Speaker 1: I love the music.
Speaker 2: I not only love to see things happen, I love
Speaker 2: to make things happen, and so I hope to continue
Speaker 2: to do that. There's an old saying, I'd rather wear
Speaker 2: out than to rust out, and that's kind of my
Speaker 2: philosophy too.
Speaker 3: I'll start and I thank you so so very much
Speaker 3: for allowing us to do this and to review your
Speaker 3: beautiful new book. It's really a fun book, wonderful photographs,
Speaker 3: really really great and I can't wait to start to
Speaker 3: try some of the recipes. I am so pleased to
Speaker 3: welcome to my podcast today to talented beautiful ladies. Dolly
Speaker 3: Parton is one of the most celebrated female singer songwriters,
Speaker 3: a performer who crosses the genres of country, bluegrass, gospel,
Speaker 3: and rock. She has written three thousand songs and earned
Speaker 3: eleven Grammy Awards. She made her mark in film with
Speaker 3: her iconic roles in Nine to five and Steele Magnolia's
Speaker 3: two of My Favorite movies. Her sister Rachel has had
Speaker 3: success in music and acting as well, performing in her
Speaker 3: band Honey Creek and acting in the television version of
Speaker 3: Nine to Five. And they share a love of cooking
Speaker 3: and have published a cookbook Together, Good Looking Cooking. Welcome
Speaker 3: to my podcast, Dolly and Rachel. Where are you right
Speaker 3: this minute?
Speaker 2: We are in Nashville, Tennessee, at our studios over here
Speaker 2: in Antioch, a little town not far from Nashville, and
Speaker 2: we have been so.
Speaker 1: Excited to get to talk to you. We both love you.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. And you're beautifully dressed in pink.
Speaker 3: Is that your favorite color, Dolly?
Speaker 2: Well, actually all of all colors, but we're actually kind
Speaker 2: of dressed to match the cover of our cookbook.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Indeed, is that trifle that you're holding on the cover?
Speaker 1: Yes? Is banana pudding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just gorgeous. And I think that it is
Speaker 3: so iconic for two sisters to be able to work
Speaker 3: together like this, be photographed page after page in the book,
Speaker 3: and every single image is just delightful and tasting, and
Speaker 3: the two of you are equally so. The foods, the
Speaker 3: food's great. Now, there are a couple guys in this book.
Speaker 3: Who's at the barbecue?
Speaker 1: That's my husband Eric George.
Speaker 3: Oh, is he a performer too?
Speaker 4: No, he is not, Ella And I asked him to
Speaker 4: be in the book and if he would if he
Speaker 4: would do the grill work the grill and he said, well,
Speaker 4: I'd love to, and he had such a good time.
Speaker 4: He doesn't know much about music business or show business,
Speaker 4: so he was quite taken with it.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 3: His ribs and steaks look really good.
Speaker 1: Yes, very good.
Speaker 3: So you're both performers in music and acting. What made
Speaker 3: you decide to work on a cookbook together? Is there
Speaker 3: a backstory?
Speaker 2: Well, actually, we both loved cook Rachel is a very
Speaker 2: good cook, and she's loved doing it all of her life,
Speaker 2: and so the fact that we both lived close together
Speaker 2: and we're all often getting together to cook, one day
Speaker 2: we thought, well, why don't we just put out a
Speaker 2: cookbook together? And it just seemed to be the perfect
Speaker 2: thing to do. And there's an old Hank Williams song
Speaker 2: called Hey.
Speaker 1: Good Looking, why don't you got cooking hounds? About cooking
Speaker 1: something up with me?
Speaker 2: So anytime anybody would go in our house, we'd say, hey,
Speaker 2: good looking, what.
Speaker 1: You got cook? So we just thought that would be
Speaker 1: a cute name for the book.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a perfect name coming from both of you.
Speaker 1: By the way, Rachel is truly the best cook.
Speaker 3: Well, you talk about coming from a long line of cooks.
Speaker 3: Tell me what Neils you remember that your mom made
Speaker 3: for you is it was MoMA an equally fabulous cook.
Speaker 4: Her mother was a great cook. She could make anything
Speaker 4: taste good. She made everything that and she would create
Speaker 4: a story to go with it, kind of like Dolly does.
Speaker 1: She was a great storyteller.
Speaker 4: And our mother could cook a lot of chicken and dublin.
Speaker 4: She would make for us fried chicken, one of our favorites,
Speaker 4: and it was just a joy to be in her kitchen.
Speaker 1: She was a singer also.
Speaker 2: She used to all my mom's people are mom's people
Speaker 2: are musicals. So there was a lot of music going on,
Speaker 2: and MoMA knew all those old songs from the old
Speaker 2: world that were brought over, uh you know when people
Speaker 2: came over here to settle, and so the cooking is
Speaker 2: a lot like the old world too.
Speaker 3: I think, well, what part of what part of the
Speaker 3: old world, Dolly? Where are you talking about in Europe?
Speaker 2: Yes, And my mother's people were from Wales and descended
Speaker 2: from there. My dad, the partner, mostly from England, so
Speaker 2: we had people scattered all around.
Speaker 1: So the old world.
Speaker 2: Of those old songs Irish and the Scottish songs brought over.
Speaker 1: Mama would sing and she.
Speaker 2: Would cook, and we would cry when she'd sing some
Speaker 2: of those old songs.
Speaker 1: We would laugh when she sing the fun ones.
Speaker 2: So we really, I think just music and cooking is
Speaker 2: kind of embedded in us. And we had a good
Speaker 2: time singing along when we were putting our cookbook together
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: When both of you were growing up, where did the
Speaker 3: food come from? Did you go to grocery stores for it?
Speaker 3: Did you grow it?
Speaker 1: We grew our food.
Speaker 4: We would have a garden and Mama would can and
Speaker 4: then that would be our food through the winter. And
Speaker 4: we had a farm and we would grow everything that
Speaker 4: we needed.
Speaker 3: Did you have chickens for eggs?
Speaker 4: We had chicken. We had eggs. We had a cow
Speaker 4: milk and cow we had milk.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've done everything, but the cows I've had I've had.
Speaker 3: I have donkeys and horses and chickens and geese and
Speaker 3: turkeys and grow all my vegetables. But I never had
Speaker 3: a milk. I really loved to have a milking cow.
