WEBVTT - A short tribute to Mike Keiser and Bandon Dunes.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Kaiser, thank you so much for all that you've done,

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<v Speaker 1>all that you continue to do the way you do it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I always say that if I read, ever

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<v Speaker 1>write a book about you, it'll be called what do

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<v Speaker 1>We Think? Because I've always appreciated your style of of listening.

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<v Speaker 1>You obviously make the decisions, and you make the right ones.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been amazing to watch how you've also included so

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<v Speaker 1>many people and different voices into a lot of your

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<v Speaker 1>thought process getting to the final decisions. So it's been

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<v Speaker 1>it's been amazing, so I appreciate it. Thanks Matt, You've

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<v Speaker 1>been great for golf yourself. Keep it up and enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the Sheep Ranch. I can't wait. I'm gonna enjoy every step,

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<v Speaker 1>especially coming off of the circumstances that we're going through

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<v Speaker 1>right now. So be safe. My best to you and

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<v Speaker 1>your family and uh and I hope to see you

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<v Speaker 1>in organ in a couple of weeks. Good thanks man.

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<v Speaker 1>Put another logo. Nobody here is to get in time.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the fire Pit with Matt Chenella. We're back

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<v Speaker 1>and it's always good to be at this pit. Although

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<v Speaker 1>currently in winter Park, Florida, it's a steamy fire pit

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<v Speaker 1>every time you walk out the door, masks on of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you're all staying safe and healthy out there. As

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<v Speaker 1>we continue a short hiatus between seasons one and two,

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<v Speaker 1>we continue to go through some of our first season

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<v Speaker 1>of recordings and extract some relevant nuggets or unpublished stories

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<v Speaker 1>from our distinguished list of guests. With all That's happening

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<v Speaker 1>this week Abandoned Dunes in Oregon, most notably the US Amateur.

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<v Speaker 1>We've created another mini pod serving as a short tribute

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<v Speaker 1>to owner Mike Kaiser and all that he has done

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<v Speaker 1>to golf in America and four golfers all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>We start with a short bite from Mick Peters, a

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<v Speaker 1>barber in the town of Bandon for over fifty years,

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<v Speaker 1>who got the first tea time on the first course

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<v Speaker 1>that opened, the Bandon Dunes Course in May. Mick hit first. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we all shook hands and they introduced theirselves to me us,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, they handed out these coins and I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't explain it. It was just something special. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>had that happen because I've never been to a course

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and it's too nice for me really actually,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was It's just an honor to be number one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a sweet story. Mick hit first that day, then

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<v Speaker 1>his son Mike, and they've gone on to be first

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<v Speaker 1>and then second off every new course opening Abandoned ever since,

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<v Speaker 1>most recently on June one, the opening of the Sheep Ranch,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill Core and Ben Crenshaw design. It was Mick,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike and a lot more of the Peters family for

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<v Speaker 1>their last hurrah. For more on the Sheep Ranch, Mick

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<v Speaker 1>Peters and his place in Bandon history, see the link

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<v Speaker 1>in this podcast description, which is where you'll also see

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<v Speaker 1>a link to the Bob gas Bar story. Gas Bars

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<v Speaker 1>Bandon's official director of outside Happiness, and his nickname is

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<v Speaker 1>Shoe because he looks like jockey Bill Shoemaker. In this

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<v Speaker 1>feature shoot tells you how he found Bandon Dunes, who

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<v Speaker 1>gave him the nickname. Background on his daily weather reviews,

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<v Speaker 1>his reach on social media, and the impact Mike Kaiser

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<v Speaker 1>has had on the community. Here's Kaiser on Shoe. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a retired UPS guy who was involved in this post

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<v Speaker 1>guard in what capacity I've forgot when he moved in

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<v Speaker 1>southern California in retirement to Abandon and he was working

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<v Speaker 1>with the Coast Guard and heard about our project and

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<v Speaker 1>said I would do himself. I want to be involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this. Came into Josh's um and said, put me

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<v Speaker 1>to work, and Jeff said, well, we don't have any positions,

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<v Speaker 1>so put me to work. I don't you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to pay an me and Josh never looking to wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to look at your person amount and said, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I got the owner coming out with forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight friends that run into Jet and they're coming out

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<v Speaker 1>here too. Look at the golf course a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>before it's ready to play. I need h and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, if you find caddies, they will play. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where to find him. Sho said, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want caddies, just tell me how many forty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get you forty eight kiddies, And he found forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight caddies from the Coastguard. So who are our first?

