1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of The Clay and 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Buck Show underway. Got a lot to get to with you, 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: including this breaking story, breaking news story about a NBC 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: News MSNBC member NBC owned MSNBC. It's the same company 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: employee who allegedly was trying to follow the written house 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: trial jurors in the bus taking them from the courthouse. 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: We want to remind you of just exactly what happened. 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: We've got some updates on that one. This is big 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: stuff because what's going on with this jury right now? 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: Why is it taking so long to come into a verdict? Well, 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: it's because many of us I am in this category, 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Clays in this category think that there is immense pressure 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: that has intentionally been brought to bear by the left 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: wing apper Addison this country of fear and coercion to 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: undermine the jury's ability to reach a verdict based on fact. 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: If they're too terrified for their own safety and their 18 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: family safety, how can this actually be a fair trial. 19 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: Here is the judge, Just so we're all very clear 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: on what happened. Here is the judge in this case, 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: Bruce Schroeder in the Kenosha Courthouse saying, MSNBC, you are banned. 22 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: Last evening, a person who identified himself as James J. 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: Morrison and who claimed that he was a producer with 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: NBC News and played for an MSNBC under the supervision 25 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: of someone named Ivene Bayon in New York for MSNBC. 26 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: The police, when they stopped him because he was following 27 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: in a distance of a black and went through a medlight, 28 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: pulled him over and inquired of him what was going 29 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: on in the gave that information and stated that he 30 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: had been instructed by him is Bayon in New York 31 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:14,279 Speaker 1: to follow the jury bus. The matter is under further investigation. 32 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: At this point, I have instructed that no one from 33 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: MSNBC News will be permitted in this building from the 34 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: duration of this trial. Can I just say, Clay. The 35 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: officers pulled the car over, according to Judge Shorter, this 36 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: is from the New York Times, and the driver said 37 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: he was a producer working with MSNBC and that someone 38 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: who worked for the network in New York had instructed 39 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: him to follow the jurors. That is the quote, Buck, 40 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I am just this is next level. This 41 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: is next level jury level intimidational. Let's break this down. Okay, 42 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: the judge here has already wanted to go full on 43 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: mistrial or a variety of reasons. But this goes to 44 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: the heart of what we have been talking about. Why 45 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: you and I both believe we're in the middle of 46 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: day three of jury deliberation because the evidence here is 47 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: quite clear that Kyle Rittenhouse had, based on video. It's 48 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: not like we're just analyzing what people said based on 49 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: video in conjunction with testimony, had the ability to use 50 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: self defense. In this case, the jury, to me is 51 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: terrified of being doxed, of being outed, of being a 52 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: target of the left wing woke mob, which has decided 53 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: that Kyle Rittenhouse is an evil wrongdoer, a racist school shooter, 54 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: a insidious, awful human being. That's their narrative. This is 55 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: unbelievable to me that you would get caught. MSNBC is 56 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: trying to get all the information on these jurors that 57 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: they can. Why are they doing this? Let me take 58 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: a step back. I think the reason why they're doing 59 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: this is so whenever a verdict is reached or if 60 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: it's a hung jury, that they have the ability to 61 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: try to get the jurors to tell them about what 62 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: went on in deliberation. And a secondary part of this 63 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: is so that they can identify who these jurors are. 64 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: And can you imagine being on this jury right now. 65 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: You're under a high stress environment already, you are being 66 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: driven away from the courthouse and there is a car 67 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: in hot pursuit filled with someone who is reportedly filming you, 68 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: attempting to identify you, figure out who you are, and 69 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be able to render justice without worrying 70 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: about you and your family becoming targets. This is so 71 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: infuriating people. There's there's an additional level here too for 72 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: the jury pool that I'm sure is in their minds, 73 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 1: and it's they know that they're not going to people 74 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: to count on they cannot count. Let's say they're reaching 75 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: not guilty verdict yes, which right now a lot of 76 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: people it's feeling like hung hung jury is where we're 77 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: heading right now for a lot of people. That's what 78 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: I would That's what I would bet on right now. Buck, 79 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: if you were like Clay, set the odds of what's 80 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: going to go on here based on us being now 81 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: in the third day in this case, I would bet 82 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: on a hung jury, which means that they can't reach 83 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: a unanimous verdict. I would bet on, you know, nine 84 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: to three, eight to four, ten to two, maybe even 85 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: eleven to one people wanting to vote not guilty, but 86 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: you can't get a unanimous verdict right now, and therefore 87 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: you have a hung jury. They say we can't. Nobody's 88 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: changing their minds. We've debated this ad infinitem. Nobody's changing 89 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: their minds, and then it would get thrown back on 90 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: the judge who doesn't seem to want to rule for 91 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 1: a mistrial with prejudice, which would end this case. Now 92 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: he's hoping that the jury renders the not guilty verdict. 93 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: I think based on him having set there, I think 94 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: he recognizes this should be a not guilty verdict. And 95 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: then the onus would be on this judge to decide, 96 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: are you going to mistrial this with prejudice? If he 97 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: has to right, hung jury would just mean that they 98 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: would they would have the right to come back. But 99 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: that means judge declare the judge declare it's it is 100 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: a mistrial if if it's a hung jury. Yeah, but 101 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying the mistrial with prejudice ends the case. Does 102 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: he is he willing to render this based on all 103 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: the craziness that's been going on a mistrial with prejudice, 104 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: which would then be a additional level. I mean, so 105 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: it's essentially we get to the is are we going 106 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: to have this whole thing play out again? Which seems 107 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: like if we're at that stage, a distinct possibility. But 108 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: but back to the threat against the jurors, which we're 109 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: all whether there's lots of threats about the judge. Why 110 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: aren't you hearing more about that? There are lots of 111 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: threats against this judge, death threats against him and his family. 112 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: Isn't so interesting when you hear about that in the media, 113 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: and when you don't, of course, almost like the psychotic 114 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: left is going completely insane because they still act like 115 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse is a racist. He shot three white criminals, but 116 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: somehow this is a racist thing with Rittenhouse, or this 117 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: is a I mean really, ultimately, I still believe this 118 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: is just you're not allowed to stand up against the 119 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: left wing mob. Oh that's what that They cannot allow 120 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: people to think. When the left wants to riot, armed 121 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: citizens can say not on my block, not today. But Clay. 122 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: The people that are targeted in this way, who are 123 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: on this jury and now we know there's like this 124 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: journalist who's following them, is clearly stuff going. There's been 125 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: efforts to intimidate them from the very beginning, as soon 126 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: as they were on the jury. They can't even count 127 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: on the corporate media to come to their aid in 128 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: terms of condemning and going, you know, the media. If 129 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: they voted for acquittal and then we're targeted, they know 130 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: media's gonna say, well, you know, they kind of voted 131 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: the wrong way. They don't even have the people who 132 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: are supposed to be supportive of the system and believe 133 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: injustice and all that to catch their back. Because if 134 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: you're a Democrat and there's an acquittal here, you're going 135 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: to say that was injustice and the people who are 136 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: a part of it maybe have to face some of 137 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: their own concerts. They should be held accounts. That's what 138 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: this is about, and it's about intimidation at its most 139 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: basic level. And regardless of what your particular perspective is 140 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: on any case, the idea that a major media organization 141 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: should be stalking effectively jurors like this and should be 142 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: chasing them and running red lights and having the police 143 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: necessitating trying to figure out, hey, what kind of threat 144 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: are these jurors under based on the behavior of this driver, 145 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: and for NBC to not be able to deny it. 146 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: By the way, some of these NBC journalists buck have 147 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: basically ended all of their social media profiles. So the 148 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: people who were named in this by the judge in 149 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: the written house case, many of them are completely wiping 150 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: clean now their social media accounts, which certainly doesn't make 151 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: you look any more innocent when you're just trying to hide. 152 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: So just just so everyone's clear. Also, the way I 153 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: wanted to check to make sure, so if if there's 154 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: a hung jury, yes, there are two options. The judge 155 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: can say go back and don't be a hung jury anymore. 