Speaker 3: But there are a lot of work, aren't they. Did
Speaker 3: you learn how to milk Dolly?
Speaker 2: Well, we all had to learn how to milk because
Speaker 2: we all had to do our personal chores around the
Speaker 2: house and living on a small farm, like a forty
Speaker 2: acre farm, and more than just a garden, we often
Speaker 2: raised real crops, you know, just kind of fields of
Speaker 2: tomatoes and fields of corn. And that's how we kind of,
Speaker 2: as Rachel mentioned that, we'd put away the food, and
Speaker 2: we had fruit trees, and we had our you know,
Speaker 2: we can the fruits, and we raised our hogs, and
Speaker 2: so we had a lot of you know, that's all
Speaker 2: country people were like that. That's how you kind of
Speaker 2: make your living. And mom and you how to cook everything.
Speaker 2: Plus our dad and our brothers were big hunters, so
Speaker 2: we often had a lot of game and knew how
Speaker 2: to prepare all that as well. So we just grew
Speaker 2: up eating good and having good food all around all
Speaker 2: the time. So that's just a big deal for us
Speaker 2: to have those great recipes from our aunts and our.
Speaker 1: Cousins and a lot of the men.
Speaker 2: We had a brother that was a really good cook.
Speaker 2: He loved cooking all the same things that we actually cooked.
Speaker 2: We lost him a few years back, but we thought
Speaker 2: he was just one of the best cooks ever. So
Speaker 2: it's not just confined to the women in the family.
Speaker 2: A lot of the boys liked to cook as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: I would have loved to seeing you milk and cows,
Speaker 3: the two of you. We know how we oh, I
Speaker 3: know how I've milt, I've milk cows also. But I'd
Speaker 3: like to see Dolly part in Milk and the Cow.
Speaker 3: I think you should do a film. You should do
Speaker 3: a little House on the prairie.
Speaker 2: Dolly and I don't think any cow.
Speaker 1: Would we need to milk them? Now with these nails?
Speaker 3: No? No, was there always enough food for twelve children? Really?
Speaker 3: You had twelve siblings altogether?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's six girls and six boys.
Speaker 3: Wow, I thought I was from a big family. I
Speaker 3: had three boys and three girls in our family. So
Speaker 3: you had double what we had. And over what period
Speaker 3: of time did your mom have all those twelve kids?
Speaker 1: Twenty years? Yeah, yeah, she was thirty five.
Speaker 2: Mom got married when she was fifteen and daddy was seventeen.
Speaker 2: And by the time mom was thirty five and daddy
Speaker 2: was thirty seven, they had had all of us twelve kids.
Speaker 3: We got one set of toy and so she was busy.
Speaker 1: She was. It was eighteen months and two years different
Speaker 1: in all our ages.
Speaker 2: Wow, Mom was still a young woman and we were
Speaker 2: still you know growing up.
Speaker 3: Well, what a fantastic story. How long did she live?
Speaker 3: Your mom?
Speaker 1: She passed away when she was about eighty uh huh.
Speaker 3: So she lived a good life life with the success
Speaker 3: of all her fabulous children. How wonderful she must have been.
Speaker 3: So proud of you. So you have a recipe in
Speaker 3: the book for corn bread which I cannot wait to
Speaker 3: try because I love cornbread and it was inspired by
Speaker 3: your mom. It says, what's the secret of good corn bread?
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's an iron skillet.
Speaker 4: I think the skillet has to be really hot when
Speaker 4: you put the batter in, and your oven needs to
Speaker 4: be hot.
Speaker 3: And where'd you get your corn meal?
Speaker 4: Well, we would grow corn when we were younger, and
Speaker 4: Beatty would take it to the mill and they would
Speaker 4: make the corn meal.
Speaker 3: Oh great must be Did you use cream or milk
Speaker 3: in your corn bread?
Speaker 1: Mostly? I use buttermilk.
Speaker 3: Now, Oh delicious, I can't wait. So when you started
Speaker 3: writing the cookbook together, did you each make a list
Speaker 3: of what you wanted to include? Were they recipe similar
Speaker 3: or do you have a lot of a a lot
Speaker 3: of discussion about what to put in the book?
Speaker 4: We were writing list of all the things that we loved,
Speaker 4: and then I would say I really love this reciped
Speaker 4: all I would say, I love that. Let's see if
Speaker 4: we can't combine these. So we had enough for two cookbooks,
Speaker 4: and then we had to condense it down, and then
Speaker 4: it started getting like, okay, now I really like this
Speaker 4: one and I really like that one. So that came
Speaker 4: to be what is in our book now, which is
Speaker 4: a little over.
Speaker 1: Eighty recipes bout eighty two I think eighty two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a generous book. There's a lot of stuff
Speaker 3: in this book.
Speaker 2: One of the things I was most impressed with, which
Speaker 2: is really was Rachel's complete idea, is how she wanted
Speaker 2: to do instead of just having recipes, she wanted to
Speaker 2: plan complete meals because a lot of people don't know
Speaker 2: how to put together a meal. You're great at doing
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. I'm showing people how to start
Speaker 2: from scratching and do it. But I thought that was
Speaker 2: a wonderful way to do it month by month like that,
Speaker 2: and to have great things.
Speaker 3: And you celebrate special occasions throughout the year, which is
Speaker 3: very very nice. And yet you were growing up in
Speaker 3: a one room cabin in Tennessee, and how did you
Speaker 3: make holidays special in a one room cabin, where'd you
Speaker 3: keep the decorations?
Speaker 2: But actually we lived in different places when we were
Speaker 2: very when our family was small, we lived in the
Speaker 2: one room. Of course, that had to start, you know,
Speaker 2: we had to start expanding from that because we had
Speaker 2: to have place put all them kids, and we would
Speaker 2: move to different places in the community after so many years,
Speaker 2: but we always had a house full, and MoMA knew
Speaker 2: how to take care of a house full, and we
Speaker 2: kind of it was just a lifestyle with us. We
Speaker 2: never thought about whether or not we were cramped or crowded.
Speaker 2: We were just a family and that's just how we lived.
Speaker 2: Food was good, and mom and Daddy were good, and
Speaker 2: we just were proud to be together.
Speaker 3: What did your dad do farmed?
