Speaker 2: His talent is not about throwing hard, it's about throwing
Speaker 2: in a timely fashion and smart. Yes, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: He knows when to throw it. It's not going to
Speaker 2: be one of.
Speaker 4: Those bbis in the dark as they always talk about. Now.
Speaker 2: He knows when to throw it. That's why he never
Speaker 2: used as much arm strength.
Speaker 1: Well, he was using it in this. Now again, you're
Speaker 1: throwing against air right right, he was. He was directing
Speaker 1: the wide receivers when they were going to run a
Speaker 1: route and they weren't lined up right, he moved them.
Speaker 1: And I thought he had a heck of a workout,
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know that he'll ever be
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in the NFL, but I.
Speaker 4: Think I think he can.
Speaker 1: He's good enough to take a chance on. Let him
Speaker 1: sit a.
Speaker 4: Year or two better than half of them all.
Speaker 1: I had somebody tell me, he goes. You don't think
Speaker 1: he's better than what's the guy's name is A Jackson Dart. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: at Ole Miss he goes. It's every bit as good
Speaker 1: as that guy.
Speaker 3: That's what I don't understand about this whole process. I mean,
Speaker 3: and I see the talent cam Ward has and I
Speaker 3: love And cam Ward's thrown a lot of passes in
Speaker 3: college too, I mean, and that's another thing. He's been
Speaker 3: playing for five years in college. In fact, I added
Speaker 3: it up last week. Cam Ward he if you count
Speaker 3: his time, he was two years at Incarnate Ward, two
Speaker 3: years at Washington State, and one year at Miami. Now
Speaker 3: you can talk about the level of competition at Incarnate Word,
Speaker 3: but that's still you're in an offense for the same
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator or a head coach that was his offensive
Speaker 3: coordinator Washington State. He's thrown twenty four hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: nine passes in college. That's what kind of experience he
Speaker 3: has coming in for eighteen thousand yards one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty seven touchdowns. Shdor sanders along those same lines in
Speaker 3: four years, first at Jackson State two years and then
Speaker 3: at Colorado for two years. He's got eighteen hundred pass
Speaker 3: attempts and one hundred and thirty four touchdowns. Jackson Dart
Speaker 3: thirteen hundred pass attempts. Quinn Yours is at eleven hundred
Speaker 3: or so. Whereas Quinn. So, what was your point that
Speaker 3: you were going to make.
Speaker 1: My point was I was impressed, and I was, he's
Speaker 1: got it with the zip on the ball and his accuracy.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're throwing against air or whatever.
Speaker 1: When you got to throw the quick out to a
Speaker 1: running back that's on the move, he hit him and
Speaker 1: his ball was catchable too. So I was, I tell you,
Speaker 1: thoroughly impressed with him.
Speaker 3: And I have some inside knowledge that a team that
Speaker 3: is very interested in Quinn yours is the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1: And Kellen Moore, Yeah, I'm sure Kellen Morrison. Kellen was there, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kellen was there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn was there, which a matter of fact, I
Speaker 1: got a chance to talk with him.
Speaker 3: For a while.
Speaker 1: He's great. He's still one of my favorite guys. H
Speaker 1: He thanked me for saying hi to him, you know, so,
Speaker 1: and what was he here? Was he here two years one.
Speaker 3: Years when Parcels got here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Maybe, but anyway, Yeah, there were five head coaches there.
Speaker 1: Tomlin was there. He didn't attend the pro day, but
Speaker 1: I was totally did interviews the day before.
Speaker 3: Okay, saw and by the way, to wrap up on yours,
Speaker 3: I think that he will be a I think he'll
Speaker 3: be a second round pick, and he could even uh
Speaker 3: if a team really likes him, could take him late
Speaker 3: first round. Yeah, that's my opinion.
Speaker 4: It could be.
Speaker 3: Now we'll see where the quarterbacks go, and you know
Speaker 3: a lot of times it's wherever the run is on quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: And if only.
Speaker 3: Cam war goes early and teams wait until the second round,
Speaker 3: he could slide. But I think he's in that same
Speaker 3: mix myself.
Speaker 2: I look at I look at what quarterbacks are doing
Speaker 2: to really up their game, uh huh, and I think
Speaker 2: he should be doing something to up his game to
Speaker 2: make himself even better, even sharper, someone that can really he's.
Speaker 3: Been meeting with McCarthy, Mike McCarthy's been working okay.
