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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Arm

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<v Speaker 1>Strong and Getty and no Key, I'm Strong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>We heard from Zelenski suggesting the meeting of being productive,

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<v Speaker 2>that it would indeed touch upon it had indeed touched

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<v Speaker 2>upon that rare earth minerals deal again, trying to suggest

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<v Speaker 2>I think Ukraine wants to move forward and finding a

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<v Speaker 2>compromise there as well. And indeed they discussed some of

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<v Speaker 2>the elements of piece here, potentially security guarantees, the return

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<v Speaker 2>of prisoners of war.

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<v Speaker 3>You have Special Envoy Keith Kennog meeting with Zelensky amid

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<v Speaker 3>this blistering public feud Ukraine insisting the meeting went well

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<v Speaker 3>and a new deal over mineral resources is on the table.

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<v Speaker 3>Zelenski is saying Ukraine is ready for a just and

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<v Speaker 3>lasting piece.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of reports from CNN and ABC about the

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<v Speaker 4>ongoing talks and the war in Ukraine references to some

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<v Speaker 4>of the to my mind insane things Donald Trump has

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<v Speaker 4>said recently, and we'll be getting to that in a moment.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's interesting in scanning some of the emails you

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<v Speaker 4>good people have sent to mail bag at armstrong and

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<v Speaker 4>getty dot com and feel free anytime. All sorts of

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<v Speaker 4>people with different theories and or psychoanalyses of Trump and

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<v Speaker 4>Is saying that Ukraine started the war and Zelensky couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>could have ended it, and he's a dictator and unpopular

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<v Speaker 4>and the rest of it. If you think of it

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<v Speaker 4>from the goal of stopping the war, does it really

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<v Speaker 4>matter how he gets to the goal. He'll play the

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<v Speaker 4>villain or pithesides against against each other, whatever it takes

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<v Speaker 4>to get the win. The rest is just noise. He

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<v Speaker 4>reigns in chaos during the pot and unexpected ways. It

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<v Speaker 4>forces everyone out of their comfort zone, breaks down paralysis.

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<v Speaker 4>That's you know, that's a pretty good thought or two

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<v Speaker 4>from Ron. Thanks Ron, uh Paolo, Oh, whoops, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>different topic. This is Steve from Washington State. I fear

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<v Speaker 4>you've both forgotten the number one maximum concerning Trump. Take

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<v Speaker 4>him seriously, not literally. I believe Trump is appalled at

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<v Speaker 4>the human carnage you see. Zelenski is having to leverage

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<v Speaker 4>or utility in the upcoming negotiation with Putin being dismissive

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<v Speaker 4>of a Zelenski is useful in persuading Putin to come

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<v Speaker 4>to the table. It's not personal, it's business. Okay, that

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<v Speaker 4>could be. Please tell me this is seven dimensional chess,

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<v Speaker 4>writes Christine. Been listening daily for twenty five years. Thank you, Christine.

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<v Speaker 4>You must be a patient woman. I'm highly alarmed by

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's foreign policy right now. It really appears to be

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<v Speaker 4>pro Putin, anti Europe. He seems to have an unnatural

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<v Speaker 4>admiration for Putin some strange way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all nutty, working our way toward an absolutely brilliant

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<v Speaker 4>piece by one of my favorite historians and commentators, Douglas Murray,

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of things worth knowing. When Russia took over

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<v Speaker 4>a chunk of the eastern part of Ukraine, Luhansk, specifically,

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<v Speaker 4>they used Aukraine and dump truck to remove a monument

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<v Speaker 4>to the victims of the Haladomor, which you may not

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<v Speaker 4>have ever heard of. Way back in nineteen twenty I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty two and thirty three, Ukraine was not digging Stalin's

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<v Speaker 4>brutal totalitarian leadership of the Soviet Union, and the good

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<v Speaker 4>people in Ukraine were demanding reform and bristling under Stalin.

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<v Speaker 4>Stalin responded by starving at least three point.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine million Ukrainians to death.

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<v Speaker 4>Almost four million starved to death, horrific suffering. Cannibalism makes

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<v Speaker 4>North Korea look like you're your family barbecue in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of the available food and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>The desperation is. Just it was absolutely genocidal.

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<v Speaker 4>And when Putin claims there's no Ukraine, they've never had

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<v Speaker 4>a distinct identity or any They're just part of Imperial Russia,

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<v Speaker 4>and they need to remember that that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Utterly fictional and full of crap.

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<v Speaker 4>Ukraine has a very very strong identity, although they have

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<v Speaker 4>plenty of you know, cousinhood if you will, with Russia.

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<v Speaker 4>Plenty of Ukrainians live on that side of the border,

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<v Speaker 4>ethnic Ukrainians and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there.

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<v Speaker 4>Are ties, absolutely, but one of the main facets of

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<v Speaker 4>Ukrainian identity is we must never be dominated by Russia

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<v Speaker 4>because they don't give a crap about our people.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to lay that to rest. Also troubling to me,

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<v Speaker 1>really troubling.

