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Speaker 1: What is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. A big postseason one here,

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Speaker 1: because there really hasn't been too too much going on

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Speaker 1: in Mets world. But anything that is going on, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about it, like the new Bad Bunny album, dropping

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Speaker 1: a couple name references there, some anniversaries, some things housekeeping,

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Speaker 1: Arizona Fall League. We're just gonna talk a lot about

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Speaker 1: baseball with you guys this episode, so make sure that

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Speaker 1: you do enjoy it. Follow us on our social media

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Speaker 1: drop us review, download and subscribe. James, how we doing, man?

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Speaker 1: Watching some postseason baseball?

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Speaker 2: Downing? Great? Postseason? Has been fun? Why the New York's

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Speaker 2: been amazing? Oh yeah, no complaints right now with all

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Speaker 2: it's been, it's been a great time.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I will say, I had to turn

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Speaker 1: on the heat two nights ago. I had to turn

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Speaker 1: on the heat. It got down to like sixty three

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Speaker 1: in my apartment. It's not like I had the windows

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Speaker 1: open or anything, but it just got incredibly cold. So

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Speaker 1: but we're had to turn the heat. I'm not happy

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 2: What TOCs. Let's come on, you grow up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm always wearing socks. I don't really like to be

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Speaker 1: barefoot in the house. It's the little wood floors. You

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Speaker 2: It's hot. I'm excited to go through some outside after.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I see a cat looking in from

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Speaker 2: across the street in the window neighbors. Really, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I could see him clearly making that contact. There's play

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Speaker 2: a new building up. He's like light colored, he's a

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Speaker 2: little speckled, looks like beige sandish. He's just staring. They

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Speaker 2: put a new building right across the street from me,

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Speaker 2: so where I used to have great privacy, now people

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Speaker 2: just see into my room. It's kind of funny, and

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Speaker 2: apparently someone moved in with a cat. But that's the

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Speaker 2: views from Brooklyn and on Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what an electric start to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: A lot of I mean, as you guys, as there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of the Mets stuff going on here. I mean,

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Speaker 2: let's see just run through the Mets. Things quick here.

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Speaker 2: First thing that happened. Report came out last week that

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Speaker 2: Franciscal Indoor played the basically the entire season with a

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Speaker 2: bone spur in his right elbow. Dog amazing, That's all

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Speaker 2: we can run.

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Speaker 1: I fact that he was able to do the season

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Speaker 1: that he had with that going on. I know there's

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Speaker 1: been some stuff going around baseball about you know, people

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Speaker 1: leaking things from the clubhouse. It's a safe space, it's

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Speaker 1: a sanctuary. Impressive that nobody knew that this guy was hurt, apparently,

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Speaker 1: and he played one of the best seasons that we've

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Speaker 1: seen a short stop having a long time. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: shout Francisco Lindor. Glad to see that he's expected to

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Speaker 1: be ready for spring training. Uh, can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: what he does without bonespurs in his elbow.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good year with him, Yeah, I mean, honest, maybe

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Speaker 2: just get just do it again, because this goes again again.

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Speaker 2: It's uh. And then him and like you mentioned before,

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Speaker 2: him and edwind Diaz mentioned in the New Bad Bunny

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Speaker 2: album one of the biggest pop stars on planetarafore for

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Speaker 1: Got the Songs for You. Lindor was mentioned in Ronka

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Speaker 1: Freestyle and Diaz and Nadier Sabe which also had like

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Speaker 1: Randy A. Rose Rain. I think there was nine baseball

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Speaker 1: players mentioned throughout Bad Bunny's album, which, yeah, your your boy,

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Speaker 1: Mike Trout got to mention, which is a little bit

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Speaker 1: shocking to me. Didn't expect to see Mike Trout mentioned

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Speaker 1: in a Bad Bunny album. Because what are your feelings

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Speaker 2: One of my feelings on Mike Trout, I mean my

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Speaker 2: it's it's clear who was always Mike Trout, iink Mi

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Speaker 2: last night. I was just thinking about this where it's

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Speaker 2: like NBA wise, it's kind of like Curry versus Urrant,

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Speaker 2: a little different, even though Harper has these amazing moments.

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Speaker 2: But which then other thing that everyone loses in this conversation,

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Speaker 2: Brence Harper's plays a lot in the postseason, but he

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Speaker 2: still has never Again, this could change in a week,

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Speaker 2: but it feels like it might, but he still has none.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like that's kind of where it is,

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Speaker 2: Like whose career is you rather, I'd prob to be

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Speaker 2: Bryce Harper and Mike Trout.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know me, I'm gonna pick Trout. I've

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Speaker 1: I've picked Trout for everything. Like Trout has more MVPs,

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Speaker 1: Trout has just as many World series like Harper. Harper

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Speaker 1: He's obviously a dog in the postseason. He's obviously a

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Speaker 1: sick player. But Mike Trout is just miles away the

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Speaker 1: better player. It's not even close. The fact that this

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Speaker 1: That's It's the only thing thing I can think of.

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Speaker 1: You're doing a little bit too with your Mike Trout slander.

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Speaker 1: I want to let let that go either. But the

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Speaker 1: fact that people are having a conversation of who's had

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Speaker 1: a better career, Bryce Harper, Mike Trout, It's not even close.

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Speaker 1: It's not even close. Bryce Harper is sick. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. Mike Trout ends his career today.

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Speaker 1: He goes down as one of the best.

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Speaker 2: Baseball players ever, one of the best baseball players ever.

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Speaker 2: But I think he'll just still kind of get lost

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Speaker 2: I'm not telling you that. I'm not telling he's better.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you that he's just Bruce Harper's had the

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Speaker 2: more fun career. It's not even close.