Speaker 4: Well, farming was his full time job and he you know,
Speaker 4: of course he had to do that because they had
Speaker 4: so many children. And then I remember Dad mostly when
Speaker 4: he was working away from home, he worked on construction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had to have some way to bring in
Speaker 1: some money.
Speaker 2: But Daddy, after he started having a house, little kids
Speaker 2: that could kind of take care of the crops and
Speaker 2: a daddy went to work on construction, you know, to
Speaker 2: bring in more money. Our money crop was tobacco, and
Speaker 2: that's kind of how at the end of each year
Speaker 2: we all worked the tobacco fields. But at the end
Speaker 2: of each year that was you know, that was we
Speaker 2: often lived on just the money brought in from the
Speaker 2: tobacco crops. But as I mentioned, as we started to grow,
Speaker 2: we needed to have more money coming in.
Speaker 1: So Dad would get up.
Speaker 2: Early, start as farming, do what he needed to do there,
Speaker 2: go to work, work all day on construction, come back,
Speaker 2: still work in the fields, still way after dark. So
Speaker 2: that's just kind of how you do it when you
Speaker 2: live in the mountains and when you're just country people.
Speaker 3: It sounds like it's a movie.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's been a few movies. We've done a few
Speaker 1: movies of my life and that involved the whole family
Speaker 1: and our dad and all.
Speaker 3: And what's your favorite holiday memory? Do you have one
Speaker 3: each of you?
Speaker 4: Well, one of my favorite holiday memories I was working
Speaker 4: in La on nine to five. I was so homesick
Speaker 4: I could hardly stand it, and I could not leave
Speaker 4: because we were still working. And Dully went to our parents'
Speaker 4: home and of course a lot of our brothers and
Speaker 4: sisters were there and could they all got on the
Speaker 4: phone high we miss you and all this, and of
Speaker 4: course it should have made me feel better, but it
Speaker 4: made me even sadder at that moment. So everybody packed
Speaker 4: up the giar that were for me, and Dolly flew
Speaker 4: to la and I picked her up at the airport
Speaker 4: and she said, Okay, you didn't miss dinner after all.
Speaker 4: And guess what I was wearing, Martha, my Santa Claus outfit,
Speaker 4: all across the country in a Santa suit with Rachel's presence,
Speaker 4: and and there was just a few people on the
Speaker 4: plane that night, and we were singing Christmas songs and everything.
Speaker 4: And then when Rachel came to pick me up at
Speaker 4: the airport, and here I walk out dressed like Santa.
Speaker 1: But that was yeah, that was that was a good
Speaker 1: memory for me as wellcial special Christmas.
Speaker 3: How fantastic. So, Rachel, you are a collector of cookbooks.
Speaker 3: I've read. Which do you rely on most?
Speaker 4: Well, right now I'm relying on good looking cooking.
Speaker 1: Go back to that. You are one of my favorite cooks.
Speaker 1: I love your show, I love.
Speaker 3: Your books, Thank you.
Speaker 1: I love all books. I love Trisha Yearwood.
Speaker 4: I love her family and her stories a lot like
Speaker 4: us to me, A cookbook is my favorite read. That's
Speaker 4: how I relax. That's what I read when I'm traveling.
Speaker 4: And I have people to say, don't you ever get
Speaker 4: tired of reading cookbooks?
Speaker 1: I never have gotten tired of it.
Speaker 3: I have a book coming out. It's my hundredth cookbook.
Speaker 3: One hundredth book, not nine hundredths cook my hundredth book.
Speaker 3: And uh, I'm getting like you, Dolly, I'm gonna you
Speaker 3: have hundreds and hundreds of records and three thousand songs.
Speaker 3: I only I only have one hundred books, So I'm
Speaker 3: way I'm way behind you, my dear.
Speaker 2: Well, no, you're pretty pretty popular, gal. You're not known
Speaker 2: as a great cook. You're you're known as a great person.
Speaker 3: And thank you.
Speaker 1: He's a friend of mine.
Speaker 3: But the but it was really hard to find. It
Speaker 3: was really hard to choose the hundred of my favorite recipes.
Speaker 3: That's what this book is with all the little stories,
Speaker 3: the stories to go with those recipes. So lots of
Speaker 3: Big Martha, my mom and uh and various and sundry friends.
Speaker 3: And it's a fun it's a fun project to do
Speaker 3: a book like this. I admire you for getting together
Speaker 3: and and really doing the whole thing. Are any of
Speaker 3: these recipes the inspiration for some of your your Duncan
Speaker 3: Hines products, Dolly.
Speaker 2: No, not really, we were actually involved in thinking about
Speaker 2: the cookbook.
Speaker 1: But the Duncan Hins.
Speaker 2: We do have a lot of good desserts in our book,
Speaker 2: but they're mainly handed down through family and friends. But
Speaker 2: the Duncan Heins, they do have great products, as.
Speaker 1: You well know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you probably used that through the years too
Speaker 2: for handy stuff, not that you couldn't start from scratch,
Speaker 2: which I'm sure you do most times.
Speaker 3: Well, when when you have a big when you have
Speaker 3: a big family, you sometimes rely on those delicious mixes.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes you do so uh, But we have great
Speaker 2: things in that. We have a lot of wonderful Southern recipes,
Speaker 2: but the book is not all Southern recipes. We have
Speaker 2: collected a lot of other wonderful things. And as Rachel says,
Speaker 2: she collects recipes and she loves cookbooks, and we have
Speaker 2: lots of friends that cook, And that's.
Speaker 1: Rachel's I have to answer to say.
Speaker 2: I'm a good cook, and I cook because I love
Speaker 2: to eat and I love to cook through my mom
Speaker 2: and my aunts and my grandma's did. But Rachel just
Speaker 2: she really loves cooking like you. She reminds me a
Speaker 2: lot of you, and how devoted she is to it,
Speaker 2: and how much she loves it, and how much time
Speaker 2: and effort she puts into it, the studying of it,
Speaker 2: the science of it, I guess, so to speak, not
Speaker 2: just to put it all together. And Rachel's food always
Speaker 2: looks really good, and that's one of the reasons I
Speaker 2: thought good looking cooking would also fit with that. Not
Speaker 2: that she ain't good looking, because she is, but she
Speaker 2: can make food look good and taste good in the
Speaker 2: same way.
