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Speaker 1: This is Mick shot streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: It is eleven a m on the final day of

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Speaker 3: the month of March, and we are inside the SWBC

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Speaker 3: Podcast Studio, a new and improved s WBC podcast studio.

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Speaker 3: As I look into my camera, right there underneath the

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Speaker 3: camera there is a video monitor. Ever since, as you

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Speaker 3: look into you, we're gonna do you have a monitor too?

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Speaker 3: And Nicky, you've got the same We've go wow, well.

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Speaker 4: They are really putting some money into this. They are.

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Speaker 4: I don't like that. I don't want to see myself.

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Speaker 2: Well it does kind of when you start talking, you

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Speaker 2: know you want to talking talking season.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we're going to do a test here to

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Speaker 3: see if if Everson now starts looking at his camera's

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Speaker 3: looking off top, he's look off topic, like looking in

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Speaker 3: the mirror.

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Speaker 1: We would like you to look at your camera when

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Speaker 1: I see that it's like time to shave the beard.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we could have told you for weeks here.

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Speaker 4: You didn't need a camera for that.

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Speaker 3: Vacation to us, would we like to reveal what our

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Speaker 3: weight is this morning? What's you're playing weight?

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Speaker 1: You mean like when I were you in the door?

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Speaker 4: Uh huh?

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Speaker 3: What you're playing weight?

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Speaker 1: I weighed myself on Friday one six four?

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Speaker 3: What's the Let's let's put it this way. What's the

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Speaker 3: lowest you've been in your adult life? Your lowest playing weight? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Right now? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Probably okay?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: She ask me? What's the est? Okay, so I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to ask you to reveal the weight, but what

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Speaker 3: would be the range? What's the highest you've been? And

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Speaker 3: how many pounds highest from highest to lowest? What do

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Speaker 3: you think your range has been? And your adult life.

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Speaker 1: Highest would have been around one seventy four.

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Speaker 3: So you're like in a ten pound range. That's it. Wow,

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Speaker 3: that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Same, Well, it depends on what adult I mean, what

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Speaker 3: Well? From how far college until now? So fifty years allege?

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Speaker 4: In college I was adulthood whatever in college that was

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Speaker 4: one ninety. In college I was one ninety. Okay.

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Speaker 2: The behaviors I got in the prose was in the pros.

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Speaker 2: I never got over two hundred in the pros.

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Speaker 2: Life retirement, I got to two ten. Now I'm about

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Speaker 3: My playing weight is now it's two twenty five. And

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Speaker 3: at one point I ballooned up to two fifty.

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Speaker 4: No way, yes I did. It's trying to be a lawyer,

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Speaker 1: Let's see.

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Speaker 3: So the reason I'm bringing this up in.

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Speaker 1: College, my junior year, we had intermural wrestling and I

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Speaker 3: There's a reason I'm bringing this up, okay. And it's

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Speaker 3: the video that's going viral right now.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm not viral.

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott supposedly is it two o five right now? What?

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Speaker 3: There's a video of him on a football field throwing

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Speaker 1: Now, that means going to do some more running.

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Speaker 4: I hope not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

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Speaker 1: When I when I talked to him, so it had been.

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Speaker 3: Schottenheimer's press conference before you say this, what so, what

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Speaker 3: do you think Dak's range has been since college from?

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Speaker 3: He said two o five now, which he told me.

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Speaker 3: He told me I may have been after his rookie year,

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Speaker 4: Think it's a little too.

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Speaker 2: Might be a little different from your I thought you

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Speaker 3: No, No, this was like in February one year, okay,

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Speaker 3: and then he got to it and then by I

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Speaker 1: He looks pretty good out there working out.

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Speaker 3: M M. Well that video, he looks pretty good. I

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Speaker 3: mean two o five apparently.

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Speaker 1: He seems to be doing all the field work stuff,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he always started training camp. He always looks

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Speaker 3: like he's in great shape.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. But but to lose that much.

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Speaker 2: Muscle mass and just you know, pounds period, Man, what

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Speaker 2: do you think that's that's a lot now when it

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Speaker 2: comes to playing quarterback, no matter.

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Speaker 4: How big he is.

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Speaker 2: But based on the injuries that he's had already, oh

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Speaker 2: what ever, he's just don't try to break any tackles.

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Speaker 2: You know, his losing weight should not have anything to

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Speaker 2: do with how strong he's trying to be, because at

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Speaker 2: this point elusive, he needs to be elusive, and he

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Speaker 2: needs to be smart. And when he's trying to be evasive,

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Speaker 2: because you can't break any tackles like you used to.

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Speaker 2: That's how you broke your leg the first time against

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Speaker 2: the Giants. You're trying to stiff on the guy and

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Speaker 2: he does the hip drop on you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't need any Walter Hyton bread.

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Speaker 2: When someone gets within two yards of you, just drop.

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Speaker 2: That's it, that's it, and you can be that two

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Speaker 1: Gotta practice dropping.

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Speaker 2: Practice knowing the danger zone, right, That's what he needs

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Speaker 3: Absolutely so, so it looks to be in good shape.

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Speaker 3: The big news going on right now is the fact

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Speaker 1: I understand, can we get that live.

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Speaker 3: Media, the coach the NFL, the NFL rotate the coaches through.

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Speaker 3: The NFL has perfected this in the off season, okay,

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Speaker 3: agency starts two weeks later, and now two weeks later,

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Speaker 3: to talk to the media. There's a signed times where

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Speaker 3: in mini camp whatever they it just stay. He's in

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Speaker 3: the narrative looking at network. What's the question, what coaches

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Speaker 3: annual meeting? There you go, okay, well we're going to

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Speaker 3: hear from Shot and I or tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to know? I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: he's going to say.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to conduct a prescott. How's Dak look?

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Speaker 3: I already's down to two hundred and five.

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Speaker 1: Pounds here working hard every day, and we just got

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Speaker 1: to be careful that he doesn't try to do too

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Speaker 1: much too soon.

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Speaker 3: Is it next week they can start?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 1: I believe so.

