WEBVTT - The Diary of an ‘Undesirable’

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<v Speaker 1>From Puduromedia and PRX. It's Latino Usa. I'm Mariaino Rossa Today.

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<v Speaker 1>The story of the first Mexican American to register as

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<v Speaker 1>a Holocaust survivor and the scars that stayed with him.

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<v Speaker 1>In October of twenty ten, a man in his late

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<v Speaker 1>eighties walked into the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. And then registered himself as a Holocaust survivor.

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Anthony Acevedo, and on that day he

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<v Speaker 1>carried with him items including a Red Cross armband, a

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic prayer book, and most importantly, a tattered war diary

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<v Speaker 1>with the pages still intact. Anthony was one of three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty American soldiers who were imprisoned in a

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi concentration camp during World War Two, but he chose

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<v Speaker 1>to keep this part of his life a secret. Throughout

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<v Speaker 1>our piece, you'll hear Anthony in his own words in

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<v Speaker 1>segments of an oral history that he recorded at the

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<v Speaker 1>Holocaust Museum back in twenty ten. You're also going to

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<v Speaker 1>hear excerpts from his diary, which are read by an

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<v Speaker 1>actor and so dear listener to commemorate the anniversary of

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony A. Savedo's registration at the Holocaust Museum, and to

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<v Speaker 1>honor Anthony's legacy and shed light on this overlooked aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of history, We're going to bring back this story that

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<v Speaker 1>originally aired in twenty eighteen. Producer Janis Emoca brings us

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<v Speaker 1>the story now.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Savedo grew up in a Mexican household in Pasadena, California,

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<v Speaker 2>east of Los Angeles, and much of his childhood was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty typical of the time. He played with his cousins,

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<v Speaker 2>went to school, attended church. But then one day in

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<v Speaker 2>the mid nineteen thirties, when Anthony was almost ten years old,

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<v Speaker 2>he noticed that all his family's furniture had been packed up.

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<v Speaker 2>So he asked his mom what was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>What's happened?

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<v Speaker 4>Where are you going?

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<v Speaker 3>They said, no, we're all going, and he says where

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<v Speaker 3>are we going? He says, we're going to Mexico and says,

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<v Speaker 3>why is it? Because we were told to leave the

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<v Speaker 3>United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony himself had been born in the US, but his

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<v Speaker 2>parents they were undocumented, and at the time, many Mexican

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<v Speaker 2>American families were being pressured to leave the US in

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<v Speaker 2>something known as the Mexican repatriation in the nineteen thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>Mexicans were the largest and most recent immigrant group to

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<v Speaker 2>settle in the US, and following the Great Depression, they

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<v Speaker 2>were scapegoats for the economic downturn. Historians say that somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>between half a million and two million immigrants, as well

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<v Speaker 2>as US citizen like Anthony, were forced out of the country.

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<v Speaker 2>So Anthony and his family moved south to Mexico, to

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<v Speaker 2>the state of Durango.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they call me gringo because I was born in

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<v Speaker 3>the United States and I know half English and half Spanish,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was kind of difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>But Anthony gets by, DAPs, grows up, and then World

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<v Speaker 2>War Two starts, and right at the end of nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty one, Japanese forces attack Pearl Harbor and the United

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<v Speaker 2>States enters the war.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter how long it may take us, the American

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<v Speaker 1>people in their right, just Mike will win collab.

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<v Speaker 2>By this point, Anthony is seventeen, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>the US is trying to enlist any men of fighting age,

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<v Speaker 2>including Anthony, even though he'd been repatriated to Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>The Consul general the United States was after me because

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<v Speaker 3>of my age. Getting ready to go back in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States and serve your country.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, sir, he was drafted.

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<v Speaker 2>So he packed his bags, said goodbye to his family,

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<v Speaker 2>and headed back to the US to answer the call.

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<v Speaker 2>He went to California and was trained to be an

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<v Speaker 2>army medic, and then in the fall of nineteen forty four,

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<v Speaker 2>he was sent to Europe to.

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<v Speaker 3>Meet the German drive Generalizeenhower. Here at Supreme Headquarters, resourcefuly

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<v Speaker 3>regrouped his forces, giving key in.