Speaker 1: And and so yeah, and he's got uh, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will bring him in for the Dallas Day. So because
Speaker 1: you don't there's no limit on how many times you
Speaker 1: can bring those guys in. So since he was at
Speaker 1: South of Lake Carol, he can.
Speaker 3: Be qualifies for the Dallas Day. They may have men
Speaker 3: separate than that, and they might talk to his dad.
Speaker 3: And I was unclear whether and I think his dad
Speaker 3: was unclear. He's not not understanding, you know what Dallas
Speaker 3: Day is. But my understanding is he is going to
Speaker 3: have a workout with the cowboys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think according to his dad, I think
Speaker 1: it's you know, depending on where he goes. You know,
Speaker 1: they get to the third round and he's still there.
Speaker 1: Think about it, because you don't have a fourth you know,
Speaker 1: somebody will say, wow, you took him with round two. Soon,
Speaker 1: Well I don't have that brown So if I want him,
Speaker 1: I got to take.
Speaker 4: Them all right.
Speaker 3: So tell me about the other guys. You so hot
Speaker 3: on this. Matthew Golden, is he good?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you between him and Bond, those.
Speaker 3: Guys Isaiah Bond ran a four two.
Speaker 1: Nine great routes. Yeah, and Golden stayed on his combine time,
Speaker 1: which was four two nine.
Speaker 3: That's smart. That shows that he is a smart player too.
Speaker 1: Bond ran the forty because he didn't run what he
Speaker 1: wanted to at the combine. I think he ran a
Speaker 1: four to three four h during the pro day.
Speaker 3: I like that because that showed competitive spirit. He wanted
Speaker 3: to beat his teammates for two nine exactly.
Speaker 1: And their route running was impeccable.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: They catch the ball, use their hands to snatch it,
Speaker 1: none of this body grabbing. I'll tell you the other guy,
Speaker 1: and my understanding is he sometimes had ball control problems.
Speaker 1: The running back Blue Now this guy, now he ran
Speaker 1: the sub three four three forty. Uh and boy, he's
Speaker 1: he's got good hands catching the ball out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: They worked the running backs, the tight ends, the wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Oh and speaking of the tight ends, this helm guy,
Speaker 1: Oh my, he's six seven, but he runs really well.
Speaker 1: And you know how they they tight end at.
Speaker 9: Texas gunner Hell okay, and uh, you know they were
Speaker 9: practicing that that seam route where you know you're down
Speaker 9: the seamen and the ball is going to be thrown
Speaker 9: over the linebacker.
Speaker 1: You got to be able to snatch it without you know,
Speaker 1: the balls in the air already. He was pretty impressive too.
Speaker 1: And evidently at the combine, first step on the forty
Speaker 1: he pulled a groin muscle or a hammy or something,
Speaker 1: and so his time wasn't very good because he finished it.
Speaker 1: He didn't stop, okay, and that's why he ran a
Speaker 1: four eight four. Yeah, but he was healthy for this
Speaker 1: pro day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, almost beat me with and that was that was.
Speaker 3: That was awfully he's now at the combine. He was
Speaker 3: only two hundred and forty one pounds sixty five one
Speaker 3: that he listed at two fifty at Texas.
Speaker 4: But ran.
Speaker 3: And like you said, he ran a four eight four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had him listed six five two fifty.
Speaker 2: If the Cowboys were smart and they're looking at the
Speaker 2: running back, that running back had better be multitalented, right,
Speaker 2: they can find a running back that can be a
Speaker 2: receiver out of the backfield.
Speaker 4: Tony Pollard, I don't think I like Tony.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about running routes. I'm not talking about screen
Speaker 2: passing things that nature. I'm talking about the ability to
Speaker 2: isolate in the slot and run a route. Those kind
Speaker 2: of running backs, they are invaluable, especially if he's because
Speaker 2: now he comes out in a certain formation. You have
Speaker 2: two running backs in the backfield, but one of those
Speaker 2: is going to be a slot receiver.
Speaker 3: Well, Pollard at Memphis played wide receiver before he was
Speaker 3: running back.
Speaker 4: Down the field.
Speaker 2: As far as you know, particular routes, we use him
Speaker 2: screen passes and flare routes and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: The backup running back before Zeke got here. Oh, I
Speaker 1: watched it the other night.
Speaker 4: I saw a.
Speaker 1: Replay of one of Tony Romo's drives and he kept
Speaker 1: dumping with number twenty five.
Speaker 3: Lance Dunbar.
Speaker 1: Dunbar. He used him on that they had like a
Speaker 1: minute thirty four to go, and Romo drove him right
Speaker 1: down the field touchdown to win and to win the game.
