1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: Here we go. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: It's our number two on a Thursday. Patriots Jets tonight. 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: That feels like batting practice. We'll see how that works out. 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm reading another story this morning, Aaron 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: Rodgers under fire for Steelers downfall. 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 3: Why are you blaming Aaron? 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's offense has been unwatchable for like seven years. He 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: just stepped into their quicksand yeah. 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: But he's a Hall of Famer Colin. He's supposed to 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 4: solve the problems. I've seen this movie before. It was 18 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 4: with the Jets, and that's what we wanted Rogers to do, 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: bail us out, and he couldn't do it, and that's 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 4: why they got off of So he's now your problem Pittsburgh. 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: Through nine games, he is tied. He has the most 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: Steeler touchdown passes since Big Ben's last season through nine games. 23 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: That tells you not about Aaron Rodgers. That tells you 24 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: about the dysfunction of Pittsburgh. And Mike Tomlin does not 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: seem to think it's a pressing issue. Here was Mike 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: Tomlin this week talking about the clunker last week. 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna, you know, chalk it up to an 28 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 5: off night, But there are no long term concerns. I'm 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 5: just not going to allow your words to be my words. 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 5: That's all. Sunday night was what it was. But I 31 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 5: have no long term reservations about his ability to play 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 5: the position and play the position at a high level 33 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 5: for us. 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think in a Wi Fi world, they 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: feel like a dial up. In a digital world, they 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: feel analog. Remember years and years ago, Apple discontinued seventy 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: percent of its line because it wanted to concentrate like 38 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: on the iPad and the iPhone, And they just discontinued 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: seventy percent of their projects, prospects, products, whatever. I feel 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: like that's Pittsburgh. They should just get rid of about 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: seventy percent of their defensive contracts and pivot to digital 42 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: and their version of the iPhone. Like, I just think 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: they've got expensive contracts, they're old on defense. I think 44 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: they just have to make a complete cultural pivot to offense. 45 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins did this a few years ago from Brian 46 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: Flores to Mike McDaniel, and it worked for about a 47 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: year and a half two years. But I don't think 48 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: it's an Aaron Rodgers issue. I really don't. I think 49 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: their offense is quick sand and he stepped in it 50 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: and he's getting pulled down. 51 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: That's how I see it. 52 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: And with that, Greg Coself forty six years NFL Films 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: is joining us. Well, you know what, when you have 54 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears history, you can't worry about what it 55 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: looks like. If you're winning, you just gotta be really 56 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: you gotta be really happy about it. So I thought 57 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: last week I thought it was you saw some stuff 58 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: with Caleb. Now, I've always defended him. He doesn't throw picks, 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: and he's really durable. And we're watching Jackson Dark get 60 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: hurt and Jane Daniels get hurt and Penix. Caleb doesn't 61 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: get hurt high school, college, pro, and he does not 62 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: throw picks. Now, he holds the ball too long, but 63 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to guess that when you looked at the 64 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: film of this week, there were probably some things that 65 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: look like growth, because it felt like it on television. 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: I felt like I was seeing growth. Did the film 67 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: say that. 68 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 6: Well, he's uneven every week to a certain extent, there's 69 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 6: always plays where I know that when Ben Johnson and 70 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 6: Caleb Williams get together the next day go over the 71 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 6: film that Ben Johnson's going to point out a lot 72 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 6: of things. But he makes three to five plays every 73 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 6: game that are truly wow plays. 74 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 7: And he makes some incredible throws. 75 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: You know. 76 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 6: Now, it's really funny in this game because that winning 77 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 6: touchdown that he ran for a touchdown, which I believe 78 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 6: we're looking at right now, was really a really poor 79 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 6: decision that ended up with a great result because the 80 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 6: ball should have been thrown to Cole comment that was 81 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: the design of the play and he was wide open, 82 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 6: And why Caleb didn't throw it, I can't answer that. 83 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 7: But the point is the result turned out to be 84 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 7: a touchdown. But he made a. 85 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 6: Throw earlier in the fourth quarter to Burden on the 86 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 6: outside that was a wow throw. He makes a couple 87 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 6: of those every game. We've seen the throws he makes 88 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 6: on the run. Boy does he throw the bow well 89 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 6: on the run. But then there's also a lot of 90 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 6: plays where it's just too random, where he just doesn't 91 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 6: really have a feel for the pocket versus the route concepts. 92 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 6: So he's very, very talented, which I think we all knew. 93 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 6: I don't think that's a, you know, a bold, controversial 94 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 6: statement that he's really talented. 95 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 7: I'm not giving you a scoop, Colin. 96 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 6: But I think he's uneven in every game. It's just 97 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 6: last week they came back and won in the fourth quarter, 98 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 6: and they were down what fourteen with five and a 99 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 6: half six minutes to go, So that had a very 100 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 6: dramatic feel to it. 101 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 7: But every game he's a little uneven. 102 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 3: I want to talk about Buffalo. 103 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean, even great teams have awful weeks. Some Buffalo 104 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: players said it was ninety degrees in Miami. It was 105 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: a lot. We don't practice in it, we don't plan 106 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: in it. I think I worry more about the offense. 107 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: I thought they should have made a move of the 108 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: trade deadline to get a perimeter. Guy, do you see 109 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: going ahead? 110 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: Are you worried about Buffalo's offense? 