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<v Speaker 1>Candy Cord that one day where coast guards have been

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<v Speaker 1>taken the day off and caddying for my my group

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<v Speaker 1>of Chicago. It was great. He's been the voice in

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<v Speaker 1>the presence of Van and Duds ever since, been there

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty years. Over twenty years. In our reporting on

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<v Speaker 1>several of Season one podcasts, including the history of Bandon Dunes,

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<v Speaker 1>how Bill core part Earned with Ben Crenshaw, the building

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<v Speaker 1>of Sandhills, the Plantation Course, a couple of and much more.

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<v Speaker 1>We spoke to Bill Course several times. Here are his

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on Mike Kaiser. We've gotten so far away more

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<v Speaker 1>than our fair share of very special sites, and a

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<v Speaker 1>great number of those have come from Mike Kiser. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>He's been He is simply the most incredible and should

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<v Speaker 1>be the most highly acclaimed golf developer in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And he the products that he puts out there and

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<v Speaker 1>the care that he puts into them is just beyond comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>And but he finds these sites, he goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>that that that nucleus of playing golf on sandy firm ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and in Mike's case, at least until Sand Valley, it

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<v Speaker 1>was always about somewhere near the sea. Um is he

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<v Speaker 1>just finds it to be it's a it's a connection

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<v Speaker 1>to five d years of golf history. And he he

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<v Speaker 1>just I think he believed in before he started doing

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<v Speaker 1>these golf developments, that that was a connection that would

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<v Speaker 1>resonate with American golfers as well as European and other

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<v Speaker 1>other nationality golfers, and he brought it to us. He

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<v Speaker 1>gave us the opportunity to experience it, and he was right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a it's a It may be the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest form of golf in the world, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's still the most appreciated. I always say, the only

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<v Speaker 1>person in golf who's more respected, revered and appreciated than

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Core is Ben Crenshaw, who also provided some insight

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<v Speaker 1>into Kaiser's success. Man, you talk about a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>has given us so many opportunities to put our philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>forward in a natural manner, and Mike is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in his heart, he's a golfer and he simply wants

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<v Speaker 1>to present the people something that's entirely different in the

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<v Speaker 1>world of golf. I think reaches an element in a

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<v Speaker 1>person that wants to go a journey a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>and travel a little bit to see a destination. Crenshaw

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<v Speaker 1>always delivers. But one of my favorite interviews of the

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<v Speaker 1>season was getting time with Jimmy Kidd David McClay, Kid's father,

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<v Speaker 1>who had never realized had such an impact on the

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<v Speaker 1>building of Bandoned Dunes. Here's a little bit from Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Kidd on how he and his son got the gig

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<v Speaker 1>from Mr Kaiser. David had already said that, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that there's any real chance of us. Mike's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously talking to the bigger guys, so to help we

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<v Speaker 1>may as well just go for it. And at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day makes offended by anything I say tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just too bad. But when I had up, what

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<v Speaker 1>I understood of Mike from way back was that Mike's

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of guy that really enjoys that. He enjoys

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<v Speaker 1>the competitiveness of conversation and at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a chat a guy who sits back and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wants people to just be um, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>one I'm looking for? Beholden to him and listen to

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<v Speaker 1>take on board everything he says. He wants you to

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<v Speaker 1>argue it. Employee David can argue, and he did that

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<v Speaker 1>particular night, And at the end of the day I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>she's David, I think you've probably done it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be in the next plain home and maybe another

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<v Speaker 1>back here. But it worked out fine, I'd say it did.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear a lot more from Jimmy and David

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<v Speaker 1>kidd on building Bandon in episodes eight and nine of

