1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travison buck Sexton 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: all of you as we get rolling on the Thursday 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: edition of the program. And speaking of rolling, also flying, 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: there are a lot of things to get into. Inflation 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: seven point nine percent came out this morning, a forty 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: year high. We've already got all sorts of crazy explanations 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: out there. We'll be joined by Senator Ron Johnson of 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: Wisconsin at twelve thirty eastern. At one thirty eastern, Bill 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: Roggio will break down the on the ground war that 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: is taking place in Ukraine right now, and then at 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: two thirty eastern will be joined by Senator Ted Cruz 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: of Texas. So lots coming in that direction. We've got 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: the Bill down in Florida, and the feud that is 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: going on with Disney, the ongoing war in Ukraine. But Buck, 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: I am so mad. It's rare that I come on 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: the show angry. But in the last hour, the Biden 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: administration has extended for another month the requirement that you 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: wear a mask on airplanes, on trains, in airports, on 20 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: public transit, according to no scientific basis in logic whatsoever 21 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: anyone who has been and I'm going to focus on 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: airplanes because I think that is where much of the 23 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: angst and ire is directed now. But Buck, the only 24 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: place you now have to go in much of the 25 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: country and wear a mask is an airport, and on 26 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: an airplane. It is nonsensical, it is anti science. The 27 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: masks do absolutely nothing at all. This was set to 28 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: expire on March the eighteenth, and it now has been 29 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: extended until I presume April the eighteenth. I think that 30 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: the Biden administration is going to get destroyed over this, 31 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: because we know in Congress we saw the state of 32 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: the Union. Nobody wears masks anymore, even in schools, as 33 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: dumb as it has been, kids are now not required 34 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: to wear masks most places now, either in the near 35 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: future or it's already happened. Are you as angry as 36 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: I am about this nonsensical rule being extended. I'm furious 37 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: and also kind of break out into laughter at the 38 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: same time, because these libs are morons. I mean, they 39 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: really are. This is now Moronville. This is not I disagree, 40 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: this is not there's good faith. Let's all sit down 41 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: and look at the data and the numbers. This is 42 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: impossibly stupid. I mean, can we please try to get 43 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: Pete Buddha Judge mayor Pete of the Transportation Administration, assuming 44 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: he's not still on paternity leave, can we get him 45 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: to come on the show. I would love to hear. 46 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: You know, he didn't he go to Harvard yell or something. 47 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure he thinks he's really smart. Please try to 48 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: defend this somebody. I'd love to have Will Lenski or 49 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Fauci come on. They would get annihilated and they know it, 50 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: and that's why they won't. Actually, somehow this is a 51 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: policy that no human being can defend without looking like 52 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: an abject fool. But it's still the policy of the 53 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: Biden administration. Pr Lady Jensaki is going to be coming 54 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: forward to say, yeah, we still just need to keep 55 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: everybody safe. And they're all these Democrat idiots who are 56 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: seeing the country fall apart around them in a whole 57 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: variety of ways. We're gonna say, yeah, it's real safe 58 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: on the planes, now, what is wrong with them? Clay? 59 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: What percentage of our lives do we spend? You and 60 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: I fly a fair amount, Yeah, less than one percent 61 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: of our lives are spent on the plane. Our planes 62 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: a uniquely dangerous environment for the spread of COVID. No, 63 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: in fact, we know the science says because of the 64 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: HEPA filters in the planes, they are uniquely safe place 65 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: to be gathering when it comes to respiratory viruses. And 66 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: yet I'm gonna be in crowded bars, Clay, I'm going 67 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: to a crowded bar this weekend. I'm gonna be elbow 68 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: to elbow with New Yorkers telling them to move to Florida, 69 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be mask free. What possible epidemiological justification 70 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: for this can there be? So I kind of laugh 71 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: because they look so stupid, But I'm also I go 72 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: back and forth because I'm also furious because this just 73 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: shows what a joke this whole thing was for two years. 74 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: It's also arbitrary and moronic. American Airlines and Southwest Airlines 75 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: both had their CEOs testify that the mask mandate made 76 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: no sense. They said that under oath in Congress, specifically 77 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: citing the extreme air filtration systems that exist in airplanes, 78 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: I want someone to explain to me, and by the way, 79 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: I presume that this means also if you take an 80 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: uber or you take a lift that they'll technically still 81 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: have their policy in place that you have to wear 82 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: a mask in those vehicles. By the way, I want 83 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: someone to explain to me why the only place in 84 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: my city that there is even the mention of a mask. 85 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get on an airplane flight to Florida 86 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: as soon as we finish the show today Buck. Like 87 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: this afternoon, I'm going to head to the airport. I'm 88 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: going to pull up at the airport and I am 89 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: going to get out of my car, put a mask 90 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: on as I walk into the airport, and then I'm 91 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: going to be required basically to keep that mask on 92 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: until I get to Florida and step outside of the 93 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: airport and can take the mask off again. What sense 94 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: can this possibly make from a scientific basis? In the 95 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: city of Nashville, and I know there are many other 96 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: airports just like this. I will walk past Buck the 97 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: indoor dining area where they have a where they have 98 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: a bar set up that looks out into the main 99 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: terminal of the airport. You can high five people as 100 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: they are walking by. People drinking beer, eating food. They're 101 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: not wearing masks. You could if you wanted to, you 102 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: got your girlfriend or your wife, husband, whatever, you could 103 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: walk over and you could kiss them right there. As 104 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: they are said, there's no barrier, there's no wall. They're 105 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: looking right out into the middle of the airplane terminal. 