111 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 6: I am, and for this reason, I've been worried about it. 112 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 6: For quite a while, and I've talked about it with 113 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 6: my guys, you know, at the office here. I think 114 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 6: that their past game in terms of concepts, combinations, is 115 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 6: very limited, and I think that what starts to happen 116 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 6: and you're dealing with a quarterback that, by his very 117 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 6: nature at times will leave throws on the field because 118 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 6: he moves so well and can make so many plays 119 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 6: off movement. So right now, he's not really trusting the 120 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 6: process the way quarterbacks need to. Now, maybe he's not 121 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 6: comfortable with the process, maybe he's not comfortable with his receivers. 122 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 7: But everybody talks. 123 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 6: About the fact cal on that they don't have a 124 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 6: big time number one, and that's true, but on a 125 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 6: certain level, there's a bit of a cop out element 126 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 6: to that, because when you don't have that guy, then 127 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 6: it's incumbent upon the offensive coordinator to create schematically ways 128 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 6: for the quarterback to have throws that are defined. You 129 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 6: can do that against man, you can do that against zone, 130 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 6: you can do that, and they don't really do much 131 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 6: of that at all. I mean, I see almost every 132 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 6: team in the league, so I see all these other 133 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 6: teams in what they do, and when you combine that 134 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 6: with the fact that Josh Allen at times is going 135 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 6: to leave the pocket prematurely and leaves some throws on 136 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 6: the field, you can have times where it just doesn't 137 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 6: look very good. 138 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: All Right, Detroit is at Philly this weekend, and what 139 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: I really want to talk about isn't the struggling Philly offense. 140 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: It's about Jalen Phillips, right, I mean I thought, I 141 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: mean in that game where you had a mic at 142 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: a Jalen Phillips, I thought he was so instrumental. 143 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: Immediately tell me. 144 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Jalen Phillips and what he adds to 145 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: that defense because he just jumped through the TV. 146 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it's funny. 147 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 6: I went back and looked at my evaluation of him 148 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 6: coming out of the University of Miami in twenty twenty one, 149 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 6: and I thought he was the best defensive end coming 150 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 6: out in that draft. I thought he checked every single box. 151 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 6: I mean, he's six', five he's two sixty. Five he 152 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 6: can do. Everything AND i think in a Vic fango 153 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 6: defense because Vic fanjo predominantly wants to rush for he 154 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 6: does not want to blitz a. 155 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 7: Lot that's not the way he wants to. 156 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 6: Play, now every coordinator will blitz if they can't get 157 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 6: any pressure on the quarterback because you have to speed 158 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 6: up the quarterback one way or the. Other BUT i 159 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 6: think when you're dealing With Jalen, phillips you're dealing with 160 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 6: a guy now that gives them a true edge defensive. 161 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 6: End you can even bring him inside at times if 162 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 6: you choose, to and he is a dominant. Force and 163 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 6: you saw that in the game against The. Packers but you, 164 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 6: KNOW i think we just need to say one thing 165 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 6: about This philly. 166 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 7: Offense i'm sure you watch the. 167 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 6: GAME i watched it on, tape obviously in, detail AND 168 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 6: i was, very very surprised and kind of befuddled a 169 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 6: little bit BECAUSE i felt WHEN i finished watching the, 170 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 6: TAPE i felt like they played that game to minimize 171 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 6: the impact That Jalen hurts was going to have on the. 172 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 6: Game AND i thought there was one play that really 173 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 6: stood out to. Me it was late in the third 174 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 6: quarter in a scoreless, Game Colin it was third and 175 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 6: twelve on the plus twenty six yard line going in 176 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 6: and they handed the. 177 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 7: Ball off To Will. Shipley they're giving. 178 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 6: Up that's a give up play to get a field 179 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 6: goal in a scoreless game When Jalen hurts is your. 180 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 6: QUARTERBACK i just felt that that AND i don't know 181 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 6: the reason, why but they played that game to minimize 182 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 6: search his impact on the, game and that really surprised. 183 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: Me, yeah after the bye last, year you, remember they 184 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: started taking throws away From Jalen. Hurts nobody knows a 185 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: quarterback more than the team that drafted a, quarterback and 186 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: they're telling you what they. 187 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 6: Think, YEAH i, mean that's it'll be interesting to see 188 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 6: because my guess Is sunday night against The, lions we're 189 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 6: not going to be looking at a ten to seven. 190 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 7: Game that would be my. 191 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: Guess, yeah all, Right Seahawks. 192 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: Rams one of the things that one of the things 193 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: that's fascinating about McVeigh is If DeVante adams is banged 194 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: up and he's supposed to, play he'll go to three tight. 195 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: Ends he's always done. That he reinvents. 196 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: Himself it feels like any, week what do you make 197 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: of what you've seen from The rams, offense which is so, 198 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: efficient no, Penalties stafford's AN. 199 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: Mvp what do you make of? 200 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: It on? 201 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: FILM i don't. 202 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 7: Think enough is being talked about regarding what they've. 203 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 6: DONE i, mean three weeks ago they went to three 204 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 6: tight ends really is the foundation of what they. Do 205 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 6: they've had forty percent basically or more three tight ends 206 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 6: in the last three. Games and keep in, mind in 207 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 6: the first five games of this, season they didn't have 208 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 6: one snap with three tight. Ends last year in twenty twenty, 209 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 6: four they had three snaps with three tight ends all. 210 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 6: Year so to dramatically make this kind of shift on 211 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 6: in the middle of a season is truly. Remarkable you 212 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 6: don't see that kind of dramatic change hardly ever in 213 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 6: The national football particularly in an. Offense and it's been 214 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 6: really effective in the last three. Games, okay just the 215 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 6: last three games where they've done, This stafford has thrown 216 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 6: eight touchdown passes when there have been three tight ends 217 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 6: on the field in the last three. 