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Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Live presented by Calida.

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Speaker 2: Help.

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Speaker 3: All right, how is everyone on this Tuesday? Chris Brown,

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Speaker 3: Steve Tasker with you, and uh Phase two is rolling

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Speaker 3: along for the off season program.

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Speaker 4: They were outside today.

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Speaker 3: They were outside on the grass field. Think that that's

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Speaker 3: the first time that has happened, So maybe maybe that's

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Speaker 3: designed the weather.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this too, Like a month ago, was it

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Speaker 4: a month ago? Yeah? A month ago, the practice field

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Speaker 4: was like dead. There was like, yeah, the grass was

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Speaker 4: dead because they tarp it up and then they keep

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Speaker 4: the snow off the tarp. They plow the tarp off

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Speaker 4: and because of that and the weather and the temperature

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Speaker 4: change and the tarps, and there's a big chunk of

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Speaker 4: the practice field that was was completely gone.

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Speaker 1: It was like just dirt.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I had to get resotted and so.

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Speaker 4: They re sotted it over the last I fished a

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Speaker 4: week ago. Man looks nice, it is, Chris, let me say,

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Speaker 4: but it's not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but that's not it. Like people are like, ah,

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Speaker 1: how hard coulda beat to grow grass?

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Speaker 3: We'll have two hundred and fifty three hundred pounds men

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Speaker 3: tearing it up with their cleats, running around and you

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Speaker 3: get a.

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Speaker 1: Better appreciation for the task at hand. Right, it's not

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Speaker 1: like taking care of your lawn at home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they got think about what one dog can do

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Speaker 3: to your lawn and now multiply that by one hundred fifty.

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Speaker 4: Well here's the thing too. I mean, you know, I

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Speaker 4: used to be a player, so I can. Dude, they're

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Speaker 4: not just letting dogs run out there. It's guys that

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Speaker 4: they're paying millions of bucks and they don't want it.

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Speaker 4: They don't want the thing uneven. It's got to be pristine.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna do if a certain somebody like cracks their

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Speaker 4: ankle out there because the field's dude, they are not

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Speaker 4: taking it. Used to be not so much since my

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Speaker 4: they were rented mules. Now they're prize cows. I mean

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Speaker 4: they they like make sure that everything's right for these

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Speaker 4: guys because they don't want to get because they know they're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna get your investment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they know they're gonna get hurt at some point.

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Speaker 4: Just let's not be the ones that do it right.

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Speaker 4: So the field is awesome, man, congrat our. Well, I

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Speaker 4: don't want to let out a count of the back

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Speaker 4: of how far down the totem pole Brownie and I are.

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Speaker 4: But our our offices are right next to the grounds crew.

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Speaker 4: We know the guys like we're right next to the

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Speaker 4: lawnmowers and our offices. So you know, they did a

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Speaker 4: great job. Man, awesome, looks great out it looks awesome.

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Speaker 3: As we said, Phase two of the off season program continues.

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Speaker 1: They were outside today.

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Speaker 3: Elijah Moore got his first day of work in after

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Speaker 3: signing his contract yesterday, so we had him in studio

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Speaker 3: yesterday and uh, now we're going to welcome in his

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Speaker 3: former high school teammate and teammate again, it's Joshua Parmer. Oh,

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Speaker 3: have a seat, I could shake your hand. Thank you

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Speaker 3: for the pleasantries. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Josh How you doing man? Do you look you look good?

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Speaker 4: You're feeling good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get yourself settled there.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the grass fields. You know about two

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Speaker 4: weeks ago, three weeks ago, was cruddy out there. They

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Speaker 4: resaw he oh it looks nice now, yeah, it feels nice. Congratulations, welcome,

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Speaker 4: thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad to be on the show. It's nothing that

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Speaker 6: I have now. This one is like a whole yeah,

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Speaker 6: the whole thing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to we want to kind of square

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Speaker 3: this away right from the jump, you know, being new

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Speaker 3: to Buffalo and everything, because we've.

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Speaker 1: Heard Joshua is preferred. Is that? Are we right on that?

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Speaker 6: Or yeah, you can call me Joshua.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because.

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Speaker 3: It's your name, we'll call you whatever you want to

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Speaker 3: call you. I mean, we've all been called worse things

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Speaker 3: of people for years have gone with just josh So

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Speaker 3: I just want to make sure we get it the

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Speaker 3: get first DIBs, you know.

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Speaker 1: And it was kind of cool.

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Speaker 3: We're talking to Elijah yesterday and he kind of reminded

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Speaker 3: us that, you know, your high school teammates and everything,

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Speaker 3: and how cool is that to kind of be reunited

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Speaker 8: Well, the first time was with Sante Okay Samuel, Sante Samuel,

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Speaker 8: and then now.

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Speaker 4: I was in high school.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh my god. We didn't lose many games and

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Speaker 6: we won States twice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's got to be like a cool reunion.

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Speaker 3: You walk in the locker room, you're like oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Last time I played with you we were teenagers. Is

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Speaker 6: Where does it's?

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Speaker 8: It's cool and it's it makes I think it helps

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Speaker 8: us her more comfortable. Yeah, in a new place or

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Speaker 8: in the new environment. But we've we've been with each other,

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Speaker 8: so at least we know each other, you know. But

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Speaker 8: I'm learning all the guys and getting to know all

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Speaker 8: the guys and everyone's pretty cool and funny and uh,

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Speaker 8: slowly memorizing all the names just because it's a little,

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Speaker 8: it's a lot, but I know Elijah, so yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Promise, I promise you. The weather is does get nice

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Speaker 4: and it's it's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Those guy's for Brampton, Ontario. But he knows about long

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Speaker 3: wind takes a minute.

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Speaker 6: I've been feeling it. I've been feeling glimpses of the

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Speaker 6: sun coming out.

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Speaker 4: And this is fake spring number five.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, fake spring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you think it's you think you're done. I think

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Speaker 3: you're done, and then you get a crummy day. He's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, keeps on your ton we.

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Speaker 4: Spent how are the conversations and nearly going with the bills,

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Speaker 4: when when did it takes shape and give you your

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Speaker 4: thoughts about the process and now today when you were

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Speaker 8: The field before joining the Bill, I didn't know I

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Speaker 8: was joining to the I didn't know I was joining

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Speaker 8: the Bills until I signed, really well, until the news

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: I know you've already comment I did that.

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Speaker 3: It almost feels like a homecoming of sorts being a Brampton,

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Speaker 3: Ontario native. I know you eventually went to play high

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Speaker 3: school in South Florida, but your formative years or just

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Speaker 3: feeling does that give you being this close to home

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Speaker 6: It's it's nice.

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Speaker 8: The thing was, even though I was in California, I

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Speaker 8: never really felt far from home because I made California

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Speaker 8: my home, and then my parents also came and visited

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Speaker 8: me a lot. I had a lot of family that

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Speaker 8: always came. There's probably like maybe two weeks that I

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Speaker 6: Family at a game.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so it wasn't like I was I didn't have

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Speaker 6: They don't have to get there.

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Speaker 3: They're probably happier, Yeah, they are because they're commute. Is

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Speaker 3: a lot easier to get to games now.

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Speaker 8: Right, right, So it's a lot easier for them. So

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Speaker 8: that makes it nice.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Give us some idea of what it's been like in

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Speaker 4: I know guys are inting out. It's voluntary, so some

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Speaker 4: How you found it, you know, the locker room, the vibe, everything.

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Speaker 6: I enjoy it. I enjoy it.

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Speaker 8: It's a good vibe. All the guys are close with

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Speaker 8: each other. I'm seeing that and noticing that. You know,

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Speaker 8: Monday through Thursday we're working and we're meeting, working out,

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Speaker 8: I like the schedule, and it gives me time to

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Speaker 8: just getting used to everything and I'll get settled in

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm enjoying it.

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Speaker 3: I know Coach Brady is probably shared with you already.

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Speaker 3: This whole mantra of everybody eats. You know, you've you

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Speaker 3: come from a place where just a few years ago,

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Speaker 3: receiver position. It was Keenan Allen, you know, and then

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Speaker 3: everybody else after that. And we understand why we respect

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Speaker 3: Keenan Allen's game. Here it doesn't play that way like

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Speaker 3: it truly is everybody eat. Josh is throwing of the

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Speaker 3: guy that's open. Is that a philosophical shift for you

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Speaker 3: mentally knowing you know, you have coaches tell you all

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Speaker 3: it's democratic, Like it's truly democratic here, you could very

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Speaker 3: well get the ball on every single play. How does

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Speaker 3: that shift your mindset if at all?

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Speaker 8: It doesn't shift my mindset as a receiver because I

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Speaker 8: run every route to win, right, So yeah, I run

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Speaker 8: every route to win. So if it comes, if it

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Speaker 8: even better because I know I'm running my oute to

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Speaker 8: get somebody else open. And if this whole mantras everybody eats,

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Speaker 8: then if I run a great route to pull the coverage,

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Speaker 8: Even when you don't get the ball, you still eat

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Speaker 8: because you're doing something to effect the whole the team.

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Speaker 4: However, you enjoyed. How did you find your time? I

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Speaker 4: West Coast with California and your family. Was there a lot.

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Speaker 4: You finally got acclimated, had a head coaching change. How

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Speaker 4: did you find that? I mean, give us a little

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Speaker 4: synopsis about how you felt about your pro career so far.

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Speaker 4: You've had really productive seasons.

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Speaker 8: I've just been getting better every year. I feel like

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Speaker 8: my first three year there were Keenan and Mike and

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Speaker 8: my receiver coach out there. I was able to find

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Speaker 8: my game and figure out what works and doesn't work.

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Speaker 8: And I had the time to do that and be

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Speaker 8: patient with that because I was still with Keenan and Mike.

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Speaker 8: Then I got into my second, second, and third year

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Speaker 8: and then everything started to take shape. Last year was

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Speaker 8: what it was, and then now I'm here just ready

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Speaker 6: How more of a refiner receiver I am.

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Speaker 3: I know that you hooped it up a little bit

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Speaker 3: when you were growing up, you know, in Ontario, and

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Speaker 3: as r J. Parrot who plays for the Raptors. Now,

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Speaker 3: did you grow up watching Tracy McGrady with the Raptors

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Speaker 6: The culture here is great.

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: What have your given? What has your give and take

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Speaker 3: Got to know your body language just the same way exactly. Hey,

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Speaker 3: when I see Joshua would do this, I know he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well listen, Josh, We thank you for popping in

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Speaker 3: on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you.

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Speaker 3: A good conversation there with Joshua Palmer. If you missed it,

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Speaker 1: So we'll see where it goes.