156 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: But that doesn't you know, that's doesn't They're never going 157 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: to change, and then you get a mistrial. It is 158 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: a mistrial if if that there are only two options there, 159 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: it's either mistrial or go back and don't be a 160 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: hung jury anymore. Yeah, And then what we've been debating 161 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: whether the judge is willing to do is take that 162 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: next step and say this is a mistrial with prejudice, 163 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: meaning this case can't be brought anymore. But no, it 164 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: can because they can appeal it at the state lis. 165 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: But usually the trial court judge is granted great discretion 166 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 1: by it's a higher bar the state to have a 167 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: higher standard, of higher standard to overrule him. But you're 168 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: right that that would potentially be appealed and stay in 169 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: the courts, but it would be it's a It would 170 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: be a massive win for Rittenhouse if the trial court 171 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: judge said this is a mistrial with prejudice, because it 172 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: would basically make the state have to overturn and prove 173 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: that he had misruled in making that decision. We'll have 174 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: more on where we are with the Rittenhouse jury deliberations. 175 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: Day three here going on, plus Kamala Harris, the vice 176 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: president no longer the borders are apparently allegedly we don't know, 177 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: I mean, is she is? 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What's the 211 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: reaction if Fox News is chasing the jurors on the 212 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: George Floyd trial, the Derek Chauvin trial and they are 213 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: pulled over by police and banned from the courtroom because 214 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: of potential jury intimidation, they turned up down. I mean, 215 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: you're actually you're talking about a certainty of riots. And 216 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: by the way, not the rioters, but the narrative would 217 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: be that, you know, Fox or whoever followed them would 218 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: be responsible for the riots. That's right. And they would 219 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: also argue every advertiser who spends any money with Fox 220 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: News has to pull out. They don't deserve to be 221 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: carried as a cable network. I just want to contextualize 222 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: you and everybody out there listening. As you see the 223 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: way the MSNBC egregious behavior is covered. Pretend that Fox 224 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: News had done it during the Derek Chauvin trial, and 225 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: think about the way that the media would cover it 226 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: compared to how they're going to cover it with immensity Clay. 227 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Think about the disparity here we have. You know, if 228 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: you're looking at sort of left team right team right, 229 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: left wing versus conservative or right wing and how the 230 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: justice system plays out. A lot of people have been saying, well, 231 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: if Kyle Rittenhow were black, Yes, he would already you know, 232 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: he would have spent all this time in prison. He'd 233 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: be going away for a life. There was the I 234 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: think we actually broke the news when it happened on 235 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: the show. There was a school shooting in Texas and 236 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: a young African American guy, I think he was eighteen. 237 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: It was in high school, shot four people and was 238 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: out on bail within twenty four hours. Seventy five thousand 239 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: dollars bail, which means he had to put forward seventy 240 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars basically, and he's still he's still out. 241 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: He had a celebration when he came home. Yeah, he 242 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: had a party when he came home. Okay, well, then 243 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: let's also look at what happens when you get in 244 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,479 Speaker 1: the crosshairs of the left on a matter of politics 245 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: in the criminal justice system. We had Annie McCarthy on yesterday. 246 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: I know, and he's a fair guy, very smart guy. 247 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: He says, look, four years roughly for the three and 248 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: a half years for QAnon Shaman isn't completely outrageous to 249 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: him considering that he obstructed Congress. I think it's harsh. 