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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick. That was fun last night. It took a while,

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Speaker 1: but that was fun. Welcome to the program, Dan and

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Speaker 1: the Dan x Dan Patrick Show will dive into Zion

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Speaker 1: love to see you all righty. Zion last night did

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Speaker 1: something that hasn't been done since the shot clock was

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Speaker 1: of things that stand out with Zion. And they started

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Speaker 1: to hear this from anybody else today. Alvin Jenty Gentry

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Speaker 1: I'm sure didn't want to come out. Now, he's eighteen

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Speaker 1: And of course I was a high flying dunker as

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Speaker 1: a poll question here, is it Zion Williamson related? Mik Lovin, No,

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Speaker 1: That would drive me nuts. Man. Eli's career four Pro

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Speaker 1: Dan Marino would win the seventy thirty because he's Dan Marino. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's recency biased too, because I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: people voting solved Dan Marino and really understood what Marino

425
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Speaker 1: was all about. Eli's retiring now, and he beat the

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Speaker 1: Patriots twice, so people may vote for Eli just because

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Speaker 1: he beat the Patriots twice. Yes. One interesting part of

428
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Speaker 1: it though, is that if you were to ask anybody

429
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Speaker 1: would you want Dan Marino as your quarterback? Everybody would

430
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Speaker 1: say yeah, yeah, right, there isn't a personal I would

431
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Speaker 1: be like, I don't know if I want that Marino

432
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Speaker 1: on my team. But if you asked that about Eli Manning, well,

433
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I might try somebody else, all right,

434
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Speaker 1: So that's the poll question. Now we started thinking about this,

435
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Speaker 1: does Eli Manning go into the broadcast booth? And remember

436
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Speaker 1: Peyton didn't want to do Monday Night Football. Didn't want

437
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Speaker 1: to be in the broadcast booth because he didn't want

438
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Speaker 1: to do a game where he had to be maybe

439
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: critical or analyze his brother's games. So now Eli is retired.

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Speaker 1: If I said you could have two Mannings or one Romo,

441
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Speaker 1: what do you have? Let's say same price. Hypothetically, I

442
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: can give you both Manning brothers, although Peyton would demand

443
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Speaker 1: more than Tony Romo. At a principle, if I can

444
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Speaker 1: get both Mannings or a Romo, if you're Monday Night's Football,

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Speaker 1: two Mannings or one room home. Oh hang up and Lisa, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Why why are Peyton and Eli better than just Peyton? Well,

447
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Speaker 1: I think it would be just the novelty of having

448
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Speaker 1: two brothers in there. We know that they hit each

449
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Speaker 1: other a lot. They're very, very funny together. Having shared

450
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Speaker 1: the stage with them at the Super Bowl a couple

451
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: of years ago, they're they're really funny, play off each

452
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: other really really well. If I'm CBS, I would keep Romo.

453
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Speaker 1: If I'm ESPN, I would go all in on the Mannings.

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Speaker 1: If you could do it, because you know, Disney's got

455
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Speaker 1: money here they don't, I mean, pay them for what

456
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: it's You can finally get that credibility from Monday night football,

457
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: that tune in factor, you know, having both of those

458
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Speaker 1: guys analyze the game. Even if you just said you

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Speaker 1: got Peyton on Monday Night, I mean, I think Peyton

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Speaker 1: would take what Tony has done and take it to

461
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Speaker 1: another level. Because my at least my thought process, if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have Peyton Manning do again, I would have

463
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Speaker 1: that camera from behind that follows the quarterback to the

464
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and let Peyton in real time tell

465
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: you what he sees layout play happens, and then he

466
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Speaker 1: comes back and then he gives you his analysis. I

467
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Speaker 1: think that that would be my approach if I had

468
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Speaker 1: Peyton manning in the broadcast booth. Peyton, I am maybe

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Speaker 1: Peyton still wants to be in the front office somewhere. Maybe,

470
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Speaker 1: and he's been successful. I'm sure he's very successful in business,

471
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: still doing commercials. He has that show on ESPN, ESPN plus,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what Eli wants to do. You know,

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Speaker 1: Eli's a different cat. You know, he doesn't go out

474
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Speaker 1: there and look for the publicity to spotlight. Peyton's good

475
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Speaker 1: at finding it and he's really good when he's in

476
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: that spotlight. Yeah. Point. You know Peyton's show on ESPN,

477
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: it's pure Peyton and the fact that he's in total

478
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Speaker 1: control of it. His focuses on him. No one's telling

479
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: him what to do, what to talk about, what to ask.