Speaker 1: That you do.
Speaker 3: You know, I love your Thanksgiving. The whole chapter on
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving is so enticing. The turkey looks amazing, the mashed
Speaker 3: potatoes look amazing. The corn bread stuffing that's the kind
Speaker 3: of Thanksgiving I like, and it looks delicious. I can't
Speaker 3: wait to try your corn bread stuffing and your pumpkin
Speaker 3: pie and your cranberry mold. A very nice Thanksgiving chapter
Speaker 3: in this book. And you both look amazing in these pictures.
Speaker 3: Who does your hair and makeup? Ladies?
Speaker 1: Different ones?
Speaker 2: Well, I come, I'll make up, and then I have
Speaker 2: a girl shore riddle that's been doing my hair for years.
Speaker 2: I'm handy because I wear a lot of wigs and
Speaker 2: I'll stay so busy.
Speaker 3: That's worked out well for me. Oh yeah, but your ma,
Speaker 3: your makeup is always impeccable. You always look great. I
Speaker 3: have hard time doing makeup. I don't know why I have.
Speaker 3: I have a very nice makeup artist who who comes
Speaker 3: and you know, fixes my face, but I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't like doing makeup very much. But you you are
Speaker 3: always impeccably made up.
Speaker 1: Oh well, we like looking pretty, Yeah, you do.
Speaker 3: And you've looked You've looked pretty for all really long time, ladies.
Speaker 3: It's really nice.
Speaker 2: Well, actually, you've been looking pretty good. I might bring
Speaker 2: up your swimsuit cover. I think it's amazing that you
Speaker 2: and I are older women and I'm doing Dallas cowgirl
Speaker 2: outfit and you're on the cover of the swim suit.
Speaker 2: I think, wow, you go girls.
Speaker 1: I should say, yay.
Speaker 3: That's what I said. That's what that's what I say.
Speaker 3: I think. I think. I think we're really good role models,
Speaker 3: don't you.
Speaker 1: I hope. So I know we're lucking our pump pumps.
Speaker 3: So I understand there was a Martha in your family
Speaker 3: who is Martha.
Speaker 2: Well, Martha Williams probably Aunt Martha, we called her. She
Speaker 2: was the lady that that was my first memory. We
Speaker 2: lived my dad was sharecropper for many years and was
Speaker 2: when I was born, and we lived on her farm,
Speaker 2: and my first memory was of an old lady named
Speaker 2: Martha Williams. We called her Aunt Martha, and she would
Speaker 2: set me on her knee and say tiptoe tiptoe lit
Speaker 2: a Dillyparton, tiptoe tiptoe. And she's got a red dress.
Speaker 2: She's got nine she's got a red.
Speaker 1: Dress just like mine.
Speaker 2: And I was so amazed as a little kid how
Speaker 2: she knew a song with my name in it. So
Speaker 2: she was my favorite Martha.
Speaker 3: It's so enjoyable talking to you. I can help believe
Speaker 3: I'm talking to Dolly Parton, so amazing. Rachel Day was
Speaker 3: thirteen years old when you were born. Can you talk
Speaker 3: about what your relationship was like? Was she really a
Speaker 3: good big sister? She was she friendly? Was she a
Speaker 3: little haughty? What was what goes on in a family.
Speaker 4: I remember as a child that Dolly was one of
Speaker 4: my favorite sisters, favorite people. I was one of those
Speaker 4: kids sisters that every time she turned around it's like,
Speaker 4: oh they were again. Oh, aren't you going to go home? Oh?
Speaker 1: She was wonderful.
Speaker 4: I know that she'd let me play in the makeup,
Speaker 4: all her makeup. She would let me get anything out
Speaker 4: of the closet of hers to wear. Well, I think
Speaker 4: she would say, we just put it back so I
Speaker 4: know where it is.
Speaker 1: But you can wear anything you have. And no, Dolly
Speaker 1: was a wonderful sister and still is.
Speaker 2: And Rachel was the hugest little thing when actually I
Speaker 2: was in I started high school and Regil started to
Speaker 2: grow up, and I rode the school bus. We lived
Speaker 2: back in the country and the school boys had to
Speaker 2: come way up there in the mountains, and I would
Speaker 2: she would cry when out leaving in the morning, and
Speaker 2: she'd be waiting on the porch when the bus would
Speaker 2: drop me off, and she'd just, you know, she was
Speaker 2: just excuse a little thing. I just remember sweeping her
Speaker 2: up in my arms and just hugging on her. And
Speaker 2: so we've been close all all of her life.
Speaker 3: And we still are a close with your other four
Speaker 3: sisters too.
Speaker 1: Yes, we are very close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're close. Rachel and I live close to each other.
Speaker 2: A lot of my sisters live in East Tennessee, and
Speaker 2: so Rachel and I live here in Nashville, so we
Speaker 2: get to be usy See, I told you I was
Speaker 2: the kid's sister that is always reappearing.
Speaker 4: We live close together, our homes are close together, so
Speaker 4: it's really easy to go to each other's house.
Speaker 3: Where are you in the lineup of siblings? A, Dolly,
Speaker 3: where are you are you? Number two? Three?
Speaker 2: I have a sister and two brothers older than me.
Speaker 2: I was fourth one down, and then there's eight kids younger.
Speaker 3: Wow, and where were you? Rachel?
Speaker 1: I'm twelve?
Speaker 3: You're Oh, you're the last, You're the baby. Ah ho fun, so, Dolly.
Speaker 3: When you're writing a cookbook, there's a lot of testing
Speaker 3: and tasting recipes. Who did all the cooking for the
Speaker 3: tasting and the testing?
Speaker 1: We both did.
Speaker 2: Rachel, like I said, it is the better cook, and
Speaker 2: I was happier to get to.
Speaker 1: Do the tasting.
Speaker 2: But I would do whatever she told me to do,
Speaker 2: because she she would make me have to, you know,
Speaker 2: do some of the dirty work. So while she really
Speaker 2: cooked the big meal, and she'd call it me, say.
Speaker 1: You're not doing it right, and to do it?