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<v Speaker 1>season one, which is where we asked David and Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Lesnick what Bandoned Dunes means to them. Now. Lesnik is

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<v Speaker 1>the current president of Kemper Sports, which helps the Kaiser

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<v Speaker 1>family manage the resort, but in late nineties, les Nick

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<v Speaker 1>was also the first general manager of Bandon Doom. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Josh line and then David kidd on why it's also

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<v Speaker 1>special to them even to this day. For me, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've been involved with a number of other places,

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<v Speaker 1>and but Bandon is is uh yeah, it's home. It's

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<v Speaker 1>my home away from home. It's my happy place. I

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<v Speaker 1>love you know, the second you step foot on that

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<v Speaker 1>property and breathe in that air and then get to

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<v Speaker 1>play those golf courses. Um and Bandon Dunes being my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite golf course anywhere in the world. Yeah, there's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that anything could ever take over Banded Dunes

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<v Speaker 1>is my favorite place in the world. And Bandoned Dunes

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<v Speaker 1>is your favorite course. It is David is is it? Is?

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<v Speaker 1>It hard to think that anything will ever overtake this

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<v Speaker 1>is your this is your number one, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is your first baby. Absolutely, I never tire of talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Bannon Dun's. I never tire of every visit I make.

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<v Speaker 1>I especially love it when I get to take Bandon

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<v Speaker 1>virgins there who are not banned in East As yet

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<v Speaker 1>to experience the place with a newbie is still a

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<v Speaker 1>huge kick. And I know it's the same for you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean taking I probably take at least one or

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<v Speaker 1>two ate somes to band in a year, and in

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<v Speaker 1>that eight someme, I try and make sure there's at

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<v Speaker 1>least one or two virgins, uh and introduced them to

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<v Speaker 1>the place and know that it's just blowing their minds.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's such fun to be part of. To see

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<v Speaker 1>that wonder again and experience it through someone else's eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing it for the first time, I'll never ever tire

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Congratulations to David and his wife Tara who

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<v Speaker 1>on July two, Welcome to David Drake McLay kid. Young

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<v Speaker 1>David Drake's father started building Bandon Dunes from Mike Kaiser

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<v Speaker 1>when he was twenty six years old, still a baby,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course we spoke at length with Kaiser on

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<v Speaker 1>several subjects, some of which you haven't heard yet. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Mike why Bill Court and Ben Crenshaw are

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of his list of preferred architects, and

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<v Speaker 1>on Core's ability to route a course like the sheep Ridge.

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<v Speaker 1>They have their own opinions about things, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>insist that we do it in their way. They are

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<v Speaker 1>really open minded, not totally because they have their own style,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're modest about their their own beliefs and are

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<v Speaker 1>always open to change, you know, if they criticize Bill

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<v Speaker 1>or event Red Green that I don't like because it's

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<v Speaker 1>too lumply, or a whole like Bannon Trails number fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been through a number of iterations, and that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of Ben's whole. They've amended things before and there

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<v Speaker 1>was built and after they were built in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that the other architects, Some of the other architects. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of Timo Cano, who's who's brilliant, but he is

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<v Speaker 1>He's a big golf ego, and I take away nothing

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<v Speaker 1>from him for being certain more certain than the other

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<v Speaker 1>architects about this is the way it. Because he's so brilliant,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working with him. I let him do that

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<v Speaker 1>because there's only so much she'll listen to from an

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<v Speaker 1>owner mayorment, I know what he's doing. Bill and Ben

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<v Speaker 1>are more collegial. What about Bill Core's ability to unlock

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<v Speaker 1>a puzzle? But you're probably thinking of the Sheep Ranch

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<v Speaker 1>is a good example of that, and there are many

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<v Speaker 1>other examples of good in sand Hills, where he and

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<v Speaker 1>he had been walked for days and days and days

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<v Speaker 1>to find the investity team holes. Wow, out of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they identified a hundred and twenty holes, all of which

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<v Speaker 1>were good, and they had to reduce it down to

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<v Speaker 1>an eight team hoole routing. What a what a mental