480
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: He's in control. If he goes into the Monday and

481
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Speaker 1: Football booth, he still is. You got the handcuffs on

482
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: yet a little bit as far as like, you know,

483
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Speaker 1: how much control you have to riff to do things? Oh,

484
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: he'd have total control control. What I'm saying is like

485
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: he can't travel the country and interview people for Monday Football. Yeah,

486
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: you're only gonna work for sixteen seventeen weeks. You know,

487
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: if he's traveling in the country for this, you know

488
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Speaker 1: Peyton's place and less. He enjoys that. I mean, it

489
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: seems like he enjoys these storylines and unearthing stories that

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Speaker 1: you know previously we hadn't heard of. Yeah, McLevin, while

491
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Speaker 1: you're at it, do you call Drew Brees and Tom

492
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Speaker 1: Brady if here ESPN. I don't see Tom Brady going

493
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Speaker 1: into the broadcast booth. I mean I would do a

494
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Speaker 1: drive by and say, hey, just out of respect, I'm

495
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Speaker 1: going to ask you if you're interested in doing this.

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees. I could see Drew doing that. I could. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he has political aspirations. I I

498
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: mean he's got little ones. I don't know, but I

499
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Speaker 1: could see where Breese would get in there and be

500
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Speaker 1: good at that. And that's why I always tell these

501
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Speaker 1: athletes or former athletes, if you get a great job,

502
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: hold on to the job. Jason Witten one ready for

503
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. He's gonna go to the Hall of Fame.

504
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: But he if it's in front of you, you have

505
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: to take it. And social media is different. You know,

506
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: for these guys in they're critiquing you. Used to be

507
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: he had to wait till Monday for Rudy Martski in

508
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: USA Today column to criticize you critique it. Now it's

509
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: it's in the moment. It's it's real time, it's live.

510
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: And that's hard because these guys are checking their social

511
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: media during the game and then all of a sudden

512
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: you broadcast in accordance to what social media is directing you.

513
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: And that, to me, you can't do that, can't. Yeah,

514
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: and do you think that's what makes Romo great is

515
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: that he's got this non traditional style that's very like

516
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: you said, a bucking Bronco. He doesn't seem to care

517
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: about what anyone thinks of what he's doing. He's playing

518
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: through and Jim Nance is helping him through it. I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine Jim nances on social media and Romo probably isn't.

520
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: You just do the game and then whatever happens after

521
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: the fact. Okay, you can decide if you want to

522
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: hear it, read it, see it. But if I'm the

523
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: ESPN and I could get both mannings, because that way

524
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: you might get Peyton to do it if he's going

525
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: to have Eli there, and Eli might do it if

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00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: Peyton's willing to do it. But you got to get

527
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Speaker 1: a play by play guy who's eight who doesn't get

528
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: out in front of this and try to be too analytical.

529
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Speaker 1: I think Joe Tessa tour is one of his main

530
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: problems I have with him is he gets out and

531
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: tries to be a little too analytical. And that's a

532
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: common theme for us because as a host, you want

533
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: to make it seem like or you want to let

534
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: people know you do know the sport that you're talking about.

535
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: You don't want to say why or how and have

536
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: people say, well, why would he say why or how

537
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: doesn't he know? You know? It's really that's a tough

538
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: thing to do to just lay out and let that person.

