1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. The Late Kick is live. It 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: is Sunday night, It is March twenty second to the 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: year of Our Lord, twenty twenty. We are still here 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: as long as we can be here another essential personal 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: only edition of Late Kick. But we are jam packed. 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: In fact, we're gonna have to cram this one into 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: the allotted time. Tonight. I'm going to talk some about 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Nick Saban and Alabama and how they're probably, you know, 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: in a little bit more fortuitous a position maybe right now, 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: relative to what the position they're normally in is as 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: we go into an offseason. Make more sense of that momentarily. 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: Also going to hit the state of Florida. Just work 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: our way all the way up ninety five, everywhere in 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: between Miami, Florida, State Florida. Is anyone positioned to take 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: over that state or take control of things? And I'm 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: going to tell you why it matters from the perspective 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: of Georgia, really the entire SEC, the entire Big Ten, Clemson, 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: the entire ACC and really college football in general. In fact, 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: if you're one of those folks who longs for parody 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: in the sport, and you long for a No November 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: where fifteen teams are still in the national championship race. 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: I would tell you keep dreaming, but it is possible. 23 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: But to have that happen, someone needs to take control 24 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: in the state of Florida. I'm gonna make more sense 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: out of that too. Also, the other night, we had 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: a Q and a sort of not a session, but 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: I asked you on the channel and then a few 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: of you chimed in and you had some questions that 29 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: you wanted. Well, I didn't get to all of them, 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: so I had someone that didn't necessarily ask a question. 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: What they wanted to know is what were some of 32 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: the best stories that we had. So I said, you 33 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: know what, Colin, we'll have some time on the show 34 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: this Sunday night. I'm gonna give you a couple of stories. 35 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna weave those in between sort of the 36 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: fabric and texture of the show tonight. And also there 37 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: are some games of the year, you know, those old 38 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: points spreads that you guys like to talk about so much. 39 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Not gonna dive too deep. In fact, the piece of 40 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: paper is over here, separate from my normal stack. But 41 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: I got some lines that I want to put out 42 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: there for you, not necessarily to tell you where to 43 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: wager your shekels or to tell you to do period, 44 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: but I do want to tell you what those lines 45 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: mean and where oddsmakers may be showing you their hand 46 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: just a little bit. We're happy to have you here. 47 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: If you haven't already subscribed to the channel, click the 48 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: bell for notifications, subscribe to the Late Kick podcast. Wherever 49 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: you get your podcast, give us one of those five 50 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: star reviews and a comment. We would greatly appreciate that. 51 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: So I want to get started with this tonight. I 52 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: was sort of looking over some of your comments the 53 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: other night in the video, and I saw something that 54 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: really I meant to touch on the other night, but 55 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: I didn't, So I'm gonna do it now. Nick Saban 56 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: did not make a change on his coaching staff at 57 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: the coordinator positions now elsewhere he did. But Nick Saban 58 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: ends up in twenty twenty going into this upcoming season 59 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 1: with the same pair of coordinators that he had last year. 60 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian is his offensive coordinator, and how about this 61 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: Pete Golding still the defensive coordinator. As the dust has 62 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: settled there in the off season. Nick Saban, in other words, 63 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: did not end up having to make moves that he 64 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: normally has to. You could argue to me he wanted to, 65 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, he just couldn't quite get it to work. 66 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: He couldn't find a suitable candidate out there to replace. 67 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: I know what the rumors were in the offseason, guys, 68 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: but bottom line is he still has the same two 69 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: there that he had last year. I want you to 70 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: remember twenty nineteen with me. It ended, of course, with 71 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: Alabama falling to Auburn and the Iron Bowl forty eight 72 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: forty five. They go to beat Michigan in the bowl game, 73 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: but the regular season ends on a sour note. Defense 74 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: at various points last year looked about as bad as 75 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: it's looked at any point under Nick Saban, and everyone 76 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: with a source in and around Tuscaloosa told you, oh, 77 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: Golding's out of here. Man. Pete Golden defense coordinator there. 78 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: Pete Golden's going to be gone. He might as well 79 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: pack his backs. He's going to be gone. I'm not 80 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: even going to tell you that I didn't believe that, 81 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: because I kind of believe that he was going to 82 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: be gone as well. He's not again. You could tell 83 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: me whatever reason led to that. You could tell me that, Well, 84 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: Saban tried to get a Golding a job elsewhere and 85 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: it didn't happen. He didn't just like to fire people. Well, 86 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have that confirmed, nor to you. So 87 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: here's what we do know. Pete Golding is still there. 88 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: But I don't want to go back to two. I 89 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: want to go back to twenty seventeen to set the 90 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: proper context for why Alabama may be in a pretty 91 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: advantageous position right now, even above and beyond what they 92 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: normally have in terms of advantage, just because of the 93 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: roster advantage that they have. Go back with me to 94 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. You remember this, Jeremy Pruitt was the defensive 95 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: coordinator there they won a national championship. Pru It, of course, 96 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: moves on to Tennessee what did Saban do well? He 97 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: promotes from within, guided by the name of taj Lupoi, 98 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: superstar on the recruiting trail, completely in over his head 99 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinator. In fact, people up to and 100 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: including Nick Saban himself realized that a few weeks into 101 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: the season, and so it was a Chinese fire drill 102 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: behind the scenes for Alabama that year. That's something that 103 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: pretty much everyone close to that program does know. In fact, 104 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: Pete Golding was already involved in some of the play 105 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: calling aspects, a game day aspect role that normally a 106 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator would hold. Midway through the twenty eighteen season. 