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Speaker 3: The actual uh when you have a new head coach

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Speaker 3: it's two weeks early on the off season program, and

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Speaker 3: so it would be next week is when the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Least the strength and conditioning coaches. They can start like

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Speaker 1: team workouts.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, And of course as far as the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: are concerned. One of the first questions asked if Steven

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Speaker 1: And his answer was, we have visited with Micah Jerry

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Speaker 1: about so far. Some guys want to visit, some guys

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Speaker 1: don't want to visit. About their money, we respect it.

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Speaker 1: If players want to come in and talk. Michah likes

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Speaker 1: to visit, so that's a good thing. Who said that,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Jones? Okay, So look, everybody's so worried about we

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Speaker 1: like he hasn't been here the last two maybe three

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Speaker 1: don't know that that's the priority. And the one thing

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Speaker 1: that people don't understand is you can say this is

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Speaker 1: what he's got to be paid, right, well, he's got

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Speaker 1: to agree to that. You know, just because you throw

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Speaker 1: number out. And the other thing is guaranteed money. You know,

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Speaker 1: the player and his agent want would love the whole

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Speaker 1: money and all this BS talk about the Cowboys trading

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Go ahead and trade him to day. You

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Speaker 1: know what the dead money is? One hundred and ninety million,

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Speaker 3: How does that even get into at all?

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Speaker 1: Because somebody needs attention, that's the off season. Why are

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Speaker 1: they hate it? Because everybody wants to throw mashed potatoes

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Speaker 2: I would imagine with you being Italian, you would have

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Speaker 2: said pasta pasta?

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Speaker 4: Did you go mass potatoes? Well, because of the region, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Over cooked pasta doesn't stick.

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Speaker 3: Why would anyone want to throw mashed potatoes to get

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Speaker 3: the wall to see if it sticks.

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Speaker 1: It's a kind of a example of throwing bad information

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Speaker 2: Hey, maybe if you throw mashed potatoes up against the wall,

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Speaker 2: they might from the face of Jesus or something.

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Speaker 3: Artwork.

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Speaker 4: Right here we go? All right?

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Speaker 3: What else?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Has caught your ear?

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Speaker 1: There?

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Speaker 3: The tush push is a big topic of conversation at

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Speaker 1: Sounds like the Competition Committee is in favor of banning it.

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Speaker 4: Yep. I think it's unfair. I really do.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's look at this way. It's not just a

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Speaker 1: push push. It's a running back running for five yards

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Speaker 2: I would say, if you could take that element out

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a quarterback snake without It's just

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Speaker 4: Coming to push. So is that that's all they're trying

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Speaker 3: To push specifically. I think it's specifically worded for the

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Speaker 3: them forward. I think that is what the way the packers.

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Speaker 1: Get rid of the other pushing too, because you got

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Speaker 2: Got a lineman pushing running back into the end zone,

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Speaker 3: Or you grab them and throw them into the engine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or they tug them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, why did they start allowing it in the

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Speaker 1: I have no idea because it used to be against.

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Speaker 4: The room, used to be against the rule. Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of exciting, you know, because it gives

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Speaker 2: They you know, participate in it down the field, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not just the goal line is the

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's.

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Speaker 1: Still going when he's getting pushed. That's not the play.

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Speaker 1: You know, design a play. Okay, we're gonna let hand

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to and I don't know how

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Speaker 4: Know how you shot, you audit your goal line play.

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Speaker 3: You know how you can get rid of it, Run

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Speaker 1: Well, what happened at the goal line?

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Speaker 3: In the work though, every single place. I mean, you've

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Speaker 4: And not free. Now we're talking just rugby exactly.

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Speaker 3: So that's why you would get rid of it if

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Speaker 3: it becomes a regular part of an offensive game plan. Well,

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Speaker 3: what happened I'm exaggerated saying every other every play, but

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Speaker 1: Well didn't it happen on the goal line? And in

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Speaker 1: hockily said, if you do it again, it's touched down. Well,

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Speaker 1: And now it's gone as far as it can go.

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Speaker 1: you do it one more time, and it's a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: How many times I'd do it?

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Speaker 4: One more time?

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Speaker 1: I would have What if you're at the fifty yard

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Speaker 3: Is it the rams? I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember who meant it.

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Speaker 3: But the reason I said the rams because Sean McVay

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Speaker 3: So do you see McVeigh is against it too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you see what Sirianni said. He goes, I've got

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Speaker 1: three former offensive coordinators that have got head coaching jobs

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Speaker 1: because they use that. I better get those three votes

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Speaker 1: and ours.

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Speaker 3: That's four against, and they get and all they need

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Speaker 3: is nine I get it takes twenty four to vote

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Speaker 3: brit it out right, So so he's halfway.

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Speaker 4: There, right.

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Speaker 1: Any of the other rule changes proposals you like or don't.

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Speaker 3: Like, I do like on the kickoff rule to have

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Speaker 3: a touchback come out to the thirty five and yes,

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Speaker 3: the thirty.

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Speaker 1: Good for that. How about both teams during the regular

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Speaker 3: I have no problem at all playing overtime. I think

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Speaker 3: the overtime should not be a ten minute quarter. It

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Speaker 3: should be fifteen minutes. Yeah, and I think that's that's

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Speaker 3: the that's what you're getting at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and both teams should get a possessions regardless of

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Speaker 1: what happens. Yeah. Not I come down and score in

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Speaker 1: the games over a touchdown?

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Speaker 4: You like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, Oh, I don't have a problem. But no,

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with one. If you score

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Speaker 1: Everson would be for this eliminating automatic first down on

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Speaker 1: defensive holding or illegal contact five yard tunnel leader, right,

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Speaker 1: but they automatically get her first down. I always thought

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm so accustomed to it that you know,

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Speaker 2: you don't even think me the changes, yell't even think

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Speaker 2: about it. But that would be a great advantage for

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Speaker 2: a defensive back because you know, we're strategic on whin

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Speaker 2: we hold, right, you know, if a guy's about to

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Speaker 2: that's going to be an eighty yard touchdown. And he

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Speaker 2: if he's got me by at the thirty yard line,

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Speaker 2: and I know he's going to go past me, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take that grab. I'm gonna take that grab,

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Speaker 2: and I'll take the five yard holding. But if you're

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Speaker 2: hoping something happens because the offense is behind, and then

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Speaker 2: I held him, but then they you know, if I

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Speaker 2: hold him and it's say third and twenty five and

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Speaker 2: I hold him, I don't want him to get the

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Speaker 2: twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Right, I don't want him to get that.