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Speaker 1: And there's a oh, Bryce Harper is more fun, which

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Speaker 1: is crazy to say, but like, he is more fun

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Speaker 1: South Jersey, love the Phillies and then decide to play

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Speaker 2: You know what else is more fun than Mike Trout.

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Speaker 2: This tape measure right here, this Tate measure is more

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Speaker 1: Mike Okay, I don't know about that.

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Speaker 2: It's fun, it's more fun. Look at this, that's more

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Speaker 1: Mike trut If those of you on the YouTube video

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Speaker 1: getting a real exciting you I watch James uses tape.

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Speaker 2: Measure, Mike Trout is like, I don't even know. We

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Speaker 2: talk about oatmeal sometimes, like Mike Trout's like the best

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Speaker 2: oatmeal ever, Like you know, he is like, you make

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Speaker 2: these really nice overnight though he puts some maple. Serah,

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Speaker 2: you love oatmeal. I know you need oatmeal, but I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying it's like you never you never hop it

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Speaker 2: There was a fun article too by Jordan Schusterman, a

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Speaker 2: Fox and Cesspas barbecue sayspast barbecue guys do great reporting

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Speaker 2: in general. I'd like to shout out to them. Shout

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Speaker 2: Mint Show, Jake Mince Show. Jack Mits ran to Jake

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Speaker 2: wearing a Carlos Korea Giants jersey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which our friend Ernie went to the bathroom and

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Speaker 1: and He's like, guys, you got it. You gotta see this.

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Speaker 1: This dude online at the bathroom has a Carlos Korea

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Speaker 1: Giants jersey. He comes back. I'm like, oh, Jake, what's up? Man?

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Speaker 2: Like, I know who this is, but he Jordan. Really

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Speaker 2: great article just came out this morning and it was

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Speaker 2: Nationals teams. He never got to play in his birthday

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Speaker 2: because his birthday is October sixteenth, and yesterday, you guys

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Speaker 2: listen to this Wednesday. So on Monday, he got to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he crushed it. He absolutely crushed it. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: to talk about former Mets, former Mets managers. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about Mike Trout too. Buck Showalter. There's an article

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Speaker 1: We know he says he doesn't want to stop managing,

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Speaker 1: which that pretty much tracks with Buck Angels. What do

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Speaker 2: I mean, it could be dynamic too out there. I

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Speaker 2: think it's interesting that the Angel's owner was like, this,

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Speaker 2: this is what I want. He said, he wants veteran presidents.

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Speaker 2: We know the Bucks veteran presidence, and he wants like

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Speaker 2: a steady hand for a team that's been tumultuous for

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Speaker 2: the last yes, twelve fifteen years, haven't really had any.

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Speaker 1: Pretty much sin Spike Trout's got there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this see is pretty much the whole time. And

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Speaker 2: Mike trust decided, you know, to sign that huge contract

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Speaker 2: sension with them. He saw what was going on. He

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, let me get I want more of this.

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Speaker 2: But maybe maybe, honestly, maybe that's what each of those

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Speaker 2: two guys need to Just get get Mike, because I

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Speaker 2: want to see Mike trying to play us. I want

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Speaker 2: to see Mike trafsic seed. He had the other best

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years. They still could do nothing

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Speaker 2: with that. And I don't know, I think I think

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Speaker 2: it'd be fun to see Buck manage again California. Buck

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Speaker 2: would be cool. We haven't seen Buck ever manage in California.

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Speaker 2: I think that'd be a fun vibe and I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think, I mean, if it happens, I'm pretty cool. Also,

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Speaker 2: just in terms of our stuff, very slow, our search

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Speaker 1: field leader in Freddy Freeman, who they let go, and

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Speaker 1: ever since then haven't been able to win a World Series.

431
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Speaker 2: So you know, since then, they haven't even been able

432
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Speaker 2: to win more than one NLDS game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they haven't won a series, a playoff series since

434
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Speaker 1: Freddy Freeman walked out of that building just saying.

435
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Speaker 2: They I it's funny, like we are, we are, we

436
00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,600
Speaker 2: are having a lot of fun here. We're poking some fun.

437
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Speaker 2: But it probably is a bit of a moment to

438
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Speaker 2: start the dialog, especially when this team they have like

439
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,320
Speaker 2: a red carpet celebration when they're leaving home to go

440
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Speaker 2: to Philadelphia for the first round of the postseason, Like,

441
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Speaker 2: what are you guys doing? Like you wore you thinking

442
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Speaker 2: like you This team, first of all, just completely in.

443
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,280
Speaker 2: The Phillies destroyed you last season, absolutely pants through the

444
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Speaker 2: front of the entire world after you pretended you won

445
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Speaker 2: the World Series because you caught the Mets of the

446
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Speaker 2: divisions and graduating congratulations last year twenty twenty two, the

447
00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,480
Speaker 2: record books will say the Mets and Braves on the

448
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,080
Speaker 2: same amount of potseason games, because it's true, it happened,

449
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Speaker 2: and they tied. They what ended with the same one

450
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Speaker 2: game difference regular season record.

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Speaker 1: Uh, the Mets, technically, I think lost one more game.

452
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Speaker 2: Yeah, nevertheless, does not matter. But we'll never I'll never

453
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Speaker 2: I'll never get over that one.

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Speaker 1: But no, we lost one less. We technically had a

455
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Speaker 1: better win percentage. We only lost two. They lost three

456
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Speaker 1: in the postseason.