107 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: Lapois out of there after the twenty eighteen season. We've 108 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: had two coordinator changes in two years. Now, insert Pete 109 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: Golding for the twenty nine teen season. Now, a lot 110 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: of folks when they tell you this story, they just 111 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: want to fast forward to the very end. Well, we 112 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: can't do that. We need context. Remember, Bama fan, specifically, 113 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: I want you to remember how much you were growing 114 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: tired of changes in the coaching stat every single year. 115 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: You weren't the only ones who felt that way. Nick 116 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: Saban felt that way, and so he put together a 117 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: staff going into the twenty nineteen season. Into last year. 118 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: He felt great about it. His staff felt great about it. 119 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: They felt that they had an energy and a continuity 120 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: there that remember what the stories behind the scenes were. 121 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: They didn't have a season before, and they had a 122 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: lot of internal dissension, and so it was time to 123 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: hit the reset button and let's get a group in 124 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: there that we think will gel and Coalesce, and they'll 125 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: be around the core of these guys will be around 126 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: a few years. Well, that was the goal and still 127 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: is the goal. Problem was then the off season before 128 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen season happened. Do you remember all these names. 129 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to read your list of names. Okay, some 130 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: have played at Alabama, some have never played at Alabama. 131 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what they all have in common. 132 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: Dylan Moses, you know that name. Josh McMillan, you know 133 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: that name. Vandarius Cowen. A lot of you may not 134 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: know that name. Nikoby Dean, you know him from playing 135 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: at Georgia. Henry Totoo, you know him from playing at Tennessee. 136 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: My point is, in twenty eighteen, whether it was because Moses, McMillan, 137 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: and Cowen were healthy at that point, or because Alabama 138 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: was thought to be the leader in the driver's seat 139 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: in the recruitments of Nikoby Dean and Henry Totoo, it 140 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: looked like all of those guys were going to be 141 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: on the roster for Bama the next year. As it 142 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: turns out, they don't land Totoo, they don't land Nikoby Dean, 143 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: Vandarius Cowen, asked transfer out of there for disciplinary reasons. 144 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: They lose Dylan Moses to injury, they lose Josh McMillan 145 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: to injury. Their linebacking corps is as gutted as gutted gets. 146 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: It looks terrible from the communication aspects to people getting 147 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: in the proper positions, to miss tackles and poor angles 148 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: during games. They notably missed twenty five tackles in the 149 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: game against LSU. You could say, well, LSU's got some 150 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: really great athletes. They make a lot of folks miss 151 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: twenty five times. For Alabama, there's a little bit something 152 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: more going on there than just than just LSU being elite. 153 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: So then we get to the end of the year 154 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: and you got two camps that form the overwhelming majority 155 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: is in the camp of hey, results are results, Golden 156 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: has got to be gone. And then you got a 157 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: relatively smaller camp over here that says, who I mean, 158 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: Venable's best defense coordinator in the country, who would have 159 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: been able to deal with the rash of injuries that 160 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: Alabama had. Well, again we arrive back to present day. 161 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: Nick Saban did not make a move at defensive coordinator, 162 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: and believe it or not, he had the power to. 163 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: So now Alabama gets ready a couple of weeks ago 164 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: to enter spring and no one was really talking about 165 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: the fact that they had staff continuity. And it's only 166 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: a headline when they don't have guys returning. It's really 167 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: only big headline when Alabama has to replace five or 168 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: six coaches. No one really talks about when they return 169 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: both of their coordinators. But I'm going to talk about 170 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: it because guess what happened. All of a sudden, you 171 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: get something called the coronavirus that comes down the pipe 172 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: and they take spring ball from you. And while this 173 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: guy on your screen right now, Nick Saban has both 174 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: of his coordinators. He's not having to worry about installing 175 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: a new offense or installing aspects of a new defense. 176 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: Everyone around him is having to. LSU brought in a 177 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator, Auburn's got a new OC. Both the 178 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: schools in Mississippi have new staffs completely, so does the 179 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: folks in Fayette, Arkansas. George's got a new offensive coordinator, 180 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: and there sits Nick Saban, same coordinator as he had 181 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: last year. You're not talking about it right now. I 182 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: think you will be talking about it come August, when 183 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: finally we get some actual football that's going to be 184 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: played a few weeks down the road. And you got 185 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: schools out there trying to install systems, and then you 186 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: got Alabama over there. They still got a pretty good 187 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: roster guys, and they got a really good quarterback that's 188 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: the incumbent and a potential superstar that if he comes 189 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: in and beats him out, you won't have any doubt 190 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: about either. Young But isn't it funny how, all of 191 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: a sudden, because of factors that no one could have 192 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: foreseen coming, it could be that Nick Saban not making 193 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: the moves that everyone expected him to make and wanted 194 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: him to make, could be in a situation where more 195 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: of the same ends up being a really, really really 196 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: good thing. Pete Golding. I was asking some folks today 197 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: actually about Pete Golding, some folks really in the know 198 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: around the Alabama program. And every time, and this just 199 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: goes back to reputation, every time that you find someone 200 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: that comes to this sort of fork in the road 201 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: in their own mind of what do I think about 202 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: this or that? Every one of them. I'm talking about 203 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: folks in the NFL. I'm talking about folks in media. 