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Speaker 3: I'm not anticipating Amari Cooper coming back here, especially since

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Speaker 4: Be shocking, no question. If he wants to play, somebody's

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Speaker 3: with the Bengals last year in free agency. My question

443
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Speaker 3: is they're getting this guy to take a pay cut.

444
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Speaker 3: Are they trying to clear some cap space to get

445
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Speaker 3: the long term deal done with Trey Hendrickson?

446
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Speaker 4: Maybe if that's what that's what I thought of what

447
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,400
Speaker 4: I saw. Yeah, and it makes some sense. But I'll

448
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Speaker 4: say this, if they're signing Trey Hendrickson to a long

449
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Speaker 4: term deal giving him the money he's purported to be

450
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Speaker 4: asking for, which is up up high twenties thirty, right, yeah,

451
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Speaker 4: that may be the most top heavy row to an

452
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Speaker 4: all of football in history.

453
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Speaker 3: Well, if that deal gets done, it will be because

454
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Speaker 3: it's going to be Burrow, Chase Higgins, and Hendrickson and

455
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Speaker 3: then everybody else is making League of minimum pretty much.

456
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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean that's yeah, it's going to be

457
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Speaker 4: a hierarchy, no question, and that if you want to

458
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Speaker 4: do it that way, that's fine. But that's that's something.

459
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And i mean, look, he's only helping him out

460
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Speaker 3: a million and a half dollars. Is that what they

461
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Speaker 3: needed to push the Hendrickson deal over the finish line?

462
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Speaker 3: Probably not. They probably need to do a little more.

463
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I'm just.

464
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Speaker 1: Wondering maybe they've done a lot of that work already.

465
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Speaker 3: Is this the final straw you know that had to

466
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Speaker 3: be taken care of to clear enough cats?

467
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Speaker 1: Maybe get it done.

468
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Speaker 4: It also, maybe just be the margin of error too,

469
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Speaker 4: I mean one point five is was faced. It's less

470
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Speaker 4: than a percentage of the salary cap.

471
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Speaker 1: I mean maybe they needed it for their rookie pool.

472
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Speaker 4: Right you pool, or they might need it just for

473
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Speaker 4: working capital, just to make sure they got the money right,

474
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Speaker 4: so you got to sign undrafted rookie free agents. I

475
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Speaker 4: mean that's both ends of the spectrum there. I mean rookie,

476
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Speaker 4: undrafted rookie free agency, Trey Hendrickson couldn't be further apart.

477
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Speaker 4: But I think it's probably just getting their books aligned

478
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Speaker 4: so that they can either just move forward.

479
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Speaker 3: ESPN spoke with a number of college coaches who remained

480
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Speaker 3: anonymous for their honest take on why Shadua Sanders fell

481
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Speaker 3: all the way to the fifth round in the twenty

482
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Speaker 3: twenty five NFL Draft when Cleveland finally selected him by

483
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Speaker 3: trading up for him. A defensive coordinator who faced Sanders

484
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Speaker 3: as a college coach that he wasn't surprised by the

485
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Speaker 3: hesitancy that teams had in passing on him, saying, quote,

486
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Speaker 3: I thought he'd fall, but not like this.

487
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Speaker 1: A Big twelve coach said, I was shocked.

488
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Speaker 3: You never know what the interview process is and how

489
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Speaker 3: that went. I thought besides cam Ward, he was the

490
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Speaker 3: second best quarterback. Others noted that if teams weren't drafting

491
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Speaker 3: Sanders as a clear cut starter based on ability that

492
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Speaker 3: couldn't be bypassed, they had to assess how he would

493
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Speaker 3: fit into a quarterback room that they had an established starter.

494
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Speaker 3: I thought this was the most telling quote Steve quote.

495
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Speaker 3: The NFL teams probably figure once it gets to this point,

496
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Speaker 3: is it even worth dealing with anymore? But there's no

497
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Speaker 3: way around that. A Big twelve coach said, if you're

498
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Speaker 3: not drafting the guy to be your starter, really doesn't

499
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Speaker 3: matter where you pick the guy. One group of five

500
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Speaker 3: college coach added, if you're Tampa and you have Baker Mayfield,

501
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Speaker 3: do you want the noise associated with Shador Sanders being

502
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Speaker 3: your backup quarterback. There's a lot of teams that don't

503
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Speaker 3: want that kind of noise distracting the rest of the club. Like,

504
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Speaker 3: you're trying to win football games and you got people

505
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Speaker 3: clamoring for putting Sanders in the game if you have

506
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Speaker 3: two bad weeks.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this too. I have heard a number of quarterbacks,

508
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Speaker 4: former really great quarterbacks say that, you know they've watched

509
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Speaker 4: some of this go on with how quarterback rooms are going.

510
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Speaker 4: For instance, I'll give you when when Tim Tebow got

511
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Speaker 4: drafted by the Broncos, they had I don't know who

512
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Speaker 4: it was they had. Then t Bow was in and

513
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 4: out with him and there was a lot of attention

514
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 4: given to or in any situation where there's a lot

515
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 4: of attention given to the backup quarterback, starting quarterbacks don't

516
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Speaker 4: need that. If you're trying to get a starting quarterback

517
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Speaker 4: ready to play, your backup quarterback better be there helping him,

518
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 4: not doing media interviews and given the starting quarterback something

519
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 4: to answer the media about. The last thing a starting

520
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 4: or a great quarterback needs or wants is a celebrity

521
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Speaker 4: trying to help him get ready for the for the game.

522
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Speaker 3: And I think Shador Sanders' celebrity was a turnoff for

523
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Speaker 3: some NFL clubs like we just I don't want to

524
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Speaker 3: deal with that drama. Like I like him as a prospect,

525
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Speaker 3: probably not to start right away, but maybe in a

526
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Speaker 3: few years and him just being in the building is

527
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Speaker 3: going to be polarizing.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to have to deal with that.

529
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Speaker 4: You've got a guy that's incubating, getting ready to be

530
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Speaker 4: your starter. It needs to be done quietly. I don't

531
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Speaker 4: want to. You know, it really does, I mean, you got,

532
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Speaker 4: it's happened. It doesn't happen very much because of this,

533
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Speaker 4: but it has happened in the past, right and it

534
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Speaker 4: you know, I remember Roger Staubach getting into a fist

535
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Speaker 4: fight with Luke Longley, you know, Chuck long Chuck No, no, no,

536
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Speaker 4: the kid that came in on Thanksgiving Day back in

537
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Speaker 4: nineteen seventies and won the Thanksgiving Day game for the

538
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Speaker 4: Cowboys when Starbach had to come out and it was

539
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 4: and they ended up getting to a fist fight. Things

540
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 4: like that happened, mean you get. You know, it's rough.

541
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Speaker 4: It's rough. So it rarely happens because starting quarterbacks have

542
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Speaker 4: a say and they don't want to deal with it.

543
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 4: And if the quarterback doesn't want to deal with it,

544
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 4: the coaching staff doesn't want to deal with a starting

545
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Speaker 4: quarterback who's unhappy. So yeah, I can see this stuff

546
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Speaker 4: about should or Sanders getting out and plus you know,

547
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Speaker 4: bringing him in if he's not going to be the guy,

548
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 4: a top flight, top draft pick, and it becomes a problem,

549
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 4: then becomes a problem, becomes a presence and a voice,

550
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Speaker 4: and somebody doing interviews off the side while everybody else

551
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: is trying to get ready for the game. And if

552
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Speaker 4: and I'm not saying it would happen, but it could happen,

553
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Speaker 4: and it's more likely to happen that he says something

554
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 4: to the media and now everybody in their locker room's

555
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 4: got it. Now they've got to go around and talk

556
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 4: to everybody in the locker room, say, hey, what'd you

557
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 4: say about what Shoulder said? What do you think? What

558
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 4: do you think? What do you think? Happens in New

559
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: York constantly, and it's hard to get around that when

560
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 4: you're trying to get ready for a game. And you

561
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 4: got this this story because if some guy said something

562
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 4: that was a little bit out of whack, and now

563
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Speaker 4: the media's got to go around find out what everybody

564
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Speaker 4: in the locker room thinks about it, it's a huge

565
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Speaker 4: distraction and it's just something nobody needs. That's kind of

566
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Speaker 4: what it looked like. Yeah, Clint Longley, Clint Longley, I

567
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Speaker 4: apologize you were.

568
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 3: Clinton were referencing the seven foot two center for the

569
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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls while Australian basketball player Luke Longley

570
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Speaker 3: Clint Longley.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you knew what I was talking.

572
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Speaker 3: I had to look it up because I couldn't remember

573
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Speaker 3: the guys. I knew it wasn't Luke.

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Speaker 4: It was forty plus years ago, so it cut me

575
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Speaker 4: some slotes.

576
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Speaker 1: No, that's I'm not faulting at all. That's I just

577
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: knew it wasn't.

578
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Speaker 4: And it was. Clint Longley came in on a Thanksgiving

579
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Speaker 4: Day game because Dallas always plays on Thanksgiving, even back then,

580
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 4: and he threw like three touchdowns or something. He just

581
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: blew it up. So then he became this thing. Yeah,

582
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 4: and he started to act like this thing, and Word

583
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: had it back and Roger beat the stew out of him. Yeah.

584
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Speaker 4: So Roger was a Navy guy, so he didn't have

585
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 4: he wasn't one to be.

586
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: Hard and fast results and no excuses.

587
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Speaker 4: And it was you know, so that's a learning thing

588
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 4: for a lot of teams. So it does happen. So

589
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 4: I all, this is interesting, and it does. It does

590
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 4: point to some uh you know, a league wide hesitancy

591
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 4: for bringing in a celebrity backup quarterback or a late

592
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 4: round draft pick, a guy who's not going to be

593
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 4: the guy who's going to be in front of the

594
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 4: media anyway, because he's the number one pick of your draft.

595
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 4: You don't want that. I get it. I get it.

596
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean it's right to be a dude.

597
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: I know it isn't.

598
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: It says something to me that a team, especially around

599
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: the draft, the number one priority is making your team better.

600
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Speaker 3: And to see that as such a detractor, even if

601
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: the talent of the player might make your team better,

602
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: is that's that's saying something.

603
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Speaker 4: I go on and on about it. And because I'm I,

604
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: I was on an all time team. Man, it's just

605
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 4: a great bunch of we to this day we all text,

606
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: we're buddies and we keep look out for each other.

607
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: So it was, you know, it's a special group. So

608
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 4: I I come at it from that angle. So you

609
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 4: can you can throw away what I say or not.