106 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: At a minimum, Look, I think it's insanely stupid that 107 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: there are masks anywhere. But what basis is there for 108 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: a mask mandate in the airport? Like, it doesn't make 109 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: any sense in the airport, It doesn't make any sense 110 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: in the airplane, but at least you're tightly corralled in 111 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: an airplane. I'm so angry at this process. If they 112 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: just said you only have to put a mask on 113 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: in the airplane, I would be like, well, whatever, at 114 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: least you don't have to wear one in the stupid airport. 115 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: I just it rarely has get to the point where 116 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm in where I'm furious over a decision. There's no 117 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: way to justify this, and the only way I have 118 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: any sort of solace on it, buck is it just 119 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: further cements the absolute destruction that we have to see 120 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: in November. Every single person listening right now, you have 121 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: to go vote based on the COVID lies that you 122 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: have been told by the Democrats, and you have to. 123 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: We have to put forward maximum pain, utter destruction, because Buck, 124 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: they're going to bring all this back. I really do 125 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: believe if they can as soon as we are through 126 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: with the mid terms. I really legitimately believe as we 127 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: get into winter and fall, they're going late fall and 128 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: into winter they're going to try to bring back Masks 129 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: if they haven't already done it. Their narrative for all 130 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: of us is that the vaccines were great and they 131 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: did a great job, and the mandates were necessary and 132 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: that's what got us through the winter. Now they're a 133 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: little quiet about it, because that's also absolutely absurd. The 134 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: vaccines were fun well, Lenski even admitted far less effective 135 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: than they thought, which you know, Clay, I mean, I 136 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: see to you know what, Alse, I'm furious about you 137 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: and I have been right about this, and honestly I'm 138 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: not just saying this. Clay and I were talking about 139 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: this is you know you can go back, we'll pull 140 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: some of the tape. I think you came on my 141 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: show in April, on the Bucks Section show in April 142 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: to talk about this and you're like, yeah, Masks, this 143 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: doesn't this is idiocy, and I'm like, yeah, Clay, great 144 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: to have you on masks. They're so stupid. Yeah. Somehow 145 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: we now on Spotify, which you know is just overrun 146 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: with leftist children. Yeah, Joe Rogan as you get banned. Yeah, 147 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: there's such babies. Somehow over there we're listed, as you know. 148 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Basically they put this for more on every podcast now, 149 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: for more information about COVID, for more information about COVID board. 150 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: They should be putting Clay and Bucker right, Clain Bucker right, 151 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: Clain Bucker right. But this is all part of the 152 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: Soviet style rewriting of history that's going on right now. 153 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: And these are the same people who will say, yeah, 154 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm asking up on planes. It's really smart, keeps its 155 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: safe because people are morons and they think they're smart, 156 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: which is the worst part about it. They actually think 157 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: they're smarter than the people who have been right all along. 158 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: We are tagged on Spotify as though we're spreading I mean, 159 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 1: they're not blocking it, right, because then they'd have to 160 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: actually specify what. But they're kind of warning everybody, oh, 161 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: don't listen to this. You might you might get red 162 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: pilled by reality if you listen to this show. I 163 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: just and look, we're gonna get into inflation in Ukraine 164 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: and everything else. But this news just breaking in the 165 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: last hour or so, and I don't think it's even 166 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: been officially officially announced yet. I just I hope what 167 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: percented This is a good question. What I would love 168 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: to see a poll of the American public that is 169 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: being taken right now. What percentage of Americans buck do 170 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: you think agree with us that it is absurdly ridiculous 171 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: to require and by the way, a mask mandate on 172 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: an airplane, if you truly believe masked work, you're wrong. 173 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: But you can still wear a mask. It's not like 174 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: they're banning the use of masks. If you truly believe 175 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: that they work, you can wear them. I think it's 176 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: probably seventy thirty. Now do you think we're there? I 177 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: think so, But Clay, I also want to make sure 178 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,239 Speaker 1: that we are we are clear the policy on airplanes. 