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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody Happy Tuesday or Wednesday or whenever

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Speaker 1: the hell you're listening to this. I'm me. That's John

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Speaker 1: Mittal Coop Free and Out Podcast, Colin Coward pod Cast Network,

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Speaker 1: recording this on a Monday night, August five. I guess

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Speaker 1: I saw the Fox Sports Radio tweeted out. We had huge,

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Speaker 1: huge numbers in terms of listeners. I know this specific

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Speaker 1: show is doing really well. Appreciate everyone listening. The downloads

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Speaker 1: it on Colin's feed obviously, which is the cash cow.

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Speaker 1: If you subscribe to just my normal feed, appreciate that too.

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Speaker 1: It's all the same for me. So I'm glad this

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Speaker 1: show is awesome. I mean it's been I'm lucky enough,

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Speaker 1: hell honored that Colin even asked me to do this

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Speaker 1: last year or whenever. I guess maybe it was two

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Speaker 1: years ago. Now, two falls ago is when he reached out.

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Speaker 1: And it's been, uh, it's been very professionally and creatively,

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Speaker 1: you know, just it's just been an awesome experience. It's

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Speaker 1: cool to interact with you guys. Everything we do through Instagram,

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail Bag, do that on this show too. Today

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Speaker 1: got a lot more questions when we got a lot

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Speaker 1: going on. There's nothing like fall football season. So if

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Speaker 1: we can crush it in a random month in July,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for August, September, October, November, December, and just

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Speaker 1: the fall. I mean it's the best time of a

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Speaker 1: year by a mile for sports because we got football

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Speaker 1: and I can't wait. So today, you know, Tom Brady signed,

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Speaker 1: I guess resigned extended kind of a bizarre contract. Will

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Speaker 1: dive into that. Read some interesting stuff from Peter King.

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Speaker 1: He went down to Tampa Bay with Jamis, with Bruce Arians.

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Speaker 1: Just some of the buzz that's coming out of there.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've had at least here in the Bay area.

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Speaker 1: Antonio came with the messed up feat de Ford got

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Speaker 1: hurt at practice, uh tendonitis. But I think there's a way,

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Speaker 1: a right way, and a wrong way to manage injuries

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Speaker 1: when you get veteran players. We'll obviously dive into the

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail bag and I'll jump a little bit with

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Speaker 1: some stories that I saw around the league. But I

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Speaker 1: want to start with this Tom Brady and Robert Craft.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it might be the most powerful financial

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Speaker 1: going on there just doesn't make sense. And I want

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Speaker 1: to start by laying this out. I believe in following laws,

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Speaker 1: like laws that can make you go to jail, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you want to make money, do something legal, like

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Speaker 1: if you sell cocaine to make a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: you deserve to go to jail. Right if you commit murder,

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Speaker 1: like you're breaking loss. If you commit white collar crime,

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Speaker 1: you're a criminal. But if you push the envelope on

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Speaker 1: things that maybe in your business are arbitrary rules for

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Speaker 1: a given industry, it doesn't bother me as much. Like

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of in the internet business. I run another podcast.

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Speaker 1: I do an Internet show every day on Periscope. There

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Speaker 1: aren't really any rules. I can kind of do whatever

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Speaker 1: I want. One day it'll be regulated and there will

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Speaker 1: be rules. Right now, if I want to rip video

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Speaker 1: off Twitter and post it on my Instagram, I can't,

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Speaker 1: and I do it. It's the wild Wild West how

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Speaker 1: bar Stool created kind of an empire by doing that.

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Speaker 1: You can take advantage being kind of an early entry

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Speaker 1: around twenty years, but in two hundred years will be like, damn,

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Speaker 1: the internet was crazy back in the day. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: wild wild West right now, So are there rules like

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Speaker 1: Robert Kraft if he got a hand job at Orchids

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Speaker 1: of Asia like that and he paid for it, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's breaking law there. Now we can go down a

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Speaker 1: whole another discussion should prostitution be legal or illegal? But

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Speaker 1: that's there's a difference between right and wrong. Now there's

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Speaker 1: also just like that, there's an arbitrary law down the

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Speaker 1: but a four hour drive you can go to Dennis

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Speaker 1: Hopps Bunny Ranch in this league. So it's prostitution a

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Speaker 1: little bit of an arbitrary law, sure, but in certain

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Speaker 1: states it's a black and white law. If you pay,

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Speaker 1: you know, a prostitute, you're going to jail or you're

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Speaker 1: But my ultimate point is they've been paying Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: I think we all acknowledge something shady is going on.

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Speaker 1: And if it ever comes out that he was siphoning

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Speaker 1: It would not bother me at all, not one bit.

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Speaker 1: No different than like when a college kid takes a

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Speaker 1: circumventing the salary capit rules? Sure, but in his mind

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Speaker 1: like rules are meant to be broken, especially if I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to jail for it, would gonna do take

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Speaker 1: all and you could have probably only pulled this off

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Speaker 1: It's probably just an owner player of thing that they

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Speaker 1: but it's never added up how they did business. And again,

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Speaker 1: do a do the same thing. The Patriots have benefited

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Speaker 1: make any sense in a sport where every guy is

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Speaker 1: trying to get the most amount of money, and I

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Speaker 1: often hear, well his wife's worth all this? Well, yeah this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. Peyton Manning comes for money. Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson's wife has a little cash. I mean, who cares.

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Speaker 1: That's it has nothing to do with Giselle having money.

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Speaker 1: It is simply more than likely something shady's going on.

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Speaker 1: And you know what I say, welcome to capitalism. A

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Speaker 1: lot of shady ship happens. Now. Are you breaking a law,

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Speaker 1: like an actual law written by the government. Are you

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Speaker 1: I don't get as bothered because I think league rules,

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Speaker 1: just like I know a lot of owners, GMS coaches

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Speaker 1: they're kind of arbitrary. I think they're kind of random.

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Speaker 1: when you look, I saw this great tweet and it

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Speaker 1: it up right now it was Brady, Rogers, Wilson, Breese. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here it is. Let's group Brady with the eight other

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Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. Obviously, Flaccos on a different team. The

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Speaker 1: last in cash earnings among those nine players since two

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Speaker 1: thousand eleven. Explain that one to me. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the greatest quarterback ever is making less money

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Speaker 1: Brady is just truly one of the great humans. If

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Speaker 1: they did this blowboard and it's a little shady, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the real world. What welcome to a capitalistic society?