610
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: But it's the ultimate team sport. It is like no

611
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: other team sport, no other hoops, hockey name it. I

612
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 4: can't speak to lacrosse, but it is unlike any other

613
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: team sport.

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Speaker 3: Right, And I don't think teams are concerned about controlling

615
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: their locker room with Shador in the building there. They

616
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: want to control the outside forces like the media and

617
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: the public narrative and all of that. And that's harder

618
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: to do yes with the person with that kind of personality.

619
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Speaker 4: And you don't want to exhaust your players during the

620
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Speaker 4: week by having to deal with stuff that has nothing

621
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Speaker 4: to do with the games. It's exhausting, it's tedious, and

622
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: it poisoned. I don't say poison because that makes it

623
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 4: seem like, you know, it's drags every it's a drag.

624
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 4: It's just a drag, and nobody can Nobody can have

625
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: fun while this drag's going on, you know what I

626
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 4: mean saying you have this thing hanging over you. Nobody

627
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: can have fun and joke around. Get get, have buddies,

628
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: have a few pops, let's go out and have some No,

629
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Speaker 4: it's like, oh no, I got it. You know.

630
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: Yep.

631
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Speaker 4: It's a it's a sport that demands that you be

632
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 4: all in, whether you like it or not. You're gonna

633
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: get beat up, and you've got to bring some emotional

634
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 4: content to it. You got to be undistracted. You got

635
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 4: to be willing on every level. And that's the kind

636
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 4: of thing that SAPs that a way, and it's it's

637
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 4: a it's a tangible, real thing.

638
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Speaker 3: So that is around the NFL presented by a lot

639
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Speaker 3: of health. Topic of discussion for you today concerns the

640
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: Bills receiver room. We've had three of the receivers on

641
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: this roster here in studio over the last two days,

642
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: so we thought it only appropriate to ask you what

643
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: will be the biggest difference with the Bills wide receiving

644
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: group this season compared to last season. Obviously, every year

645
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: is different, the makeup of this group is different. How

646
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 3: do you think it will change what the wide receiver

647
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 3: group is this season in comparison to last season? Eight

648
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Speaker 3: oh three oh five point fifty one eight eight eight

649
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Speaker 3: five fifty two, five fifty Those are the numbers to

650
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Speaker 3: join us, and we do have open lines for you.

651
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Speaker 3: Don't have time to give us a call, no problem,

652
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: you can hit us up on the tweet sheet.

653
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Speaker 1: At one Bill's Live.

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00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: But let's go to the phones, and waiting there for

655
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Speaker 3: us is Butch on the east side.

656
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Speaker 1: What's up, Butch?

657
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 5: My brother's good to talk to you.

658
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Speaker 9: Guys.

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Speaker 5: I love them as g love the WG on to

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Speaker 5: all the fans you listen and watch, I definitely love you.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get right into it as a couple of games

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Speaker 5: and then say something too briefly. I'm gonna touch on

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Speaker 5: that last subject edition is talking about the Cleveland Brown situation.

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Speaker 5: My thing is I can courver both of what you

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Speaker 5: guys are saying. It's just that, unfortunately, the media is

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Speaker 5: going to be the media. The media is gonna start stories,

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Speaker 5: and stories is going to affect the person who's really

668
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Speaker 5: trying to play the game that they grew up to

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Speaker 5: like to play. Unfortunately, in his kid's situation, his father's

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Speaker 5: who he was, who was raised the way he was raised,

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Speaker 5: and he is where he is, and he's gonna follow

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Speaker 5: and regardless at Cleveland, whether it's Buffalo, etcetera, etcetera. I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna put that on the shelf. Secondly, I want to

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Speaker 5: touch base on something you guys talked about yesterday. You

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Speaker 5: had a lot of guests, so I kind of hung up.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to talk about the Jordan Palmer situation real fast.

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen was drafted out of Westconsin I mean out

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Speaker 5: of out of Wyoming. As we already know, he was wraw.

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Speaker 5: Nobody really wanted, but Brandon being in media, a couple

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Speaker 5: of people people want anybody wanted. Even later on in

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Speaker 5: the draft, Brandon took a swing. Josh was raw. Even

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Speaker 5: though Brian David was the first type office of coordinator

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Speaker 5: here at that time. George Palmer got with Josh Allen

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Speaker 5: after his rookie year, in his second year and really

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Speaker 5: developed this kid the seed, the game, to believeing in talents,

686
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Speaker 5: et cetera. When he came back to Buffalo, he was

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Speaker 5: a whole different creature. So I'm gonna give Jordan Palmer

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Speaker 5: a lot of credit of what Josh Allen is doing

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Speaker 5: now because Josh has got his compass. Go put that

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Speaker 5: on the show. Let's get this wide receiver room. I

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Speaker 5: was just telling my guy who was just answered the phone.

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Speaker 5: I got my good friend that this is the best

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Speaker 5: wide receiver room in Brandon Bean's regime, and without without

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Speaker 5: the big name. When you're talking about the big name now,

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Speaker 5: it's so much talent that this this this training camp,

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Speaker 5: you might see a Curtis, see him get cut. I'm

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Speaker 5: just gonna be honest with you. Uh, he has a

698
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Speaker 5: lot of the practice squad, the receivers just for me

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Speaker 5: to practice squad is could be starting to other teams.

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Speaker 5: You got the kid, the undrafted free out of Mississippi State,

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Speaker 5: undrafted undrafted free free agent out the bailor you got

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Speaker 5: the receiver we drafted from Maryland to seventh Brown. You

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Speaker 5: already got. You got more, You got uh, you got

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Speaker 5: a couple, You got so many guys along with Kincaid,

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Speaker 5: along with along with not It's so much talent and

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Speaker 5: it's only one football. And the thing about it is,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to hear no more from the fans,

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Speaker 5: no one else regarding wide receivers this season, because this

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Speaker 5: is the most talented. This is the most strongest wide

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Speaker 5: receiver receiving room that we've had here. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 5: back since and I'm gonna be I might be exaggerating,

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Speaker 5: but I'm gonna go back with Seve and Bed and

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Speaker 5: lost In and Read and he had all those other

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Speaker 5: guys here, we haven't had a strong wide receivering room.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about all the way across the board. We

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Speaker 5: are're gonna be competing one another. So don't be surprised

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Speaker 5: when the fifty three is made that you see some

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Speaker 5: veteran players got cut and he was like, Wow, didn't

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Speaker 5: we just sign this guy? Or wasn't he on the

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Speaker 5: team last year? Don't be surprised. But I love you guys,

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Speaker 5: man each one, to each one, I love you guys,

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Speaker 5: my brothers, and thanks so much for taking football.

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Speaker 1: Interesting take.

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Speaker 3: Butch, I find it hard to believe that Samuel is

725
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Speaker 3: going to be pushed off this roster only because right now,

726
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Speaker 3: as his contract is constructed, he would cost more to

727
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Speaker 3: move off the roster than to be on the roster.

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Speaker 3: I realized that that hit may not take place right

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Speaker 3: away because we're past you in first, but he would

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Speaker 3: be He's a little over nine and a half million

731
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Speaker 3: to be on the roster, twelve million if you move

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Speaker 3: him off. That's the dead cap hit. I just don't

733
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Speaker 3: think that money works. The Bills just got out from

734
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Speaker 3: under stomaching the thirty one million dollar cap hit they

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Speaker 3: got from trading Stefan Diggs. I can't see them taking

736
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Speaker 3: on a twelve million dollar hit to not have Curtis

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Speaker 3: Samuel play for them. So wherever he falls in the

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Speaker 3: pecking order, hopefully he's somewhere in the top five or six,

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Speaker 3: and you don't have to cross that bridge because there

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Speaker 3: isn't a good financial answer to that situation.

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Speaker 1: If you deem him not worthy of a roster spot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the only way Curtis Samuel doesn't get on this

743
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Speaker 4: team really is if he's hurt right, which may be

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Speaker 4: a real possibility. I don't know. He struggled with it

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Speaker 4: all last year. I mean, he never got right.

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Speaker 1: It was a couple of different injuries.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he may be. He may be, you know, too

748
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Speaker 4: fragile to save. But that's the reason this team doesn't

749
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Speaker 4: give out three year contracts to guys they don't have

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Speaker 4: faith in. And he is a good player. He's got

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Speaker 4: good wheels, he's fast even by NFL standards, and a

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Speaker 4: bunch of different Yeah, and he's versatile. So yes, I

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Speaker 4: get it. It's easy for Bill's fans say, ah, he's

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Speaker 4: and kind of sour on him, particularly when he got

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Speaker 4: shiny new pieces like Josh Joshua Palmer and Elijah Moore

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Speaker 4: on the roster. You think, okay, now we you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of done with this guy that didn't really

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Speaker 4: help us last year. Don't think like that. He's he's

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Speaker 4: got it going on. He's a good player. And I

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Speaker 4: think when you're talking about this wide receiver cr I

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Speaker 4: in some ways I agree with Butcher, not about the

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Speaker 4: nineties guys. I mean, he had one of the fastest

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Speaker 4: guys in the league and Don Beebe, and he had

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Speaker 4: two Hall of Famers on the field, So kind of

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Speaker 4: hard to put these guys in that category. But I

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Speaker 4: get it. I get the point. It is a good room,

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Speaker 4: very good room.

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Speaker 3: Because even the early two thousand bills that had bled

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Speaker 3: so with molds and peerless price.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh Reied was your three. I mean that I

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Speaker 1: don't true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that that three probably isn't as good as

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Speaker 3: the collection of maybe the top three here they're one

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Speaker 3: and two. We're probably more productive because you're talking about

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Speaker 3: two guys that each had over eighty catches in two

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Speaker 3: thousand and two when they were throwing it all over

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Speaker 3: the yard. So from a production standpoint, it was very

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Speaker 3: There was a very strict pecking order there. There isn't now.

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Speaker 3: But I think Butch's point is well taken. In terms

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Speaker 3: of front to back, everybody in this top five or

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Speaker 3: six is a good to very good player.

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Speaker 1: Some are still on the ascent.

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Speaker 4: Some you know what they are So it's a little

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Speaker 4: bit tough too, because it's different offensive philosophy here at

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Speaker 4: this point in history, with this particular team, they don't

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Speaker 4: have a pecking order.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody that makes.

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Speaker 4: It hard to assess how good they are or not

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Speaker 4: are in comparison to those guys in O two or

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Speaker 4: in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Tom on the West Side next. What's

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Speaker 1: up Tom?

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, go alhad we all survived single demiele.

