WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Idealistic vs Realistic 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.720 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:16.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge, 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:20.880 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:31.040 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and Newi Scrugs. Hey, 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.920 welcome to the Tuesday edition of the Players Lounge. She 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:35.880 brought to you by Hotels dot Com. The newis Scrugs, 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.879 longtime Cowboys reported, joined by two former Dallas Cowboys players. 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.280 They played safety in the Silver Blue, Danny McCray and 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:49.080 Barry Church. All Right, here we are on a Tuesday, 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.879 and I can't remember when's the last time all of 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.760 us picked the Monday night football game correctly, because last 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.520 night it happened. We all have Baltimore. Baltimore won the game. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.560 It's been a minute, Hey, it's been a long time. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.360 But that was a lot closer of a game than 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.559 I thought. You know, I thought coming into that one 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.720 U or Baltimore was gonna put it on Cleveland, being 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.600 their little brother and all. But hey, man Baker showed up. 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:14.520 Baker and them boys showed up. And I tell you what, 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:17.039 the best thing that ever happened to Baker might be 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.400 the absence of O. B J. I don't know, man, 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:23.200 but he's last couple of weeks. I don't know. First 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.480 of all, the Church, Church, did you did you pick 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.240 a spread or points for that game? Or did you 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:31.440 just say that that Baltimore was gonna win. I just 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.800 said Baltimore was gonna win, you know. Okay, so yes, 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.640 so you're taking half, So you take a half of 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.360 I said, I said, Baltimore is gonna win by six. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:42.560 You did, but you didn't give a score. I was 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.119 the only one that gave a score. But you said 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:49.720 by you know what, they won by five? They won 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.680 by five. I had um. I had him winning twenty 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.680 six twenty one in a close game. So I thought 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.760 of oh, so you got the five point okay, knew 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:00.400 he I see you Church in last I said, again, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.240 look at New look at New y'all. I heard that 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.120 slight man too, But I'm a brusher to listen. I 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.600 was really, I was, I was really. I really wanted 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.040 to ask at the beginning of the show before we 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.680 get into it, because I'm looking at Church's outfit right now, 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.720 and he looked cold up top. He looked a little warm, 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.760 warm with it. He looked a little warm with the shirt. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.840 I'm not sure if he got on pants or basketball shorts. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:23.280 But I'm trying to figure out where you up in 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.640 Pittsburgh and down in Texas at the same time we 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.920 got on here with the outfit. I'm in Texas. But 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:30.920 I tell you what, man, I just got done with 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.640 my boy McCray aka Billy Blank's workout. Man, he didn't 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.080 talk it earlier today. He just sent it to the 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.000 to the group chat. So I ended up going into 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.200 the garage and getting it in before the show. And 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.239 that's why I'm a little You know, it's cold in 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.800 the garage. I gotta keep the domee clean and uh 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:47.600 you know that's the stuff is sweated out. So you 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.520 know that that's where I'm at right now with the outfit. 0:02:49.639 --> 0:03:00.519 You know, Okay, just checking Billy. When I lived in Romandotes, 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.240 Billy Blanks's studio was right over there. It was off 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:07.000 it was on Ventura Boulevard. Fan eisn't been touring Billy's. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.280 Billy's uh his studios right there. And remember we had 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.320 a nice conversation and believe it or not, um over 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.640 there training camp in Oxnard at the Camario outlet. He 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.959 was buying shoes and I ended I ended up like hey, 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.600 Billy blanks Man, because I got that tape. I can 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.399 only do five minutes, man, I was, so I wore out. 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.760 He's like, it's okay, just keep on going, like na, bro, 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:32.640 Not really I was. I was. I was sitting there, 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:40.440 Brad gassy and this was the warm up man. Exactly. 