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<v Speaker 1>thing that is. So the Sheep Ranch. Other architects I

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<v Speaker 1>won't name them and looked at it and said it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great site, but it's only big enough for thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen holes. And Bill had known what others had said.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew that it was somewhat constraints I certainly compared

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<v Speaker 1>to sam Hills or Bannon Trails. Instead, I'll give it

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<v Speaker 1>a try anyway, and he and Ben came up with

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<v Speaker 1>this famulous rounting everyone will see on June first when

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<v Speaker 1>it opens. Uh, and all the other architects who thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was too small just stacked ahead and say, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how he did that in talking to Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>I know they did it by finding what became the

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<v Speaker 1>first Hole, Kaiser's favorite opening hole on property. They pushed

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<v Speaker 1>the first Green as far north as possible. They built

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<v Speaker 1>three double teas two and eighteen, five and fifteen, eight

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<v Speaker 1>and ten, and they maximized the potential and use of

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<v Speaker 1>the coastline with nine Infinity Green complexes, including the double

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<v Speaker 1>Green of three and sixteen. Before we go, here's Kaiser

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<v Speaker 1>again on his fall to feed on fire pits and

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<v Speaker 1>his favorite fire pit, because as I'm sure you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>by now, it was abandoned fire pit tucked into the

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<v Speaker 1>trees of Bandon's Grove cottages that inspired this podcast in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place. We probably don't have enough of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but we we have them because no one wants the

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<v Speaker 1>day to stop, and it's outdoors and part of nature

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<v Speaker 1>at night, so we couldn't have note, we could have

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<v Speaker 1>many fire pits without a fire, but we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>keep you warm, so we we want to keep you

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<v Speaker 1>outside moment. Cigars were not just the way, just the

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<v Speaker 1>way to warm you so you stay in nature a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit longer. Do you have a favorite fire pit,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably the one of growth cotta jump. We're building

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<v Speaker 1>one right now for and I haven't seen it a

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<v Speaker 1>cheap branch, so it's got it's going to have some growth.

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<v Speaker 1>Cottages doesn't really have a view. You're just part of nature,

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted sheep ran. She's going to be resplendent

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<v Speaker 1>with the visuals. You'll be overlooking the golfers. So wait

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<v Speaker 1>until you see that right now as the growth cottages

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<v Speaker 1>smart man to say the least. All right, that'll do

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<v Speaker 1>it for this mini pod interlude between seasons. Remember use

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<v Speaker 1>of apparel at link soul dot com. Ongoing appreciation for

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<v Speaker 1>alex Upeggy who helps me produce this podcast, Rex Lint

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<v Speaker 1>who adds the sound music and makes it sing, which

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<v Speaker 1>brings me to another playing of the complete fire Pit

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<v Speaker 1>Anthem written and recorded by Joe Horrow what's produced by

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<v Speaker 1>Jakier King, which they called The Story and is available

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<v Speaker 1>on iTunes or wherever you buy your music for more

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<v Speaker 1>on the making of this song The Story listened to

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<v Speaker 1>episode fifteen, which is how we ended season one. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back again soon. Put another larpole of fire. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>hears getting tired, Settle down, and settle in the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's about to begin, the circles starting to take its shape,

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<v Speaker 1>seats of field, and the tired sun lands, and his skin,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody's got some glory, Just wait unto unfold. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>got some story, Just wait unto him. Be to the place,

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<v Speaker 1>for that is here. All those smiles and all those tears,

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<v Speaker 1>let them go. Put another log on the figh. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>hears getting tired. Settle down, and settle in the story

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<v Speaker 1>hears about to begin. Tales were told of war and gold,

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<v Speaker 1>lovers lost in a lifetimes dreams our soul. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>should stop in the sun at the wisdom in the air. Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>you should pour your heart out. We ainle hand the way,

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<v Speaker 1>find your mercy in the sound. As the smoke gets

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<v Speaker 1>pushed around in your soul. Put another lock on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody hears getting tired. Settle down and settle in the

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<v Speaker 1>story hears about to begin. The story hears about to begin.

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<v Speaker 1>The story hears about to begin.