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 9: First, I gotta say I think Judy somebody got her

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Speaker 9: Maxwell harriston Jersey for Mother's Day, Happy Yesterday around on defense? Yeah,

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Speaker 9: but but I called the offensive room last year and

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Speaker 9: out of the six I got five, right, So I'm

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Speaker 9: gonna tell you it's gonna be Shakir Coleman, Palmer Moore,

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Speaker 9: and Curtis Samuel. That's five. Now the sixth is gonna

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Speaker 9: be the dark horse. We don't know who that's gonna

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Speaker 9: be yet. But the reason I'm calling is because in

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Speaker 9: the day we turned Gwn Parker, who was a tight

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Speaker 9: end into a tackle. So is it possible that we

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Speaker 9: could take one of our extra tackles that we got

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Speaker 9: that We're always saying we're overloaded and turn them into

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Speaker 9: a tight end. Yeah, maybe maybe that rugby player, or

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Speaker 9: maybe maybe Anderson. Yeah, and talk about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that Glenn Parker was never a

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Speaker 4: tight end. I don't know who you're talking.

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Speaker 1: Might be confusing him with Jason Peter.

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Speaker 3: Might be j Jason Peters was a tight end who

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Speaker 3: became a tackle and probably one of the best tackles

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Speaker 3: in the last quarter century. But I think if they

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Speaker 3: transitioned some of these tackles, they will move to guard.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's the international pathway player Travis Clayton, who was

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Speaker 3: a seventh rounder last year, spent the whole year on

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Speaker 3: ir Maybe he comes back and they say, you know what,

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Speaker 3: let's slide him into because he has the athleticism and

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Speaker 3: the bend to do that being a former rugby player,

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Speaker 3: whereas Chase Lunt, their sixth round pick, who's six 's eight,

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Speaker 3: may not be able to bend as well and is

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Speaker 3: better off on the edge, you know, where we can

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Speaker 3: take advantage of his length and something like that. And look,

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Speaker 3: coach Kromer Across trains a lot of those linemen anyway,

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Speaker 3: all just about every one of them gets reps at

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Speaker 3: two positions, whether it's center and guard or guard and tackle,

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Speaker 3: So I think that's more likely than a move to

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Speaker 3: tight end per se, and the way they utilize Alec Anderson,

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Speaker 3: it's like a blocking tight end anyway, is the sixth

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jackson Hawes might be the answer to Alec Anderson

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Speaker 4: because he's a true tight end, because he's a true

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Speaker 4: tight end and a little bit more nifty in the

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Speaker 4: pass routes and it's just better able to do that.

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Speaker 4: So it might be more of tight end acting like

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Speaker 4: a swing offensive lineman than an offensive lineman acting like

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Speaker 4: a third tight end. Yeah, well, we'll see. And as

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Speaker 4: for your pecking order, maybe, he said Shakir Coleman, Samuel

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Speaker 4: more More, and Palmer.

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Speaker 3: So that leaves Leviska, Shenault's, the wild cards, and a

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Speaker 3: bunch of young players all vying for what amounts to

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Speaker 3: one spot, which is going to make for a pretty

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Speaker 3: heavy competition. Uh, going into training camp. We have to

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Speaker 3: take a break here, but more of your phone calls

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Speaker 3: when we come back. What will be the biggest difference

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Speaker 3: with the Bills wide receiving group this season compared to last.

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Speaker 3: Alex and Charlotte can lead us off when we return

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Speaker 1: So it's almost like a feeder program.

875
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, some way. It gives people an introduction to it,

876
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 4: gets the kids acclimated to it, and you know, and

877
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 4: they just keep on with it. And so it's good.

878
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 4: It's been good for our sport as well as the

879
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 4: flag football sport in and of itself. So it's it's

880
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 4: been a huge plus. And it, like you said, it's

881
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 4: like wild.

882
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: It's great an Olympic sport.

883
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's too bad that. I mean, American

884
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 4: football is never going to be an Olympic sport because

885
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 4: we're the only country that plays it. And so that's

886
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 4: is what it is. But flag football, let's go tee

887
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 4: it up.

888
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 3: What will be the biggest difference with the Bills wide

889
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 3: receiver group this season compared to last season? You let

890
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: us know at eight o three, five fifty and we

891
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 3: go back to the phones, and as promised to Alex

892
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: in Charlotte, what's up Alex?

893
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

894
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 5: If you're doing well today.

895
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 10: Hey, so I've been listening for the last few weeks

896
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 10: on the replays, hadn't been able to call in I

897
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 10: wanted to say, you know, you guys have asked a

898
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 10: lot of thoughts on the draft. I thought the draft

899
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 10: was amazing. I'm glad we went heavy defense. If you

900
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 10: watched the team last year, I third down, we couldn't

901
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 10: get anyone off the field. It was it was awesome

902
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 10: to see being put that time and effort. I also

903
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 10: heard a lot of people saying that they wanted a

904
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 10: wide receiver. Personally, I thought it was a bad draft

905
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 10: for it. And Steve you said over and over again,

906
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 10: this is a hard roster to make, and I did

907
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 10: not see a rookie wide receiver in this class who

908
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 10: was going to come in and make this roster easily.

909
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 10: If they would have, would have just been because they

910
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 10: were a high pick and we didn't want to cut them.

911
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 10: But to answer your question of the day, I love

912
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 10: this wide receiver room. I think we're very diverse. I

913
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 10: think we're lending ourselves to positionless offense. You're gonna have

914
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 10: guys lined up all over the field who have overlapping

915
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 10: skill sets. You're not going to know what routes they're running,

916
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 10: where they're going to end up. And these guys can

917
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 10: also separate. I know Curtis Samuel was hurt last year,

918
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 10: but he's a separator. Palmer's a separator. I think Keon's

919
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 10: going to make a jump, and I think Elijah Moore

920
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 10: is going to be a very sneaky signing. I see

921
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 10: him making the roster and I see him being a

922
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 10: big part of what we do this year. So overall,

923
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 10: I'm a real fan of this roster being put together.

924
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 10: We say in being we trust for a reason, and

925
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 10: he's shown it to us again. Thank you guys for

926
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 10: your time.

927
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure thing. I mean Moore is a separator too.

928
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: And for those that don't know Moore's skill set very well,

929
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: they're going to look at him, you know, at five eight,

930
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty pounds and assume he's a slot

931
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 3: only and he is not. He lined up outside quite

932
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: a bit for the Browns, less so for the Jets,

933
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: you know, and made plays out there. So I think,

934
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: knowing that Joe Brady as a coordinator demands that the

935
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: receivers learn all the positions within the scope of the offense,

936
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: you have to recruit diverse talents to the roster. You

937
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: can't just go get a guy that can only play X.

938
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: I mean even Keon Coleman lined up in the slot

939
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: a good deal in college at Florida State. So you

940
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 3: need versatile skill sets to have the wide ranging ability

941
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 3: to line people up across the front. And I think

942
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: we've said this before, Steve, but it's a philosophical shift here.

943
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: They don't want I don't think they want a true

944
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: number one wide receiver. If they could have a player

945
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: grow into that and be that kind of a talent,

946
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: I don't think they'd say no to it. But the

947
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: point I'm trying to make is I think they genuinely

948
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 3: believe if they are good to very good across the

949
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 3: board in their receiving corps, they are a harder team

950
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: to defend because you can't key on any one person

951
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 3: and feel like you have dramatically impeded the Bills passing game.

952
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, nobody's gonna turn their knows up at Let's

953
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 4: just let's just take ourselves down this rabbit hole for

954
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 4: just two seconds. So say Keon comes out and he's

955
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 4: a monster this year, right, takes a big step forward,

956
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: stays healthy on the field, blossoms into everything. It's because

957
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 4: here's what happens, is you get to that point because

958
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 4: you grow into it all of a sudden. Keon's always

959
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: open and Josh throws him the ball. It's all good

960
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 4: when it works, no problem. But if you flip that

961
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 4: around and think, okay, what a defense to see. They're

962
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 4: gonna see Keon and guys right now when they drop

963
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 4: it's different mindset defensively, when they drop back and they say, Okay,

964
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 4: here's these guys who we got to defend all of them. Yeah,

965
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: and let's just double team Keon instead of saying, let's

966
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 4: double team Keon, go man under, drop a guy out, whatever,

967
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: because they're gonna go him first. That's in some ways

968
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 4: that plays into the hands of the defense, even though

969
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: Keon would be this great, big monster that to have

970
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 4: a plan for that, that's right. And otherwise, the way

971
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 4: the Bills did it last year was that if they

972
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 4: got in, if this team wanted to play man the

973
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 4: Bills had too many guys on their roster that were

974
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: man beaters, then the other team had corners that could

975
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: cover him up well enough. They might have had one

976
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 4: or two corners, but they didn't have three or four.

977
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: And if you know, and if they did, they certainly

978
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 4: didn't have a linebacker they could stay with James Cook, right,

979
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 4: so they or a tight end. So they just went

980
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 4: so deep and particularly when they think, well, he's never

981
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 4: gonna throw it to the tight end here, He's never

982
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: gonna throw it to the They don't throw it to

983
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 4: the backs as much as we like, and we're just

984
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 4: gonna man up with a backer and you know, drop

985
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 4: it for Detroit. Right, We'll drop a defensive tackle out

986
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: and cover that tight end because he didn't throw it

987
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 4: to That kind of stuff happens. So it presents a

988
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 4: very different array of problems when you've got a team

989
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 4: that will throw it to anybody. Now, having said that,

990
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 4: Brandon Bean's still going to go out and try and

991
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 4: find five guys like Jamar Chase, you know what I mean. Yes,

992
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 4: you're give me five of those guys do the right,

993
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 4: but they don't grow on trees. But you are getting

994
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: a bunch of guys who, you know, Joshua Palmer was

995
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 4: under used in the Chargers office because he had Mike Evans,

996
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 4: Mike Keen, Mike Williams, and Keenan Allen in front of it.

997
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 4: You know, guys like that. Curtis Samuel was in Washington,

998
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 4: which was a cesspool culture wise, for for a minute,

999
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 4: for a long time, he comes out. He you know,

1000
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 4: it's like him spreading his wings. So guys like that,

1001
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 4: Elijah Moore caught balls from like nineteen thousand guys. I

1002
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 4: mean plaid for the Jets and played for the Jets

1003
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 4: and the Browns. I don't I hate to laugh like that.

1004
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 4: But so you get guys who are undervalued on the market,

1005
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 4: and it come in here and in your building, particularly

1006
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: here Anduffalo where you've got a development team that comes

1007
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 4: in alongside these players and says, okay, wait, wait, wait,

1008
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 4: you need to give when to give you this to

1009
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 4: help you flourish. Do this, help, let us help you here,

1010
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: let us give you this and this, and you know what,

1011
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 4: this is a better way for you to try this.