179 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: And you and I have just done a lot of 180 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: flying recently, and some of the other folks listening this 181 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: will know we're talking. I know, we got like pilots 182 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: who listened to us and flight attendant to agree with us. 183 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: By the way, because coming up to me. Now, Yeah, 184 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: the pilots give me the thumbs up in the wing. 185 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: They're like, don't worry about believe beneath the nose, there's 186 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: no big deal. So but but it's not actually mask 187 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: up on planes. It is mask up between bites on planes. Yeah, 188 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: and we all know it. So for thirty minute stretches 189 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: at a time, you're actually totally just breathing normally in 190 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: the air, but all of them in a mask up. 191 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: The official federal government policy right now is to make 192 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: people mask up between bites in the airport and on 193 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: airplanes to protect them from a virus that the country 194 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: just got wrecked by. Half the country just got it, basically, 195 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: And they act like they're the people who believe in science. No, 196 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: they're the people who believe that just having male genitalia 197 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: doesn't make you male. I mean, you know, this is 198 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: this is who we're dealing with the whole time that 199 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: you're drinking well and the whole time that you are 200 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: physically chewing it. Really is maybe the dumbest thing in 201 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: our lives that adults have been made to do, right 202 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: when your kids sometimes you have to do, like can 203 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: you think of anything you're forty. Now, can you think 204 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: of anything dumber that you've ever been made to do 205 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: than the masking rules? You kind of gently welcome me 206 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: into the forty plus, by the way, forty club, because 207 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: you can and you're over forty. You know you actually 208 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: you've got two generations now of experience on this planet. 209 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: I can't think of anything dumber that we have made 210 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: adults do in my life that is masking. It is debasing, 211 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: and I actually think at some level that's the point. 212 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: It's humiliating, and it's it's forced humiliation of the public 213 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: at the whim of the federal autocrats and the federal 214 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: bureaucracy and the apparatus. And I think that's the point. 215 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: It's it's meant to show you you do what we say, 216 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: you do what our most hysterical left wing base demands 217 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: when we have the power to make you do it, 218 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: and you shut up about it, no matter how dumb 219 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: it is. It's it's humiliating, honestly. I mean, I'm and 220 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: people who have massed shame other people should hang their 221 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: heads in infamy for all time for being such dumbasses. Honestly, yes, 222 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: I agree with all of that and more. 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Pure Talk is simply smarter Wirelet we'll welcome 243 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. You're joined by 244 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: the man that Wisconsin has to send back to the Senate. 245 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson and Senator Johnson, appreciate you joining us. 246 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: You just teed off on the Biden administration policies and 247 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: how they've weakened the US and emboldened adversaries. Let me 248 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: play for you and then I'll bring in. It's in 249 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: those early days the Biden administration when he canceled the 250 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: Keystone XO pipeline, opened up our borders. You started pushing 251 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: for uncontrolled depths of spending, which has sparked seven half 252 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: percent inflation of forty year high. All these policy decisions 253 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: have weakened America. It's emboldened our enemies. It's basically tempted 254 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: to tyrants to take advantage of the situation. So you 255 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: have now a situation where tyrants around the rise and 256 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: we're trying to react. What this administration has done is 257 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: virtually across the board enact policies that have weakened this country. 258 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: Senator Johnson, I want to start with this, the breaking 259 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: news that I'm sure you've seen. The Biden administration is 260 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: extending the mask mandate for federal travel for airplanes, for buses, 261 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: for trains, all these things. You guys just had the 262 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: State of the Union. Nobody wore masks, mask mercifully or 263 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: finally disappearing because they don't work. How moronic is it 264 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: for them to be extending the mask mandate on airplane 265 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: and air travel? Very moronic. I was in that Commerce 266 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: Committee hearing when the airline heads nolly said that they 267 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: didn't make sense, but they talked about the science, and 268 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: they've done extensive studies of an air cabin with Happer 269 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: filters and airline cabins, it's probably one of the cleanest 270 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: breasts of air you're going to take, so you know, 271 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: it's completely ridiculous. But I think what it really shows 272 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: is that the people who have pushed all this on 273 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: America will never admit they're wrong, And this is one 274 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: of the ways they, I guess, confirmed that they weren't wrong. 275 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: They continue it even though it's completely moronic. Senator, it's buck. 276 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: I gotta say, when do you think they're actually gonna 277 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: stop with all that madness? Is it going to go away? 278 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: Or could you foresee them saying just to be on 279 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: the safe side, as if that makes any sense, They'll 280 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: keep this going all the way up perhaps to the 281 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: midterm election. Yeah again, I think you know party reaction 282 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: is this helps confirm the fact in their minds and 283 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: hopefully for the public in their minds that they were 284 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: never wrong, that they've been right all along, and they 285 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: just need to do this just to make it that 286 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: much safer. You know, what is really a tragedy about 287 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: how they've responded to covids relates to masses. You know, 288 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: I don't care how good an mighty ninety five masks 289 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: might might work if you change out three or four 290 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: times a day type fitting out an adult, I'll tell 291 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: you where it would never work. It's not a child. 292 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: Have you Have you seen children wear masks? But this 293 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: was obvious from the start that mass would never work 294 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: on children, no matter how effective they might be on 295 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: an adult or healthcare worker, they would never work on children. 296 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: And yet we made our children do this for two years. 