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Speaker 1: This stuff is always happening and always will. And I'd argue, well,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't Paul Allen and Seattle maybe tried to work out

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Speaker 1: some Ford stocks on the low. I mean, in all seriousness,

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Speaker 1: if they were able to pull this off, it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: I grew up on any to Bartelow. He brown bagged

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Speaker 1: and obviously he got more trouble again with the law

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Speaker 1: and was kicked out of the league. But you're not

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Speaker 1: break quote unquote league rules as much. To be honest

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Speaker 1: one of the more bizarre contracts we've ever seen, because

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Speaker 1: at first over the weekend it was like it's a

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Speaker 1: tweeted out something earlier today, which I'm still kind of

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Speaker 1: sign a deal rap sheet, said sources. Patriots quarterback Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's new deal includes a provision that does not allow

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Speaker 1: New England a franchise or transition tag him in two

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Speaker 1: thousand twenty. The final two years automatically void on the

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Speaker 1: last day of the two thousand nineteen league year, but

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Speaker 1: he can not be tagged. Brady will be a free agent.

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Speaker 1: How does that even make sense? So he just signed

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Speaker 1: a fake deal? What Brady craft? And maybe Belichick's involved,

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Speaker 1: of the greatest mysteries. Uh, they're clearly I got some

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. Something weird is going on, but they've figured

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Speaker 1: that it's not even weird that a forty two year

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Speaker 1: I was at multiple games. Peyton Manning's Live Peyton Manning's

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Speaker 1: picked off Peyton Manning. Well in that game, Charles picked

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Speaker 1: Woodson was flying like if you've ever seen the movie

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Speaker 1: show of himself. Now history would tell us father time

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Speaker 1: that that normally happens when Peyton fell off a Cliff

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Speaker 1: like a Troy Aikman, like a Steve Young, or you

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Speaker 1: just fall off a cliff playwise Brett Farve, Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 1: and it's clearest over. I don't know which one's gonna

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Speaker 1: I would say it would be more likely that he

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Speaker 1: has a catastrophic injury because unlike Peyton, he still has

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Speaker 1: a you know, well enough arm strength, So it's hard

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Speaker 1: and b A. The staff that he's bringing, Todd Bowles

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Speaker 1: and all the other defensive guys and some of his

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Speaker 1: offensive coaches, they were with him in Arizona. So it's

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Speaker 1: the same staff, the same group thought that kicked ass

428
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Speaker 1: seven years ago or whenever he was first got to Arizona,

429
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Speaker 1: I think two thousand thirteen. Now on Tampa, which I

430
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Speaker 1: promise you this, they inherited a lot more talent Tampa.

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Speaker 1: Then he's inheriting that he inherited in Arizona. So I

432
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Speaker 1: guess I'm just leaving it with keep an eye on

433
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Speaker 1: this while I'm out on Jamis. I officially said that

434
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Speaker 1: when he got to spend it for the Uber driver,

435
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Speaker 1: I'm not out on the fact that be A might

436
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Speaker 1: be able to resurrect his career. Now that will mean

437
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him. Uh, you know, I hope anyone matures.

438
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: We don't all mature at the same time. Jamis, I

439
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: don't know how many second chances you get, but don't

440
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Speaker 1: be surprised if you see James put up some numbers

441
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Speaker 1: this year. Okay, I want to dive into something that's

442
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Speaker 1: that bothers me in the NFL, and I think sometimes

443
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Speaker 1: with football coaches there is a disconnect of how important

444
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Speaker 1: the players are financially like they are high, high priced

445
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Speaker 1: at assets. And most of the older coaches get this,

446
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: think about this, like Belichick, Pete Carroll, Andy Reid, all

447
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Speaker 1: the guys that are sixty plus have been in the

448
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Speaker 1: league since you ran double days for weeks on end. Hell,

449
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Speaker 1: I'm thirty five. When I was in high school football,

450
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: we had two straight weeks of double days. A double

451
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Speaker 1: day is not allowed in the NFL. Training camps are

452
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Speaker 1: pretty easy, but I think a lot of times younger

453
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Speaker 1: coaches because the nature of the sport is you practice

454
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Speaker 1: way more than you play. And if you've ever met

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Speaker 1: a football coach really at any level, they really value practice.

456
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Speaker 1: Practice means a lot to football coaches because it matters

457
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Speaker 1: because it's not like baseball where it's like you'll get

458
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Speaker 1: them tomorrow, just be in the lineup, where basketball we

459
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Speaker 1: play another game tomorrow. You you only play once a week.

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Speaker 1: You only play once a week, And unlike especially basketball,

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Speaker 1: the offseason, unless you have the entire team together, it's

462
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Speaker 1: hard to practice. Like football, you can't just randomly practice

463
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Speaker 1: it takes organization. It's just a complicated sport. So coaches

464
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Speaker 1: put a huge value on practice, which I completely understand,

465
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Speaker 1: especially offensively. It takes a lot of reps, timing, and chemistry.

466
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Speaker 1: But and I was around Andy and he's been really

467
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Speaker 1: good at this. I mean crushing in Kansas City Tom Balley,

468
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Speaker 1: I remember reading a couple of years ago he credited

469
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Speaker 1: him with saving his career. Did not make him practice.

470
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Speaker 1: And when I first got to the media, I used

471
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Speaker 1: to go to Niners practice with those hardball teams. Justin

472
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Speaker 1: Smith did not practice that much. I completely understand in

473
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Speaker 1: the NFL trying to make young players, even high draft

474
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Speaker 1: picks like Nick Bosa, for example, who has an injury history,

475
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Speaker 1: making him practice, making him earn his toughness, get his

476
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Speaker 1: reps like he's got. He hasn't done anything in the league.

477
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Speaker 1: He's been paid thirty million dollars signing bonus or whatever

478
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Speaker 1: the hell he got without doing a goddamn thick. We

479
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Speaker 1: hope he's gonna be good. He's dominated practice. I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be Actually might be wrong. He might be

481
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Speaker 1: an elite player. We'll see. He's been kicking mcglinchey's and

482
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: Joe Stalely's but every day, but like he's got to

483
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Speaker 1: prove some stuff. D Ford, who the forty Niners traded for,

484
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Speaker 1: and I think it's symbolic to a out of players

485
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Speaker 1: around the NFL, is going into a six year He

486
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Speaker 1: spent five years. You know, he's drafting the first round

487
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Speaker 1: four years and then his fifth year option double digit

488
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: sacks multiple times, was a Pro bowler last year. I

489
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Speaker 1: understand why he's gonna want to practice and while the

490
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Speaker 1: coaches are gonna want to make him practice. But if

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Speaker 1: you're the forty Niners, you give up a second round

492
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Speaker 1: pick for him, he has a long injury history of

493
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: soft tissue issues, of back issues. You have to be

494
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Speaker 1: very careful with him. There is zero reason to make

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Speaker 1: him prove anything in practice. When you traded a second

496
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Speaker 1: round pick for him and gave him thirty five million

497
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Speaker 1: dollars and guaranteed money, you're you're showing him you know

498
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Speaker 1: what he is like. He's proven to you what he's worth.