218 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 7: Games that's truly. 219 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: Remarkable, yeah It's seattle's a. Handful both these rosters are. 220 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: Loaded do you think The rams match up With seattle's aggressive. 221 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 6: Defense, yeah you're dealing with the two defenses that's on 222 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 6: the most of any team in the. League they don't 223 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 6: necessarily blitz a high, percentage but they're very aggressive with 224 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 6: their multiple stunt, concepts and they've got a lot of 225 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 6: defensive linemen up front who are very good at, that 226 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 6: whether they're penetrators where they're loopers and that's how they generate. 227 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 7: Pressure and they're very. 228 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 6: Aggressive AND i think an overlooked player is the rookie For, 229 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 6: Seattle nick E, minwari who's being used By mike McDonald 230 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 6: kind of the way he Used Kyle hamilton In baltimore 231 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 6: six three and a half six four two twenty Mn 232 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 6: warri can pretty much do. Anything they're using him as 233 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 6: a second level defender who basically can play the, slot 234 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 6: he can play in the, box he can be an overhang, 235 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 6: defender he can match up to tight. 236 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 7: Ends so's it's. 237 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 6: Been a really interesting sort of transition now that edm 238 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 6: And warri is. Healthy but This seattle defense has been 239 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 6: really really good and they play nickel because of Edmn 240 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 6: wori more than any team in the. 241 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: League, okay So denver Host Kansas city Is denver's, defense 242 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: which if they didn't have, it they wouldn't be winning these. 243 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 3: Games is it? Personel is it? Scheme what jumps off the? 244 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 6: Tape it's both Because Vance joseph is very good with 245 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 6: his blitz, concepts but because of the personnel on their, 246 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 6: front they can do what we call gap you, out 247 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 6: meaning that they can create one on ones with their 248 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 6: defensive front and they can win one on. Ones not you, 249 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 6: know people think Of, benito they think Of cooper on the, 250 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 6: edge But Zach, Allen Franklin meyers, inside they can win 251 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 6: one on. One so very often they line up in 252 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 6: five or six man, fronts which dictates what we call 253 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 6: five to zero, protection meaning that the offensive line matches 254 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 6: up one on one because they have someone in front of. 255 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 6: Them it's five or, six you, know players on the first, 256 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 6: level so they gap you, out they make you block 257 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 6: them one on, one and they can win those one 258 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 6: on one. 259 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 7: Matchups and again. 260 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 6: For the second year in a, row they're leading THE 261 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 6: nfl in, sacks and this year they're leading by a, 262 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 6: wide wide. 263 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: Margin Does Kansas city match up With denver Is Kansas 264 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: city's offense match up man on man blocking? 265 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 6: Them it'll be interesting because we Know Jowan taylor at 266 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 6: right tackle has struggled pretty much for the last number of. 267 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 6: Years he'll face Mostly Jonathan. COOPER i don't know If 268 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 6: Josh simmons is back this week or not playing left, 269 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 6: tackle but either, Way Nick benito is a. Handful so 270 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 6: at some point this might have to be one of 271 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 6: Those mahomes games where he moves around and makes, plays 272 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 6: which of course he's very capable of. Doing but they're very, 273 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 6: quick they're very. Strong The broncos with their front and 274 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 6: they'll call, it they pretty much caused problems for. 275 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: Everybody, okay so in the game In berlin that first, 276 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: HALF i thought The colts And Daniel jones. Dominated But 277 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: Daniel jones the last two weeks has started looking like 278 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: Old Daniel jones with ball security. Issues so, yeah he's 279 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: obviously the best he's ever. Been are you worried a 280 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: little bit on the fumble? Stuff what's the film? 281 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 6: Say, yeah the fumbling is is something he has to clean. 282 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 6: Up the other Stuff i'm not really worried. About it's 283 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 6: the fumbling that you cannot. Do but you, know keep in, 284 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 6: mind And i'm not sure a lot of people are 285 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 6: aware of. This we think Of Jonathan taylor and he's 286 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 6: obviously a great, back but The colts have the most 287 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 6: first down pass attempts of any team in the. League 288 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 6: so this is not just let's hand the ball To Jonathan. Taylor, 289 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 6: now he has a lot of first down rushes as. 290 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 6: Well he might be at the top of. 291 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 7: The league in. 292 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 6: That but they throw the ball a lot on first, 293 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 6: down and that is absolutely the best down to. Throw 294 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 6: So i'm not worried About jones throwing the ball as a, 295 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 6: passer but the fumbles have to be cleaned. Up you 296 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 6: JUST i, Mean i'm not saying anything a coach wouldn't, 297 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 6: say but you just can't do. 298 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 7: That but you, KNOW i think he's seeing the field. 299 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 6: Well even in The pittsburgh game two weeks ago where they, 300 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 6: lost he made some big time. Throws and you, know 301 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 6: WHEN i talk about seeing the, field we can basically 302 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 6: go to the play from last, week BECAUSE i think 303 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 6: this is a really good example of how they sort 304 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 6: of match up and how he make. Throws so let's 305 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 6: go to the touchdown he threw To pierce from last 306 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 6: week's game, overseas and we can see. 307 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 7: Exactly What i'm talking. 308 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 6: About so this is the touchdown he threw To, piers 309 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 6: which WAS i believe they're second. 