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<v Speaker 4>Is this demand that train sign a minerals deal, not

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<v Speaker 4>that some deal isn't you know, reasonable, because part of

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<v Speaker 4>the strategy is we become such close friends with them

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<v Speaker 4>and and do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Much business with them.

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<v Speaker 4>Russia doesn't dare invade because they then they would be

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<v Speaker 4>invading our interests. So anyway, uh, the White House, White House,

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<v Speaker 4>literally it's it's said by a number of observers. Put

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<v Speaker 4>a deal on the table in front of Vladimir Zelensky

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<v Speaker 4>and told them sign it right now to hand mineral

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<v Speaker 4>rights worth hundreds of billions of dollars to the US.

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<v Speaker 4>And Zelensky said, look, I'm open to a deal, but

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<v Speaker 4>it needs more work and my people need to look

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<v Speaker 4>at it.

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<v Speaker 1>And and it was like being in a pushy car dealer.

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<v Speaker 4>They said, no, you're going to sign this now, and

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<v Speaker 4>Zelensky said, no, oh, I'm not. And that is one

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<v Speaker 4>of the reasons Trump started going off on his high

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<v Speaker 4>rades about Zelensky and saying things that were ridiculously untrue.

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<v Speaker 4>You can defend that style of negotiating if you're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about building a golf course in Scotland or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I suppose I think it's unconscionable in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do. It's awful, and it's not just morally awful.

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<v Speaker 4>It damages the US is standing in a way that's

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<v Speaker 4>completely unnecessary because The truth is, you need friends, and

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<v Speaker 4>you especially need friends across the long term. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think this is productive at all. But having said that,

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<v Speaker 4>let's move on to the great Douglas Murray, along with

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<v Speaker 4>Neil Ferguson, one of our favorite conservative historian slash writers

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<v Speaker 4>thinkers around here, and Douglas Wrights. It's been a dizzy,

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<v Speaker 4>disorienting week in an international diplomacy mentions the situation. Trump

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<v Speaker 4>is absolutely right in wanting to end the bloodshed in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 4>The suffering has been appalling in the stalemate, brutal, But

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<v Speaker 4>in the furious mix of wild opinions this week from

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<v Speaker 4>the White House down, there are at least ten truths

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<v Speaker 4>that every American voter must hang on to and Trump's

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<v Speaker 4>rush down the bloodshed. These are also the truths against

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<v Speaker 4>which any deal will be judged and which will define

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<v Speaker 4>him when the history books are written.

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<v Speaker 1>To ignore them or not treat them with the.

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<v Speaker 4>Gravity they deserve will also have enormous consequences for decades

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<v Speaker 4>to come. And if you do not know Douglas Murray,

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<v Speaker 4>you should know that he is brilliant and incredibly knowledgeable,

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<v Speaker 4>an absolutely not a never Trump type.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the last thing he is truth number one.

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<v Speaker 4>Vladimir Putin started this war, despite what Trump said days ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and he goes through the history of it. There is

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<v Speaker 4>no rational narrative outside of Russian propaganda that blames aggressive

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<v Speaker 4>actions by Ukrainian President Vladimir's Zelenski or NATO that can

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<v Speaker 4>justify such a military action, the massive invasion of Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 4>and this came after Putin had already seized Crimea in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty fourteen, folks, that's eleven years ago, going on and

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<v Speaker 4>launched a war in the dnbas in eastern Ukraine. That

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't include the other wars he started, like against the

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<v Speaker 4>tiny nation of Georgia in two thousand and eight. Trump

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<v Speaker 4>is absolutely right that the war never had to start.

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<v Speaker 4>Murray writes, I believe it is true that it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>have started if he had been in the Oval office.

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<v Speaker 4>I would agree, But it was Putin, not Zelenski, who

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<v Speaker 4>started the war. You know, I would add on if

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<v Speaker 4>there were there some missteps or could NATO have handled this,

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<v Speaker 4>that or the other better through the years, Yes, but

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't justify a full scale invasion of Ukraine. And

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<v Speaker 4>there's just absolutely no question that truth number two is true.

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<v Speaker 4>Russia is fighting for conquest. The Russian Federation invaded Ukraine

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty two. Whatever you think of the country

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<v Speaker 4>or it's leader, Ukraine is an internationally recognized sovereign nation.

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<v Speaker 4>Putin invaded in the hopes of devouring the country wholesale.

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<v Speaker 4>By contrast, Ukraine has absolutely no territorial ambitions in Russia.

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<v Speaker 4>And remember the brutality of Russia's actions. Among the multitude

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<v Speaker 4>of depravities and war crimes committed by Putin's army has

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<v Speaker 4>been the abduction of some twenty thousand Ukrainian children. Who

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<v Speaker 4>wants to live in a world where the strong can

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<v Speaker 4>simply devour the weak and kidnap little children by the thousands,

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<v Speaker 4>Why hasn't the US put their release at the top

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<v Speaker 4>of the list of negotiating demands. Truth number three, Ukraine

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<v Speaker 4>is fighting for its independence. Most Ukrainians do not want

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<v Speaker 4>to be part of Russia. They do not want to

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<v Speaker 4>be gardened from Moscow. The vast majority want to live

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<v Speaker 4>in an independent, sovereign country in control of its own future.

