Speaker 1: Be around the NFL podcast. You really need to get
Speaker 1: to their bye week from the Chris Wesley podcast studio.
Speaker 1: It's around the NFL. There is no pie week. We've
Speaker 1: pounded doors in this building for years seeking that by
Speaker 1: a week at least market hundre. It's like, oh, keep
Speaker 1: me here, but it's not happened. It is the first
Speaker 1: Sunday of December and it is the week thirteen Sunday
Speaker 1: flagship show for the Around the NFL. And I will
Speaker 1: say this, Mark Sessler, Uh, And it happened to me
Speaker 1: as well. Um, it happened to you with the first
Speaker 1: game we're gonna talk about once again. NFL season, just
Speaker 1: when you think you have all the answers, they go
Speaker 1: and change the questions. It's a very hard season to
Speaker 1: figure out. It's Um, it's a muddled mess. Because I
Speaker 1: thought I was doing my job by you know, observing
Speaker 1: games from last week and games leading up to last
Speaker 1: week and coming away with observations that I thought were
Speaker 1: informed and strong and and they're shredded entirely. And also
Speaker 1: on a more psychological level, I spent all of yesterday
Speaker 1: thinking it was Week fourteen and did not realize until
Speaker 1: I got to work that it was week thirteen. So
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, it is a bit of
Speaker 1: a marathon, and that was a mental misq on my part.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the the emotional ride that Mark has
Speaker 1: gone with his belief in certain a f C North teams.
Speaker 1: How about all those afternoon games, like all came down
Speaker 1: to one fot you change one ft in the Washington
Speaker 1: game where car misses the open touchdown. Certainly you know
Speaker 1: we'll get to the Ravens game. And then that forty
Speaker 1: Niners ending Al Pacino told us that us how football operates.
Speaker 1: We we thought this was the worst week of games
Speaker 1: on paper, but it was a good Sunday and ended up.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about just what I thought I was
Speaker 1: out on any given Sunday? Yeah, well, I mean maybe
Speaker 1: somewhere in between those eras. You know, he's do you know,
Speaker 1: you know the speech that everyone knows, the speech I'm discussing.
Speaker 1: He's just in the locker room. He's going saying a
Speaker 1: little bit more. They're trying to take it away from you.
Speaker 1: The inches, Greg, And that's what I'm trying to you know,
Speaker 1: good good call back. All right, It's not there's not
Speaker 1: enough good football movies. I agree with that that I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm the only one some niche French film.
Speaker 1: Well I used to say that, and then I saw
Speaker 1: the trailer for the new Kurt Warner movie, and now
Speaker 1: I think you're back in here. You're back in. We
Speaker 1: got a chance. Okay, American Hero. Great title for a
Speaker 1: football film. Yes or no? Greg? Is that that? Are
Speaker 1: you sure that's the title? American Hero? Grave Digger? Ah,
Speaker 1: what did I say? That's what I said right now.
Speaker 1: You did not say that. But that's all right. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to all the games that are played
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Uh? And why not? Why not start? Yes
Speaker 1: with the late games? Uh? There are there are two
Speaker 1: that ended within minutes of each other, high on drama
Speaker 1: and yes, the first one a f C North buckle
Speaker 1: up baby whoa freeman stands to his right, freeman gets
Speaker 1: a big, big rush, he throws it. He is a
Speaker 1: lab part. Mark Andrew's pid one hand on it out
Speaker 1: in the red plantet and dropped the ball and the
Speaker 1: Steelers preserve a victory with twelve seconds to go. Wow,
Speaker 1: bhil Hill Grove with the call, all right, let's that
Speaker 1: was not a drop by Mark Andrews and he got
Speaker 1: a fingertip on it, a two point conversion. That's what
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh said. The Ravens scored the touchdown, pulled in
Speaker 1: one point. They said, we want to go for two.
Speaker 1: We want to win the ball game. John Harbaugh said,
Speaker 1: play like a raven all that stuff. He went for
Speaker 1: the wind. But that gamble cost the Ravens and kept
Speaker 1: the Steelers in the mix in the a f C
Speaker 1: North the past when incomplete, Lamar just overthrew his tight
Speaker 1: end twenty nine team final, Sammy Watkins had the big
Speaker 1: touchdown catch on a great little route to get it
Speaker 1: within one with twelve seconds to play. But Pittsburgh got
Speaker 1: to stop or got a little lucky, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to say. Either way, they got the win. Marky, I
Speaker 1: try to warn you. I said, don't you can't count
Speaker 1: out Pittsburgh. This is what they do. And this was
Speaker 1: a spot where they were desperate for a win and
Speaker 1: the Ravens could stand to take a loss, and all
Speaker 1: of it all played out and the Steelers are in
Speaker 1: the mix. Though. Yeah, I mean it's um It's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not uninformed by the idea that Pittsburgh is a
Speaker 1: resilient team. That does things like this. But what I
Speaker 1: had seen coming into this game, and frankly, what they
Speaker 1: showed on offense for the first three quarters of this
Speaker 1: game all played up to what we were saying about
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's like insufficient offense, I mean, just an absolute mess.
Speaker 1: They had eighteen plays in the first half, they had
Speaker 1: ninety three total yards, and the Ravens put up twenty
Speaker 1: three minutes of time of possession, which is the most
Speaker 1: the Ravens have had against any Twin team in twenty years.
Speaker 1: Where Pittsburgh was staying alive was they were doing what
Speaker 1: other teams have done to Lamar Jackson seven sacks on
Speaker 1: the day, coaxed them into an early costly interception, and
Speaker 1: then at that point Pittsburgh's offense I think they found themselves.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen it for Spurts in certain games.
Speaker 1: But the Naji Harris and Benny Snell started to get
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh right up the middle with runs right up
Speaker 1: the gut, and you finally started to get plays from
Speaker 1: Big Ben. He hit Chase Playpool on a forty yard er.
Speaker 1: Deonte Deonte jack Harris like started to completely come alive
Speaker 1: in this game. They Deante Johnson. Sorry, they absolutely like
Speaker 1: fourth quarter wise, you give it gives you hope if
Speaker 1: you're a Steelers fan. The way that they were able
Speaker 1: to I think use play action, which you know Tony
Speaker 1: Roma pointed this out too, that their only successful plays
Speaker 1: seeded to come off that, and they started to use
Speaker 1: a little bit more in Big Ben's arm. He threw
Speaker 1: on some of the better passes he's thrown on the
Speaker 1: year to get them back into this game. Um, it
Speaker 1: was a classic Steelers Ravens game in many different ways.
Speaker 1: If this is the last Ben Roethlisberger victory, and you know,
Speaker 1: Mark was saying all week, they're not gonna win another
Speaker 1: game all season, so it's possible they got They got
Speaker 1: a tough I'm just having fun because I don't think
Speaker 1: Mark really believed that, so I'm having fun with it.
Speaker 1: I also don't think Mark I believe they were done
Speaker 1: as a playoff team, and in this a f C,
Speaker 1: they're not done that that still might end up being
Speaker 1: true with this schedule, they're not in the playoffs right now.
Speaker 1: But you went from believing that too when they finished
Speaker 1: that touchdown drive and Deonte Johnson put it on Marlon
Speaker 1: Humphrey and I believe injured Marlin Humphrey because his route
Speaker 1: was so good because Marlon Humphrey's hurt. Now, uh, at
Speaker 1: that point in the game, you said, oh, Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: is going to be in the a f C championship business.
Speaker 1: We see it now and that is that is an
Speaker 1: unbelievable fourth quarter. To go four for seventy eight touchdown,
Speaker 1: ten for fifty eleven fifty touchdown is outrageous. And for
Speaker 1: Lamar to get them back in that position then come
Speaker 1: up about two inches short if he if he just
Speaker 1: puts that ball like Big Ben did this little thing
Speaker 1: where you like points up to the sky and let
Speaker 1: it's just like I'm gonna be He's not out of
Speaker 1: my life. And well, almost like what Greg alluded to,
Speaker 1: there was a report that came out Saturday that this
Speaker 1: is going to be Big Ben's final season. And if
Speaker 1: this is the end for Big Ben, I guess if
Speaker 1: you're a Steelers fan who has been nostalgic thinking about
Speaker 1: that and all the memories that have passed though during
Speaker 1: his long career, this was a bit of a vintage
Speaker 1: throwback game. Now, um that decision by John Harbaugh. It
Speaker 1: was fun as hell in the moment. We all applauded
Speaker 1: it in the newsroom. We all stared at our screens
Speaker 1: and um with with awe and reverence for a man
Speaker 1: having onions that size. But there was also a strategic
Speaker 1: reason behind it, according to Harbaugh, who told the media
Speaker 1: after the game that issues in the secondary helped prompt
Speaker 1: the decision. Intision, try to win a game right there.
Speaker 1: We were pretty much out of corners, you know, at
Speaker 1: that point in time. So here's an opportunity to try
Speaker 1: to win the game right there. So there you go.
Speaker 1: So Harbaugh said, my defense is so be up. I
Speaker 1: don't like my chances in overtime. And uh, Greg, I mean, ultimately,
Speaker 1: it was a good play call to the two points.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't executed. Was it a good play? I
Speaker 1: mean everyone's like, okay, he was open, yes, But if
Speaker 1: you watch the play, Lamar Jackson has to move shift
Speaker 1: up in the pocket with like a lateral quickness that
Speaker 1: basically no other quarterback in the league could do to
Speaker 1: avoid t J. Watt and then throw it over his
Speaker 1: outstretched hands. I thought it was a pretty good throw
Speaker 1: at I know what you're saying, but it was not.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is how great of a play call
Speaker 1: is is I think Lamar Jackson did a pretty good
Speaker 1: job on that play and and and Mark Andrews did
Speaker 1: a pretty good job on the play, like trying for
Speaker 1: it and they're two great players and you couldn't execute it.
Speaker 1: I mean that was it was a difficulty. I mean
Speaker 1: the theme also that was the t J. Watt was
Speaker 1: in his face. He was in his face the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: he had to have stop all that close in that
Speaker 1: spot considering what never bought the play fake. So if
Speaker 1: you're gonna get credit to the play fake, then you
Speaker 1: have to confuse t J. Watt on that play, and
Speaker 1: he read it and he had a monster game. So
Speaker 1: and also I think part of this Mark win when
Speaker 1: you were kind of all in on the Steelers being
Speaker 1: all out. We know the offense is still limited. This
Speaker 1: is kind of who they are. They're just not gonna
Speaker 1: score a lot of points anymore at this point, at
Speaker 1: least until they get a new quarterback, which is coming sooner,
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. But I think the defense stepping
Speaker 1: up after they got embarrassed by Cincinnati the week prior
Speaker 1: that showed again that they are a team that they're
Speaker 1: not gonna go out easily and in Baltimore on the
Speaker 1: TV show on Friday, I set up the Ravens by
Speaker 1: asking you, guys, can the Ravens keep doing this? Can
Speaker 1: they keep playing teams so close and always finding a way?
Speaker 1: And they almost did it again in this game. But
Speaker 1: it just goes to show you like there's regression involved here.
Speaker 1: If you play this many close games, you're gonna start
Speaker 1: losing some of them. They just have to play more
Speaker 1: complete football. Well, and if you the Blitz versus Lamar
Speaker 1: is for real. I mean, his numbers are staggeringly different
Speaker 1: and you know, not shiny when he's dealing with the Blitz.