310 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 7: Touchdown of the. 311 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 6: Game and it's a really interesting play because it's almost 312 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 6: the kind of play that makes you think they knew 313 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 6: what they were going to. Get, defensively here you See 314 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 6: jones he's basically in an empty. Formation there's no one 315 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 6: in the backfield with, him and what you're going to 316 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 6: get here is three receivers to the wide side of the. Field, 317 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 6: now notice they're kind of in a. Bunch, look, Okay 318 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 6: warren is the point man in the bunch And pierce is, 319 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 6: outside and they're tight to the. Formation they're, reduced so 320 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 6: they get what we call cover four. Quarters, okay AND i, 321 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 6: SAID i think they almost anticipated, This and you can 322 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 6: see what quarters is is you get the corner responsible 323 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 6: for his deep quarter and the safety responsible on that 324 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 6: side of the field for his. Quarter so what they're 325 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 6: going to do is they're going to attack that and 326 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 6: they're going to Take, warren WHO i said is the point, 327 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 6: man and he's going to run verse before he bends, 328 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 6: inside so that safety has to match him because what 329 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 6: quarters essentially is is man to man with. Rules and 330 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 6: Then pierce is going to run the deep post and 331 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 6: you're going to get the corner now matching. Him but 332 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 6: because of the reduced, split the corner is playing with 333 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 6: with and depth and that's really important in quarters because 334 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 6: that's going to impact why this. Works so what you're 335 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 6: going to see here is the safety has eyes On 336 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 6: warren as he has to because that becomes his man 337 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 6: responsibility on a vertical, stem and you see he's going 338 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 6: to bend, it but he's releasing vertically right at the. 339 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 6: Safety then you're going to get the. Corner now he's On, 340 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 6: pierce but he's outside of, him and he's playing with 341 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 6: with and, depth AS i, said because of the reduced. 342 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 6: Split so now what you're going to get is you're 343 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 6: going to see that the safety once he realizes that 344 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 6: the ball is going to not go to war and 345 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 6: he's going to try to turn, in he's turned. Inside 346 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 6: so he's not really a factor on this, throw even 347 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 6: though it looks that. 348 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 7: Way by the end of the, play he's not really a. 349 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 6: Factor so what you're going to get now is you're 350 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 6: going to get and you see the body position. 351 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 7: There of the. 352 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 6: Safety he's not going to be a factor at, all 353 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 6: And jones knows that because this is really what we 354 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 6: call a Quarters beata route. Concept and then you're going 355 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 6: to Get pierce to the post with the corner playing 356 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 6: outside of, him and he's not going to be able 357 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 6: to play. This it's very hard to play the post 358 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 6: from an outside leverage, position So jones throws to absolutely 359 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 6: the right guy. Here pierce goes up and get it 360 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 6: and gets. IT a lot of people might look at 361 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 6: this and, think, oh he threw into double. 362 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 7: Coverage he did not throw into double. 363 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 6: Coverage this is exactly what you want when you have quarters. 364 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 6: Coverage you want an outside post and the inside attacking the. 365 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 7: Safety so this was really well. 366 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 6: Designed, again made me think they were anticipating the. Coverage 367 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 6: But jones column is still playing at a really high. 368 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 3: Level by the, way let me just throw this out. 369 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: There we were talking about this, earlier is that we've 370 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: Watched donald And baker be reborn and take team friendly. 371 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: Deals i've been Watching Mac jones Without piersoll and WITHOUT 372 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: iu doesn't have his top two. 373 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 3: Guys And i'm not disputing how. 374 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: Valuable, Kittle christian, McCaffrey And shanahan, Are but what is 375 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: when you look At Mac. Jones my take IS i 376 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: think he's the Next donald And baker that you could 377 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: get a very team friendly. DEAL i think he tells 378 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: a good. BALL i don't think he's nearly as athletic 379 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: As donald. Does the film say he's AN nfl starter 380 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: because his numbers safe. 381 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 6: In a specific, SYSTEM i, MEAN i think he's in 382 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 6: the perfect. System it has to be. CHOREOGRAPHED i don't 383 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 6: think he works for. Everybody you, know keep one thing in. Mind, 384 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 6: now granted they don't have a vertical dimension in their, 385 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 6: offense there's no question about. That but he's not necessarily 386 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 6: a vertical. Guy he's a timing and rhythm. PLAYER i 387 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 6: think if you sign, him AND i think he can 388 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 6: start in the League, colin BUT i think the system 389 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 6: it has to be a very good marriage between system and. 390 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 6: Quarterback he's nowhere near as talented As. Darnold he's not 391 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 6: as talented a passor As, baker so he has to 392 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 6: be the correct. 393 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 7: Fit he will not work for. EVERYBODY. 394 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: J mack loves hearing that he's A brock pretty. 395 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 6: Guy party's more, Talented perty's more. 396 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: Talented oh look at THE J. Mack oh my perks, 397 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: Up Greg, COSELL i appreciate. It, okay so he Said, 398 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: Brock perty's more. TALENTED J, Mack but it should be 399 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: noted availability does. Matter so it'd be nice IF i 400 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: get you, know pretty would be. 401 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: Available but you, Know. 402 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: I'm glad that WHEN i Say perty is more, talented you. 403 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 4: Scoff but MISTER Nfl films, says perty's more. Talent oh 404 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: wait a, minute, no, listen we know, This. Okay can 405 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 4: we Get Kyle shanahan on the show? 406 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 8: Callin can we? Try can we talk To dave and 407 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 8: make that? 408 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 4: Happen LIKE i Think shannan will tell, You Brock purtty 409 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: is one of the most talented quarterbacks in the. 410 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: League he's not going to tell you that on. 411 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 4: Air assessing, WISE i, mean Brock purdy is lights out his. 412 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 8: Story how can you not love his? 413 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 4: Story you're practically an underdog from the sticks in in 414 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 4: in The northwest and becoming a radio. Jugger NOT i, 415 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: mean that's brock purty. Story dead last pick in the. 416 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 4: DRAFT i Don't stories are not what wins. 417 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 8: Game he was within seconds of winning A Super bowl 418 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 8: if his defense could get a. 419 