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<v Speaker 4>Truth number four, Ukrainians are not Russians. Ukrainians and Russians

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<v Speaker 4>are not one people, a single whole. As Putin wrote

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<v Speaker 4>in a twenty twenty one essay. He is also simply

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<v Speaker 4>lying in his assertion that modern Ukra is entirely the

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<v Speaker 4>product of the Soviet era. Ukrainians and Russians are two

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<v Speaker 4>separate ethnic groups. They speak different languages and have distinct histories.

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<v Speaker 4>Truth number five. Putin is a dictator. He has ruled

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<v Speaker 4>Russia with an iron KGB fist since coming to power

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<v Speaker 4>in nineteen ninety nine. He has ruthlessly quashed independent media,

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<v Speaker 4>ended free in fair elections, crushed civil society, and killed

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<v Speaker 4>his political opponents. And not just inside Russia but around

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<v Speaker 4>the world. People who live inside Russia and express any

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<v Speaker 4>opposition of the war are imprisoned. Truth number six Zelensky

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<v Speaker 4>is not a dictator, a political outsider. Zelensky won the

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<v Speaker 4>twenty nineteen presidential election, which was relatively free and fair.

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<v Speaker 4>As I've said many times, the transition from Soviet republic

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<v Speaker 4>to Western style democracy is a bumpy one. In every

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<v Speaker 4>single case, it's unavoidable. It takes a while to root

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<v Speaker 4>out the Soviet style garbage and corruption. Anyway, Douglas Murray,

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<v Speaker 4>the Great Douglas Murray rites. He has a fifty seven

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<v Speaker 4>percent approval rating, not the four percent Trump claim. Unlike

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<v Speaker 4>in Russia, Ukraine has vibrant, independent media. Mostly there are

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<v Speaker 4>some flaws there, but it is wartime too anyway. Despite

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<v Speaker 4>claims to the contrary by Internet swamp creatures and Russian bots,

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<v Speaker 4>many Ukrainians freely criticize the government's conduct of the war

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<v Speaker 4>in spite of the imperfections of Ukrainian media. This is

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<v Speaker 4>me talking about Douglas Murray. Yeah, you're absolutely allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>criticize the conduct of the war. You get put in

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<v Speaker 4>jail in Russia for doing the same thing. When Britain

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<v Speaker 4>was fighting for its survival against the Nazis in the forties,

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<v Speaker 4>it too did not hold elections. The Russian ambassador to

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<v Speaker 4>the UK spent yesterday crowing that he's not sure Zelenski

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<v Speaker 4>would be reelected if there are elections today. But we

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<v Speaker 4>all know one thing for sure, whether or not Zelensky

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<v Speaker 4>would be re elected in Ukraine. Putin will always be

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<v Speaker 4>re elected in Russia because his elections are conjobs. Pageant

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<v Speaker 4>shows Putin has not won a free and fair election

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<v Speaker 4>in his life because he doesn't hold them. Or we'll

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<v Speaker 4>squeeze in one more here and then finish up on

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<v Speaker 4>the other side of the break truth Number seven, Russia

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<v Speaker 4>is not a friend of the US. It is a hostile,

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<v Speaker 4>nuclear armed state that resents American power in the world

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<v Speaker 4>that the US has built. It has ever closer relations

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<v Speaker 4>with China, Iran, and North Korea. In fact, all of

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<v Speaker 4>its main friends are countries that are the biggest foes

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<v Speaker 4>of America. Now, you could argue that if we altered

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<v Speaker 4>our policy toward the war or toward Moscow, we might

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<v Speaker 4>pull them back somehow or to some extent from their

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<v Speaker 4>friendship with the access of a holes. It's a thought

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<v Speaker 4>worth exploring. But for now, there's just no question Russia

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<v Speaker 4>is not our friend or anything close to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Three more of these truths you must never forget.

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<v Speaker 4>On the other side of the break, stay with us

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<v Speaker 4>if you can't grab the podcast later Armstrong and Getty

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<v Speaker 4>on demand coming up next segment, something completely different. We're

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<v Speaker 4>going to talk to long time a friend of the

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<v Speaker 4>Armstrong and Getty Show and tax advisor Steve Moskowitz about

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on tax wise last year and this year

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<v Speaker 4>and what people ought to know. And it's just some

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<v Speaker 4>great tax tips. So of stay tuned. That's next segment.

