WEBVTT - Video Game Consoles 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.880 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:09.120 It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:17.840 tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello everybody, 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.320 and welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poulette, 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.800 and I'm an editor here at how stuff works dot com. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.760 Sitting across from me, as always, is senior writer Jonathan Strickland. 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:32.680 Hey there, Crispy, insert coin. I'm sorry, that's great. I 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:37.000 get Chris here unfortunately has a bit of a chest cough, 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:39.839 and so when I catch him off guard like that, 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:44.040 his bronchial tubes all protests at the same time, just 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:48.280 like our listeners. Yes you can. You can hear uh 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.800 a thousand tiny I'll vel I screaming at once and 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.640 then we're suddenly silence. Yes, that's tragic. So the reason 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:57.720 why I said insert coin in the first place was 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.800 not to make Chris fall over, but was a cheap 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:07.040 segue into our topic, which is a video game consoles. Yeah, now, 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.800 we which don't require coins, no, but you know, well 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:15.200 they do a whole lot of coins. That's right, baby. Um. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.000 So you guys who have been with us the whole 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:22.200 time may remember a long, long time ago. Uh, in 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.800 a galaxy far far away, we talked about um, about 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.800 video game consoles. But that was like our seventh episode. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.120 That was back when we did episodes that lasted five 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:34.800 minutes and we talked like the guy from the micro Machines, right, 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.080 And currently we do episodes that range about as long 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:42.399 as your average German opera. So, uh, we thought felt 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.920 it was about time to go back and re revisit 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.200 I'm sorry, Chris, Chris is just totally lost and that's 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.520 trying to crack me up. No, but we thought we'd 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.080 go back and revisit the episode UM and kind of 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.640 talk a little bit more about consoles, especially after getting 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.280 a couple of iTunes reviews where people said we were 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.880 lame because we don't cover gaming enough. You know, we're 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.480 not a gaming podcast. You're not go to argue with you. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:08.720 I'm just saying we're not a gaming podcast. We are 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:12.760 not a gaming podcast, but we do sometimes cover gaming 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.560 because it falls under the umbrella of tech. But we're 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.240 not exclusively about gaming, so that's why you're not going 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.320 to hear that many episodes. So please feel free to 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.720 write to Star Reviews about how we never talked about 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.160 digital cameras. Please don't. If you're gonna, if you're going 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:31.680 to write a review, make it positive. I know, stuff 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.680 you should know said that they wanted more reviews, but 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.919 they wanted to they wanted people to be honest. You know, one, 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.200 give me a one star review. If you really don't 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.000 like it, it tell us why. I'm telling you our 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.720 listeners don't do that. Leave us five star reviews. I 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.920 don't care if you tell us why. Okay, So, now 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:50.720 that we've moved on, you can you can give honest 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.320 reviews to stuff you should know that. Yes, feel free 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.680 to give honest reviews to stuff you should know. So 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.760 let's talk about video game consoles now that we've already 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.280 a united all of our listeners. Now we weren't going 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.679 to talk about all video game consoles. I mean we 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:07.560 we could go back to the whole birth of Pong 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.680 thing again. But if we start talking about history, will 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.000 be here for about six German operas. Okay, here, well, 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.640 let's let's do it this way. Tell me what video 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:20.240 game consoles you currently owned that you actually could play 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.520 like without having to hook him up to your TV, Like, 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.040 what's hooked up to your settle? It's actually hooked up. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.519 The only the only things I have hooked up are 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.799 technically the sake of Genesis just needs to be plugged in, 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.480 but it is actually sitting on the entertainment console. Um. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.360 The only two that are actually hooked up and you 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.240 can actually flip the switch and have it come on 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.440 are the PlayStation two by Sony and the Nintendo We 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.720 all right, and so for our listeners, here's what I 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:48.680 have hooked up to my entertainment system where all you 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.119 have to do is turn it on and it's ready 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.880 to go. I've got the Nintendo sixty four. I've got 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.880 the Nintendo GameCube. I've got the Nintendo we I've got 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.680 the Sony PlayStation two. I've got the Sony PlayStation one. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.440 I've got the Xbox. I've got the Sega Dreamcast. I 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.960 think that's it. You must have like a B C 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.560 D E box. I have an HDTV with lots of inputs, 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:11.320 and I'd also like to point out that I have 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.600 a Nintendo DS Light, which does not need to be 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:19.080 hooked up to a TV to play it. Yeah, take that, Pillette. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.200 So my Game Boy Black and White isn't a box, however, 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.080 so that that might be another reason why we haven't 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.080 really tackled video game consoles in a long time because 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:31.159 Chris and I, uh, we've neither of us own all 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.400 of the current generation consoles. That we is the only 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.039 one we both own. And uh, it's not that we 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.040 don't necessarily like the others. And there are other factors 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.680 which we'll get into. We'll talk about that about, you know, 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.120 why we own what we own and maybe why we 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.080 don't own the other ones. But let's start just by 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.239 hitting the basics. So let's start with the Xbox three sixty. 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.680 It's Microsoft's entry and there of course that's the successor 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.640 to the Xbox, which was very popular game console. And 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.360 I would say it's the first of the current generation. Yeah, 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.200 it was the first one out. It was the first 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.880 one out on the market. And uh, I would say, well, 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.560 I mean the we'se we has bigger numbers and sales, 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.680 but the Xboxes, I mean, that's like the I think 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.960 that's probably the go to choice for most gamers. Just 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:17.240 just as in the side, are we going to talk 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.719 about these all together and compare them or are we 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.240 just gonna go one by one? Because I was gonna 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:23.800 make a statement, I thought I don't want to ruin 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:27.719 the go ahead. Um. Yeah, you know, the the of 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.680 the three current generation consoles, they're really kind of different 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.159 machines because the Xbox three sixty in the PlayStation three 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:40.520 are high definition machines. They have very very high end processors, 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.320 at least compared to you know, previous generations and the 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.560 Wei for that matter, and um, they're really aimed at 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.520 a different segment of the market, or were when they 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.560 were released. I think they're all sort of converging on 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.320 one another now, including the WE. For that, I think 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.600 the WE is probably bubing the slowest of the three, 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.200 and the other two are kind of flailing around trying 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:03.719 to get to where the WE is. It's kind of 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.760 interesting really well the WE is. UM. Part of the 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.720 reason why the WE is so much less expensive, which 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:14.480 helped it in sales, um, is because they used Nintendo 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.920 decided to use off the shelf components. I mean, Sony 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.880 spent a lot of money developing that processor, which is 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:25.760 an amazing processor, especially for a game console. Um, but 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.920 you know, Nintenna went, you know what, let's just take 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:31.839 on of these and that thing are there, and um, 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.719 six of those okay, We're done, and it it. It 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.400 helped them because they helped them keep the cost low. Um, 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.720 but it also means that it doesn't do ten a 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.839 d P, which is you know, high definition. It basically 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.839 looks as good as a DVD, which you know, as 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:49.400 far as I'm concerned, I don't have an h D 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.280 t V. I have a standard definition TV. So it's 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:52.839 not that big a deal for you. So so for 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.240 you your you know, it wouldn't really make a difference 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.400 if you owned one of the other machines because you 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.640 wouldn't really be able to tell the difference in effex quality. 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:05.359 Your television is not capable of showing it. Mine is. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.920 That's another matter. That's that's not obviously not what's really 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:11.720 important to me if I only own a WE and 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.760 not an Xbox three sixty or a PS three. So yeah, 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.480 the processors on the Xbox three six and p S 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.640 three are much more powerful. Um. The p S three 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.760 has got that that cell based architecture for the processor, 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.480 which is pretty amazing stuff. I mean that it's it's 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.960 really a powerful machine. I think you could say that 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:32.720 the out of the three, the p S three has 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.720 the most horsepower. Really potentially anyway you have to be 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.520 able to design software that can take advantage of the hardware. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.360 It's not the hardware just doesn't like, doesn't make the 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.320 game just run better on its own. You have to 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.240 architect the software properly or else you're just not gonna 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.880 see the benefit. And that's a benefit of having a 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.200 gaming console too, because, as Jonathan Is frequently pointed out 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:58.960 in past podcasts, um PC games suffer from this problem 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.440 because you want to buy the latest, say Command and Conquer, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:07.320 you find out that your processor might squeak out playing 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.920 the game, but you don't have enough RAM and your 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.400 graphics processor. There's no way, right, yeah, you would. You 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.440 would have to set all the settings solo that you're 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.400 looking at stick figures throwing rocks at each other. So, 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.880 I mean the console UH specs are a good thing 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.240 and a bad thing. I mean, in this case, you 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:29.080 have to write for Sony's UH specific custom chip and 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.040 take advantage you know that that's really geared to making 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.520 it look great on the machine, and in years to 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.200 come you're still gonna be able to play games on 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.920 it because people aren't gonna go out and write something 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.560 for you know, another five mega hurts worth of processing 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.040 power where another gigga hurts where the processing power because 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:51.400 the console itself really hasn't changed. Yeah, and uh so 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.720 let's let's jump back over to the xpox really quickly. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:56.960 I was just gonna mention that that comes in three flavors. 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:02.280 Oh it does. Yeah, there's the day, there's the past. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:06.079 So there's the three that you can go shop for 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.760 right now. Are the Xbox Arcade, which only has a 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:14.840 two or fifty six megabyte hard drive. And yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.240 the Arcade only has two or fifty six megabyte hard 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.839 drive um, which you know what, I remember back when 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.439 I was a kid and I owned a two eighty six, 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.760 where I would have thought two fifty six megabytes was 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.960 going way more than you would ever need. Um. And 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.440 it also is not compatible with older Xbox games because 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.839 it doesn't have the hard drive capacity to run them. Uh. Now, 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.720 the Xbox three sixty, the flagship Basic, the Basic model, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.800 I just got a sixty gigabyte hard drive, so that's 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.400 a pretty big jump. And it also comes with some 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.960 stuff that the Arcade version doesn't come with, like a headset, 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:52.280 comes with a network cable, um, and it's it is 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.120 compatible with about three hundred titles from the original Xbox. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:00.319 Then you have the Xbox Elite. Yes, that's the hundred 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.800 and twenty gigabyte hard drive and it's got all that 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.640 stuff plus as an h d M I cable. Um, 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.679 all three of them have the capability to plug in 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.680 via hd M I into a television, but only the 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.240 Elite actually comes with the cable. Otherwise you have to 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:20.760 buy it separately. And those are eight billion dollars. I'm kidding. Approximately, 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.880 we didn't price it before, but we are willing to 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:28.480 bet it is. I'm willing left leg that it's eighty 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:32.559 billion dollars. And once again our producer makes it into 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.840 the segment. Yes, we will call him Stumpy from now on. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:41.560 So uh Now, the Xbox CPU, it's got three symmetrical 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.840 cores running at three point two giga hurts. That's their CPU. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.880 I see you're reading the same information chart that I am. Yes, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.240 I'm the one right underneath says to hardware threads per core, 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:56.080 six hardware threads total. Yes, so it's a it's a 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.199 powerful machine. And um, you know even yeah, I mean 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.400 even now, several years after its release, this is still 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:06.319 considered especially when you consider that it's just dedicated to gaming. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.080 You know, I've granted, okay, Microsoft would totally have me 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.120 strung up for saying that, because there are other things 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.880 you can do besides gaming. But that's what it. That's 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.600 what it's. That primary missionary purpose is to play video 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.559 game mission. You could tell what I think of their 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.000 normal game set. It is nothing. There's nothing wrong with 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:28.360 having video games be your primary reason for being. For 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.040 many years in my teenage phase, video games were my 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.200 primary reason for being, So I have no problem with 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.200 a console that's that way. And that's it. It's an 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.840 IBM power PC chip too, which I find kind of 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.360 funny in a vague sort of way, since you know, 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.480 Windows is linked to the Intel processor for you know, computers, 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.360 yet they went with the IBM power PC chip, which 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:55.319 was for a long time the Max processor, although not anymore, 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.240 you know. And uh, it does have a custom a 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:03.280 t I graphics processor as well, running Hurts five Mega 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:07.199 Hurts with ten megabytes of embedded RAM. Yeah. That's a 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.240 pretty impressive stuff too, I mean what and it's understandable 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:16.160 because again Sony and Microsoft both really pushed the whole Uh, 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.560 you know, this is the next step in evolution for 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.320 graphics and uh, you know. That was that was the 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.719 big focus, was that look at how much better this 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:30.240 looks and sounds compared to the last generation consoles. That 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.920 was their selling point. It's not the way Nintendo went, 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.320 which you know ended up working really well for Nintendo. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.840 But we'll again go into that a little bit. What 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:44.800 what do you you have some smartass comments? Okay, well, 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.400 I was going to talk about the PS three as well. 