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.560 You gotta make one of the fat folks takes man 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.280 where where we ain't ready to get up here and 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.600 go like you were, like you were in a class 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.520 and everybody else there but nice guy man, Billy and 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.840 nice guy man. But that tape. But you know, make 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.640 sure you've been exercise dual something. I mean that tape 0:03:54.680 --> 0:04:02.960 at it from no beginning. So when I'm watching the 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.680 game against Cleveland the Baltimore last night, here's what comes 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.839 into my head over and over again. What they could 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:12.600 have had had they continued to take my house Garrett 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.800 number one from Arlington, which they did, and then instead 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:20.440 of trading the pick taking DeShawn Watson. How good could 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:27.039 the Cleveland Browns be? They would be scary team. That 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.040 is a scary football team. If they have to dresses 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.880 you know, church, you know I heard you say night 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.760 and day. And after watching the game last night and 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.680 seeing that the Cleveland Browns are what nine and four, 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.160 you know, I don't. I don't really know how much 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.920 better they could get on top of this year. Baker 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.640 Mayfield has had some questionable games, but he's been playing 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.880 better as the season has war on. And I like 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.080 the way that they're leaning on the running game versus 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.000 having Baker Mayfield try to pass the ball the whole time. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.880 So I think that Baker Mayfield being there allows them 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.240 to run a scheme that fits for them in Cleveland. 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.000 And if Shaun Watson was there, I think they will 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.159 be trying to do some things a little differently. So 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.440 I'm not sure. I actually liked the way Baker Mayfield 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.600 has been playing recently, and if he keeps this up 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.039 and they keep on depending on the ring game, I 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:22.880 think they got the right pick. Well, I'll say this, 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.479 if Deshaun Watson's there, Hugh Jackson may be there because 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.720 because they would have there to Kevin Jobs, but everybody 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.280 fired because they decided they were going to take the 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.679 Shaun Kaiser in the second round and he couldn't play, 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.800 and then they had Cody Kessler. I mean it was 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:37.880 just a mess or quarterbacks, the three. I think when 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.600 you mess up the quarterback spot, you set yourself back 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.280 for a minute. Man, it is bad, bad, bad. By 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.760 the way, one reason why I brought up Cleveland was 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.240 getting to this. So Cleveland's next opponent is the New 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:53.760 York Giants, and the Cleveland Giant game took the Dallas 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.840 Cowboys San Francisco forty nine er, a game which is 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.240 supposed to be on Sunday night. So the Cowboys now 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.559 play at noon against the Niners over the Jerry World, 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.920 and then Cleveland and the Giants get that spot like 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.800 that the Cowboys are supposed to have with the forty 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.680 nine ers, and and and I know, I know we 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.239 said that that. You know, the coaches and the players 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:18.000 are messing with Jerry's money. But realistically, you know, the 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.560 forty nine ers aren't really doing much and the Cowboys 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.440 aren't doing much. So I think it's the onus is 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.279 on both of these teams, and in New York and 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.039 Cleveland are both fighting for playoffs spots. So I think 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.280 it's a fair a fair thing. But usually, you know, 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.360 the Cowboys have something to fight for, and I think 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.240 everybody's just giving up on the forty ninets and the Cowboys, 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.360 so it is nobody wants to really watch it. But 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.560 this has never happened, Danny. I mean, even when the 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:49.480 Cowboys had questionable playoff hopes, um, they found a way 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:50.960 to get them on. And I go back to, uh, 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.360 maybe it's about three years ago. It was a game 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.240 in Oakland and and the Cowboys were, you know, they 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.440 were struggling trying to make it. The Raids are struggling 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.400 trying to make it. I ended up calling one of 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.360 my PR buddies over at the NBC Sports, I said, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.520 what do you think? And he said, if there's any 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.800 mathematical way that these two teams are there, we're gonna 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.440 try and get it in. And of course they were. 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.440 And it ended up being a very good game that 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.920 came down to the end and then uh, Derek Carr 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.800 tried to run for the end zone. He dies for 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.240 the pylon and fumbles the ball out of bounds. I 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.480 think Jeff Heath ended up hitting him and the Cowboys 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.000 ended up winning a game. But they've always found their 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.080 way until Mike McCarthy showed up and that ended. That's over. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:32.240 So this Sunday Night Football, and this is a new 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.680 game now. Man. This is why, this is why Dak 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.480 Prescott is worth forty million, because I can almost guarantee 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.680 you that if he was the starting quarterback for this game, 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.240 they wouldn't have got flexed out of flexed out of 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.680 the prop time game. Yeah, I thought they would be 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.800 in this position if he was a starting quarterback, they 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.360 might be in playoff position right now. So they definitely 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.360 wouldn't have got flexed out of this one. Tay the man, 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.560 Dak Prescott, that that made up for a whole lot. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.840 We're seeing that. So um, let's leave this into Mike McCarthy, gentleman. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.840 Every Tuesday at eight thirty one one h five three 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:09.040 the Fan, Jerry Jones does his radio show and Jerry 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:15.160 was asked about Mike McCarthy coming back next year. And 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.800 it all started with a report over the weekend from 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.160 Ian Rapp report of NFL Network that he said, Hey, 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.720 his sources with the Cowboys are telling him that Mike 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.160 McCarthy's coming back. Then Stephen Jones is asked about it 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.720 yesterday on the Fantas seems like, of course, Mike McCarthy's 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.960 coming back. So today it was Jerry's turn to be 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.640 asked a question. Here's what he had to say to 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.040 Sean and our Jack. Not one time, not one time, 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:40.520 have I been in any discussion, had any dream been 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:45.200 sitting by myself, Have I given given a thought to 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.560 anything but Mike McCarthy being our coach next year and 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.120 being our coach in the future, And in the hell 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.960 something like that could get going with a conversation with 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:58.120 Steven or anybody else about whether McCarthy's going to be 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:03.120 the coach or not is ridiculous. Now just think about it. 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:08.080 We've just made the move to start down the road 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:14.199 with our coach, and we'll all understand that continuity really 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:19.360 sticking with a plan and having a long term plan 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:24.640 to put your team together around a particular coach and 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:30.280 his style and his ability to just put a put 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.720 a winning team on the field. He won't do it 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.559 the same way he did it in Green Bay. I'm 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:38.400 talking Mike McCarthy. But the facts are, does he have 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.760 the background, does he have the experience, does he have 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.640 the skill set, does he have the ability to motivate? 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:50.360 Does he have the knowledge the entrance? Yes, and that's 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.719 why we hired him. But We sure didn't hire him 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.280 to sit here and have a rough year right out 0:09:55.280 --> 0:10:01.679 the door. Some of your greatest jobs that have been 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.200 done coaching for the Dallas Cowboys have had a very 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:10.760 unimpressive start, whether it be coach Landry or whether it 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:16.800 be Jimmy Johnson or even Bill. Those those starts have 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.480 not been something that had Super Bowl written all over them, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.360 but still they evolved into being a part of some 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:31.280 great teams. The jobs that you do, you've got to 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:35.320 handicap and you've got to look into why what's happening 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.840 to you? Why it's happening to you. And unless you 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.439 all of a sudden have somebody that has just totally 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.720 different persons than they were when they were having their success, 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.200 their backgrounds can make a lot of difference here. And 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.280 I've been known to stick with these guys for in 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.880 early troubled times on coaching. Jerry, you mentioned that they 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.559 don't understand. Frankly, just so how ridiculous this conversation is 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.120 in terms of it actually having any meat on the ball. 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.720 Is I've never even I don't think I've even dreamed 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:13.040 the thought of might not be in the cove. All right, 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.640 that's the hall of famer Jerry Jones. His take this 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:20.640 morning about Mike McCarthy and Jerry was wrong on one thing. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.200 Bill Parcels went ten and six with Quincy Carter's quarterback 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.800 in the playoffs his first year here with the Cowboys. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.440 So Bill Parcells started off with the game busters. I 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.520 remember that and covered through the teams. So it's ridiculous 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.480 he says about Mike McCarthy not being back. Mccrag your 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:40.600 take on what you just heard. I mean, his reasoning 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.280 makes sense, but I don't think it's ridiculous for anybody 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.960 to for it to be in their mind just based 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.199 off what we've been seeing on the field. Some of 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.720 the things you're hearing with you know, we got anonymous, 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.360 you know, coming out, we got players not playing hard 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.319 on defense and him having to talk about hustling and 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.680 finishing to the ball. All these things you know, they 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.640 leave up to the head man. So when you hear 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:03.760 stuff like this and you see the play that's been 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.400 on the field, I think it's reasonable to questions should 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.160 he come back. But knowing Jerry, we know that he's 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.480 gonna have McCarthy's back, and you know, and stick with 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.320 him and see how this thing plays. Out for the 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.800 next few years. Yeah, And for me, I think it, 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.040 like mccrai said, it's fair to question, just because the 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.360 expectations we had coming into this season. We thought, yeah, 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:25.800 it was gonna be playoffs, it was gonna be a 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.480 playoff year. But it didn't happen that way. So people 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.520 are gonna question, the rumblings are gonna get out there. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.560 But I agree with Jerry. I mean, you gotta give 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.520 him at least one more year. There's too many variables. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.320 There's too many things going on this season that kind 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.320 of hampered his first his goal around season with the Cowboys. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.120 I mean, like we mentioned yesterday, there's no off season, 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.600 many camps, training camps, preseason, all that, and we're putting 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.840 into a new system into account and with all that, 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:52.960 the injuries. We still got to talk about the injuries 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.000 that happened on both sides of the ball. So for me, 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.680 I gotta give him at least one more goal around, 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.400 one more goal around, hopefully everybody can stay healthy. Who 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.640 have a full off season under his belt, so he'll 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.160 get to implement his philosophy on what he wants the 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.160 players to do and what he thinks is acceptable and 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.440 what he thinks is not acceptable, and hopefully he can 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.240 get this team back to where they need to go. 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.160 I think what this team needs is just accountability, and 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.840 hopefully during the off season he can and strew that 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.240 onto his team. That a look, man, we're only as 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:20.839 good as our weakest links, so we got to keep 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.520 everybody accountable, and hopefully he's able to put that onto 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.599 his team with a full off season. I say, you 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.760 got to give him one more go around. But somebody, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:29.920 somebody got to fall on the sword. I don't know 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.600 if it's if it's Mike Nolan, I don't know if 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.120 it's Keller Moore, I don't know if it's the special 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.360 team's coordinator. Whoever it is, somebody got to fall on 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.000 the sword, because I guarantee fans will not be happy 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.760 if this full coaching staff as a whole unit comes 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.040 back next year for another girl around. I still want 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.280 to know what the system is. I'll go ahead and 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:52.120 no bad no, no, no, go ahead, day no. I 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.360 want to know what is the new system that we 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.080 have the input, especially offensively. Keller Moore is still the 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.319 offensive coordinator. All right, we did everything everything the same 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.079 extep Give zeke the ball all right. And on defense, yeah, 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.320 I understand that we put in the three four versus 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.040 the four to three special teams is special teams. The 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.120 only thing that we're doing around those special teams is 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.240 running fakes and getting caught doing it. All right, Defense, 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.800 to me is the big question mark. But offensively, I 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.320 don't understand, you know, us not having off season, the 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.880 new scheme and all this. I mean, Ceedee Lamb's knew, 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.400 Amari Cooper has been here, Dalla's been here, Dak has 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.480 been here, Zeke has been here. There's a lot of 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.240 guys who are running some of the same stuff that 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.520 they see last year. And we still started off the 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.320 season struggling in the first half and now we're struggling. 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.480 You know what, our what our second string quarterback as 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.760 well to put up points on the board. But what 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.840 I think is what what what you know has hurt 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.720 us most this season? It's been the defense. The defense 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.120 has hampered us the most part of this this season. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.800 And that's the only new system that was brought into 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.800 this year. Was there was that defensive system with Mike 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.760 Nolan Because you said Kellen Moore's coming back and he 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.440 had the same terminology or implanted the same offensive strategy 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.680 as we did last year. So to me, it was 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.040 all on the defense. And we see what happened here. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.400 So I think next year, if he can get a 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.720 full off season with a full defense under his under 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.560 his regime, I think they'll play a little bit better. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.800 Wait with Nola, No, no, no, no, not with Big Mike. No, 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:18.160 somebody gotta go, and it's gonna be Big Mike. So 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:19.720 they're gonna put it in. They're gonna put it in 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.560 the new defense with you know, a whole nother scheme. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.160 They're gonna go through the same thing again, and then 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:24.880 they're gonna have to get a defense a whole year. 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.160 I'm just hopefully they have an off season. That's all 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.640 I'm saying. Hopefully they have an off season that defense in. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.120 Let's take a break, Jerry Jones handing out a pardon 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:41.320 to Mike McCarthy. He handed out another part pardon and 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:47.480 we're going ahead, and the stay of execution the scenes 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.960 like for this coach, let's talk about it or the plays. 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:51.720 So I'll try here about to my hotels dot com 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.680 or Dallas Cowboys dot com radio, either Cowboys fans with 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.560 type cleaners at home pickup and delivery. Cleaning your clothes 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.560 has ever been more convenient. Simply sign up at your 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.240 local store, set out your dirty clothes, and one of 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.080 our tight cleaner professionals will come directly to your home 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.800 for a totally contactless experience. Your clean garments will be 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.800 returned promptly the next scheduled delivery day. So skip the 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.520 errand and enjoy life not laundry. 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So Jerry Jones 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.240 with his weekly visit on one oh five three the 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.920 Fan with Sean and r J. He was asked about 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.480 what he likes about Mike McCarthy as he came out 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.400 and said, it's ridiculous to even think about Mike McCarthy 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.720 not being the head coach for the Cowboys next year. 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.480 Here's you. Oh. I like the way that he's basically 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:57.359 handled the situation with COVID. I like his I like 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:04.520 his interaction with players. I like his football intelligence, or 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:09.040 the way he goes about his philosophy. I like all 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:13.199 of that. I like his risk taking. You're not going 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.520 to see it manifests itself the same way every time. 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:19.400 But all of those kinds of things are every bit 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.120 what I could have hoped for one hired him as coach. 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:26.280 But more importantly, he's done this to sit in this 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:32.000 first rodeo. He's done it. I think that is important. Yes, 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:36.000 I've gone with guys that haven't done it before relative 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:39.919 to this level, but he's done it. He's got a 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.600 great background. He's got a great He's been exposed to 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:47.800 a lot of good coaches and this day and time, philosophically, 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:51.640 I like his philosophy. He knows you can't go too 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.560 far on one side of the ball or the other. 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.399 You'll wear the other side out, or you'll you'll you 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:01.440 will be flawed on one side if you if you 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.600 just gotta kind of have it down the middle. They 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.080 have that word. There's a big word when you say 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:11.320 compliment each other, the defense, the offense, the special teams. 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.560 I like what we're trying to do on special teams. 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:22.399 I love our special teams code boom, there you go. 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:29.679 Jerry Jones pardoned, he pardoned, bones fossil. Okay, how about that? 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:35.920 How about that? McRae, how about that? Huh? How about that? Yeah? 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:40.640 I don't know, you know, you know, like I said, 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:42.280 I always tell the church on the break, it sounds 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:44.680 like the whole gang is coming back. Man. I think 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.480 that everybody is getting the free pass this year. Um. 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:52.000 I've watched the special teams play and I've watched some 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.520 of the you know, the crazy calls that we've made. 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.240 I think they are covering well their coverage teams are 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:02.000 are playing well. We've seen Tony Pollard, you know, he 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.320 had two big returns over the last couple of weeks. 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.679 Other than that, we haven't really seen much out of 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:11.320 the return game. And these fake punts and getting caught, 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.680 you know, getting caught off guard with face, getting running 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:17.120 against us and getting lucky with them having illegal formasons 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.159 and false starts. That that's the only things that saved 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.840 us from being a horrible prepared special team. So, I mean, 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.240 I don't see it, but I'm sure he loves what 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:28.760 I was supposed to team coach has done in the past, 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.600 just as much as he's loved what Mike McCarthy has 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.760 done in the past. We just need to see the 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:38.680 past come to the future. Man, Look, I'm confused by 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:42.000 that whole spill. My boy just went on right there, 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:43.879 My boy, Jerry just went on because look, let me 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:46.000 tell you something. Let's let's break down the first part. 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:48.359 He was talking about how he loved the risk, risk 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:52.240