539
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: And Jim nance is really good at doing that. Jim

540
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: will just say, Tony, why are they doing this? Jim,

541
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure will know he's been around this, you know,

542
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: doing this for thirty years, forty years almost so. But

543
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: if I'm not ESPN and go after the Mannings, and

544
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna go after when they've already gone after Romo.

545
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: But if I'm Tony Romo and they stay at CBS

546
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: because you got you have a play by play guy

547
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: who is great at doing that, he has experienced. You

548
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: have a friendship there and those things. It's so it's

549
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: taken for granted that you just put people together and

550
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: they make magic. It's the people who are friends. Tariko

551
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: when he was with John Gruden, that was a great broadcast.

552
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: Sean McDonough and John Gruden not a great broadcast. And

553
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: you know why. And it's not because it's not Sean.

554
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's a negative on how he broadcast. He's

555
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: not friends with John Gruden. Tariko and John Gruden were friends,

556
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: are friends, and it sounded that way. Yeah, mclub. I

557
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: noticed last leg to bring it back to Zion that

558
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: Van Gundi, Breen and Jackson, those guys seem like best friends.

559
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean they're so laid back, almost to a detriment.

560
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: They're very chatty, like they just talk about dinner last

561
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: night a lot. Yeah, people have a problem with that

562
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: when they get a little too Hey, how about stick

563
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: to the game. I think they're very funny, those guys,

564
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: like there's respect and friendship there. And Breen is really

565
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: he's very very talented at getting in and getting out,

566
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: and that's so hard to do. Anybody who wants to

567
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: do play by play that ability to set up your partner,

568
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: you have to think all the time. I'm John Stockton.

569
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: That's it. I would I would tell anybody who wanted

570
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: to do that, just think of John Stockton. Every game

571
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: you do. Set up your teammates, and if you do that,

572
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: it'll be a great broadcast. Don't get out in front

573
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: of it because if you do, then your analysts will go, way,

574
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: what's he doing? Mice? He talking about the a gap here?

575
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, taking the top off of the muffin or

576
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: whatever it is. You know, you don't just just do

577
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's like down distance, you know, get the

578
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: names right and then and lay out and let your

579
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: analysts be great. Yeah. Pot. I like when they mentioned

580
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: like a defensive tackle, he's a three technique and they

581
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: don't care that the country has no idea what they're

582
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: talking about. There are things that are said during a

583
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: game and I go, I don't know what you're talking about. Yes,

584
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: I you know, I did Football Night in America for

585
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: a decade, Like, I don't know what you're talking about?

586
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: Him a gap responsibility. Yeah, yeah, is there a gap responsibility?

587
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it a gap with the a gap?

588
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, come on, guys, you lost me here,

589
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: all right? What did we solve over the first thirty

590
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: five minutes? Did we solve anything? We got a debate

591
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: with Eli Manning and Dan Marino if I said you

592
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: could have two Mannings or one Romo for your broadcast

593
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: both and Ziah and oh, by the way, Zion Willives

594
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: had had a great debut last night, and I thought

595
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: the Pelicans did the right thing. I gotta have And

596
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what his limit is going to be

597
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: on minutes, but I hope it's going to be. You know,

598
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: maybe it gets up to twenty five by the end

599
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: of the year. But look at this long term. If

600
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: you don't make the playoffs this year, that's okay, but

601
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: you have a playoff quality roster in my opinion, because

602
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be fun. I want to

603
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: see al Ingram and Zion work together. You know, maybe

604
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick at his age, is he back for one

605
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: more year. I think Lonzo was really developing into the

606
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: player that we thought he was going to be. You know,

607
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: they get a little more size in there, maybe a

608
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: rim protector and they're they're good, They're fun. Yeah. Pull

609
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: a couple of games coming up. The Pelicans versus the

610
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: Bucks Tuesday, February four, two days after the Super Bowl,

611
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: primetime TNT. That's a great one. Was very game before that, though,

612
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: when is the game before that? Because I can't imagine

613
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: Zion playing back to back games. Um, there's a Sunday

614
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: night game and then a Tuesday game. Okay, you better

615
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: sit him out for that Sunday game. Well then that's

616
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: that's Houston Rockets. But you want to see Greek freak

617
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: versus Zion. Yes, mcluban byway, sorry, that was day passed,

618
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: not Greeny on a call with a bank on the Yeah.

