1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: We've got Mohammad al Arian standing by Bloomberg Opinion columnists, 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: President of Queen's College, Cambridge. Mohammed, let's stal with the well, first, 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: what do you make of that? 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Wow? I mean, what an amazing job report. It just 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: confirms that this is an exceptional labor market that's going 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: to feed into the exceptionalism of the US economy. I 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: do think it's a bit of a headache for the 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: FED because of the wage growth numbers. Lots of people 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: have been warning about wage growth, about service inflation, and 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: that just we emphasizes that morning. And then finally for 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: your markets, Look, this means March is off the table. 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: March should have been off the table for a while, 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: as you and I have discussed, but this means March 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 2: is off the table. It also means that you are 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: more likely to get the three cuts that the FED 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: has signaled three to four, rather than the higher number 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: that the market has been romancing. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: I think that May is potentially off the table too, Muhammed, 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: given the fact that we're seeing wage pressures that are 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: going in the wrong direction for the FED. 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 2: You know, I was with you last week and I said, 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: June is what I think should happen and what I 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: think is likely to happen, and that this report just 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: feeds into that. 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 4: Mohammad, So what do you think it means in terms 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 4: of the US election? Can they cut closer to the 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 4: election now? Given March is off the table, what's the 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: window they actually have? 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: So Anria, I'm going to ask you whether you think 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: the FED is influenced by politics. I tend to believe 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: the view that the FED is apolitical and that they 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: will do what they think is right for the administration. 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: This is a two sided sort because on the one hand, 34 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: it is good for them that the economy is doing 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: so well. On the other hand, there is concern that 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: as you get closer to the election, you start is 37 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: going to start getting the weakening that results from buffet 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: balance sheets havn't been used to power this economy. So 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: you know, it's good news for them right now, but 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: I think that they have to keep an eye to 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: what's going to happen closer to November. 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: I'm looking through these numbers and the revisions are just 43 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: sort of stunning as well. I mean, everything is just 44 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: being revised up to the upside. Also just coming in 45 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: hotter than expected. Mohammad, what do you make of that, 46 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: the fact that people are getting it wrong, and they're 47 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: not getting it wrong for the weakness. They're getting it 48 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: wrong for the incredible strength under the hood that's behind 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: some of the strength that we've seen so. 50 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: Far, and that has been the consistent story, Lisa for 51 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: the last eighteen months. You know, I keep on reminding 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: people that going into twenty twenty three, the consensus is 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 2: consensus was recession. We ended up with a nearly five 54 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: percent growth rate in the third quarter, three point three 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: percent in the fourth quarter. Estimates suggest that strength remains 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: and pending corrections from Mike McKee, who's looking at the 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: details this at first sight and I just had a 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: very quick quick glance, it looks like a very broad 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: based strength. So this is not something that you can 60 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: easily assume a way. This is something that you have 61 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: to take seriously. This economy is still strong in a broad. 62 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Base, Muhammad, stay close if you are just joining us. 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: Blowout jobs report