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<v Speaker 4>If you can't hang around, just grab the podcast later.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm strong and getting on demand. Right now, though, we're

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<v Speaker 4>working our way through the list of ten truths from

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<v Speaker 4>Douglas Murray's excellent column about the situation in Ukraine, and

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<v Speaker 4>he gives Trump credit for wanting to end the conflict,

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<v Speaker 4>which has been so horrifically bloody and is stalemated right now,

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<v Speaker 4>but is highly troubled by some of the untruths that

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<v Speaker 4>have been uttered by Trump and others, because going forward,

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<v Speaker 4>even if some of the wild rhetoric were to lead

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<v Speaker 4>somehow toward quote unquote solution, it's dangerous to run around

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<v Speaker 4>internalizing false pretenses, if you know what I mean, Because

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<v Speaker 4>the world's going to keep spinning and the challenges will

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<v Speaker 4>continue in that part of the world, guaranteed, and you

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<v Speaker 4>really ought to know what's what anyway. So truth number

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<v Speaker 4>eight from Murray, Ukraine is a friend of the US.

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<v Speaker 4>Ukraine wants to be part of the American led order.

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<v Speaker 4>Its people in government are deeply pro American. Since the

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<v Speaker 4>start of the Russian invasion, the Ukrainian men and women

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen fighting at the front lines are fighting

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<v Speaker 4>the Russian military to protect their loved ones in their country.

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<v Speaker 4>They also do it in the knowledge that if they fail,

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<v Speaker 4>other countries will be next. Truth number nine, Putin cannot

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<v Speaker 4>be trusted. This isn't just a statement of fact, it

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<v Speaker 4>is also something that eighty one percent of American voters

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<v Speaker 4>agree on. Keep that in mind next time you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Russian bots and Internet trolls on the Internet. Trolls on

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<v Speaker 4>the Internet. Great sentence, Joe, convince you that, well, lots

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<v Speaker 4>of people think Putin is really a good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they don't, No, they don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Putin has invaded multiple countries in violation of every international treaty.

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<v Speaker 4>He has interfered in multiple elections in his nearest neighbors.

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<v Speaker 4>He has violated international agreements, including the IF Treaty with

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<v Speaker 4>the US. He has lied to American presidents and European

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<v Speaker 4>leaders his whole career. He has lied to Trump even

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<v Speaker 4>since Trump has been back in office. Most recently, Putin

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<v Speaker 4>promised that he wouldn't target Ukrainian energy official and facilities

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<v Speaker 4>and hadn't yet. Just this week he carried out a

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<v Speaker 4>massive Missilan drone strike against multiple energy facilities in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 4>It is almost as though Putin's word doesn't count for

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<v Speaker 4>very much and he doesn't care if you know it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true truth number ten American to Ukraine. American aid

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<v Speaker 4>to Ukraine, I should say, is not being wasted. No

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<v Speaker 4>one would argue that Ukraine is a country without corruption,

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<v Speaker 4>but that does not mean its people and sovereignty should

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<v Speaker 4>not be protected. We should also remember which country in

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<v Speaker 4>this war is truly corrupt. Russia is one vast kleptocratic

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<v Speaker 4>state led by Putin In, a small cartel of oligarchs

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<v Speaker 4>who have made themselves among the richest people on earth,

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<v Speaker 4>all while keeping most of the Russian population in a

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<v Speaker 4>state of poverty that would not be believed by most

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<v Speaker 4>of us in the West. Putting us this is me now,

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<v Speaker 4>putting aside that humiliating video Tucker Carlson made the lovely

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<v Speaker 4>grocery stores in Moscow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where all the super rich people are.

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<v Speaker 4>You go out into Rrussia, it's unbelievable poverty and oppression.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to Murray.

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<v Speaker 4>Putin and his cronies have been accumulating power and wealth

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<v Speaker 4>all their careers, and they will torture and kill anyone

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<v Speaker 4>who exposes this corruption. Remember his political opponent Alexi Navalni

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<v Speaker 4>and the lawyer serge A Magnitsky. It's easy to expose

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<v Speaker 4>corruption in Ukraine, but in Russia it is deadly. Besides,

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<v Speaker 4>according to the Department of Defense, some sixty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 4>out of one hundred and eighty three billion Ukraine has

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<v Speaker 4>been spent in America. It's money that has benefited American

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<v Speaker 4>workers and facilities.

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<v Speaker 1>The war has also degraded the military one of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Most despotic regimes in the world, and it's sent a

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<v Speaker 4>strong deterrent message to China, Iran and North Korea not

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<v Speaker 4>to do the same. You can criticize Zelensky, complain, but

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<v Speaker 4>we should be under no illusions about who started this

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<v Speaker 4>fire and who the true dictator or villain of this

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<v Speaker 4>tragic tale is, well, said Douglas Murray. Next, as I said,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to talk about taxes, tax tips, waste, save

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<v Speaker 4>you money, ways to reduce your headaches and stress with

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<v Speaker 4>our longtime friend Stephen Moskowitz, among other things, also a

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<v Speaker 4>very funny hockey story. After the big tournament wrapped up,

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<v Speaker 4>stay with us Armstrong and Getty. Let's talk taxes, enough

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<v Speaker 4>global conflict something we can all use. A conversation with

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<v Speaker 4>longtime friend of the Armstrong and Getty show, Stephen Moskowitz,

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<v Speaker 4>who has advised us on tax Stuff Forever, founder and

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<v Speaker 4>tax attorney for Moskowitz l LP.