Speaker 2: I said, I know, I said, you want to do
Speaker 2: the good looking cooking. Mine's not always pretty, but it
Speaker 2: tastes good. So we kind of swapped it out and
Speaker 2: we really tried the recipes. But as I mentioned, Rachel
Speaker 2: is this serious one.
Speaker 4: Now, I will have to say, Dolly is a fantastic cook,
Speaker 4: a great cook.
Speaker 1: Dolla is very creative in the kitchen.
Speaker 4: I tend to follow recipes and Dolly tends not to
Speaker 4: follow rest It's goods, always delicious.
Speaker 3: I cogot Mama always always are you sure? Always delicious?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It is always delicious, is the way I like it.
Speaker 1: So it's usually tastes good because I'm the bigger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you keep saying you're a big eater, Dolly,
Speaker 3: you're what size is your waist?
Speaker 2: Well, right now it's not big, but it's been every
Speaker 2: size it has.
Speaker 3: I have never seen your waist bigger than like twenty inches.
Speaker 1: Well, even when I was better, my waist was smaller.
Speaker 3: I know, how do you do that? I'm thin, but
Speaker 3: I have a fat waist. How are you, Rachel? Do
Speaker 3: you do you have a tiny waist? Rachel?
Speaker 1: Well, I have a small waist.
Speaker 4: It's not as small as it used to be. What
Speaker 4: you have children it's all right.
Speaker 3: Oh you're beautiful. But do you wear Do you wear
Speaker 3: a corset? Dolly?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, I don't. You should see Dolly. Dolly is sitting
Speaker 3: in a stand up. Can you stand up? Can I
Speaker 3: see what you're wearing? She has this amazing pink Oh
Speaker 3: you have a bustie on. Yeah, and her waist is
Speaker 3: about twenty is it twenty or eighteen?
Speaker 1: I don't even know what it is now.
Speaker 3: Carolina, Carolina Herrera came to my house one day for lunch,
Speaker 3: you know, Carolina Herrera, the designer. We were all laughing
Speaker 3: about eating too many popovers, and she said, you know,
Speaker 3: your waist is supposed to be the circumference of your head.
Speaker 3: Now have you ever done that? Have you ever measured
Speaker 3: your head and to see if your waist is the
Speaker 3: same number of inches?
Speaker 2: No, I just know that my waist is small and
Speaker 2: my feet are small because nothing grows in the shade.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. But try it.
Speaker 1: Try it.
Speaker 3: Measure your head and measure your waist and let me
Speaker 3: know if they're the same mine. I'm way off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll have sister night.
Speaker 3: Why when I when I was nineteen, when I when
Speaker 3: I got married, my head was my waist was smaller
Speaker 3: than than my head, but now it's not. It's not
Speaker 3: small in my head.
Speaker 2: That would that be without my wig or with this.
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll try that. We're not drinking wine, we'll
Speaker 2: measure our heads.
Speaker 3: So what's what is your what's your glam routine? Everybody
Speaker 3: wants to know because Dolly Parton is how old are you? Dolly?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm seventy eight.
Speaker 3: She is seventy eight years young. She looks amazing. What's
Speaker 3: your glamor what's your routine? What do you What do
Speaker 3: you do to keep so utterly beautiful?
Speaker 2: I say, just good lighting, good makeup, and good doctors.
Speaker 1: How do you do it?
Speaker 3: See? I always say good doctors. Also just nice doctors
Speaker 3: who just take care of my general health and a
Speaker 3: and a very good dermatologist, very good skincare, and good diet.
Speaker 3: Did you smoke that tobacco that your dad grew No?
Speaker 1: I never did smoke.
Speaker 3: That's good. And what about you, Rachel, did you ever smoke?
Speaker 4: Well, I'll have to say I have smoked, yeah, many
Speaker 4: years ago.
Speaker 3: But I was just curious because tobacco was such a
Speaker 3: huge thing when you were growing up.
Speaker 4: Me too.
Speaker 3: I mean everybody's. Everybody around me smoke. My dad smoked
Speaker 3: a pipe. My mother had one cigarette at night, sitting
Speaker 3: at the kitchen table after she'd washed all the dishes
Speaker 3: and put the kids to bed. She would sit very
Speaker 3: glamorously at the kitchen table with a cigarette and her fingers.
Speaker 3: And I always thought that that was so sexy, you know,
Speaker 3: it was such a beautiful image because my mom was
Speaker 3: real pretty and I always just remember that image of her.
Speaker 3: But she lived in ninety four and she was healthy
Speaker 3: as could be. But she always said, you know, eat well,
Speaker 3: don't smoke, don't drink, and do you drink anything? Do
Speaker 3: you ever drink alcohol?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, on occasion, no special occasions.
Speaker 2: But it's like the old man that went to the
Speaker 2: doctor said, doctor, I don't smoke, I don't drink, I
Speaker 2: don't run around with women, and I expect to live
Speaker 2: to be a hundred. And the doctor said, well, if
Speaker 2: you don't, it's gonna damn sure seem like it.
Speaker 3: See, TOLLI has all these stories, so she raised all
Speaker 3: these songs. She is a poet, and I mean, here
Speaker 3: you are. It's just like we're recording this at about
Speaker 3: one o'clock in the afternoon, and she is dressed like
Speaker 3: she's going on stage, with her fabulous makeup, her fabulous hair,
Speaker 3: the fabulous corset top, she's boosted a top. Do you
Speaker 3: have pants on her skirt?
Speaker 1: I have little pants, little pedal pushers.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, pedal pushers. Very very very very cute. And
Speaker 3: so when are you not? Oh naturelle? I mean, just
Speaker 3: do you go to bed with your Do you wash
Speaker 3: your face completely when you go to bed?
Speaker 1: It depends on why I am.
Speaker 2: If I'm in la I do not because I don't
Speaker 2: want to have an earthquake and have to run out
Speaker 2: in the streets. So then I'll clean it in the
Speaker 2: morning and put it on fresh. But I mean, I
Speaker 2: can tear down, but I just do it when I
Speaker 2: need to, when I have to. I'm like dressing up,
Speaker 2: but I'm like everybody else. I can be slouchy slashy
Speaker 2: when I need to.
Speaker 3: So do you how do you control your image? Do
Speaker 3: you have that final say on every picture that is
Speaker 3: published of you? Well?
Speaker 1: I try to. You don't always.