619
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Speaker 1: Someone pointed that out and Ronaldi was doing it. Had

620
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: to do some Popovitch interviews. Oh god, those haven't changed.

621
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: That's combat pay right there. I was totally random question.

622
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: How long is Popovitch gonna do this? It's weird to

623
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: see the b The Spurs is just a setup B

624
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: team in that scenario. Well, I thought they were going

625
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: to be in a rebuild and they would trade DeMar

626
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: de Rosen or LaMarcus Aldridge. But I you know, Pop

627
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: lost his wife, so I don't know if the basketball

628
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: job takes on a little bit more importance to him.

629
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what he wants. I don't know him.

630
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: I've been around his players and they all say the

631
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: same thing. It's like Belichick, Oh you'd love him, and

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Speaker 1: I go, yeah, I guess she go no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: waving me off. He goes, no, No, it's about the players.

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Speaker 1: Play of the day, lay day. Check this out fall. No,

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Speaker 1: let's beat the Zion. Oh he didn't take the fright now,

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Speaker 1: he's got it right way three again? No he got

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Speaker 1: that's the Pelican's radio network. Welcome to the Jungle. Zion

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Speaker 1: had seventeen consecutive points, finishing the game with twenty two.

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Speaker 1: He actually accounted for twenty one consecutive points because he

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Speaker 1: had assist on the other two baskets. There he was

681
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: four or four from three point range. Next game will

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Speaker 1: be against the Nuggets. It's the Pelicans second of their

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Speaker 1: That's another thing. Zion if he's going to keep you honest,

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00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: you know, with a three point shot now, and it

690
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a jumper out there. He doesn't

691
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: have to be Damian Lillard out there. It's just if

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00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: he can hit that shot. And even though it's a

693
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: said shot, because you're going to play off of him,

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00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: because you know that if he gets inside, it could be,

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00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, three point play. But when you have that shot,

696
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: you know Jannis didn't have it. He's getting it. Ben

697
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: Simmons doesn't have it, and maybe he never has that.

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00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: Imagine if Ben Simmons had that. I think Ben Simmons,

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00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, you have to honor the three point shot

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00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: with Ben, you don't. You don't even think about it.

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00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: You're almost you're saying go ahead today. I don't care.

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00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: If Zion can keep you honest and be respectable at

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00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: the three point line, wow, it's a huge, huge advantage

704
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: for him. We know what he can do. He's quick,

705
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: although he sort of floats like leban Bell would float

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00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: and then hit the hole. Zion sort of floats and

707
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: then he goes and he's so explosive. But there's a

708
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Speaker 1: lot of things to take away from that. It's just

709
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: don't take too much away from it. It's one game

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00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: and we get caught up in that and I want

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00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: to see how how does he feel today? Anybody who's

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00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: ever had surgery, first time, you play that next day,

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00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: you know, you ice it after the game, and then

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Speaker 1: I want to know how it feels, because that's that's

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Speaker 1: what the medical staff is going to ask him. How

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00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: does it feel? And then how many? How many? Are

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00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: you good? When do you start to increase his minutes?

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00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: Because this is a medical decision, not Alvin Gentry. The

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00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: medical staff said, no, he's done, but will we have

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Speaker 1: a chance to know he's done? And you got to

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Speaker 1: fight that urge and they did. They did that well

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00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: last night's at home. Those fans have been dying, they've

723
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: been starved for this, and you fought the urgin. You

724
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: did the right thing. And that is limited his minutes

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00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: until you're comfortable and he's comfortable. Yeah, if you're Alvin

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00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Gentry the coach of the Pelicans, do you look for

727
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: spots for him to for Zion to have an easy

728
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: night as opposed to those match what you want? For example,

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00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: they have a game against the Milwaukee Bucks in a week,

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00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: week and a half but the next night they have

731
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bulls. Those are two completely different teams and challenges.