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Speaker 1: The reason you're giving up the draft pick and paying

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Speaker 1: him the cash. I don't need to see anything at practice,

501
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Speaker 1: and the forty Niners when I was at ot As,

502
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Speaker 1: I'm like God, they're making him do a lot and

503
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Speaker 1: then the pads come on. He's practical. I wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: practice that much. And it's not like some position, especially

505
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Speaker 1: on offense he plays. He's a designated pastor. Sure now

506
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: technically is the starting pass restaurant in the wide nine.

507
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Speaker 1: He's got one gap, the ball snappy, chased the quarterback.

508
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: I have to have him for Sundays. And it's not

509
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Speaker 1: just Kyle Shanahan, it's just younger coaches just in general.

510
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Speaker 1: And it's just a coach thing. Sometimes you get so

511
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Speaker 1: shortsighted you don't realize no one's ever won a Super

512
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Speaker 1: Bowl in early August, so we're all the players all

513
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Speaker 1: over the league. Like Joe Staley. The third practice of

514
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Speaker 1: the forty nine training camp, he got off. I was

515
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Speaker 1: texting with the buddy in Chicago today. He's like, Yeah,

516
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Speaker 1: Kalil gets a vet day like once a week. He

517
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Speaker 1: gets a VET day once a week. Plus he gets

518
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Speaker 1: a day off once a week because the entire team does.

519
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Speaker 1: So he doesn't practice that much, and when he practices,

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Speaker 1: he practice is hard. But the the only thing that

521
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Speaker 1: matters with Khalil Mack is on Sundays, he's ready to roll.

522
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Speaker 1: He doesn't need to learn the defense. He doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to prove anything in practice. And I'm not saying D

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Speaker 1: for Kalil back because he promise you he's not. But

525
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Speaker 1: he is in the sense that I can't. He gets

526
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Speaker 1: injured a lot. I can't lose him in practice. I'm

527
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Speaker 1: gonna lose him. I have to lose him in the game.

528
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Speaker 1: Why I tipped my hat to Sean McVeigh in the rams.

529
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Speaker 1: You know what he's done with training camp, punted on

530
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Speaker 1: the whole damn thing. Text one the buddy today in

531
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Speaker 1: the league, kind of picking his brain because part of

532
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: training camp you're following all these teams. He's like, yeah,

533
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: I make a Twitter list for all the teams that

534
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: I have to kind of keep track of. I'm like, oh,

535
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: it's kind of pretty smart. You follow the beat reporters.

536
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: It's much easier to keep kind of information. But there's

537
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Speaker 1: never been But I was like, yeah, you know, one

538
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Speaker 1: thing I've noticed, just casually is have the game's ever

539
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: been worse like when I first got to the league.

540
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: Some some preseason games were not that terrible. You have

541
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Speaker 1: vetteran guys play. No one really plays anymore, nobody. I

542
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: think the preseason is just completely unwatchable. It's poop. It's awful.

543
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: It's nuts that seven million people watch the Hall of

544
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: Fame game. That's the worst football game I've ever seen

545
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: in my life. Now, the broadcast was excellent, al in

546
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: rare form, not even paying attention to what's going on

547
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: in the field, just talking to Dick Ebersol and Lay.

548
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: It was fantastic, But the the actual game could have

549
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: been worse. Like, why would you play anyone in the preseason.

550
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. There is no risk. But

551
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: to me, even the bigger thing is when you have

552
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: veteran players that have battled battled injuries and have proven

553
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: their worth, either you've given them money or you've traded

554
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: for them to acquire. You have to be very, very careful.

555
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: And it's it's on the front office to work with

556
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: the coaching staff because once you're on the field, you

557
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: kind of get tunnel vision. You want to see the

558
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: guy work. And I'm just as guilty. I'm at practice,

559
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: like I want to see more DeFord he should be

560
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: on the sideline, and all these players around the league

561
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: that have battled with injuries that are older, like I understand,

562
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: I saw DK metcalfs hurt, like, yeah, you got DK

563
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: Metcals gotta practice rookies, young players have to practice. But

564
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: when you get six seventh eighth year guys that you're

565
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: paying a lot of money to, I'm sorry. I don't

566
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: put much emphasis. And I know most people in the

567
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: front offices in practices and August, I actually think they

568
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: get over analyzed sometimes, and we consistently see guys that

569
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Speaker 1: dominating practice get to the games and aren't the same

570
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Speaker 1: with young players out alone veterans. My only concern with

571
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: a seventh eighth year guy that's in the peak of

572
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: his powers is that how am I gonna keep him healthy?

573
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: I know he knows the scheme. I know that he's competitive.

574
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Speaker 1: I've seen him play for however many games I have

575
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Speaker 1: in the rolodex of being able to look at all

576
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: every game he's ever played. If your seventh year guy,

577
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: do the math sixteen times six, even if you've missed

578
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: some games like d Ford, we have a long, long

579
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Speaker 1: resume of d Ford playing in NFL games, So I

580
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: I just it. It pisces me off when when coaches

581
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: press older guys too much. No other business would you

582
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: take such an asset and push them two levels once

583
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: they've already proved something into an area that's meaningless. Now

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00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm all for the games pushing through it. Playing an

585
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: injured guy, I get it. You know you're you're paid

586
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: to play on Sundays, and Sundays matter. And I'm also

587
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: not saying practice doesn't matter. It clearly does in the

588
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: sport of football. But certain positions with certain players are

589
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: relatively basic, like the wide nine defensive end, like I'm

590
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: d Ford probably has it in one week. You know,

591
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: I don't need I just need to see him healthy.

592
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: And I think this goes for a lot of older

593
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 1: players around the league that I think sometimes coaches get

594
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: in their own way and then they get piste off

595
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: when the guy can't practice. Can we talk a little

596
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: bit about holdouts and I I talked about it a

597
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: while back, that not all holdouts are equal, and what's

598
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: on the most basic level. The premise of a holdout

599
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: right is to create some leverage. Like in any human

600
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Speaker 1: in any business, they try to create a little leverage

601
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: because if you have leverage, if you let the market, economy,

602
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: whoever is your employer, I think that you can go

603
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: somewhere else and get more money, they'll pay you money. Well,

604
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: in football, it's a little more complicated because often you're

605
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: under contract, so they kind of got you by the balls.