204 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm talking about folks and player personnel positions. They fall 205 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: back on that same thing, and that same thing with 206 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: Alabama is well Saban wanted him. So if Nick Saban 207 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: wants him, if he sees enough in him, then that's 208 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: got to count for something, right, Yes, yes, it does, 209 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: all right? Before we move on speaking about LSU. There, 210 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: I told you I was just gonna mix some of 211 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: these stories in this one is It's not fun at all, 212 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: but it's fun to remember, you know. I'll just lay 213 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: it out those of you who watched Late kickback when 214 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: I was in Columbus. I think I told this story 215 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: a couple of times, but it always bears repeating. The 216 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: year I believe was two thousand and sixteen. LSU ad Auburn. 217 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: It was a crazy couple of weeks because the week 218 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: after that we would have been in Athens, Georgia, where 219 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: Tennessee went walk off Josh Dobbs, I believe it was 220 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: to Juwan Jennings, Butch Jones about Tears' acl celebrating. So 221 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks span I saw that happened the 222 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: week before that. You remember how the LSU Auburn game ended. 223 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: I'm down in a corner end zone where it looks 224 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: like LSU on a heave ends up winning the football game, 225 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: looks like they just went walk off touchdown. Then all 226 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, everyone's eyes go up to the monitor 227 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: because Auburn's got like you ever watched Monday Night Raw, 228 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: they had Titan Tron back in the day. Auburn's got 229 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: one times like fifty. They got a huge video board 230 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: there so everyone can see a crystal clear replay, and 231 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: then they put that clock on there and you see 232 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: triple zeros before the ball is snapped and you've got LSU. 233 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: They're celebrating because I mean, this is in some cases 234 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: for less Miles potentially a career saving and for LSU 235 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: a season saving win. And then the replay happens, and 236 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: then they come back from replay. I can't even hear 237 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: on the field it's so loud, and they overturned the call. 238 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: So I got to see one team celebrate a walk 239 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: off win and then heartbreak, devastation, and then on the 240 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: other side you see the celebration unfold. It was thought 241 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: and whispered and rumored going into that game. It was 242 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: a must win for less Miles to keep his job. 243 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: So less Miles goes from winning the game to losing 244 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: the game. Now I knew what was happening behind the 245 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: scenes with LSU, so I didn't follow Auburn. Normally, I 246 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: follow the team that wins the game. If I have 247 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: an interest in a vested interest in both, I'll follow 248 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: the team that wins the game. Well, that night, I 249 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: hung around the team that lost the game for obvious reasons. 250 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: So I walk up the tunnel there at Jordan Harris Stadium, 251 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: really closet to go single file. That's about how wide 252 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: the tunnel is walking back to the visitors' locker room. 253 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: And so everyone's walking back up that runway there with 254 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: their head down as dark because the game ended after sundown. 255 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: And so JOEA. Leiva, who was the athletic director at 256 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: the time, did a very poor job at LSU, but 257 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: he was the athletic director there at the time. He 258 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: was up the ramp. A number of dignitaries were up 259 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: the ramp. Les Miles's wife had been brought down on 260 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: the field, so she was up the ramp. And so 261 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: what happens a lot of times. If you've ever hung 262 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: around after a game long enough, you'll see it coaches, 263 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: they'll go to their press conference, but if you're the 264 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: road coach, a lot of times you'll come right back 265 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: out on the field once the stadiums emptied, and you'll 266 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: film your coaches show that gets distributed to local television 267 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: stations that aired at different points during the week. So 268 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: Les Miles had to film this coaches show. You are 269 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: contractually obligated to do that. And I walked back out 270 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: on the field. I knew he was about to come 271 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: back down. So he comes back down and there is 272 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: there are these black rod iron gates, the hedges and 273 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: rod iron gates that surround the sidelines at Jordan Hare Stadium. 274 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: So they had his tripods set up there. They were 275 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: waiting for him to come out. So less Miles sort 276 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: of shuffles his feet back out onto the field and 277 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: he's standing there as they're getting in MICD and set 278 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: up white balance and focus and everything. He's just staring 279 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: off in the distance and he's his eyes were as 280 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: white as my shirt is right now. And his wife 281 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: was standing way over here, probably about twenty yards away, 282 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: and she looked physically ill. She was lean, she was 283 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: like doubled over on the right iron gate, and She 284 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: couldn't look at him because she knew and he knew 285 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: that really he just lost his job. It had all 286 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: but been announced. And at that moment, all I could 287 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: think about was how folks watch professional athletes or professional 288 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: coaches and they'll say, when tough times arise, oh, it 289 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I'd love to be in those tough situations 290 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: if you paid me that many millions of dollars a year. 291 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: And basically the insinuation is the human emotion doesn't hit 292 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: them like it does me. You know, I'm working forty 293 