WEBVTT - Is It Worth Going To College?

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<v Speaker 1>Morning. Everybody is j n V Charlemagne the guy. We

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<v Speaker 1>are the breakfast club out co host B Scott is

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<v Speaker 1>here and we're opening up the phone lines eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and five A five, one oh five one. We were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about something we've seen in the Business Insider where

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying the majority of Americans now think a college

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<v Speaker 1>degree isn't worth it, and they said fifty six percent

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<v Speaker 1>of Americans now say a four year college degree isn't

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<v Speaker 1>worth the cost. And I was saying that I got

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<v Speaker 1>my degree of course from Hampton University HBCU shot everybody

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<v Speaker 1>at all at Hampton and LUMS. I would say that

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<v Speaker 1>I think that students should take some time off before

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<v Speaker 1>they go to college. And I'm gonna tell you why.

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<v Speaker 1>When I went to college, and as most students go

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<v Speaker 1>to college, a lot of them go to pass. They

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<v Speaker 1>just want to get their degree and get out. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I did. I got my degree and got out.

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<v Speaker 1>But now realizing there are so many classes and courses

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<v Speaker 1>that I should have really listened to because it would

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<v Speaker 1>have helped me in you know, in life, in life,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And I wish I could

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<v Speaker 1>go back to those courses and I tell my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>who's in NYU now that you know, take those classes serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Just don't study to pass, study to actually learn. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was accountant, whether it's business, whether it's marketing and management. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get my degree in communications. I got my

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<v Speaker 1>degree in marketing and management, which I use in my

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<v Speaker 1>career because I always said I was going to have

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<v Speaker 1>money going into high school. But I just needed to

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<v Speaker 1>know how to keep it, how to invest it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what college taught me. But I tell kids to

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<v Speaker 1>take time off when I tell kids what courses they

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<v Speaker 1>should take, because I think they got to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>and learn what they want to do. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think if you take that time off, maybe jump into

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<v Speaker 1>the workforce a little bit, then you can really understand

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to do. Because most people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what they want to do. They go college, They go

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<v Speaker 1>to college and just try to figure it out. That's

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I tell my daughter, my daughter's fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>now she's a freshman, I'll tell her now that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even if she doesn't know what she wants to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Even even though she does, I think going to college

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<v Speaker 1>is a good thing to do until you figure it

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<v Speaker 1>out because yeah, because you're not wasting time, like at

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<v Speaker 1>least you'll have a degree after those four years. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go to college, you know, even though I am

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor honorary doctor from South Carolina, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go to college. But I'm just saying I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that four years is it's a good way to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with your time, but productive courses that you don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter went from real estate to be she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be an attorney, that she went back to real estate,

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<v Speaker 1>so she doesn't necessarily know what do you think? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I can only speak from experience, so you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>went to the University of nor Kaline Choppa Hill, and

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<v Speaker 1>for me it was something that was definitely needed because

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<v Speaker 1>it gave me a basic working knowledge of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like a lot of people could benefit

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<v Speaker 1>from that. I do believe that just knowing just fundamentals

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<v Speaker 1>of just like photosynthesis or just like certain things, just

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<v Speaker 1>allows you to appreciate things in a whole new way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do believe that you should use college, as

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<v Speaker 1>you were saying Charlemagne, to kind of explore because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the general requirements are. So the general requirements are

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place, and as you explore different little

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<v Speaker 1>taste of things, you can then say, Okay, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go deeper in that, and that becomes your major.

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<v Speaker 1>And my fear is that if they were to take

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<v Speaker 1>time off and they go and work, then they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to start getting real life responsibilities, which means you're buying

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with the money that you're making in this job,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that means you got to keep that job

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<v Speaker 1>to keep these things, and they prevents you from ever

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<v Speaker 1>going back. So every thing about exploring is you're exploring

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<v Speaker 1>by paying a bill. Like you look at certain colleges

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<v Speaker 1>of forty fifty thousand dollars a year and you're exploring

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<v Speaker 1>spending money and might not you might be taking the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong classes that you don't like. Like there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that or six years seven year college students

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<v Speaker 1>because they started thinking they want to be something and

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<v Speaker 1>then they wound up figuring it out, that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do. And then by the time they graduate,