457
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Speaker 2: There is didn't poss ran out of time, and then

458
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Speaker 2: you get the same team again. You look overmatching your

459
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Speaker 2: first two games at home, and you still follow through

460
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Speaker 2: the red carpet celebration where you have your players dress

461
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Speaker 2: up in nice close and bring them families and walk

462
00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,760
Speaker 2: down the street and got onto a bus to go

463
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Speaker 2: to a plane to then lose two more games to

464
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Speaker 2: a bitter rival. It's it's so funny. Also, just the

465
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Speaker 2: the coalition of Mets fans that were like involved in

466
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Speaker 2: this series. I think a lot of us were just

467
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Speaker 2: by nature rooting for the Phillies instead of the Braves,

468
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Speaker 2: which is really funny because even it felt like the

469
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Speaker 2: Phillies haven't had a better chance to win the World

470
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,600
Speaker 2: Series anyway. They're better, their rosters better built for the postseason.

471
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Speaker 2: They have a better ball up, and they have better

472
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Speaker 2: starting pitching. Their starting pitchers aren't I don't know, whiners,

473
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Speaker 2: even though I do say that they're not fun, But

474
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Speaker 2: we make a lot of fun. A spatch a Streider

475
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Speaker 2: in the show and his bad postseason record, but he

476
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 2: did have probably the best quotes in the entire team

477
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Speaker 2: after they lost that game, talking about accountability, saying they

478
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 2: weren't good enough, saying they didn't do enough, saying that

479
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Speaker 2: they probably got ahead themselves a little bit, which I

480
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 2: guess having that hindsight is something. But after he said

481
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Speaker 2: that they shouldn't be fans at baseball games, like he

482
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Speaker 2: had to walk back his comments and say something else. Yep,

483
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Speaker 2: but just it was so much fun to watch them

484
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Speaker 2: lose and cry and whine, and it was again, it

485
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Speaker 2: just shows how bad the season we had. But this

486
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 2: was this was our this was our baseball watching super

487
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 2: Bowl twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: The Braves were a team that looked relatively inhuman, unhuman inhuman.

489
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Speaker 1: The entire season, they pretty much just dominate everybody they played.

490
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,399
Speaker 1: Bryce Elder was pitching out of his mind. Like anything

491
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Speaker 1: that could have gone right for the Braves this year.

492
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Speaker 1: Ozzie Alby's played well, and we know that guy's over eighty.

493
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 1: He's really not that good. Everything that could have gone

494
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 1: right for this Braves team went right, and then the

495
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 1: postseason happened. They popped off a little bit too much.

496
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Speaker 1: When the NL East. We saw that we've seen take

497
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Speaker 1: take a page out of the Astros book. I know

498
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Speaker 1: they're losing to the Rangers right now, but that was

499
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Speaker 1: a team that's been there before, that's act like they've

500
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Speaker 1: been there. The Braves act like this is the first

501
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Speaker 1: time that they made the postseason in years. They acted

502
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Speaker 1: like they've never been there. They I mean, they were

503
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Speaker 1: just they were celebrating the small things. They didn't keep

504
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: their eye on the prize. They got smacked by the Phillies.

505
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Speaker 1: They were worried about too much noise on and off

506
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Speaker 1: the field. They were worried about atta boy Harper for

507
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Speaker 1: Orlando Arcia. Or Lando Arcia completely completely, just killed this

508
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Speaker 1: Braves team, by the way, I think you want to

509
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 1: talk about anybody Orlando Arcia, the guy who somehow made

510
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Speaker 1: the All Star Team over Francisco Lindor, which is one

511
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Speaker 1: of the biggest crimes, honestly, of the twenty twenty three season.

512
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Speaker 1: The fact that that guy made the All Star Team

513
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Speaker 1: over Francisco Lindor after doing like babyfaces to the Phillies

514
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Speaker 1: fans and then losing and getting knocked out. Talk about

515
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Speaker 1: a more embarrassing moment for a guy who really should

516
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Speaker 1: just be thankful he was on an MLB roster even

517
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Speaker 1: to start the year, considering how bad his career went

518
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Speaker 1: at some point, it is impressive to see that this

519
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: almighty Braves team all of a sudden things got a

520
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,959
Speaker 1: little bit tough and everybody started pointing fingers. Well, you know,

521
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Speaker 1: the reporters in the clubhouse shouldn't have said that. The

522
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Speaker 1: clubhouse as a sanctuary. It's a safe place that wasn't

523
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Speaker 1: meant to get out I mean, it's amazing. It's amazing

524
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Speaker 1: that the Braves just completely crumbled in one of their

525
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Speaker 1: bigger moments.

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Speaker 2: It's just amazing. How much of what happened to the

527
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Speaker 2: Braves is everybody else's fault. He started with the format,

528
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Speaker 2: which is wrong because the way he worked in the Phillies,

529
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Speaker 2: they should have had four other five games the postseason

530
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Speaker 2: series started by either Spencer Strier or Max Freed. And also,

531
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about Max Fried a little bit

532
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Speaker 2: because I've've gone mat Max Free to box a few times.

533
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Speaker 2: People in the baseball world think that Max Freed is

534
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Speaker 2: this type of world be there, ascending Sidney Cofax. He's

535
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Speaker 2: actually he's I'm saying his re years again. I when

536
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Speaker 2: Max Free came up, I liked him a lot because

537
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Speaker 2: he was unheralded, underrated, came from a high draft pick,

538
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 2: and then kind of bows his way through the minor leagues,

539
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 2: develops the new pitches and found his way to be

540
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: a really good major league regular. But he literally won

541
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Speaker 2: that one ring didn't even pitch that well that postseason,

542
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Speaker 2: and people just think he's this like godlike figure. He's

543
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Speaker 2: got almost a five career era in the postseason he's

544
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Speaker 2: really again one of the most overrat pitches in baseball.

545
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Speaker 2: I said all year I said to you, and you

546
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Speaker 2: were like, I don't say. I don't say that. This

547
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 2: team is just not built to win October because they

548
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Speaker 2: went through the same thing they were built as last year.