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: hours a week and I'm barely making ends meet. But 294 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: since they make seven figures a year, life is different 295 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: for them. And I can tell you right now, in 296 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: that moment, less miles wife nor less Miles could have 297 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: cared any less how many zeros were going to be 298 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: in the He was about to get a buy out guy, 299 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: so how many zeros were going to be on the 300 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: end of his buyout Because the truth of it is, 301 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: most coaches live well within their means. They don't have 302 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: enough time to spend their money anyway. Their wives may, 303 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: but they don't. They don't live these extravagant lives. They 304 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: don't really care necessarily about the money. They care about 305 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: the position. They care about having ascended to the top 306 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: of the sport. And when someone takes them and tells 307 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: them you're no longer good enough to hold one of 308 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: these positions, sometimes you'll get back there. More times than not, 309 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: you won't. So what we were witnessing that night was 310 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: a guy who was being told that his spot had 311 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: been taken and possibly you know to this day, Less 312 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: Miles he's the head coach of Kansas right now, but 313 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: Kansas is not LSU. Kansas is in the middle of 314 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: the Big twelve. I pulled for less Miles as much 315 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: as anyone, but that night I was tough to watch, 316 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: and that was something that I looked around and I 317 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: realized no one else was on the field. So we 318 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: told that story down in Columbus. I was going to 319 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: share it with you because we got some time in 320 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: the off season. I got one coming up, I got 321 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: another one coming up, I asked Colin, should I tell 322 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: this one? We got another point to get to first. 323 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: But there was a time in twenty fifteen year before 324 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: that that involved Lane Kiffin and some stuff again that 325 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: you get to see. One of the benefits, one of 326 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: the perks of covering this sport is you get to 327 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: see some stuff normally after games that maybe you don't 328 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: get to see necessarily if you bought a ticket, and 329 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: I've been in both seats, trust me, and so I'll 330 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: tell you that story in a few minutes. Speaking of 331 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: the state of Florida, because that's where Kifn ended up coaching, 332 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about his stop that he 333 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: made there, but I am going to talk about a 334 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: few other programs here. Simple question, is anyone ready to 335 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: take control in the state of Florida, any of the 336 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: major in states powers? I use that term with varying 337 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: degrees of relativity right now, because there's not a whole 338 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: lot of power going on. Admittedly, University of Florida has 339 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: things very much in line to regain their footing for 340 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: an extended period of time. They finished top what were 341 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: they number six last year in the final poll? Back 342 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: to back double digit win seasons. I know the resume. 343 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: Florida by ten miles is in the best position right now. 344 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: If we're going to put the blank out there and 345 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: put someone's name in it, Florida is, by ten miles 346 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: the closest to being able to assume that. But I 347 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: want to pause on Florida and just ask you a question. 348 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: Are you in the parody crowd? Are you someone who 349 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: longs for parody in the sport of college football? If 350 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I think most of you are. If you're 351 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: in that crowd that craves parody, that craves more than 352 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: four or five teams being there at the end every 353 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: single year, and it seems like it's the same helmet 354 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: stickers there at the end of every year. You need 355 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: to focus on the state of Florida. You need to 356 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: see some one take control in Florida because right now, 357 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: neither Florida State nor Miami have kept up their end 358 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: of the deal, and it's allowed Clemson in a large part, 359 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: to run away with the ACC and Florida, Miami and 360 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: Florida State combined not being able to recruit at a 361 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: powerhouse level in their state has allowed Alabama and Georgia 362 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: and Ohio State and Clemson and other programs to come 363 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: and raid the most fruitful state west of the Mississippi 364 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: or east of the Mississippi when it comes to recruiting in America. 365 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: And so what would happen. Let's just toss around the 366 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: idea for a second, what would happen if one of 367 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: these programs regained peak form, much less two of them. 368 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: Let's just say one, but there's no reason why more 369 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: than one can't. Here, Florida is the closest. The roster 370 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: is better than everyone else right now in the state 371 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: of Florida. The staff I think is excellent on a Saturday. 372 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: I think they were average when they put it together 373 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: initially from a recruiting standpoint, I think they've elevated to good. 374 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: Now they need to be better than good. But I 375 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: think they're better as a recruiting staff than they were. 376 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: But then there are other aspects here that you look at. 377 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: They have a head start. Dan Mullen has a head 378 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: start on what you have at Florida State right now. 379 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: We're going to touch on that in a second with 380 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: Mike Norveld, and also what you have at Miami, because 381 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't really know what you have 382 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: at either of those programs. So yeah, Florida is clearly 383 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: in a better position than everyone else here with Miami. 384 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: I have no clue. Said this to Colin. Collin's our director. 385 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: By the way, I mentioned his name all the time. 386 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: Someone asked me the other day, who's Colin. He's a 387 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: lovely young man, lovely young man, and he's sitting two 388 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: walls away from me right here. So I asked Colin, Well, 389 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: in the world's Miami, and it was kind of not 390 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: in an agreement. No one knows what Miami is. Last year, 391 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: I thought they blew a golden opportunity. What happened was 392 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: Florida tried to gift wrapped the opening game of the season. 