Speaker 1: They got to today, I mean last week Cleveland coaxed
Speaker 1: him into a bunch of turnovers. I'm not calling saying
Speaker 1: that he's teflon because he still does things that are
Speaker 1: really special, but he looks like a one man show
Speaker 1: for large parts of this game today, and I don't
Speaker 1: think that is sustainable. You get to the playoffs, yes,
Speaker 1: but are you gonna go in a three game win
Speaker 1: streak in in the postseason with Lamar being Lamar and
Speaker 1: dealing and with what teams are doing right now, Well,
Speaker 1: he's struggled for more than a month. The red zone
Speaker 1: interception really hurt the average four point seven yards per play.
Speaker 1: Their offense isn't great. I mean, Sammy, what that the
Speaker 1: touchdown drive at the end of the game was kind
Speaker 1: of amazing. Sammy Watkins makes a couple of great routes
Speaker 1: and like looks like old Sammy Watkins and Lamar kind
Speaker 1: of has an m v P type of drive and
Speaker 1: you can't finish it. But the game ends. And after
Speaker 1: the game you hear that Marlon Humphrey is out multiple weeks.
Speaker 1: Their best cornerback, Patrick McCarry, who to me has been
Speaker 1: the key to that offensive line at right tackle, kind
Speaker 1: of coming out of nowhere and it's been off and on.
Speaker 1: It sounds like his injury is pretty serious. So you
Speaker 1: just lost two more of your best players to a
Speaker 1: team that's been really banged up in It gives the
Speaker 1: feel that this a f C North. We went into
Speaker 1: the season thinking maybe all four of these teams have
Speaker 1: a chance, and I still feel like all four of
Speaker 1: these teams at least have a chance now because of
Speaker 1: this result. Um, all right, let's move on to another
Speaker 1: game that went down to the final seconds, this time
Speaker 1: in Seattle. The building is shaking with a single setback.
Speaker 1: Garoppolo looks Paul is tipped up in the air. It's
Speaker 1: gonna fall in the ground if we're gonna win this
Speaker 1: football game. Brook fourth the three paths was tipped with
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. I don't know who kripted, but
Speaker 1: I want to go down and ship that man's hand.
Speaker 1: I might have been done. It was Carlos Dunlop, who
Speaker 1: has been quiet this year, but stepped up in this game.
Speaker 1: He had a sack uh that play on fourth down,
Speaker 1: saving the Seahawks in a thirty three win over the
Speaker 1: forty Niners, ending a forty Niners wind streak. Crazy game.
Speaker 1: Here by the way, the the Niners took over after
Speaker 1: an incredible goal line stand that ended in a Gerald
Speaker 1: Everett turnover, and Gerald Devert had one of the worst
Speaker 1: games you will ever see any tight end ever have.
Speaker 1: You will be stunned when you watch this tape of
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett and the Seahawks. Uh. They take over the
Speaker 1: Niners at their own two and march all the way
Speaker 1: to the other end of the field and have that chance,
Speaker 1: gets the fourth down and Dunlop knocks that ball away
Speaker 1: and the Seattle Seahawks. I mean, listen, they're still probably
Speaker 1: cooked at four and eight. But this was a game,
Speaker 1: and I locked up. The Niners took the l Mark,
Speaker 1: you have first place in things long term. I'm not
Speaker 1: concerned with where I am in the standings at the moment.
Speaker 1: I mean the way that a champion, the way that
Speaker 1: Mark was celebrating every good uh Seahawks play that is
Speaker 1: during and then when Dan came to the office, then
Speaker 1: it got quiet. Then then he didn't do it, and
Speaker 1: he loves It's funny because he was how much he
Speaker 1: likes Dad comes in and it's just total silent, total fiction,
Speaker 1: an utter fiction that you've created verbally, I acted anything.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of Seattle being taken out of
Speaker 1: the landscape. And I've been rooting for the Niners. So
Speaker 1: I wasn't sitting around believe Greg in this case because
Speaker 1: I know it well. Of course you do, but it's not,
Speaker 1: it's just not. This is just fine because you do
Speaker 1: love the Locks competition at a level that I think
Speaker 1: surpasses any of us. That's all. That's fine, it's cool,
Speaker 1: you're competitive guy. That does not make Greg's story accurate,
Speaker 1: even though what you said is true. I do care
Speaker 1: about the competition, it doesn't turn that into a true
Speaker 1: story like I like your competitive spirit. Mark. Okay, enjoy it.
Speaker 1: But let's get back to the game three. They got
Speaker 1: this stop and I thought this was interesting the Seahawks
Speaker 1: that we saw in this game. And this is a
Speaker 1: weird game. It had seven turnovers. I had the aforementioned
Speaker 1: Gerald Gerald Everett melt down, a drop in the end
Speaker 1: zone on a wide open paths that turned into an
Speaker 1: I n T. A fumble down at the goal line
Speaker 1: that almost swung the game the other way. Another fumble
Speaker 1: that he lost. I mean, it was out of this world. Uh,
Speaker 1: there was a safety in this game. But ultimately I
Speaker 1: thought the takeaway Mark was that the Seahawks, who looked
Speaker 1: dead and buried as dead as the Steelers looked last week. Um,
Speaker 1: they played like the old Seahawks and again they give
Speaker 1: the forty Niners problems even when the forty Niners were
Speaker 1: at their height. And if if there's one other thing
Speaker 1: I took away from it from the Niner side of things. Man,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying Jimmy G's the reason they
Speaker 1: lost this game, but you could tell Kyle Shanahan is
Speaker 1: just frustrated by the limitations that his quarterback presents in
Speaker 1: front of you. It was the safety where I you know,
Speaker 1: they cut to Shanahan after Jimmy G is taken down
Speaker 1: in the end zone. You know, this is after they
Speaker 1: were clinging to a lead, and Seattle I thought grabbed
Speaker 1: momentum if if we're allowed to believe that that exists
Speaker 1: um with that safety and Shanahan looked cold and old
Speaker 1: to me on the sideline, and he also looked super
Speaker 1: steamed at Jimmy G after a later really bad interception.
Speaker 1: Jimmy G was later stuffed on third and one that
Speaker 1: led to a punch in a really tight game. Going
Speaker 1: back and forth, it was like, we get it. Jimmy
Speaker 1: G is not the future, but he's not even the
Speaker 1: short term future when he's playing like that. Did Elijah
Speaker 1: Mitchell come back or was he out? He did? He
Speaker 1: came back. He suffered a head injury. But the two
Speaker 1: yards percaring they didn't run the ball. In general, the offense,
Speaker 1: they got off to a nice start. Um oh, I
Speaker 1: should also mention there was a after all those other
Speaker 1: things I mentioned, but also Seattle opened its scoring on
Speaker 1: a seventy three yard Travis Homer fake punt run for
Speaker 1: a touchdown. I mean, this game had it all, um,
Speaker 1: But San Francisco's offense was basically George Kittle being unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I mean, George Kittle when he's healthy, is better than
Speaker 1: everybody else that plays that position. I I really do
Speaker 1: believe that his health and staying healthy has been as
Speaker 1: big as challenge. Um. But yeah, they they didn't move
Speaker 1: the ball too well for stretches of this game San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and I thought Russell Wilson thirty of thirty seven to
Speaker 1: thirty one two touchdowns. He had one of those very
Speaker 1: pretty rainbow touchdowns to Tyler Lockett, and I thought to
Speaker 1: myself after it was thrown, It's like, man, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen that in a while, So I'm not We'll see
Speaker 1: if it wakes up Seattle and they end up either
Speaker 1: playing spoiler or somehow getting back into the playoff race.
Speaker 1: But for San Francisco, did awaken some maybe demons that
Speaker 1: cost them earlier in the season. Did Lockett come back
Speaker 1: into this game because he left for the locker room
Speaker 1: when he also came back. Well, they're in the NFC,
Speaker 1: which is the best news for the forty Niners. So
Speaker 1: even with like a loss, they're a loss up on
Speaker 1: the seven seed. There there there the eight seed. Rather
Speaker 1: they're in the playoffs. And the Seahawks, you know, they
Speaker 1: do have that. They have the Texans, Bears, Lions still
Speaker 1: on the schedule. They do have some tough games at
Speaker 1: the Rams Cardinals. It is nice to just see the
Speaker 1: idea that Russell Wilson can play quarterback again. Though when
Speaker 1: you would have thought, if you can put up this
Speaker 1: many points for the forty Niners the way Seattle has
Speaker 1: been playing lately, you win this game. But to score
Speaker 1: one points for Seattle in the second quarter is pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: And this like this rock scissor paper thing going on
Speaker 1: in the NFC West is like the one predictable thing
Speaker 1: in all of UH football right now that that like
Speaker 1: it's it's destructible. The Seahawks have beaten them sixteen out
Speaker 1: of eighteen times like that proceeds Santahan even but that
Speaker 1: is outrageous. Nothing would be more emblematic than the fifteen
Speaker 1: seated Seahawks in the NFC grabbing a playoff spot in
Speaker 1: on January nine, or whenever that is. The game started
Speaker 1: in a very scary way on the kickoff when Trent
Speaker 1: and Cannon running back uh collided with a teammate and
Speaker 1: it stopped the game down. An ambulance came out and
Speaker 1: the face mask comes off and all that scary stuff.
Speaker 1: He's taken to the hospital with the concussion. He's in
Speaker 1: stable condition, remaining overnight for observation. And one no one.
Speaker 1: Kittle just the second tight end in the past five
Speaker 1: seasons with at least a hundred yards receiving and two
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the first half. His touchdown where he danced
Speaker 1: along the sideline his second score, Uh, just special stuff.
Speaker 1: He is just such a beast. He's fun to watch.
Speaker 1: They gotta get healthier. They they didn't have Fred Warner,
Speaker 1: they didn't have Deebo Samuel. These are their best players,
Speaker 1: Marcel Harris, Manuel Moseley suffering an ankle injury. They need
Speaker 1: to get healthy. All right, Let's move on. So those
Speaker 1: two games, Saucy. Now up next the Detroit Lions. Could
Speaker 1: they finally get it done? Could they get a w
Speaker 1: Let's find out the four seconds to go, they can
Speaker 1: win it with a touchdown, first victory of the year.
Speaker 1: On the line back looks cross and touchdown and if
Speaker 1: they get it Ross Brown again. Oh they're rusty the field,
Speaker 1: Big John, it great, zero the claw. This game is over.
Speaker 1: It's over. Shall it go to Ama Rossa Brown his
Speaker 1: first career touchdown? And how big is that? Oh? My goodness.
Speaker 1: Dan Miller with the call. I thought the lines would
Speaker 1: get the bongos. Freaking event team ever to serve the congos.
Speaker 1: Dan Miller, w j R. With the call and a
Speaker 1: great call. It was Lions fans rejoice. You got your
Speaker 1: w Jared Goff through an eleven yard touchdown past two
Speaker 1: Aman ross St Brown as time expired, lifting the previously
Speaker 1: winless Detroit football club to win over the Vikings of
Speaker 1: Joyce Ford Field. We told you, We told you about
Speaker 1: the Vikings this week. They could not be trusted Greg.