549
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: Their hitters got cold the same time Ron the counyea

550
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Speaker 2: absolute turtled when it mattered most. Yeh, Marcel is doing

551
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: a turtle when it mattered most. Like Matt All said,

552
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: nothing when it mattered most. And that's just it. They

553
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: lost to a team that was better, wanted it more,

554
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Speaker 2: and again more well equipped to win this series. I

555
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: don't know how the brains have gone through this whole

556
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: offseason looking at the exact same roster they lost to

557
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: the year before and been like, yeah, we'll do it,

558
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Speaker 2: do it again. Well, we won't have to change anything.

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Speaker 1: Was also kind of crazy to me that how little

560
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Speaker 1: they played Sean Murphy. Like, I know Travis Darnaut has

561
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Speaker 1: been pretty solid, but the fact that Sean Murphy played

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Speaker 1: I think in one maybe two games is kind of

563
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Speaker 1: kind of insane.

564
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Speaker 2: Not really, he had like basically a five hundred ops

565
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Speaker 2: the whole second half.

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Speaker 1: He's just I mean still at the end of the day,

567
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Speaker 1: like we but second half he had that kind of ops.

568
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: Ronald Cuney was so hot and he was ice cold.

569
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Speaker 1: It's almost like that at some point you just got

570
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Speaker 1: to play the better guy, and Travis Darnaut is not

571
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Speaker 1: better than Sean Murphy. No world, especially when the Phillies

572
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Speaker 1: were running all over Travis darna which thank goodness because

573
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Speaker 1: we saw that for years with the Mets, where that

574
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Speaker 1: guy couldn't thro out a base warner to save his life,

575
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Speaker 1: and it seems like everybody else forgot as soon as

576
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Speaker 1: he went to the braves as like, oh, Travistarno is different,

577
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Speaker 1: He's on the braves. Phillies were like, no, this guy

578
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Speaker 1: still got a noodle arm and they ran all over him.

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Speaker 2: I have found myself a few times in the last

580
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Speaker 2: week kind of trapped in in twenty fifteen postseason postseason

581
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Speaker 2: like compilation wormholes. Travistar, I know, had a heck of

582
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: a postseason that year for the Mets. He was almost

583
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: he was really instrumental in that run and like getting

584
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Speaker 2: through those first couple series and actually getting to the world.

585
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah again, like I noel over Travis dar No. He

586
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 2: was like kind of the gatekeeper a lot with Darcia comments,

587
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: which was a little frustrating, but I think you kind

588
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: of have to be as a player in that situation.

589
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Speaker 2: But it also just goes to show, like back to

590
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Speaker 2: those Arcia comments, like you just won one game in

591
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Speaker 2: the NLDS and you're screaming and hooting and hollering after

592
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: you literally saved your season by the skin of your

593
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Speaker 2: teeth and a home game you already blue home field advantage.

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Speaker 1: Dude. This is like when when the Yankees played the

595
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Speaker 1: Red Sox, remember and Aaron Judge started playing like the

596
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Speaker 1: music in Fenway for winning one game. It's like when

597
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Speaker 1: baseball in August. When will they learn? When will they

598
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Speaker 1: learn that your actions have consequences. You can't don't don't wake,

599
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Speaker 1: don't poke the bear, don't poke the bear. They poked

600
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Speaker 1: the bear and they got mauled by him.

601
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Speaker 2: No, and honestly, they the barious themselves got mauled in

602
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Speaker 2: this series. And it really just goes to show that,

603
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: like the thing what happens in the regular season, and

604
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 2: again people are talking about the playoff format, Sure it

605
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, and even like the phrase getting hot at

606
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Speaker 2: the right time, that barely even matters. I told you

607
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Speaker 2: guys that I think the Diamondbacks scored four runs in

608
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Speaker 2: the last four regular season games or five runs in

609
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Speaker 2: the last six regular season games, something like that, and

610
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they come in the postseason just

611
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: start hitting home runs. The Texas Range are the coldest

612
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Speaker 2: team in baseball in the second most of the second half,

613
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Speaker 2: and they have yet to lose a postseason game. Like

614
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Speaker 2: it's really just about like turning the flipping that switch

615
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Speaker 2: when it matters the most. I have it in a

616
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Speaker 2: tweet from last week. But here we go, the last

617
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Speaker 2: twelve teams to reach the LCS series. Hear their win

618
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Speaker 2: totals ninety eighty four, ninety ninety, one hundred and six,

619
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Speaker 2: ninety nine, eighty nine, eighty seven, one hundred and six,

620
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Speaker 2: ninety five, ninety two, eighty eight. So five of twelve

621
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Speaker 2: teams had more than ninety wins in the last four years,

622
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Speaker 2: last three years to reach the LCS series doesn't matter,

623
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Speaker 2: that's just yeah. The whole postseason off format being broken

624
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: is just such a cry baby thing. Like against that

625
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: was so good for the Phillies, It was so good

626
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: for the braves right to the braves of the Braves

627
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Speaker 2: I met. Sorry, I mean it's good for Phillies too,

628
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: because they have two aces. But you know, they also

629
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: had to start Ranger Suarez twice two games, beat Spent

630
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: Stryer twice in the series. Again, and that's also like

631
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: there's the whole Spencer Strey. The conversation has really gone

632
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: off the rails because and again, but I'm not gonna say,

633
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: like he is he's a great picture. He's so good

634
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: the things he's super good at. He is so good

635
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: getting strike out, he's so good getting swings and misses.