250 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that was obvious from my question 251 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: Andy yesterday. But and he was a federal prosecute for 252 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: twenty years. I wasn't, so we have a different view 253 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: of some of these things. But he did also say 254 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: keeping these guys in military confinement is completely by the way, 255 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: keeping them in prison, I mean jail period waiting trial 256 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: is completely unethical. You don't keep people in jail leading 257 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: up to their trial unless they are a flight risk, 258 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: that unless you think they were going to show up 259 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: or a threat. And that's that's actually critical because what 260 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: they've said with the judge that's held some of the 261 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: January sixth defendants, one of the judges in DC has 262 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: said is essentially they could start another insurrection if we 263 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: let them out, as if their coup plotters that are 264 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: going to over as if they started one insurrection. It 265 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: is outrageous that the January sixth defendants have been held 266 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: in custody and in solitary for now eight nine months. Well, 267 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: it's a miscarriage of justice. And imagine I think the 268 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: other direction, Clay, I actually have the the the announcement 269 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: the Poortland District Attorney dropped the charges against over half 270 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: of the people who were just drop chargers entirely federal 271 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: courthouse trying to burn down a federal courthouse. I know, 272 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: I know, I mean, And that's part of the defense 273 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: candidly of the January sixth defendants. And by the way, 274 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: this also ties in with the Department of Justice and 275 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: the FBI potentially going after parents who were showing up 276 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: at school boards and labeling them domestic terrorists. A whistleblower 277 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: inside of the FBI said to the House Judiciary Committee 278 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: and Jim Jordan, Congressman from Ohio, that that is exactly 279 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: what's going on. Jim Jordan is going to be with 280 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: us tomorrow at two o'clock Eastern. You'll be able to 281 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: hear him live on the program, but he said this 282 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: on Fox News and he pointed out, Hey, guy like 283 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: May who went and spoke at his school board, do 284 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: I have an FBI file? Now? Am I considered a 285 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: domestic terrorist? Here's the fundamental question. What's the number? How 286 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: many Americans? How many parents, how many moms, how many 287 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: dads now have this tag, this label put on their name? 288 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: Do these two guys in Texas? Does Clay Travis who's 289 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: showed up at a school board meeting and spoke out 290 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: against policies at his children's school. I mean that's the 291 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: part that's most troubly. I mean there's a lot of 292 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: people out there who did what I did, Buck, and 293 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: maybe have been labeled and investigated as domestic terrorists for 294 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: standing up on behalf of what you believe your school 295 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: should be doing. Don't worry, man, if they send you 296 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: to Getmo up, put out the Buck signal with this audience. 297 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: We'll get together a lot of specialties. You think they 298 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: get to handle me. We will ex fill you out 299 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: of Gitmo in like forty eight hours. You'll be good, Clay. 300 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: We won't leave you behind. We're gonna be joined by 301 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: the way in the next segment by Senator Ron Johnson 302 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: from Wisconsin. And by the way, I'm gonna ask him 303 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: to please run for reelection in Wisconsin because I think 304 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: we need this guy to stay in the Senate. I 305 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: said that earlier in the week on the show. 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Do it 322 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: today Express VPN dot com. Slash Clays, thanks for rolling 323 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: along with us here on the Clay and Buck Show. 324 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: We're joined now by Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin. Senator Johnson, 325 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: thanks for being here. Well, guys, hope you're doing well. Senator. 326 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: You know, the border is a total mess. It's an 327 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: area of policy that you've been focusing in on. You've 328 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: been trying to tell the American people about what's happening there. 329 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: The Vice President formerly the borders are apparently no longer, 330 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: although I don't think there's an official announcement about that. 331 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris was on TV this morning talking about the 332 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: border issue. I wanted I wanted our audience to hear 333 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: it and let you react to it. Well, it's not 334 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: going to be overnight. We can't just flip a switch 335 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: and make it better. The reality is that we inherit 336 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: a system, an immigration system that was deeply broken, and 337 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: it's requiring us to actually put it back together in 338 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: terms of creating a fair process that is effective and efficient, 339 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: but on the causes peace. What we're looking at is that, 340 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: you know, frankly, people don't want to leave home, George. 341 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: And when they do, it's one or two reasons. They're 342 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: fleeing some kind of harm or to stay at home. 343 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: They just simply cannot satisfy the basic needs of their family. 