Speaker 1: The Lions needed to go seventy five yards and a
Speaker 1: seconds with no timeouts, and they freaking did it. It
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite games and certainly one of
Speaker 1: my favorite moments of this entire season. There's something about
Speaker 1: when the last team that doesn't have a win get
Speaker 1: to win, especially when it's this deep, that is joyous.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of Cleo Lemon to Greg camar Rio
Speaker 1: to get cam Cameron off the Schneid in December for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins like a decade ago. It was. It was
Speaker 1: heroic by Jared Goff, this drive where they just stayed
Speaker 1: patient and patient, and Godwin Iguabecke made this great play
Speaker 1: on a catch, this running back to pick up a
Speaker 1: third and ten and get out of bounds, and I
Speaker 1: just kept saying, Wow, they're not going for the ends,
Speaker 1: and they're not going for the end zone, not one
Speaker 1: time you get to the twelve. And give golf credit,
Speaker 1: he had great timing throughout this game. He releases that
Speaker 1: ball in perfect time before aman Ra st Brown turns
Speaker 1: around the throw was there the rookie first touchdown of
Speaker 1: his career. What went a way to get it? And uh,
Speaker 1: Vikings fans are just gonna be killing Cameron Dancer. But
Speaker 1: he was held by Jared Goff, who was looking up
Speaker 1: the seams with his eyes where they had been killing
Speaker 1: the Vikings all day because they didn't have Anthony bar
Speaker 1: they didn't have Eric Kendricks, and he had been going
Speaker 1: up the seams all day. So it looked in the
Speaker 1: first TV copy just like bad defense. But that was
Speaker 1: a great job by Jared Goff and then a great
Speaker 1: job by god to immediately sprint to the sideline and
Speaker 1: hug Dan Campbell, who was celebrating like crazy, Uh, you
Speaker 1: did it. We asked you to go win a ballgame,
Speaker 1: Jared Goffna did it? I mean, and yet we have
Speaker 1: been sort of pet Vikings supporters and and that fan
Speaker 1: base right now, uh is as long as not we.
Speaker 1: I have enjoyed the Vikings all season long, and that
Speaker 1: continues every week. They play exciting, fun, ridiculous games. I'm
Speaker 1: just so happy I'm not a Vikings fan because I
Speaker 1: supported their season because it's fun. This is an exciting,
Speaker 1: fun game on its own. But I think that fan
Speaker 1: base feels like they've been dragged through the mud after
Speaker 1: they were down nightmare scenario. They were down twenty two
Speaker 1: six in this game. If you're a Vikings fan, you
Speaker 1: come all the way back to take a lead, you
Speaker 1: think you're gonna keep it, and then the Lions go
Speaker 1: for it on their own twenty nine with five minutes
Speaker 1: to go up too. This was the This was ballsy
Speaker 1: er than the Bill Belichick going up against the Colts
Speaker 1: play who they famously did it, you know, more than
Speaker 1: a decade ago, because they had they had the lead
Speaker 1: in that game, he goes for it, and you know what,
Speaker 1: the football gods rewarded him. That's twice in one day.
Speaker 1: Campbell went for it on fourth and one in his
Speaker 1: own end. They didn't get it either time, but I
Speaker 1: liked it because they're trying to win it on offense
Speaker 1: and if nothing else, it didn't give the Vikings too
Speaker 1: much time to waste. They were either going to get
Speaker 1: their field goal or touchdown quickly and the Lions could
Speaker 1: at least try to respond. They got the touchdown, which
Speaker 1: was not the outcome you wanted that the Vikings did,
Speaker 1: but at least gave the Lions a little bit of time.
Speaker 1: Uh to go the heroes, I think the the Viking.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's funny because it's been saying like
Speaker 1: they could beat any team, they could lose any team.
Speaker 1: And now, and I'll use the Power rankings is the
Speaker 1: framing because I'm known to do that. The Packers are
Speaker 1: the number one team in the Power Rankings. They beat
Speaker 1: the Packers. The Lions entering Sunday with the number thirty
Speaker 1: two team in the Power Ranks. They've now been beaten
Speaker 1: by the Lions. And it's just like I and you've
Speaker 1: been You've been mentioning this market times that Mike Zimmer
Speaker 1: is a guy who could be in trouble. I think
Speaker 1: if Zimmer, there's a pretty decent chance he goes in January,
Speaker 1: and if it happens, you could trace it right back
Speaker 1: to what happened here, because not only just the the
Speaker 1: frustrations building within that organization, within the fan base, and
Speaker 1: to let this game get away in the wide open
Speaker 1: NFC and you just never know. Again, let's not get
Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves and say the Vikings are dead now
Speaker 1: because the NFC is a total uh exactly, But like
Speaker 1: if they end up dropping another one of these type
Speaker 1: of games, or you know, just fall short and he
Speaker 1: gets fired, we'll remember this game on December five. And
Speaker 1: speaking of remembering, uh, Dan Campbell, this was really nice.
Speaker 1: After the game in this press conference, Campbell gave the
Speaker 1: game ball uh to uh you know, like he dedicated
Speaker 1: the game to the victims of the Oxford shooting, that
Speaker 1: horrible tragedy that happened in Michigan last week, the school shooting. Uh.
Speaker 1: He named the victims, he said those names will never
Speaker 1: be forgotten. And that was incredibly meaningful I imagine for
Speaker 1: that region because that was such a horrible thing that happened.
Speaker 1: So just like in a season of such frustration and
Speaker 1: uh for the Lions, this was a nice moment. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, I have often found Jared goff Um
Speaker 1: to be a little vacant in terms of being all
Speaker 1: in an electrifying personality, but he spoke after the game
Speaker 1: as well about the Oxford incident um and was brought
Speaker 1: to tears. And I just think like it kind of
Speaker 1: shows you that regionally but nationally that that was um
Speaker 1: on their hearts. It was a huge moment. And I
Speaker 1: will say this, Um, if you're the Vikings, you have
Speaker 1: a game coming up against the Steelers on Thursday night,
Speaker 1: that becomes a massive Thursday. The injuries are such a
Speaker 1: huge story. Before the game, we found out that both
Speaker 1: those linebackers I mentioned were out there. Left tackle Christian
Speaker 1: derre Saw was out, cam Binham, who's played great lafety lately,
Speaker 1: was out, Peter Rick Peterson was out, and Adam Thieland
Speaker 1: went out during this game, which helped Justin. Jeffers had
Speaker 1: go off for another eleven for one eighty two. He's
Speaker 1: on Cooper Cup's tail. I think for this offensive player
Speaker 1: of the Year, it was not enough it was not
Speaker 1: a flukey there. Kirk Cousins got away with a couple
Speaker 1: would be interceptions. Dan Campbell was his calling the plays
Speaker 1: and was really out Fox and zimm Or at least
Speaker 1: for the first half. Then it kind of slowed down,
Speaker 1: but they were going up. That doesn't cool zimmer seat now,
Speaker 1: no zimmer seat is warm it up? All right, let
Speaker 1: us move. By the way, I had asked Rigging Grave
Speaker 1: Digger to pull the Paul Allen Vikings call, and he
Speaker 1: was very even keeled because it's like, first of all,
Speaker 1: Paul has been doing it a long time, Like as
Speaker 1: a Vikings ven you kind of see this gum stuff coming.
Speaker 1: Now it's just like every week what happens. It's a
Speaker 1: stage play for every week. That was next level unbelievable.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's head to Cincinnati where the Bengals couldn't
Speaker 1: possibly be stopped or could they? They go Jumbo scop
Speaker 1: face in his hands, scooped up by Campbell, ten touchdown Chargers,
Speaker 1: sixty yard fumble return for Tavan Campbell, no money, the
Speaker 1: voice of God on me around the NFL podcast Power
Speaker 1: Rankings Cohort. He had the call or k Y s R.
Speaker 1: Tavan Campbell returned to Joe Mix and fumble sixty one
Speaker 1: yards for his score, helping the Chargers hold off the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Greg This was a game defined by streaks straight for
Speaker 1: the Bolts to start the game, twenty two straight for
Speaker 1: the Bengals after that, and then seventeen straight by the
Speaker 1: Bolts to close out after that, And it was the
Speaker 1: Campbell play that changed everything. It was. It was one
Speaker 1: of seven turnovers. I think the Charges had three straight
Speaker 1: at one point, and hence the Bengals scoring twenty two unanswered,
Speaker 1: and the Bengals are going in for what would have
Speaker 1: been a go ahead score midway through the third quarter.
Speaker 1: I mean the Chargers, if nothing else, they're doing their
Speaker 1: charger in a little earlier this year. That's a good
Speaker 1: way to do it. Get it out of the way night.
Speaker 1: At the end of it, they were up twenty four
Speaker 1: nothing mid second quarter, and then they were holding on
Speaker 1: to a four to twenty two lead while the Bengals
Speaker 1: up driving mid third quarter. One quarter later, like fourteen
Speaker 1: minutes of game or fifteen minutes of game time later,
Speaker 1: that fumble changed the Ekeler had a couple of fumbles
Speaker 1: mixing out a couple of you know, great players kind
Speaker 1: of giving up the ball, but I thought it was
Speaker 1: deserved because the one constant throughout this game was they
Speaker 1: got after Joe Burrow and I was kind of shocked
Speaker 1: by that because the Chargers have not been good in
Speaker 1: their terms of their past rush all season. Joey Bosa
Speaker 1: got a concussion in this game. If you remember last year,
Speaker 1: he was out for a long time with a pair
Speaker 1: of concussion So that is a big time concern for
Speaker 1: the Charges and that was very early in this game.
Speaker 1: And yet as it kept coming, Burrow played fantastic, had
Speaker 1: one of the best performances in a quarterback that ended
Speaker 1: up getting blown out. I've seen the bad hand right
Speaker 1: with the pinky hurt, making good decisions throwing the ball
Speaker 1: against pressure. It was not on Joe Burrow, but the
Speaker 1: the Chargers kept getting them in the running game. They
Speaker 1: were getting mixing for negative plays, including that force fumble
Speaker 1: was a jackknife into the backfield, and the Bengals were
Speaker 1: short too offensive linemen. I can hear the Wesseling brothers
Speaker 1: say say that they were injured. Okay, they're injured, speaking good.
Speaker 1: You know Nick him he's the best, but he's getting
Speaker 1: after the games when it's twenty four zip. He's texting
Speaker 1: us and he's saying, I actually had two recordings, one
Speaker 1: to go against the Bengals, wanted to go with the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I sent the wrong one. It's like, no, no, he
Speaker 1: didn't say he sent the one, not the accidentally, but
Speaker 1: he said he made the wrong decision. Yes, I think
Speaker 1: he's sort of maybe, you know, removing himself from the
Speaker 1: rest of the group, saying I was on you know,
Speaker 1: on both sides of the fence, but um in fighting
Speaker 1: seems to be a consistent problem for that group. It's good.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that, by the way, do you believe
Speaker 1: that he actually made or I absolutely believe that he
Speaker 1: made two recordings and he was debating and Nick send
Speaker 1: me the other recording with the timestamp. Please. It makes
Speaker 1: sense though, both these teams deserved to be seven and five.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Bengals, I don't think you deserve to be
Speaker 1: eight and for this is who you are. And the
Speaker 1: Chargers deserved because they they were dictating early. I like,
Speaker 1: they threw the ball deep, they went tempo early. Uh.
Speaker 1: They know Mike Williams making plays down the field like
Speaker 1: I like that. When they were aggressive, they were moving
Speaker 1: the pocket for Justin Herbert to try to like fix
Speaker 1: their offensive line problems. And it was a very aggressive
Speaker 1: game plan and so I think they got But I'm
Speaker 1: not doing this again where I, you know, fall for
Speaker 1: this is the team that I felt so hard for
Speaker 1: and went on like a one man pr campaign about
Speaker 1: how the Bengals can beat anyone in football. Well it's nonsense,
Speaker 1: because that's true. Dark was fired up during the early
Speaker 1: games too, and I don't did you have money on
Speaker 1: this game? Because he was no, not I'm forbidden to do.
Speaker 1: He was dying that the Chargers were winning this game.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't think of watching. One reason is you
Speaker 1: and we somehow like we're kind of like we weren't
Speaker 1: arguing it all, Greg, but like you were very pro Chargers, watching,
Speaker 1: very you know, very juiced up, and I was watching you.