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Speaker 1: Well, don't you think most most penalties are not because

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Speaker 1: guys don't know what they're doing, right, They're getting their

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Speaker 1: ass beating. Yeah, and it's like I better grab on,

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Speaker 1: I better grab on this offensive tackle. I'm giving up

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Speaker 2: And especially if I'm on the blind side, I know

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Speaker 2: you could be very strategic as a defensive bag. Now

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Speaker 2: make that hold now, and they still it's instead of

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Speaker 2: being it first down, now it's going to be fourth

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Speaker 1: What about extending the replay assist? And I'm for that, Like,

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Speaker 1: let the automatic guy call down and say, oh wait,

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Speaker 1: you screwed up.

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Speaker 3: How much time you've applied for that position?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Right, yes, I was going to bring in my white hat.

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Speaker 4: Right, how much How much time do you get for that? Though?

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Speaker 4: What do you mean just in regards to you know,

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Speaker 3: The way it's benefited it's it's done in real time

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Speaker 3: where it happens quickly. They don't even have to go

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Speaker 3: to anything half quick. And that's the way they've been

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Speaker 3: using it, and it's been a great addition to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: talking about it, expanding it in what way to other

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Speaker 3: call include more calls?

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Speaker 1: I think maybe the fifteen yard ones or ten yard ones. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let them buzz down. No, you didn't get that right

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Speaker 4: They got to get it quick though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's been quick and it's really.

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Speaker 4: Helped now if they're using it more now because.

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Speaker 1: You can see more, right, you can see upstairs better

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Speaker 1: I was down there doing those preseason games and I'm

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Speaker 4: That's where it's going to be important.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, you got to use the chip, just the

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Speaker 1: way techs said they should do it back in nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 1: Get a chip in the ball and let it see.

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Speaker 3: If they had chips back then.

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Speaker 1: Well they had them somewhat devised. They weren't really using them,

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Speaker 1: right yeah, I mean, you know, look what they're doing

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Speaker 1: he's not saying it was automatic. So when it was out,

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Speaker 1: the thing went off and it goes.

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Speaker 4: Fault, but it's already done, but it was done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in favor of that in baseball too.

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Speaker 2: Here's where I'm in favor of it. I still recall

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Speaker 2: when Dak's entire torso across the line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where's the ball?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? And they go, oh no, no, but he's he's okay.

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Speaker 3: So can we get Ciscus back to the toush push.

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Speaker 3: Can we put a chip in the helmet too, to

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Speaker 3: see when players are off sides on the toushbush, like

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Speaker 3: Can we do that?

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Speaker 1: I think you should be able to see that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what you should be able to see.

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Speaker 3: Why where you got a first down, lose the ball?

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Speaker 4: You lose the ball? Yeah, you lose the ball. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So no, I can't go with you on that one. Okay.

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Speaker 2: But now when Dak is when Dak's pelvis is across

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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, across the goal line, and you

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Speaker 2: still don't know if we've scored a touchdown, that's where

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Speaker 2: it needs to come into play real quickly, real quickly.

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Speaker 1: My proposal is every twenty yards they should have a

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Speaker 1: referee up on a tall ladder like they do in

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Speaker 1: tennis or volleyball, and you can see down and you'll

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Speaker 1: see what's going on. Just need more officials.

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Speaker 4: Why you gotta put the ladder up there. Why you

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Speaker 4: just put the camera up there.

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Speaker 3: You get drones. He got three.

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Speaker 4: He will put the person on the ladder.

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Speaker 3: Mickey wants to sit there speaking.

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Speaker 4: That's just a sign.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the last week, there was a window washer

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Speaker 1: he fell at the rushing to the hospital. You know

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Speaker 1: what else happened last week?

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Speaker 3: I was thinking it was ane.

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Speaker 1: Oh they had because there was other guys and they

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Speaker 1: had a police had a drone to see where if

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Speaker 1: there was anybody else. I saw the guy operating it.

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Speaker 1: And then on Friday, somebody and I don't know if

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Speaker 4: The g wagon. It was a jeep, Yeah, it was

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Speaker 4: a g wagon. It ran into like six or seven cars.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you heard about it.

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Speaker 4: I saw well. I saw the aftermath. I was.

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Speaker 1: I was there when they were trying to write everything.

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Speaker 4: What the heck happened? Oh glad you brought this up,

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Speaker 1: At the Star, some guy was working out at the

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Speaker 1: was looking out the window and the guy didn't stop

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Speaker 1: to be going sixty miles an hour and he hit

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Speaker 1: the curb.

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Speaker 4: On the wrong hit like six or seven cars and

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Speaker 4: it flew up.

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Speaker 1: In the air and hit seven cars. Wow, And it

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Speaker 1: ended up tipped over because the top when I saw it,

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Speaker 1: at the top of the jeep was all crushed in

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Speaker 1: And I said, well, how did that happen? And he

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Speaker 1: walked out of it and he didn't hit any I mean,

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Speaker 1: he didn't know person got hit, but seven cars were they?

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Speaker 1: So he walked away right, Yeah, he got out. Guy

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Speaker 4: I thought maybe he had an episode.

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Speaker 1: Oh hit something, that's what they thought.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything of fishing. But it stopped down

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Speaker 3: Greer behind Dak Prescott. Sam Ellinger, the former Texas longhorn,

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Speaker 3: Denver Bronco. That's the breaking news this morning. The news

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Speaker 3: has been few and far between here lately in free agency.

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Speaker 1: So how much did Eldinger actually play.