636
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 2: But he's been so inflated based on a lot of

637
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: like I'm not gonna call analytics because not even Atltics,

638
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: it's more of just a fantasy baseball community community I'm

639
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: proudly apart of and I love at the bottom of

640
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: my heart, which is the fact that like he is

641
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: theoretically the best picture in baseball because he has the

642
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: most strikeouts and he has like the best x FIP

643
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Speaker 2: and the best potential, Like he has the best potential

644
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: to have like that phenomenal season where he puts together

645
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: like a two to two with three hundred strikeouts, and

646
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: he's amazing. But the end of the day, he still

647
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: has only two pitches. And when you're in a playoff

648
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: game against the amazing lineup, especially linep that's filled with

649
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: lefties and the guy like special Stryler throws like I

650
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: think this year he got set a career high with

651
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: ten percent eleven percent change ups, predominantly against lefties. When

652
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: Bryce Harper seing you twice in a week, like how many,

653
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: Like you're really gonna fool them with the change up?

654
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: You're gonna you know, he could hit ninety nine at

655
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 2: the top of his own. That's not an issue for him.

656
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: Like if you unless you could really pick that spot,

657
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: that one spot that Bryce Harper really can't hit, which

658
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: is like high and outside quite literally on the black

659
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: the only thing he really can't do. Like how many

660
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: times can you really get through a line him and

661
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: get these guys out? Now you're the ace. He did

662
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: go deep into the first game where then pitch that well,

663
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: he got to seven innings, But like, how much can

664
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: he really give you, especially as a guy who as

665
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: good as he has, the talents as he has, as

666
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: theoretically amazing as he is, at the fact, he's gonna

667
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: be sp one every fantasy draft next year. Maybe besides

668
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: Garrett Cooks, he's still a horse. How much can you

669
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: really give you because he's not really preventing runs and

670
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: this team already seed him and they have have to

671
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: line up our lefties and they're all the lefties are

672
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: pretty good.

673
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: That's actually such a good point too, because we're now

674
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: seen in the Ranger series a guy like Dathan Valde

675
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: who crawled into the end of the season, I mean,

676
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: looked about as dead as door nail. The guy was

677
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: just like, I'm my fantasy team in Dynasty. I'm like,

678
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: what am I good? I gotta get rid of this guy.

679
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: I don't want him, like his arm looks dead. But

680
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: then he gets to the postseason. He's such a dog

681
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: in the postseason, complete opposite of Spencer Strider. He wants

682
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: the ball, he wants to pitch. He's gonna beat you,

683
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Unlike Spencer Strider, who is I think has like a

684
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: five to four r in the postseason, hasn't won a

685
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: game regardless, He's got so many pitches. He's been using

686
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: that splitter. He's they got the fastball, the cutter, the slider,

687
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: the change up. He like the Rangers this postseason in particular,

688
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: have done something that a lot of teams haven't been

689
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: doing as much, which is their pitchers have really really

690
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: thrown all their pitches evenly across the games. And I

691
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: think you made a really good point there where you've

692
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: seen Spencer Strider twice in five days, you know what

693
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: his pitches are. You've seen them. If you've played baseball

694
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: ever before, you see a guy, once you see him

695
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: a second time, you feel more and more comfortable, especially

696
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: if it's in such a short time period. A guy

697
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: like Nathan Valdi, who his stuff is not as good

698
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: as Spencer Strider. I never will say that, but the

699
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: ability to have those different pitches makes it just a

700
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: little bit harder for those Astros hitters who now have

701
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: to guess on three more pitches rather.

702
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: Than is if fast balls a slider? Another thing that

703
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: all he did yesterday especially, that was cool he just

704
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: basically said. And it got into trouble a little bitcause

705
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: the middle of that game the Astros did get close

706
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: to winning, and again he probably threw far, far too

707
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: many strikes. You are don alvarezk given one strikes too

708
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: many strikes? He has about six home runs now in

709
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: six post season games.

710
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, well we'll talk about you because he's crazy Yvaldi.

711
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: Those first couple of innings, he wasn't missing any bats.

712
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 2: He was just basically telling the Astros hit I think

713
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: he had I think it was three whiffs or four

714
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: whiffs in the first three innings, and then he wound

715
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: up the game getting fourteen like when he was really

716
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: getting out of his jams late. He was then going

717
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: out of his own but he was rocking his own

718
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: rate of almost seventy percent through the first few winnings.

719
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: I think they mentioned in the Fox broadcast, and especially

720
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: a splither. The splither is a pitch that, like league wide,

721
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: the average rate that pitch comes in his zone is

722
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: probably around thirty percent. He threw it almost fifty percent

723
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: in the zone yesterday, and like he was just putting

724
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: that pitch there. He was like, you guys want to

725
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: hit it, Just hit it, like, just hit the ball,

726
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: like this is the postse like I'm not getting nibble,

727
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna play any games. Big reason for that too,

728
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: is the team spot them four runs on the top

729
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: of the first sitting. Of course, it leaves you the

730
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: strategy to do that. But he said, you know what,

731
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna dog you. I'm gonna throw these pitches

732
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: in the strigs so if you can't hit him, you

733
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: can't hit him. And he threw because, like I think,

734
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if you even look those stats, you

735
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: could just feel it watching the game. The baseball acumen,

736
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: but all four pitches he had through releast fifteen percent

737
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: of the time, and his fastball color and splither alter

738
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: at least twenty five percent of the time ye slither

739
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: being the most thrown pitch of the game and was

740
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: sitting eighty nine as a splither. He just he just

741
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: goes out and he's like, I'm just gonna throw. I'm

742
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: gonna pitch and feel it felt like the opposite. Even

743
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: when Freed pitched that game, he only got to pitch

744
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: one game in the in the Phillies Brave Series. It

745
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: was so much nibbling. It was so much curveball, curveball, curveball,

746
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: curve But I don want to get hurt. I want

747
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: to get hurt. I want to get hurt. And again,

748
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: having a full run lead on top of the first

749
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: hitting that is a big change of strategy. I'm sure

750
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: they talked about that internally. Shout up, Mike Maddocks, a

751
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: long time great pitching coach with that Rangers team. I've

752
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: heard Greg talk this year about that. He spends some

753
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: time with him too, just being like when to help

754
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: my brother a little bit, king of throwing pitches in

755
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: his zone. Never waste to pitch, never ever wats to pitch,

756
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: especially a guy like Naith Nivaldi, where every pitch is precious.