Speaker 1: We think it was against maybe the Giants, And he
Speaker 1: used Dunbar at least three times, just coming out of
Speaker 1: the backfield and hitting him on the run. And I
Speaker 1: was thinking, Yeah, that's what I want in my backup
Speaker 1: running back. Now, I don't know if Miles Sanders is
Speaker 1: that guy, because he sort of was in Philadelphia if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly.
Speaker 2: And I only say that because right now we are
Speaker 2: sure it as far as talented wide receivers are concerned,
Speaker 2: and if we can show some type of variation in
Speaker 2: our offense and have it to where we have players
Speaker 2: with that can play multiple positions. If you're talking about
Speaker 2: the running back who can protect the quarterback, run the ball,
Speaker 2: and play that slot receiver, that'd be great. If you're
Speaker 2: talking about the tight end that.
Speaker 4: Can do more than one thing, that can make.
Speaker 2: Up for your lack of talent at wide receiver, because
Speaker 2: now you have the defense guessing you might not have
Speaker 2: the talent, but we have the options on our offense
Speaker 2: on third down and the key situations where we need
Speaker 2: to move the chains.
Speaker 3: The game you're talking about against the Giants was a
Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty six wins in twenty fifteen, and
Speaker 3: Lance Dunbar had eight catches for seventy yards in that game.
Speaker 5: And.
Speaker 3: Later that season against Atlanta he had ten catches for
Speaker 3: one hundred yards in a game.
Speaker 1: This must have been before Rumo got hurt, right.
Speaker 3: It was, and Dunbar got hurt that year two. He
Speaker 3: was only played the first four games of the season.
Speaker 3: That was the season opener against the Giants twenty seven
Speaker 3: to twenty.
Speaker 1: Sea throwing the ball to him too much because ruma
Speaker 1: only started.
Speaker 3: I mean, think about it with Lance Dunbar that season,
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at as the third back, basically as
Speaker 3: a third down back. He had eight catches for seventy
Speaker 3: yards against the Giants. The next game it was three
Speaker 3: catches forty five yards against Philly. The third game, he
Speaker 3: had ten catches for one hundred yards against the Falcons,
Speaker 3: and then he got hurt against New Orleans after carrying
Speaker 3: the ball three times for fifty four yards. He got
Speaker 3: hurt in that game and he was out for the year.
Speaker 3: I mean, talk about having a being on the cut
Speaker 3: and that was what was his fourth year in the league,
Speaker 3: and he was on the cusp of really getting it
Speaker 3: gold right and then what a bad break? Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 3: that's lezically.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now you keep talking about lack of talent at wide receiver.
Speaker 1: So would you at twelve.
Speaker 3: And Golden is one that is being talked about now
Speaker 3: has been in that mix.
Speaker 4: This badly? Yeah? If it one's at twelve, I'll take.
Speaker 3: I saw Alvin Harper was taking in about twelve. Ohlen
Speaker 3: was eleven or twelve.
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Speaker 1: Steven was asked. I guess it was yesterday at the
Speaker 1: NFL meetings when he spoke to the media, asked about
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback and what they're looking for, and he said, yes,
Speaker 1: that is still an option meeting to find a veteran
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. He said, an option that we're looking at it.
Speaker 1: We can do it via trade. What can you can
Speaker 1: do it via that? And we'll see what's available out there.
Speaker 1: Trade is one of them, and certainly signing available guys
Speaker 1: is another one of them. I think when we look
Speaker 1: for the full package, you're probably not going to get
Speaker 1: all things just right or exactly what you want, But
Speaker 1: at the same time, you want to get the very
Speaker 1: best guy that we think gives us the best chance
Speaker 1: to go out and compete with Will Greer and be
Speaker 1: good in that room with Dak and Greer and who
Speaker 1: everhere else we add, so uh there and from what
Speaker 1: I'm told, they're still looking for a veteran backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: So interesting. They talked about trade too, which you probably
Speaker 1: can do that with a future pick like down the
Speaker 1: road and maybe not a pick from this ar next
Speaker 1: year's fourth Yeah, yeah, right, since we have a habit
Speaker 1: of giving a giving away, but trading away fourth round
Speaker 1: picks for what Trey Lance, who's still out.
Speaker 3: There and then who's now Canadian Football League might be
Speaker 3: an option where Ti Lance? Yeah, all right, you had
Speaker 3: you did research, yes, past drafts, so what are you
Speaker 3: getting at and what you what?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: What I was trying to mention is when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have drafted in the first round one through seventeen, they've print.