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<v Speaker 2>A group of soldiers he was with took a train

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<v Speaker 2>to a small town in Germany called Phillipsburg. By this

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<v Speaker 2>time it was late December of a really hard winter,

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<v Speaker 2>and when they got out of the train, snow was

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<v Speaker 2>wat deep in some places. A few miles away, the

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<v Speaker 2>Battle of the Bulge was underway. It was a German's

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<v Speaker 2>last major offensive of the war. It was difficult for

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony to find the wounded. There were bullets buzzing through

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<v Speaker 2>the air, and the calls of medic medic were lost

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<v Speaker 2>in the echoes of the fighting taking place in the forest.

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<v Speaker 2>But he found some of the injured soldiers, and one

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<v Speaker 2>by one he tried to help them.

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<v Speaker 3>While he was doing repair jobs. First aid sutures and

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<v Speaker 3>sewing thumbs, cutting a leg off and throwing a turniquet

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<v Speaker 3>and sewing up the leg the stump, doing this and

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<v Speaker 3>that as a medica.

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<v Speaker 2>The battle lasted for days until finally Anthony's unit ran

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<v Speaker 2>out of ammunition. The Americans began destroying everything, equipment, firearms,

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<v Speaker 2>anything that the Nazis could use against them, and they

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<v Speaker 2>decided it was time to surrender, so a scout walked

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<v Speaker 2>out and waved a white flag. It was January sixth,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty five. Anthony and thousands of other American soldiers

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<v Speaker 2>were taken to a prison camp known as Stalic nine

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<v Speaker 2>B in bad Orb, Germany. The prisoners were referred to

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<v Speaker 2>by numbers instead of their names. Anthony was two seven

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<v Speaker 2>zero one six. Then on February eighth, all the soldiers

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<v Speaker 2>were commanded to line up.

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<v Speaker 3>And the commander said, all American Jews with names Jewish,

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<v Speaker 3>take two steps forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony says that at that point people who had any

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<v Speaker 2>markers of their Jewish faith little star medals or dog

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<v Speaker 2>tags with an H written on them for Hebrew, desperately

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<v Speaker 2>began to try to get rid of him, but to

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<v Speaker 2>no avail. That day, the Nazis selected about ninety Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>soldiers and another two hundred and sixty soldiers labeled undesirable

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<v Speaker 2>men who they simply thought look Jewish, consider trouble makers,

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<v Speaker 2>or any type of other This included twenty year old Anthony.

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<v Speaker 2>It could have been because he was brown skinned, or

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<v Speaker 2>because he was Catholic, or they saw him as a

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<v Speaker 2>trouble maker. We don't know for sure. They didn't need

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<v Speaker 2>a reason. The following day, the Nazis put the undesirables

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<v Speaker 2>on a train a box car.

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<v Speaker 3>You couldn't kneel, you couldn't squat. For six days in

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<v Speaker 3>those box cars, fellas couldn't defecate that all, they had

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<v Speaker 3>to do it right there. And for six days you

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't eat nothing. You could have nothing to eat, nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to drink, but the snow that hit the from the cracks.

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<v Speaker 3>You tried or punk your hand through the slot window

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<v Speaker 3>to get the drops of water from the rain.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually they arrived at a concentration camp known as Berga.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a subcamp of Buchenwald, one of the largest

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<v Speaker 2>Nazi concentration camps.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so snowy that you couldn't catch the glimpse

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<v Speaker 3>very well, but you see like towers of houses.

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<v Speaker 2>The men were divided into groups of sixty to eighty

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<v Speaker 2>men per Barck. There were other prisoners in the camp

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<v Speaker 2>as well, mainly European Jews, but they were separated from

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<v Speaker 2>the American prisoners. The captured soldiers were forced to work

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<v Speaker 2>in the camp. Many were put to work digging tunnels

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<v Speaker 2>for underground fuel factories the Nazis were working on. Since

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony was one of just a few medics in the camp,

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<v Speaker 2>he was tapped with trying to keep the men alive

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<v Speaker 2>as they worked. One day, the men were given a

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<v Speaker 2>rare red Cross package and in it a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>empty journals. So Anthony took one and began writing in secret.