393 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: You remember they played that Week zero game in Orlando. 394 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: We were there. It was like one hundred and fifteen 395 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: degrees and it was a turnover fest and Miami had 396 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: every opportunity to win the game and they didn't win 397 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: the game. Okay, well, that's fine, because Florida is a 398 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: power from the SEC. It's not gonna kill your season 399 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: to lose to them. But then North Carolina, Virginia Tech, 400 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech f i U Duke shut out by Louisiana 401 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: Tech in the bowl game. They ended up losing seven games. 402 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: Quarterback play was bad. Offensive line play was not very 403 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: good at all. It could be even worse this year. 404 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: They're in a bad place with their offensive line right now. Now. 405 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: The one potential answer that we have. I say potential 406 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: cause even you guys in Coral Gables don't fully know yet. 407 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: Is yes, Derrek King comes in from Houston, so maybe 408 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: there's an answer at quarterback. But again, we're trying to 409 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: install a new system offensively. With Rhet Lashley coming in 410 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: at Miami, spring gets taken from us. Don't know when 411 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: offseason workouts will commence. Are we gonna have to install 412 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: and also get ready to open a season. Are we 413 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: gonna be in any position to capitalize if maybe we 414 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: have a fortuitous path schedule wise this year. No one knows. 415 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: There's so many unknowns with Miami right now. I thought 416 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: they had a really good opportunity last year, even with 417 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: the loss to Florida to open the year, and they 418 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: couldn't get it done. Now with Florida State, they're in 419 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: a terrible spot, but also in a great spot. I'm 420 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: gonna tell you why they're in a terrible spot, and 421 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: this is not unique to them. They just picked the 422 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: worst time to hire a new coach. I think they 423 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: hired the right new head coach after a disastrous hire 424 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: in Willie Taggart. More on that than just a second 425 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: Mike Norvel is the right guy. I have a lot 426 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: of confidence that he'll end up getting the job done there. 427 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: I think he'll maybe not with the full staff that 428 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: he has right now. Maybe you know, there will be 429 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: a process to gradually overturning over two three four year 430 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: period his staff to where eventually he builds a really, 431 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: really powerhouse recruiting staff. I think that'll happen with Mike Norvel. 432 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: Problem is, it's the same way at the Mississippi Schools Arkansas. 433 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: Anyone who brought in a new head coach. You couldn't 434 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: have planned on not having spring, but yet you don't 435 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: have spring. And so there was a huge culture issue 436 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: at Florida State. Most of the time there is not 437 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: everybody gets to do what Kirby Smart did and inherit 438 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: Lamborghini with a couple of flat tires. Like most of 439 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: the time, when you inherit a name brand program, it's 440 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: because things inside are rotten. So things inside the Florida 441 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: program had completely rotted and the exterior showed. I mean, 442 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: it's not like their record on Saturdays left anything to 443 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: the imagination. But he comes in and you're all about culture, culture, culture, 444 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: and now springs canceled now everyone's off campus. Now you 445 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: can't talk to folks, and so it's just the worst 446 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: of the worst, relatively speaking, you know, from a football standpoint. 447 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: But here's what's great about it. What's great about it 448 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: is at least the people who made the terrible decision 449 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: hiring Willie Taggart as the head coach of Florida State. 450 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't have problem with Taggart as a coach, as 451 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: the head coach of Florida State, allowing him to learn 452 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: on your dime was inexcusable, always was. I think a 453 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: lot of folks rooted for him. I have no problem 454 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: rooting for him, But at the same time, I mean, 455 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: a bad hire is a bad hire. At least they 456 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: pulled the trigger quickly instead of letting it play out 457 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: two or three more years and then all of a 458 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: sudden you're much further down a dead end road than 459 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: they currently are. So I think Mike Norvel will get 460 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: it turned around in time. But our guys over at 461 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: Noel's two four seven dot com they've done a three 462 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: part podcast series on Willy Taggart fascinating. I intended to 463 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: listen to like ten minutes of it, and I've now 464 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: listened to about two and a half of the three episodes, 465 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: and it's called on the Bench. By the way, if 466 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: you guys want to listen to the podcast, it's called 467 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: the on the Bench Podcast. But they did a three 468 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: parter on just where everything went wrong with Willy Taggart. 469 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: You cannot overstate enough the incompetence and the total cluster 470 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: that was FSU football under Willy Taggart. From a behind 471 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: the scenes aspect, that program lacked the organization that it 472 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: would take to win most high school regions. And I 473 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: don't say that sarcastically. I say that very very seriously. 