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't hide it. I'm not walking around
Speaker 1: rooting for the Bengals. But it was more just like
Speaker 1: this exactly. And you find out that you I should
Speaker 1: have figured this out two months ago. Nothing sticks from
Speaker 1: week to week this season. Stuck your neck out for
Speaker 1: the Bengals and don't move. And that is and we
Speaker 1: talked about it late last week like that is that's
Speaker 1: a tricky move because as good as they were uh
Speaker 1: in those last two wins, it wasn't so long ago
Speaker 1: that they were looked terrible in back to back losses
Speaker 1: and they're just like they're just like, well, maybe a
Speaker 1: better version, but like the Vikings, they could beat any team,
Speaker 1: and they've shown that they could lose and lose convincingly
Speaker 1: in a big spot as well. It's just why the
Speaker 1: league is such a jumble this year, and now watching
Speaker 1: the Ravens lose later, obviously they're happy for that they're
Speaker 1: one game back, but they could have been uh in
Speaker 1: first place. Huge wind though, I think for the Charge
Speaker 1: to get this offense going, guy in and Alan and
Speaker 1: everyone was making place for them to do. Do you
Speaker 1: trust them at all to do that next week? I
Speaker 1: don't care who they're playing of the Chargers are even
Speaker 1: even less trustworthy to me. But it is it is
Speaker 1: destabilizing to my eyes to deal with this, but it
Speaker 1: is the new way it is if you like kind
Speaker 1: of just like embrace the madness. Yeah, yeah, this has
Speaker 1: helped me with my powering his assignment. Otherwise I would
Speaker 1: start to have some mental issues over it. Just embrace
Speaker 1: it and understand it's not your fault when you get
Speaker 1: these things wrong, because who can tell. We have much
Speaker 1: more freeing to just say I have no control, you
Speaker 1: control me, all right? I like that. All right. Let's
Speaker 1: take a break and then get to Nick Shook. Why
Speaker 1: it's not for Stafford. He's snacks it with one hand,
Speaker 1: gathers throws mental cop I put the crops winning, damn
Speaker 1: question the field touchdown Cooper Cup touchdown l a yard
Speaker 1: from Matthew Stafford. Oh man, the Rams needed a layup,
Speaker 1: and that's what the Jaguars are. Let's be honest. JB
Speaker 1: Long our buddy hung out with JB this summer. Gonna
Speaker 1: do it again next summer, maybe even before that in
Speaker 1: the winter, maybe the winter, maybe the spring will hang out.
Speaker 1: Every season will hang out. Once Matthew Stafford snapped out
Speaker 1: of the slum with three touchdown passes, including get another
Speaker 1: scoring connection with Cooper Cup in Los Angeles rolled to
Speaker 1: a thirty seven seven win over the unwatchable Jaguars. Hey Shook,
Speaker 1: So we are newsroom right next to the stadium. I
Speaker 1: actually when I was throwing out some trash because for
Speaker 1: some reason in this new building, they say, let's build
Speaker 1: a ten thousand square foot newsroom with four trash cans.
Speaker 1: You know we're talking. The closest trash cans is about
Speaker 1: forty yards away. Here's the I'm with you that it disanoys.
Speaker 1: You have to get up every every you know, twenty
Speaker 1: minutes and walk with your paper plate or whatever and
Speaker 1: find a trash can. But on those Sundays in the
Speaker 1: Culver City office, around um three four o'clock, those full
Speaker 1: garbage cans started to have a putrid stench. And I
Speaker 1: don't miss that. That's all I'd say. Anyway, So when
Speaker 1: I walked to the trash can and I went to
Speaker 1: the big glass partition that shows the vista of the
Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium, all those happy Rams fans filing out after
Speaker 1: a blowout win, I thought to myself, I wonder what
Speaker 1: it's like for you to walk out of a stadium
Speaker 1: as a fan of a team after an easy win
Speaker 1: like that choke Because the Rams needed it, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: definitely needed it. And Jacksonville came to town at the
Speaker 1: perfect time, you know, to to break this uh, this
Speaker 1: losing streak for them. It was one of those games
Speaker 1: where the Rams get off to another slow start. Offensively,
Speaker 1: and it was it's kind of like, well, they're still
Speaker 1: haven't really figured it out. And then they hit halftime
Speaker 1: and it's almost as if they realized, oh wait, we're
Speaker 1: playing the Jaguars on the other side of the field,
Speaker 1: but we should be able to do this, and they
Speaker 1: woke up and and Matthew Stafford specifically with three touchdown
Speaker 1: passes in the second half. They cruised. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was an easy operation for them in the second half.
Speaker 1: The big thing for me, I think that that really
Speaker 1: encouraged me for the Ramsas. And I know it's the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: so like you have to take it with a grain
Speaker 1: of salt, but uh, Sony Michelle break rushing yards today
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. That was a welcome development for a
Speaker 1: team that has not been able to run the football
Speaker 1: consistently for most of this season, and it helped brings
Speaker 1: some balance them. And like I said, they just they cruise.
Speaker 1: You know, you're playing the Jaguars, the Jaguars, you're one
Speaker 1: week closer to the office. Henderson I was watching that
Speaker 1: game and thinking they miss Henderson didn't end up mattering.
Speaker 1: Obviously he was hurt. It was like Henderson would have
Speaker 1: had to though the whole that they were blowing open
Speaker 1: for Michell were We're enormous, and I'm beginning to think
Speaker 1: like an offense where la Kwan Treadwell is your number
Speaker 1: one receiver for two straight weeks. Maybe not that explosive
Speaker 1: Jack it would have been. It would have been explosive
Speaker 1: where he was drafted here. The one note that I
Speaker 1: took on this game because I wasn't able Nick to
Speaker 1: track it as closely as you was the look on
Speaker 1: urban Meyer's face, um like roughly kind of late third quarter,
Speaker 1: early fourth, as if someone just had stuck slices of
Speaker 1: lemon into his mouth. I mean it just he does
Speaker 1: not look like he's having any fun out there on
Speaker 1: any level. There's that memorable photo of urban Meyer after
Speaker 1: he lost to I do remember who wasn't I think
Speaker 1: the big tent title game in the Battles of Lucas
Speaker 1: Oil Stadium eating Papa John's pizza on a golf cart.
Speaker 1: That's like his entire season has been that photo. Dan
Speaker 1: wanted Aaron Donald to like do some things, and he
Speaker 1: was totally He started the game literally by picking up
Speaker 1: James Robinson throwing him while knocking the ball out, which
Speaker 1: was exciting, and then he totally wreck shopped the rest
Speaker 1: of the game. So you know it's against the worst
Speaker 1: offense any of us have ever seen. Hey, it was
Speaker 1: start there in a big spot. We're gonna need Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald to win a ball game, but that's that is
Speaker 1: a good start. Oh, I like to stay on Aaron
Speaker 1: don old thing. This is gonna b J like the
Speaker 1: one yard touchdown to make everyone happy at the end.
Speaker 1: That was fun. So what do you think about the Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got two in two weeks now, Um? Well, I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: it was a jump ball in the end zone and
Speaker 1: they were up by a ton of points, so it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me. He had also saved his body
Speaker 1: on one of those, to be fair, And you know
Speaker 1: that play that everyone killed him on in Cleveland for
Speaker 1: not going for the play that he didn't go for today,
Speaker 1: and the end zone was five times worse. It was.
Speaker 1: It was like the other one was questionable. This one
Speaker 1: was like, I am not going to hurt. But you
Speaker 1: know what about Chuck if we just put I'm not
Speaker 1: saying you need to have trash bands for every desk,
Speaker 1: but just in different quadrants of the new news room.
Speaker 1: What about that I'm stunned. I mean, you guys have
Speaker 1: state of the art equipment everywhere else. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: you got great desk chairs, you got standing desks, you
Speaker 1: got your names on the trusted glass or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, for somebody who's never been there, it looks
Speaker 1: fantastic to hear this development about a lack of trashing.
Speaker 1: We got the hall of a party on Tuesday. Shook.
Speaker 1: I mean, you did choose to move to Cleveland, so
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well, yeah, I was lured here, Like Shook,
Speaker 1: do you have heated toilet seats in your house? Because
Speaker 1: that's what we have here at work. If you were
Speaker 1: to come to our work, that kind of grows. I
Speaker 1: hear there's also bid days there. There are yet to
Speaker 1: try that said podcast. All right, Chookie, let's let's move
Speaker 1: on to the next game on your docket. Can they
Speaker 1: by the way, can you expense a flight for the
Speaker 1: holiday party? I would love to, um, but I think
Speaker 1: it's too late to make that manageable. All right, let's
Speaker 1: hit the next game. Big Shooter takes the snark, he
Speaker 1: backs up. It looks hey, here's look agin catching it
Speaker 1: gotter and for a second, tuxdown made it look easy.
Speaker 1: There's that guy again, Merril Reese and Mike Quick w
Speaker 1: I barter means you started in place of an injured
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts lead the Eagles to scores in their first
Speaker 1: seven possessions eighteen. The final over the Jets at the
Speaker 1: Meadowlands shook. Minshew had open receivers all day long against
Speaker 1: the Jets defense that, according to some players, had no
Speaker 1: said they had no idea that there could be a
Speaker 1: scenario where Gardner Minshew would be playing in the game.
Speaker 1: It looked like that all afternoon. It seems like a
Speaker 1: lack of preparation. But yeah, you're you're right, it did.
Speaker 1: He had eleven straight completions to start the game. Uh,
Speaker 1: he was. He was very sharp. I mean he's Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's Aaron Rodgers back there. But he
Speaker 1: got the offense move and kept him moving to the
Speaker 1: point where late in the game, I'm sitting there thinking,
Speaker 1: come on, Jets, like take another two more minutes off
Speaker 1: the clock on this drive when you're already down to scores.
Speaker 1: We gotta finish with a scoring result on every Eagles possession.
Speaker 1: I want some historical outcome from this game, just because
Speaker 1: it was already decided at that point. Ultimately they had
Speaker 1: to punt on the following possession, But before that, I mean,
Speaker 1: he was efficient and um really paced this offense. Miles
Speaker 1: Standards also got involved in was a huge part of
Speaker 1: their offense today. Hundred twenty yards in the ground, a
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle like game, if you will. He left for
Speaker 1: the ankle injury, so hopefully that's not too serious. But
Speaker 1: the big story I think for me, besides Gardner Minshew,
Speaker 1: was Dallas Goddard. I mean, how can you not love
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard. Since they traded zach Ertz, He's he's stepped
Speaker 1: up and I think kind of owned that tight end
Speaker 1: one role. I mean, that's how he got that extension
Speaker 1: and he continues to and in games like this where
Speaker 1: you have your backup quarterback and you know he needs
Speaker 1: to rely on the tight end, you have too explosive
Speaker 1: touchdowns out of it. He wasn't. It was like he
Speaker 1: wasn't even covered in the first half. And if you
Speaker 1: if you think that the Eagles fan base and those
Speaker 1: reporters in Philly um aren't clamoring for a QB battle
Speaker 1: here or a controversy, you don't know Philly Sports. After
Speaker 1: the game, Nick Sirianni was asked if Gardner means you
Speaker 1: might have a chance to steal the job from Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: But with Jalen being our start, I think he's played
Speaker 1: good football. Um, you know, I think he's played really
Speaker 1: good football. You know, I think there's been there's been
Speaker 1: there's been uh times where he's been one of the
Speaker 1: best in the league with the way he's moved around,
Speaker 1: made plays and um, you know, with his you know,
Speaker 1: we look at that quarterback rating and what he what
Speaker 1: he's had there, and so, um he's played, he's played
Speaker 1: really good football when he's in and so when he
Speaker 1: he's healthy and he's back, he'll he'll be our starter. Well,
Speaker 1: they got a bye week coming up, which might have
Speaker 1: informed the decision not to play him. They're just he
Speaker 1: Hurts is the identity of that team, because their identity
Speaker 1: is a running team. Now, the fact that they were
Speaker 1: able to run for today without him shows it's it's
Speaker 1: not just Hurts, but they were they were playing the
Speaker 1: game and that's only eleven yards from Minshew. I mean
Speaker 1: it's Minshew. I've done calling Andy Dalton or anyone else
Speaker 1: the best backup in the league gets Gardner Minshew. He's
Speaker 1: an assassin. Minshew is a very good backup. He's great.