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Speaker 3: He got into I'll look it up here. The last

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Speaker 3: couple of years he has not gotten on the field,

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Speaker 3: but he actually played some maybe his rookie year. Let

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Speaker 3: me look it up here. I actually like him as

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Speaker 3: a prospect, as a you know, back of the back back, yeah,

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Speaker 3: back up quarterback prospect. And I thought that the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: might have some interest just because of the fact that

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Speaker 3: their new offensive coordinator slash offensive line coach has some

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Speaker 3: history with him in Indianapolis. You know knows what kind

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Speaker 3: of guy. Yes, in his second year in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: he started three games and had a sizzling oh to

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Speaker 3: three record at the Colts.

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Speaker 2: See, I know they had they've had at quarterback for

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Speaker 2: the Colts, and I thought All would be a little

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Speaker 2: bit better as a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I really thought he really didn't get an opportunity. He's

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Speaker 3: showed something in preseason games and but the last couple

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Speaker 3: of years has not gotten on the field.

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Speaker 4: And the Colts have had many opportunities.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, to move I.

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Speaker 1: Need somebody that has started games. I don't even care

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Speaker 1: if they've won or lost. It just started games. Because

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Speaker 1: when you're a backup quarterback ever since you know this,

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Speaker 1: you don't even get the practice once the season starts.

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Speaker 1: So there's none of this, well he's gonna get better. No,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna sit there and watch and they're going to

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Speaker 1: tell you, oh, you've got to go in and play.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback just got hurt and you haven't taken a

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Speaker 1: snap in practice all week unless it's the practice the

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Speaker 1: practice squad.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, Ellinger goes to Denver where Jared Stidham is

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Speaker 3: the backup to bow Nicks, so that's a good spot

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Speaker 3: for him.

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Speaker 1: So maybe produce or growing.

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Speaker 3: With Sean Payton and so forth.

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Speaker 1: And that's what the Cowboys, and I think Steven answered it.

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Speaker 1: It's like they're not done yet, and I'm assuming that's

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Speaker 1: the position they're not done with. They need a backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback that has.

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Speaker 3: Sae will Will Greer's been in that position in his career.

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Speaker 3: He's never had an opportunity to go play in a game,

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Speaker 3: so he's not outside of pre season games. And so

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Speaker 3: if Ellinger were to come here, it would be for

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Speaker 3: the Greer spot. Okay, right, you have to have a

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Speaker 3: second guy who is who has or you drafted starting experience.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you yeah, I mean think about that.

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Speaker 1: It's the same philosophy they had when they drafted Dak.

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Speaker 1: It's like, here's a young guy which can grow and

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Speaker 1: maybe be my backup of the.

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Speaker 3: Which brings us to your visit to Austin last week,

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Speaker 3: yes day, and so what do you see down there?

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Speaker 1: Well, let's start with quinn Ewers. And I was thoroughly

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Speaker 1: impressed with his performance. I think when you watch on TV,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to judge the speed of the past.

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Speaker 3: He's got zip on the ball, and that's what that's

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Speaker 3: one of my concerns watching him last year. He seemed

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Speaker 3: to be a soft tosser.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, and that's what I thought, and as I.

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Speaker 3: But I've seen him going back to high school and

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Speaker 1: And I said, and because you know why.

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Speaker 2: When he's on and he's really connecting, well, then he

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Speaker 2: has some zip on the ball.

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Speaker 1: He played through that torn obleak muscle and it was

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Speaker 1: worse than I think Texas led on to believe. And

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Speaker 1: when I'm standing on the sideline watching him throw short

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Speaker 1: mid range and somewhat like deep outs or whatever. That

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Speaker 1: ball was humming. Yeah, and I'm accurately too, by the way.

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Speaker 1: So he ended up completing fifty or fifty nine passes.

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Speaker 1: He had four drops and five you would call incompletion, okay,

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Speaker 1: And at least two or three of those incompletions were

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Speaker 1: he was throwing go routes and he floated him a

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Speaker 1: was right on and it would there was no break.

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Speaker 1: It was passed after pass after pass, and there were times.

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Speaker 2: His talent is not about throwing hard, it's about throwing

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Speaker 2: in a timely fashion and smart. Yes, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: He knows when to throw it. It's not going to

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Speaker 2: be one of.

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Speaker 4: Those bbis in the dark as they always talk about. Now.

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Speaker 2: He knows when to throw it. That's why he never

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Speaker 2: used as much arm strength.

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Speaker 1: Well, he was using it in this. Now again, you're

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Speaker 1: throwing against air right right, he was. He was directing

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers when they were going to run a

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Speaker 1: route and they weren't lined up right, he moved them.

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Speaker 1: And I thought he had a heck of a workout,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know that he'll ever be

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Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in the NFL, but I.

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Speaker 4: Think I think he can.

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Speaker 1: He's good enough to take a chance on. Let him

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Speaker 1: sit a.

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Speaker 4: Year or two better than half of them all.

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Speaker 1: I had somebody tell me, he goes. You don't think

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Speaker 1: he's better than what's the guy's name is A Jackson Dart. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: at Ole Miss he goes. It's every bit as good

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Speaker 1: as that guy.

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Speaker 3: That's what I don't understand about this whole process. I mean,

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Speaker 3: and I see the talent cam Ward has and I

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Speaker 3: love And cam Ward's thrown a lot of passes in

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Speaker 3: college too, I mean, and that's another thing. He's been

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Speaker 3: playing for five years in college. In fact, I added

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Speaker 3: it up last week. Cam Ward he if you count

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Speaker 3: his time, he was two years at Incarnate Ward, two

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Speaker 3: years at Washington State, and one year at Miami. Now

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Speaker 3: you can talk about the level of competition at Incarnate Word,

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Speaker 3: but that's still you're in an offense for the same

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator or a head coach that was his offensive

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Speaker 3: coordinator Washington State. He's thrown twenty four hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: nine passes in college. That's what kind of experience he

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Speaker 3: has coming in for eighteen thousand yards one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty seven touchdowns. Shdor sanders along those same lines in

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Speaker 3: four years, first at Jackson State two years and then

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Speaker 3: at Colorado for two years. He's got eighteen hundred pass

665
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 3: attempts and one hundred and thirty four touchdowns. Jackson Dart

666
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: thirteen hundred pass attempts. Quinn Yours is at eleven hundred

667
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: or so. Whereas Quinn. So, what was your point that

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Speaker 3: you were going to make.