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<v Speaker 1>Steven joins us. Now, Steve, how are you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm fantastic, and you know I'm happy because I get

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about that, and you know I mean that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just gonna say, I'm gonna embarrass Steve and

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<v Speaker 4>tell the folks this. I have known professional musicians, athletes,

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<v Speaker 4>all walks of tech, guys, all walks off and I've

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<v Speaker 4>never known anybody who's more their jobs than you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Steven. You love helping people deal with taxes, sincerely, I

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<v Speaker 1>love it.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's so much in the taskl There's so many

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<v Speaker 5>hidden gems. I have everything from all walks of life.

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<v Speaker 5>Whether we can tell you how you can deduct your

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<v Speaker 5>multimillion dollar yacht to your struggling and how the government

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<v Speaker 5>will give you money to help you take care of

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<v Speaker 5>your kids, and everything in between. For example, I have

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<v Speaker 5>a question for you, because I told you that you

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<v Speaker 5>could go on a two week vacation anywhere in the

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<v Speaker 5>world you choose, some stranger would pay for it, and

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<v Speaker 5>the money the stranger gives you is tax free. How

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<v Speaker 5>would you like that?

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<v Speaker 1>When can I leave?

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<v Speaker 5>He said? Oh my god, what is Steve talking about?

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm talking about Internal Revenue Code Section to eighty

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<v Speaker 5>a g like Armstrong and Geddy, also known as the

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<v Speaker 5>Augusta rule. And what happens with that. You can rent

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<v Speaker 5>year home for up to fourteen days a year and

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<v Speaker 5>there's no tax on it. So the bottom line is

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<v Speaker 5>in that home can be the mansion you live in,

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<v Speaker 5>the studio apartment you rent, or a boat. And I'll

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<v Speaker 5>explain that separately, but the bottom line is supposed. For example,

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<v Speaker 5>he said, okay, I'm going to rent my place out

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<v Speaker 5>for one thousand dollars a day, and now everything is

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<v Speaker 5>so many people like renting a home instead of a hotel.

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<v Speaker 5>So the bottom line is you go ahead, and let's

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<v Speaker 5>assume that you rented your house four one thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 5>a day, so it's fourteen thousand dollars. You go off

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<v Speaker 5>to Hawaii, you spend ten thousand on your trip. That

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<v Speaker 5>fourteen grand that you got is tax free. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>even go on your tax return. It's excluded from income.

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<v Speaker 5>That's just an example of one of the many, many,

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<v Speaker 5>many hidden gems in our tax law. And glad people say, well,

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<v Speaker 5>why should there be such things because our legislators and

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<v Speaker 5>their infinite wisdom thinks this is good for the economy

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<v Speaker 5>or the business, or there's some special interest that pushed them.

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<v Speaker 5>But the bottom line is this law is for everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>All the laws are for everybody. We're all equal under

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<v Speaker 5>the law. And the bottom line is you just have

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<v Speaker 5>to know where these gems are hidden. Because there's two

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<v Speaker 5>reasons for the tax code wants to get money from us.

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<v Speaker 5>But the other one if you give us all kinds

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<v Speaker 5>of incentives like this, mister Will, what a deal, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>think about it. You're off on vacation anyway. The Airbnb's

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<v Speaker 5>is so popular and you get fourteen days tax free.

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<v Speaker 5>So you can see why I get so excited over

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<v Speaker 5>these things.

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<v Speaker 4>Love it so hey, we are happy to have so

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<v Speaker 4>many small business people, entrepreneurs, go getters listening to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Also slackers like myself. But what do you.

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<v Speaker 4>See small business people either failing to take advantage over

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<v Speaker 4>getting wrong? What advice would you give them? Just right

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<v Speaker 4>off the bat.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, the first one is a retirement plan. There's over

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<v Speaker 5>twenty different types of plans. You can have multiple plans

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<v Speaker 5>in the same year, and you can put away so

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<v Speaker 5>much by there's for benefits to that. One. You pay

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<v Speaker 5>less taxes. Usually when I'm talking to a client, people

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<v Speaker 5>say sign me up, Steve, You've got me say taxes.

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<v Speaker 5>Besides that, the money sits in your plan and the

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<v Speaker 5>income doesn't fit tax wells in the plan, so no brainer.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything grows faster and bigger if there's no taxes on it. Also,

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<v Speaker 5>it's exempt from lawsuits, so take a level. But I

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<v Speaker 5>hate to mention his name. Suppose you take a look

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<v Speaker 5>at OJ Simpson who had a multimillion dollar judgment against

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<v Speaker 5>him for many, many years, and he never lost a

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<v Speaker 5>penny off his pension. So that's good when you're in business,

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<v Speaker 5>so you don't have to worries to take it away

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<v Speaker 5>from you. And most tax planning you have to write

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<v Speaker 5>to check by December thirty first twenty four to deduct

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<v Speaker 5>it in twenty four. But with most of the pensions,

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<v Speaker 5>not all of them, but most of them, you have

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<v Speaker 5>up to the time of filing your returns, including extension,

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<v Speaker 5>which in English means depending on your business entity, you