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<v Speaker 2>He sketched the places and the scenes he witnessed. He

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<v Speaker 2>even sketched a couple of pinup girls, and to keep

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<v Speaker 2>the diary safe, he tucked it under his belt.

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<v Speaker 5>March twentieth, nineteen forty five, Yesterday our planes dropped leaflets

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<v Speaker 5>as well as bombs. Six men were sent to a

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<v Speaker 5>British hospital. Five more men escaped today. Goldstein's body was

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<v Speaker 5>returned here today for burial. He was shot while attempting

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<v Speaker 5>to re escape, so they say, but actually was recaptured

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<v Speaker 5>and shot through the head.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony's diary became a record of daily life in the camp.

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<v Speaker 5>March twenty second, nineteen forty five, Private Schultz died of malnutrition.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the fourth man to die. The weather is

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<v Speaker 5>beauty and it looks like spring, which has finally come

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<v Speaker 5>to Germany. By this time, back home, I'd be suffering

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<v Speaker 5>from hay fever.

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<v Speaker 3>We had got one hundred grams of bread per week.

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<v Speaker 3>The one hundred bred brands of bridge is not much.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a mixed of barley with sawdust, ground glass

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<v Speaker 3>and ground sam.

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<v Speaker 5>March twenty fifth, nineteen forty five, Palm Sunday. No chances

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<v Speaker 5>of going to a church, but still our prayers are

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<v Speaker 5>holding everyone up.

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<v Speaker 3>This day.

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<v Speaker 5>It reminded me of the hundreds of people attending Mass

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<v Speaker 5>at the cathedral in Durango, Mexico. I wish I could

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<v Speaker 5>be there now. March thirtieth, nineteen forty five, Good Friday.

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<v Speaker 5>On this holy day, our thoughts are all at home

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<v Speaker 5>and of the coming Easter Sunday. It is also the

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<v Speaker 5>feast of the Passover for our Jewish comrades, and they

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<v Speaker 5>also think of home and family.

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<v Speaker 2>As the journal entries went on, the more Anthony wrote

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<v Speaker 2>about the horrors in Berga, men from his unit began

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<v Speaker 2>to die in greater numbers from alnutrition or beatings, or

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<v Speaker 2>being overworked.

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<v Speaker 5>April second, nineteen forty five, two more of our men

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<v Speaker 5>died today, and one last night makes three plus sixteen

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<v Speaker 5>makes nineteen. Living in unsanitary conditions, water must be boiled

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<v Speaker 5>before it is drunk, no latrines. Deaths are increasing in

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<v Speaker 5>great number. Men forced to work in the mind whether

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<v Speaker 5>they are ill or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes Anthony simply recorded deaths.

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<v Speaker 5>Rogers March ninth, nineteen forty five, Young March twelfth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>forty five, Goldstein March tenth, nineteen forty five, Goldberg March

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<v Speaker 5>twenty fifth.

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<v Speaker 6>I knew that maybe someday it would be a valuable

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<v Speaker 6>thing for us to know that that there was important.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a fountain ten with me that I was

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<v Speaker 3>rising all the time with it, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how God gave me that. Ain't the less.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on Latino USA, American forces inch closer to

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<v Speaker 1>defeating the Nazis and liberating the men at Berga.

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<v Speaker 5>Received very good news today. The Americans are two hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and fifty kilometers from here and moving fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us, Hey, we're back. And when we left off,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty year old Anthony Esevedo was documenting his daily life

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<v Speaker 1>as a prisoner inside a Nazi concentration camp known as Berga.

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<v Speaker 1>Producer Jennie Yamoga picks up the story now, but it themples.

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<v Speaker 5>I hear at shase that the next few days will

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<v Speaker 5>be spent building up.

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<v Speaker 2>Our forces east of the Rhine. By April, US troops

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<v Speaker 2>had successfully crossed the Rhine River, one step closer to

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<v Speaker 2>defeating Germany. Wile British and American troops were crossing the

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<v Speaker 2>Rhine north of the Roar, the last German resistance west

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<v Speaker 2>of the Rhine collapsed. They were nearing Berga, and Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>and his fellow prisoners were hearing rumors.