474 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: Go listen, let's go read up or listen if the 475 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: results on the field weren't evidence of fascinating how some 476 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: people end up in positions of power. But it always 477 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: goes back to something I talk about a lot. One 478 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: think I've talked about it since we've done the show 479 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: at twenty four to seven, but believe me, I will 480 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: there is a different formula. Getting hired in college football 481 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: is the head coach versus getting hired in the NFL. 482 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: In the NFL, you have to convince a lot of 483 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: football people to hire you. You cannot get hired as 484 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: a head coach. You know, barring the one percent of 485 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: organizations out there over the span of history that have 486 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: been incompetent themselves most of the time, if you're getting 487 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: hired as a head coach in the NFL, XS and 488 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: O is not even a question organizational and leadership, they're 489 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: not questions. You have cut your teeth, you've paid your dues, 490 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: and there is nothing that is doubted about your pedigree 491 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: and the ability to lead other men, lead an organization, 492 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: and coach and teach the game. In college, you're trying 493 00:23:54,560 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: to convince administrators and boosters and fundraisers, the crowd that 494 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: you have to win over. A lot of good salesmen 495 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: could win over. And that's what Willy Taggart did. And 496 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: then he stepped to the podium on his introductory press 497 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: conference and he won a lot of people over the 498 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: same way because he's really good at selling himself. Problem is, 499 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: you don't win selling, you don't sell wins. You gotta 500 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: earn wins, and they couldn't earn wins. So out with 501 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: Willy Taggart, in with Mike Norvel, and we arrived back 502 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: at the same question, is anyone ready to take over 503 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: the state of Florida. And my answer is, if there 504 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: is someone, it'll be the University of Florida. But like 505 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: I've told you, with Florida until they beat Georgia, this 506 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: is all a moot point I was. In fact, I'm 507 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna look at these in a second. Some of these 508 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: lines of the year. There are a lot of people 509 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: in the odds making community that have a lot of 510 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: confidence in Florida this year. I think those same odds 511 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: makers may have a little hesitation with Georgia. Not from 512 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: a roster standpoint, but I think from a quarterback standpoint 513 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: new offense. You know, there's a remains to be seen 514 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: kind of collective mentality out there around Georgia. But if 515 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: someone can do it, my first guess would be Florida. 516 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: But think about what it would mean if someone like 517 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: Miami someone like Florida State. And I always mention those 518 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: two because they're in geographically the best position by ten 519 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: miles to theoretically compete. I mean, that's the way this 520 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: was supposed to work when they set the conference up 521 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: the way it is. If you get someone or two 522 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: programs ideally that all of a sudden sort of meet 523 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: their standard. Historically in Florida State and or Miami, and 524 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: then you also got Florida humming in the SEC. Not 525 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: only do you have a more balanced SEC Eastern Division, 526 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: and not only do you have a more balanced or 527 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: at least challenging path for the Clemson Tigers year in 528 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: and year out, but also it's not as easy for 529 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: Ohio State and Alabama and Georgia to just go into 530 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: Florida because right now, guys, those teams are out recruiting 531 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: the in state teams. Ohio State versus Florida State, heads 532 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 1: up for a kid in Florida. Right now, Buckey's are 533 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: winning that thing at least six out of ten times. 534 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: Alabama versus Florida right now, Bama's winning those battles a 535 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: majority of the time. That's not the way it's supposed 536 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: to be. Clemson versus Miami. Right now, Clemson's got the 537 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: upper hand in the state of Florida. Friend state kids. 538 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: So if you want a little more parody in the sport, 539 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: not only does Miami winning more recruiting battles help them 540 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: against Clemson, but it also if Clemson makes it into 541 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs, so they're you know, in a blind resume 542 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: test at the end of the year, they don't look 543 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: like a borderline AFC East team. Maybe you have shaved 544 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: off the bottom twenty percent of their roster from an 545 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: elite standpoint that they are able to accumulate. Now Bama 546 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: is able to accumulate it. Now, I'm not telling you 547 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: that those programs couldn't go elsewhere and get talent, but 548 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: I am telling you, if you're able to suck up 549 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more of your own end state talent, 550 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: it brings a few more people potentially to the head table, 551 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: and maybe just a touch over here and just a 552 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: touch over here, it pulls some of these teams that 553 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: have started to really pull away from the sport back 554 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: down to the head table. More people at the head 555 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: table equals more parody, equals a lot of you are happier. 556 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, watch the state of Florida because 557 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: that's where the action is. To me, that's where the 558 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: action is more so than any other state. Right now. 559 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: Another thing that I wanted to tell you about. So 560 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: I told you about less Miles getting fired. Someone was 561 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: talking Lane Kiffin the other night, and so I wanted 562 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: to tell you this one too. If you just joined 563 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: us by the way, what we're doing is not very structured. 564 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: Got a couple more points to make. But someone the 565 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: other night, once we had already gone off the air 566 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: and our Q and A, they asked just for some 567 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: stories and behind the scenes stories, roads stories, and we 568 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: got a million of them. So I mean, we can 569 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: do this the entire summer as long as we're allowed 570 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: in the building. Bingers crossed. They hadn't barred us. I mean, 571 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: our keys still work tonight, so we're still here. Twenty fifteen. 572 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: How well do you remember that year? Twenty fifteen fascinating? 573 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: Or was it twenty sixteen? Know, I think it was 574 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, actually, so twenty sixteen. You know, that was 575 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: the same year that the less miles story happened. Twenty sixteen. 576 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: I got a lot of stories from for whatever reason. 577 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: The situation is this, Lane Kiffin is the offensive coordinator 578 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: at Alabama. They're in the SEC championship game against Florida. 