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.720 There was just an announcement today as of the recording 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:55.160 of this podcast, so in the near distant past for 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.880 for all listeners. Yeah, they'll they'll tell you which day 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.320 it was that you can go back and look to 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.520 find out what day it was that they announced the 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:07.920 the brand new PS three Slim, which apparently you don't 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:12.320 mess around with if you live in the South side 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:16.840 of Chicago. Um anyhow, Yeah, it's basically, uh, the PS 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.640 three in a new package. Um and except it does 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.920 have a sort of semi meager hard drive just eighty gigs. No, No, 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.520 it's up to now is it? The old one was 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.520 a new one? Thought the Slim wasn't. Okay, sorry, I 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.679 was hasty in my my pre podcast research because it 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.840 just they just announced it. It was a rumor all morning. Yeah, 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.400 and uh, and so then this one's gonna cost two, 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.600 which is a big dip in price. I mean, that 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.400 was the biggest problem that people had with the PS 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.840 three for the longest time, was that it was the 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:55.280 most expensive of the three current consoles on the market, 0:13:55.840 --> 0:14:00.640 and and Sony seemed unwilling to to cut that price 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.400 year after year. And it was infuriating gamers who said, 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:07.520 I want this system, but I refused to pay five 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:14.360 bucks for it. Yeah, yeah, anyhow, Um, yeah, it was. 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.560 It was very highly touted at the beginning, and people 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.720 were talking about the PlayStation three and what it was, 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.240 you know, the big impact it was gonna have in 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.320 the market. And initially it did, like the first few 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.280 days when people were lining up around the block to 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.720 get their hands on them. And then you know, so 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.640 many people just said, you know, look, I can't I 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.000 can't afford that. Yeah, that purchase price was a huge 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.080 hurdle that a lot of people just weren't willing to 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.120 try and jump over. And uh, you know, I mean 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.920 even when you factored in the fact that that has 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:47.280 Blu Ray that that was because there was the cheapest 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.120 Blu Ray player you could get for six hundred dollars 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.400 is the cheapest Blu ray player. That's that's tough. But uh, 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.320 and that's no longer the case, of course, now, I 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.640 mean they're Blu ray Players, they're significantly less expensive than that. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.600 But but at the time it was the cheapest, and 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.920 yet it still wasn't enough to get people to you know, 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.600 jump ship on Moss. Now, you did have the enthusiasts 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.720 who adopted it and loved it, and there were some 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.360 really good games that came out pretty early for the 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:18.400 p S three and still has a very good library. Um, 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.800 there are some There's there's one major problem I would 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.080 have with the p S three, and that's the lack 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:29.680 of ability to unplug your previous PlayStations. Yes, that it 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.840 would be the lack of backwards compatibility. You nailed it. Um, 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:39.600 backwards compatibility is really important to me. And uh and yeah, 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.680 well you know it's kind of because the way I 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.480 wear my pants, so um, but yeah, backwards compatibility is 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:49.880 really important. It's it's you don't want to necessarily have 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:55.440 eight machines sitting around your television like Jonathan Strickland does. Well, no, 0:15:56.000 --> 0:16:00.320 you know, um, yeah, it's just it's it's not nemient 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.040 to have that many devices all plugged into one television. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.360 And if you can upgrade your hardware but still have 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.160 access to your old library of games, that's great. And 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.640 some companies have been pretty good about and up until 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.800 the PS three, Sony was one of them. The PS 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.960 two could play PS one games, and that was, you know, 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.160 one of the reasons why upgrading the PS two wasn't 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.120 a big pain in the butt, because you knew you'd 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:23.560 still be able to play all your old games, so 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.040 you could trade in your PS one for you know, 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.680 three dollars and put that towards your purchase of the 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.280 PS two and uh and feel good about it. But 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.640 the PS three not so much. Not backwards compatible, and 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:35.640 there was a lot of there are a lot of 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.560 people who are hoping that that would maybe be built 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.160 into the new SLIM package, that you would have backwards 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.000 compatibility added to that as some sort of firmware upgrade. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.720 It does not look like that's the case. It looks 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.280 like the PS three will remain incompatible when you're talking 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:56.480 about older titles. One thing, um, I think that one 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.120 criticism I did see, and of course nobody has your 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.280 hands on one of these as of right in the moment, 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:03.640 uh is where's all that heat going to go from 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.280 the processor? Because they said, you know, that's an awful 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:11.960 slim case for such a big processing heat plant. You're 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.200 would be interesting to see if that is an issue too. 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.960 You remember when the PS two underwent its transformation, I 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:19.679 mean they there was the same sort of thing like 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.880 halfway through or maybe a little well, I guess halfway 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.200 through the PS twos life it changed because he would 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.639 the neat thing about the PS two. People are still 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:32.680 making games for it. So they're still making games wore now, yeah, exactly. Still. 