344 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: What do you say to that, Senator, Well, the root 345 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: causes the Biden administration President Biden, Kamala Harris, and they 346 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: did flip a switch the first couple of days in office. 347 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: They completely dismantled the successful policies of the Trump administration. 348 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: They ended return to Mexico policy, They ended the agreements 349 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: we had with the Mexico in Central America. They stopped 350 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: building defense, but we'd pretty well stopped the flow of 351 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: uncompanied children and families exploiting our asylum laws. We're going 352 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: to complete defense, and we were very close to having 353 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: pretty good control over the border, and they blew it 354 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: all up day won They by the way, they knew 355 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: what would happen. Kamal Harris was on my committee when 356 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: I held over thirty some hearings on the border security 357 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: and some aspects of the immigration system. We have the 358 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: broken immigration system that should just come in and just 359 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: ask nasty questions. That's when she accused Ice of basically 360 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: being a like the Ku Klux Klan. So I mean 361 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: she sat in hearings when we were getting testimony that 362 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: they were selling children for eighty one dollars. She understands 363 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: the human depredations of human trafficking, the sex trafficking, the 364 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: flow of deadly drugs. Now we have one hundred thousand 365 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: overdoses last year. This administration knew full well what the 366 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: results are going to be of their disastrous policies. But 367 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: I guess they just had to reverse whatever President Trump did, 368 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: so they flipped the switch. They caused this crisis. It 369 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: is true, it's going to be pretty hard to put 370 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: this genie back in the bottle. But they caused it. 371 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: They are the root cause. Senator Johnson, speaking of root cause, 372 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: there is a mess right now as the jury continues 373 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: to deliberate in Kenosha, Wisconsin, MSNC evidently caught chasing the 374 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: jurors and they've now been banned from the courthouse, got 375 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: National Guard, State Guard calling out, the governor calling out 376 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: support there. How concerned are you about this situation in 377 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: Kenosha and what might happen whenever a verdict comes down. 378 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm highly concerned. I think the governor might have learned 379 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: his lesson. I mean both he and the Lieutenant governor 380 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, when we had the riots, incited the riots, 381 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: they refuse to take President Trump and is offered bringing 382 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: more National Guard troops. They just ignored it. They incited 383 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: the riots. So I guess now they're at least having 384 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: five hundred National Guard troops stand by, which is better 385 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: than nothing. But you know, from my standpoint, one thing 386 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: we have to point out is I don't think we're 387 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: overly concerned about riots. If Kyle's convicted, right, We're concerned 388 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: about riots if he's found not guilty. That's right. And 389 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: the fact the matter is is the violence that we 390 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: fear buying large comes from the left. Not universally so, 391 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: but by and large. That's something the mainstream media will 392 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: never admit. Let's face, they didn't. They didn't board up 393 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: storefront so major Mesh Poulton areas prior to the November 394 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: twenty election in case Joe Biden won. Right once, once 395 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: he was declared the victor, the boarding could come down. 396 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: So let's be honest about this. You know, I condemned 397 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: January sixth. It was repugnant, it was repulse of the violence. 398 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: The racial slurs. But that's an aberration coming from Trump supporters, 399 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: because most most Trump supporters are God fearing, they love 400 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: this country, they respect law enforcement. They wouldn't even think 401 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: about breaking the law or rioting. The rioting, by and 402 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: large comes from the from the left. And we've got 403 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: proof over five hundred seventy riots in the summer, one 404 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: to two billion dollars of property damage, a couple of 405 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: thousand law enforcement officers injured during summer riots, a couple 406 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: couple dozen people died some way, shape or form. But 407 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: that's all swept under the rug in the left in 408 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: the media, which is the same thing they only focus 409 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: on January sixth. We need to be honest and realistic 410 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: about where the real thread of violence is coming from. 411 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: It's coming from the left. We're speaking of Senator Ron 412 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: Johnson of Wisconsin. Senator looks like Pelosi is promising to 413 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: get