Speaker 2: It depends on who's taking it anymore. If I actually
Speaker 2: published the shots and uh things from magazine covers. We
Speaker 2: try to have control of that because you want to
Speaker 2: look your best.
Speaker 1: Everybody does, of course, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just like on our Good Look and Cook. And we
Speaker 2: took so many pictures and we had so much fun
Speaker 2: doing it. We were laughing and so many and so
Speaker 2: how many days?
Speaker 3: How many days of photography? Was this in your book?
Speaker 3: Because there's really there are lots and lots of images
Speaker 3: and lots of outfits.
Speaker 1: We had two full days of photography.
Speaker 3: That's all. Yes, you should see the Valentine's one. Oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, it is so cute. Where'd you get that
Speaker 3: heart apron? From Rachel.
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: Our friend and wardrobe person, Steve Summers had made that
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 3: I was saying that Dolly had a tiny waiste. Your
Speaker 3: waist is tiny, also, was your mother like that? Was
Speaker 3: your mother a tiny waisted woman.
Speaker 1: With twelve kids? No hers like this like a watermelon mostome?
Speaker 2: But actually I think that did run in Mama's side
Speaker 2: of the family and dad is I remember my dad's
Speaker 2: sisters having very small waists, and our aunts, you know,
Speaker 2: when they weren't bring it, had small waist lines.
Speaker 3: Well, gorgeous, Dolly, you worked with many legendary people in
Speaker 3: show business. What did you learn from I'm working with
Speaker 3: my friend and your friend, Sandy Gallon. He was such
Speaker 3: an impresario.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, Sandy was great. As you mentioned, he
Speaker 2: always threw the best parties. We talked earlier, and he
Speaker 2: was always had so many celebrities that would come to
Speaker 2: his parties. But I just loved meeting all the different people,
Speaker 2: and Sandy was one of my dearest and best friends
Speaker 2: ever and I miss him greatly. I'm often seeing things
Speaker 2: that remind me of Sandy, But I just like knowing
Speaker 2: all kinds of different people, whether they're celebrities or not.
Speaker 2: But I know that knowing Martha Stewart has been a
Speaker 2: big deal to me, and a lot of people love you.
Speaker 2: You have a huge following and a lot of friends
Speaker 2: as well. I'm not just saying that because we're on
Speaker 2: your show. I've said it before.
Speaker 3: You've been such a phenomenal business woman in addition to
Speaker 3: aazingly prolific and wonderful performer, vocalist, songwriter. You famously negotiated
Speaker 3: your career out of the hands of your mentor and manager,
Speaker 3: Porter Wagoner. Why do you think you were able to
Speaker 3: do that when so many other women have struggled to
Speaker 3: control their own careers.
Speaker 2: Well, I think at the time I started with Porter,
Speaker 2: I had actually come to Nashville to be my own star,
Speaker 2: and I looked up that I got to start a
Speaker 2: big time with Porter because he had the number one
Speaker 2: syndicated show at the time.
Speaker 1: And when you offered me the job, I'd already had.
Speaker 2: A couple of chart records and I was kind of
Speaker 2: on my way, and so I told him that I
Speaker 2: would stay for five years. I wound up staying seven.
Speaker 2: But we had a lot of duets together. But we
Speaker 2: just kind of we were like oil and water, so
Speaker 2: to speak. And I never really figured out if we
Speaker 2: were so much alike we couldn't get along, or that
Speaker 2: we were so different, but we were friends. We just
Speaker 2: kind of bashed heads, and he had his dreams and
Speaker 2: I had mine, and I just felt that I had to.
Speaker 1: Go and keep no climbing on that.
Speaker 2: Ladder of success, as they say, And didn't go over well.
Speaker 1: With him, and we had our problems.
Speaker 2: He sued me a couple of times, but at the
Speaker 2: end before he passed, we had become friends again and
Speaker 2: I had done some shows with him, had him on
Speaker 2: my variety show, and I was with Porter, you know,
Speaker 2: the day he died, so we made full circle and
Speaker 2: that was all good.
Speaker 1: But I just had to stand my grounds.
Speaker 2: Getting back to your original question, I just wasn't going
Speaker 2: to take somebody else's idea of who I was and lived,
Speaker 2: you know, under their rule. I had my own identity
Speaker 2: and I had to fight to keep it and I'm
Speaker 2: still doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, good for you. And during that time, is
Speaker 3: that when you wrote two of your most famous songs,
Speaker 3: Jolene and I Will Always Love You?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I was love your song was kind of
Speaker 2: my leaving song. Port or Not had so many problems
Speaker 2: and so he was never listening to me. So I
Speaker 2: went home and wrote the song, went back the next
Speaker 2: morning and said, sit down, I've got a song to
Speaker 2: sing for you.
Speaker 1: And so I sang.
Speaker 2: The song and he started crying and said, that's the
Speaker 2: best song you ever wrote, and you can leave if
Speaker 2: I can produce it. I said, it's a deal. So
Speaker 2: I was out there. And the Jolene song, though, that
Speaker 2: was that was about my husband. That was about a
Speaker 2: good looking gal working at the bank that I just
Speaker 2: got a little jealous of, without I guess any real
Speaker 2: good reason. He was just flirting with her, and it
Speaker 2: just gave me that idea she was a redhead and
Speaker 2: her name wasn't Joline. I made that up to protect
Speaker 2: the guilty.
Speaker 3: So so real life emerged as fantastic popular music. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's how you write your songs. You write the music,
Speaker 3: you write the words to all three all those three
Speaker 3: thousand songs is of both your your words and your music.
Speaker 1: Yes, I write all the things.
Speaker 2: And actually, at the time I said I wrote three
Speaker 2: thousand songs, that was three.
Speaker 1: Thousand years ago. That was a long time ago.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I have many I've written a thousand more
Speaker 2: since I said that at that time.
Speaker 3: So, Rachel, what kind of advice did Dolly give you
Speaker 3: about your own singing and acting career as the baby
Speaker 3: in the family.
Speaker 4: Wonderful advice. She said, you be yourself and you be
Speaker 4: who you are. You can't be me, you can't be
Speaker 4: anyone but you, and I have always tried to be me.
Speaker 4: I know we look alike, but we are different people.
Speaker 4: And I always admire that advice, and I think about
Speaker 4: it often and thank you.