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<v Speaker 5>Received very good news today. The Americans are two hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and fifty kilometers from here and moving fast. Received good news.

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<v Speaker 5>Americans are only two high hundred kilometers away from here,

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<v Speaker 5>which means they're excellent news today. Americans are only one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred kilometers from here. Said that our boys were sixty

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<v Speaker 5>kilometers from us.

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<v Speaker 2>The Nazis evacuated the sub camp and forced the remaining

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<v Speaker 2>soldiers on a death march that would last three weeks

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<v Speaker 2>and over two hundred miles.

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<v Speaker 5>April ninth, nineteen forty five, we marched ten kilometers. Today.

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<v Speaker 5>We're supposed to go to the town of hof but

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<v Speaker 5>we arrived to a big barn for our air corps

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<v Speaker 5>were bombing that town continuously. We started out with three

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and four men from Berga. We now have two

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and eighty seven men.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of the men died on the march. Their bodies

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<v Speaker 2>were left by the side of the road.

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<v Speaker 5>Stuart April fifth, nineteen forty five. Vogel April ninth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Weeks went by. Then suddenly, very early in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>the men heard firing like thunder in the distance. The

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<v Speaker 2>Americans were getting closer. The Nazis wanted to continue marching

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<v Speaker 2>and threaten the men that they shoot them if they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't continue, but Anthony and another medic stood their ground,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Nazis, afraid of the advancing troops, fled.

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<v Speaker 3>We started hearing the rumbling getting closer, and we all

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<v Speaker 3>started to run towards the highway.

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<v Speaker 2>When they got to the highway, they found the eleventh

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<v Speaker 2>Armor Division. The men were finally free again.

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<v Speaker 5>We were liberated today April the twenty third, nineteen forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of three hundred and fifty American soldiers, about half

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<v Speaker 2>of the men's ur y Berga, and many of the

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<v Speaker 2>remaining men were close to death. When Anthony was first captured,

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<v Speaker 2>he weighed one hundred and forty nine pounds. By the

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<v Speaker 2>time he was set free, seven the surviving men, including Anthony,

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<v Speaker 2>were taken to hospitals, and by June they were on

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<v Speaker 2>their way back home to the US. But there was

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<v Speaker 2>one condition, one that the former captives didn't quite understand,

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<v Speaker 2>so we.

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<v Speaker 3>Had to sign it up and David where we had

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<v Speaker 3>to swear that we never were in a condition or

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<v Speaker 3>suffered in a condition that we had got through by

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<v Speaker 3>the Germans.

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<v Speaker 2>The war was still going on and the US military

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to keep exactly what went on inside the Nazi

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<v Speaker 2>prison camps a secret, since they had soldiers being held

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<v Speaker 2>as prisoners of war and believed information getting out could

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<v Speaker 2>put them at risk. Some men like Anthony, were told

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<v Speaker 2>they had to sign this document.

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<v Speaker 3>They threatened us to be jailed federally by the United

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<v Speaker 3>States government.

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<v Speaker 2>The National Security or not. For the men who survived Burka,

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like they were being told to keep their

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<v Speaker 2>trauma a secret, like they didn't have a choice. So

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony signed the document and for years he didn't talk

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<v Speaker 2>much about what he saw in Berga. After the war,

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony went back to Mexico then settled in California. He

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<v Speaker 2>got married and he started a family, and he worked

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<v Speaker 2>as an engineer in the aerospace industry for many years.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's his son, fer Nando A. Savedo.

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<v Speaker 7>I just remember sitting at the table and it was

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<v Speaker 7>being a kid that's real picky about what they're eating.

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<v Speaker 7>And I just remember my dad stating when I would

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<v Speaker 7>leave the edges of the bread when I was a

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<v Speaker 7>prisoner a war, that's all I had to eat, And

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<v Speaker 7>that just stuck with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Fernando is one of Anthony's four children, and he says

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<v Speaker 2>his father did a pretty good job of hiding what

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<v Speaker 2>he'd been through.