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00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: Do you sit him against the tough team and let

733
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Speaker 1: him play and get run against the balls? And later

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Speaker 1: in season do you play him against the Lakers or

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00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: play him against the Warriors the night before? Do you

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00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: look for easy nights? I would look for easy nights,

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00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: But I don't know if there's pressure from the NBA

738
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: because how many musty TV games have we had this year?

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00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: Not many. I mean, if you get the Lakers against Zion,

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00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: the Greek freak against Zion, you know that's what you want,

741
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: That's what these networks have been hoping for. You're like,

742
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: we got to get a game that somebody really cares

743
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: about watching. I struggled to watch the seventy Sixers last time.

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00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: I think love it. It's it's tough, and I wonder

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00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: if your team has got a glass ceiling there that

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00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: I just wonder with him Beat and Ben, I just

747
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a weird mix with the seventy sixers.

748
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: They should be the best team in the East, should be.

749
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: But then I got a Miami team who plays hard

750
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: and plays together, and it feels like those pieces fit

751
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: better than the seventy sixers. Do you know the Raptors?

752
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: You know, Pascal Siakam, who would have thought a couple

753
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 1: of years ago if I said, hey, they're gonna lose Kawhi,

754
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: but they got a guy who is gonna fill that void.

755
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: And here's another thing. Can Fred van Vleet change his

756
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: name to Fred van Fleet? Please? I think he'd be

757
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: a star because it's just it's difficult on us broadcasters.

758
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: Fred ram Vleet, Fred van Fleet. See, it's just it's

759
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: so much quicker, you know who. I really like that

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Speaker 1: Fred van Fleet. You know, I really like that Fred

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Speaker 1: ram Vleet. Oh, what's his name? Fred van Vleet? Yeah,

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00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Paul if Jannis Tetha Kumbo was averaging four and two,

763
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: we'd never learned how to pronounce his name, and we'd

764
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: all be better off because it was. It took years. Yeah,

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00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: I just called Greek. I still don't know if I'm

766
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: it's like Shay Gilji Alexander, is it Gillie? And then

767
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: PAULI goes, you gotta get a nickname for him. He's

768
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a great player. I mean he's he's

769
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: really good. He's really good. No hyphenated school. I have

770
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: a problem with hyphenated player. I'd make an accept Look

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00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: at his numbers. I mean Oklahoma City. You know they

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00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: lose Paul George. They're like, okay, we're good. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to type in shake Gill get to Alexander. You should

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Speaker 1: see what I'm doing right now, Just go Shaye. He

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00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: didn't even get his first name right. Why I'm telling

776
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: you should have it. He's really he's he's good man,

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00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: He's good. Yeah, ask mclovin. So if you had to

778
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: trade one of these two players, Ben Simmons or Joel

779
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: if you're the Sixers, would you well, what am I

780
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: getting in return? Though? I got another them gigantic packet?

781
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: But what am I getting? What am I getting in return?

782
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, um, would you trade of them? But

783
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: if you had to build around one of those two,

784
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: I have to know more about Does it Embid want

785
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: to be great? And as strange as that may sound,

786
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if he wants to be great. I

787
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: think he likes being entertaining, but to be great this

788
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: has to be twelve months out of the year. Does

789
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: Ben want to be great? Can he be great? If

790
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: you don't have a shot, then that makes it a

791
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: whole lot tougher for me. Embid can do everything. Does

792
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: he want to do it? And does he want to

793
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: get better every year? And I don't know. There aren't

794
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: many players who put up those kind of numbers and

795
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: we still question if they want to be great? But

796
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: I every year I want to I want to see something.

797
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: I want to see growth. And I don't know if

798
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Embide wants to be great. And you know, do you

799
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: say to Ben Simmons, we got to get you somebody

800
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: who's going to help you. You know what I would do.