297 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: Delay speech denied them the ability to read the expression 298 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: on their teacher's face, to smile the classmates. I mean 299 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: the harm we have caused our children that we've put 300 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: them into. We've plunged them into a state of fear 301 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: with immature minds. I mean what we have done to 302 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: our children is a travesty, which is one of the 303 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: reasons the people who have voiced this honest, the COVID cartels, 304 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: the COVID gods, they can't afford to be proven wrong. 305 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: And I've said this in the past. They have the 306 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: power because they are the legacy media, they are the 307 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: big tech social media giants, they are you know, the 308 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: big farm and everybody else. They've got the power to 309 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: make it very difficult that they can be proven wrong. 310 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: I mean, let's face you, guys are outliers. You talk radio. 311 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: I wish every American listen to you, but they don't. 312 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: They listen. They listen to the legacy media. That's where 313 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people get the news. And we still 314 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: have a lot of our fellow citizens in this state 315 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: of fear that they whipped up, and they've been very 316 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: effective at maintaining the state of fear. Well, we appreciate 317 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: all the people listening in the state of Wisconsin, including 318 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 1: Milwaukee where we're number one right now, and they need 319 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: to make sure they get out and work to ensure 320 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: that you get reelected because you're speaking the truth and 321 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: so many people are spreading lies, speaking of lies. Seven 322 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: point nine percent inflation rate now, Senator, and the Biden 323 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: administration is shifting all the blame now and they're saying, hey, 324 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: the reason this is occurring is because of Vladimir Putin. 325 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: What do you think of the shifting blames as to 326 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: why we are at a forty year high for inflation? 327 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: Those total bs but it's expected, It's obviously not true. 328 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: We had gasoline prices up over a buck before. Food 329 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: never invaded Ukraine. This is the results of their warren 330 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: fossil fuel. And you canceled the key Start XL pipeline. 331 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: G do you think that's going to reduce the price 332 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: of energy? This is the this is the result of 333 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: their policies, this is their policy goal that they have 334 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: a war on fossil fuel. You know, you listen to 335 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: the clips, the video clips of Joe Biden, you're in 336 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: the campaign. He was absolutely dedicated to ending the use 337 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: of fossil fuels. So when you when you have an 338 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: economy dependent on fossil fuel, you restrict the ability for 339 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: people to produce fossil fuel, what do you think's going 340 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: to happen to the price And you just mentioned the 341 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: seven point nine stent inflation rate. That's accelerating. It's not 342 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: going away because the price of energy flows through every product, 343 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: and it's to a certain extent the product price is 344 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: a lagging indicator. The cost of housing went up over 345 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: the last twelve months. The rents are just being changed. 346 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: Now that's going to spark additional inflation. So this isn't 347 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: going away anytime soon. Of course, then just a massive 348 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: deaths of spending. The Democrats still are proposing. And here's 349 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: how much the presses in the tank for the Democrats. 350 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: They're pretty well parroting what Biden says. Yeah, you know, 351 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: the solution to inflation, build back better. Let's do some 352 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: more deaths of spending. This is beyond absurd, beyond moronic. 353 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: We're speaking Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. Senator, how concerned 354 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: are you that this Biden administration could get dragged further 355 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: into the Craine conflict than is wise and we could 356 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: find ourselves in an open conflict with Russia. It seems 357 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: like the no fly zone idea has gotten pushed back 358 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: from this White House, but people are still concerned. How 359 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: how worried are you that they're going to mishandle this 360 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: or what do you think happens here. Well, Unfortunately, I 361 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: agree with the President Obama's Defense Secretary, Robert Gates, who 362 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: said that Joe Biden was wrong and every major foreign 363 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: policy issue for the last forty years and his record 364 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: remains unbroken. Peace surround himself the exact same advisors who 365 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: were advising in probably those forty years as well. So 366 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: I've got a great deal concern he obviously didn't respond 367 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: appropriately to try and prevent Pouting from invading Ukraine, that 368 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: that would have been a successful response. It's pretty galling 369 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: in the state of the unions basically taking a victory lamp, laughing. Hey, 370 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: look at look at the coalition people that are now 371 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: supporting Ukraine once it's been invaded. No, that our European 372 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: allies are just waking up to the fact that Russia's 373 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: that much closer to their doorstep, and all of a 374 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: sudden they're reevaluating their policies as relates to their own defense. 375 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: So you only have to look at what he's doing 376 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: crawling to Iran. You realize the US is not negotiating 377 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: directly with the Iran they refused to meet with us. 378 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: We're actually having Russia and China negotiate on our behalf. 379 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: So you think that's maybe perceived as weakness by Russia. 380 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: You think maybe that's one of the many factors that 381 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: played into the Putin's calculation. Said, Yeah, this might be 382 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: a good time to invade Ukraine because America and the 383 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: West are weak. Senator John said, what do you expect 384 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: to happen with the Build Back Better? I know that 385 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: it's been tabled because of Joe Manchin, but you made 386 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: an important point there that there are arguments still being 387 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: trotted out that by using parts of the Build Back 388 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: Better agenda they could they could try and reduce inflation, 389 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: which is total nonsense. But do you think that there 390 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: is likely to still be a big domestic spending bill 391 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: rolling out between now and an election season, or do 392 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: you think the Democrats are going to end up acknowledging 393 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: that they really can't get much more done. Where are 394 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: we based on your analysis of Senate movement, Well, here's 395 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: my concern is they don't want to be perceived as failing. 