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.520 As a matter of fact, Sony is still selling a 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.959 lot of PS two's, which is another reason why backwards 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.879 compatibility would be awesome, because that libraries only getting larger. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:47.959 Unlike like you know, Xbox. They discontinued Xbox titles when 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.520 the Xbox three sixty came out. I mean they came out. 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.120 There were some Xbox titles for a few months afterwards, 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:54.960 and then that was it. And then you couldn't find 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:59.080 Xbox titles in any current store. And now you can't 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.919 even find them, and you stores because no one I 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.600 mean whenever I go in they have the three sixty titles, 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:07.919 but not the Xbox titles. Since I have an Xbox, 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:13.639 that kind of bites for me. We don't get to 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.199 play all these old games that I always want to 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.879 get ahold of. That's because you know, Microsoft has that 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:25.560 relationship with its developers, developers, developers, all right, all right, right, gosh, 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.080 do you introduced me to that, by the way, it 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:32.760 was my fault. Yeah. Um so yeah, Well let's see, 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:34.320 I guess we want to get one of the spects 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.560 on the PlayStation three at all. Well, they're a little 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:40.120 more complex because you're talking about a cell based processor, 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:44.040 so it's not apples to apples, no, no, um. And 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.600 but it can't handle to tara flops of of math. 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:49.760 That's a lot of math. That's a lot of math. 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:55.320 I could only handle up to algebra two. So all 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.919 right then I was pretty much a flop when it 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:02.159 came to calculus. Yeah, but you know what I just 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.480 thought of what we didn't talk about. Um yeah, I 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.200 mean you could you could tell sort of the way 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.520 they go. And this is this is really just another 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:14.760 sort of verbal side bar. Um. But U Xbox three 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.200 sixty sort of hitched its horse to the h D 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:24.119 DVD format as its high definition, yeah, versus versus the 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.919 Blu ray player, which still sad trombone Yeah yeah. But 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:31.359 it's it's funny though, because um that really actually this 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.680 puts puts the we into context, because, um, you could 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.760 tell what this is what these audiences are looking for. 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.320 I mean people who buy, or at least initially bought 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:45.200 the Xbox three sixty or initially bought the PlayStation three. 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.880 They were looking for something that would do all of it, 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.960 you know, high definition, high quality gaming. They're looking for 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:55.080 something that can handle a lot of math can show you, 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:59.320 you know, realistic three D interpretations of human beings, basically 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.560 three D representations of human being shooting at one another, 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.000 and when you weren't playing playing games, you were watching 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:09.120 movies and high definition we A is for a totally 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.840 different audience. Um. You know that it actually bundled a 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:16.360 title with it, we Sports, which is not an accurate 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:18.880 representation of a human being at all. They're not shooting 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.119 it one another and you can't watch even a DVD 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:26.199 on it. Um, So it's a completely different group of 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.600 people buying this machine. At the outset, the people who 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.800 bought WE'SE are people who wanted the gameplay that they 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.280 could get with the WE remote and UH and the 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:40.800 Nintendo characters. They wanted Mario, they wanted um, you know, 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.720 Link from the Zelda series, and UH, you know, a 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.399 sort of a new player in this case Sega their 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:50.320 relationship with Sega, and they wanted Sonic. Well, they also 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.040 wanted a game system that would let them play with 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.800 other people in their living rooms. See. The thing about 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:02.359 the Microsoft and Sony approaches are especially Microsoft with Xbox Live, 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.080 was that the focus wasn't so much get a whole 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:07.800 bunch of people in your room and play video games. 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.400 It was link up with people who are in their 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:14.000 living room across the city and shoot at them for 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:17.439 a while. We're over the internet. They're shooting across my 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.000 city anyway. But they don't really use game consoles for well, 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:23.640 we do live in Atlanta, the but you know, from Nintendo, 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:25.600 it was more about, hey, you know, we got a 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.639 party going on right here, y'all, so why don't you 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:31.600 pick up a WE mode and play? And UH and 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:34.679 so that had an appeal to a different group as well. Often, 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:39.080 UH will call one group the hardcore gamers and the 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.960 others the casual gamers. So hardcore gamers are the ones 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:46.399 who are really focused on on especially like say Xbox. 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:49.120 They're focused on getting achievements, and they're focused on being 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:51.760 the best they possibly can be on these games, and 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.000 they want to dominate in various you know, first person 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:58.960 shooters or strategy games. Uh, you know, they very objective oriented. 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:03.000 And then you could argue that the people the main 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.399