606
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: You can't just go out and get another offer. You

607
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: You just hold out the hope that they miss you

608
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Speaker 1: and they give you a pay bob. Sometimes it works,

609
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. To me, if you're gonna hold out,

610
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: If you're going to hold out, It's why I always

611
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 1: say the most powerful words. And I just I've been

612
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: in business for a short period time, been around in

613
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: my whole life. My dad and just have family, friends

614
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: in business and every person that's successful on any level.

615
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: And I found this out and I think it works

616
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: a little bit personally too with relationships, but definitely professionally.

617
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm not into playing games, but just professionally for sure,

618
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: say no, hey, we'll hire you for X. No, even

619
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Speaker 1: if you you know, sometimes you gotta bluff. Now, I

620
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: can be nerve racking, like calling someone's bluff is tough.

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Speaker 1: Holdout is difficult because a lot of these guys want

622
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: to play. But if you are going to hold out,

623
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: like I can never quite say his name, Yannick in

624
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: doc Way, the really good pass rusher for the Jacks,

625
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: you know, a top six or seven edge rusher in

626
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: the league. There there's a short list of guys I

627
00:31:54,080 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: don't know, uh Vaughan, Khalil, God Clark. I mean it's

628
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: a it's a short list. You know, maybe Clowney obviously.

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Speaker 1: What's kind of unique that are better than this guy?

630
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Speaker 1: He is? He has crushed at the last couple of

631
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: years basically average double digits acts. As he came in

632
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: the league. He was a third round pick, so he

633
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: hasn't made that much money. He's got a career basically

634
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: thirty sacks in his career. Once you're holding out, reports

635
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: are that he's he showed back up. I mean he's

636
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Speaker 1: back and he basically said, I don't really want to

637
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: talk about it. And I started to think it's August

638
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: five or August five. I said, August five. You know

639
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: what I meant, August five? What was the point of

640
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: the holdout? Part of your holdout should have been going

641
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack because you do have some leverage. They drafted you.

642
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: You're clearly one of their best players. You're arguably their

643
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: second best young player behind Jalen. Don't show up, Like,

644
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: what what is the point if you're gonna hold out now,

645
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend to hold out, though I know where

646
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: this guy is coming from, because unlike Jalen Ramsey, who,

647
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: as I've talked about before, has already got the back.

648
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: He was a top five player and he's gonna get

649
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: another bag. He's already been paid a lot of money.

650
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: So why I never lose sleep over Like I'm not

651
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: losing sleep over clown He's hold out, clown He's already

652
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: made a lot of money. But if you're clowning, do

653
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: not show him back up. There was a report today

654
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: I saw on p FT that Clowny is gonna show

655
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: up after the third preseason game. For who? For what

656
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: part of you're trying to get paid? Do not show

657
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: up at minimum deil week one. You have to put

658
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: them in a position where they're like, God, this guy

659
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: really might miss some games, even if you're not planning

660
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: on it. But if you get that close, you might

661
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: freak them out. I thought, I give Cam Chancellor credit.

662
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: Remember a couple of years ago he held out. It

663
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: might have been four or five. Now it was like,

664
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, he'll be back by the third preseason game,

665
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: because that's what teams assume he'll be back, like in

666
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: doc Way, Yeah he'll come back, and he did come back.

667
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: So what was the point of your hold out in

668
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: a couple of days just at home chilling with a

669
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: girlfriend like you lost? They won? When you go cam Chancellor, Yeah,

670
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm calling your bluff, Seattle. You think I'm gonna show

671
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: up week one? Screw you. Then he held out week

672
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: one week two and he got some money. Hell, if

673
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't uh him dock Way, I can't really I

674
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: struggle to say his name. I might hold out week one.

675
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: You have to create some leverage. This is a business.

676
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: Be cold hearted. If I'm clowney, I ain't showing back up.

677
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: Screw you, Trade me or pay me like you do

678
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: have some leverage. If you clowning, you are you know, flawed,

679
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: but still a top five or six edge player when

680
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: you're factor in how good he is against the run.

681
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: That's the tough part about Melvin Gordon. He doesn't have

682
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: much leverage like Melvin's why I recommend they're offering you

683
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: a contract, come signing, they want you, They're offering you

684
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: a pay bump. If I'm Zeke Now I've been critical

685
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: of the Zeke hold out because I think it's a

686
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: low level, slappy move when you've been in a lot

687
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: of trouble and your owner is stood by you. He's

688
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: already paid you a lot of money because he drafted

689
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: you four Overall, you should show up because he wants

690
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: to pay you, but he just wants you to prove

691
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: that you're a good guy. He wants to trust that

692
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: when he pays you a lot of money, he can

693
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: sleep at night and you're not gonna get in trouble

694
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: doing some stupid thing that you've proven over and over

695
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: that you struggle to avoid. But when you're Clowney and

696
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: you're in dock Way and it's strictly over money, part

697
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: of down be a little harder for Clowney because the

698
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: Texas defensive line is good, but you lost Malik Jackson,

699
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: Calais Campbell's a little older, you're their best pass rusher.

700
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: I would not have shown up. Who who's giving these

701
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: guys advice? Like if you? Because to me, if I'm

702
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: the agent and I'm if I'm the Dockways agent and

703
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna hold out for training camp, I say, listen,

704
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: we're either showing up day one and try to negotiate

705
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: and operate in good faith. You're one of the best

706
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: young players. I don't know much about him. I'm just

707
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: gonna let's just I'm gonna assume he's a good character guy.

708
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: They draft you, they like you, they want to build

709
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: around you. We're gonna do that. But if we're not

710
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna operate in quote unquote good faith and we're gonna

711
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: hold out, you have to be willing to do this

712
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: for the long haul. You can't get emotional. You can't

713
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: read their players tweeting nature the fans tweet nat you,

714
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: we're digging in our heels. This is business, this is

715
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: not You can't be emotional when it comes to dollars

716
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: and cents because they won't be with you. You shouldn't

717
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: be with them. But when you crack and you go

718
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: back before the first preseason game, what the hell was

719
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: the point of it all? I do not get it.

720
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: If I'm Zeke Elliott again, I would never have held out.

721
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: But once I hold out, I'm not showing back up

722
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: til I get a new contract. Otherwise, the holdout was

723
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: completely pointless. It made zero sense none, just to get

724
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: some time off. Again, these practices are really easy, like

725
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: they're not very difficult. There's not much hitting, especially if

726
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: you're one of these guys. If you don't want to

727
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: play in the preseason, they won't make you play in

728
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: the preseason. It's just it boggles my mind that these

729
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: guys going these hold out situations and there's really not

730
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: a plan of attack. It's why I'm critical sometimes of agents,

731
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: and I get Richard Sherman's back when he goes, I'm

732
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: cutting the agent out. Why I'm cutting the middleman out?