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 4: Stop he Led mahomes in overtime in The Super. Bowl 420 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: the defense can't get a? Stop what do you want 421 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: from the? 422 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 3: Guy, well so Was Rex. Grossman you know that a 423 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: lot of people get. 424 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: The bears quarterack stop. IT a lot of people get 425 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: close to that. Ring Jimmy garoppolo was a play away 426 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: from that. 427 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 4: Ring No, no in, Overtime Brock purdy drove them down 428 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 4: the field for a field goal to take the lead 429 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 4: against The. 430 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: Chiefs, okay was that the game on the other Six he. 431 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 8: Didn't you are such a? Hater oh my. 432 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: God one more. Heard The herd streams twenty four hours a, 433 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: day seven days a week within The iHeartRadio. App Search 434 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 2: herd to listen live or on demand whenever you. Like 435 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: Fox Sports radio is taking over YouTube and you can 436 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: be a part of. 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Away 444 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: J mark feeling himself a little bit now That Greg 445 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: cosell has said it brought. 446 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 8: Pretty there's a lot of crazy stuff happening around the 447 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 8: league right. Now, Colin oh MY, goshnfl have you made 448 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 8: your picks? 449 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: Yet? YEP i got all five In in, FACT i 450 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: would Put iowa plus six and a. 451 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: Half AGAINST sc IF i did college. PICKS i bet 452 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 4: that this. Morning, yeah now. 453 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 3: It's gonna be little. 454 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 8: Rainy have you seen the weather report for this? WEEKEND 455 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 8: i don't. 456 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: Know it's gonna be crystal clear and sixty one In. 457 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: Chicago how ABOUT la enjoy. 458 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 8: It it's gonna be rainy. EVERYWHERE i don't. 459 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: Know i'm gonna have to have to put a raincoat 460 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 4: on my dog WHEN i walk my. Dog it's like 461 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: a two times a year. Thing i'm Not LA's not 462 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: prepared for, rain as you know very. 463 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: Well, Iowa. 464 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: Iowa i'm gonna TAKE usc like twenty, eight twenty. Seven, 465 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: yeah IF i could include a college pick in my blazing, 466 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: FIVE i would Take iowa plus the points in WET 467 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: saggi LA usc. 468 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 8: Wins though they will win the, GAME. 469 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 3: I think they. 470 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 8: Will. 471 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 4: LISTEN i think they're gonna Give oregon more of a 472 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 4: game than people. Think i'm just gonna put that on. 473 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 4: RECORD i think it depends On oregon's. Health oregon has 474 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: been beat, up all their skilled players beat. Up if 475 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 4: they are they've got a shot Because oregon's a big 476 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: playoffense AND usc is very susceptible to giving up the big, 477 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 4: play WHEREAS usc can be a big, playoffense But oregon 478 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 4: doesn't give up big. Plays so when you go on 479 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: the when you go on the rowd and you're susceptible 480 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 4: to big, Plays oregon usually lambs a few of those. 481 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: Punches that's what would worry. 482 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 8: Me At Texas georgia. Pick by the, WAY i Like. 483 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: GEORGIA i Like bama to Beat. 484 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: Oklahoma, YEAH i don't know why people Like oklahoma and no. 485 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 8: ONE i Think alabama wins that, one AND i think 486 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 8: they cover as. 487 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 3: WELL J mack with the, News. 488 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 8: Turn on the. News this is The Herdline. 489 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 4: News let's start things off With Baker mayfield And Josh. 490 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 8: Allen did you know they are. Buddies this will be the. 491 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 4: Third time they've matched up since being selected in the 492 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 4: twenty eighteen. Draft they got a good relationship off the 493 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: field and have let the jokes. 494 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 8: Fly ahead a head to head this. 495 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 9: WEEKEND i have to walkie talking to him because he's 496 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 9: so damn, tall SO i can't really have a face 497 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 9: to face conversation with. Him but you, know In, buffalo it's, 498 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 9: cold it's. Rainy even though he's six.' ten his hands, 499 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 9: are small so he better wear. 500 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 10: His gloves baker wears two, gloves golfing so he's that type. 501 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: OF guy. 502 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 8: I love. 503 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 10: The guy, he's awesome, you know kind of how his 504 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 10: career has progressed in. The adversity he's fought through and playing, 505 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 10: some really really dang good football. 506 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: Right now by, The way i've never known anybody that 507 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: plays golf with. 508 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 8: Two gloves i've never. 509 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: HEARD that i did hear from my golfing buddies out 510 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: Here in La That. Josh allen, you know he bought 511 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: a place. Out here he joined a very famous. Golf 512 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 4: club i'm not a part, of IT but I Hear 513 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 4: josh allen's a really. Good, GOLFER now i, don't know 514 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 4: is this two gloves thing that's a that's a thing. 515 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 4: In golf do we have any staffers who, are. 516 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: Playing by, THE way i am playing the Day, after 517 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: thanksgiving Not in chicago in a cold. Weather, location, yeah. 518 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: Whoa you're just, a. 519 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: Busybody huh they just told me some information about you. 520 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: This weekend you got some stuff, cooking there huh in 521 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: the In The. WINDY city. 522 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 3: I do i. 523 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 8: Like It that's i'm happy. 524 00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 7: For you. 525 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 8: The guy, all right let's move on to the. 526 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 4: Next story and just because you know You, like chicago 527 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 4: we're going to Talk More ben johnson And. 528 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 8: The Bears. 529 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 4: Caleb, WILLIAMS colin i know you're very excited about. His 530 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 4: development you keep leading the show, with him much to 531 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 4: the chagrin of. The, Audience However ben johnson is talking 532 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 4: About watching caleb. 