396 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: They all want to spend money, and they all want 397 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: to increase Americans taxes, and so I'm concerned that they 398 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: just might find in their own minds a sweet spot 399 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: where they can raise people's taxes enough to allow for 400 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: just enough spending. Call it desk at neutral and go 401 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: ahead and pass something like that. So I'm highly concerned 402 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: about that. But you know what, one thing I do 403 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: want all of your listeners understand that inflation is the 404 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: Democrat tax on the middle class, on the working middle class. 405 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: No doubt as much as Joe Biden said he's going 406 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: to increase taxes on anybody, No, this is the Democrats 407 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: tax on the middle class, on every American. Senator Ron Johnson, 408 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Senator, thanks so much for coming by, Clay and 409 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: Buck Show. Appreciate it. Jay I mentioned my website Ron 410 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: Johnson for Senate dot Com. I'm gonna need a lot 411 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: of help. 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We were united in 442 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: strengthening our security assistance to Ukraine for its heroic defenders. 443 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: Were united and increasing our assistance the people of Ukraine 444 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: for suffering grievously due to the growing Humaniterranean catastrophe inflicted 445 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: upon them by Moscow's invasion. And for united in our 446 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: efforts to raise the costs on the Kremlin for waging 447 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: this ongoing more choice which is already displaced more than 448 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: two million Ukrainians. That was the official narrative from the 449 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: Secretary of State under Biden, Tony Blinkin about what's going 450 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: on and the unity in the Transatlantic relationship. Welcome back 451 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: to clay Ane Buck. We've got our friend Bill Roggio 452 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: joining us now. He's a senior fellow at the Foundation 453 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 1: for Defense of Democracies, editor of the Long War Journal, 454 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: and a US Army veteran. Bill grit to have you on. 455 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, it's a pleasure. What do we 456 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: need to know about the fighting right now in Ukraine? 457 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: How is this conflict playing out right now? Yeah, Look, 458 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: I think the common narrative that we're hearing is the 459 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: Russians installed, they're bogged down, they're demoralized. But I always 460 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: say the map doesn't lie when you look at the 461 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: map of the Russian advances. From day one, they've taken 462 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: significant territory in they're prepared to surround Kiev, the capitol. 463 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: They've they're in the process of encircling Ukrainian troops in 464 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: the north, in the east, and in the south and 465 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: the south they're close to fully taking control the strategic 466 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: Black Sea territory. This is where Ukraine uses to export 467 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: its food and other exports. So and they're advancing there. 468 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: It looks like they're prepared to insert again to encircle 469 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: Kiev and then link up from the south to the north. 470 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: That's it's a long process. This doesn't This doesn't happen 471 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: in days. This is a military operation that is unfolding, 472 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: and so the Ukrainians are in danger of losing half 473 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: their country. They're in danger of being encircled locally again 474 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: in areas in the It's already happened in areas in 475 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: the east and in the south, but it's in danger 476 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: of losing literally half of its country. If the unit, 477 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: the units that are in and around Kiev can link 478 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: up with the units in the south, and I'm seeing 479 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: that develop on the map. You know, Look, it's a 480 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: question of whether can the Russians hold this that's a 481 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: separate question. But what I'm seeing in that is the 482 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: Ukrainians who are fighting valiantly and harder than anyone, including 483 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: the Russians that thought, but they're still losing this war. 484 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: What's the time frame here, Bill? I mean you talked 485 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: about what the Russian strategy is and that it's taking 486 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: longer than they may have anticipated. Obviously, we're still in 487 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: the middle of bitter winter cold in Ukraine as it 488 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: starts to warm up as spring arrives. What do you 489 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: anticipate this battle looking like going forward based on what 490 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: you've seen so far. Yeah, there's a lot of known 491 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: unknown skire and one if the capital caltipulates, if Zalinski 492 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: government flees, this can wrap up in the course of weeks. 493 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: I think I'm looking at timelines of a couple of 494 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: months here. It's they're they're always difficult to project out 495 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: into the future. There's a lot of factors. Do the 496 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: Russians lose heart, do they their logistic issues that they 497 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: unable to overcome, Logistical issues and supply, you know, in 498 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: other issues. But you know, it's we have to remember 499 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: it took the United the US military forty two days 500 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: to conquer Iraq. It took them three weeks to enter Baghdad. 501 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: I don't understand why we expect, you know, I see 502 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: a lot of reporting, you know, in the common narratives 503 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: the Russians didn't take Kiev in two days, and therefore 504 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: they failed. But what I saw them do is launch 505 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: a planned operation and they're plotting through in the Russian manner. 506 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: It's it's not pretty, but it's it is moving forward. 