Speaker 3: Picked seventeen because Emmett was seventeen.
Speaker 1: That's right, and so was Kevin Smith by the way, Okay,
Speaker 1: Pop and.
Speaker 3: CD lamb, yeah's right.
Speaker 1: So they hit on.
Speaker 3: So don't trade if you're going to trade down, don't
Speaker 3: trade down any farther than seventeen. In fact, you may
Speaker 3: want to just go to seventeen. Just go right away.
Speaker 3: Let me just see who picked seventeenth and it is Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: so you get on the phone with Cincinnati and trade
Speaker 3: down to seventeen.
Speaker 1: Although at eighteen in nineteen seventy five, Thomas eventually Hollywood Henderson,
Speaker 1: also Bobby Carpenter and Mike Charad who unfortunately.
Speaker 3: Go seventeen broken legs seventeen.
Speaker 1: But they've had they've had like a hundred who's that
Speaker 1: broken broken leg? Yeah, it was in training camp his
Speaker 1: rookie rookie year, second year. Don't get sidetracked, ye anyway,
Speaker 1: So anyway, you realize they've only had three three number
Speaker 1: one picks in their history.
Speaker 3: Three number one overall picks. Yes, Troy Eggman, Russell Maryland
Speaker 3: too tall, Yep, that's right.
Speaker 1: Seventy four Dorset was a second, that's right, and they
Speaker 1: only had two seconds Dorset and Randy White No. Number three,
Speaker 1: number four, Zeke and the infamous Scott.
Speaker 3: Appleton Texas Texas.
Speaker 1: Longhorn ended up playing AFL right, I think so number five, uh,
Speaker 1: Terrence Newman, john Nyland and Craig Morton, Number six Leroy
Speaker 1: Jordan and Morris Claiborne, which was one of the thing.
Speaker 3: That was trade up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he never stayed healthy. You know, uh,
Speaker 1: no numbers seven, number eight, Roy Williams and Greg Ellis
Speaker 1: number nine only once, Tyron Smith, No. Ten, eleven, DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Ware and Michael Irvin.
Speaker 3: How about that, So you may want to trade up
Speaker 3: from twelve to eleven, that would be good.
Speaker 1: Number twelve, Danny Noonan, Elvin Harper, Micah Parsons. Well they
Speaker 1: outlawed his strength, outlaw the outlaw chemicals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was Samson. They cut there.
Speaker 1: Number thirteen only once at number thirteen. And this one's
Speaker 1: a little misleading. It was Bob Lily because there was
Speaker 1: only fourteen picks in the first round. They had traded
Speaker 1: their first round pick in sixty one for Eddie leberon No.
Speaker 1: Fourteen or fifteen sixteen, Zach Martin, and then we talked
Speaker 1: about seventeen. They pretty good. So among all these guys,
Speaker 1: one hundred pro balls when they were drafted before number twenty.
Speaker 1: So then things get a little sketchy, But think about it. Normally,
Speaker 1: there's what fifteen to seventeen guys in the draft that
Speaker 1: have first round grades, so after seventeen you're probably drafting
Speaker 1: a second round pick. So anyway, everybody's so worried about
Speaker 1: what they're going to do. They've done pretty well when
Speaker 1: they drafted at the top of the draft, and you
Speaker 1: don't have to go into the twenties and take Chante Carvers.
Speaker 3: Okay, you mentioned Mo Claiborne, yes, number six, and that
Speaker 3: was in twenty twelve. The Cowboys traded up from fourteen
Speaker 3: to six with Saint Louis and they gave up their
Speaker 3: second round pick, number forty five overall, along with their
Speaker 3: first round pick, number fourteen, to get Clayborne, and what
Speaker 3: the Rams got at fourteen was Michael brock And then
Speaker 3: I think the Rams traded their second round pick forty five,
Speaker 3: but the Cowboys had they stayed at fourteen that year,
Speaker 3: Michael Brockers would have been a good fit on the
Speaker 3: Cowboys on the defensive line. And at forty five they
Speaker 3: could have had Bobby Wagner who went forty seven to Seattle,
Speaker 3: who's still playing right, who's still playing thirteen years later.