533 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 8: Evade defenders he's great with. 534 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 7: His legs, I'm thinking i'm the best Coach. IN america 535 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 7: a play call? 536 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 11: In, IT no i think that's That's the that's the 537 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 11: beauty behind what we have going right now, is uh, 538 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 11: you know as a, coaching staff we try to we 539 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 11: try to get that primary receiver open as much as, 540 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 11: we can and sometimes the defense doesn't cooperate. With you 541 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 11: and And so caleb knows that if if we can't 542 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 11: get one to two or if, you know he's feeling 543 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,239 Speaker 11: the pressure that he's he can still make us right 544 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 11: and we can still have a. Good PLAY so i 545 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 11: think that's that's a cool thing about where we're at. 546 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: Right now think. About this if You're a. Bears Fan. 547 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: Dan campbell just took over play calling duties with, his 548 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: offense and they're Going. 549 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: To philadelphia not. 550 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: Great, For Detroit green bay is, lost Offensively and minnesota 551 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: doesn't really know a year from now who the quarterback 552 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: is a year, you said can You Say, CHICAGO Bears Nfc. 553 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: North champion that slow, your role. 554 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 4: My, FRIEND however i will note you said thee their 555 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 4: quarterback a year. FROM now jj McCarthy dealing with a. 556 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 4: Hand bruise this is breaking. Right now limited a practice 557 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 4: took no throws during the. Open, PORTION okay i had 558 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 4: to look up their backup quarterback Now Because carson wentz. 559 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 8: Is cooked it's a gentleman by the Name. 560 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 4: Of, max brosmer highly, touted rookie but he has a 561 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 4: rookie so that's. Not, great however let's go Back to caleb. 562 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 4: Real quick so you Obviously. Love caleb ONE thing i 563 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 4: noticed was he was on that final drive Against the 564 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 4: giants column he wasn't throwing. 565 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 8: As much as he was Just like i'm gonna tuck. 566 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 4: And run we know that's, not sustainable but we did 567 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 4: drill down on his numbers passing outside, the pocket and what. 568 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 8: We found is not not. Particularly great when he's evading. 569 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 4: Pressure and running outside, the pocket it's completing forty three 570 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 4: percent of. His, passes colin that's, not great and it's 571 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: all dink. And dunk let me quickly get rid. Of 572 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 4: it look at the passer rating cut in half outside. 573 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 4: The pocket so, it's again he's a work. In progress 574 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: he's certainly. Not polished he's certainly Not. Brock purty there's some. 575 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 8: Encouraging. 576 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 4: Signs mccollin does this concern you at All that caleb 577 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 4: on the run not? 578 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: As, EFFECTIVE well i Think What greg cosell said is 579 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: EXACTLY what i see and what. You see while five 580 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: times a game you're like jaw. Dropping wow but. It's 581 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: uneven he's running when he. Should pass it's just not. 582 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: Quite Right but i've defended quarterbacks, for years Including bo 583 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: nix your first two to three years in, the league 584 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: that if you're, an athlete until you really FIGURE out, 585 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: nfl defenses use your feet to move The chains i've 586 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: set Up. WITH bownicks i Think bo nick should run 587 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: more when. HE struggles i said It with, Lamar, early 588 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: dude pick up. 589 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: First downs you're. 590 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 1: Going to develop in the pocket. Over TIME so, i 591 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: again these guys have played nine. GAMES together i think. 592 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: IT'S fine i think when you have the ability to 593 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: pick up first downs running do IT because i don't 594 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: think any of, these Guys. Including mahomes mahomes admitted, year 595 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: three everything. Slowed down mahome's pretty. Sharp guy, Year three, 596 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: brady admits, year four. Year, five Okay now i've. Seen 597 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: everything so in, That Process jared goff doesn't have. That 598 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: advantage he had to just learn he needed. Great Protection 599 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: so i'm going to defend guys running to move, the 600 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: chains Be It, jackson Dart bow Nicks. 601 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: Or caleb so the problem is a bunch of those 602 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 4: guys keep. Getting Hurt jackson dart keeps, Getting, hurt okay. 603 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 4: And Quickly baker mayfield calm one of the CRAZIEST stats. 604 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: I saw so all the beginning of, the season he 605 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 4: was elusive in, the pocket scrambled remember Against, the texans. 606 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 8: Killed me Against, the niners he had that. 607 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 4: Memorable run How's this colin the last, Three Games baker 608 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 4: mayfield has not, scrambled once has not. 609 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 8: Run once is. 610 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 4: It because he got injured in one of the games 611 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: and he's not talking. 612 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 8: About it there's a reference to an. 613 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: Oblique injury when you leave, the pocket you're susceptible to 614 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: getting drilled by linebackers and safeties because they're. 615 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 8: HEAD hunting i would. 616 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 4: Be Careful if caleb's running six seven times, A game 617 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 4: i think they're probably. 618 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 8: Losing or he's. Getting hurt would, You, agree. 619 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Well they're winning this, weekend again this is one of. 620 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: These Games the vikings are the favorite and. 621 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: They're, desperate well there's. Seasons over if they lose, this 622 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: game they're not getting to. 623 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: The PLAYOFFS and jj McCarthy now is. Not practicing HOW 624 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: do i not Like. The bears technically he's. 625 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: At practice he's just not throwing with the, media there 626 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 4: which is. 627 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: Maybe, worse WELL if i Was at fox but, WASN'T 628 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: talking i wouldn't be hosting my show at. Some point 629 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: you've got to if you're. NOT practicing i. Don't know 630 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: it's like sometimes you need breaks in. A SEASON if 631 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: jj is, not practicing a young guy that needs, to 632 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: practice that's a break For. The. 633 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 8: Bears yeah a, Final story let's Go To. Austin. Reeves. 634 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 4: Unbelievable colin he is top seven IN the nba in 635 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: scoring and assists. 636 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 8: This season. Just unbelievable he's a great. 