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<v Speaker 1>they have three hundred four hundred thousand dollars worth of

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<v Speaker 1>debt that they got to pay off and now it

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<v Speaker 1>takes some twelve years to pay off. Right, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>be Scott said, though you know, if you don't go

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<v Speaker 1>to school, you probably getting the habit of just working. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I also think that sometimes you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell it, like when people just don't have a basic

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge of stuff, you'd be like, oh, okay, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You just you skip some courses. Let's go to the

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<v Speaker 1>phone lines. A lot of people are on the lines. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>who's this Good morning, hey Bernard, go on and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us. All right, So I just wanted to touch

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<v Speaker 1>on the I word out of college. I've thought about

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<v Speaker 1>eleven years and so when it comes to the affordability,

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<v Speaker 1>colleges are very but it's also public schools that are

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<v Speaker 1>much more affordable. And in some cases we qualified for

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<v Speaker 1>like programs but actually do an entire um not sure

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<v Speaker 1>degroup for free without paying anything out of pocket. It's

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<v Speaker 1>usually when we get to those masters degrees and gradual

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<v Speaker 1>program or those private schools that folks are paying a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of money and not really seeing that return on investment. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't say that too. You know the bad thing

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<v Speaker 1>and this is why we always talk about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>free education. My mom worked extra hard and my dad

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<v Speaker 1>work extra hard to so that I wouldn't have huge

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<v Speaker 1>college bills when I graduated, right, I think they pay

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<v Speaker 1>like seventy percent of my college to which and I

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<v Speaker 1>had to pay thirty percent when I graduate. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing for my kids, I have six, is

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you have six, six kids twenty one, eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>nine eighty six in a one year old. That's impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, I want to make sure my kids

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any college bills, so I work extra hard

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure when they graduate they start from zero.

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<v Speaker 1>You do have to work extra hard with six kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeare six kids, you can see six more. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got one wife and all my kids from one woman.

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<v Speaker 1>That is true. You know. You know what that was?

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<v Speaker 1>What college do that? I don't hear y'all talk about enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you learn other things outside of just getting a degree,

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<v Speaker 1>like meeting people, networking skills? That was another thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Me coming from New York, all I was about was

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<v Speaker 1>New York. But when I went to college, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a roommate from Mississippi. I had a roommate from Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a roommate from New Orleans. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>roommate from Jersey. So it opened me up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doing music to all those different areas of music and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, and in most cases, it's a safer

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<v Speaker 1>environment to a spot different things and learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>interact with people than the real world. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a buffer, it's like a step right before you on

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<v Speaker 1>your own. And that's why I'm not knocking these people

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<v Speaker 1>who say that it wasn't worth it to get a degree.

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<v Speaker 1>But are you just equating worth to monetization, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you probably got life lifelong friends, Like my wife

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<v Speaker 1>has her two best friends or from college, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, they're friends with twenty plus years. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that you touched on something that was

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<v Speaker 1>powerful you said in terms of a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>go to college just to pass. Correct, it's about why

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<v Speaker 1>you are there. But if you're there to learn and

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<v Speaker 1>actually get something from the experience, you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a different result than someone that's they're just to pass.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true to Like, I didn't want to go to college, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a DJ. I wanted to do music, but

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<v Speaker 1>in my family, I was the first person to go

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<v Speaker 1>to college in my family. Wow, So my parents were like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going, Like they wanted me to go to more

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<v Speaker 1>house and I was like, more houses too far, like

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted me to go. So for me it was

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing it more for them then for you're

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<v Speaker 1>not a more house man. You went Hampton was good

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<v Speaker 1>for you. I'm a Hampton man, sir. Yeah that's yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nothing wrong with being an I can call some

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<v Speaker 1>my more house people. Do you think's a more house man?

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought the Howard Howard, Oh my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to fight you in here. I'm about I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to fight you a here my money. I've been fighting

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life. Now five a five five one. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about college this morning. Now, we were saying a

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<v Speaker 1>majority of America's now thinking think getting a college degree

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<v Speaker 1>isn't worth What are your thoughts? And they're saying fifty

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<v Speaker 1>six percent of America's now say a four year college

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<v Speaker 1>degree isn't worth the cost. Let's talk about it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the breakfast club the morning