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Speaker 1: My point was I was impressed, and I was, he's

670
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: got it with the zip on the ball and his accuracy.

671
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're throwing against air or whatever.

672
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: When you got to throw the quick out to a

673
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: running back that's on the move, he hit him and

674
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: his ball was catchable too. So I was, I tell you,

675
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: thoroughly impressed with him.

676
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Speaker 3: And I have some inside knowledge that a team that

677
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: is very interested in Quinn yours is the New Orleans Saints.

678
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Speaker 1: And Kellen Moore, Yeah, I'm sure Kellen Morrison. Kellen was there, right, Yeah,

679
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: Kellen was there.

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00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn was there, which a matter of fact, I

682
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: got a chance to talk with him.

683
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Speaker 3: For a while.

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Speaker 1: He's great. He's still one of my favorite guys. H

685
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: He thanked me for saying hi to him, you know, so,

686
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: and what was he here? Was he here two years one.

687
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 3: Years when Parcels got here? Yeah?

688
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: Maybe, but anyway, Yeah, there were five head coaches there.

689
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: Tomlin was there. He didn't attend the pro day, but

690
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: I was totally did interviews the day before.

691
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Speaker 3: Okay, saw and by the way, to wrap up on yours,

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Speaker 3: I think that he will be a I think he'll

693
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Speaker 3: be a second round pick, and he could even uh

694
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Speaker 3: if a team really likes him, could take him late

695
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 3: first round. Yeah, that's my opinion.

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Speaker 4: It could be.

697
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: Now we'll see where the quarterbacks go, and you know

698
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 3: a lot of times it's wherever the run is on quarterbacks.

699
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Speaker 4: And if only.

700
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: Cam war goes early and teams wait until the second round,

701
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: he could slide. But I think he's in that same

702
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 3: mix myself.

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Speaker 2: I look at I look at what quarterbacks are doing

704
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: to really up their game, uh huh, and I think

705
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: he should be doing something to up his game to

706
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: make himself even better, even sharper, someone that can really he's.

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00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: Been meeting with McCarthy, Mike McCarthy's been working okay.

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00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: And and so yeah, and he's got uh, the Cowboys

709
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: will bring him in for the Dallas Day. So because

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00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: you don't there's no limit on how many times you

711
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: can bring those guys in. So since he was at

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Speaker 1: South of Lake Carol, he can.

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Speaker 3: Be qualifies for the Dallas Day. They may have men

714
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: separate than that, and they might talk to his dad.

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00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 3: And I was unclear whether and I think his dad

716
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: was unclear. He's not not understanding, you know what Dallas

717
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: Day is. But my understanding is he is going to

718
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: have a workout with the cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think according to his dad, I think

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00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: it's you know, depending on where he goes. You know,

721
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: they get to the third round and he's still there.

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00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: Think about it, because you don't have a fourth you know,

723
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 1: somebody will say, wow, you took him with round two. Soon,

724
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: Well I don't have that brown So if I want him,

725
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Speaker 1: I got to take.

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Speaker 4: Them all right.

727
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: So tell me about the other guys. You so hot

728
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: on this. Matthew Golden, is he good?

729
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: Let me tell you between him and Bond, those.

730
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Speaker 3: Guys Isaiah Bond ran a four two.

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Speaker 1: Nine great routes. Yeah, and Golden stayed on his combine time,

732
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: which was four two nine.

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Speaker 3: That's smart. That shows that he is a smart player too.

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Speaker 1: Bond ran the forty because he didn't run what he

735
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: wanted to at the combine. I think he ran a

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Speaker 1: four to three four h during the pro day.

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Speaker 3: I like that because that showed competitive spirit. He wanted

738
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: to beat his teammates for two nine exactly.

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00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: And their route running was impeccable.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They catch the ball, use their hands to snatch it,

742
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: none of this body grabbing. I'll tell you the other guy,

743
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: and my understanding is he sometimes had ball control problems.

744
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: The running back Blue Now this guy, now he ran

745
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: the sub three four three forty. Uh and boy, he's

746
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: he's got good hands catching the ball out of the backfield.

747
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: They worked the running backs, the tight ends, the wide receiver.

748
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: Oh and speaking of the tight ends, this helm guy,

749
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: Oh my, he's six seven, but he runs really well.

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Speaker 1: And you know how they they tight end at.

751
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 9: Texas gunner Hell okay, and uh, you know they were

752
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 9: practicing that that seam route where you know you're down

753
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 9: the seamen and the ball is going to be thrown

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00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 9: over the linebacker.

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Speaker 1: You got to be able to snatch it without you know,

756
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: the balls in the air already. He was pretty impressive too.

757
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: And evidently at the combine, first step on the forty

758
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: he pulled a groin muscle or a hammy or something,

759
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: and so his time wasn't very good because he finished it.

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Speaker 1: He didn't stop, okay, and that's why he ran a

761
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: four eight four. Yeah, but he was healthy for this

762
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: pro day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, almost beat me with and that was that was.

764
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: That was awfully he's now at the combine. He was

765
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: only two hundred and forty one pounds sixty five one

766
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 3: that he listed at two fifty at Texas.

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Speaker 4: But ran.

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Speaker 3: And like you said, he ran a four eight four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had him listed six five two fifty.

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Speaker 2: If the Cowboys were smart and they're looking at the

771
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: running back, that running back had better be multitalented, right,

772
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: they can find a running back that can be a

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Speaker 2: receiver out of the backfield.

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Speaker 4: Tony Pollard, I don't think I like Tony.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about running routes. I'm not talking about screen

776
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: passing things that nature. I'm talking about the ability to

777
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: isolate in the slot and run a route. Those kind

778
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: of running backs, they are invaluable, especially if he's because

779
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: now he comes out in a certain formation. You have

780
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: two running backs in the backfield, but one of those

781
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 2: is going to be a slot receiver.