757
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: We don't know, we'll know, and that thing's gonna snap.

758
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: Like he basically, like you said, barely got through the season.

759
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: Like we can't, like we can't, like I don't want

760
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: to waste pitches here because this team also doesn't have

761
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: really a lot of depth and starting pitching, relief pitching anything.

762
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: Every pitch is value, But we can't spend the fifth

763
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: inning waiting around getting to one hundred pitches and seeing

764
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: how we get through the rest of this game. Rangers

765
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: ended that game yesterday. They basically had nothing left. They

766
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: had no one left to pitch. Real if the Astros

767
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: was scored one more run, that would have been it,

768
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: because they had there like the guys they went through,

769
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: like every single trusted guy and it was like Bors,

770
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: spors Chapman, Leclerk and like Mkirk went twenty four pitches,

771
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: like he had like six more pitches left total, Like, yeah,

772
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: Chap three, they were like stop, get out, get out,

773
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: get out, I can't do this again. But I don't know,

774
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: It's just it was a it's good baseball being played

775
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: right now, but it's such a difference in philosophy between

776
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: what the Braves pitchers tried to do and what we've

777
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: seen the Rangers pitchers doing so far and Astros in Phillies.

778
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: I think it's also really I want to bring up too,

779
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: like we talked about not nibbling, attacking batters, not getting

780
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: swings and misses, but still having that success. Look at

781
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: what Justin Verlander even did in Game one. Yes, they

782
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: lost to nothing to the Rangers, but Verlander, I think

783
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: up until the sixth hitting like did not have a

784
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: swing and miss, did not have a swing and miss

785
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: in that game, and he still was extremely effective and

786
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: like not rubbing salt Mets fans wounds here. We were

787
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: with you guys, like it's great when he was here.

788
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: Whish he was doing this for us rather than the Astros,

789
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: but smarter organizations Rangers, Astros, Phillies whatever, there's like a

790
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: clear plan that they have all had, even Zack Wheeler, Like,

791
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler looked great. He's got some crazy stuff, but

792
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: he attacks, he attacks the zone. He's like, you're not

793
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: gonna hit me, You're not gonna be better than me,

794
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: Come come hit it. These are all things that you've

795
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: seen that the bravest pitchers weren't able to do. And

796
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: it's just impressive. Also, shout Nathan Valdi, one of the

797
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: best postseason pictures of our.

798
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: Generation, literally, and I want to get in Zach Wheeler.

799
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: So box again for a second, because Mark knows that

800
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: this is like one of my biggest so me too.

801
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: This is it's gonna be different, because I do think

802
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: that there is like I like again, I think that

803
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: most Mets content creators basically say the same things over

804
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: and over again. And the one thing is like, oh

805
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: my god, I ca't believe zachly Wheer left, which is

806
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: true we said the last week. I get it. But

807
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: he's now in the range where he's basically become and

808
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: like you might think I'm crazy for this, and it

809
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: could change a lot in a week, but Zach Wheeler

810
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: has become one of the best postseason pitchers that we've

811
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: we're ever gonna see in our lives. He I mean

812
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: his number now he has the lowest whip in postseason history,

813
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: is more than for the innings. Whoa, Okay, you know

814
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: who's better than this? This is my soapbox thing, miss

815
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: mister unanimous. Mariano Rivera, who I still never never over that,

816
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: never respected about the Hall of Fame again, lower with

817
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: the Marion Rivera in the postseason.

818
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: Zack Wheeler's throwing fifty four innings in the postseason.

819
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: Yes, he is a marvel. He's incredible, and I don't

820
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: think he gets like the generational respect that he should

821
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: be given for being one of the best postseason pitchers

822
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: ever the entire history of the game. The stats back

823
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: it up. If he again. A lot of guy's legacies

824
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: will change with one championship, especially Phillips team, namely Harper

825
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: and Wheeler and you know who else. You know who

826
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: else too. I almost fired the tweed off last night.

827
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: I was gonna save it because I want to wait

828
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: for a bigger game. Caimberrell Campbell gets another one, bona

829
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: fide Hall of Famer. He has my vote straight to

830
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: the He like absolutely no question about I was talking

831
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: to Phillies fan about it before, and it's just like that,

832
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: Like a lot of legacy changes when you get one

833
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: like and it should because a winning a World Series

834
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: is very important compared to not winning a World Series.

835
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: But a lot of things are happening for these teams

836
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: right now, and then you look back at that Braves

837
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 2: team just whimpering and whining and complaining about every single

838
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: thing that happened outside of their control, when in their

839
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: control they had baseball games to win. They couldn't do it. Yeah,

840
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean the last game, Game four in that series,

841
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: the Phillies every single thing, and then the whole kitchen

842
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: saying what we were watching. Then Williamsburg were just freaking

843
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: out because they had no pictures left. And then even

844
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: when the season is completely on the line, when things

845
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 2: are absolutely back against the wall, who do the Braves

846
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 2: have hitting? The best lineup we've ever seen in our lives,

847
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: Kevin Pilar Mets legend and Von Grissom future left fielder,

848
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: Like that is who you have up? Von chrism hasn't

849
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: had that bad in months? Why is he hitting right now?

850
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: I understand, like you're trying to get every change you

851
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: can get. Two advtages early in the game, but then

852
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 2: you come to the end of it and you've left

853
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: that situation for your ball club. It's unbelievable.