637 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 4: Talent here he has last Night, against okay see look 638 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: at Him. Attacking, HARTENSTEIN yeah i should have got the foul. 639 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 8: Call, there anyways, You know i'm Very. 640 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: Pro reeves how, About this there are reports out there 641 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: That the lakers have turned down wait, for it twenty 642 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 4: offers in the last Year For, austin reeves and that 643 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 4: the report goes on To say polinka is only interested 644 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 4: In dealing reeves in a Package for Yannis. 645 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: Or, jokic Well it's. 646 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 4: Polinka's guy he's very Loyal To. AUSTIN reeves I mean 647 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: i did LAUGH when i first. 648 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: Heard, THAT well i, SAID before i would have if 649 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: when You when Dallas, traded luca if you'd have given 650 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: me A D austin reeves in a first, Round pick 651 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: lakers lose. That, deal, yeah yeah then it's a really. 652 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: Interesting deal austin's a. GOOD player i think he's. A 653 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: three i think He's Like. Derek white you can win 654 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: a championship if he's your three or. YOUR four i 655 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: don't think you're winning a Championship of austin's your one of. 656 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 8: Your Two austin reeves is much Better Than. 657 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 7: Derek. 658 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 8: White please. 659 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: First, Of All derek white's an elite defender and an 660 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: elite three. 661 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: Point shooter jared when. 662 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: He's got a stacked Deck with Tatum and brown. In, 663 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 4: company now What Is derek white? Right, Player Well austin 664 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: reeves is the number two option On a lakers team 665 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 4: that was eight and three before the game. 666 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 8: Last night, so like let's not you seem irrationally Down, On, 667 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 8: Reeves colin. 668 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 3: I'M not i just think he's. 669 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: A three i don't think he's a one or. A 670 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: Two that, minnesota series they picked, on him. 671 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 8: They did he. 672 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: Not living you're not picking on one and, Two's. 673 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: Well anthony edwards picking on you. Is different for, The 674 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: record reeves was asked about this upcoming free you tell 675 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 4: me if this sounds like a. HOMETOWN discount i want 676 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 4: to Be. 677 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 8: IN la i. Love it even though the extension was. 678 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 4: Turned down it doesn't Mean that i'm out here trying 679 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 4: to get a bleeping. GIGANTIC number i want to, BE 680 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 4: here i want. 681 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 8: TO win i. Like It, SO reeves i think you 682 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 8: can get him. 683 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 4: For not paying him, the max and then you can 684 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 4: get another, quasi star Not An anthony davis because they're not. 685 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 4: Doing that but you can find a number three next 686 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 4: Year once. Lebron's GONE and. 687 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: I Think austin reeves obviously has value because you just 688 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: reported that twenty offers have come down. The table denver 689 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: is Never. Trading yokich milwaukee, is reticent reluctant To trade, 690 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: JANNIS thought i what have a? Year, ago yeah so 691 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: it's easy To say i'll only trade him for. 692 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: Those two you're not getting. 693 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: Those, two so by, the WAY The Nba All star 694 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 4: game is now Like the world AGAINST. The Us austin 695 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 4: reeves is going to Be An all star this year 696 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 4: for sure because he's one of the what FIFTEEN best 697 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: us players IN. THE nba i would argue he's probably 698 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 4: one of the Six best american players in the IN. 699 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 4: The nba austin rees is again twenty eight and eight 700 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 4: so far. This season he had a band of off night. Last, 701 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 4: night whatever. 702 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: One of the Sixth best american players IN. 703 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 8: The nba do we want to? 704 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 7: Do? 705 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: THIS no. I, DON'T actually i don't want to waste 706 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: the audience's time. 707 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: ON that i really don't want to. 708 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 4: Do It middle America Loves hillbilly kobe as they. 709 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: Call It. 710 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 3: Austin Reeves j mack With. 711 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: The, news well that's, the news and thanks for stopping 712 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: By The Herd line new be sure to catch live 713 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: editions Of the herd weekdays in noon eastern Nine am 714 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: Pacific On Fox SPORTS radio fs one And the iHeartRadio. 715 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 4: App Start your saturday Strong as michigan Clashes with northwestern 716 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 4: at a very, special Venue Historic. 717 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 8: Wriggley field it all Starts with. 718 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 4: Big noon kickoff at Ten, am eastern live From the Heart. 719 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 4: Of chicago Rumors Are colin coward will make. An appearance 720 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 4: Then It's Michigan Northwest Big noon saturday Only. 721 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 8: On Fox. 722 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: Thinks hummond cubs made, The, Playoffs bears i'm telling you, 723 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: Right now minnesota. IS struggling jj McCarthy's not. Practicing today 724 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: detroit offensive Coordinator Basically dan campbell stepped in and took 725 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: over the play. Calling duties. Not Good And green. Bay's 726 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: lost so It's the caleb. Ben thing it's a work. 727 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: In progress. It's Fascinating but i'll, Say this i've Defended 728 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: bow knicks on This and I'll. Defend caleb when you're a, 729 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: young quarterback if, you're winning it's kind OF all i, 730 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: care about as long. 731 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 3: As you're not getting in the way. 732 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: Of Winning bow knicks has been great and fourth Quarters 733 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: And caleb williams has been really great and. Fourth quarters 734 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: that's and they're. Both durable you give. Me durability you're. 735 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: GREAT late i worry when you're great on script. And 736 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: stink remember the first couple Of weeks caleb was good, 737 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: on script wasn't, after that. Worries Me bo nix isn't 738 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: very good. On script. Caleb's fine they're actually later in 739 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: games when you got to. Make plays they use, their 740 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: athleticism have a sense. Of urgency they're. Both good Here's 741 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: co Sell on caleb what. 742 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 6: He sees there's always PLAYS where i know That When 743 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 6: ben Johnson And caleb williams get together the next day 744 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 6: and go over the Film That ben johnson's going to 745 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 6: point out a lot. 746 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 7: Of things but he makes. 