733
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: Why am I giving a guy two percent when I

734
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: could do this on my own. I can pay a

735
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: pay a lawyer a flat fee for a quarter of

736
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: the price and negotiate my contract. It's not that difficult.

737
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: And there's too many middle men in these guys lives,

738
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: too many people telling these guys in their ear poor advice,

739
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: because I just I do not get it. My recommendation

740
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: would be to Clowney, do not show up by right

741
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: once you're in on the hold out. Now the reason,

742
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: like I said, Levian Bell was making a poor mistake.

743
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: It's like Levian, you're a running back and they're offering

744
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: you fourteen and a half million for Clowney. I do

745
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: get If Clowney was on the open market. He wouldn't

746
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: get Khalil money, but you get seventy million dollars and

747
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: guaranteed cash. So the difference between whatever you get this year,

748
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: fifteen or whatever to seventy that is a big gap.

749
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: That's why I supported Khalil Mack who dug in his heels.

750
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald did the same thing. Like to me, Clowney

751
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: and Dockway have some of that leverage. Either pay me

752
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: or trade me. I'm not playing for you. You have

753
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: to you have to be cold hearted in business. You can't.

754
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: You gotta be almost cutthroat. You can't get emotional with this,

755
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: even though it's a team game. So I I just

756
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: hope some of these guys in the future have a

757
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: plan of attack when they go into these holdouts, because

758
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: there's no point in a and a holdout for a week,

759
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: literally zero point. Okay, let's dive into the Middlecoff mail

760
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: bag at John Middlecoff, my Instagram handles where I interact

761
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: with the people. I'm gonna get to a bunch of

762
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: new questions here, and you guys can always slide up

763
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: in my d m s. Ask me a question and

764
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: I'll answer it right here. Three and out question, is

765
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: it preferable to have a mix of strong bull rush

766
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack on one end and contrasting speed rush Von

767
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: Miller on the other? Good question, Yes, I would like

768
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: Khalil on one end and von on another. Can you

769
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: rank one through four for lead color analysts Romo Collinsworth, Aikman,

770
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: Nick Farland and give a few seconds why I can't

771
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: wait for that one? Okay, let's go one. I don't

772
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: necessarily know if you need contrasting styles. Like I'm being

773
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: tongue in cheek. I mean, of course any team would

774
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: take Von Miller and Kalil Mack on both hands. But

775
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: I think you can have two bowl rushers, two speed rushers.

776
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Do you just want good rushers? I I don't think

777
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: teams necessarily look like I got Dford on one side,

778
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: I need to get a power rusher on the other side,

779
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: or you know, I got Khalil Mack, I need this

780
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: on the other side. If you get clear Mac, you

781
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: just take Cleil back. If you can get Clowney, you

782
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: just take Clowney. You know. It's just they're just hard

783
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: to come by, so you can't really be choosing now

784
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: specific scene schemes with later round picks. You know, speed

785
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: rushers that aren't great. You know, bull rushers that are

786
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: strong are better in certain schemes, like the speed rusher guy.

787
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean, Vaughan's very very unique, but you can't just

788
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: have a strictly speed rusher. Probably and like a three

789
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: or four defense, he has to be able to hold

790
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: up against the run. I think a couple of years ago,

791
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: which I thought was one of the best front sevens

792
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. The front consisted of Justin Smith, Ian

793
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: Williams at nose tackle, Ray McDonald who turned out to

794
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: be a terrible human being very underrated player, Alden's Smith,

795
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: Patrick Willis Navarro Bowman, and a mod Brooks. A Maud

796
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: was a true power rusher, and Alden was probably more

797
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: of a speed rusher, but he was just an overall rusher.

798
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't think teams necessarily take that into account when

799
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: they draft a pass rusher. If the pass rusher is

800
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: really talented, especially in the first round, you know, like

801
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to go wrong with uh boom doc Way,

802
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: I didn't. I forgot that they have Josh Allen to

803
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: now go with him doc Way. Maybe my theory of

804
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: him holding out maybe they're not gonna pay him, They're

805
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: just gonna keep Josh Allen. I don't know why you

806
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't want them both, but you look at the Bears,

807
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: they got Floyd and Mac and Akiem Hicks. You just

808
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: want as many pass rushers as you can get. Made

809
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: me think, though, maybe maybe I'm not deep enough in

810
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: the way I look at it. Maybe teams do look

811
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: at it that way shows you maybe I'm out of touch.

812
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: Maybe you're the smart one? Is it? Zay Smooth two?

813
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: Can you rank one through four? Lead color analysts? Romo Collinsworth,

814
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: Acman McFarlane, mcfarr land is clearly last. Though. I don't

815
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: mind Booger as a person, and just when he was

816
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: on the SEC Network thought he was good. I don't

817
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: think he knows the NFL that well. He just I

818
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: just felt like he just didn't really know the NFL. Now,

819
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: maybe it was just Jason Winton who turned out. I

820
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: think I listened to him out of a podcast with

821
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: Ryan Rossillo, who's now going over to Bill Simmons, the Ringer.

822
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: I guess he's leaving ESPN. Hard to blame him, Uh,

823
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: that you go, guy? Jason Went is pretty smart, pretty impressive, guy,

824
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: but he was just terrible as an analyst. Now, McFarland,

825
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: I just put him dead as last. I'm not the

826
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: biggest collins Worth guy. I think Al Caries that broadcast,

827
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: who I'd say is the greatest play by play guy

828
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: in the history of America. Al Michaels, I like Michelle

829
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: to for I don't really like Collinsworth that much. I

830
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: don't really know why. I don't have a great reason.

831
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I think he's kind of shoved PF

832
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: in all of our faces. And uh, though I don't

833
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: have a problem with PF, but I'd put collins Worth third.

834
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for Aman. I've just I've just always

835
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: like Troy. I think there's just less fluff with him.

836
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: Him and Buck to me are the best tandem. Like

837
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: they're they just work the best. Those two big game

838
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: you give me, Cowboys, Eagles, you give me you know,

839
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: Niner Seattle. I want those two guys on Fox. I

840
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: think they're the best tandem. Though, I'd put Aikman behind Romo.