Speaker 2: And you're welcome, and I still mean that.
Speaker 3: We have another person in common, Dolly. We have Charles Koppleman,
Speaker 3: who produced your big hit that brought you from country
Speaker 3: to more mainstream radio play Here You Come Again. How
Speaker 3: separate were those music worlds at the time that you
Speaker 3: made that crossover.
Speaker 2: Well, they were completely different. And Sandy Gallen had just
Speaker 2: come on as my manager. I was just leaving Porter
Speaker 2: and so I got with Sandy and Charles Kappelman is
Speaker 2: a man that he just has a great ear for
Speaker 2: hit records, and everybody knew that, and he was a
Speaker 2: friend of Sandy's.
Speaker 1: So Charles brought Gary Klein had produced.
Speaker 2: The song, actually the arrangements and all that on Here
Speaker 2: You Come Again.
Speaker 1: So they sent me these songs.
Speaker 2: And I heard that one. Actually, my husband picked that song.
Speaker 2: My husband, also, like Charles, has a great ear for music.
Speaker 2: And I was listened to all these songs out in
Speaker 2: the den, and when I started playing the here You
Speaker 2: Come Again song, Carl had walked down the hall. He said, well,
Speaker 2: there's your hit right there, and then he just walked
Speaker 2: back in the kitchen and I thought, well, that's the
Speaker 2: one I'm picking. So sure enough, Charles and Carl were
Speaker 2: the ones that made me decide to do that particular song,
Speaker 2: and that was really the change in my life that
Speaker 2: really started my career off on a larger scale into
Speaker 2: the pop field.
Speaker 3: Amazing, amazing. Can we talk about the importance of owning
Speaker 3: your own work? Is your entire library in your hands?
Speaker 2: It is now when I think, anytime you're young and
Speaker 2: in the business, you have to make certain sacrifices, You
Speaker 2: have to compromise, You have to do things in order
Speaker 2: to get ahead. Nobody can just start demanding things, you know,
Speaker 2: before you've even made it.
Speaker 1: So I had a few songs.
Speaker 2: Scattered around here and there in the early days with
Speaker 2: Combine Music and Tree Publishing Company, the people that I
Speaker 2: started with. But then after I became started to become famous,
Speaker 2: I started trying to find ways to get my songs back,
Speaker 2: and I started my own poishing company, Velvet Apple, like
Speaker 2: the fruits of my labor. In fact, I named it
Speaker 2: that because I was in Beverly Hills one time and
Speaker 2: I saw these apples laying on velvet and these apples
Speaker 2: were like, gully, I don't know, like ten dollars an
Speaker 2: apple or some ridiculous things, and I thought, well, boy,
Speaker 2: those MUCKs be velvet apples. So I got the idea
Speaker 2: to have my to name my poshing company that. But
Speaker 2: since then I've owned my own songs through the years,
Speaker 2: I've managed to get them back, and so there's I
Speaker 2: have very few things scattered, and I liked the idea
Speaker 2: of having such at children, you know, being scattered, you
Speaker 2: just kind of want to bring them home. I always
Speaker 2: said my songs were like my children, and I expect
Speaker 2: them to support me when I'm old, and they are
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 3: Indeed. Did you have any advice for Taylor Swift when
Speaker 3: she was buying back her music or catalog.
Speaker 2: I don't have any advice. I just had admiration for
Speaker 2: her for doing it. I mean that Gal is something
Speaker 2: else I love and respect how she's handled her career,
Speaker 2: her life, and how smart she has been about it.
Speaker 2: So I have nothing but admiration for her in every way.
Speaker 3: And your godmother to Miley Cyrus, how she is as
Speaker 3: as a godchild.
Speaker 1: Well, I love Molly. She's like one of my own.
Speaker 2: She's like a child or a sister or I don't know.
Speaker 2: She's very close. I've known her since before she was born,
Speaker 2: and Billy Ray, her dad, and I were friends all
Speaker 2: through the years, and of course Molly and I are
Speaker 2: very very close to this day. She calls me to
Speaker 2: talk about things and sometimes I call her. She was
Speaker 2: very helped full When I did my rock album, she
Speaker 2: gave me like a little TIBs and you know, tell
Speaker 2: me about clothes and suggested the photographer.
Speaker 1: So we're just good buddies too. But I really love Milly.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody in this world is more talented
Speaker 2: and more beautiful.
Speaker 3: Amazing, And she's wearing fewer clothes every day. Every time
Speaker 3: I see her, she has less clothes on. Did you notice.
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I never know what Miley's going to do next. She
Speaker 2: may be dressed, she may not be. But she's special
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 3: So you and your sister both played the same same character,
Speaker 3: Dora le Rhodes in the movie and television version of
Speaker 3: nine to five. I loved that movie so much. I
Speaker 3: didn't see the TV version. How many how many episodes
Speaker 3: did you do?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: It was a total of about six seasons. They were
Speaker 4: not full seasons, but it was a span of six.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a lot. What made the character and the
Speaker 3: storyline hit such a chord with audiences. It's about the
Speaker 3: working woman, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think that's It was really about the equal pay for
Speaker 2: equal work and the harassment in the workplace.
Speaker 1: Old mister Hart, the main character.
Speaker 2: But the Doorley character was a country girl from Texas
Speaker 2: and rachel and now totally related to the southern girl
Speaker 2: part of sexual harassment and all that. And then when
Speaker 2: we did the musical, Megan Hilty played the Doorley part
Speaker 2: and made that all come to life. So I just
Speaker 2: felt like that that was a character that kind of
Speaker 2: she was kind of abused because she was pretty and
Speaker 2: the male character the male chauviness, and she was just saying, look,
Speaker 2: this character said, I'm not taking that off of you.
Speaker 2: I got my own strength, I am my own person.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of I think what the Doorley character
Speaker 2: was great because she just kind of took trow of
Speaker 2: herself and said, you're not treating me like that because
Speaker 2: I ain't having it. And of course the whole movie
Speaker 2: was about women in the workplace.
Speaker 3: So my friend Bronson van Wick, he is a big
Speaker 3: fan of yours. He said, Dolly climbed the ultimate ladder
Speaker 3: and she didn't pull it up behind her. What do
Speaker 3: you think of that statement? Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 1: Well? I like that statement.