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<v Speaker 5>could have as late as October fifteenth, twenty five to

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<v Speaker 5>set up the plan, fund it and still deduct it

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<v Speaker 5>from the previous year. Twenty four and that there's all

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<v Speaker 5>kinds of things in here. So for example, if you're

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<v Speaker 5>in a pension, there's no okay, everybody knows about four

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<v Speaker 5>one ks and Irish and all that, but there's all

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<v Speaker 5>kinds of additional plans. Is what I call the fancy plans,

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<v Speaker 5>which you can put in much much more money, and

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<v Speaker 5>they're based on your age, your earnings. There's an actuarial

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<v Speaker 5>evaluation ticket. But people can put away a tremendous way

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<v Speaker 5>more than this. But when we talk about putting things away,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody should have a pension plan. Everybody should put that away.

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<v Speaker 4>So well, I was just going to say, and that

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<v Speaker 4>includes I, like, I'm my only employee, I'm a sold proprietor,

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<v Speaker 4>I can have a pension plan for myself.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, absolutely absolutely, And again with retirement plan, there's so

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<v Speaker 5>much in there. For example, suppose you say, well, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what, I'm listening to the show today, but I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit older and you know I haven't had

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<v Speaker 5>the money in there. Well, there's something called a ketchup plan.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're over fifty, you can put in bigger deductions.

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<v Speaker 5>And our legislators, in their infinite wisdom and get this

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<v Speaker 5>if you're sixty, sixty one, sixty two, or sixty three.

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<v Speaker 5>Only those ages you have a super catchup plan this

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<v Speaker 5>beginning this year. In twenty twenty five, you put it

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<v Speaker 5>even more. The bottom line is there's so much here,

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<v Speaker 5>And then what about taking money out of plans? He said, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>you know I need the money, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to get hit with that penalty. There's all kinds of

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<v Speaker 5>exceptions to that. If you're a victim of domestic abuse,

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<v Speaker 5>you can take money out without the penalties. If you

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<v Speaker 5>need it for emergency purposes, you can take it out

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<v Speaker 5>without penalties. If you take it out because of federally

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<v Speaker 5>declared disasters, think about O the wildfires in California, let's

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<v Speaker 5>mention Hawaii and other places, you can take it out

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<v Speaker 5>without penalty. If someone's terminally ill. And also a not

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<v Speaker 5>to are firefighters. If they're age fifty or with twenty

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<v Speaker 5>five years of service, they can take it out without penalty.

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<v Speaker 5>I should go on and on and on, but there's

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<v Speaker 5>just so much here for everybody, and whether you know,

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<v Speaker 5>with being a small business owner, this is just the

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<v Speaker 5>troumendous say. I get so excited over this, but if

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<v Speaker 5>you're in business. There are so many benefits to you

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<v Speaker 5>just it's incredible, and it's all kinds of things. For example,

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to me says, you know, I'd like to have

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<v Speaker 5>an electric vehicle. Well, guess what, you know the government

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<v Speaker 5>will give you seventy five hundred bucks. And you say, well,

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<v Speaker 5>that's nice. I can go ahead and take seventy five

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<v Speaker 5>hundred dollars off my tax return, right you can. But

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<v Speaker 5>even better, when you're at the dealer, you say, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what, there's a special program where I can say

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<v Speaker 5>to the dealer, I'll give the credit to you. You

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<v Speaker 5>knock seventy five hundred bucks off the price, so I

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<v Speaker 5>never have to give you the money and ask for

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<v Speaker 5>it back. You get the seventy five hundred from the government.

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<v Speaker 5>There's so much, so much there. Then there's another thing

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<v Speaker 5>that gets me really excited, something called opportunity zones. Suppose

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<v Speaker 5>you have this situation. You sell something anything, some gold coins,

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<v Speaker 5>some stop, real property, anything, and you have capital gain

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<v Speaker 5>and you say, well, all right, you know, I realize

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<v Speaker 5>that there's three capital gains rates zero. It's a nice one,

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<v Speaker 5>but you have to be making less than forty seven

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<v Speaker 5>grand for that or fifteen percent, which is between forty

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<v Speaker 5>seven grand and over just half a mil. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>most people are making under half of MIIL fifteen percent bad,

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<v Speaker 5>and it goes to twenty percent if you're over five

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and eighteen thousand. But the bottom line is you say,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I don't want to pay that either. So

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<v Speaker 5>you can go into an opportunity zone and you can

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<v Speaker 5>defer the taxes until twenty six. As you say, when

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<v Speaker 5>somebody gives you something nice, what do you say thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course no, you say more.

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<v Speaker 5>I want more. And what happens is there's a provision

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<v Speaker 5>with these opportunities zone. Suppose I do this. Suppose what

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<v Speaker 5>is an opportunity zone. There's designated areas in our country

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<v Speaker 5>where the government says, invest here and we'll give you

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<v Speaker 5>special tax benefits. And there's a tremendous number of them.

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<v Speaker 5>So you go ahead and do that. And let's assume

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<v Speaker 5>that you buy a real property for a million bucks.