841
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for Tony Romo. I just I love

842
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: Tony Romo as a player, I love him even more

843
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: as a broadcaster. I love him as a golfer. I

844
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Speaker 1: wish Tony Romo was like my friend. I really do.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to play golf with Tony. I'd want

846
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: to drink beers and eat food with Tony. I'd want

847
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: to just talk football with Tony. Uh any any? Jerry

848
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: Jones love Tony. I love Tony now Nance. I'm a

849
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Speaker 1: big golf guy. If you follow me on Twitter Instagram,

850
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: you probably know that tweet a lot about it. I

851
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: love the PGA Tour. I mean I follow the PGA

852
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: Tour like I do the NFL. I love the PGA Tour.

853
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: Jim Nance, to me is a little cheese ball. You know,

854
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: he's a little much. I respect he's got a stick

855
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: and it might not even be a stick. It's just

856
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: his deal. Give Romo credit. He's really loosened Nance up,

857
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: and that broadcast has become pretty good. So I'd go Romo, Aikman,

858
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: Collinsworth and Booker is a distant last. Now i'd say that,

859
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: I'd say Romo is the best, but Buck and Aikman

860
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 1: are the best tandem, and probably Al is the best individual.

861
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: And the Monday Night Football just a disaster. If Dac

862
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 1: becomes a free agent, what team would give him thirty

863
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: million a year Between teams with quarterbacks, the incoming draft

864
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Speaker 1: where you get a rookie contract was which has Sorry

865
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: I misread that class, Oh incoming rookie class where you

866
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: can get one on a rookie contract, which has proven

867
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: to be a super Bowl winning formula. What team would

868
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: want him? From Tua to Herbert to all these guys,

869
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in a year? Why would any team give

870
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: out that much cap space for Dak? They wouldn't. I mean,

871
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: they just wouldn't. I think I said it on this

872
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 1: podcast last week. Maybe I said it on my other podcast,

873
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: Hay from the Middle coff I just talked. We talk

874
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: a lot about quarterback contracts. If I'm Jerry Jones, can

875
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: I look back in the eye and go listen. I

876
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: can franchise you next year. You can make really nothing

877
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: this year, or we can just do a do a

878
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: deal that suits us both. I'll give you four years,

879
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: eight five million dollars, so it's an average of twenty

880
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: one million dollars per year. But I'm gonna guarantee you

881
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: every penny, every stinking penny, and that million dollars that

882
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: I save relative to like what went signed for. I

883
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: will sign Zeke and a Marii and our offense will

884
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: be awesome to go allown along with our loaded defense,

885
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: and we will win. What now, Dak I get he

886
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: wants to make thirty million dollars a year, But like

887
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: you said, who's paying thirty billion dollars a year? How

888
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: many teams in the NFL need quarterbacks? Saw a story

889
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: that Josh Rosan lit it up in a scrimmage. What

890
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: if he works out in Miami like the Dolphins? Why

891
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: what are the Dolphins want Dak Prescott or not the Dolphins?

892
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean the Bengals, they're the only team that's really

893
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: missing one. Even teams like the Giants that hate their starter,

894
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: they have a backup. All these teams. When you look

895
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: at the amount of quarterbacks drafted in the first couple

896
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: of rounds the last three or four years, it's a lot.

897
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: It's like twelve fifteen players. I mean, I've gone over

898
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: it several times here. It's a lot of guys. Even

899
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: if you go back to like Jimmy car that year

900
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: and then to all the way forward. Just last year alone,

901
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: there are five guys in the first round the previous year.

902
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: I think it was three, previous year was three. That's five,

903
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: that's eight. That's you're you're talking eleven quarterbacks on rookie

904
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: contracts in the last however many years. And then the

905
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: previous year was golf and wents. So you're up to

906
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: fifteen basically quarterbacks and throwing doc in the last fifteen

907
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: drafts or I mean the last four drafts. Fifteen quarterbacks.

908
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: That's basically half the league. And then you have the

909
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: group of the Russell Wilson's, Cam Newton's, Andrew lucks, Uh,

910
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, the older guys that are under contract.

911
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with you podcast question, and then I

912
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: don't see a question. Maybe it disappeared. Cowboy fan here

913
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: many claimed the Cowboys offense runs through Zeke. I say

914
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: the offense runs through the old line. DeMarco Murray and

915
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden had good years behind this line. Zeke is great,

916
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: no doubt, But I think the Cowboys would be okay

917
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: even if he doesn't play. What do you think? I

918
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm biased. I I Zeke's hold out drives

919
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: me nuts, but I will never dispute how good he is.

920
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: He is a Mack truck. He's like the modern day

921
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: version of I mean, it's a little different of Adrian

922
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: Peterson in terms he will run you over. He is

923
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: so powerful as between the tackles runner. He's such a

924
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: good outside and runner. He's a natural pass catcher, and

925
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: he's a he's a hammer as a blocker. It's crazy

926
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: to say because Adrian Peterson is a Hall of Famer

927
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: and we don't know about that Zeke yet. But Zeke's

928
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: more complete. So I don't even like that comparison. He's

929
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: like trying to think of a comp he'd be like

930
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: a stronger version. Now. I'm not saying he's gonna be

931
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: as good as this player, but he's like he's like

932
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: the tank version of LT because he can do it all.

933
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: I think he's that good. I hold Zeke on that

934
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: type of reverse. I think he's a future Hall of

935
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: Famer if he can stay healthy. Now he's a slappy

936
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: off the field. He's got to get his life together.

937
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: But I would agree their offensive line has been an

938
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: area that they've kind of hung your hat on, you know,

939
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: this last four or five years. But Zack Martin now

940
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: bulging just like offensive lineman. You don't keep your five

941
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: guys together for usually longer than two or three years,

942
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: because guys get hurt, guy's age, guys leaving free agency.

943
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: Zeke to me is more important the offensive line. I

944
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 1: hear you, and I think you have a valid point

945
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: because Darren McFadden stinks, but Zeke Zeke would crush it

946
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: beside behind me, you and three other guys blocking. If

947
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: the Packers have another under underachieving season, could you see

948
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: Rogers demanding a trade? Also, would you rather get him

949
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: at the end of next year, assuming he healthy, or

950
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: Peyton when he became a free agent. That's a hell

951
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: of a question. Ah Uh. Knowing what we know now,

952
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: Like at the time Peyton was coming out the next surgery,

953
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: no one knew if he could play. Peyton had an

954
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: unreal four years. I mean he led the best offense

955
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: in the league. I think two of the four of them.

956
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: He was a starting quarterback on two Super Bowl teams.