1012
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: And all of a sudden, you got a room full

1013
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 4: of wide receivers playing their best football for your team.

1014
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 4: That's the recipe and that has That's what happened last year,

1015
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: and that's how it came to Fruition last year and

1016
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: they had a record breaking year.

1017
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: Yep.

1018
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: So you tell us what will be the biggest difference

1019
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: with the Bill's wide receiver group this season compared to last.

1020
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: We have to take a break here, but we are

1021
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: wide open for your phone calls in the entire second

1022
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: hour of the show. We'll lead off with Mark and

1023
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 3: Orchard Park and Steve on Asel when we return here

1024
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 3: on One Bill's Live presented by Colida of Health, It's

1025
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1026
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 4: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

1027
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: What will be the biggest difference with the Bills wide

1028
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 3: receiver group this season compared to last? That is the

1029
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 3: question posed to you here on a Tuesday edition of

1030
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: One Bill's Live. Chris Bran Steve Tasker with you. Phone

1031
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 3: lines wide open for the second hour of the show,

1032
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: as we had Joshua Palmer an hour number one. So

1033
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 3: our guest duties are taken care of and accounted for.

1034
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 3: So it's all about you and us the rest of

1035
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: the way here and as promised, we go to Mark

1036
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: in Orchard Park next.

1037
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: What's up? Mark?

1038
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 5: Hey?

1039
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 11: How are you this guy today? I totally agree with

1040
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 11: Chris what you said about you know, Joe Brady and

1041
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 11: you know, hey, you look at this guy. He took over,

1042
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 11: you know, last year, and he didn't have a you know,

1043
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 11: a lot of good tools in the box, but you know,

1044
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 11: his game plans were very good and look what it produced.

1045
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: Now.

1046
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 11: I think we got a better receiver course than last year.

1047
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 11: And going with that, if you know these guys can

1048
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 11: play to what they think their potential is, I think

1049
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 11: it's going to be game on man. To me, this

1050
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 11: reminds me of Tom Brady with a Wes Welker, Julian Edelman,

1051
00:52:54,239 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 11: robkin robkin Kowski, and you know you had Randy Moss

1052
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 11: and there. Yeah he was the big name, but all

1053
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 11: those other guys really nobody, you know, nobody know about him,

1054
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 11: but he made him good.

1055
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, thanks Mark, I would agree. I

1056
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 4: mean this, this group before the season starts, does seem

1057
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 4: to have more.

1058
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 3: Of a.

1059
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 4: More of a resume than the one last year because

1060
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 4: last year, they know they took a step back, supposed to.

1061
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 4: He stirred a lot of al We didn't know about

1062
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 4: mac Hollins. We didn't know he was going to emerge

1063
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 4: and play like he played last year. And let's not

1064
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: forget too, they didn't have Amari Cooper when the season

1065
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 4: began last year. And then you know, got a guy hurt.

1066
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 4: He got two guys hurt in Samuel and Coleman. And

1067
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 4: about the six week mark and Kakaid was hurt. So

1068
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: they were like, man, we got to get some guys.

1069
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 4: So they traded for Cooper to help bolster and give

1070
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: him some numbers and some quality.

1071
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 6: Guys, and he was hurt.

1072
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 4: So, yeah, this room does give you more confidence. But

1073
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 4: let's be honest. The reason where a lot of people

1074
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 4: who have called today have more confidence in this room

1075
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 4: is because of what that crew did last year. I

1076
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 4: mean this with Josh, with this offensive line, with Cook,

1077
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 4: Ty Johnson, Ray Davis, the running game, the type this

1078
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 4: offense did so well last year with a group of

1079
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: guys we didn't know anything about that. You think, wow,

1080
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 4: these guys are Yeah, they weren't even better. That's kind

1081
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 4: of where we're at I think today. And I'm not

1082
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 4: saying that's wrong, but last year's success with a group

1083
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 4: we didn't even know at the time is kind of

1084
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 4: being transposed on.

1085
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 1: The success of this does not guarantee future results.

1086
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 3: Every year, there is a chemistry experiment that has to

1087
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: go on between quarterback and receiving corps, and I think

1088
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 3: Josh over the years has demonstrated an ability to acclimate to,

1089
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 3: you know, the different body language and tendencies of his

1090
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 3: receiving cores pretty well. The receivers have to come through

1091
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: two obviously, so that's an exercise that usually gets ironed

1092
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 3: out through the course of the spring and in training

1093
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 3: camp in the preseason. So hopefully that takes place as

1094
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 3: it has in previous years.

1095
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: I would say that the one quality.

1096
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 3: That has been improved is collective speed in the receiving

1097
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 3: corps because you've got more on this squad now. He

1098
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 3: ran a four to three to two at his Old

1099
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 3: Miss Pro Day in twenty twenty one. He's still only

1100
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: a twenty five year old player. There is speed and

1101
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 3: separation ability there. I know Joshua Palmer did not run

1102
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: a blazing forty time at the Combine a few years ago.

1103
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 3: I believe he plays faster than he runs in a

1104
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: straight line because his route running is so good.

1105
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: So there's another separator.

1106
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: And one of our previous callers felt the same way,

1107
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 3: and Curtis Samuel when he's healthy runs in the four threes.

1108
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: So if he's healthy at the start.

1109
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: Of the season, maybe he makes a greater impact as

1110
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: well in terms of putting more speed on the field.

1111
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: Let's go to Steve on a sale next.

1112
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: What's up, Steve Hey, Steve Hey.

1113
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 12: About the receivers. I mean, I agree with everybody.

1114
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 7: I think this is a better group.

1115
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 12: We don't have to rely on a rookie this year,

1116
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 12: hopefully Samuel is healthy. And you got two guys come

1117
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 12: from teams that didn't win or getting the playoffs, and

1118
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 12: I think they'll do better. But this weekend, the NFL

1119
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 12: network played the top ten games of the year last year,

1120
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 12: and I caught it at about game five in the

1121
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,479
Speaker 12: Bills were in the top three.

1122
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 9: And when you watch the.

1123
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 12: Games back to back, it really became obvious that Josh

1124
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 12: Allen is the best player in the NFL. And the

1125
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 12: other thing is Josh Allen didn't need better receivers. We

1126
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 12: needed a defense that could get the other team off

1127
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 12: the field. So I feel pretty good about drafting defense.

1128
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 12: So much so I even think next year we should

1129
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 12: draft defense. And because I remember like they did the

1130
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 12: Rams game, I mean, I think the Bills run on

1131
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 12: the field on offense like ten or twelve minutes, and

1132
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 12: the commentators kept saying about the Bills defense, this is

1133
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 12: the most open you'll.

1134
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 5: Ever see receivers in the NFL.

1135
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was a combination, Yeah, thanks Steve, There

1136
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: was a combination issues on the defensive side of the ball,

1137
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: and they kind of compounded on top of one another

1138
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 3: because when you can't get consistent pressure on the quarterback

1139
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: rushing just four, which is one of the core principles

1140
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: that this defensive scheme is founded upon, you can't drop

1141
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 3: into coverage. That thereby makes your coverage unit weaker against

1142
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: the pass because now you have to commit more players

1143
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: to your rush to get pressure on the quarterback.

1144
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: That also requires your defensive coordinator.

1145
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 3: To call the defense differently in many cases, making more

1146
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 3: man coverage calls, and he had a group that was

1147
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: not strong in the area of man coverage. So now,

1148
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: in an effort to get more pressure on the pass

1149
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: or you're committing more bodies, you're thereby weakening your back

1150
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 3: end from a coverage standpoint, and that is part of

1151
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 3: the reason why you saw guys running wide open in

1152
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 3: that Rams game, because they were killing them with the

1153
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 3: naked bootleg rollouts by Stafford, which is a staple of

1154
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: that offense. So you could argue they should have been

1155
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 3: more prepared for that. But still, in all, coverage was

1156
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 3: a major issue last year, and I think that's why

1157
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: you saw the investment made both on the front end

1158
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 3: in the in terms of defensive lineman and on the

1159
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 3: back end with two true cornerbacks who can play man

1160
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: coverage as well as zone, along with a hybrid type

1161
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 3: player in Hancock who's going to double as a safety

1162
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 3: slash nickel corner piece for this team. So yeah, going

1163
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 3: heavy on defense in the draft I thought was a

1164
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: very wise move well, irrespective of the receiving corp.

1165
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,959
Speaker 4: The Bills for the last five years and now coming

1166
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 4: into this one too, have played a first place schedule

1167
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 4: every year. One of the things that you get with

1168
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 4: the first place schedule is other first place teams with

1169
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 4: good quarterbacks. Good quarterbacks, if you don't pressure them, they

1170
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 4: carve you up. So the Bills were forced to at

1171
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 4: some point they got to get the ball out and

1172
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 4: he's got to be out. The ball has to come out,

1173
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 4: and to do that, you gotta and to do that,

1174
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 4: the Bills had to send the extra pressure Brown he's

1175
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 4: talking about, and that happened to them on more matchups

1176
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 4: than it would if they had had a fourth play schedule.

1177
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 4: When they were playing teams that had bad quarterback play.

1178
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 4: The Bills were playing Matt Stafford and.

1179
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: Jared goff Lamar Jackson.

1180
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, they played the Crew Mahomes, So that's your defense

1181
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 4: is up against it, and it presents a different set

1182
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 4: of problems with other teams who win games with just

1183
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 4: a guy. You can go back and look at the

1184
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 4: games that the Bills struggled in or that the teams

1185
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,479
Speaker 4: that they really lumped up, and it's it's pretty easy

1186
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 4: to see. You know they you know, Arizona Cardinals out

1187
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 4: of the gate when you don't know who what that

1188
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 4: team is, you know stuff. They scored four touchdowns on

1189
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 4: the Bills. The Bills know exactly who Miami is and

1190
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 4: they beat him by twenty one. Jacksonville struggled. They have

1191
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 4: this young quarterback that they couldn't get it together, beat

1192
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 4: him by They beat him by thirty seven the Ravens game.

1193
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 4: In the Texans game, you got two playoff quarterbacks there

1194
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 4: and they struggled defensively, gave up. But I only give

1195
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 4: up twenty three to the Texans, but they couldn't score.

1196
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 4: So you get this schedule thing, and that has something

1197
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 4: to do with how you have to play your defense.

