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Speaker 1: which means dear friend Donnie meet chum from Okay Magazine

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Speaker 1: dot com is joining us. Donnie, I'm giggling and you've

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Speaker 1: not even so it is Winds Day. I'm super excited

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Speaker 1: to be and I couldn't, honestly cannot let this moment

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Speaker 1: go by. Tomorrow is Thanksgiving and so I have to

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Speaker 1: say a I am very thankful for you Rob shooting,

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Speaker 1: but also thankful for the Natis for embracing us and

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Speaker 1: enjoying this little silly show that we do. I know,

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Speaker 1: my no, it's just talked to Lauren. Lauren filled in

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Speaker 1: we have creative. But I don't look at the charts

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Speaker 1: Lauren does so all day long. She's been tracking the

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Speaker 1: podcast charts and apparently we're doing very well around the world.

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Speaker 1: all over the place. So Lauren, thank you for making

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Speaker 1: me feel really special today and Thanksgiving. I'm grateful for you,

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Speaker 1: Donnie and the noughties to Hey, let's jump into the

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Speaker 1: show because we've got so much gossip to get to.

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Speaker 1: What time is it, my friends? Cheeta. Chrissy Teagan is

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Speaker 1: once again facing back lash. So this time she's coming

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Speaker 1: under fire for posting about her eyebrow transplants. Now, last year,

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Speaker 1: Chrissy was criticized herself for cyber bullying other celebrities, and

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Speaker 1: now some people think she's getting bullied. To let me explain, So,

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Speaker 1: Chrissie took to her Instagram stories to reveal that she's

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Speaker 1: had her eyebrows transplanted. She underwent a procedure to her

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Speaker 1: She posted before and after photos and told her viewers

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Speaker 1: not to overdo it when it comes to grooming their brows. However,

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Speaker 1: lots and lots and lots of fans took issue with that.

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Speaker 1: One person tweeted, people need life saving transplants and you're

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Speaker 1: out of reality talking about your eyebrowers. Yea for you.

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Speaker 1: Another person wrote, who gives a damn? Or all these

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Speaker 1: I have a thyroid disease. I don't care. The real

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Speaker 1: problem is Chrissy Teagan, who needs to disappear now. Chrissie

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Speaker 1: is addressing the backlash, sharing a screenshot of a new

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Speaker 1: story where she's being criticized, and she wrote the following quotes,

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Speaker 1: why are people so effing riled up that every little

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Speaker 1: thing I do? She concluded by saying, You're going to

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Speaker 1: all this? Well, I think poor Chrissy Tigen. And I

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Speaker 1: thought I would never say poor Chrissy Teagan because she

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Speaker 1: has known to be a little bit of a monster

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Speaker 1: in the past and say really terrible things about people U.

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Speaker 1: But I think after this whole bullying scandal came out,

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Speaker 1: I just think she can't win. Anything she does now

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Speaker 1: is going to be scrutinized. She could literally smile on

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Speaker 1: the sweetie? There's people tying around the world, and it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: I could live my life too, just like other people.

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Speaker 1: So I think she's more of a she's damned as

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Speaker 1: she does, damn as she doesn't. I do get you,

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Speaker 1: but I think wouldce you have been exposed, Let's say,

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Speaker 1: like Chrissy has, shouldn't you tread a little bit more carefully?

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Speaker 1: Like I know, if I po about cosmetic surgery, which

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Speaker 1: I would put a little disclaimer in saying, I know

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Speaker 1: this doesn't really matter big picture, but it does to me.

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Speaker 1: I know there's people out there who really need life

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Speaker 1: saving transplants. Obviously, this is a very long caption, but

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Speaker 1: in life. I know myself though, when I only talk

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Speaker 1: about rob shooting, which I've been known to do other

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Speaker 1: people occasionally, Yes, don't you dare look so surprised? Other

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Speaker 1: of what a narcissist I can be. Chrissie, I think

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Speaker 1: like Laurie Laughlin. She has to be careful now. So

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Speaker 1: I think now Chrissy can't just be a regular person.

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Speaker 1: I'm extra kind. So Chrissy, just think of yourself at

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Speaker 1: the moment in the dog house. You're in a little

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Speaker 1: of months. The rest of your career. She's going to

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Speaker 1: It's never going to go away what she did. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying she needs to disappear, but I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this post really helps her as somebody with

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Speaker 1: great eyebrows. To yourself, Donnie, you seem to be defending

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Speaker 1: defend No. I agree she's but Rob. We can be narcissists,

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Speaker 1: l There you go. Dr Donnie has given all the

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Speaker 1: out what you think. So we'll go to a pole

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Speaker 1: of the day. Chrissy Teagan is getting slammed for a

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Speaker 1: post she made about her eyebrow transplants. Is Chrissie being clueless?

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Speaker 1: Or is Chrissie being bullied? Oh? I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see your answer. Go Bowes on a Twitter page at

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Speaker 1: Naughty Nice Rob. Facebook page is Naughty Gossip. You can

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Speaker 1: Here your results, Donnie Darling, what are you working on?

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Speaker 1: The well? Speaking of could be construed as a little

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Speaker 1: bit of NATS assist Here Lori Laughlin's daughters defending their

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Speaker 1: it head on. On Olivia's podcast, she sat down with

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Speaker 1: with our family college emission scandal. Let's call it. It's

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Speaker 1: actually knowing you guys, and knowing Mom has the biggest heart.

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Speaker 1: I agree, nice people do bad things. It doesn't make

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Speaker 1: mean people do things. I mean people can do good things.

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Speaker 1: Nice people can do bad things, But it doesn't help

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Speaker 1: when you say they were nice to me, when you've

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Speaker 1: got that horrible friend. You know the truth. And we also,

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Speaker 1: very aware of people that I'm friendly with. Some of

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Speaker 1: some really shady people, but I don't have anyone in

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Speaker 1: some people we know do, Donnie, and they defend their

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Speaker 1: other people. Not helping, not helping, not helping. Moving along,

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Speaker 1: Prince Harry and Prince William, their legendary rift is now

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Speaker 1: a healthy democracy. However, wouldn't you say, however, it needs

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Speaker 1: everything you've just said we don't agree with. So However,

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Speaker 1: too often it is overblown and unfounded claims from unnamed

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Speaker 1: including the BBC, gives them credibility. Donnie, We've worked in

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Speaker 1: long time. You know when an unnamed source is reliable,

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Speaker 1: and you know when they are not. My unnamed sources

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Speaker 1: have the receipts. They didn't meet the person once at Starbucks,

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Speaker 1: the supermarket. They know them. They're inner circle. Were very,

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Speaker 1: track record when it comes to Mega Marco has receipts

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Speaker 1: for everything that she alleges. They said about them too,

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Speaker 1: so it's like receipts for years, they said Charles and

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Speaker 1: that Diana suffered with Bolima, the unnamed source, now we

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