957
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: Now they got blown out in the one. But the

958
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: chances that Rogers would leave and go to another team,

959
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: a random team because at the time, like the Broncos

960
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: were a little random, and then have success. To me,

961
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: I I'd say, knowing what I know now, I would

962
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: take that paid Manning four year run. Now, the fourth

963
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: year was pretty crappy. Luckily their defense was so good.

964
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: But those first three years, and I witnessed a couple

965
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: of live games of the Raiders won with it one

966
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: against the Niners, that that offense was unstoppable. Peyton Manning

967
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: was like I don't even know, like Picasso in his

968
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: prime painting. It was just unfair air, you know it,

969
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: just how in control he was, like the sheriff in

970
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,479
Speaker 1: his old age, on a mission. You know, ray Lewis

971
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: remember if you guys have ever seen the clip when

972
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: he when he talks to the Stanford basketball team getting

973
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: ready for the n I t Johnny Dockins the coach,

974
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: like I don't know, six seven years ago, and his

975
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: main message was you gotta be piste off for greatness.

976
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: I think Peyton Manning was on a on a bleeping

977
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: mission to be piste off for greatness and everyone in

978
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 1: his way he was trying to destroy. Now, does Rogers

979
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: still quite have that edge, I don't know, because that

980
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: those first three years of Peyton was just that was

981
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: a badass Hall of Famer on a mission, and you

982
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: know he was bad. The last year he was just shot,

983
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, Peyton Manning deserved to end his

984
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: career with multiple Super Bowls. He was too good of

985
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: a player. I'd argue Aaron Rodgers does too. But you

986
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: know their team on paper is pretty good this year,

987
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: and now is our coach good enough? That's not his fault.

988
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: They hired Matt la Flour. So I hear what you're saying.

989
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm currently a student at cal Poly. Hell. Yeah, go Mustangs.

990
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: I know good about a people who study sports management

991
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: at Polly, and I was wondering if you ever want

992
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: to come speak at Polly about your sports career world.

993
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: I personally don't study that major. I studied data and

994
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: computer science, but I would love to listen to you speak. God,

995
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: this is padding my ego here. Yeah. Yeah, I'd love

996
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: to speak. They just got to reach out and I

997
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: haven't received an email yet, So I'd always be open

998
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: in Hell. I'd love to fire down at cal Poly.

999
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: But trust me, no no one's asking me to speak

1000
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: anytime soon. Uh. Since you're open talking about college football,

1001
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: I think if you aren't already, you need to keep

1002
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: an eye on Ronald ron Dale Moore. This guy is

1003
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a Heisman sleeper. Reggie Bush himself even tweeted

1004
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: it more and said he reminds them of self regard

1005
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: of us are being part of a smaller football program.

1006
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: What is your take on him? Scout minded opinions. Well,

1007
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I have never heard of Ron

1008
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 1: Dale More, So I'm gonna type him. Great part about

1009
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: having a phone is perdue boiler Maker five nine, first

1010
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: team All Big Ten last year. See how many yards

1011
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: you rushed for? Rush for eleven yards, twelve touchdowns. You

1012
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: want a little live scouting report on YouTube on Ron

1013
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: Dale more Now he's not draft eligible because he is

1014
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: a freshman, but I'll find a little little highlight tape

1015
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: of ron Dale Moore. Great part about YouTube is I

1016
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: like some good beats in the back of my Ron

1017
00:51:52,200 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: Dale Moore. YEA, So this guy. So he's a little

1018
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: receiver playing in the slot. He's got some jukes, change

1019
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: the direction you can fly. Is he a slot receiver?

1020
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Is he a running back? I think he's a running

1021
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: Is he a slot receiver? That's what he looks like. Yeah,

1022
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's a playmaker. I like him. I'm gonna

1023
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: keep an eye on him. Appreciate you with the heads

1024
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: up there. I honestly had never heard of him, but

1025
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm not quite as locked in as I once was

1026
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: on on Big ten Sleepers. Right now, what are the

1027
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: chances Casey brings in another veteran running back, assuming Damian

1028
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: Williams can't stay healthy throughout the season. I read a headline.

1029
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 1: I haven't talked anyone there about him, but I guess

1030
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: Carlos hid has been having a really good training camp.

1031
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: Carlos Hide to me somewhat of an underachiever, but he

1032
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 1: is talented, and I you think with Andy in that offense, Mahomes,

1033
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, Kelsey, Sammy Watkins might not be a bad

1034
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: spot for him to kind of resurrect his career. So

1035
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: I would say, Carlos Hi, Damien Williams claim a guy

1036
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: that's in two thousand nineteen in the NFL. That's that's

1037
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: good enough. Hey, John Eagles fan here, Assuming he comes

1038
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: back from his shoulder injury last year and continues to

1039
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: to progress, what do you think Derek Barnett's ceiling is

1040
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: as an NFL player? Thanks? Love the podcast. Uh, that's

1041
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: a hell of a question. I haven't watched him that

1042
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: much in the pros. Loved him as a college player

1043
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: coming out of Tennessee. To me, he kind of had

1044
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: the the poor man's version of an Miller, really explosive

1045
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: edge rusher, kind of shortened squattire, could bend the edge. Uh,

1046
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: he's in a place where they love getting up field.

1047
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: They play fast on it as a defensive line in

1048
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: terms of there's not much messing around. You're not two gapping,

1049
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: you're not dropping into coverage, You're getting up the field.

1050
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 1: And Jim sports attack, attack, attack. I liked this player

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Speaker 1: a lot. He has I'm pretty sure he's missing games. Right.

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Speaker 1: Did he tear his a c L last year or

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00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: two years ago? That that would be my only concern.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking up his his page right now because he's

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Speaker 1: born in got a feel old when I look at

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Speaker 1: this stuff. So Burnett, he finished his college crew at

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Speaker 1: thirteen sacks, and he was a double digit sack guy

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Speaker 1: every year. As a rookie. He was basically a backup

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Speaker 1: right in the Super Bowl winning team that had a

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Speaker 1: bunchet loaded. Okay, last year he had the He's placed

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Speaker 1: on injury reserve with the shoulder injury. So it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be that concerning. I mean, he's played two years he

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Speaker 1: missed half the season last year. He's got eight career

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Speaker 1: sacks seven games. Last year had five sacks or excuse

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Speaker 1: me five, and now he had two and a half sacks,

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Speaker 1: So they're gonna depend on him. You take a guy

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Speaker 1: in the first round, I would say, coming off an injury,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna want well digit sacks. This is a big

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Speaker 1: year for that guy. Man kept first round pick because

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Speaker 1: after this year you gotta decide, I you're gonna pick

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Speaker 1: up the fifth year option. And the Eagles are cutthroat,

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Speaker 1: so if he's not good enough, they'll move on or

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Speaker 1: they'll put pressure on him. This is this is a

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Speaker 1: big season for the kid. For sure. I liked him

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Speaker 1: a lot come out of Tennessee. But to be completely honest,

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Speaker 1: I haven't really studied that much as he has been

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Speaker 1: in the pros because I watched a lot of Eagles games,

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Speaker 1: But last year he didn't play that much. Of the

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Speaker 1: previous year, he was just a backup. Hey, John, big supporter.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering if there are any tips you can

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Speaker 1: give to me into starting my own podcast with my brother.