854
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: No, it's uh listen, it's not not the best thing

855
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: that's happened this year. But the Braves getting knocked out

856
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: this earlier, the way that they did, being embarrassed on

857
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: the national stage brings a smile to my face brings

858
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: a smile to my face, especially because, like you know,

859
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: it's just it's just nice. It's just nice. In the

860
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: year that think go our way that doesn't go their

861
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: way either. I would really hope though, that the Diamondbacks

862
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: can can do us a big favor. Here go Snakes.

863
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be heading out to Arizona on Thursday to

864
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: go see the Diamondbacks or Phillies with James's friend and

865
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: friend of mine, Dalton. Shout out, Dalton, thanks for letting

866
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: me sleep on your couch. But yeah, excited to go

867
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: out to Arizona and go see the Snakes. Did not

868
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: win Game one. Zach Allen didn't look great. That's not

869
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: that's not good. It's not good. They need him, but

870
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: they did. They did bring it back a little bit

871
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: there where they ended up being a five to three game.

872
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: Would be great if they can knock the Phillies out though,

873
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: because I'd love to see a World Series that does

874
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: not involve anybody from the NLES not named the Mets.

875
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: No, but every year a team from the NLEST goes

876
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: to the World Series, So what are you gonna do?

877
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, just it just it felt like those two

878
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: teams were on different playing fields last night. The first

879
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: I think, I think it was the first pitch of

880
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: the games that gond through ninety three over the middle

881
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: to College warb when he hit a million feet, So

882
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, yeah, there goes that one.

883
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 2: Like I was like, I love the Gallon because Gallon

884
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: is such like a student of pitching and he's like

885
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: not a big guy. He doesn't throw hard. He has

886
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: really good shapes in all his pitches, so he's kind

887
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: of like this, he's like a little bit of he's

888
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: you know, he is, he's very he's very Aaronola, but

889
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: he throws fast balls in instead of singers and colors.

890
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: Like That's probably why I like him so much. He's

891
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: such a field pitcher. But its just to see him

892
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: get over match like that, Like the whole season is

893
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: on the line of Meryl Kelly now tonight, you guys

894
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: will know the results of it by now, But just

895
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: those that top of the order and the whole year,

896
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: which is kind of waiting for Coylee Schwarb when Trade Turner,

897
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: that and Bryce Harper alternate on Phillies basically spent seventy

898
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: percent of the season with not even three of those

899
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: guys not clicking together, almost never two and now that's

900
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: all three. It's just like, I don't already know. I

901
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: don't know what to do about them. I don't there's

902
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: really no solution. That's as good of a top three

903
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: he's you ever gonna see in the league. And they

904
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: proved it.

905
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm uh. I think this will be the last

906
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: time in this episode at least that I'll praise the

907
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: Philies here. But their vibes are absolutely immaculate. I will say,

908
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: did notice Scarce saying after Mets after the nlds, which listen,

909
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: they can say what they want. They're there, they're winning games.

910
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, there's maybe some bulletin board material

911
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: that could be used for the twenty twenty four season,

912
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: especially coming from Garrett Stubbs who is a backup catcher.

913
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: I think I think that's what plays. Not really he's

914
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: not like a mainstay in the Philadelphia Phillies. Garrett Stubs

915
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: isn't like, you know, been there very long either. But

916
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: it's just funny to hear the round their mind still,

917
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's just kind of like, yeah, they're still

918
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: thinking about those.

919
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: Still thinking about the Mets.

920
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also just just super shout out like the infrastructors

921
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: they've built there. Like John Milton is no knowner who

922
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: loves winning. He had a quote from June when the

923
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: team wasn't playing very well when he says, far as

924
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: I'm concerned, the only reason to own a sports team

925
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: is to win. And nobody gives a rats a word

926
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: shout out of you though, whether I make money or not.

927
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: They just care as fans about winning. So that in

928
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: June and then when they win the NLDS, he is

929
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: pouring beer in himself in the locker room, and he's

930
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: in the crowd cheering like in Citizens Bank, like like

931
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: behind home play, which is like he was thrown out balls, right,

932
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: I think he was thrown out balls to the fans

933
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: having a hell of a time. He just I mean

934
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: enjoying himself.

935
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: Winning is fun. Like you said, people only fans only

936
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: care about winning, and like I mean, shouts to the

937
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: Mets were trying their best. We're spending money just like

938
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: every other team that's doing well this year, which is

939
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: also cool to see that the teams are spent that

940
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: are spending money are pretty much the most successful teams

941
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: this year, which is good because when baseball spending money,

942
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: it's a better sport. It took a while to get

943
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: back around to that point, but now we are in

944
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: the spot where three of the four teams left are

945
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: all I think in the top seven or eight. And payroll, yeah,

946
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw the Rangers spend a ton of

947
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: money on their their middle and field and Seeger and

948
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: Simeon alone like that, and then you know a couple

949
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: pitchers that we also know of too.

950
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: I guess we'll close with this discussion quickly a five minutes.

951
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: We can get either y of here, but we talk

952
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: a lot about the Rangers and how good they are.

953
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: Every puff piece right now is going on about you know,

954
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: the manager, Bruce Bochi's standying the ship. And Bruce Bochi

955
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: has done a great job as a manager, especially for

956
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: a team that completely looked like they were falling apart

957
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: in the second half. Up until the second week of September,

958
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: it felt like they were going to miss the playoffs.

959
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: They had an eight game losing streak in the second half,

960
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: and it mixed in with like seven straight series they

961
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: didn't win, which of course was broken by the Mets.