the Build Back Better bill through the House side. 414 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: What do you what do you think when you're hearing 415 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: the administration and the Democrats all together making claims like 416 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: this is all paid for. There won't be any tax 417 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: raises on anyone making less than four hundred grand, and 418 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: it won't make inflation worse. A general problem with liberals 419 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: is they just deny reality. You know what general human 420 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: nature is. You pay people not to work. Guess what 421 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: they don't work. I mean now, the fact that they're saying, well, 422 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: the way to fix inflation, which is too many dollars 423 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: chasing too few goods, is let's spend more money. Let's 424 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: create more debt and death of spending. Let's mortgage their 425 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: children's future. Further, let's let's even have more dollars chasing 426 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: too few goods. They live in a fantasy world. But 427 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: again I have to point us out. The mainstream media 428 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: props them up. They cover for them, They are complicit 429 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: in this. So this mainstream media that got Joe Biden 430 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: elected by covering up you know, my and Chuck Rassley 431 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: is a report on Hunter Biden. Nothing to see there. 432 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: Don't worry about those foreign financial tangements with China and 433 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: Russia and thirteen other countries. Don't don't don't take you 434 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: look at that. We're gonna We're going to make sure 435 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: we elect this moderate grandfather, live like figure, and he 436 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: he'll heal and unify this nation. Nothing can be further 437 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: from the truth. He's a radical leftist and he's surrounding 438 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: himself with open border radical left socialist Marxist that that's 439 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: what he's doing. Senders John said, I don't follow through 440 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: on this very often, but I said earlier in the week, 441 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you heard it, or anybody 442 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: on your staff might have heard it. We really need 443 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: for you to run for re election in Wisconsin. You're 444 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: a truth teller. I don't know who might replace you, 445 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: but I'm one hundred percent confident they won't be as 446 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: honest and as good at their job as you are. 447 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm giving you my endorsement. I don't even know if 448 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do that. Obviously, I don't live in Wisconsin, 449 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: so I can't vote for you, But will you please 450 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: run for reelection? Well, listen, I appreciate those kind words. 451 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: I am going to be making my decision in the 452 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: next few weeks, and I will tell you that kind 453 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: of encouragement it is impactful. I have to admit. As 454 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: I've traveled around Wisconsin, I'm getting all kinds of encouragement, 455 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: and so I appreciate that we need you. We need 456 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: you because you're willing to fight and so few people 457 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: are willing to fight, and you're willing to fight with facts, 458 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: in particular with COVID. Did you read the Fifth Circuit opinion? 459 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Thank god they stood up and actually stood up for 460 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: the Constitution, but so few people are willing to do that. 461 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: We need you there. What did you think of the 462 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: Fifth Circuit? Well, I breathe a sigh of relief. I mean, 463 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: these mandates are going to be so destructive. I mean 464 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: forcing people into just gut wrenching, life altering decisions for 465 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: no reason. Most of the vaccine were heart cent effective 466 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: and safe. I could understand it, but they're unfortunately not. 467 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: And of course by saying that I'm going to get 468 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: censored by YouTube because I'm I'm telling the truth. Of course, guys, 469 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: if I if I do run, it literally be a 470 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: contest between the media, the social media and the truth 471 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: and be a knockdown, drag out. Let's face it, they've 472 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: got a lot of power. They'll never admit they're wrong, 473 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: and they have the power to pretty well guarantee they're 474 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: never proven wrong. So I will need a lot of 475 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: help in support if I do run. Senator Ron Johnson 476 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: and Wisconsin Sir, we always appreciate you swimming by the 477 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: clan Buck Show. Thanks for being here with us. Have 478 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: a great day. Say when you announce your running you 479 00:27:51,480 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: can come back on. We need you, sir, I hear you, bitch. 480 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: Missus Johnson probably gets to say this withou clado, so 481 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: I'll love to see the Tunnel the Towers Foundation is 482 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: making the holidays brighter for our nation's gold star and 483 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: fallen first responder families with young children. For many of 484 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: these families, the holidays are a tough reminder of the 485 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: sacrifice their hero made for us. The Foundation is giving 486 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: away one or more homes a day from Thanksgiving through 487 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve during its season of Hope. 