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00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: Well, Pollard at Memphis played wide receiver before he was

783
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Speaker 3: running back.

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00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 4: Down the field.

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00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: As far as you know, particular routes, we use him

786
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: screen passes and flare routes and things of that nature.

787
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Speaker 1: The backup running back before Zeke got here. Oh, I

788
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: watched it the other night.

789
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 4: I saw a.

790
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: Replay of one of Tony Romo's drives and he kept

791
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: dumping with number twenty five.

792
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 3: Lance Dunbar.

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00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: Dunbar. He used him on that they had like a

794
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: minute thirty four to go, and Romo drove him right

795
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: down the field touchdown to win and to win the game.

796
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: We think it was against maybe the Giants, And he

797
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: used Dunbar at least three times, just coming out of

798
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: the backfield and hitting him on the run. And I

799
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: was thinking, Yeah, that's what I want in my backup

800
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: running back. Now, I don't know if Miles Sanders is

801
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: that guy, because he sort of was in Philadelphia if

802
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: I remember correctly.

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00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: And I only say that because right now we are

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00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: sure it as far as talented wide receivers are concerned,

805
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: and if we can show some type of variation in

806
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: our offense and have it to where we have players

807
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: with that can play multiple positions. If you're talking about

808
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: the running back who can protect the quarterback, run the ball,

809
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: and play that slot receiver, that'd be great. If you're

810
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: talking about the tight end that.

811
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 4: Can do more than one thing, that can make.

812
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: Up for your lack of talent at wide receiver, because

813
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: now you have the defense guessing you might not have

814
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: the talent, but we have the options on our offense

815
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: on third down and the key situations where we need

816
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 2: to move the chains.

817
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: The game you're talking about against the Giants was a

818
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty six wins in twenty fifteen, and

819
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 3: Lance Dunbar had eight catches for seventy yards in that game.

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Speaker 5: And.

821
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: Later that season against Atlanta he had ten catches for

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Speaker 3: one hundred yards in a game.

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Speaker 1: This must have been before Rumo got hurt, right.

824
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: It was, and Dunbar got hurt that year two. He

825
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: was only played the first four games of the season.

826
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Speaker 3: That was the season opener against the Giants twenty seven

827
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Speaker 3: to twenty.

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Speaker 1: Sea throwing the ball to him too much because ruma

829
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: only started.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about it with Lance Dunbar that season,

831
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at as the third back, basically as

832
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: a third down back. He had eight catches for seventy

833
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: yards against the Giants. The next game it was three

834
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: catches forty five yards against Philly. The third game, he

835
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: had ten catches for one hundred yards against the Falcons,

836
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: and then he got hurt against New Orleans after carrying

837
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: the ball three times for fifty four yards. He got

838
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 3: hurt in that game and he was out for the year.

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00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: I mean, talk about having a being on the cut

840
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: and that was what was his fourth year in the league,

841
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: and he was on the cusp of really getting it

842
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: gold right and then what a bad break? Yeah, anyway,

843
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: that's lezically.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now you keep talking about lack of talent at wide receiver.

846
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: So would you at twelve.

847
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 3: And Golden is one that is being talked about now

848
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: has been in that mix.

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Speaker 4: This badly? Yeah? If it one's at twelve, I'll take.

850
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: I saw Alvin Harper was taking in about twelve. Ohlen

851
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: was eleven or twelve.

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884
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885
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886
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889
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890
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,200
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891
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,520
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892
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,320
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893
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,560
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894
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,160
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895
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,280
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896
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:58,160
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897
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898
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: All right, Mickey, you got a couple of ways you

899
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: want to go here.

900
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: Steven was asked. I guess it was yesterday at the

901
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: NFL meetings when he spoke to the media, asked about

902
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback and what they're looking for, and he said, yes,

903
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: that is still an option meeting to find a veteran

904
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. He said, an option that we're looking at it.

905
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: We can do it via trade. What can you can

906
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: do it via that? And we'll see what's available out there.

907
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: Trade is one of them, and certainly signing available guys

908
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: is another one of them. I think when we look

909
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: for the full package, you're probably not going to get

910
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: all things just right or exactly what you want, But

911
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: at the same time, you want to get the very

912
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: best guy that we think gives us the best chance

913
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: to go out and compete with Will Greer and be

914
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: good in that room with Dak and Greer and who

915
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: everhere else we add, so uh there and from what

916
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm told, they're still looking for a veteran backup quarterback.

917
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: So interesting. They talked about trade too, which you probably

918
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: can do that with a future pick like down the

919
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: road and maybe not a pick from this ar next

920
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: year's fourth Yeah, yeah, right, since we have a habit

921
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: of giving a giving away, but trading away fourth round

922
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: picks for what Trey Lance, who's still out.

923
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: There and then who's now Canadian Football League might be

924
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 3: an option where Ti Lance? Yeah, all right, you had

925
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: you did research, yes, past drafts, so what are you

926
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 3: getting at and what you what?

927
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 4: What?

928
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: What I was trying to mention is when the Cowboys

929
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: have drafted in the first round one through seventeen, they've print.

930
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 3: Picked seventeen because Emmett was seventeen.

931
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: That's right, and so was Kevin Smith by the way, Okay,

932
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: Pop and.

933
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 3: CD lamb, yeah's right.

934
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: So they hit on.

935
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: So don't trade if you're going to trade down, don't

936
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 3: trade down any farther than seventeen. In fact, you may

937
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: want to just go to seventeen. Just go right away.

938
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: Let me just see who picked seventeenth and it is Cincinnati,

939
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 3: so you get on the phone with Cincinnati and trade

940
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 3: down to seventeen.

941
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: Although at eighteen in nineteen seventy five, Thomas eventually Hollywood Henderson,

942
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: also Bobby Carpenter and Mike Charad who unfortunately.

943
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: Go seventeen broken legs seventeen.

944
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: But they've had they've had like a hundred who's that

945
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: broken broken leg? Yeah, it was in training camp his

946
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: rookie rookie year, second year. Don't get sidetracked, ye anyway,

947
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: So anyway, you realize they've only had three three number

948
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: one picks in their history.