Speaker 3: So sometimes it is not the best move to move
Speaker 3: up to get that guy, which brings me to a
Speaker 3: guy that teams might actually spend a lot of draft
Speaker 3: capital to move up for in this draft, and that
Speaker 3: would be the Heisman Trophy winner out of Colorado. You
Speaker 3: could be getting not one, but two players in Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3: He's a cornerback and he's a wide receiver. In twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one, the San Francisco forty nine had the twelfth
Speaker 3: pick in the draft, which is where the Cowboys pick
Speaker 3: this year, and they traded up to number three to
Speaker 3: take Trey Lance. They gave up as we look at
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter here, they gave up three first round draft
Speaker 3: picks and a third round pick. It was like, and
Speaker 3: I don't even count the draft pick that year because
Speaker 3: you're getting the first rounder, okay, that you're just exchanging slots.
Speaker 3: Moved up nine spots, right, Okay, So they gave up
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty two first round pick in the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three first round pick, which in San Francisco's mind,
Speaker 3: they have a really good team. It didn't matter whether
Speaker 3: Trey Lance was going to pan out or not, which
Speaker 3: he didn't. There was going to be a late first
Speaker 3: round pick, okay, and then a third round pick. Two.
Speaker 3: What a team give up that kind of capital to
Speaker 3: move up to get a Travis Hunter when you consider
Speaker 3: the fact you could be getting two players for the
Speaker 3: price of one one.
Speaker 1: Eventually, probably not as a rookie.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, you could play him a
Speaker 3: little bit both ways if you wanted. What do you think,
Speaker 3: ever soon about Travis Hunter's abilities, whether he's best suited
Speaker 3: for corner or receiver, what do you think?
Speaker 2: Well, they don't even know how to label this guy
Speaker 2: first of all, and wide receiver and defensive back. They're
Speaker 2: still they compared to Stefan Diggs as wide receiver, and
Speaker 2: they compare them to Trayvon Diggs as a cornerback.
Speaker 4: That's funny, that's right, that's crazy. He's compared to both brothers.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you if Dion Sanders did not play
Speaker 3: baseball and he was just strictly a football player and
Speaker 3: he was in this draft or any draft, okay, and
Speaker 3: he has kind of a similar career to what Travis
Speaker 3: Hunter had at Colorado, or he played some offense too,
Speaker 3: if he was drafted. If Dion was drafted just as
Speaker 3: a white or just played wide receiver and not cornerback
Speaker 3: in the NFL, what kind of career would he get?
Speaker 4: No, Okay, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I'm not as impressed with Dion at wide receiver because he's,
Speaker 2: you know, lack of a better term, one trick pony
Speaker 2: in regards to his speed.
Speaker 3: At I'm talking about if he had trained as a
Speaker 3: wide receiver, he's just full time wide receiver.
Speaker 4: I don't know how.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he would be in that regard,
Speaker 2: but I do know that if I'm looking at Travis Hunter,
Speaker 2: I don't see a cornerback, any cornerback in the draft
Speaker 2: as good as Dion Sanders was right.
Speaker 3: But so my question I'm looking at.
Speaker 2: If I'm looking at Travis Hunter as a wide receiver,
Speaker 2: I think Travis Hunter is a better wide receiver than
Speaker 2: Dion as a wide receiver. As a defensive back, nobody's
Speaker 2: than Dion said.
Speaker 3: So if Dion were let's say, Dion, we're in this
Speaker 3: draft and you had a need for a playmaking cornerback,
Speaker 3: shut down corner, whatever, what would you give up to
Speaker 3: move from twelve to say two or three in order
Speaker 3: to get Dion Sanders.
Speaker 4: I'll give up a first around them.
Speaker 3: So you would give up next year's first round picks. Switch.
Speaker 3: You would not do what San Francisco did, which was
Speaker 3: to get Trey Lance. They gave up the next two
Speaker 3: first round draft picks twenty okay and a third which
Speaker 3: and they seem to survive it pretty well.
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, speaking of Dion, when they had
Speaker 1: the big twelve Pro Day here, my buddy David Smoke
Speaker 1: in Waco got an interview with shilohe Sanders and he
Speaker 1: was pretty funny.
Speaker 4: Oh, he's hilarious, Shiloh.
Speaker 1: He is on his Shiloh his day. Shilah goes, I
Speaker 1: keep hearing him always tell me that he's like four
Speaker 1: to two for breakfast, right, and he goes, I can
Speaker 1: find anything on the internet. I could not find any
Speaker 1: evidence that he ran a four to two. And he goes,
Speaker 1: and I'm so tired of hear it. It was absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 1: He goes, you can look up this, this, and this,
Speaker 1: but there's no evidence of a form.
Speaker 4: Can not find it. But you let telling he's done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all I hear.