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Think about the impact that 497 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: you guys have had supporting America's greatest heroes and their families. 498 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: And for those of you who haven't signed up yet, 499 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: you can donate eleven dollars a month to Tunnel the 500 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: Towers at t twot dot org. That's t the number 501 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: two t dot org. Second Clay Travis Fuck Sexton show. 502 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: I believe then I'm gonna make it through. But I 503 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: sound like I'm gonna die, don't know. Yeah, it's all. 504 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: It's all about Honey lemon Tea, Clay, That's what I'm 505 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: gonna be all. I'm going straight to the Honey lemon Tea. 506 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: And you know what's funny, Buck is before the Patriot Awards, 507 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: everybody who was there for Fox because it's gonna be 508 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: a big crowd. Everything else. We all had to take 509 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: COVID test and I was thinking to myself, what happens 510 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: if I test POT because I've got this cold. I 511 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I've already had COVID, but I 512 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: wasn't expecting the guy got tested. I don't have COVID, 513 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: but I was like, am I gonna have to stay 514 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: in a hotel room in South Florida for like ten days? 515 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: Because I randomly came down here and ended up with 516 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: a cold, So I don't have COVID. I'm gonna survive. 517 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: At least you're in Miami, So if you had to 518 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: set up, if I go south, that's where we want 519 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: it to be. So that's that's the new the new 520 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: joint as far as I'm concerned. Kamala Harris was on 521 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: Good Morning America and if you ever wondered yourself, why 522 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: is Kamala at twenty eight percent? Of which I don't 523 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: think many of people who listen to this show wonder 524 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: about that. I think they all know. But if you're 525 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: wondering with Kamala, what's really going on here? She is. 526 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: When I asked about the steep rise in inflation, she 527 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: like the you know, boring bureaucrat HR officer that she is, 528 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: is basically saying, yeah, we're like, we're totally on that 529 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: thing that you're talking about. Well, first of all, it's real, 530 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: and it's and it's rough. Groceries. The cost of groceries 531 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: has gone up, the cost of gas has gone up. 532 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: And as this is all happening and the context of 533 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: two years of a pandemic that's one of the highest 534 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: priorities actually for the President and for me, and so 535 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: we're dealing with this issue in a number of ways. 536 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: Short term, one of the issues is the supply chain. 537 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: We're seeing a bottleneck and we need to relieve that bottleneck. 538 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: So we brought together everyone from the teamsters to Target 539 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: to say, hey, let's all bring everyone together, from the 540 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: truckers to the folks who are moving product, and let's 541 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: open up some of our major ports for work twenty 542 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: four hours a day, seven days a week. That's happening 543 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: and we're seeing great results. Long term, we need to 544 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: bring down the cost of living, and that's a longstanding issue. Okay, Clay, 545 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: First of all, I mean, she really exudes all warm 546 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: of a Siberian prison guard and really has the connection 547 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: with the common people that you would expect from someone 548 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: who's almost been programmed like a computer to say certain things. 549 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: But also, does anybody have any faith in either Joe 550 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: or Kamala to have an understanding of how to make 551 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: growth more robust, help bring the economy to the place 552 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: where it should be at this point? I mean, I 553 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: certainly I don't think. I think there are very few people, 554 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: even among Democrats, who really believe that well, she said 555 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: she wants to bring down the cost of living. Right now, 556 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: all of the Biden administration's policies would directly increase the 557 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: cost of living through a spiraling inflation rate that is 558 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: most impactful on the poorest among us. And Kamala Harris 559 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: can't even really make an argument at all. She sounds 560 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 1: like somebody who's got to give a book report and 561 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: knows that she has to talk for a certain length 562 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: of time. Listen to this Kamala Harris saying absolutely nothing. 