Speaker 1: I think the only thing I'll say about this is,
Speaker 1: and this has happened with other teams, with the Jets defense,
Speaker 1: the Jets events is so bad. It's like trying to
Speaker 1: draw too many conclusions. I'm I'm I'm worried about the
Speaker 1: whole operation with slid because I know they're under man
Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of talent, and injuries have
Speaker 1: taken some of their best players. But they are just
Speaker 1: completely non competitive on some of these weeks, and I
Speaker 1: thought that maybe they had patch some things up. They
Speaker 1: were impossible to watch in this game. Sounded like Zack
Speaker 1: Wilson though, has a great start to the game, like
Speaker 1: what's the boy who shall lead us? The boy who
Speaker 1: shall lead us? On there? And this is my favorite
Speaker 1: Jets stat in a long time. The Jets scored touchdowns
Speaker 1: on their first three possessions, but after their opponent's first
Speaker 1: three possessions, they were losing by a field goal. You
Speaker 1: can't make that up. Kicker number thirty seven missed two
Speaker 1: extra points and did not see the field again except
Speaker 1: for kickoffs. Uh and then they went for two and
Speaker 1: missed on their third score, and then that was it
Speaker 1: for their offense. Uh In the defense of Michael Floor
Speaker 1: and company and Zach Wilson, they didn't even see the
Speaker 1: ball in the third quarter. They had the ball for
Speaker 1: seventy seconds in the third quarter. Uh So there just
Speaker 1: wasn't much going on after those first three drives. But
Speaker 1: it was progress. He came out shook and he was
Speaker 1: throwing darts and he looked comfortable. And that had been
Speaker 1: a major issue this season for Wilson coming in into
Speaker 1: these games and looking terrible. He looked genuinely great early on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was really excited to see that type
Speaker 1: of composure and the ability to get the ball on
Speaker 1: the field in the first half. I thought we were
Speaker 1: going to be in for a four quarter game until
Speaker 1: the third quarter happened, and like you said, Jets didn't
Speaker 1: really see the football and the Eagles started to pull away. UM.
Speaker 1: But I like the competition from him. I like the
Speaker 1: fact that he was able to kind of go toe
Speaker 1: to toe with you know, Gardner Minshew of all names,
Speaker 1: but still an NFL offense on the other side of
Speaker 1: the ball. Um that that you know, he kept them
Speaker 1: in the game. The Elijah Moore thing is building steam
Speaker 1: but still not there, but it's building steam. I'm excited
Speaker 1: about their future. It's just like you can you can
Speaker 1: pick small things out of it, Like it's not a
Speaker 1: complete loss. Like when you watch the Jaguars, you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to talk positively about this team.
Speaker 1: There are moments of inspiration. It's just they haven't put
Speaker 1: it together. And that's teams like this that tends to
Speaker 1: be the case. That's six straight losing seasons. Now for
Speaker 1: the Jets who are three and nine and Minshew, I
Speaker 1: seek it out if you haven't seen it. Minshew celebrating
Speaker 1: with his dad after the game. He is a pretty
Speaker 1: He's a funny dude. Minshew. He's got chu. I don't
Speaker 1: know what I don't know. I would love to see,
Speaker 1: like what his day to day uh deal is because
Speaker 1: he seems really interesting. All Right, there's one more game
Speaker 1: with Shook, and it is the other New York team
Speaker 1: is actually there's only one New York team. I mean,
Speaker 1: is that the person with that accent. Probably, but it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be saying that so much with the Western New
Speaker 1: York price and but I don't know what that is. Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: Bill so Special, Classic Buffalo would News. Now I'm to play.
Speaker 1: Oh that's Jenny to Orchard pot. We'll lunch in some
Speaker 1: of them. Jimmy Seplo with the call for de wu
Speaker 1: q a m. The Dolphins keep winning to its low
Speaker 1: through a pair of short touchdown passes. Dolphins extend their
Speaker 1: winning streak to five games, topping the Mike Glennon let in.
Speaker 1: It will be Mike Glennon well if he's healthy for
Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. Daniel Jones is gonna miss multiple weeks
Speaker 1: for this neck issue anyway. Nine final score Dolphins on
Speaker 1: the most beautiful natural turf in America shook from one
Speaker 1: and seven to six and seven. With a favorable schedule ahead,
Speaker 1: Have the Dolphins do it on Sunday similarly how they've
Speaker 1: done in the last month. I mean, their defense has
Speaker 1: really given their offensive runway to either succeed or were struggle,
Speaker 1: And today was more of a struggle. Not on the
Speaker 1: part of ta who had a very strong game. I
Speaker 1: think he has four straight games of the passer rating
Speaker 1: over a hundred, which is good for them. But um,
Speaker 1: I mean we've seen this from the Giants kind of
Speaker 1: the last few weeks is that their defense has come together.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a scrappy, grinded out sort of
Speaker 1: game that the Dolphins ended up pulling away in, not
Speaker 1: not one that's super aesthetically pleasing, but because the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: It's like you've got two teams that are kind of similar,
Speaker 1: but the Dolphins as a little bit better in certain
Speaker 1: areas and that's what produces a twenty to nine win
Speaker 1: um and the ability to come through in the clutch.
Speaker 1: It's just something that the Giants still haven't been able
Speaker 1: to do, is you know on key downs. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: they're six or sixteen on third down. Not that the
Speaker 1: Dolphins were much better six or fifteen, but there's just
Speaker 1: a slight difference between these two teams. And the Dolph
Speaker 1: and had that positive momentum going because they can rely
Speaker 1: on their defense and hope they get enough out of
Speaker 1: their offense. And they got enough out of it today.
Speaker 1: And I continue to be very impressed by Jalen Waddle.
Speaker 1: I mean, he is the go to guy in that offense,
Speaker 1: and and he went out with cramps and for a
Speaker 1: moment it was like we're fearing a knee injury, and
Speaker 1: then he came back and he was smiling on the
Speaker 1: sideline and it was like all of Dolphins Nation, wherever
Speaker 1: they reside in Miami or other eyes, they were all
Speaker 1: rejoicing at the fact that their greatest offensive hope is
Speaker 1: still good to go. I know Miami has um a
Speaker 1: consistent wandering eye under center, but I feel like the
Speaker 1: to uh experience of the last couple of weeks has
Speaker 1: shown you that he is accurate, he's efficient. Uh. They've
Speaker 1: put the offense around him in a way that I
Speaker 1: you know, with Waddle especially, the connection has been uh
Speaker 1: valuable for them. Like I don't know if it's enough
Speaker 1: to keep the job with the way they operate, but
Speaker 1: he's making an argument for himself. Yeah he was. There
Speaker 1: were one rare Jalen Waddle drop away from maybe having
Speaker 1: another touchdown on the board because he hit him on
Speaker 1: a quick slant and he had plenty of room a
Speaker 1: running just didn't catch the ball. Um. So maybe the
Speaker 1: stat line looks better and and maybe that's the highlight
Speaker 1: that you lean on. You're like, oh, look, there's the connection.
Speaker 1: It's really starting. You know, he's got the job, But
Speaker 1: I think he's done enough in the last few weeks
Speaker 1: and we'll see, you know, they still got five weeks left.
Speaker 1: I think he's done enough in the last few weeks
Speaker 1: to at least earn a right to the discussion for
Speaker 1: next year. And if he can continue this type of
Speaker 1: play and they can somehow like maybe sneak in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: would be right on the edge. It's gonna be really hard,
Speaker 1: I think, unless it's Deshaun Watson and you figure all
Speaker 1: that out, uh, to necessarily move on from him if
Speaker 1: he you know, finished the strong. You know what we
Speaker 1: should do, as long as this winning streak continues, we
Speaker 1: should not bring up that name. As long as the
Speaker 1: Dolphins keep winning, we should have a moratorium on that
Speaker 1: name until the Dolphins fall. It's not us though, it's
Speaker 1: it's the owner. And like, well, we're mentioning him every
Speaker 1: time we bring up the Dolphins. That's fair. But I
Speaker 1: just mean, like that, the fact that they went so
Speaker 1: far into it because you said, like, okay, hey probably
Speaker 1: have earned like another look. If they got rid of
Speaker 1: him after this season, it would almost be unprecedented for
Speaker 1: a top five pick with the numbers that he's had
Speaker 1: with you know, people, I'm not a big QB wins guy,
Speaker 1: but it's like, yeah, they've won way more games than
Speaker 1: they've lost with two as the starting quarterback. If you
Speaker 1: go back to last year, they're like ten and seven.
Speaker 1: They bounce back from one and seven. Now most of
Speaker 1: it is the defense, but he does specific things really well,
Speaker 1: and they've they've they have. It's hard to get too
Speaker 1: excited when you're beating like Tyred Taylor seventeen nine, and
Speaker 1: you're beating Joe Flacco seventeen and you're beating Mike glennon by,
Speaker 1: but they've done their job and there there. It is
Speaker 1: amazing for a team that we all said was like
Speaker 1: a mess internally that they've turned it totally around and say,
Speaker 1: it's unprecedented that a team would move on from a
Speaker 1: quarterback two years in considering all the factors. Well, it's
Speaker 1: also unprecedented that a potential guy can come on available.
Speaker 1: But we're not. I'm just saying, like a pick that high,
Speaker 1: who's throwing like twenty three touchdowns eleven interceptions, with good
Speaker 1: numbers like winning games, It's it's pretty rare to even
Speaker 1: be talking about it, all right. I mean, Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: would like kill a small family for number and wins
Speaker 1: like that, we don't know that probably no, I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe we don't know. That's like that, Hey, Nick Shook,
Speaker 1: do you fancy a barrel of a Niagara Falls? Do you? Hey?
Speaker 1: Would you like to stop over in Rochester and get
Speaker 1: yourself a garbage played on the way to Orchard Park.