801
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: I'd get another left I get Chris Mullen. I'd hire

802
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: Chris Mullen, get another left hander who sees what you

803
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: see and then help you a little bit. Now there

804
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: are other great left handed shooters. But if you could

805
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: say to Chris Mullen, Chris, what would it cost for

806
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: three weeks out of the year in the summer where

807
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: you just work with Ben Simmons and all he does

808
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: is shoot jumpers? And Chris will go, We'll make me

809
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: the head coach. I don't do it. Yes, you're right

810
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: about Shay Gilgist Alexander, He's everging twenty and six. His

811
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: actual name is Chavante Asian Gilgist Alexander see it could

812
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 1: be worse, and his cousin is an in the league.

813
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: His name is Nikelle Alexander Walker also hypenated his cousin

814
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: placement New Orleans. Was he with Virginia tech Nickel Alexander

815
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: Walker Junior? The third? Yeah, he was good. He was good.

816
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: He's ever been six and two for I know my Pelicans,

817
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: you know my two favorite teams, Pelicans and the Grizzlies. Jah.

818
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: I love Jehan morand I love him. Why don't you

819
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: marry him? Fritzie says, how about Fred Van Threat? He

820
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: had a couple of big clutch ones in the fourth

821
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: quarter to put down Philly. Thank you Tom former team

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Speaker 1: of sea Dale three. I love Sadale three, Nick Levin

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Speaker 1: one of the poll results. So now it's fifty two

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Speaker 1: percent Marino over Elive, still close? All right? Okay, one

825
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: hour in the books, two more to go. It's actually

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Speaker 1: a trigger meet Thursday to Day. By the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: surprise to Brian. I promised. Here's a clip from the

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00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: get right here we go righty flames and all all

831
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: business mood today. It's not a little business more. I

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Speaker 1: just don't like this is a weird, weird story. It's

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Speaker 1: not it is weird. It's not weird, Okay, it's it's

834
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Speaker 1: a new generation we live in. Yeah, I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: Will feel so comfortable in the house and behind that

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Speaker 1: phmes and you know when they know I'm not around,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not hard to find. Yeah. Both both guys

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Speaker 1: had ample opportunity or what they do put their heads

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Speaker 1: down like the little puppies day are walk away. Now

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Speaker 1: you see Shack. The idea of Dwight Howard and JaVale

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Speaker 1: McGee wanted to fight you. Okay, this came up, by

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Speaker 1: the way on on Danny Green past Um. I guess

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Speaker 1: Dwight Howard said quote. I was like, uh to Javaial, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: did you want to fight Shack? And he was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I did. I did too. But then there's two things

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Speaker 1: we got to worry about. He's a cop, so if

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Speaker 1: we heard him, we're going to jail hell out of here,

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Speaker 1: even one bad. Yeah, but it just speaks to my

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Speaker 1: leadership abilities because what I did because I made them

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Speaker 1: become good players and exactly what I wanted. Exactly what

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Speaker 1: happened to me. Wild training and Kareem made me so

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Speaker 1: freaking mad. Well, I didn't want to fight them because

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Speaker 1: of the respect I have one see, these young guys

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Speaker 1: don't have respect for the elders. But they made me

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Speaker 1: so mad. I said, Okay, I'm gonna make y'all remember

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Speaker 1: my name, and uh, I'm noticing their name. You know,

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Speaker 1: Javille has a couple of championships under his belt, but

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Speaker 1: that's what you welcome. I did that. That's what I do.

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Speaker 1: I make people so pissed off they want to fight me.

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Speaker 1: Kobe wanted to fight me. How many rings you gotta

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Speaker 1: beat doll with, mister refreshments? I wait a minute, now

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Speaker 1: rings I got, kod you have four? Okay, no, but

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Speaker 1: how many rings you mean Kobe had? I got three? Exactly.

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Speaker 1: So that's what a leader does. I ruffles others. I

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Speaker 1: know what the hell I'm doing. I know they're playing,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that what I did to ruffle

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Speaker 1: us made them okay players. Jabelle has two rings and

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Speaker 1: delay that they keep playing. He's gonna have a ring

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