1198
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 4: If you get a quarterback that can't move or like

1199
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 4: a Matt Stafford, they couldn't get to that guy, he's

1200
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 4: gonna carve him up and he's gonna do it from

1201
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 4: the pocket. And with those receivers they've got. You know,

1202
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 4: the Bills did not match up with them well and

1203
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 4: they you know, they ended up hanging forty two points

1204
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 4: on this team. That sticks with the coaching staff and

1205
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 4: it also it also communicates to their whole team and

1206
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 4: their whole organization. Dude, we got to fix some stuff.

1207
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 3: They were back to back weeks. They gave up over

1208
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 3: forty points on defense. I mean, even if you're playing

1209
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: some of the best offenses in football.

1210
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: It's a lot of points.

1211
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 4: Rams scored four hard to win that one. Rams scored

1212
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 4: forty four and beat the Bills or Detroit scored forty

1213
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 4: two and lost to the Bills. Yeah, that Bills are

1214
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 4: tough out, even with a defense that's struggling to match up.

1215
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 4: But that's it, I mean, Brownie said it. In the

1216
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 4: balance between pass rush and coverage, the Bills had to

1217
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: give you one or the other. They couldn't give you both.

1218
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: Let's go to Bill in Connecticut next. What's up Bill?

1219
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: Hy guys?

1220
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me on. Sure I have something I

1221
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 7: want to put on the shelves. And then talk about

1222
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 7: the receiver room. I was hoping that we'd hear a

1223
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 7: little bit about the Micah Hide Charity softball game, and

1224
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 7: then I heard Steve say that the weekend weather was

1225
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 7: the worst in the history of weekend weather. But maybe

1226
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 7: you'll comment on that, But that's going on the shelf.

1227
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 7: With regard to the receiver room, I have two wishes.

1228
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 7: One is for good health, because I think there's plenty

1229
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 7: of talents, so if they can stay healthy, that'd be great.

1230
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 7: The second is that nobody trying to catch a ball

1231
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 7: gets an unnecessary roughness call from a defensive back in Miami.

1232
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 7: So I'll let you guys react to that.

1233
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that they for the Micah High softball game,

1234
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: which happened over the weekend and certainly goes to good

1235
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 3: causes through Micah Hyde's Foundation. They did move the game

1236
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 3: up to earlier in the day because of the rain

1237
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 3: that was in the forecast, so they did have to

1238
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 3: move the start time, but it went off as it

1239
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 3: always does. A lot of people in attendance despite the

1240
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 3: crummy weather, So yeah, it.

1241
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: Was as successful as it always is.

1242
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 3: So good to see those guys in town and supporting

1243
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 3: MICA's charity as always.

1244
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah, the wide receiver room. You know, if

1245
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 4: they stay healthy, they're a tough group. But that's the

1246
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 4: same with every NFL team. And now you're you're referring

1247
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 4: to Jordan Poyer and his hit on Keon. I didn't

1248
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 4: have a problem with the hit when it happened. I

1249
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 4: can't remember exactly the details. I don't know whether I

1250
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 4: didn't I didn't, it doesn't I don't remember it being late.

1251
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 4: It was over the middle, it was down a sideline

1252
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 4: down the scene.

1253
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 3: There was one over the middle where poor got I'm

1254
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 3: talking about the one in Miami, right, it was over

1255
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 3: the he broke here, caught the ball, Poyer hit him,

1256
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 3: and it was called a defenseless receiver, so it was

1257
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: fifteen yards on top of it. And then you're talking

1258
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 3: about the one here at the end of the game

1259
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 3: when Poyer hit Coleman and.

1260
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 4: Broke back his wrist. Okay, yeah, well there were two.

1261
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 4: Well yeah, and here here's our crew. We're going to

1262
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 4: see it here. This is the one here in Buffalo.

1263
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: It's right at the end of the game.

1264
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he did a fly he got a flag and.

1265
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 3: It was I think it was fourth down too. So

1266
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 3: we got a first down out of that and led

1267
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 3: to the game winning field goal.

1268
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 4: And I didn't think it was an unclean hit, but

1269
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 4: it was right. He caught his arm right across his chest.

1270
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: Now the one on, well, it was helmet to helmet contact.

1271
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I sat, he went high. Yeah, yeah, you're always

1272
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 4: going to get flagged for that.

1273
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 6: But I don't know.

1274
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 4: I'm from a different era. Okay, Yeah, I didn't think

1275
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 4: it was dirty at all. He certainly it was a penalty.

1276
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 4: But man, that's not a dirty play. Uh, he's trying

1277
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 4: to knock it up and knock it off the ball out,

1278
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, I have Okay.

1279
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's go to Tarv on a cell next.

1280
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: What's up Tarvy?

1281
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, Uh, I really enjoy listening to you guys.

1282
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 13: You really, uh make the day.

1283
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 9: Great for me.

1284
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 13: I appreciate that. And uh, I I'm just calling about

1285
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 13: the receiver room.

1286
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 9: Mostly.

1287
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: I really think that Kean.

1288
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 13: Coleman's gotta step up this year. I agree with Steve

1289
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 13: his earlier comments.

1290
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 9: And you know, he's got a.

1291
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 13: Ton of talent, great athlete, you know, great basketball player

1292
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 13: in Michigan State, the whole deal. And I think, you know,

1293
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 13: it's it's it's a non issue as far as not

1294
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 13: having an elite receiver because of Josh. Josh is that good.

1295
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 13: He makes everybody you know so much better and and

1296
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 13: he'll he'll spread the ball around like last year. And

1297
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 13: I think Elijah Moore has some speed for sure, and

1298
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 13: you know I think that I don't. I don't think

1299
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 13: that will be a problem this year. I do think,

1300
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 13: you know, on the defensive side of things, I think

1301
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 13: you know, we've had this time every year in the

1302
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 13: playoffs where teams take advantage of our dvs and and

1303
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 13: the scheme. I think the scheme needs to be tweaked.

1304
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 13: I don't know what your feelings are on that, and

1305
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 13: I really don't know, you know, I'm not an expert

1306
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 13: on that or anything. So I need I need you guys,

1307
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 13: didn't put on that. Now I'll hang up and listen.

1308
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 13: But again, thank you so much for everything you do

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Speaker 13: for the area.

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Speaker 9: Guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no problem to are you're happy to be

1312
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: happy to do it? Yeah?

1313
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Speaker 3: I mean every defensive scheme undergoes tweaks and changes from

1314
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 3: year to year. You cannot stay the same in this league. Ever,

1315
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the core principles remain the

1316
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 3: same in coach mcdermot's defensive scheme, but they do morph

1317
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 3: in change based on what they feel is coming in

1318
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 3: the league from an offensive standpoint, so they're prepared for

1319
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 3: that and have adjust within their scheme. And I also

1320
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 3: think based on the talent that they acquire, they will

1321
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 3: tweak the scheme to play to those players' strengths. Last year,

1322
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: you know, I think Rasewell Douglas, I mean not to

1323
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 3: be not to just pick on one guy, but I

1324
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 3: don't think man coverage is the strength of his game,

1325
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 3: and when they had to play more in band coverage,

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01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: he was at a decided disadvantage in matchups last year,

1327
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 3: and I think it's part of the reason why he's

1328
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 3: not back this year, because I think the defensive staff

1329
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 3: wants to have the confidence that if they have to

1330
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 3: make a man coverage call, they're not crossing their fingers

1331
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 3: and toes hoping it works. They need guys that can

1332
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: execute that way, and I think they feel better equipped

1333
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 3: to do that with the likes of Max Harriston and

1334
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 3: Tredavious White back in the fold, and even Dan Jackson

1335
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 3: I think is a better man coverage players not his specialty.

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Speaker 1: But he's a younger player.

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01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 3: He's more athletic than maybe Rasul Douglas is, who's a

1338
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 3: little high cut and not as good change of direction.

1339
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 3: So I think they feel better equipped to do that.

1340
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 3: I think because of that, you will see some tweaks.

1341
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 4: And changes, nothing major, but it'll be different, right And

1342
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 4: for your first point, yeah, I think there is some

1343
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 4: higher expectations for Keon. People are expecting some bigger things

1344
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 4: on him, to see a tangible step forward in his numbers,

1345
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 4: in his contributions, the timeliness of how they use him,

1346
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 4: a more wide ranging route tree than what they us him.

1347
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 4: They used him on a lot of fade routes. I

1348
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 4: mean the Seattle game was a point case in point

1349
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 4: where they finally started getting down the red zone throwing

1350
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 4: it to him, and he had one that got knocked away.

1351
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 4: In the next one he caught that kind of thing.

1352
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think there's some added expectations on Keon,

1353
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 4: And you're right. One of the reasons they don't need

1354
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 4: a number one receivers because they got the right guy

1355
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 4: playing quarterback. He's he's a monster, and that covers a

1356
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 4: lot of things and allows you to run an offense

1357
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 4: like nobody else can, and they do so they they

1358
01:08:55,680 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 4: do present their own problems. Now defensively, Yeah, I'm not excusing.

1359
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 4: You're right. Every year in the playoffs, you know, the

1360
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 4: Bills come kind of come up short because, like you

1361
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 4: said in the very beginning of your statement, teams take

1362
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 4: advantage of the Bills, dbs or whatever. Yeah, you don't

1363
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 4: meet bad teams in the playoffs. You're gonna if you're

1364
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 4: not gonna go to the super Bowl, somebody's gonna do

1365
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 4: something that you can't. You don't have an answer for.

1366
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 4: That's the way of it. And I'm not excusing anything,

1367
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 4: because sooner or later, the Bill's got to get it done.

1368
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 4: You gotta get it done under any circumstances. You got

1369
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 4: to find a way around a really good team. They

1370
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 4: do that on a case, well, they do it at

1371
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 4: least once every playoffs. They win playoff games every year,

1372
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 4: but they got to win that last one, right, They

1373
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 4: got to keep winning their last game, and they haven't

1374
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 4: been able to do that. So it's always gonna be

1375
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 4: a reason that derails it. And it's always gonna be

1376
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 4: you got to give your fans or whatever either blame

1377
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 4: you for it or give the other team credit for it,

1378
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 4: whichever you want to do. It amounts to the same thing. Wins,

1379
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 4: one team loses. The Bills have to find a way

1380
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 4: to be the team that wins that last game every year.

1381
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 4: They haven't been able to do it yet. But I'm

1382
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 4: you know, it's not that they're it's not that they're

1383
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 4: falling down against an inferior opponent. You got to rise up.

1384
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 4: You got to beat those good teams in those in

1385
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 4: those spots, because that's who's going to be there.

1386
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 1: Let's go to Lyndy in Texas. What's up Lindy.

1387
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 14: Hey, guys, first time caller went. Thank you very much

1388
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 14: for taking my call. Chris Brown. I love your analysis.