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<v Speaker 5>Ten years later you sell it for one hundred million.

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<v Speaker 5>You've made a gain of ninety nine million. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I can calculate the tax on that right now in

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<v Speaker 5>my head, you know, the taxes zero. What Steve Wait

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<v Speaker 5>talking about there's a special provision that if you hold

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<v Speaker 5>this property for more than ten years, when you sell it,

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<v Speaker 5>there's zero capital game. There's no cap one. So in

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<v Speaker 5>my example, you made a profit of ninety nine million bucks,

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<v Speaker 5>you paid zero taxes. Talk about an incentive. So you see,

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<v Speaker 5>that's why I get get so excited about this and

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<v Speaker 5>our laws filled with these things.

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen Moscowitz, founder of Tax Atturning moscow ats LP, is

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<v Speaker 4>online longtime tax advisor of the show and our friends. So, Stephen,

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<v Speaker 4>in a couple of minutes, we have left what notable

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<v Speaker 4>changes to the tax code have happened recently or do

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<v Speaker 4>you expect to happen as the Trump administration gets gone.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think there's going to be a lot with

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<v Speaker 5>the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. When President Trump was

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<v Speaker 5>president in the first term, he had a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>stuff that was going to be basically he expected to

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<v Speaker 5>be re elected and he had a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 5>in the tax law that was expiring right after what

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<v Speaker 5>it was his second term. So it's expiring now they're

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<v Speaker 5>probably going to make changes and keep a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>the things. And also so a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 5>have changed or the numbers, like the standard deduction went

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<v Speaker 5>up a little bit for twenty twenty four and a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of numbers. You know, for example, the art

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<v Speaker 5>didn't come credit. So we talked about the other end

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<v Speaker 5>of the scale. For example, suppose you have three kids

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<v Speaker 5>and you're making under sixty six eight nineteen. The government

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<v Speaker 5>will give you seven eight hundred and thirty dollars, but

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<v Speaker 5>is give them will give you the money, so you

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<v Speaker 5>have those things. There's also change to the kitty tax.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a small change for kids that are under age nineteen.

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<v Speaker 5>The first thirteen hundred bucks is tax free. The next

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<v Speaker 5>thirteen hundred bucks is taxed at the child's right. So

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<v Speaker 5>if it's a little something. Then the amounts for the

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<v Speaker 5>flexible spending accounts and the health savings accounts have gone up.

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<v Speaker 5>So what are those things? Basically, there are two different

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<v Speaker 5>types of accounts where you can put some pre tax

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<v Speaker 5>money and I don't get a tax, and then you

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<v Speaker 5>use it for healthcare. Now there's differences between them, so

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<v Speaker 5>with an exception, you can't have both. There's an exception,

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<v Speaker 5>but we won't get into that right now on the show.

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<v Speaker 5>But for the most part, you say, well, what's more

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<v Speaker 5>important to me, and you look at these and basically

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<v Speaker 5>the best way to do it is there are charts

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<v Speaker 5>and you say, okay, well, a flexible spending account, here's

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<v Speaker 5>the advantages. With the health savings account, here's the advantages.

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<v Speaker 5>But basically the idea here is you get a tax deduction,

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<v Speaker 5>you use the money for medical and isn't that nice?

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<v Speaker 5>You don't have to pay tax on that amount of

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<v Speaker 5>your earnings. And the bottom line, for example, with a

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<v Speaker 5>health savings account, you can triple benefits. There's no taxes

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<v Speaker 5>on the money you put it in, it grows tax free,

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<v Speaker 5>and there's no taxes when you use it for medical bills.

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<v Speaker 5>So again, I mean, you look at this stuff and

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<v Speaker 5>you say, well, okay, why shouldn't I have it? There's

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<v Speaker 5>so much in tax complaints about their taxes. My taxes

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<v Speaker 5>are too much, they're that, but people overlook all these benefits.

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<v Speaker 5>And again I'm just throwing out a few samples and teasers.

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<v Speaker 5>There's so much there. If you're interested in this. To me,

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<v Speaker 5>this has fascinated me my whole life, and it's here.

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<v Speaker 5>It's available for everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if you want to get in touch with Stephen,

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<v Speaker 4>his number is one triple eight tax deal. It's one

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<v Speaker 4>triple a tax deal. Stephen, It's always a pleasure. Thanks

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<v Speaker 4>for the time, interesting and fun as always be well.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks so much. I had a great time as always.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for inviting me all right.

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<v Speaker 6>Democrats are clinging to these radical, losing propositions. Democrats are

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<v Speaker 6>to listen to the will of the electorate, don't have

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<v Speaker 6>to follow the results of the will of the people

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<v Speaker 6>expressed through an election, but can do whatever they want.

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<v Speaker 6>Democrats are out there saying that we can and should

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<v Speaker 6>spend tens of billions of dollars on radical left programs

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<v Speaker 6>all over the world, in Bosnia, in Croatia, all throughout

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<v Speaker 6>the Confident of Africa, and everywhere else, but not here

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<v Speaker 6>in America.