Speaker 1: That's my birthplace, Rochester, New York. By the way, you
Speaker 1: were there twenty years later and was mugged there outside
Speaker 1: of a bus station, so it's like, welcome back to
Speaker 1: the place of your birth some soft muggy and I
Speaker 1: hadn't I had like a Blockbuster card in my wallet
Speaker 1: at the time, so it wasn't allowed. Would you like
Speaker 1: to rent a video tape in Rochester? The birthplace of
Speaker 1: Mark Sesla? Stay out of Rochester, Mark, you no longer welcome. Alright, Joe,
Speaker 1: see you buddy. Alright, guys, take a break and then
Speaker 1: we'll hit the defending champs from ber Love. The snapped
Speaker 1: Brady has passed all the ends all caught ball. Not funny,
Speaker 1: but I think Dan's vat at Hilly lapped like six
Speaker 1: out of the seven times decker Hof not Funnay, w
Speaker 1: f U s with the call Tom Brady Threugh fore
Speaker 1: and four touchdowns, two of them to b FF Rob
Speaker 1: Gronkowski and the Bucks move to the brink of clinching
Speaker 1: the NFC southt SEV win over the Falcons. That's three
Speaker 1: with every every other team in the NFC South is
Speaker 1: like four and six or something. It's just like it's
Speaker 1: a complete slop fest. And then there's the Bucks. Three
Speaker 1: straight wins for the Bucks. They have a four game
Speaker 1: lead in that division with five to play. Um, it's funny,
Speaker 1: like you know how we on our TV show on Fridays,
Speaker 1: which everyone should check out on Saturday's on NFL Network, Um,
Speaker 1: we talked about when we get to the a f
Speaker 1: C South, we always struggle whoever lands on either the
Speaker 1: Texans and the Jags, Like, what are you gonna talk
Speaker 1: about for two minutes? I continue to have this issue
Speaker 1: with the Bucks although they're this you know, juggernaut like
Speaker 1: racing back to the playoffs, because I don't really know
Speaker 1: what what to add because they're just taking care of business.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting Gronk healthy again once again, is
Speaker 1: such an important part of the offense, and you could
Speaker 1: tell just Tom Brady is more comfortable when he's got
Speaker 1: that guy on the field. He had twenty seven yard
Speaker 1: and eleven yard touchdowns. Brady's at forty four years old,
Speaker 1: throwing fifty one passes in a game, completing thirty eight
Speaker 1: and we've been talking about it greg and will get
Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray a little bit later. And I know
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is having a huge season, but you cannot
Speaker 1: take Tom Brady out of the m v P conversation
Speaker 1: because he did have a bad pick six that Marlon
Speaker 1: Davidson showed a lot of athleticism right at the end
Speaker 1: of the half that made this game almost interesting, but
Speaker 1: ultimately it was Brady and Cruise control and he's just
Speaker 1: piling up the numbers once again. Yeah, he sees Gronkin
Speaker 1: man coverage in the red zone. Gronk's gonna get that ball.
Speaker 1: He sees Chris Godwin in this game, period, and Godwin's
Speaker 1: gonna get the ball. Fifteen catches for god When the
Speaker 1: most of any player for any in any game all season.
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan took eleven quarterback hits in five sacks in
Speaker 1: this game, whereas they almost the Bucks that is, their
Speaker 1: offensive light almost had a Gholston, which long time listeners
Speaker 1: will know is no quarterback hits, no sacks. There was
Speaker 1: one quarterback hit on on Tom Brady and that's it.
Speaker 1: They The only thing I'm watching is like, can they
Speaker 1: stay healthy? Carlton Davis returns, and then Jamal Dean, who's
Speaker 1: the other starting corner, gets a concussion. Edwards is out
Speaker 1: because he makes the you know, the funny vax card
Speaker 1: before getting vacks anyways, which is like the dumbest thing ever.
Speaker 1: So they seem like they have these things, but they're
Speaker 1: piling up their wins. Do you come away with any
Speaker 1: concern about what Atlanta did on the ground earlier? I
Speaker 1: think they had like nine nine yards rushing when the
Speaker 1: Bucks had eleven. And we know that Tampa's you know,
Speaker 1: run defense, um can put it to teams week after week.
Speaker 1: Is are they Is there any And I wasn't really
Speaker 1: concerned at any point watching the game, maybe not personally, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I probably where the Bucks concerned. You'll have to ask them.
Speaker 1: I I couldn't tell you that, but I'll get on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they gave up some yards last week. They can't pass
Speaker 1: protect Atlanta and their quarterback can't move and again, it's
Speaker 1: just like they're a hard watch for me. The Falcons.
Speaker 1: Because of that, and Matt Ryan, I just wonder there's
Speaker 1: you know, what his long term future is. I know
Speaker 1: he's the money makes him the guy again next year,
Speaker 1: But is Arthur Smith watching this guy week after week
Speaker 1: and be like, man, is this the guy want to
Speaker 1: go to war with? Where another seventeen games next year?
Speaker 1: That's not a popular opinion. Another team that passed on
Speaker 1: Justin Fields and Mac Jones. I mean, I think took Pitts,
Speaker 1: but it was a decision. I just wonder what happens
Speaker 1: and how complicated how much the money complicates any decision
Speaker 1: that they make at quarterback. Which is not to put
Speaker 1: this loss or this season at the feet of Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: but it just feels like he's an odd fit where
Speaker 1: this organization is right now. He is, but imagine like
Speaker 1: almost all of the rookie quarterbacks outside of Mac Jones
Speaker 1: being shoved into that offense this year. It's a cupboard?
Speaker 1: Is bear say they are showing in a total lack
Speaker 1: of depth or coaching by playing Jalen Mayfield every week?
Speaker 1: It's just like there's that one guard. I feel like
Speaker 1: every season that, like every one who watches football, it'll
Speaker 1: just makes fun of because he gives up like four
Speaker 1: sacks a week and gets dominated. And that's Jalen Mayfield.
Speaker 1: Like the opposing team, everyone is fighting to line up
Speaker 1: against Jalen Mayfield and just like beat him like a
Speaker 1: drum get you know, just have some mercy. Take him out.
Speaker 1: Does not sound fun? Take us not sound in enjoyable.
Speaker 1: By the way, that's now ninety touchdowns in the regular
Speaker 1: season for Gronk and Brady, passing your boy Greg Phil
Speaker 1: Rivers and Antonio Gates for number two in NFL history,
Speaker 1: the only duo to have more connections, and it's by
Speaker 1: a considerable amount, twenty two more Peyton Manning and Marvin Prison.
Speaker 1: It's so weird because Brady's season, I would say, is
Speaker 1: not better than he was last year overall, and he
Speaker 1: wasn't even an m v P. Rodgers That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Right now, he's number one on Mike QB Index and
Speaker 1: so then you you would have a shot to win,
Speaker 1: like whoever is the best quarterback is gonna have a
Speaker 1: good shot. It's this is a strange season, all right.
Speaker 1: Let us now move to Chicago or the Bears were
Speaker 1: hoping to pull an upset with Andy Dalton behind the center.
Speaker 1: Murray takes the shotguns snap straight drop back, washed out
Speaker 1: of the pocket, rolling right, being chased, he talks, he
Speaker 1: runs at the five and he heads to the corner
Speaker 1: and he's into the end zone for the touchdown Dave
Speaker 1: pass with the call kt A are welcome back, Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: Cardinals got their store star quarterback back on the field
Speaker 1: and it paid immediate dividends. Two passion touchdowns, two rushing scores,
Speaker 1: and a thirty victory over the moribund Chicago Bears. Mark
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins was also back in this game. He caught
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass. Cardinals keep winning. I think from the
Speaker 1: side of the offense, you love to see that. Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray had a season high fifty nine yards on the
Speaker 1: ground off of ten carries. He looked good, he looked healthy.
Speaker 1: And DeAndre Hopkins had a couple of catches in this
Speaker 1: game that showed you that acrobatically athletically he's fine. Um.
Speaker 1: The story of the game was this defense. This is
Speaker 1: I think the most balanced team around right now, and
Speaker 1: you almost forget about them because they went through the
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy thing. But this defense has delivered week after
Speaker 1: week and they gave Kyler Murray and the attack the
Speaker 1: ball on four interceptions on the Chicago twenty eight, again
Speaker 1: on the Chicago, the Chicago fifteen, and the Chicago twelve.
Speaker 1: This was not a game where Arizona playing in a
Speaker 1: pouring rain, and I don't think that's the best environment
Speaker 1: for this offense. They were not their typical selves. Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray had two fumbles on those first two drives, recovered
Speaker 1: both of them, but he looked to be affected to
Speaker 1: some degree by the weather. There were a couple of
Speaker 1: passes it didn't matter. I mean, they're just they were
Speaker 1: too complete and the Bears are a hot mess. Um.
Speaker 1: It gets boring to even discuss Mattnegy, but I do
Speaker 1: feel like he's starting to come undone on the sideline
Speaker 1: a little bit. He had it's like winter hat on
Speaker 1: that was like crooked over his ears because of his microphone.
Speaker 1: He's just always jawing at the refs. At one point,
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury um bumped his mouth into a shoulder pad
Speaker 1: of a Cardinals player and was like spitting blood out
Speaker 1: of his mouth. They cut it like Bears consultant Mike
Speaker 1: Petting up in the booth and he just looks sad
Speaker 1: and lost. So it was a long he's consulting on
Speaker 1: the he's a consultant on the team, you know, and
Speaker 1: he they cut to one of those booths with everyone
Speaker 1: and just I was like, that's Mike Pett. He's just
Speaker 1: staring out at the clouds, like our salary times eight
Speaker 1: or something. I mean, you think gets paid, yes, more.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good ound. I mean, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know what player minimum is right now. I would
Speaker 1: guess a little less than that if I had to guess.
Speaker 1: But good work doing fine. I don't mean consultant. No
Speaker 1: one knows what you're doing. Anyway, there wasn't like a
Speaker 1: bit market for his services this offseason. Probably he might
Speaker 1: still be getting paid. Um. I want to do an
Speaker 1: impression though for you guys, is it a British accent
Speaker 1: now Western New York? Because that been killed above? What
Speaker 1: do you guys talk? I left the whole time. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm pushing back on this. If I had a
Speaker 1: sour look on my face, it was because I looked
Speaker 1: down right when you were talking, and I was thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: I had some great Joe Judge points to make that
Speaker 1: I forgot. But you know that's what the Tuesday? You
Speaker 1: just you just chamber that one and that's what the Thursday.
Speaker 1: Here's the impression. Um, it's a Mark you Dalton like
Speaker 1: that was that was something that happened there, Dury during today.
Speaker 1: And then another another impression of Mark during this game. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and uh he was that was disgusting. He was so
Speaker 1: fired up. I'm fired up during during this game. He
Speaker 1: was yelling at Andy Dalton. And because when Greg tells
Speaker 1: an accurate story about me Elsie, that's every time Mark speaks,
Speaker 1: Greg concoct some live not that time. I I just
Speaker 1: like want to see the Cardinals be like all they
Speaker 1: can be, be a dominant team and they's got a
Speaker 1: little close at the end, where like the Bears with
Speaker 1: David Montgomery, who I think it's it's the best thing
Speaker 1: we have an offense right now. Donald Mooney had like
Speaker 1: one catch four quarters in this They were just poorly organized.
Speaker 1: I want the Cardinals to win. It's not only that, though,
Speaker 1: because you sometimes have it in for certain teams and
Speaker 1: coaches and you hate the Bears. You hate how boring
Speaker 1: they are, and I get it, yeah, I hate Bears.
Speaker 1: Want you want that misery to just compound in snowball
Speaker 1: until everyone's fired and the team starts over. So I
Speaker 1: think it's to me, having sat next to you watching
Speaker 1: football for ten years, I'm guessing it's more burn the
Speaker 1: Bears rather than Cardinals. It's it's definitely like in a
Speaker 1: special intensity. Today there's no bye week. There was a
Speaker 1: bye week for the Browns. Maybe that was part of it.
Speaker 1: You're just like enoying. I have preciated it when you
Speaker 1: have Cowboys lock on Thursday. So that was out of
Speaker 1: the way. No more than Patriots over Titans with like
Speaker 1: eight healthy players. But anyways, you know the Titans are
Speaker 1: the number one seed last week. But yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: like on a on a week up week to week matchup.
Speaker 1: You have to say that was as fugazi as what
Speaker 1: I pulled off. But Andy Dalton, to me, if you're
Speaker 1: doing what the Bears are stuck doing with him right now,
Speaker 1: you're at the end of the road. He's an end
Speaker 1: of the road scenario. And it's this game isn't about
Speaker 1: Andy Daltons. I know, it's like a driving rainstorm and
Speaker 1: they outgained the What a weird box score that the
Speaker 1: Cardinals have two hundred and fifty seven yards it's a
Speaker 1: short drive. They lose the turnover battle for to nothing.
Speaker 1: The Bears have for turn It's just a strange game.