507 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: So I put you know again, it just depends on 508 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: how long Kiev could hold out, if it's surrounds, and 509 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: if the area round it is encircled, like I think, 510 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: if things continue as is, we're talking months before the 511 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: Russians could take full control or at least encircle the 512 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: eastern half of Ukraine, and that I would draw a 513 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: line south from Kiev all the way to just about 514 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: a desert little area a little bit west. That's a 515 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: significantly areas half over half the size of Texas. Bill 516 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: Roggio with US now senior fellow at the Foundation for 517 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: Defensive democracies, editor of the Long War Journal Bill What 518 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: could really turn the tide here? I mean, what are 519 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: the possibilities you mentioned The Russians logistically collapse, or they 520 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: lose heart, there's some change, palace coup. That's all on 521 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: the Russian side. What are the ways that the Ukrainian 522 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: side could actually shift the momentum here to not just 523 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: slow down, but stall and even reverse the Russian progress. 524 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: The only thing I think that would reverse the Russian progress, 525 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: and I do not advocate this, for this to be clear, 526 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: would be intervention from NATO. The Ukrainians are being ground down. 527 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: They have not conducted any significant counterattacks in order to 528 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: halt the Russian advance. All they can do is conduct 529 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: a fighting retreat and hold onto cities they now. What 530 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: they can do is try and make a play to 531 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: get the Russians to quit the fight. If they burn 532 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: them out, if the Russians again, that's back to the 533 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: Russian side of the equation. The Ukrainians can make those things, 534 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: make it so painful for the Russians that they either 535 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: stop the offensive, halt or advance and keep what they 536 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: have or they know, or actually retreat from the country. 537 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't see that as being highly likely. It would 538 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: take some type of outside intervention in order for the 539 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: Ukrainians to be able to turn the tide and look 540 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: to eject the Russians from the country. Bill, what's the 541 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: impact if the Ukrainians got access to some of these airplanes, 542 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: these fighter jets that have been much discussed as to 543 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: how they might get into Ukraine. But we've certainly seen 544 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: that Russia has air superiority and buy in large the 545 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: Russian The Russian advance has sometimes been very very jumbled 546 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: in terms of you felt like you could just fly 547 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: over and drop a lot of bombs right on those 548 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: guys as they are very closely packed and not in 549 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: any kind of fear of aerial assault. What would the 550 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: impact be if suddenly Ukraine had access to jets? Yeah, 551 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: so it's not just having the fighter planes as being 552 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: able to maintain them. Where are they going to be based? 553 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: Um are their pilot? Do they have enough pilots to 554 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: fly them? They have enough people to maintain them? I 555 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: mean I think they could. Again, they could put a 556 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: hurting on the Russian forces that can blunt or slow 557 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: down the advance. But unless they're going to receive an 558 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: air force that is hundreds upon hundreds of planes, and 559 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: they can they can base them and coordinates and regain 560 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: or releast some type of air parity at the very least, 561 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: and be able to launch sorties against those Russian forces 562 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: that are amassed. I think the impact would be on 563 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: the margins Frankly, Bill Roggio Foundation for Defensive Democracies and 564 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: the long Ward Journal, where he is the editor. Bill, 565 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: appreciate your perspective today, Sarah, thanks for being with us, 566 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, guys great have a great day. 567 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. On nine to eleven, we lost nearly three 568 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: thousand Americans in the deadliest terror attack on American soil. 569 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: The Talleta Towers Foundation has been supporting America's heroes and 570 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: their families ever since. 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That's t the number two 585 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: t dot org. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. 586 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Encourage you 587 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: to go download the podcast. Make sure you don't miss 588 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: a moment. Senator Ron Johnson was on with us in 589 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: the first hour. We were then joined by Bill Roggio, 590 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: who broke down on the ground situation in Ukraine. I 591 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: thought he was pretty fantastic. And we are joined now 592 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: by Senator Ted Cruz of the Great State of Texas, 593 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: where Buck and I were just down almost in your backyard. Senator. 594 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: We had a huge event in Houston, number one in 595 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: the market there and we had an awesome time and 596 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: I understand you're in DC right now with people who 597 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: are continuing to protest, the truckers against all these ridiculous 598 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: COVID restrictions. And I want to start with this question, 599 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: because I'm sure you saw it, Senator, how ridiculous is 600 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: it that the Biden administration has extended for another month 601 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: the requirement that people have to wear masks and airplanes, 602 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: on plane flights, on trains, on all different sorts of 603 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: transportation across the country. It's completely acinine. It makes no 604 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: sense whatsoever, and it continues the COVID theater we've seen 605 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: from Biden in this administration. You know, I'll suggest a 606 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: real simple rule. How about we follow the same mask 607 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: policy that members of Congress followed at Biden's State of 608 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: the Union address last week at five hundred and thirty 609 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: five members of Congress. I don't think there were five 610 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: wearing masks in the entire chamber. It ought to be 611 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: up to you if you want to wear a mask, 612 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: knock yourself out, wear a mask for the rest of 613 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: your life. That's fine, but it's we are beyond the 614 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: point where it makes any sense at all to be 615 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: man dating masks, and we need to end these mass mandates. 