962
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: That was still then followed by another series lost to

963
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: the Twins, and then a sweep at the hands of

964
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: the Astros to drop them to like their season low

965
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: seventy six and sixty four. After they again lost another

966
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 2: game to the A's. After that, it felt like everything

967
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: was falling apart. And then again, this is credit I'll

968
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: guess brus Bocci, because then they did. I wind up

969
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 2: going to Seattle sweeping them in a series that changed

970
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: the whole season. Like if that goes the other way,

971
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: like this could be the Seattle Mariners in this spot

972
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: and not the Texas Rangers. But for team like the

973
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: Rangers that went out spend a ton of money both

974
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: on their internal processes and the players on the field,

975
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: giving the what five hundred mil to Semion and Seeger,

976
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: who are both lights out. Seeger himself had generational season

977
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: going out getting Jordan Montgomery at the deadline, even after

978
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: acquiring Max Scherzer from the Mets, being like, no, it's

979
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: not enough, we still need another pitcher, letting rid of

980
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: letting lose Cole Wagans, who wound up being one of them,

981
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: the market pitchers of the entire second half. Like if

982
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: they had him, they'd be steamer like everybody right now,

983
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: which is really funny to think about. And then also

984
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: we've talked about in the past, like hired Darren william

985
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: the Curator, the creator Baseball Savant to run their player development,

986
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: hiring Donnie Ecker from the Giants to be their hitting coordinator.

987
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: Now he's their bench coach. Just the Greek god of

988
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 2: barrels can He's got this entire lineup like every single

989
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: moment is hitting the crap out of the ball. Joonah

990
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: him is a world beither. Hes a guy who has

991
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: swung a pool move for the first few years of

992
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 2: his career. If you guys want to talk about like

993
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: how much coaching can really help a guy. It's great

994
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: to see a team that had the plan execute it.

995
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: And if the plan really worked and Jacob grod maxchers

996
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: were healthy right now, they would be a juggernaut, all

997
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: juggernauts with no one even close to getting in their way.

998
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, as someone who's rooting for the Rangers in this series,

999
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: just because I like their vibes, like their field. We've

1000
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: seen the Astros plenty of times and that's fine. Yeah,

1001
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be funny to see Maxtuers would break my

1002
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: heart again when he gets he's gonna get smoked in

1003
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: Game three.

1004
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: I know it's gonna happen. I don't think he's gonna

1005
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: use the traditional start. They haven't really, They've been kind

1006
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: of tight looked about it. I think he's gonna be

1007
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: more of a weapon than a starter, which I think

1008
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: that would be better for him right now, because I

1009
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: just I don't know. If folds out two by season

1010
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: ninety two mile in our fastball flow aross the top

1011
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: of the zone, He's probably gonna hit it really far.

1012
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: Fjord On Alvarez season ninety two mile an hour fastball

1013
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: like guys, but literally playing out of his mind. It's

1014
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: it's super tough to talk about him in terms of

1015
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: the best players of baseball because he is just a

1016
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: DH at the end of the day. But in terms

1017
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: of sheer hitting. Is he the best hitter in baseball?

1018
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: It's hard for me not even still say Jodge after

1019
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: last season, just because it was that good. But like,

1020
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: I think he's definitely one or two between those two guys.

1021
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to left him taking you or on.

1022
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely the best left handed hitter in baseball.

1023
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: Like he's so crazy. Even the second home run he

1024
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: hit off a Chapman, which couldn't happen to a better guy,

1025
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: Like the fact that it wasn't even a bad pitch.

1026
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: It was like low and outside and he just hooked

1027
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: it three hundred and eighty feet to right field, Like

1028
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: he is so incredibly strung.

1029
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: He's played.

1030
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: He had a flu game and he hit two home runs.

1031
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: Flu game, two home runs from jord On Alvarez. They

1032
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: still lost, so it doesn't really matter, but he's so good.

1033
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: That was a big glaze piece this morning on the

1034
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: Athletic there was like jord and Alvarez dragging the Astros

1035
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: with an upset stomach. Whe It's like they're they're they're

1036
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: down two hours. I don't know. But also Shotton di Casiangos,

1037
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 2: the second player in the history of baseball have five

1038
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: home runs in a three game post season span.

1039
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's been on fire. He's been been great.

1040
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: We got a lot of baseball left obviously, NLCS ALCS

1041
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: two gaate or one game for the NLCS, two games

1042
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: in the ALCS tonight or when you guys are listening

1043
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: to this, you'll know what the series looks like in

1044
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: terms of game two for the NLCS Ghost Snakes. Also

1045
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 1: a shout out our friend Ernie's doorman, Eric, Right, James,

1046
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: I think you get a little running Yeah.

1047
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: Maybe he just always loves the podcast. Wanted to go

1048
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: hang out friend Ernie watching football and he was like,

1049
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: hey man, best He just said favorite podcast ever, Like

1050
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: best podcast in the world. I was like, nice, that's

1051
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: really awesome.

1052
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: Nice.

1053
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sunday morning. That's really great. Thank you.

1054
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: So shout out Eric and anything else to talk about

1055
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: here or is it time to wrap it up?

1056
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: I think we got them all. Was that clean forty five?

1057
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: I like it clean forty five Ghost Snakes. Thank you

1058
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: guys for listening, Thank you for watching. Uh Follow us

1059
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: on our social media at Mets up on Twitter, Instagram,

1060
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: and TikTok. Subscribe to the New York Mets YouTube channel

1061
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,160
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1062
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: you're listening Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Odyssey, drop us a rating,

1063
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: drop us a review, download and subscribe. Follow James on

1064
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: Twitter at James Underscore and me Draftnick Mark with a C.

1065
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening and watching, and we will

1066
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: catch you next week for another episode World Series Talk.

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Speaker 1: I guess by then, so uh yeah, see you guys,

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Speaker 1: bite you guys.

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Speaker 2: See you next time.