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Speaker 1: As we get around the roster.

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Speaker 2: Brandon, I don't realize that every draft pick has hindsight.

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Speaker 3: I want to go back to tw twenty twenty two

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Speaker 2: Everybody was screaming, you guys needed an offensive tackle externally,

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Speaker 2: probably internally too, right. How much of that do you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, when you talk about building

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Speaker 2: I know, Joe says he goes back and looks at

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Speaker 1: And I think that's part of you know, Joe's mindset

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Speaker 3: And then we vetted you. Ah, charl what have you

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