747 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 6: Three to five plays every game that are truly, wow 748 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 6: plays and he makes some. 749 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: Incredible, throws yeah the put UP the nfl schedule. This 750 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: week it's a very very good weekend. For GAMES and 751 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: i don't think you can. Underscore this Detroit's at philly 752 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: that could be. A Loss if Chicago, beats, minnesota boy 753 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: this gets really interesting Because that detroit Outdoors at philly 754 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: that feels like An L that philadelphia is one of 755 00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: my favorite picks of. 756 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 3: The weekend so keep. 757 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: Your eye this is a big Moment For new york 758 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: and Sometimes, for chicago and sometimes you. Need breaks and 759 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: my feeling IS if jj McCarthy's not gonna play and 760 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: you don't really know what you're doing, at quarterback that 761 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: may be. 762 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: The break the other thing we. Talked about jmack brought. 763 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: This up it's a huge weekend For the chargers because 764 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: If the Chargers beat Jacksonville and Denver Topples kansas city, 765 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: At Home kansas city is not winning. That division that 766 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: means they're gonna have to go on, the road. No 767 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: arrowhead So the bears And the chargers are in really. 768 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: Good spots they control their destiny. This weekend, Any, game 769 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: jaymack that jumps out to you on. 770 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 4: This board so this big numbers guy he comes on, 771 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 4: My Podcast, AARON shatz i don't know if you. Know 772 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 4: him If the chargers Beat, the jags they are ninety one. 773 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 8: Percent making the playoffs based on. 774 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 4: Future schedule if, they lose it drops a fifty, eight 775 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 4: percent essentially a coin Flip. To jaguars if they lose, 776 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 4: this game only a nineteen percent chance at. The playoffs 777 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 4: so that opens the door for someone to sneak in 778 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 4: a wild. Card spot could It be pittsburgh when they 779 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 4: get passed By. The ravens there are some huge swing games. 780 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 4: THIS weekend i actually think if you Look at, MINNESOTA 781 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 4: schedule i don't know if we can call That. Up 782 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 4: colin this is must win for them or their season. 783 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 4: Is Over the viking schedule is just brutal down, the 784 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 4: stretch and you like, to say they don't even have, 785 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 4: A QUARTERBACK so i don't see a path to the playoffs. 786 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 4: FOR them i Think the bears obviously have a much, 787 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 4: better Shot but minnesota's schedule is just too difficult. 788 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 8: To get in. 789 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 4: The PLAYOFFS and i saw My Guy van grinkles. Not 790 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 4: practicing he's hurt all season and he is a game 791 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 4: changer off. The, edge yeah this is a real Moment 792 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 4: For harball herbert And, The Chargers caleb benn And. 793 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 3: The bears this is a. 794 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: Real moment and if you're going to be a, playoff 795 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: team these are the games you have. 796 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 3: To win it's not a. 797 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: Big ask can YOU beat jj McCarthy or can you 798 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: Beat the jags who really have no home. Field advantage 799 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: so the playoff, picture TODAY and i THINK the nfc 800 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: playoff picture is mostly what it's going to look like, 801 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: right now the playoff picture IN The, Nfc, Philadelphia, Seattle, Detroit, Tampa, 802 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: Rams Bears, Green Bay san francisco on the. Way out 803 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 1: THAT'S kind i think that kind of looks like If 804 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: the bears win, this weekend that kind of looks. 805 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 3: Like it's one of. The GOOD now afc. 806 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: Is Different It's, Colts Denver, New, England, Pittsburgh, Chargers. BUFFALO 807 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: jacksonville I think baltimore wins, Their division pittsburgh gets, bumped 808 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: out no wildcard from, that DIVISION and I Think kansas 809 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: city gets in if they win. This weekend, if not 810 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: all bets. 811 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 3: Are off so. 812 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 8: Team To Watch. 813 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 4: HOUSTON texans i know they've been garbage and they've killed 814 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 4: me at the. Gambling Window davis mills in line to 815 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 4: start this week There Against. Tennessee colin maybe they're the 816 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 4: team that Bypasses, the jags because again that defense is. 817 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 4: Pretty Nasty Stingley Will, anderson hunter. THEY'RE formidable i do 818 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 4: wonder if they could play Spoiler if mills can get 819 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 4: to win this weekend And then stroud comes back from, 820 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 4: the concussion perhaps with Your Guy, Woodie marks really he 821 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 4: looks sharp in THE backfield i don't know how closely 822 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 4: you're Watching, the texans but they are A dangerous maybe they. 823 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 3: Sneak, IN Yeah i texans schedule. Is brutal you don't 824 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 3: want to go there With. 825 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: The texans their Schedule is bills At the colts At. 826 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 3: The chiefs. 827 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 4: Forget, it Well that chiefs. Game swing i'm on a. 828 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 4: ISLAND here i still don't Think the chiefs are a 829 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 4: lot for. The playoffs i'll kind of look like, a, fool, 830 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 4: which hey it happens to all. 831 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 8: Of us, you know they. Sneak in, BUT yeah I 832 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 8: think i'm gonna Take. The broncos i'm taking. 833 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: The Points, come yeah this is one of the best 834 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: weekends in. A While bears vikings means. A ton I 835 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: think Tampa. And buffalo buffalo has to win. THAT game 836 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: i think. They Will chargers jags a lot riding. On 837 00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: It seattle rams game of, The year i'm going. Potential 838 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: upset keep your eye On The cleveland Browns Hosting. Baltimore 839 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: ravens Third. Straight roadie it's going to. Be called the 840 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: defense By the browns at home is not only the 841 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: best in, the league it's the best by a. Long 842 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: shot cleveland, at home go look At The cleveland browns. 843 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: Depth chart their defense has. Dudes everywhere They really they've 844 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 1: drafted pretty well on the. Defensive side they just got 845 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: to find. A Quarterback, Kansas city, Denver's Massive Detroit. Philly 846 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: massive there are like six huge swing games. 847 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 3: This weekend hour, three next