949
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 3: Three number one overall picks. Yes, Troy Eggman, Russell Maryland

950
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 3: too tall, Yep, that's right.

951
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: Seventy four Dorset was a second, that's right, and they

952
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: only had two seconds Dorset and Randy White No. Number three,

953
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: number four, Zeke and the infamous Scott.

954
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: Appleton Texas Texas.

955
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: Longhorn ended up playing AFL right, I think so number five, uh,

956
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: Terrence Newman, john Nyland and Craig Morton, Number six Leroy

957
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: Jordan and Morris Claiborne, which was one of the thing.

958
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 3: That was trade up.

959
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he never stayed healthy. You know, uh,

960
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: no numbers seven, number eight, Roy Williams and Greg Ellis

961
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: number nine only once, Tyron Smith, No. Ten, eleven, DeMarcus

962
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: Ware and Michael Irvin.

963
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 3: How about that, So you may want to trade up

964
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 3: from twelve to eleven, that would be good.

965
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Number twelve, Danny Noonan, Elvin Harper, Micah Parsons. Well they

966
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: outlawed his strength, outlaw the outlaw chemicals.

967
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was Samson. They cut there.

968
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: Number thirteen only once at number thirteen. And this one's

969
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: a little misleading. It was Bob Lily because there was

970
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: only fourteen picks in the first round. They had traded

971
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: their first round pick in sixty one for Eddie leberon No.

972
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: Fourteen or fifteen sixteen, Zach Martin, and then we talked

973
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: about seventeen. They pretty good. So among all these guys,

974
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: one hundred pro balls when they were drafted before number twenty.

975
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: So then things get a little sketchy, But think about it. Normally,

976
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: there's what fifteen to seventeen guys in the draft that

977
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: have first round grades, so after seventeen you're probably drafting

978
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: a second round pick. So anyway, everybody's so worried about

979
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: what they're going to do. They've done pretty well when

980
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: they drafted at the top of the draft, and you

981
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: don't have to go into the twenties and take Chante Carvers.

982
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: Okay, you mentioned Mo Claiborne, yes, number six, and that

983
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: was in twenty twelve. The Cowboys traded up from fourteen

984
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 3: to six with Saint Louis and they gave up their

985
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: second round pick, number forty five overall, along with their

986
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 3: first round pick, number fourteen, to get Clayborne, and what

987
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 3: the Rams got at fourteen was Michael brock And then

988
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: I think the Rams traded their second round pick forty five,

989
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 3: but the Cowboys had they stayed at fourteen that year,

990
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 3: Michael Brockers would have been a good fit on the

991
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 3: Cowboys on the defensive line. And at forty five they

992
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 3: could have had Bobby Wagner who went forty seven to Seattle,

993
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 3: who's still playing right, who's still playing thirteen years later.

994
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 3: So sometimes it is not the best move to move

995
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 3: up to get that guy, which brings me to a

996
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 3: guy that teams might actually spend a lot of draft

997
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: capital to move up for in this draft, and that

998
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: would be the Heisman Trophy winner out of Colorado. You

999
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: could be getting not one, but two players in Travis Hunter.

1000
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 3: He's a cornerback and he's a wide receiver. In twenty

1001
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: twenty one, the San Francisco forty nine had the twelfth

1002
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 3: pick in the draft, which is where the Cowboys pick

1003
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 3: this year, and they traded up to number three to

1004
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 3: take Trey Lance. They gave up as we look at

1005
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter here, they gave up three first round draft

1006
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 3: picks and a third round pick. It was like, and

1007
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 3: I don't even count the draft pick that year because

1008
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: you're getting the first rounder, okay, that you're just exchanging slots.

1009
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 3: Moved up nine spots, right, Okay, So they gave up

1010
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty two first round pick in the twenty

1011
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 3: twenty three first round pick, which in San Francisco's mind,

1012
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 3: they have a really good team. It didn't matter whether

1013
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 3: Trey Lance was going to pan out or not, which

1014
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 3: he didn't. There was going to be a late first

1015
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: round pick, okay, and then a third round pick. Two.

1016
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: What a team give up that kind of capital to

1017
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: move up to get a Travis Hunter when you consider

1018
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 3: the fact you could be getting two players for the

1019
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 3: price of one one.

1020
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 1: Eventually, probably not as a rookie.

1021
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, you could play him a

1022
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: little bit both ways if you wanted. What do you think,

1023
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: ever soon about Travis Hunter's abilities, whether he's best suited

1024
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: for corner or receiver, what do you think?

1025
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 2: Well, they don't even know how to label this guy

1026
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: first of all, and wide receiver and defensive back. They're

1027
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: still they compared to Stefan Diggs as wide receiver, and

1028
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: they compare them to Trayvon Diggs as a cornerback.

1029
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 4: That's funny, that's right, that's crazy. He's compared to both brothers.

1030
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 3: Let me ask you if Dion Sanders did not play

1031
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 3: baseball and he was just strictly a football player and

1032
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 3: he was in this draft or any draft, okay, and

1033
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 3: he has kind of a similar career to what Travis

1034
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 3: Hunter had at Colorado, or he played some offense too,

1035
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: if he was drafted. If Dion was drafted just as

1036
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 3: a white or just played wide receiver and not cornerback

1037
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 3: in the NFL, what kind of career would he get?

1038
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 4: No, Okay, I wouldn't.

1039
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm not as impressed with Dion at wide receiver because he's,

1040
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: you know, lack of a better term, one trick pony

1041
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: in regards to his speed.

1042
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 3: At I'm talking about if he had trained as a

1043
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 3: wide receiver, he's just full time wide receiver.

1044
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 4: I don't know how.

1045
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: I don't know how he would be in that regard,

1046
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: but I do know that if I'm looking at Travis Hunter,

1047
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: I don't see a cornerback, any cornerback in the draft

1048
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: as good as Dion Sanders was right.

1049
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: But so my question I'm looking at.