Speaker 1: But that's a move it along, nice job. Let's move
Speaker 1: along bar It de fits the pedal. He's the last
Speaker 1: play of the game. Carsually washed by three steps up.
Speaker 1: He's gotta launch it. He does. He's got the arm
Speaker 1: to get it to the end zone. Three Raiders receivers. There,
Speaker 1: it pops up in the air. It falls incomplete. Washington
Speaker 1: on the fourth take it out of Vegas. Bongos. I
Speaker 1: want to give it the bongos of the lines. This
Speaker 1: is a you can make the choice here, controversial decision
Speaker 1: behind the glass, but here we are anyway. Tyler Taylor,
Speaker 1: through two touchdown passes, set up new kicker Brian Johnson
Speaker 1: with the game winning forty eight yard field goal thirty
Speaker 1: seven seconds to play, and they did get that stopped
Speaker 1: right at the end on defense desperation heat from Derek
Speaker 1: Carr seventeen fifteen. Washington over Raiders regularly watched that last
Speaker 1: kick live together. I thought there was no way and
Speaker 1: maybe this is just my Jets fandom and they're horrible
Speaker 1: kicker situation coloring the situation. I thought there's no way
Speaker 1: an unknown kicker would step up in that spot. But
Speaker 1: the football team has some juice right now, Dave. They
Speaker 1: just have this feeling to them that, yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 1: win this game at the end, that things are gonna
Speaker 1: break their way. That Taylor Heineke, who throws an interception
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter on the Washington second to last
Speaker 1: drive to set up Las Vegas to go take the lead,
Speaker 1: and then throws what would have and should have been
Speaker 1: a pick six that Travis Morrig there on their last drive,
Speaker 1: just forcing passes that he shouldn't. And that's why I've
Speaker 1: kind of stayed off this Heineke bandwagon. He's fun to watch,
Speaker 1: great back up like he does it all, but it's
Speaker 1: just like these these loose places have been there throughout
Speaker 1: the course of the season. You figure they're gonna come
Speaker 1: back to bite him. Goes right through, right through More's hands,
Speaker 1: and then in Heineke, to his credit, makes a couple
Speaker 1: good plays to set up that field goal and they
Speaker 1: get it and they get the win. But these games,
Speaker 1: it's just like these late afternoon games, they were all
Speaker 1: afoot that Carlos Dunlap, you know, tips that Jimmy g pass,
Speaker 1: he has the open receiver the forty Niners. Gonda tied
Speaker 1: it there. Uh. You know, we talked about using play
Speaker 1: by Lamar Jackson on the incomplete I watch. I wanted
Speaker 1: to watch this with you. It was a good play
Speaker 1: by t J. Watt, but yes, two or three inches
Speaker 1: closer and they make the play there. And then Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: who I think played a very Derek Carr game, very solid,
Speaker 1: didn't make mistakes, move the ball well, had two throws
Speaker 1: that he absolutely wants to take back. He had an
Speaker 1: open two point conversion that he just sailed in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and then he had z Jones streaking wide
Speaker 1: open for a touchdown. Uh in the fourth quarter. They
Speaker 1: ended up settling for the field goal to go up
Speaker 1: fifteen fourteen, and he missed both of those throws. If
Speaker 1: you're the Raiders, you want to be different than the
Speaker 1: pass Raiders team, make those throws, receivers, the somebody's got
Speaker 1: to make a play and it can change your season.
Speaker 1: And instead of being you know, in position entering Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Football to be in first place, you're again back
Speaker 1: to six and six and again facing all the same questions. Uh,
Speaker 1: specifically now about your offense and the ability to score
Speaker 1: in its presence date, Yeah, I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys game stands out as a holiday aberration because the
Speaker 1: Raiders prior lost uh to the Giants, Chiefs, and Bengals
Speaker 1: and did not top sixteen points in any of those games.
Speaker 1: Their schedule as much as any of these muddled, bizarre,
Speaker 1: you know, middling teams vying for playoff spots is rough.
Speaker 1: They've got the Chiefs, the Browns, the Broncos, the Cults,
Speaker 1: and the Chargers to close the season and no Darren
Speaker 1: Waller today was was a killer. I wasn't too surprised
Speaker 1: that they didn't move the football that well. I was
Speaker 1: surprised by the Washington Football teams social media account after
Speaker 1: the game. I don't know if you you saw this,
Speaker 1: uh Dan, but they have a picture photoshop of Terry
Speaker 1: McLaurin uh spray painting Welcome to as Vegas. No no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, it's l O S. S Law. Oh. I
Speaker 1: thought that was that they done what you said better.
Speaker 1: That would have been a good burn. I thought it was.
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, they're really taking this social to
Speaker 1: another level. That's stupid. That's a bad photoshop. And it's
Speaker 1: tacky as hell, and Washington should set, you know, sit
Speaker 1: out a whole bunch of plays. That stuff comes back
Speaker 1: to a Vegas would have really guess. I was surprised
Speaker 1: that it wasn't a bigger story too. Is there some
Speaker 1: amazing I think maybe they played in a super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but like an amazing Washington Raiders rivalry where you have
Speaker 1: to be doing, you know, no outside of that super
Speaker 1: Bowl on Twitter, they played once every four years. They're
Speaker 1: feeling themselves, you know, all right, Well, good for Washington,
Speaker 1: they are. They're kind of a fun team. I just
Speaker 1: I think Heineke is a fun guy to watch. The
Speaker 1: absolutely Antonio too made the play of the game, one
Speaker 1: of the players of the game with a third and
Speaker 1: one early where he should have been stopped for about
Speaker 1: a seven yard loss, gets the first down, ends up
Speaker 1: setting up their first touchdown was right on the goal line,
Speaker 1: like he's been awesome, all right, let's take a break,
Speaker 1: and then we finished out. We got two more games.
Speaker 1: While they Cox motions on the left side, they get
Speaker 1: off to Taylor right up there, gut touchdown d hy
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor with this second rushing score in the Hall game,
Speaker 1: and the Colts have broken an open twenty to nothing.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor was back on his game. The m v
Speaker 1: P candidate ran for one, three and two touchdowns, and
Speaker 1: the Colts rolled to an easy thirty one ZIP win
Speaker 1: over the hapless Texans. That was Matt Tallard Matt Taylor,
Speaker 1: by the way, w f N I uh, Texas turned
Speaker 1: the ball over twice in the first quarter. Tyrod Taylor
Speaker 1: got benched in a weird year he's had, and the
Speaker 1: Texans mark are too intent. Yeah, I don't think uh,
Speaker 1: we need to unfurrol like a verbal Russian novel. On
Speaker 1: this game, it went according to plan for the Colts,
Speaker 1: who regularly hammer terrible teams like this. They got off
Speaker 1: to a little bit of a slow start on offense,
Speaker 1: but their defense had the two takeaways that led to
Speaker 1: its touchdown early on in a missfield goal. But then
Speaker 1: it's like you're waiting for Houston UM, as we have
Speaker 1: been all season to awaken on any level. They had
Speaker 1: forty eight yards at half three first downs, five of
Speaker 1: six drives went for less than eight yards. Uh. It
Speaker 1: was a disastrous showing by up there with Jacksonville the
Speaker 1: least watchable attack around UM with very little hope, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what you just need. You cannot the
Speaker 1: off season cannot come quickly enough for them. Uh the Colts,
Speaker 1: they just took care of business. Uh. They to me,
Speaker 1: they showed their defense right now, which leads the league,
Speaker 1: and takeaways, points off, turnovers and force fumbles. Put it
Speaker 1: to Tech, put it to the Texans early, and there
Speaker 1: was just no coming out David Coldy finally, to me,
Speaker 1: looks like someone who's sort of being kept there against
Speaker 1: his will on the sideline. Yeah, we don't need a
Speaker 1: seventeenth game for some of these teams. Like it feels
Speaker 1: so late for the Texans. They dropped back to past
Speaker 1: thirty one times today and they ended up with fifty
Speaker 1: seven yards. That that's next that's next level. I have
Speaker 1: two pro football. It just was hard to watch. If
Speaker 1: I if I became a head coach, there's two things
Speaker 1: I would immediately try to do. Game management. Let's here
Speaker 1: here it is. Don't bring it this so late in
Speaker 1: the show. Don't give Jonathan Taylor or guys like him
Speaker 1: thirty two carries in a game like this. This this
Speaker 1: stuff happens all the time. The other thing. The other thing,
Speaker 1: and I really think this is gonna take over someday.
Speaker 1: There's so many teams that snapped the ball with like
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds left when they're up two or three scores,
Speaker 1: like throughout the whole second half of the game, like
Speaker 1: with twelve minutes, like like start already milking the clock,
Speaker 1: uh much earlier. It alds up so fast and and
Speaker 1: and even like the Patriots to it, they'll snap it
Speaker 1: with like twenty seconds up seventeen points with twelve minutes.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, I think we talked about the running clock
Speaker 1: would work in a game like this. Just let's get home,
Speaker 1: let's get out of here. It's it's about healthy and safety.
Speaker 1: There was a couple of weeks ago, I think a
Speaker 1: Bills game where they were blown out an opponent and
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen's dropping back and throwing crossing patterns to
Speaker 1: to Stefon digs when they're up thirty points, So like,
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? I mean, if any think
Speaker 1: they put Davis Mills in, if anything, I mean Taylor
Speaker 1: was a little little banged up and he could have played.
Speaker 1: But but you're right, I mean I would just melt
Speaker 1: away the final ten minutes of games like this into oblivion.
Speaker 1: There was a stretch in the first part of the game,
Speaker 1: just like watching like the Possessions, where they just kept
Speaker 1: The Colts kept punting it from the fifty to the ten,
Speaker 1: and then the Texans kept punting it from the ten
Speaker 1: back to the fifty, just back and forth, three and
Speaker 1: out's ten to fifty. It was like that this is
Speaker 1: the last game. Let me just really quickly read Houston's
Speaker 1: drive chart before we kill them for the week. Interception, fumble, punt, punt, punt, punt,
Speaker 1: punt downs, punt downs downs, check you later. The cult.
Speaker 1: The cults simply massacre the league's have nots. And by
Speaker 1: the way, the Texans, who again, when the season ends
Speaker 1: in January nine, they will memory hole this season. It
Speaker 1: will have never existed. You won't even be able to
Speaker 1: find it in the media. Guy. They are the first
Speaker 1: team to be eliminated from playoff contention. December five, the
Speaker 1: Colts would be the sixth seed in the NFC, but
Speaker 1: they're still stuck at ten at seven and six in
Speaker 1: the a f C. The a f C sneaky, even
Speaker 1: though it's not great, it's sneaky deep. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of teams with winning records, whereas in the NFC, there's
Speaker 1: only five teams with winning record. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: good bad teams are bad good teams in the like,
Speaker 1: there's a whole mess of those guys. Bad good is
Speaker 1: maybe maybe would go good bad like I'll use your
Speaker 1: team the Browns on a bye. Are they a good
Speaker 1: bad team or a bad good team? Just flat out
Speaker 1: very annoying to the sense I think they're a bad
Speaker 1: good team. The Steelers are what is the different? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is. The Steelers to me are a good bad team.
Speaker 1: They're maxing out what they can do. That the US
Speaker 1: are a bad good team, right because maybe better than
Speaker 1: they're intrinsically too bad to be good because I don't
Speaker 1: think they're intrinsically bad. I think they're intrinsically good. But
Speaker 1: they're really bad. They're on the lower end of what
Speaker 1: goodness is. I mean I should understand there in the
Speaker 1: higher and the highest end of what a bad team
Speaker 1: could be. I mean, they all sort of suck. That's
Speaker 1: how I feel about Texas suck. That's that's the Patriots
Speaker 1: all right. Sunday night football, and they keep the drive alive.