579 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: I met the game covering the game. So the talk 580 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: leading up to that week was Lane Kiffin is in 581 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: communication with everywhere from LSU because remember edwars Ron was 582 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: interim there and it was looking like he was gonna 583 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: get the permanent head coach tag and who's he gonna 584 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: hire as his offensive coordinator? Is he gonna get Lane 585 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: Kiffin as his offensive coordinator? Week goes on, there are 586 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: unsubstantiated reports that it's a done deal. After the SEC 587 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: Championship game, he's gonna go, he being Lane Kiffin is 588 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: gonna go to LSU. But then all of a sudden, 589 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 1: guy named Tom Herman, I think, leaves Houston. We got 590 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: an opening at Houston. That'd be a really good G 591 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: five job for Lane Kiffin to get. Oh, here's some reports. 592 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday. It's Thursday, reports Lane Kiffin Houston. So Kiffin's 593 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: name is linked to like ten jobs. That's Jimmy Sexton, 594 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: his agent doing his job. More on Sexton in about 595 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: twenty seconds. So game ends, Lane Kiffin has given his 596 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: word that he is not gonna speak to anyone until 597 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: after the SEC Championship game. Now I can confirm as 598 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: much as I can right now that Lane Kiffin kept 599 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: his word. And here's how I can confirm it for you. 600 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: He literally meant I'm not going to talk to anyone 601 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: until the SEC Championship game ends. So I find Kiffin 602 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: after the game. I decide to follow him. He Kiffin 603 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: when Alabama would win games. I've been on the field 604 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: with him, win an SEC championships, national championships. It was 605 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: always funny. Lane Kiffin would never be on the stage, 606 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: and he'd never be around the stage. Lane Kiffin would 607 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: walk about thirty or forty yards away back where like 608 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, media would hang out. And when I say media, 609 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean the ones who aren't up on the riser 610 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: taking the pictures me. In other words, I just kind 611 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: of lurk like a loider. Well, Kivin would do the 612 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: same thing, and so he would just kind of stand 613 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: back and he'd watch, just kind of like a fan 614 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: and just watch. So he did that and then crowd 615 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: sort of starts to disperse. The confetti has fallen down. 616 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: I follow Lane Kiffin down the tunnel. In the tunnel, 617 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: I kid you not is his agent, Jimmy Sexton, who 618 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: is holding a cell phone with his hand over the speaker. 619 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: The only thing I don't know is who was on 620 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: the call. But he handed that phone to Lane Kiffin 621 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: as soon as Kiffen walked down the tunnel, and Kiffen 622 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: took a call and right then and there began negotiating 623 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: whatever he was negotiating. Now, as you and I know, 624 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: it turns out that he did not go to LSU. 625 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: It turns out he did not go to Houston. It 626 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: turns out he ended up going to Florida Atlantic. I 627 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: don't know that Fau was on the phone, but I 628 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: do know that there was a phone call waiting for 629 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: him as soon as he stepped off the field in 630 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: the Georgia Dome. Rest in peace. Georgia Dome, by the way. Now, 631 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: a lot of you like Mercedes ben Stadium. It's not 632 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: a bad facility. I do miss the Georgia Dome, but 633 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: I digress. So then there's this other aspect to this 634 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: whole thing. Lane Kiffin has an agent named Jimmy Sexton. 635 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: Half the world at this level of college football has 636 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: the same agent, and that includes his boss at the time, 637 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: Nick Saban. So Nick Saban walks by them, and it's 638 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: as if they don't even know each other. Saman just 639 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: walks into the locker room, goes to do his press availability, 640 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: comes out of his press conference, walks back past, and 641 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, only in this world would this be 642 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: considered normal, But yet there it was. Now I'm not 643 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: foolish enough to believe saman didn't already know what was 644 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: going on. In fact, I would lead you to believe 645 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: if he very much did know what was going on, 646 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: or maybe he just couldn't have cared less because as 647 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: you recall, Kevin goes on to be the offensive coordinator 648 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: for the semi final and then is fired. This is 649 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: not a story. This is not some thirty for thirty 650 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: in fantasy world. This really happened. Like Alabama won a 651 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: semi final game, fired their offensive coordinator of the week 652 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: of a national championship game lead up, and then almost 653 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: won a national championship. Like that kind of stuff happens 654 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: in college football, and it happened with Alabama. But that 655 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: was interesting to see. There's a lot of Lane Kiffin stories. Obviously, 656 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: don't have time for them all. I'll tell you what 657 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: I do have time for, though. I gotta be careful here, 658 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna name the entity. But unentity has 659 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: released some games of the year, so I'm gonna read 660 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: them to you. I'm just gonna read you a few. 661 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: You can find them search Twitter if you want to. Again, 662 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: gotta be careful naming names here. Excuse me again, I'm 663 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: not supposed to let my finger. So I want you 664 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: to tell me what you think these lines mean. Now 665 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: I know what they actually mean. These are games you 666 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: could go bet on right now if you wanted to. 667 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: But I want you to tell me what you gather 668 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: from this. Georgia plays Alabama in Week three in the 669 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: regular season this year. By the way, Georgia plays in Tuscaloosa, 670 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: Alabama's favored by seven in that game. Right now on 671 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: the futures market, Alabama minus seven. Texas A and M 672 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: plays at Alabama this year, Alabama's favored by nine. What 673 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: did I just tell you? I already gave you if 674 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: you understand simple math. I just gave you the hypothetical 675 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: line between Georgia and Texas A and M on a 676 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: neutral field Georgia at Bama Bama minus seven A and 677 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: M at Bama Bama minus nine. What they've already told 678 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: you in their power ratings here is they've only got 679 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: Georgia as two points better than Texas A and M. 680 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: Now that tells me either one of two things, or 681 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: maybe both things are true. Either odds makers are a 682 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: little bit higher on Texas A and M than maybe 683 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: Joe Schmoe would be, or maybe they're a little bit 684 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: lower on Georgia than Joe Schmoe would be. Let's dig 685 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: in a little bit further. I think both are true. 686 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: I think odds makers are a few points higher on 687 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: Texas A and M right now, and maybe a couple 688 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: of points lower on Georgia. Texas A and M. At Auburn, 689 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: Auburn only favored by three, you shave off the standard. 