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<v Speaker 7>If you look at my dad in those years, you

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<v Speaker 7>could not tell he had gone through anything that was

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<v Speaker 7>an extreme in nature, because I mean, he hid his

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<v Speaker 7>PTSD so well.

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<v Speaker 2>Still, it was impossible to hide everything.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, my dad would just take off, he'd be gone,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know where he went. And then I'd hear

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<v Speaker 7>my mom go out there and it's like where everybody go.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I'll see you out there and I hear

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<v Speaker 7>my dad crying. I would see my mom massage in

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<v Speaker 7>the back of his head and I would ask, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>what's wrong with what's wrong with Poppy? And she would

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<v Speaker 7>say he's going through something traumatic. And then my dad

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<v Speaker 7>would say, I'll be okay, I'll be okay. And that

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<v Speaker 7>happened often.

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<v Speaker 2>Fernando also remembers how at home his father always kept

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<v Speaker 2>his war diary on the nightstand. It was small and

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<v Speaker 2>greenish gray, with a red outline of a lion and

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<v Speaker 2>the words a wartime log on the cover. It was worn,

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<v Speaker 2>a little beat up, like it belonged inside a glass

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<v Speaker 2>case in some museum.

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<v Speaker 7>He had it at the nightstand at the end of

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<v Speaker 7>the hallway, and it was just sitting there.

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<v Speaker 2>For Fernando and his siblings. It was just an old

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<v Speaker 2>book filled with his father's handwriting, some sketches, and a

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<v Speaker 2>few empty pages.

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<v Speaker 7>Even our older brother kind of doodled in the back

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<v Speaker 7>with crowns. Thankfully we didn't mess up all the really

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<v Speaker 7>important pages. It was in the back where there was

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<v Speaker 7>just blank pages.

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<v Speaker 2>And for a long time the diary just sat there

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<v Speaker 2>on the nightstand, holding Anthony's secrets within its yellow pages.

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<v Speaker 2>As an adult, Fernando took a job at the same

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<v Speaker 2>company as his father, and eventually, during their long commutes,

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<v Speaker 2>his dad told him the story about what he went

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<v Speaker 2>through about World War two, about getting captured Berga. But

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<v Speaker 2>since the story of the soldiers at Burga hadn't been

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<v Speaker 2>officially recognized by the US Army, even though ANTHONYA started

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about it here and there with people at

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<v Speaker 2>work or at the veterans hospital, many didn't believe him.

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<v Speaker 7>Throughout my years, I do remember my father telling me,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, he would shake his head and he felt

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<v Speaker 7>very hurt.

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<v Speaker 5>He was very hurt.

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<v Speaker 7>Even the amount and the extremness of his PTSD, people

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<v Speaker 7>would even question that.

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<v Speaker 2>Fernando knew his father's story needed to be told and

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to share it on a larger scale. In two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and six, he reached out to CNN, and two

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<v Speaker 2>years later his father did a public interview.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, I can't believe this. Nobody knows about us.

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<v Speaker 3>At eighty four as all who shares the diary, no

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<v Speaker 3>one was supposed to see. Two more of our men

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<v Speaker 3>died today and while lost last night makes three.

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<v Speaker 2>As a result, one man named Martin Vogel found out

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to his brother Jack, who was in Burgo

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<v Speaker 2>with Anthony and died there.

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<v Speaker 4>My brother was a year and a half older than

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<v Speaker 4>I was, but we were very, very close. He had

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<v Speaker 4>finished two years of college. The draft board called him

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<v Speaker 4>and said, your name has come up. You have to

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<v Speaker 4>go into the army. And by the time I was eighteen,

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<v Speaker 4>I went into the army, and when I came home

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<v Speaker 4>they told me that my brother had died in a

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<v Speaker 4>prisoner of Rock camp.

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<v Speaker 2>And for sixty three years Martin had no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to his brother, But when he read that CNN article,

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<v Speaker 2>he saw that Anthony wrote his brother's name and his

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<v Speaker 2>diary as one of the deaths in.

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<v Speaker 5>Berga Vogel, April ninth, nineteen forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the first time, after years of searching, that

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<v Speaker 2>he finally learned about his brother's final moments. His brother

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<v Speaker 2>had died in Anthony's arms. Martin still finds it hard

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about his brother.