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00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: We're two really huge sports fans who would love to

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00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: get a podcast going locally and then able to just

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Speaker 1: expand it one day becoming a scout for a college

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00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: or professional team. So you want to do podcasting scouting,

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00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: that's unique professional career path. Even if you don't respond,

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00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: thanks for reading. Just give me hope my idea when

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00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: everyone asked me about like, how do you do a pod?

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00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: How do you do a pod? There's never been an

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00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: easier time to do anything media wise. To start recording

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00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: yourself talk and tweet it out. Put it on Instagram,

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00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: put it on YouTube. There are all these websites that

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00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: will just host your content. Just go to Twitter and

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00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: post a two minute video of you talking. Do a podcast,

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00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: tweet it out, go to Instagram, show the link, go

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00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: to YouTube. Link it with Facebook, link it to your

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00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: if you've got five Facebook friends, put it up there,

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00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: see if people listen. It takes time, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: I've been doing media stuff now since two and it

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Speaker 1: just it. It takes time. I'm still going you just

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Speaker 1: it's a work in progress. You're not gonna figure it

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Speaker 1: out overnight. But there's never been an easier time. Like

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Speaker 1: I use Instagram. For those of you that follow me

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00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: on Instagram, I just post videos on their short you know,

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00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: probably two to three minute videos talking about football. There's

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00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: no like, no one told me to do it. I

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00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: just do it. Try to grow following on Instagram. It's

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00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: a much happier place on Twitter. I enjoy it. I

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00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: like talking short blurbs. Good for millennials. Just mess around,

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00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: see what works, see what doesn't work. That that's always

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Speaker 1: my advice. Hey, John Middlcoff, how did you get your

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Speaker 1: start with an NFL team? I worked in college football.

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00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: And this is another question when everyone asked me, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to work in the NFL, How do I

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Speaker 1: do it? How do I do it? I want to

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00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: work in the NFL, How do I do it? Go

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Speaker 1: to college football and try to get with a Division

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00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: one program and scouting or coaching, and that's usually the way.

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00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: Like check all these guys bios beside Bill Belichick who

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Speaker 1: started in the NFL at twenty two years old, Sean

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Speaker 1: McVeigh I think did too, but it's it's very rare.

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Speaker 1: Like even Kyle Shanahan was a g A in college football.

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Speaker 1: Now he had his name's Kyle Shanahan. But you get

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Speaker 1: my drift start in college That's that's the way to

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Speaker 1: do it as a forty Niner fan, I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to the start of the season with a healthy Jimmy

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Speaker 1: g I think with Jimmy healthy and the editions of

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Speaker 1: wide receiver plus Boston four on the d line, we

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Speaker 1: can make a playoff run. How many more years do

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Speaker 1: you have between before Shanahan and Jimmy make the forty

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Speaker 1: Niners true Super Bowl contenders. Uh, they're probably a couple

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Speaker 1: core players away. But I say it all the time,

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Speaker 1: if you are a good coach in the NFL, you

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs in your first couple of years. So

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Speaker 1: if Kyle Shanahan, who I think is a high level coach,

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Speaker 1: and if they had a draft from scratch with GMS

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Speaker 1: picking coaches, he'd go a lot higher than people think.

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Speaker 1: Definitely a lot higher than his record would justify. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a really good coach. But the time is now.

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Speaker 1: He has to make the playoffs this year. He has

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Speaker 1: to have a winning record this year. Like there's no

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Speaker 1: excuses anymore. A couple of years in like Sean mcvegets

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Speaker 1: to l A, they win, Bill O'Brian gets to Houston

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Speaker 1: that they go to the playoffs. Any reed shows up,

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00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs are terrible, they win when he showed up to Philly.

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Speaker 1: He took him a couple of years during the playoffs.

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00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin gets to gets the Giants a couple of

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Speaker 1: years during the playoffs. Good coaches, you don't need to

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Speaker 1: win the super Bowl, you know, but you get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's just the way this league works. Proven

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Speaker 1: over and over, check coaches resumes within their first three years.

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00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: Good coaches make the playoffs. A lot of them do

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Speaker 1: it within their first two. So this is a massive,

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Speaker 1: massive year for for Kyle Shanahan. I don't think the

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Speaker 1: best case scenario would probably be like win the division

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Speaker 1: and maybe win a playoff game. But if they won

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Speaker 1: the division, they would probably still play in the first

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Speaker 1: weekend because they would be hard for them to win

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Speaker 1: over ten games. I think they're a year away from

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Speaker 1: adding like a blue chip wide receiver and maybe just

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Speaker 1: a another impact defensive player. But I think that they

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Speaker 1: have no excuse, let me repeat, no excuse to not

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Speaker 1: be competitive and a legit playoff contender. If Jimmy plays

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Speaker 1: all the games. I'm assuming Jimmy's gonna play all the games.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't, that situation of disaster, you're probably looking

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Speaker 1: at Jimmy Garoppolos last year in San Francisco. But if

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Speaker 1: Jimmy plays sixteen games, they are not saying they should

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Speaker 1: be in the playoffs because the NFC is stacked and

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00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: their division is pretty good. Even though I think ten

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Speaker 1: wins hell, I think nine wins could win the NFC

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Speaker 1: West this year. Though, like I still have a lot

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Speaker 1: of respect for the Rams, ton of respect for Seattle.

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Speaker 1: The time is now. The time is now for Kyle

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Speaker 1: John Lynch and just the forty Niners in general. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: everyone listening. Thanks for making the middlecoff mailback phone again.

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Speaker 1: Do it every do it every week, do what every show.

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Speaker 1: I mean, side up in those d m uh let

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Speaker 1: me know if you have any thoughts, ideas and always

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01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: open to whatever you got. Hit me up and uh

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Speaker 1: enjoy the week. We got football. I think we got

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01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: preseason games on Thursday night, So get ready baby. Talk

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Speaker 1: to you guys soon, Audios. May the peace be with you, godspeed,

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Speaker 1: see you