690 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: I think they give Auburn three to three and a 691 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: half for home field. That's a virtual toss up. I 692 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: mean they're telling you right now, A and M Auburn 693 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: pretty much equal power ratings wise as we sit in 694 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: March and am Atbama. I already gave you, but I 695 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: want to go back to Georgia for a second. How 696 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: about Georgia versus Florida. I think this number was put 697 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: out there initially at Georgia minus one and a half, 698 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: and I think it got bat down to a round pick. 699 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: So this is going to float. It may have floated 700 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: since I came on air point being a lot of 701 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: folks are either confident in Florida or maybe a little 702 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: bit shaky on Georgia, or maybe both. It's clear that 703 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: they have Alabama as their power rated number one team 704 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: in the SEC West. Alabama plays at LSU this year. 705 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: Alabama's opened as a slight favorite round two to three 706 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: points at LSU and Auburn at Alabama Iron Bowl. At 707 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: the end of the year Bama as a seven point favorite. 708 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: There another thing that we can decide from this is 709 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: the Georgia over Texas and M. I told you, but 710 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: also Auburn Georgia. That game's in Athens much earlier in 711 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: the year this year than previous years. I think that 712 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: was Georgia minus three and a half for Georgia minus four. 713 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: So there are a lot of situations here where, Hey, 714 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: if you believe in Jamie Newman, if you believe in 715 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: either the offensive changes that are going to happen at Georgia, 716 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: or you believe like I do, that they'll have one of, 717 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: if not the best defenses in the country, maybe you 718 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: look at these and say huh or there's money to 719 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: be made there. I would also not that these mean 720 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: anything when toe meets leather, but you know, these guys 721 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: typically have a better grasp of the game than your 722 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: uncle would. Texas A and M. I mean, you're going 723 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: into Auburn three point dog home field basically decides there Bama. 724 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: You know how hard it is to go into Alabama 725 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: and be less than a double digit underdog, and you are. 726 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: That would excite me. Of course, at this point, any 727 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: talk of a football season happening would excite me. So 728 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: those are some lines. Again, we got all off season 729 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: to talk about that. But I do want to tell 730 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: you this. There was a phone call I got from 731 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: my buddy last night, who's in this business. I was 732 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: telling Colin about this before the show, and he referred 733 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: to this as the dead season. Now, that's an old 734 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: industry term that is used to refer to just the 735 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: summer period. And I don't believe in it never has 736 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: and I know even though we just got spring ball canceled, 737 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: I don't believe that there is a dead season. Here's 738 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. If you don't have it in you 739 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: to come up with we do two shows a week 740 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: right now, Colin, These are like thirty forty minute shows. 741 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: If you can't come up with thirty forty minutes of 742 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: original content, what are you in the content creation business? For? 743 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: Those are our simple philosophy. So it's not a dead 744 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: season for us. So we're gonna keep doing shows and 745 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to put content out there that's entertaining 746 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: for you. Maybe it's some behind the scenes stuff like 747 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: we did tonight. Maybe it's wagering centric. And I only 748 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: taught gambling on the show. I don't want to make 749 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: it a gambling show. But what I noticed is I 750 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: just gave out points spreads I did to tell you 751 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: who to bet on. A lot of you will never 752 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: and have never gambled a cent on college football, but 753 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: you are fascinated by the odds making process. I am too, 754 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: and so we discuss it from time to time because 755 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: I just think it gives you a different angle and 756 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: different window into the sport. Whether you decide to bet 757 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: on it or not, we always advise you not to, 758 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: but if you do, that's on you. If you don't, though, 759 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 1: I think it's still fascinating to know that right now, 760 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: if this game we're played this week, Texas A and 761 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: M would be a field goal underdog at Auburn, like 762 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have known that otherwise. So that's fun. But 763 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: we have different ways we can go. But I will 764 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: tell you this every comment you leave on this channel, 765 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: and if you haven't subscribed on the YouTube channel, go 766 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: ahead and do It podcast, leave us comment there. I 767 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: read every one of them. I respond to a lot 768 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: of them, the tweets at Late Kick Josh. I see 769 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: everything you send me, but most importantly, I listen to 770 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: what you send me. So if you've got ideas on 771 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: where you want us to go that previously we haven't gone, 772 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: let me know. It's your show. It's not our show. 773 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: We just deliver it to you. So wherever you are tonight, 774 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: we appreciate you joining us. We plan to be back 775 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: here in some shape form or fashion Thursday. Until then, 776 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: stay safe, stay clean, wash those hands for Colin, for Aaron, 777 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm Josh. This has been the Late Kick. Have a 778 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: great week everyone,