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<v Speaker 4>It brings back memories. After all, we only lived He

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<v Speaker 4>was nineteen when he went into the service, and we

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<v Speaker 4>had only nineteen years together. So it wasn't that long,

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<v Speaker 4>but we had a wonderful relationship. Just talking about it now,

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<v Speaker 4>I find it difficult to continue a coherent conversation because

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<v Speaker 4>I get so upset.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony's diary also caught the attention of Kira Schuster, a

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<v Speaker 2>curator at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, who reached

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<v Speaker 2>out to him.

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<v Speaker 8>And that was a big part of why I did

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<v Speaker 8>reach out to them, was because I wanted to see

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<v Speaker 8>if maybe we could acquire his diary for our permanent collection,

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<v Speaker 8>because at that point we had no original artifacts in

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<v Speaker 8>our permanent collection from the Burke Camp.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty ten, Anthony and his family visited Washington, d c.

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<v Speaker 2>And he formally donated the items he saved from his captivity,

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<v Speaker 2>a red cross armband, a small palm cross, a Catholic

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<v Speaker 2>prayer book, some personal photographs, and most importantly, his diary.

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<v Speaker 2>The museum has more than two hundred diaries in its collection,

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<v Speaker 2>but this diary, it was the first written by an

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<v Speaker 2>American born survivor of a concentration camp.

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<v Speaker 3>I speak for all my buddies, it with her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I do this with honor. I turned this over to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Halla Fartusium Kira says the donation received quite a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of press and led to many other survivors of Berga

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<v Speaker 2>or their families also donating materials, including three other diaries

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<v Speaker 2>from the camp. During his visit, Kira introduced Anthony to

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<v Speaker 2>a Holocaust survivor who was a volunteer at the museum.

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<v Speaker 8>And so I introduced the two of them, and he

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<v Speaker 8>was so taken aback and surprised, and he looked at

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<v Speaker 8>me and he was like, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 8>introducing me to her. I've never met a Holocaust survivor before.

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<v Speaker 8>And I said, but you're a Holocaust survivor.

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<v Speaker 2>But until that moment, he never thought of it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a sensitive topic. Who should be considered a Holocaust

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<v Speaker 2>survivor and who isn't. So many suffered during the war,

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<v Speaker 2>but the prisoners of war held at the Burga concentration

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<v Speaker 2>Camp were used as slave laborers, and their living conditions

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<v Speaker 2>were so horrific that scholars consider them survivors of the Holocaust.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony registered as a Holocaust survivor in twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 8>And I can confirm Tony was the first Mexican American

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<v Speaker 8>Catholic Holocaust survivor to register with the museum.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Azevedo died on February eleventh, twenty eighteen. He was

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<v Speaker 2>ninety three. Before Anthony shared his story in a big way,

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<v Speaker 2>he visited a local school in California and spoke to

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<v Speaker 2>a group of junior high students about his experience in

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<v Speaker 2>a Nazi concentration camp. It was one of the first

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<v Speaker 2>times he shared his story, and he was taken aback

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<v Speaker 2>that the students they didn't really know anything about the

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<v Speaker 2>soldiers held at Berga.

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<v Speaker 3>You see tears coming down. It affects them, but they

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<v Speaker 3>all say, why didn't my father tell me about this?

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<v Speaker 3>And why did my grandma didn't tell me about this?

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<v Speaker 3>Why didn't the school tell us about this?

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony's own story came close to not being included in

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<v Speaker 2>this history until, with the help of a little gray

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<v Speaker 2>green diary and a fountain pen, he wrote himself.

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<v Speaker 1>In In two thousand and nine, a year after Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>did a public interview with CNN, the US Army finally

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<v Speaker 1>recognized that three hundred and fifty soldiers held as prisoners

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<v Speaker 1>at Berga sixty four years later. This episode was produced

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<v Speaker 1>by Janis Yamoca and edited by Annie Avilis. It was

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<v Speaker 1>mixed by Stephanie Lebau. The Latino USA team also includes

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