1389
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 14: You've changed my mind and how I think about football,

1390
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 14: and mister tasker, I have to thank you for the

1391
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 14: best memories with my brother. You were our favorite player

1392
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 14: when you took the when you took the field, we'd

1393
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 14: hide five and say it's task.

1394
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 9: For time.

1395
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 14: Was popcorn and beer on the floor, two guys dancing around.

1396
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,440
Speaker 14: So when I remember my brother in the best of times.

1397
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 1: That what I That's awesome.

1398
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 5: Thanks great for the bottom of my heart.

1399
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 4: I was going to say you and your brother were

1400
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 4: probably eight years old, but the bear let you out

1401
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 4: of the bag, So yeah, you dated yourself in the

1402
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 4: beer ahead, Thanksndy, go ahead.

1403
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 14: We were actually older, you know, we were older. But

1404
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 14: the whole family, all nine kids, crazy football fans. I

1405
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 14: want to I want to talk about the wide receiver

1406
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 14: question that you guys pose. And last year, you know,

1407
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 14: from the very outset, there was all this talk about

1408
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 14: we need an outside guy, we need a speed guy,

1409
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 14: we have to stretch the corners, and it seems like

1410
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 14: it was a distraction. And then we went out and

1411
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,560
Speaker 14: got Amari Cooper who definitely contributed to the team, and

1412
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 14: you know, the results speak for themselves, you know, with

1413
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 14: the amount of touchdowns we got both running and passing.

1414
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 14: I just think that after last year, we have proven

1415
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 14: we don't need a number one or a number two,

1416
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 14: and I think all of the elements are there in place.

1417
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 14: I think we are not going to have that kind

1418
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 14: of distraction. We are going to be more focused with

1419
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 14: more execution, and I think that from the get go,

1420
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 14: right out the gate, we're going to be having a

1421
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 14: really really strong, strong performance from her offense. So you

1422
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 14: take all that distraction out, it's just gonna be good

1423
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 14: things for the Buffalo Bills. So thank you for taking

1424
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 14: my call. Do good, be good, God bless and go Bills.

1425
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Amen to that, Lindy, Thanks for making me a

1426
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: nice sign off the Yeah.

1427
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 3: Look, I understand why people are bullish on this receiving

1428
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 3: corps over last years.

1429
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Mac Collins was, and I'm not.

1430
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 3: And look, I was more than happy with what MATC

1431
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 3: Collins provided this team last year. But I think most

1432
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 3: people when he got here would have considered him a

1433
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 3: journeyman type player just based on what his previous career

1434
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 3: looked like. And he had like a career year here

1435
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 3: in a Bill's uniform and led the team in receiving

1436
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 3: touchdowns with five and served in other roles as well,

1437
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 3: both on special teams and blocking in the run game.

1438
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 3: For a very rear run game for the Bills, They'll

1439
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 3: need to find somebody to fill those roles, not to

1440
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 3: say that they can't. And then at the same time,

1441
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 3: I think you have players now in this group that

1442
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 3: will help this passing game a little bit Differently. We

1443
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 3: saw a lot of plays Steve last year in the

1444
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,919
Speaker 3: passing game at or near the line.

1445
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: Of scrimmage, particularly early in the season.

1446
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 3: Elijah Moore can unquestionably help in that area in terms

1447
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 3: of being an available option early in the down to

1448
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 3: let you get the ball out and then does offer

1449
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 3: yards after catching elusiveness. And then Palmer, I think, is

1450
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 3: a guy that has to help you in the intermediate

1451
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 3: to deep game and so it's not all on Coleman

1452
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 3: all the time to be that for this offense. I

1453
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 3: think they've multilayered the different things they need from their

1454
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 3: receiving group more and Shakir are kind of multi layered

1455
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 3: in the same way. I think Coleman and Palmer are

1456
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 3: multi layered in the same way, even though their skill

1457
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 3: sets are probably a little different. So it's interesting to

1458
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 3: see them kind of double down in some areas of

1459
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 3: where they need the passing game to flourish.

1460
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 4: Right, And I'll say this too, he's Lindy's kind of

1461
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 4: right too. I kind of do expect him once again

1462
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 4: to get out to a fast start. I don't know

1463
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 4: what the early part of their schedule is going to

1464
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 4: look like. I mean, they may end up with Philly

1465
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 4: Kansas City and find out about it, right, Yeah, you

1466
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 4: might might end up, you know, with a gauntlet there.

1467
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 4: Just in the first month of the season. But I

1468
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 4: agree with him. This team is virtually always at least

1469
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 4: three and one out of the gate. They were I

1470
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 4: think their worst was, like maybe I think it was

1471
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 4: one and three in twenty nineteen or maybe eighteen when

1472
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 4: Josh's rookie year.

1473
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were six and eighteen.

1474
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 4: Right, So I think that's the last time they were

1475
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 4: not three and one out of the gate. In the

1476
01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 4: first month last year they were three and zero. So yeah,

1477
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 4: I would expect him to come out fast, particularly if

1478
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 4: they can get through the preseason healthy. Last year, Curtis

1479
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 4: Samuel was dragging a turf toe for two months and

1480
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 4: then he got hurt of shoulder. Then he got heard again.

1481
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 4: So if you can stay away from stuff like that, yeah,

1482
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 4: this is going to be a team that's going to

1483
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 4: come out and explode on people offensively. That's and he's right.

1484
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty four last year proved Josh is the difference maker.

1485
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 4: Not the wide receiver room.

1486
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 3: Break time for us here, but more of your phone

1487
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 3: calls when we come back, Mark and West Seneca, Chuck

1488
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 3: and Hamburg will lead us off when we return. What

1489
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 3: will be the biggest difference with the Bills wide receiver

1490
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 3: group this season compared to last You tell us at

1491
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 3: eight O three to zero five point fifty one eight

1492
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 3: and eight five fifty two five fifty here on One

1493
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 3: Bill's Live.

1494
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 1: Stay with us all right back here on One Bill's

1495
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: Live on Tuesday, Chris.

1496
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 3: Brown Steve Tasker with you. What about this year's wide

1497
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 3: receiving cord do you think will be most different in

1498
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 3: comparison to last year's. You let us know at EIGHTO

1499
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 3: three zero five fifty eight five fifty two five fifty.

1500
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 3: Right back to the phones and to Mark in West Seneca.

1501
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: What's up Mark?

1502
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 15: Hey, Chris Ay, Steve, I it's good.

1503
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 9: Hey.

1504
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 15: First, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention one of

1505
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 15: my favorite callers who called in. Yes, it was nice

1506
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 15: to hear Judy come over from the dark side.

1507
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 4: It was very jovial yesterday she yes, she was uh yeah,

1508
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:39,879
Speaker 4: she had a good weekend.

1509
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 15: Yeah, it sounded awesome. So I love Judy when she calls.

1510
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 15: But anyway, the thing about the wide receivers that I

1511
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 15: really like what what Brandon Bean has done so far

1512
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 15: is I liked how he's brought an experience but youthful guys.

1513
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 15: At the same time, I think overall we have a

1514
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 15: youthful room now, and I think that'll be a plus

1515
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 15: for the team in general. Sure, when I look at

1516
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 15: how Brandon being works, and when we've heard him say

1517
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 15: this a million times, I want to be taking a

1518
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 15: can every year. I want to stay relevant every year.

1519
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 15: And I know we're a far away from saying this

1520
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 15: draft was successful. On paper, it is very successful, But

1521
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 15: if we end up having a draft where we get

1522
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 15: four or five defensive players that are more than serviceable,

1523
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 15: but actual guys that are part of our defense, when

1524
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 15: you look at that brownie, you concuse me of this

1525
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 15: all the time looking too far ahead. I mean, we

1526
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 15: haven't even played this season, and I'm looking towards the

1527
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 15: season after. If he has positioned himself that if he

1528
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 15: deems it, now's the time he could take one of

1529
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 15: those big kicks at the can in a draft and

1530
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 15: move up the board to get an elite talent at

1531
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 15: wide receiver if he deems there's one there and not

1532
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,759
Speaker 15: really hurt the team and able to give up assets

1533
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 15: in the draft at the time that he can say

1534
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 15: he can live without to get that guy elite.

1535
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 4: What if the elite talent is a guard, not so interesting?

1536
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 15: I I you know, I would. There's a lot that

1537
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 15: goes into that question.

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01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 4: Steven Well, I mean you're saying, he jump up. There's

1539
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 4: only one thing you jump up if there's an elite corner, an.

1540
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 15: Elite corner, I go get an elite elite wide receiver.

1541
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 15: The reason I bring up wide receiver it's such a

1542
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 15: hot topic around town all the time, year after year.

1543
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 15: And that's my point that maybe he says, now's the

1544
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 15: time to do that very thing. But you know, but

1545
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 15: even if it was a corner, if it's one of

1546
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 15: the you know, skill positions where if you get an

1547
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 15: elite guy, it's somebody that you really want for the

1548
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 15: you know, the cap reasons and everything that goes into that,

1549
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 15: then that's the time to do it. That's great, But

1550
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 15: he's not doing it, and he's not giving up any asset.

1551
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 15: Steady beams really really necessary to fill out the team.

1552
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 15: That's my point.

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01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I get it.

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01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nice to be in a position to kick

1555
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 4: the camp, to have a shot at the brass ring

1556
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 4: the super Bowl every year every year. Obviously, that's it's

1557
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 4: kind of I think, Bills, I think that's what you

1558
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 4: want because it's not You're not losing the super Bowl

1559
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 4: because you didn't get the right guy in the draft

1560
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 4: this last year. You know what I mean. You're getting

1561
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 4: to the super Bowl because you draft, you have a

1562
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 4: philosophy that works and gets you shot at it every year.

1563
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 4: That fourth down s Let's face it, the Bills didn't

1564
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 4: get put out of the playoffs last year because of

1565
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 4: a guy they picked in the draft. You know in April.

1566
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 4: They got put out of the super Bowl this year

1567
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 4: because they got shafted on two straight spots on third

1568
01:19:55,400 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 4: and fourth down. That's what ended the season. That's which

1569
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 4: you got to remember. And that's this philosophy that they've

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01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 4: been using is what gets them there every year to

1571
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 4: get on the doorsteps so they have a chance to

1572
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 4: overcome a bad spot and to overcome a drop to pass,

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01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 4: or overcome a bad kick, or to overcome you know,

1574
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 4: a touch they're giving up a touchdown, you know that

1575
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 4: they can overcome. They get a chance to get in

1576
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 4: there and have a shot at it. That's I think

1577
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 4: what you want. And the reason I say that is

1578
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 4: because they're in my opinion, there's never a time and

1579
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 4: a guy on the board worth what you're saying, because

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01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 4: there I said it before the draft, and I'll say

1581
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 4: it again. There's a handful of teams. The Bills are

1582
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 4: one of them that could have not drafted a single

1583
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 4: guy and they're still gonna be in it at the end.