1050
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: If I'm looking at Travis Hunter as a wide receiver,

1051
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: I think Travis Hunter is a better wide receiver than

1052
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: Dion as a wide receiver. As a defensive back, nobody's

1053
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: than Dion said.

1054
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 3: So if Dion were let's say, Dion, we're in this

1055
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 3: draft and you had a need for a playmaking cornerback,

1056
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 3: shut down corner, whatever, what would you give up to

1057
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 3: move from twelve to say two or three in order

1058
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 3: to get Dion Sanders.

1059
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 4: I'll give up a first around them.

1060
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: So you would give up next year's first round picks. Switch.

1061
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 3: You would not do what San Francisco did, which was

1062
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 3: to get Trey Lance. They gave up the next two

1063
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: first round draft picks twenty okay and a third which

1064
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 3: and they seem to survive it pretty well.

1065
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, speaking of Dion, when they had

1066
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: the big twelve Pro Day here, my buddy David Smoke

1067
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: in Waco got an interview with shilohe Sanders and he

1068
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: was pretty funny.

1069
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 4: Oh, he's hilarious, Shiloh.

1070
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: He is on his Shiloh his day. Shilah goes, I

1071
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: keep hearing him always tell me that he's like four

1072
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: to two for breakfast, right, and he goes, I can

1073
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: find anything on the internet. I could not find any

1074
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: evidence that he ran a four to two. And he goes,

1075
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: and I'm so tired of hear it. It was absolutely hilarious.

1076
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: He goes, you can look up this, this, and this,

1077
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: but there's no evidence of a form.

1078
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 4: Can not find it. But you let telling he's done.

1079
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all I hear.

1080
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: Run four two for breakfast. Yeah, run four two for breakfast.

1081
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: That's what he always said.

1082
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: And by the by the way, the Colorado Pro Day

1083
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: is this way. Now, Shiloh did not get invited to

1084
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: the Combine, right, but the Colorado Pro Day is this week,

1085
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 3: and so it's gonna be interesting to see what Shiloh runs.

1086
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 4: Is he gonna do anything now, you're talking.

1087
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: Go ahead, his brother Shiloh safety safety.

1088
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 4: How's he looking as far as what's his time?

1089
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: Well, he hadn't had one official yet because he didn't

1090
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 3: get invited to the combine. That's what I'm saying is

1091
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 3: that pro day, we'll see what Shiloh's time of time.

1092
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 3: Maybe look let me look at Ai.

1093
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1094
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but because his dad ran a four. Yeah no, no,

1095
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 3: it was.

1096
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: The interview was really good and he's yeah. I didn't

1097
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: expect him to be that personable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was thinking because was always talking.

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01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking, oh, you know, he's Dion and

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01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: then he doesn't need this stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's good. Shiloh took the combine snub personally and hired

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Speaker 3: official combine timers to come to Boulder to conduct his

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01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 3: own forty yard dash test, stating, I didn't get invited

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01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 3: to the combine, but I brought the combine to me.

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01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 3: The apple doesn't fall far.

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01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 4: From that doubt you got just watched the show. Watch

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01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 4: the show.

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01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: I can see Shiloh in the cowboy uniform.

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01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be nice.

1110
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 3: In training camp. Can you see that? I can see

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Speaker 3: it in May.

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01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: The only the only problem he has is he has

1113
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: no regard for his own body.

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01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 4: He will throw it in there.

1115
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: If you talk about his dad couldn't play uh tackle football,

1116
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: well his son, the son is showing that he can

1117
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: play tackle football.

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01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: Okay. And he's a safety, not a corner.

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01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 4: Safe, that's correct. He comes in. He brings that hat

1120
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Speaker 4: with him when he comes.

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01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go, all right? Anything else to close

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01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 3: it out with. I got a mixed shot.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, well, it's too late. Yep, we're

1124
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 4: one over.

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Speaker 1: Who's who's the other? The top wide receiver, the kid

1126
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: from Arizona.

1127
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tip McMillan, Ye, would you. I haven't watched him

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Speaker 3: enough to be able to tell you. That'll be my

1129
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 3: homework assignment.

1130
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, if a wide receiver comes here, he's got.

1131
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 2: To have that that dog in him, right, So you

1132
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: want to I.

1133
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Speaker 4: Don't want to.

1134
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: If somebody, I don't want anybody, it's gonna be he's cute,

1135
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: he can do that. I want Michael like a Michael Ivan,

1136
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 2: like like a dads vine And that's what I want

1137
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: to kind of attitude I want from whoever.

1138
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 3: That's one I want at number twelve. It's got to

1139
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 3: be and I don't care whether it's I was telling

1140
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 3: someone the other day, I don't care whether it's a

1141
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 3: wide receiver, whatever position it is, it needs to be

1142
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 3: someone with that kind of dog attitude. It's Michael Parsons.

1143
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: It's what that is too, receiver, running back or defensive end.

1144
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: Somebody that's going to change the game for me.

1145
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 3: Your offensive line's fine, second round because you're getting interior guy,

1146
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: you're convinced there, you're good with the.

1147
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: You gotta go.

1148
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: I want a running back that can do all things.

1149
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 2: I want someone that can do all things. He could

1150
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: be a game changer for this team.

1151
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 3: Okay, he wants a dog, all right, So well, okay,

1152
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: we'll come back with our dogs next Okay, all right?

1153
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 3: Does it for mixed shines? Have a great week. And

1154
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 3: who's gonna play in the National Championship Game next Monday?

1155
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 4: Duke yet?

1156
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: Duke versus who Duke plays? Houston and Auburn and Florida

1157
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 3: on the other side.

1158
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: I take Florida.

1159
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 4: Florida is tough.

1160
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 3: So you got Florida. We got Florida, Florida. Houston's what

1161
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 3: you got.

1162
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 2: I hope I'm wrong, but I think Duke, Okay, you

1163
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: think it's going to take it all.

1164
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: Right, Watch that defense.

1165
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 3: Yep, that's right. Defense wins championships, right, Mickey, that's true.

1166
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: That's another story for another day. Yes, and we'll talk

1167
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: about that next Monday on mix Shots, Oh Cowboys.

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