563 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: This is crazy. We must together work together to see 564 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: where we are, where we are headed, where we are 565 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: going in our vision for where we should be, but 566 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: also see it as a moment yes together address the 567 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: challenges and to work on the opportunities. Did you ever 568 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: have experienced clay of You're like trying to answer an 569 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: essay question in high school or something, and you realize 570 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: that you're just writing words down like like you're not 571 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: actually because you don't know who the third monarch of 572 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: the you know Empire was that they're asking about. So 573 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: you just go Well, when you get deep in the question, 574 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: you find yourself wondering if the query will take you 575 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: to a place of great your understanding. This is what 576 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: she does, this is what she says. It reminds me 577 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: I took a voice indiction class in college, and everybody 578 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: had to give a persuasive speech. And you know a 579 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: lot of people would rather die than give a persuasive speech. Remember, 580 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: death is the second biggest fear of lots of people 581 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: behind public speaking. And so you would see like that 582 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: deer in the headlight's face when somebody realized, though, I've 583 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: got to go four minutes, and they had gone like 584 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: a minute ten and they had nothing else to say. 585 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: And that's what exactly it would sound like. By the way, 586 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: I want to send people off Thursday with a really 587 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: good happy moment. Right, we're happy warriors on this show, 588 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: and I want to play this is This was sent 589 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: to me this morning from Kate in Nashville. She is 590 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: a mom of a two year old. She listens to 591 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck every day. And by the way, Buck 592 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: down here in South Florida, I'm at a ton of moms. 593 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: We got a big mom brigade out there. The mom 594 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: Revolution is repping for Clay and Buck to a large extent. 595 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: But this mom of this two year old listen to 596 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: this clip she sent in to me this morning. This 597 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: is fantastic. What do you want to listen to you 598 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: this morning? You want to listen to the Clay and 599 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: Buck Show. Okay, we'll listen to them this morning. Claying 600 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: a book, a book film. How fantastic. I love it. Man. 601 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: That kid's got great taste. He's going play. He's amazing. 602 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: I love it. Gets fired up he was He's not 603 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: just claim Clay and Buck show like he knows what 604 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: time it is. I hope he's listening right now. I 605 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: hope he realizes that he made the show. So that 606 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: is mom Kate and Nashville sharing her two year olds affinity. 607 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: Sent him a high five, and you know, we gotta 608 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: get him like a T shirt or something. We gotta 609 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: start making him Clay and Buck schwag. Actually, I just 610 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: realized that we gotta get not a bad idea. Um, 611 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: So I am headed back from the great place of 612 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: South Florida to Nashville. Buck, you'll stay in New York City, 613 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: the People's Republic of New York City. Yeah, man, I 614 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: gotta hold down the Ford here for everybody else. I 615 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: got to make sure that the comedies don't totally overrun us. 616 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: You know, this is like the last bastion here eib NYC. 617 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: You know it is funny. I met so many people 618 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: down here in South Florida who had fled New York 619 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: and New Jersey. They were just like, I couldn't handle 620 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: it anymore. During COVID, I had to bail and my brothers. 621 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: One of them moved to Florida, and he just he 622 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: like trolls me. He sends me, He's like, I just bought, 623 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, my thirteenth legal firearm in the state of Florida. 624 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: And I you know, I love my car. I put 625 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: the top down. I sent pan no state income tax 626 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, well, Eric Adam says he might 627 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: lower crime a little bit from its really bad level. 628 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: So there, and I have a six hundred square foot 629 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: apartment that I would by myself. Excuse me. Can you 630 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: take a nap and shower and cook your dinner at 631 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: the same time, Travis, I don't think so. Oh man, 632 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: this has been a lot of fun. What do you 633 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: take By the way, Ron Johnson, do you think he's 634 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: gonna run send from Wisconsin? I think if if he 635 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: would way, I believe I think claim Buck Show might 636 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: have just pushed him into the running category, though who knows. 637 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: We need him, by the way, he's gonna win because 638 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: Wisconsin in twenty twenty two is going to be a 639 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: red wave state, I really do think, and he will 640 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: get reelected and we need him there to fight me 641 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: back with you all tomorrow. Talk to you then claim 642 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: buck out. 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