Speaker 2: I love it when people say, you know, fun things
Speaker 2: and a fun way to make a point.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that too. Can we talk about the
Speaker 3: evolution of a fan base? Dolly Partons America says, your
Speaker 3: fan base has flipped from being eighty percent over fifty
Speaker 3: five to being eighty percent under fifty five. What do
Speaker 3: you do to connect with your fans as they grow
Speaker 3: and change. I think that that kind of evolution is
Speaker 3: so interesting to me.
Speaker 2: Well, I have been at this a long time, and
Speaker 2: getting back to my god daughter Molly, I think one
Speaker 2: of the reasons that I resonated to a much younger
Speaker 2: crowd in that particular way was when she was doing
Speaker 2: Hannah Montana and I played her aunt Dolly, and I
Speaker 2: did several episodes on the show. So then people got
Speaker 2: to looking at me. Then in that younger generation, then
Speaker 2: they started to follow my music, and then a lot
Speaker 2: of the people coming up today because they take me
Speaker 2: serious as a songwriter. And I've lived long enough like
Speaker 2: you to have been in the same business to where
Speaker 2: people look to you like you must know what you're
Speaker 2: talking about, and then they admire the way you've handled
Speaker 2: your business and how you go about it. So I
Speaker 2: think the fact that a lot of young women they
Speaker 2: want to know how to be and what to do
Speaker 2: and what not to do and they kind of look
Speaker 2: to me for that, and I've always been touched by
Speaker 2: that and glad that I can be and have been
Speaker 2: an inspiration to the younger women in the business.
Speaker 3: Well, both of you are amazing role models, and I
Speaker 3: think to continue to be a role model the younger
Speaker 3: generations is so terribly important. And you know, I did
Speaker 3: the Justin Bieber roast that changed my demographic following tremendously
Speaker 3: hanging out with the rappers and being a little bit
Speaker 3: naughty doing a roast and then doing a program with
Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg. It really does bring in a whole different
Speaker 3: audience of both students and admirers. So you are the experts, Allie.
Speaker 3: I look up to you for that. I think it's
Speaker 3: just amazing to keep evolving. And I have a little
Speaker 3: model that I always say, when you're through changing, you're through.
Speaker 3: You just keep evolving, and evolution to me is change.
Speaker 3: It's just amazing.
Speaker 2: I hope to continue to do that, and to you
Speaker 2: as well, I think, as we mentioned before, you kind
Speaker 2: of have that that following. You don't let yourself, you know,
Speaker 2: get old, and it's a'm fun to watch you sell dirt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh you saw that did you. Yeah, I love dirt.
Speaker 3: I love dirt. I think I think it's an incredible
Speaker 3: way to grow a garden. You can if you don't
Speaker 3: have the right dirt. You know about that you were
Speaker 3: a farmer. Now we do.
Speaker 2: We just don't want to let you let Snoop Dogg
Speaker 2: smoke any of that much.
Speaker 3: Oh, don't worry. So you made a rock and roll
Speaker 3: album called rock Starter last year that went gold on
Speaker 3: the Billboard charts. Now that is also an incredible achievement.
Speaker 3: What is the thing you most appreciated about your career
Speaker 3: today compared to where you started.
Speaker 2: Well, I just appreciate and am humbled by the fact
Speaker 2: that I have got to do of what I wanted
Speaker 2: to do, and to make a living at what I
Speaker 2: love to do, and that I have seen so many
Speaker 2: of my childhood dreams come true. And it goes back
Speaker 2: to what you mentioned earlier about having the fans, having
Speaker 2: that fan base that follow you through the years, and
Speaker 2: it never gets old to me.
Speaker 1: It's just a way of life with me. I love
Speaker 1: the music.
Speaker 2: I not only love to see things happen, I love
Speaker 2: to make things happen. And so, as you said earlier,
Speaker 2: I hope to continue to do that, because I don't
Speaker 2: think I'd ever want to stop working, because I think
Speaker 2: there's no saying I'd rather wear out than to rust out.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of my philosophy too.
Speaker 3: I'm going to make that the title of one of
Speaker 3: my chapters in my autobiography. That would be great. Did
Speaker 3: you learn anything new about each other when you were
Speaker 3: writing this book?
Speaker 2: Well, I do think we learned anything new, but I
Speaker 2: think we really treasured just our love, our true love,
Speaker 2: and how.
Speaker 1: Much we do love each other.
Speaker 2: And now that we're both getting older and just thinking,
Speaker 2: what a wonderful gift this was that we got to
Speaker 2: do something like this together.
Speaker 3: Now, Rachel, how many kids? How many children do you have?
Speaker 3: Rachel daughter?
Speaker 4: And then my husband has three boys his grandkids ever, yes,
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: In your family, are there one or two kids that
Speaker 3: are following in your footsteps in music?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Bunches of them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, in fact, we have an album coming out called
Speaker 2: Smoking Mountain DNA. And as I mentioned earlier, our parents,
Speaker 2: my partners and Owens Is, they were very musical, especially
Speaker 2: the Owen's side. And now we've got all these little
Speaker 2: young cousins, nieces, nephews that are growing and we're doing
Speaker 2: a whole album called Smoking Mountain, DNA, Family, Faith and Fables,
Speaker 2: and then there's going to be a doctor series for
Speaker 2: our doctor series of our family and the history of
Speaker 2: our music.
Speaker 3: I look forward to seeing that that is going to
Speaker 3: be great. Where is that going to be?
Speaker 1: Well, actually, we haven't sold it yet.
Speaker 2: The album has come out in September, and yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's got about thirty six songs on even some of
Speaker 2: the older people back through the years.
Speaker 3: That'll be amazing, amazing. This has been such a pleasure
Speaker 3: to talk to you. I could go on forever. You
Speaker 3: are both so engaging and so pleasant and so lovely
Speaker 3: to speak to. I wish you the best with this book.
Speaker 3: I look forward to trying as many as I can.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Dolly and Rachel, and be sure to pick
Speaker 3: up Good Looking Cooking with the two most beautiful blonde performers,
Speaker 3: beautiful women you have ever seen on the cover and
Speaker 3: best of luck.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you Mark.
Speaker 3: I hope to see you in person soon. Thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you, you might Bye.