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<v Speaker 7>Man, I'm telling the Democrats just sit there, play possum,

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<v Speaker 7>let them go, let them go. Poll numbers of decline,

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<v Speaker 7>and the collapse is already underway. Let's see when it

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<v Speaker 7>put the medicaid budget, when it put the tax to

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<v Speaker 7>four point five billion dollar trillion dollars, or tax cuts

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<v Speaker 7>to wealthy people. Just let the ball come to you.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't need to be aggressive now.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting, while he is full of crap, James Carville did

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<v Speaker 4>express something I've been saying lately, which is the frantic

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<v Speaker 4>objection to even the super popular stuff I don't get

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<v Speaker 4>it politically. I guess you need to do that to

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<v Speaker 4>raise money from your Internet base, which is ruined American

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<v Speaker 4>politics anyway. Interesting that James Carville, the Rage and Cajun

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<v Speaker 4>would say the Democrats need to play possum. I understand,

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<v Speaker 4>we have a story about a seal. Sorry, I was

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<v Speaker 4>reading and talking at the same time, Katie, Is there

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<v Speaker 4>anything we need to know about the seals story?

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<v Speaker 8>He's adorable and he had a grand old time in

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<v Speaker 8>the city of New Haven?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here's a report from NPC. I guess.

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<v Speaker 9>Police responding to a stranded gray seal pop in the

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<v Speaker 9>heart of New Haven, slopping more than thirteen hundred feet

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<v Speaker 9>through the city streets earlier this week and popping up

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<v Speaker 9>several times away from the water in the days before.

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<v Speaker 9>And while many joke the seal was chasing New Haven's

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<v Speaker 9>famous clam pizza, researchers explain.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that if I was trying to go atlant

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<v Speaker 5>to find the nice quiet area.

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<v Speaker 9>Now Mystic Aquarium is helping the youngster pack on the

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<v Speaker 9>pounds with a delicious diet of fish smoothie and of

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<v Speaker 9>course haring to help him prepare for the wild. While

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<v Speaker 9>the pup will eventually be returned to the ocean. His

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<v Speaker 9>place in America's heart is sealed.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, I don't get it. Oh wait, now I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh clam pizza.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's a weird one, right, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, although you know, I like creative, weird pizzas

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<v Speaker 4>I have for years and years and years.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, I don't know about clam pizza. I'm not hankering

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<v Speaker 1>for it. No, no, not a no.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>The noise at the beginning of that report is actually

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<v Speaker 8>the noise that the baby seal makes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like this where Yeah, okay, beautiful. What was I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>We learned last week two weeks ago during the One

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<v Speaker 4>More Thing podcast that sea otters are like Rapie and Murdery.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Should we be as affectionate towards the seals as

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<v Speaker 1>we are?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they're sea dogs. They are total sea dogs. Oh okay, yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 8>I love dogs. I'm willing to take on the sea

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<v Speaker 8>variety and give it an audition. So I promised to

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<v Speaker 8>a funny hockey story, and this is it. You might

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<v Speaker 8>enjoy this, Katie. So the NHL had this brilliant idea too.

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<v Speaker 8>The only reason we're talking about hockey. Is the NHL

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<v Speaker 8>had this brilliant idea that instead of their stupid All

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<v Speaker 8>Star game that nobody watches or cares about, they would

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<v Speaker 8>hold a fourteen tournament with players from four of the

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<v Speaker 8>major nations that supply players to the NHL, the US, Canada, Finland,

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<v Speaker 8>and Sweden.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Don't assume me if I wasn't wrong. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the idea, and it was a super big success.

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<v Speaker 1>The guys were playing for country.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like a mini Olympics, and the fans were

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely loving it. But anyway, my buddy was a great

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<v Speaker 4>hockey fan, former very elite hockey player. He was telling

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<v Speaker 4>me a story about one of his buddies that almost

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<v Speaker 4>caught out in the NHL.

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<v Speaker 1>Really really good player.

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<v Speaker 4>But he was hired to be an extra in a

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<v Speaker 4>movie about hockey and the director said, all right, we

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<v Speaker 4>need to have a fight now there's a hockey fight scene.

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<v Speaker 1>And the guy said, oh, we'll handle it.

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<v Speaker 4>And the director was like, well, we need to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about the choreography and the blah blah blah, and the

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<v Speaker 4>guy said, no, just show me where you want the shot,

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<v Speaker 4>and the director said, right there in the corner and

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<v Speaker 4>he went to his buddy. He said, Hey, Jimmy, we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go on the corner. I'll hit you with an elbow,

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<v Speaker 4>you push me, and we fight, okay, And so they

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<v Speaker 4>just went in the corner, dropped the gloves, beat the

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<v Speaker 4>hell out of each other. Great hockey fight scene and

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<v Speaker 4>cutt says the director, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They skate away. Hey, you got me with that uppercut.

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<v Speaker 1>That was good, man, that was really good. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a good fight.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, high five having pounded each other in the head

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<v Speaker 4>for the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hockey players. Oh, that's a hockey player.

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<v Speaker 4>Armstrong and Getty