Speaker 2: Run four two for breakfast. Yeah, run four two for breakfast.
Speaker 2: That's what he always said.
Speaker 3: And by the by the way, the Colorado Pro Day
Speaker 3: is this way. Now, Shiloh did not get invited to
Speaker 3: the Combine, right, but the Colorado Pro Day is this week,
Speaker 3: and so it's gonna be interesting to see what Shiloh runs.
Speaker 4: Is he gonna do anything now, you're talking.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, his brother Shiloh safety safety.
Speaker 4: How's he looking as far as what's his time?
Speaker 3: Well, he hadn't had one official yet because he didn't
Speaker 3: get invited to the combine. That's what I'm saying is
Speaker 3: that pro day, we'll see what Shiloh's time of time.
Speaker 3: Maybe look let me look at Ai.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but because his dad ran a four. Yeah no, no,
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 1: The interview was really good and he's yeah. I didn't
Speaker 1: expect him to be that personable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was thinking because was always talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking, oh, you know, he's Dion and
Speaker 1: then he doesn't need this stuff.
Speaker 3: That's good. Shiloh took the combine snub personally and hired
Speaker 3: official combine timers to come to Boulder to conduct his
Speaker 3: own forty yard dash test, stating, I didn't get invited
Speaker 3: to the combine, but I brought the combine to me.
Speaker 3: The apple doesn't fall far.
Speaker 4: From that doubt you got just watched the show. Watch
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 3: I can see Shiloh in the cowboy uniform.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be nice.
Speaker 3: In training camp. Can you see that? I can see
Speaker 3: it in May.
Speaker 2: The only the only problem he has is he has
Speaker 2: no regard for his own body.
Speaker 4: He will throw it in there.
Speaker 2: If you talk about his dad couldn't play uh tackle football,
Speaker 2: well his son, the son is showing that he can
Speaker 2: play tackle football.
Speaker 1: Okay. And he's a safety, not a corner.
Speaker 4: Safe, that's correct. He comes in. He brings that hat
Speaker 4: with him when he comes.
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go, all right? Anything else to close
Speaker 3: it out with. I got a mixed shot.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, well, it's too late. Yep, we're
Speaker 4: one over.
Speaker 1: Who's who's the other? The top wide receiver, the kid
Speaker 1: from Arizona.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tip McMillan, Ye, would you. I haven't watched him
Speaker 3: enough to be able to tell you. That'll be my
Speaker 3: homework assignment.
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, if a wide receiver comes here, he's got.
Speaker 2: To have that that dog in him, right, So you
Speaker 2: want to I.
Speaker 4: Don't want to.
Speaker 2: If somebody, I don't want anybody, it's gonna be he's cute,
Speaker 2: he can do that. I want Michael like a Michael Ivan,
Speaker 2: like like a dads vine And that's what I want
Speaker 2: to kind of attitude I want from whoever.
Speaker 3: That's one I want at number twelve. It's got to
Speaker 3: be and I don't care whether it's I was telling
Speaker 3: someone the other day, I don't care whether it's a
Speaker 3: wide receiver, whatever position it is, it needs to be
Speaker 3: someone with that kind of dog attitude. It's Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1: It's what that is too, receiver, running back or defensive end.
Speaker 1: Somebody that's going to change the game for me.
Speaker 3: Your offensive line's fine, second round because you're getting interior guy,
Speaker 3: you're convinced there, you're good with the.
Speaker 1: You gotta go.
Speaker 2: I want a running back that can do all things.
Speaker 2: I want someone that can do all things. He could
Speaker 2: be a game changer for this team.
Speaker 3: Okay, he wants a dog, all right, So well, okay,
Speaker 3: we'll come back with our dogs next Okay, all right?
Speaker 3: Does it for mixed shines? Have a great week. And
Speaker 3: who's gonna play in the National Championship Game next Monday?
Speaker 4: Duke yet?
Speaker 3: Duke versus who Duke plays? Houston and Auburn and Florida
Speaker 3: on the other side.
Speaker 1: I take Florida.
Speaker 4: Florida is tough.
Speaker 3: So you got Florida. We got Florida, Florida. Houston's what
Speaker 3: you got.
Speaker 2: I hope I'm wrong, but I think Duke, Okay, you
Speaker 2: think it's going to take it all.
Speaker 1: Right, Watch that defense.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's right. Defense wins championships, right, Mickey, that's true.
Speaker 3: That's another story for another day. Yes, and we'll talk
Speaker 3: about that next Monday on mix Shots, Oh Cowboys.
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