1584
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 4: That's how that good teams are like that. They've got

1585
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 4: enough good players, leadership, and a process that gets them

1586
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 4: there every year. You don't want to go outside that

1587
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 4: process just because there's a shiny toy on the shelf.

1588
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 4: You got to do your thing and do it well.

1589
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 4: And in those moments when you get to that last

1590
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 4: game of the year, when you're on the road in

1591
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 4: Kansas City, or when you're here against Kansas City, or

1592
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 4: when you're here against Cincinnati in the playoffs, or in

1593
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 4: Baltimore or here against Baltimore, pick your team. You can

1594
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 4: overcome it this year. When that next bad thing that

1595
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 4: happens to a Buffalo team that puts them out of

1596
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 4: the playoffs happens, you can overcome it this time. That's

1597
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 4: this philosophy that Brandon Bean and Sean McDermot have get

1598
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 4: you there, gives you that chance every single year. That's

1599
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 4: where you want to be. And I'll say it again,

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01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 4: there has five or six teams that didn't need this draft.

1601
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 4: If we got some guys to contribute, awesome, that's great.

1602
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 4: We're going to the playoffs with it without them.

1603
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to Chuck in Hamburg next. What do you

1604
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 1: got first, Chuck, Chris.

1605
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 2: I believe that this year, the biggest difference may be

1606
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 2: if one of the new guys can get separation over

1607
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 2: the other. Than that, I think Josh is just going

1608
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 2: to find though the open guy and move down the field.

1609
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 2: And Steve. If the Bills couldn't take the game out

1610
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: of the refs hands by not producing the first down

1611
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 2: without any doubt, you can't whine about it later.

1612
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 4: I agree with that, Chuck. It's fair, Yeah, it's fair.

1613
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 4: The point isn't that I'm whinding about them missing the call.

1614
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 4: I'm whining about the fact that you got to find

1615
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 4: a way. You know, you got to make your own Braain,

1616
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 4: you got to make your own breaks. And if it's

1617
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 4: not the first down or third down, is a drop

1618
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 4: passing the end zone to win the game, or it's

1619
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 4: a miskick to extend the game, it's it's always something

1620
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 4: that loses your season because you're that good. You're always

1621
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 4: that good. This team, I mean, they set an NFL

1622
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,799
Speaker 4: record because you can't beat him by more than one possession.

1623
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 4: And you can go back to thee the game they

1624
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 4: really they really got their heads caved in last year

1625
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 4: by Baltimore thirty five. You go back and look at

1626
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 4: the second half of that game. There's about three or

1627
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 4: four things that happened that got it to a twenty

1628
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 4: five point deficit. The trade should have been, it should

1629
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 4: have been a possession game.

1630
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: Because the momentum shifted. It was twenty one to ten.

1631
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:15,799
Speaker 4: And Bill scored.

1632
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bill scored.

1633
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 3: Ty Johnson runs it in from three yards out, bounces

1634
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 3: it outside, race to the pylon, touchdown. And then they

1635
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 3: get the ball back after a three and out. Right,

1636
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 3: the defense kind of tightens up.

1637
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: It's three and out.

1638
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 3: They move the ball back, they're at midfield, they call

1639
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 3: the trick play, it blows up in their face, turnover.

1640
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 3: They go down and score, and now instead of an

1641
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 3: eleven point game, you know, they're down eighteen points and

1642
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 3: the game goes the wrong way quickly.

1643
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: So so, but shifts like that can happen in the NFL.

1644
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 4: That's right, And my point isn't about whining about, you know,

1645
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 4: losing the game because they didn't because they got a

1646
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 4: bad spot. And my point point is, when you lose

1647
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 4: a game, it's always something right, it's always something cause

1648
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 4: you lose a game, and a lot of times you

1649
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 4: don't feel like you lost that. And I'll say this,

1650
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 4: and this is my point. I guess I'll say it

1651
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 4: like this. You never feel when the Bills lose a

1652
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,839
Speaker 4: game in this era, when the Josh Allen, Sean McDermott

1653
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 4: Brandon Bean era. In this era, you never feel like

1654
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 4: the Bills lose a game where they were the worst team,

1655
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 4: where they couldn't have they shouldn't have, should have would

1656
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 4: have won it, or couldn't have won it. I mean,

1657
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 4: let's think back to the years of the drought. You

1658
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 4: had like nine things go after before you feel like

1659
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 4: you could have won that game. These games, it's like

1660
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 4: nine things have to go wrong to lose games. You

1661
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 4: never feel like you're not good enough. That's the hallmark

1662
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 4: of this Sean McDermott team. You never feel like you're

1663
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 4: not good enough. You always feel like it was a

1664
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 4: missed opportunity. And there's a huge difference in there.

1665
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 3: Let's go to Gary on a sale next. What's up Gary, Hey, guys,

1666
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 3: I y'all do them good good.

1667
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 16: I think it's clearly they're getting guys that can get

1668
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 16: separation quick.

1669
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 5: So hees faster options.

1670
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 16: A lot of times last year had a little separation,

1671
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 16: but they had enough guys the separation. Now, think about

1672
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 16: what three four guys that can that can beat him

1673
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 16: off the line. He can use are quick throws. He

1674
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 16: gives a quick answers. That's what I like about it.

1675
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Elijah Moore falls into that category obviously,

1676
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 3: along with Samuel and Shakir, and then you know Palmer,

1677
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 3: presumably on the outside with Coleman. Palmer is a guy

1678
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 3: that gets more separation down the field. We heard Brandon

1679
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,799
Speaker 3: Bean reference it in the press conference after Palmer had signed,

1680
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 3: essentially saying, I'm watching his film last year and that

1681
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 3: guy could have had five touchdowns where he's wide open

1682
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 3: on double moves and they don't get him the ball.

1683
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 4: He's averaging fifteen yards of carry I mean a catch.

1684
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's where his separation is.

1685
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1686
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: So and Coleman is similar in that fashion.

1687
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 4: And you're right, and I'll say, say think about this

1688
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 4: what it does to and you always think about this

1689
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 4: and we've talked about it. What's it do to these

1690
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 4: teams defense? Is when you throw these guys out there

1691
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 4: and they got quick separators, and you think about this,

1692
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 4: like said, like Miami runs their offense where two A

1693
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 4: drops back and he's got to get rid. You go

1694
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 4: boom balls out, boom balls out, boom balls out. Well,

1695
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 4: you got to do some things defensively to combat that.

1696
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 4: If the Bills come out and have that in their arsenal,

1697
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 4: the defense has to do some things and kind of

1698
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 4: sell out in some ways to stop an offense like that,

1699
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 4: particularly when you're proficient at it. The Bills have the

1700
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 4: ability to do that. They jump those routes and force

1701
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 4: it to it to you know, pop the ball and

1702
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 4: hold that. Well, they don't have an answer because because

1703
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 4: quite frankly, Tua when he goes to he can't wait

1704
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 4: to throw the football because his arm's not strong enough

1705
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 4: to get it down the field without releasing it really

1706
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 4: really early, you know what I mean, He's got to

1707
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 4: put those moon balls up otherwise he can't get it there.

1708
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 4: Bills don't have that problem. So if you get them,

1709
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 4: if you've got teams selling out trying to stop that

1710
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 4: quick release stuff, all of a sudden, Josh gives a

1711
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 4: little pump fake and all the yeah and the lids

1712
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 4: off the defense because Josh can release it and wait

1713
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 4: for the past route to develop. So it does. Having

1714
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 4: quick separators, like Gary said, does change things for a defense,

1715
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 4: and it gives you one more thing that really puts

1716
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 4: pressure on them in the back end.

1717
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: Break time for us.

1718
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 3: Here, we'll get some final thoughts on the tweet sheet

1719
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:20,799
Speaker 3: in terms of what you believe will be the biggest

1720
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 3: difference with the Bill's wide receiver group this season compared

1721
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 3: to last. Here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health,

1722
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 3: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. What will be the biggest difference

1723
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 3: with the Bill's wide receiver group this season compared to last.

1724
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 3: Let's go to the tweet sheet brought to you by

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Speaker 3: Corgan Moving Systems, Official equipment moving Company and the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 3: where Andrew says, I would say that the wide receiver

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Speaker 3: room will be faster, not to mention how high most

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Speaker 3: of these wide receivers can jump. Allow Allen to put

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Speaker 3: the ball up higher for more explosive plays definitely will

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Speaker 3: be a problem for most defenses to handle. David says,

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Speaker 3: if Keon takes a step forward. NFL defenses watch out,

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Speaker 3: this group is balanced. Jack says, hopefully a lot more

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Speaker 3: speed and separation downfield. It's no question Shakira is awesome

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Speaker 3: and gets separation short, but he and Coleman are in speedsters.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully Palmer More and a healthy Samuel can use four

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Speaker 3: to fourish speed and route ability to get open down

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Speaker 3: the field and scare defenses to back them off. And

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Speaker 3: Jordan says, I really feel it's Elijah Moore. Look at

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Speaker 3: who he's played with. Guy needs a good QB, a

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Speaker 3: good system, and a fresh start, still has tremendous potential.

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Speaker 3: And then finally, Greg says, youth speed, skill, route running

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five versus power, run blocking, and size

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. I'm expecting more mismatches and run

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Speaker 3: after catchability. This year could be more explosive over the

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Speaker 3: top also question mark.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously, if one of these guys outgrows his received

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Speaker 4: role at this point where we're not even playing football

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Speaker 4: yet and from this end of the season, one of

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Speaker 4: these guys, all you know, it kind of look like

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Speaker 4: they're gonna use them like they did last year. But

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Speaker 4: let's face it, if you get you know, like Elijah Moore,

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Speaker 4: Keon Coleman or Joshua Palmer, any of these guys grows

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Speaker 4: up and all of a sudden and blows up, it's

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Speaker 4: because they're killing defenses. So if that happens, yeah, hey man,

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Speaker 4: give the guy more targets. That's fine. That's how it

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Speaker 4: happens usually, but it's okay if it doesn't. They're all

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Speaker 4: good enough to contribute to an offense that can score

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Speaker 4: a lot of points. And we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and one of our tweeters is right, they are

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Speaker 3: more layered as a unit with doubling up at certain

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Speaker 3: roles and positions. That's it for us today, Steve, and

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Speaker 3: I'll see tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: One