616 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: They're wrong, and a long time ago I filed legislation 617 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: to end these government mass mandates. Senator Cruz, it's buck. 618 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: You know, the inflation number that came out today, seven 619 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: point nine percent. We're basically at eight percent inflation, four 620 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: decade high inflation number. This is obviously something that's gonna 621 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: hurt a lot of folks who are just trying to 622 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: pay bills, get through their day to day. And based 623 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: on the commentary from the Biden White House, it seems 624 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: like they're not learning any of the lessons of the 625 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: mistakes they've made. Instead, they're going to double down. So 626 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: is it your expectation that inflation is just going to 627 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: get worse throughout this year and we might even be 628 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: headed into a recession under the Biden presidency. I think 629 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: there is a real risk of that. I'm concerned that 630 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: we are headed towards stagflation that we had under Jimmy 631 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: Carter in the nineteen seventies. And you know, you look 632 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: at a lot of young people, a lot of people 633 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: in their twenties and thirties have never lived where inflation 634 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: was a real factor in life, and it is cruel. 635 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: It hits people It is effectively a tax increase on everybody, 636 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: but especially seniors, especially people on fixed incomes. It is 637 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: a viciously cruel tax because everything you do, whether it's 638 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: paying your rent or paying your mortgage, or filling up 639 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: your car with gas, or buying food, or heating or 640 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: cooling your home, all of them are much much more expensive. 641 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: And Biden is doubling down the same policies. In fact, 642 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: they I think they've cynically decided their new strategy is 643 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: blame everything on Putin. So so they're claiming now that 644 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: all of this inflation, that the massive increase in gasoline prices, 645 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: they say is one hundred percent because of Putin's and 646 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: that's just a flat outlive We had galloping inflation long 647 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: before Putin invaded Ukraine, and it's it's a result with gas, 648 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 1: in particular of the Biden administrations assault on themestic energy production, 649 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: which is driving up the cost of gasoline. Senatoruz, you 650 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: represent Texas, which is the forefront of oil and gas 651 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: all over the nation, and I'm sure as a result 652 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: you talk to a lot of oil and gas executives. 653 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,479 Speaker 1: What do they tell you we should be doing right 654 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: now in order to maximize domestic oil and gas production. 655 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: What should we be doing based on what you're hearing 656 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: from your constituent companies and your constituents, we should get 657 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: back to the policies that we know work and the 658 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: policies that were in place just over a year ago. 659 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: Under the Trump administration. In twenty nineteen, America became energy independent. 660 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: We were the number one producer of oil, the number 661 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: one producer of natural gas in the world. We were 662 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: a net energy exporter. We were producing more oil and 663 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: gas than we consumed last year. In twenty twenty one, 664 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: under Joe Biden, we lost that status. We're now a 665 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: net energy importer. And the reason is simple. When he 666 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: came in, literally the first day in office, he shut 667 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: down the Keystone pipeline that destroyed eleven thousand high paying jobs, 668 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: that destroyed eight thousand union jobs with a stroke of 669 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: a pen. At the same time, he also on that 670 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: first day, froze all new leases on federal lands, both 671 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: on shore leases and off shore leases, that had a 672 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: profound effect. On top of that, he also halted development 673 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: of anmir, a very small section of Alaska that has 674 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: massive petroleum reserves. He shut it down and said, we 675 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: don't want those petroleum reserves. We don't want more oil, 676 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: we don't want more gas. Well, you know, if you 677 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: shut down and the result of all of this is 678 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: the rig count plummeted dramatically. We began drilling much less. 679 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: And this was their stated intention. It's what Biden told 680 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: the radical left he wanted to do if he was president, 681 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 1: and it's what he's done. The answer, we should step 682 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: up and be producing, producing here at home. And by 683 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: the way, one of the first places to start is 684 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: the Biden administration has six different applications pending to export 685 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: liquid natural gas. The State of the Union address, I 686 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: pulled aside Tony blink In, the Secretary of State. I 687 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: told him, if Biden really wants to do something, to 688 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 1: stick it to putin, he ought to today approve all 689 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: six of those applications. We ought to be exporting the 690 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: oil and gas we're developing wet. We ought to be 691 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: drilling more and producing more. That's how you drive down 692 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: gasoline prices. Speaking of Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, Senator, 693 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: war in Ukraine is getting more destructive, more violent, and 694 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: the Russians seem to be gaining ground, slowly, but gaining it. Nonetheless, 695 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: there was some discussion about Miggs being transferred to US 696 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: custody to then be transferred to Ukrainians to fight. What 697 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: do you view as the proper role of the US 698 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: at all this and what do you think should be 699 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: done different than what we've seen so far from the 700 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: White House. Well, we should be doing a lot differently. 701 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: And let me start by pointing out this war didn't 702 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 1: have to happen. This war is the cause of serious 703 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: mistakes from Joe Biden. Two mistakes in particular cause this war. 704 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: Number one, the disastrous withdrawal and retreat from Afghanistan that 705 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: caused every enemy of America to look to Washington to 706 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: take the measure of the man in the Oval Office 707 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: and to conclude that Joe Biden was weak and feckless 708 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: and ineffective. And at the time I said, the odds 709 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 1: of Russia invading Ukraine have increased tenfolds and the odds 710 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: of China invading Taiwan have increased tenfold. But secondly, very 711 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 1: specific mistakes Joe Biden made with respect to Russia and Ukraine. 