Speaker 1: Ridge Water under pressure as he throws it's intercepted by
Speaker 1: Daniel Sorenson and Bridgewater can't knock him down and shortens
Speaker 1: He's gonna go all the way. Hrey cut that on
Speaker 1: al Michael's with the call. Here's the here's the good news.
Speaker 1: Tenny really went for the tackle. One's but that was
Speaker 1: the only positive of that play for the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1: A game deciding pick six by Daniel Sorenson that allowed
Speaker 1: the Chiefs to ease to a two to nine win
Speaker 1: at Arrowhead, A game that Sauce once again greggy. The
Speaker 1: Chief's offense unable to really get anything going to finish
Speaker 1: with two sixty seven yards of offense, so they were
Speaker 1: easily out game. And yet their defense once again the
Speaker 1: slack for the offense. What kind of world do we live?
Speaker 1: At a certain point, you have to just say that
Speaker 1: this is what the Chiefs are right now and that
Speaker 1: it's working. I mean, it was almost identical to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys game that they won nineteen to nine. It's very
Speaker 1: similar to that Packers game they won over Jordan's Love
Speaker 1: when it was thirteen to seven. Like, think about the
Speaker 1: biggest plays in this game. That that was the biggest one,
Speaker 1: that the Teddy pick six off the tip pass there
Speaker 1: was the Teddy interception that was just a bad decision
Speaker 1: in the second half, there was the fourth down stop
Speaker 1: on the twenty yard the twenty play drive, and then
Speaker 1: there was the special teams recovery of the fumble that
Speaker 1: they had. None of those plays were offensive plays. They're
Speaker 1: like the Vikings where they go and get an opening
Speaker 1: drive touchdown every week and then they don't really do
Speaker 1: much the rest of the game. And that's fine. At
Speaker 1: least it's fine right now. Well, I mean, their defense
Speaker 1: is legit. They've allowed under twenty points per games since
Speaker 1: October ten. Essentially they have transformed on that side of
Speaker 1: the ball. After a big narrative being how you know,
Speaker 1: self destructive they were, I mean, and their offense and
Speaker 1: it wasn't even narrative. They were like, statistically the worst defense.
Speaker 1: We talked about it. I just mean, it's crazy that
Speaker 1: that kind of turned around, right, I mean, I just
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. This game frustrates me from
Speaker 1: a from a Broncos angle. Maybe we want to get
Speaker 1: into another way. Well, no, it frustrates me from a
Speaker 1: before we turn to the Broncos a chief's angle. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm still not ready to live in a
Speaker 1: world where we've now processed that the Chiefs right now
Speaker 1: win because their defense. I still don't understand how we
Speaker 1: got to this place. I still I see Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: and Andy Reid and Tyree Hill and Travis Kelsey, and
Speaker 1: I see the Chiefs with two time outs and a
Speaker 1: minute plus to play the first half, running the clock out.
Speaker 1: I see the Chiefs getting a turnover on a punt
Speaker 1: and going nine yards on fourth and one, kicking the
Speaker 1: field goal to go up sixteen three instead of the
Speaker 1: dagger shot. It's just to me, it's working now. And
Speaker 1: who's gonna complain about a team that's won five in
Speaker 1: a row and seems poised to win that division. But
Speaker 1: I am too, because I still think in this in
Speaker 1: our league, your defense can look really good for a stretch,
Speaker 1: but you'll be exposed by a big time offense in
Speaker 1: a big spot. And if the Chiefs do not get
Speaker 1: this figured out, they will get dinged and knocked out
Speaker 1: of the playoffs earlier than people think. Now. The other
Speaker 1: side of the ball, the Broncos, Uh, Greg, we talked
Speaker 1: about it, setting it up, how this was kind of
Speaker 1: not Teddy's chance. If you wanted to look at it
Speaker 1: that way. It's kind of how I posited it last week.
Speaker 1: But Denver's chance and to really make a statement, say
Speaker 1: we are for real week, We're gonna be hanging around
Speaker 1: in this race. We have a chance to win this division.
Speaker 1: And they kind of feels like they were exposed as
Speaker 1: a pretender here they were. They were never there offensively
Speaker 1: like the players they tried to make down the field
Speaker 1: to Courtland Sutton has killed them the last handful of weeks.
Speaker 1: Six targets for fifteen yards. You know, it's bad weather.
Speaker 1: It's like neither passing game got going. But they're they're
Speaker 1: not good enough to like survive a night like that
Speaker 1: where you're turning the ball over three times. I mean,
Speaker 1: Fongio's defense has held Kansas City to twenty two points
Speaker 1: per game in their five matchups since he's been there.
Speaker 1: They're scoring about ten points per game in those. It's
Speaker 1: just like the Chiefs. I just I feel like into
Speaker 1: in when you go into seasons like this, and it's
Speaker 1: not I'm not not Teddy Slander or anything else, more
Speaker 1: than just they are built to win with defense and
Speaker 1: a quarterback who can get them there when he doesn't
Speaker 1: make mistakes. Sometimes even when he doesn't. And today, when
Speaker 1: you get the killer mistakes from Teddy Bridgewater, you you
Speaker 1: don't stand a chance to survive. You're a six or
Speaker 1: seven win team when he's not playing well. Yeah, their
Speaker 1: defense part of the you know, they almost artificially key
Speaker 1: points down because they give up these long drives that
Speaker 1: aren't aren't particularly a good sign of your defense, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, that's why they struggle so
Speaker 1: much with the analytics, even though they're they're giving up
Speaker 1: not that many points. Tonight, they played well, and for
Speaker 1: the most part the last four or five weeks they
Speaker 1: played well. That's why they had won three out of four.
Speaker 1: But they feel like they've overachieved to even get to
Speaker 1: six and six. They won't go away because all these
Speaker 1: a f C teams seem like they'll never go away
Speaker 1: and they'll probably keep winning every other game. There's really
Speaker 1: no reason, uh not. But of all of the teams,
Speaker 1: them and the Steelers feel like the biggest pretenders and
Speaker 1: they're they're good bad too. Exactly, yeah, exactly. Now I'm
Speaker 1: starting to understand the definition. It is crazy that the
Speaker 1: Chiefs two leading receivers were there running backs. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're getting it seems like Darryl Williams bills Mahomes out
Speaker 1: of certain situations. You had that points, so you had
Speaker 1: to pick six Mahomes interception. I mean, it's like you
Speaker 1: had to pick six. So we're down to fifteen points
Speaker 1: produced by the offense. You had a again the muff
Speaker 1: punt that led to the few bill where you went
Speaker 1: nine yards, so that's really three more points. So the
Speaker 1: defense special teams gave you ten points. The Chiefs scoring
Speaker 1: twelve points on offense in this game. It's just it's
Speaker 1: the twilight zone. Man. But you also at one point
Speaker 1: when they get to fourth and two from the Denver eight,
Speaker 1: it's thirteen to three, and they line up to kick
Speaker 1: the field goal, and we're watching this in the large
Speaker 1: theater area next to the studio here, and Dan's going
Speaker 1: kill shot, kill shot, just go Ford and fourth down
Speaker 1: and keep going and killed kill the Denver Broncos. And
Speaker 1: they don't do it. I mentioned this a little bit,
Speaker 1: Oh you did. I'm exhausted. It's like, was I not.
Speaker 1: That's one of the rare times that I was ultra
Speaker 1: checked out while you were speaking. I normally am very
Speaker 1: engaged with what you're saying. I apologized, but I'm not
Speaker 1: I do the same thing to you sometimes. You know,
Speaker 1: we've done a lot of shows over the year's mark.
Speaker 1: It's deep into the night, been a long day. This
Speaker 1: game was not in the exciting to anyone, even like
Speaker 1: Chiefs fans. If the Patriots were winning this way, you'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh wow, this teams were soreful. But even
Speaker 1: Chiefs fans, I don't think are enjoying this. Broncos fans
Speaker 1: are annoyed that this game got flexed into Sunday night
Speaker 1: so that, like the whole country, I had to watch it.
Speaker 1: I'm annoyed, uh that I had to deal with this
Speaker 1: like this, this hurt me more than then, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know at this point, Teddy struggling hurts me more
Speaker 1: than the Patriots. You've infested a lot of your emotional
Speaker 1: being into Teddy's ups and downs, and tonight was the downs.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a down before we go. There
Speaker 1: were a lot of injury news right before we left,
Speaker 1: So just throw that up there that Marlon Humphrey is
Speaker 1: out for the season. Big loss for Baltimore. That is massive.
Speaker 1: Adam Theland has a high ankle sprain that ain't going away.
Speaker 1: Anytime soon. That's pretty soon. Vikings are going away soon'll
Speaker 1: be sure. I'm just saying between between now. In some
Speaker 1: January hour was out for the season for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Logan Thomas you mentioned, has a torn a cel that
Speaker 1: was unfortunately came back on a low hit on him.
Speaker 1: I think it was made a couple of plays and yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: so that's a situation. We'll be back on Tuesday. Um,
Speaker 1: big holiday party Tuesday night. So you know before that happens,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like this buzz in the air. I
Speaker 1: would think, Yeah, Erica and all the twenties somethings, Erica
Speaker 1: your last holiday party as gotta gotta make it count,
Speaker 1: gotta make it count. Justin, you are in charge of
Speaker 1: Erica because remember the night before Thanksgiving you were basically
Speaker 1: her bodyguard making sure she didn't get arrested or anything.
Speaker 1: Justin's gonna have to be that for you again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I mean Justin is a very
Speaker 1: um capable individual. That is a large task, right, Plus
Speaker 1: you work for Erica, that's not really like, well, it's
Speaker 1: d that's your boss. It should be interest. What's a
Speaker 1: sober ricky Hollywood at a holiday party in a suit role.
Speaker 1: We want to roll rousing causing trouble. The night before Thanksgiving, Ricky,
Speaker 1: a very attractive blonde woman walks by. She grabs the
Speaker 1: blonde woman and tells her to take a photo with
Speaker 1: me and tag me and like, oh, this is Dan Hansers.
Speaker 1: Don't you know who this is? And she thought it
Speaker 1: was the funniest thing. It was very funny. And I
Speaker 1: was like, did the woman know who you are? Of
Speaker 1: course not like you know, I would presume that she
Speaker 1: would very good looking and Dan Dan was hamma, hammamma.
Speaker 1: And I was like, taking picture, this is I'm a
Speaker 1: married man. I'm not like that. You were just you
Speaker 1: weren't coming off as like, oh yeah, Mr Daddy big,
Speaker 1: you know, be daddy big, Daddy big. And I was like,
Speaker 1: don't you know who that is? Dan Answers. So justin
Speaker 1: you you will have to keep her under control. So
Speaker 1: which is it you want me to be? I want
Speaker 1: you to be out of control and I want Grave
Speaker 1: Digger to be on control. Business grea some semblance of
Speaker 1: um non anarchy from you all right to him? Good stuff?
Speaker 1: All right, We'll be back on. There's one more game.
Speaker 1: By the way, of course, Week thirteen, Buffalo, Buffalo, New England. Uh,
Speaker 1: the the weather conditions are supposed to be crazy. Is
Speaker 1: that's still a thing that's interesting. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: big game in the a f C, and we'll have
Speaker 1: a recap of that on Tuesday and all that other
Speaker 1: fun stuff. Thank you to everybody for listening. Let's get
Speaker 1: on at it. Succession Sunday night. The strongest aspect of
Speaker 1: my marriage is when me and the wife get together. Succession.
Speaker 1: I know, but the show ends like four weeks. What happened?
Speaker 1: What happens now? I don't know untill that need the call.