712 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: You know, Putin didn't wake up yesterday and decide he 713 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: wanted to invade Ukraine. He's wanted to invade Ukraine for decades. 714 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: He wants to reassemble the old Soviet Union, and in fact, 715 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: he did invade Ukraine in twenty fourteen. He marched Russian 716 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: soldiers into Crimea, the southern part of Ukraine. But why 717 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: didn't he invade the rest of the country. And the 718 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: answer is that Russia's major source of revenue is selling 719 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: oil and gas, and the natural gas pipelines run right 720 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: through the middle of Ukraine, and if he invaded Ukraine, 721 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 1: he risked damaging or destroying those pipelines, which would make 722 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: it impossible to get his gas to Europe. Well, the 723 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: next year, Putin began building a pipeline, a pipeline called 724 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: nord Stream two. It's an undersea pipeline that goes directly 725 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: from Russia to Germany and it skips Ukraine. And the 726 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: reason Putin began building nord Stream two was so he 727 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: could invade Ukraine. In twenty nineteen, I authored sanctions legislation 728 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: to shut down nord Stream two. My legislation passed Congress 729 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: with overwhelming bipartisan support, pass the Senate past the House. 730 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump signed it. In the law, Putin stopped building 731 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: Nordstring two. Literally the day that President Trump signed by 732 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: sanctions legislation in the law. For over a year, the 733 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: pipeline was dead for over a year. Putin did not 734 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: invade Ukraine. Then Joe Biden becomes president on January twentieth, 735 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Four days later, Putin resumes building nord 736 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: Stream two with deep sea construction. He did it because 737 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: Biden was weak, and just a few months later, Biden 738 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: formally weighed the sanctions on nord Stream two, giving in 739 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: to Russian Putin. He allowed him to build the pipeline. 740 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: That is why Putin invaded Ukraine. You know this last weekend, 741 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: I had a video conference call with President Zelenski in Ukraine. 742 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: He told me and the other ninety nine senators. He said, 743 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: if Biden had imposed sanctions on Nordstring two, Russia would 744 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: not have invaded Ukraine. So the the Biden White House's 745 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: weakness caused this war. And you ask what they should 746 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 1: do differently. We should be doing two things. Providing lethal 747 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: military weapons to Ukraine to let the Ukrainians defend themselves, 748 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: not American soldiers, the Ukrainians to defend their own homeland. 749 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: And number two, using energy offensively to take away the 750 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: ability of Putin to fund his war machine. We ought 751 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: to be exporting oil and natural gas to Europe, taking 752 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: away his customers. If you take his revenue, you take 753 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 1: away Putin's ability to wage war one morph you, Senator Cruise, 754 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: a no fly zone? Do you support this or do 755 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: you think this is a bad idea. I think it's 756 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: a terrible idea. A no fly zone would be an 757 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: enormous mistake. Why is that because you'd be putting American 758 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: pilots in the in a combat situation with Russian pilots, 759 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: and the last thing anyone should want to see is 760 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: a shooting war between America and Russia. That is a bad, 761 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: bad idea. What we should do, and you know you 762 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 1: mentioned these MiGs. So when we talked to President Zelenski, 763 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: what he said he needed more than anything else is 764 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 1: he Unite needed fighter jets. And he said he needed 765 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,959 Speaker 1: fighter jets because the Russians have superiority in the air 766 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: and a natural place to turn to is Poland, which 767 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 1: has a number of digs old Soviet megs from when 768 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: they were all behind the Iron Curtain, and the Ukrainian 769 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: pilots are trained on the MiGs, so they know how 770 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: to fly them. Poland was happy to send the MiGs 771 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,760 Speaker 1: to Ukraine to let the Ukrainians use them. They wanted 772 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: the Biden administration to commit to helping them backfill and 773 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: making F sixteens available so that Poland was not left defenseless. 774 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: The Biden administration didn't want to do that, and so 775 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: they started playing political games. And what the Biden administration 776 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: said is, well, it's up to Poland whether or not 777 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: to send the MiGs. We have no view on it. 778 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: It's up to Poland. In Poland's a sovereign country, they 779 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: can decide whether or not to send the MiGs. And 780 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: what Biden was doing was blaming Poland for not sending 781 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: the MiGs. Well, Poland day before yesterday called Biden's bluff 782 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: and just flew the MiGs to a US Air Force base. 783 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: So now the Biden administration has the MiGs, and within 784 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: hours the Biden Defense Department said nope, We're not giving 785 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: the MiGs to the Ukrainians. That was what happened was 786 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,479 Speaker 1: Poland called Biden's bluff. I think we ought to give 787 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: those MiGs to the Ukrainians. We ought to have the 788 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: Ukrainians should come in and Ukrainian pilots should fly those 789 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 1: MiGs out. And if the Ukrainian pilots, if they engage 790 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 1: in combat with the Russians, they're at war with them. 791 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: They can engage in combat, but we ought to be 792 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: helping provide the weapons to enable them to fight to 793 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: defend their nations. Send her, Ted Cruz. We appreciate the 794 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,240 Speaker 1: time and we'll talk to you again soon. Thank you, gentlemen, 795 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,479 Speaker 1: God bless thank you. That is Ted Cruz. Come back. 796 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: We'll close out the Thursday edition of the program. 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